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then about 20 minutes after the but why you would want it... first alarm the earth shook and the sky went dark and west is not. the 2014 e-class. it doesn't just see the future. changed forever. today our prayers are with the it is the future. families of all we've lost. the proud sons and daughters of west whose memories live on in our hearts. parents who love their kids and leaders who serve their communities. they were young and old from different backgrounds and different walks of life. a few were just going about a day after talking to an their business. fbi team in russia the parents of the boston bombing suspect an awful lot ran toward the scene of disaster trying to spoke to the media. let's go live to our senior help. one was described as the kind of guy whose phone was always international correspondent nis ringing with folks in need of robertson on the ground in dagestan, russia. help. what happened, nic? help he always provided. >> reporter: one of the that is just who these folks interesting things was to hear the mother describe the were. relationship between the two our thoughts are with those who sons. a lot of speculation that

face a long road -- the wounded, tamerlan really had a huge the heart broken, families who amount of influence over the younger brother dzhokhar. when you hear their mother lost homes and possessions in an speaking, it really fills in a instant. they're going to need their friends in west but they're also lot of those blanks. going to need their friends in texas and all across this country. very close. very loved each other. they'll still need you to answer when dzhokhar used to come on that call. they will still need those things that are lasting and friday night home, tamerlan used to like hug and kiss him. true. hold him like -- because he was scripture teaches us a friend loves at all times. a big, big boy, you know, a brother is born for adversity. tamerlan. he would have him like this and hold him, my dzhokhar, and he would kiss him like this. he would never, like, think that for the people of west just as kissing brother is a shame. we've seen the love you share in better times as friends and brothers and sisters, these hard he kissed him. days have shown your ability to >> nic, do the parents still maintain their children are stand tall in times of unimaginable adversity. you saw it in leaders like the innocent? >> reporter: they really do.

and when you listen, when the mayor who lost close friends and mother was asked, okay, how can you saw it in the hospital staff you say that? who spent the night treating you've seen the images of them. people that they knew, toiling you've seen the video of him through their tears as they did what had to be done. placing what appears to be the bomb on the site. all these things she says, no. he was taken out of a car. i remember seeing him being taken out of the car alive. we saw it in the folks who helped evacuate an entire he was naked. i recognize that body. nursing home including one man this is one of the moments in who drove an elderly man to the press conference when she safety then came back to do it described it and she became again twice. we saw it in the people so really emotional. generous that when the red cross >> and when he is laying down set up a shelter for folks who couldn't go back to their homes, there already killed, oh, my not that many people showed up because most had already been god, i wanted to scream. offered a place to stay with their friends and family and to scream to the whole world, what did you do? neighbors. what have you done with my son? complete strangers drove from he was alive. why did they need to kill him? why didn't they send him to hundreds of miles -- firefighters from surrounding whatever? why did they kill him? communities manned the station so surviving volunteers could why? why did they have to kill him?

recover from their wounds. they got him alive, right? he was in their hands. right here at baylor students stood in line for hours to give >> reporter: you know, listening blo to her it sounds like she is blood. the nearby school district very confused there with the young man who was arrested, opened its doors to the students taken, put in a police car who can't go back to its naked, later released, not classrooms putting welcome signs on lockers and in the hallways. related to the two brothers at all. and she seems to think that is her son tamerlan and how, therefore, could he be dead that's the thing about this after her seeing those pictures of him alive? trage tragedy. so a lot of confusion and a lot this small town's family is of denial there, wolf. bigger now. >> at that news conference, nic, it extends beyond the boundaries did any of the reporters point of west and in the days ahead out to that grieving mother that her two sons are accused of this love and support will be having killed three people and more important than ever. there will be moments of doubt injuring more than 250 people and pain and the temptation to with really brutal pressure wonder how this community will ever fully recover and the cooker bombs with bbs and nails designed to kill and maim as many people as possible? did anyone point that out to families who have lost such remarkable men of the sort we her? >> they did.

saw in that video, there are going to be times where they and again, she would come back simply don't understand how this with a scenario that this wasn't could have happened. her sons, that this -- these -- they wouldn't have done such a thing. that they were good people. today i see in the people of she really -- you get the sense there, wolf, that there is a west, in your eyes, that what huge amount of pressure and stress going on with the parents at the moment. they just can't comprehend that makes west special isn't going to go away. their son is dead, another one instead of changing who you are, is lying gravely injured in the hospital, that they could be this tragedy has simply revealed responsible for this. they just -- when people put who you've always been. those details to them, they were seen in those videos. she was saying, well, no. the backpack really wasn't like it's the courage of deborah that one. there was another one. suelock who works as a cashier just around the corner from the they were -- they weren't fire station. she said, it's going to be tough involved. she cannot bring herself to for the families, but we're going to rebound because we're accept her sons were involved, wolf. fighters. and that courage will bring west >> is either parent, the father especially, coming back to the back. united states? >> you know, he says he is but it is very confusing. i spoke to him as he was coming

