ensconced with clouds and showers all weekend long and all eyes what's happening in the upper midwest with the flooding but incredibly warm temperatures ex-s a exacerbating the flooding with 60 and 70-degree temperatures. >> all right, alexandra, thank you very much. we appreciate it. much more ahead on "cnn saturday morning" which starts right now. good morning and welcome to our continuing live coverage of the boston bombing. i am poppy harlow coming to you live from boston this saturday morning, it is 8:00 on the east coast, 5:00 out west. thank you for starting your day with us. >> i just sort of want to let those people know that it's not over. it's not, you know, your life isn't done. >> reporter: for some of the boston bombing survivors the

road to recovery seems endless but there is new life after near death. meet one man with a message for the boston victims who speaks from very personal experience. . combing through a landfill. investigators searching for dzhokhar tsarnaev's laptop, what they hope to find if they uncover a missing computer. new information the boston bombers did read an online magazine inspired by al qaeda that explains how to build a bomb. we're going to have much more information on what it is and how it wasn't just a manual but maybe even a motivator. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com i am here on boylston street in boston, behind me the memorials honoring the victims of the bombings, four crosses for sean colliers, the m.i.t. police officer killed in his

car, also lingzi lu, boston university student, krystle campbell the 29-year-old and of course martin richard the 8-year-old boy. last night was an emotional homecoming for the boston celtics. fans filled the garden for the first became at home since the bombings. before the game they paid tribute to the victims and first responders who walked out onto the court to a standing ovation. an hour away from here in new bedford, massachusetts, right near the university of massachusetts dartmouth campus where dzhokhar went to school investigators scouring for his laptop. the computer could provide more information about the planning and execution of the attack. susan candiotti has been following this closely and talked to our anderson cooper about that investigation. >> the leads to search the landfill for that laptop computer came not only from the suspect himself, the young man who is now hospitalized but

others who according to this official may have had knowledge of its whereabouts or may even have played a role in ditching it, getting rid of it after the bombing. now the source says there is also evidence that leads investigators to think that the elder brother tamerlan may have been involved in drug dealing. the source would not elaborate on the nature of the evidence. we've already been talking about the fact they've been looking into whether he may have supported himself through drug dealing but of course if they can find that laptop, anderson, in this landfill, after it had been ditched somewhere that was, you know, like a dumpster, that eventually made it to the landfill, if they can get into that they can find out e-mails and contacts and schedules and instructions, so much other information about how this plot may have come together. >> i understand you also have new information what the bombs were made of or constructed of. >> the belief is that both of the brothers had a remote device

to blow up each of the two bombs. now in terms of the ingredients we know they're still analyzing a lot of this information but they do know that one of the pipe bombs that was used in that shoot-out in watertown, those improvised devices, were, in fact, constructed from elbow pipes. elbow pipes, that is one instruction method rather that comes up from time to time in "inspire" magazine which is something that has been used and promoted by al qaeda to get information about how to make a bomb so that bit of information also is an important part of this alleged plot investigation. >> a very important part. our susan candiotti there. we know that after boston the tsarnaev brothers also planned to attack new york, according to investigators. so far dzhokhar tsarnaev says they worked alone but that may

not be true. congressson mike rodgers is chairman of the house intelligence committee said this to "the boston herald" there are clearly more persons of interest and they're not 100% sure if there aren't other explosives. rogers also had critical words about the decision to mirandize the bombing suspect when it happened next to his hospital bed, dzhokhar tsarnaev, this is several days after his capture. athena jones joining us from washington this morning. good morning. talk to me about what more we know about that decision to read those miranda rights to dzhokhar tsarnaev when that happened. >> reporter: good morning, poppy. well we know that congressman rogers certainly wants to know more about the decision leading up to those rights being read because we know the suspect has become a lot less talkative after hearing those miranda rights. certainly he led investigators to look for the laptop, we learned from the suspect about the plans to go to new york but since he was read his rights he's gotten a lot less talkative and congressman rogers has

written a letter to eric holder demanding a full accounting of the decision leading up to the initial appearance with the judge including who decided that appearance should take place at that specific place and time during this questioning and whether the department of justice or the fbi expressed any concerns about the timing of this and concerns about the fact that the suspect would now be read his miranda rights. i should tell you the department of justice hasn't yet responded directly to that letter to attorney general holder but they did put out a statement saying that the fbi agents and prosecutors in boston weren't told that this initial appearance had been scheduled before it happened and that that was coordinated with the prosecutors, and so we're still learning more information about that, certainly the information that congressman rogers is seeking and we'll see if he gets that. poppy? >> and you know i think it's also important to point out our susan candiotti reported late last night that her sources are saying that the bedside

interviews conducted by interrogators were "very thorough" and the source says investigators did not feel hindered by the timing of the miranda rights and charges being brought forward so i think that's an important point as well. i know you're also hearing from the white house this morning