out of the press conference. he said, i'm going back today. it's the love of carla ruiz who that was thursday. that's already yesterday here in used to live in west but now dagestan. lives in austin. he said that he was going to try last weekend she drove all the and see his son dzhokhar in way back. i had to be here, she said. you have to be here for family. hospital but they said they had been told they wouldn't be able that love will keep west going. to see dzhokhar in hospital as you would expect. so it is very confusing. is he going to go friday? it's the face of someone like john crowder that will sustain there are several flights he could be on to moscow and connect home to the united the good people of west for as long as it takes. states. it just isn't clear. his church was damaged in the explosion. he has poor health at times. so on sunday the congregation we're told that he came out of assembled outside. that press conference and wasn't feeling well. what happened wednesday was he didn't seem to be so unwell awful, he told them, but god is when i talked to him but, again, bigger than all of this. very hard to tell what this family is really going to do and when they're going to do it, god is bigger than all of this. wolf. >> nic, thanks very much. nic is reporting for us from he's here with you in west. dagestan in russia. when we come back there's been another bizarre twist in the he is bigger than all of this. search to determine who sent he is here with you. president obama and other officials ricin-laced letters. that's coming up. going forward it's not just your more on the boston investigation town that needs your courage and as well. but first, a preview of this

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memorial service honoring those who were killed in that fertilizer plant explosion. 14 people killed. many, many were injured. our deepest condolences to everyone involved. >> it is very pleasing to us. >> we want to welcome our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." a stunning revelation by new york's mayor and police commissioner suggesting their city was next on the boston bombing suspect's target list. they say the surviving brother has told investigators that the plan was to bomb times square in new york. mary snow is in times square right now with the latest details. what do we know about this alleged plot, mary? >> well, what we know, wolf, is that the mayor of new york city and the city's police commissioner say they were told this information by federal investigators last night.

they say this was -- there is no specifics of exactly where in times square would be talked about and they described this plan as being made spontaneously, that it was talked about last thursday night. new york city's police commissioner ray kelley described how this came about and the information that he was told by federal investigators. >> dzhokhar tsarnaev, the terrorist suspect who was captured alive initially told investigators he and his brother decided after the boston bombings that they would go to new york city to party. however, subsequent questioning what started as a fun day at of zdzhokhar revealed that he ad the ballpark turned to a day of his brother decided horror for one boston marathon spontaneously on times square as a target. they would drive to times square victim. >> if someone told me i would that same night. they discussed this while have half a leg at the age of 38 driving around in the mercedes suv that they had hijacked after before this happened i never would have believed it.

they shot and killed an m.i.t. i would have been devastated. i haven't had a moment yet of police officer in cambridge, zom being devastated because i have had so much support from the har said. hospital. the hospital has brought in individuals who are in the same >> reporter: now the question is situation as i am. why these two very differing they live normal lives. accounts that the police they were able to tell me about that. commissioner described one mentioning partying in new york and then the second one day later mentioning this alleged it's been great. >> amazing woman, sanjay. plot or targeting of times she says she was given a choice to amputate. square in the way the police here is the question. commissioner described it is that there were two rounds of why would someone choose to questioning and he was told the amputate if it wasn't absolutely initial information came during necessary? >> well, it is a tough decision, that first round of questioning and that the second information, wolf. as you point out there are some situations where it is going to piece of information about this be very obviously necessary and plan involving times square came sometimes where there are injuries to the where it during this second round where he said he was told that the won't require amputation and it suspect was much more lucid and sometimes falls in between. gave more detailed information. the scenario is typically like this, a specific injury to the the information of course conveyed to city officials was leg. doctors will go ahead and that the brothers had apparently stabilize the bones, reconnect blood vessels, even address some talked about detonating the of the nerve injury. remaining explosives and the way the question is after that what

the information was relayed is kind of shape is the leg to be there were six improvised explosive devices, one being a pressure cooker bomb that was be. the leg, the ankle, the foot, similar to the two that went off and also the issue of pain. in boston and five pipe bombs. despite all those operations, wolf? the leg may not -- it may be, >> could have potentially killed a lot of people in times square. first of all, a great source of i know you're standing by with pain and just not work. much more later here in "the she even said the legs, because situation room." of the different lengths, there mary, thanks very much. was concern about that. senator lindsay graham the i want you to listen, wolf, to republican senator from south how her doctor put this carolina said the obama particular decision. administration bears in his words some serious blame for the >> it's very, very rare that the attacks. he is standing by and will join doctor makes a decision. us live. also coming up, five presidents we do everything to let the patient come to their own leaving politics behind sharing some laughter, tears, and common bond. stay with us. decision. you're in "the situation room." because the values for every ♪ separate patient are different. keeping a limb may be very important to one, while for someone else, i think like heather, function is paramount. >> so ultimately, in medicine, sometimes they say function versus form, to some extent. as you heard from the doctor,

function in particular, very important to heather. wolf? >> surgeons waited a week, as you know, sanjay, before actually amputating her leg. is it possible we'll see other victims having to undergo amputations in the coming days and weeks? >> it is possible, wolf. again, there's this idea that they're going to do all these different things to try and fix the injuries in the leg. the bones, the arteries, the nerves. and then sort of give it some time. give it some time to see how that leg is going to behave, how it's going to work, if it's going to be a source of pain or not. there's no hard and fast rule in terms of how long that period should be. obviously with heather, you've got a sense of the time period. introducing bbm video with screen share. but wolf, there may be others hey aleigh. hey! carol! who are still sort of waiting, update on 171 woodward..... seeing, could the leg regain more of that function, could let's other people see what's on your screen. some of that pain be addressed, and these are the material studies. wolf. >> is heather's positive the dog was my suggestion. aleigh. attitude, and she does have an aleigh! it's great. but i'm on vacation amazing positive attitude, is for another week, remember? that going to help her recover? oh, right! >> i think absolutely. i'll call you tomorrow! ok. and i think in particular, it

but don't. will make a difference with carol? rehab. look, you have -- this is the the blackberry z10 with screen share. beginning of a process, powerful communication on the powerful network. obviously, a long one, a long verizon. road for heather. but the -- within six weeks or so, she'll probably be up moving ♪ around, on a prosthetic leg. [ female announcer ] nothing gets you going but how well she's going to do quite like the power of quaker oats. with that prosthetic leg, the today is going to be epic. types of things she wants to do, i talked to some rehab quaker up. specialists over the last couple of days who specialize in this area, and i think it's safe to say nothing is off the table. any basic activity is going to be within her reach. but to your question, that attitude and how engaged she has in rehab, just listening to her, she's going to be very engaged. that will play a big role in talking about the months and years down the road. >> i admire that young woman a lot. >> yeah. >> sanjay, i know you do as well. thank you very much. >> yeah. we have new information on the so-called mystery man, accused by relatives of steering one of the bombing suspects to radical islam.

we're following the investigation into the boston bombings. word today that the suspects were planning on driving from massachusetts to new york and blowing up a bomb, a pressure cooker bomb in times square.

we heard that from the mayor of ♪ new york. we heard it from the police chief in new york. lindsay graham is joining us now the republican senator from south carolina. senator, thanks very much for joining us. how serious do you believe this alleged times square bombing followup if you will really is? (train horn) >> i just feel they're trying to vo: wherever our trains go, go out in a blaze of glory. the economy comes to life. i think it was deadly serious. norfolk southern. one line, the only reason they didn't make infinite possibilities. it is because of good police work and the people of boston stopped them. >> you caused quite a stir today welcnew york state, where cutting taxes for families and businesses when you suggested the obama administration must have a great is our business. deal of the blame for what we've reduced taxes and lowered costs to save happened at the end of the businesses more than two billion dollars to grow jobs, boston marathon because they didn't do the right thing whether it was the fbi or the cut middle class income taxes to the lowest rate in sixty years, cia in following up with those russian leads. i want you to explain to our and we're creating tax free zones for business startups. viewers what you were -- what you were driving at. the new new york is working >> absolutely. well, the blame goes to the two creating tens of thousands of new businesses, terrorists. they're the ones that bear the and we're just getting started. to grow or start your business responsibility but, you know, when we got bin laden that was a visit thenewny.com great operation, gutsy call by

the president. a lot of praise. here is my concern. the system clearly failed to meet, when you have russian intelligence services informing the fbi and cia you have a radical islamist in your midst and we put him in whatever system there is, he goes to russia, dagestan, homeland security people know he leaves but don't share with the fbi or the cia and he comes back in july of 2012, goes on the internet, youtube videos expressing radical thoughts and hatred and following radical websites, the rest is history. ...and we inspected his brakes for free. clearly, the system failed. -free is good. -free is very good. >> when you say the department [ male announcer ] now get 50% off brake pads and shoes at meineke. of homeland security they knew he went back last year to dagestan for six months which is in russia but never notified either the fbi or the cia. i guess the argument they make, janet napolitano the secretary there's been a twist in the of homeland security, he was going back to visit his mom and search behind the ricin-laced dad. >> well, all i can tell you is letters to president obama and others. that when the russian

intelligence service points out to you to the fbi and the cia we've got the very latest. that we believe after 2010 he's victor? >> wolf, the focus of this become a radical islamist and he investigation has shifted to a is tied to maybe unspecified former politician who's also a tae kwon do instructor, everett terrorist groups that you would want to, if you put him on a dusky. according to authorities, dusky list, that it pinged twice. befriended the father of one of it pinged when he left and the tae kwon do students. pinged when he came back. what is the use of the ping if some time they spent together you don't follow him? recently agitated the fbi. the system is not working. when homeland security knows he >> are you concerned that your son is involved in this ricin leaves and comes back they don't tell the fbi or the cia, incident at all? clearly, the watch list is not >> i don't think so. working. >> i think you could make the i know my son's not. >> melvin said his son, kirk, argument that maybe the fbi and the cia should have told the knows nothing about those poisonous letters sent to homeland -- the department of president obama, a senator and a homeland security about this guy. >> they did. mississippi judge, and brings >> did they tell them all the nothing dangerous into this details of what they learned from russia? house. >> as i understand based on the >> he comes down here and hunts. >> the sheriff said the fbi is inquiry from the alert from the russian intelligence service, keeping tabs on kitchen's both agencies put him in at a friend, everett dusky. >> they thought that the two data base that is under the were here. i think at one time they were control of homeland security and there is a joint task force where homeland security is part here. >> deputies conducted a traffic of the custom border patrol stop wednesday night on a vehicle kirk kitchens was

group. when the system alerted about driving. the sheriff said he was told he this guy going and coming it was thinks by the fbi that dusky was never shared with the fbi or the cia. here's what gets me the most. in that vehicle. >> the deputy said there was only one person in the vehicle. giving all this information so obviously i think he was about the guy how could we miss the fact that he went on hiding. why he was, i don't know that. websites and was telling the i can't answer that. >> dusky is not a suspect and world he hates america and he is going to try to kill americans his attorney said he's not required to check in with and we missed that? anyone, but authorities could and after the bombing, when we not find him. have his photo, how could we not >> i think that mr. kitchens was put two and two together? surely, if you are on a watch list and there is a photo attempting to give mr. dusky just a place to lay low, and try available we should be able to put two and two together. to relax. there's a lot of failure here >> overnight the fbi surrounded this home that belongs to the and it's not about so much blame kitchens. but never went in. as it is fixing it and, clearly, >> they can go in without a warrant if they want to. our system even after 9/11 is >> friday afternoon the sheriff not working. >> you believe these two brothers were acting alone or searched the property and found nothing. no connection to his son. they were part of some other group, they had other individuals who were helping anyone in that family, kirk them? >> we now know of a third kitchens especially, a person of person. the young man tells us they were interest? >> no, they are not. self-radicalized by watching not that i'm aware of. videos. now we're looking for somebody >> wolf, i spoke with dusky's

close to the elder brother. i really don't know but i can attorney, laurie basham, and she tell you this. said no one called her about the reason i've been wanting a this search for dusk yifl. and when she found out that national security interrogation and not a criminal law authorities had difficulty interrogation is to have time finding him, she called the fbi, with this second suspect to ask and told them exactly where he him questions about what they is. wolf? >> victor blackwell, thanks very know, terrorist organizations involved, other people that may much. happening now, the alleged be involved. i'm not trying to solve a crime. marathon bomber claims he and i'm trying to enhance our his brother also had plans to security and prevent a future bomb times square in new york. attack. none of the information can be but the house intelligence used in the criminal law system so i think the obama determined they have different administration made a mistake by information about their next not looking at this man, given target. also in that interview, new his ties and the radical islamic details about the questioning of attack boston faced as a jahar tsarnaev, and concerns potential enemy combatant so we that a big mistake may have been could have time with him without the criminal justice system made. stand by for this important being involved. i don't want to undercut his interview. plus, a gathering of five rights in court. american presidents. first-year law student could you're going to see who got convict this guy. i want to make sure we're emotional, who got laughs at the gathering intelligence and now opening of president george w. we've lost that. >> do you know anything about bush's library. this individual named misha who may have brain washed the older i'm wolf blitzer. we want to welcome our viewers brother at least reporting to in the united states and around the world. the world. you're in "the situation room." the ex-brother-in-law with whom i spoke yesterday? >> you know, the plot thickens

because the young man said, hey, -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com you know, nobody was involved. we watched videos. the terrifying scenario, we became self-radicalized. imagine if the marathon bombing well, dagestan, you've been all suspects had gotten out of the over the world, chechen rebels, boston area after the attack and fighters, have joined al qaeda in afghanistan and iraq. headed straight to times square that is a really very dangerous in new york with bombs ready to part of the world. blow. new york city officials now so it doesn't make sense to me. confirming that jahar tsarnaev i'd like to know who this third has told investigators what he person was. clearly, they did more than and his brother had planned. watch videos according to the let's go to times square right now. brother-in-law and why we do not mary snow is standing by with have time with this suspect not the very latest. mary? >> well, wolf, new york city's mayor and the city's police to torture him or undercut his commissioner say the fbi told day on the criminal side is them there was talk of tar getting times square. but few details were offered. all -- >> you know more about the law in the chaos of last week's than i do. quickly on syria, you are deeply manhunt for tamerlan and concerned. the intelligence community now dzhokhar tsarnaev, new york city believes small amounts, they say small amounts of chemical times square was on the radar of both suspects. the city's mayor and police weapons, sarin gas probably were used by the syrian regime by commissioner say they were informed by the fbi wednesday president assad against syrian night about information learned rebels. the president previously has said that would be crossing the during questioning of dzhokhar

red line that it would be a game tsarnaev. >> he told the fbi apparently changer. what should the u.s. do? that he and his brother had intended to drive to new york >> rally the international and designate additional community. explosives in times square. jordan, turkey, the >> reporter: but the plans, say officials, offered no specifics and was described as international community to bring spontaneous. this war to close by giving safe the brothers, according to new york officials, talked about haven to the rebels, putting going to new york while they were driving in the mercedes suv together a no fly zone to ground they had carjacked, after the syrian air force and neutralize their tank advantage allegedly killing an m.i.t. to allow the rebels to fight back. there are a bunch of radicals in police officer. they were said to have a handful the midst of the rebels, right of improvised explosive devices, arms to the right people. the thing i worry about the including a pressure cooker bomb like the two used at the boston most, wolf, and always have is marathon. and a number of pipe bombs, the chemical weapons. according to new york officials. we need a plan the day after when they stopped at a gas assad falls to go in and secure station, the carjacking victim the chemical weapons sites and escaped and put police on their destroy those weapons before they get in the wrong hands. if the war doesn't end soon the trail. tamerlan tsarnaev was killed, king of jordan is going to be a his younger brother was captured hours later. casualty of this war. police say they believe dzhokhar >> let's hope he is not. he is here in washington right now and a very good friend of tsarnaev made two previous trips the united states. >> absolutely. to new york on or before april >> it would be an awful 18th of 2012, a photo from the situation. >> yes it would. >> thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. coming up why federal agents trip obtained by police, and another trip in november of

swarmed the bombing suspects' 2012. but authorities say they don't university and are still holding two students. it started as a fun day at a know if there's any connection between the trips and their alleged plans. baseball game and ended in horror and pain at the boston the information about targeting marathon. times square is a reversal from a survivor. her story next. what police said just the day hard it can be to breathe how before. that the brothers were heading to new york to party. and man, you know how that feels. police commissioner ray kelly said the new york plan was copd includes emphysema and chronic bronchitis. revealed during a second round spiriva is a once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment of questioning. >> the information we received that helps open my obstructed airways for a full 24 hours. is that he was a lot more lucid, you know, spiriva helps me breathe easier. and gave much more detailed spiriva handihaler tiotropium bromide inhalation powder information in the second questioning period. does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. >> reporter: still, new york republican congressman peter tell your doctor if you have kidney problems, king, told cnn's jake tapper the glaucoma, trouble urinating, or an enlarged prostate. city should have been informed these may worsen with spiriva. earlier. >> this may or may not have been discuss all medicines you take, even eye drops. spontaneous. for all we know there could be stop taking spiriva and seek immediate medical help other conspirators out there and the city should be alerted so it if your breathing suddenly worsens, could go into its defensive your throat or tongue swells, you get hives, vision changes mode. because no one does it better or eye pain, or problems passing urine. than the nifypd. other side effects include dry mouth and constipation. i think they should have been told earlier.

nothing can reverse copd. >> reporter: wolf, the nypd says spiriva helps me breathe better. as part of its investigation now, it's looking into dzhokhar does breathing with copd weigh you down? don't wait to ask your doctor about spiriva. tsarnaev's trips to new york city and who he may have been with. the police commissioner said redesigned site has this new score planner tool with that some of the suspect's these cool sliders. this one lets us know what acquaintances in that photograph happens if we miss a payment. oh. have been i.d.'d. this one lets us know what happens if we but he wouldn't provide any more use less credit. information than that. yeah. what's this one do? again, it's unclear if there's i dunno. any kind of link. of course, the commissioner and mayor said now that they have this information, it's something they must look into. glad nothing weird happened. >> mary snow, thank you. right? a possible major twist in all of this, a lawmaker i spoke score planner is free to everyone. free score applies to just a little while ago says with enrollment in freecreditscore.com he's hearing that the brothers guacamole slider still in beta. were actually planning another attack in the boston area, not made a retirement plan, they considered all her assets, necessarily immediately in new york. even those held elsewhere, giving her the confidence to pursue all her goals. representative mike rogers is joining us, the chairman of the house intelligence committee. when you want a financial advisor mr. chairman, thanks very much who sees the whole picture, turn to us. for coming in. >> thanks for having me, wolf. wells fargo advisors. >> how serious is word now that would absolutely not have taken a zip line in the jungle. these two brothers were actually planning on driving into new

york city, and setting off a i'm really glad that girl stayed at home. bomb at times square? vo: expedia helps 30 million travelers a month find what they're looking for. >> well, that part i have not heard exactly that way, wolf. one traveler at a time. let me tell you what i know expedia. find yours. about that. what we know happened is that we do believe they had a plan for another attack. they had actually built the devices, and not used them. but from the investigators i've been talking to, they believe it was going to be probably more likely in the boston area. they really did believe they weren't going to get caught. the notion they decided to go to new york was a rushed event after this thing unraveled on them. their pictures were, you know, plastered all over the media, and the tips started flowing in. they knew they had trouble. so they needed to generate some cash, the hijacking, the theft of the atm cards and that kind of thing, the robbery. all of that was designed to get them ready, we believe at this point, to go to new york. it's not clear to me that they were actually going to set those

devices off, even though they had them with them. it certainly would make it a plausible thing to have happen, but it's more plausible to me they were going to do another event in the boston area, and they were hiding out in new york city was their plan. >> is it clear to you yet whether these two guys were acting alone, or that they were working with others, and perhaps even with some sort of organization? >> there is no right answer on this yet. i believe after seeing everything that i've seen, we just don't know enough about that six months or so in russia, what happened there. i think that's the time he flipped from being an extremist happening now all five radicalization process to living presidents come together for the first time in more than actually a violent jihadi. four years to honor one of their and we also know there are own. persons of interest that we the stories and the laughs, the still need to talk to in this tears as well at the dedication particular investigation, of president george w. bush's including areas in the areas of presidential library. investigators target a second which he lived. home in their search to so there's questions we just determine who sent ricin laced don't know the answers to yet. letters to president obama and i think it's too early to rule

others. and she says it felt like her it out. and we've got a lot more work to foot was on fire. do. >> cnn's drew griffin has been the boston bombing victim speaking out about her life changing decision to let doctors reporting on two foreign students at the university of amputate her leg. massachusetts dartmouth. i'm wolf blitzer. students from kazakhstan who you're in "the situation room." were taken into custody last week. one of whom was pictured, actually, in a photograph together with the younger tsarnaev brother at times square last year, when they were new details about a federal raid at the university attended visiting new york. they're still being held. by boston bombing suspect do you know anything about why dzhokhar tsarnaev. these two students from let's go to cnn's drew griffin kazakhstan are being held? on the scene for us. >> not the particular charges of what are you learning? why they might be held. >> you'll recall that the but listen, when this is police, the fbi, the federal agents actually swarmed one unraveling, you're seeing a lot -- there's persons of residence near that university in dartmouth. there was a reason we are told interest that haven't quite risen to the level of maybe for such a heavy-handed approach media attention yet, let's say. that friday, wolf. that part of the investigation is ongoing. it's because they thought i would not draw any firm dzhokhar tsarnaev was there. conclusions yet. there's just too much we have to they believed he was there answer, and too much we have to get done in order to fill in all because tsarnaev was sharing a cell phone with one of the two these blanks. a big part of this is what happened in those six months.

the russian government is not russian speaki ining kazakhstan quite cooperating yet, wolf. to the extent that i think is students who were detained from that raid. those two students are still in immigration custody because they apparently violated immigration appropriate. the congress will have laws but they're also being held conversations with the russian at an abundance of caution to government. make sure the fbi and agents can we believe, i believe, mike rogers believes that they have track every move of the tsarnaev information that will be brothers both before and after incredibly valuable to make the bombing. their determination of how much they were able to learn of the we have to worry back here, who cell phone and through social they talked to, who was involved media of the sharing of the cell in that. phone between these two people, we just haven't gotten that level of cooperation yet. but as of right now there is that's going to be important. talking to the persons of nothing, i should say nothing interest back here is going to that links these two russian be important. and again, that is kind of the students to the actual attacks unfolding part of the aftermath though they're being held still of last week's bombing. with an immigration visa hold on them. >> do you know if jahar i might also add that one of tsarnaev, the 19-year-old who's these students is pictured in that times square photograph in the hospital in boston, he that we've been showing of was given his miranda rights, do you know if he's answering fbi dzhokhar tsarnaev in times square with a group of his or other questions since he was friends. this person who shared the cell mirandized? phone with him is one of those >> yeah. let me tell you something on this, wolf, that i am very, very other students. wolf? >> do we know if the two concerned of. i've never seen this before. students from kazakhstan who so he's arrested friday night.

were studying at the university of massachusetts, dartmouth, are the magistrate, the judge cooperating with law intervenes into what is a legal enforcement? >> we are assuming they are. activity, the interview, that we don't have that for sure. was deemed so by a u.s. court but we understand that they have decision. and that is the public safety been at least forthcoming to the exception to mirandizing. authorities. there's nothing to suggest that you have to think about it, he's they have not been, wolf. going there you, obviously but, again, they are tracking seriously wounded, losing a lot every single move they make. once we found out that these two of blood, has to get medical shared cell phones it was easy attention. early on in the weekend the to understand now in hindsight judge calls out and says, i'm why there was such a heavy going to show up for this handed federal presence there on particular event. that is highly unusual for a that campus on friday during the judge to intervene so hastily, day before dzhokhar was actually and make the decision not based captured. >> a picture of dzhokhar with on the facts of the interviews, some of his friends including one of those students being held and the public safety exception, right now at times square last but what they perceived was year. >> right. happening based on what they saw >> when they were there. all right. thanks very much for that on television. information. it's dangerous. if you get more, let us know. we'll have much more on the it's precedent setting that i boston investigation coming up. think we need to change and correct right away. we still need more answers on there are some other news i want this particular question. to check out right now including once they walked into the this. for the first time in more than hospital room, and offered the four years all five living presidents and their first lawyer and mirandized, they

ladies were together on one stage for the dedication of the hadn't -- as sure as i'm standing here right now, the george w. bush presidential library in dallas. subject has not continued to it was an event filled with emotion. cooperate with the authorities. that's a huge problem. we didn't have all the answers, there were laughs and also a humble respect for the unique are there more devices, we bond that only they share. didn't have answers on the persons of interest we'd like to talk to. all of that was left on the table and now they have to go back and take the very time-consuming effort to try to >> mr. president let me say i am track this thing down in the filled with admiration and great interest of public safety. >> what i don't understand, if gratitude to the great there was that public safety contributions you have made to the most needy people on earth. exception that they wanted to thank you very much. use, why would the judge >> what a beautiful day in dallas. it is a great pleasure to be here. magistrate come in and interrupt to honor our son, owe oldest what must have been a very son. this is very special for barbara and me. thank all for coming and to all frustrating period for the fbi who were appearing to get of those who made this marvelous cooperation from him? >> that's the million-dollar museum possible we thank you question, wolf. it's a problem we have to get especially and we're glad to be answered. we need to have a public here. dialogue of what this means. remember, this happened earlier >> i like president. in the weekend. there was misinformation that they stormed into the hospital we do a lot of speeches and stopped the interrogation. together. and i like it when we have that in fact didn't happen.

but what they did do is pick up disagreements. he is disarmingly direct. the phone and say, we're coming. we were having an argument over we're coming to see you all. health care in one of these so the doj didn't call, speeches and i went on about the german health care system and he according to the senior doj said, i don't know a thing about officials to me today. the german health care system. the u.s. attorney didn't say, pick up the phone and call the i think he probably won the argument. magistrate and try to arrange it >> to know the man is to like at the hospital. certainly the fbi investigators the man. said, we needed more time. now, remember, he's in and out because he is comfortable in his own skin. of consciousness. he knows who he is. he's going for medical he doesn't put on any presences. treatment. so they didn't have enough time he takes his job seriously but to start reconciling some doesn't take himself too seriously. he is a good man. >> i dedicate this library with consistencies in this conversation. it takes a little time to build rapport, where somebody finally unshakeable faith in the future says, i'm done lying to you and of our country. i'll tell you exactly how it it is the honor of a lifetime to happened of the they don't believe they got there. lead a country as brave and as clearly i don't believe they got noble as the united states. there. and i don't know today why a judge would intervene in that whatever challenges come before process when they were us i will always believe our exercising what the u.s. supreme nation's best days lie ahead. court said was a legal enterprise by using the public god bless. safety exception in those interviews. >> so let me just get your sense on the russian connection right

now. do you know why the russians >> the president tearing up. were concerned about these -- our chief national correspondent john king is there for us. about the older brother to begin john, he got pretty emotional with, and why on two occasions there at the very end. they notified the fbi and later they notified the cia? >> he did. that he would say is in the bush >> yes. and to be clear, they really dna. tears at big emotional moments. as a political junkie it is cool weren't two separate instances. to be here on a day like this the fsb for years was a hostile not making judgments about the bush presidency but with five intelligence service to the fbi, presidents on stage, five first ladies, a lot of buzz even among and our cia. they gave limited notification. the republicans saying there is the fbi received that a sixth president up there information. and from what they received, meaning former secretary of conducted a pretty thorough state hillary clinton, will she run in 2016. review of that case to see if this was mostly a day to focus there was any derogatory on the dedication of the information of which they could library. the three democrats all praising do more with. could they go up on his phones, george w. bush setting aside get a fisa, get a court order, differences they've had in the past over things like the iraq war, over things like the interception of his phones. federal government response to none of that happened. no derogatory information. at the same time the cia katrina. president george w. bush as you received exactly the same information. noted emotional at the end. it is striking when you walk in exactly the same form. through. it was more of a procedural thing than it was that they were so concerned that they notified

very touching statue, of both two different places on two george bushes. very striking when you move from different dates. i don't believe that happened. a room with education reform exhibits and a mexican state i believe it was more of a process issue with the fsb. dinner and, bang, 9/11 happened and you're in the room with a now the fbi writes back and twisted piece of steel from the second tower. says, hey, we need a little help the 83rd floor and point of here. we didn't really find anything. impact. can we have some clarification. i had a conversation with president bush and his wife the no response. they asked again. no response. so that was the problem that we ran into. former first lady laura bush and he said he knows this day will so they cooperated a little. they didn't cooperate enough. restoke some of the big i believe they have information that is valuable to our controversies about his administration including the federal response to katrina and the iraq war. investigation here to determine, he says those walking through a, are there persons of interest will find it to be more objective than you might think. here, what activities happened you find the admission there were no weapons of mass destruction in iraq. in russia at the time, what president bush though standing by his decision to remove saddam hussein from power. >> the removal of saddam hussein was the right decision. america is more secure. the iraqi people have a chance to live in a free society.

the museum gives people the chance to hear the different points of view i got on these decisions. the purpose is to show people what it is like to be president and how you make decisions. history will ultimately judge the decisions made for iraq and i'm just not going to be around to see the final verdict. >> it is impressive to be inside the museum. they raised more than $500 million. there is one interactive theater called the decision points theater where you can see some of the advice the president received on iraq, katrina, the financial crisis and as a visitor decide whether you would take the same course or something else. there is an exact replica of the oval office from the george w. bush white house, the sofas,, carpet, desk. i covered the bush white house for six years and it is exactly the same here as at the white house. this is a day for celebration not a day to air political ♪ differences. many of the democratic presidents who are here have had with the bush team in the past and a great celebration and

great to see the 41st president here george herbert walker bush who has had health issues of late and his son was clearly grateful to have his dad on hand for this big day. >> it was really moving to see both of those presidents, 41 and 43 as they're called together and it got emotional for the entire family. thanks very much, john king on ♪ the scene for us at the dedication of the new presidential library. up next, denial in dagestan. ♪ a day after they spoke to the fbi, the parents of the two [ male announcer ] this is a reason to look twice. bombing suspects are speaking with the media. also coming up it began as a fun this is a stunning work of technology. day, the best of what boston has the 2013 lexus es and the first-ever es hybrid. to offer but a bombing victim tells how it ended in pain and this is the pursuit of perfection. horror at the finish line of the marathon. ♪ [ babies crying ] surprise -- [ female announcer ] nothing gets you going your house was built on an ancient burial ground. quite like the power of quaker oats. today is going to be epic. [ ghosts moaning ] surprise -- your car needs a new transmission. quaker up. today is going to be epic. welcnew york state, [ coyote howls ] where cutting taxes for families and businesses how about no more surprises? is our business. now you can get all the online trading tools you need

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i talked about this a little while ago with the republican congressman mike rogers. have they crossed that so-called red line, the game changer the president has suggested, by now the intelligence community believing that some varying degrees of credibility that they have in fact, the syrian regime, used sarin gas, chemical weapons against the rebels? >> well, if you look at the body of intelligence over the last two years, wolf, i think it is fairly indisputable at this point that some quantity of chemical weapons has been used. now the brits have said it, the israelis have said it, the french have said it, and now the white house and the secretary of defense has acknowledged they think chemical weapons have been used. it's hard to make the statement on august 20th, that if they move weapons in a position to be used, or use them it would be a game changer, or red line, you know, i argue that if you're

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certainly something we don't see very off, all five living presidents sharing the same stage. the occasion, the dedication of the george w. bush presidential library in dallas.

breanna keeler is there. >> reporter: graciousness was on full display here as the democratic former presidents praised george w. bush. even president obama, who has been so critical of the bush legacy during his time in office, commended president bush for his resolve after 9/11 and his attempt to pass immigration reform. ♪ the five living presidents, together for the first time since president obama's 2009 inauguration. >> we've been called the world's most exclusive club, and we do have a pretty nice clubhouse. but the truth is, our club is more like a support group. >> reporter: at the dedication of the george w. bush presidential library and museum, they put partisanship aside. >> starting with my work with president george h.w. bush on the tsunami and the aftermath of katrina, people began to joke

that i was getting so close to the bush family, i had become the black sheep son. my mother told me not to talk too long today. and barbara, i will not let you down. >> a frail george h.w. bush received a standing ovation as he struggled to stand himself. barbara bush poured cold water on the idea that former florida governor jeb bush might join them. >> there are other people out there that are very qualified. and we've had enough bushes. >> reporter: inside the museum, displays of the legacy bush intended for himself gave way to the most talked about part of the museum. twisted steel beams from the world trade center, what's thought to be the point of impact. here, there will be employees encouraging museumgoers to reach

out and touch this wreckage as a way to connect to what happened on 9/11. the bull horn president bush used to address workers at ground zero a few days later is on display, along with the gun saddam hussein was carrying when captured in 2003. and era of controversial decisions made by a controversial president. but this day was for celebration, not for criticism. >> whatever challenges come before us, i will always believe our nation's best days lie ahead. god bless. [ applause ] >> reporter: a very emotional day for president bush and the thousands of his supporters who were here today. while this museum and library, women, was dedicated today, it will officially open to the public on play may 1. >> i'm looking forward to

visiting that library. thank you very much for watching. i'm w blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett's "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next. i'm erin burnett live in times square where the mayor of new york said today the suspected marathon bombers were headed to stage yet another attack. plus, we have the latest on the investigation. friends of dzhokhar tsarnaev are now being held in federal custody tonight. and the mother of the two alleged bombers, she says the whole thing was staged, there was no attack. the bizarre conspiracy in her own words. let's go "outfront." ♪ >> "outfront" tonight. this was the next target on the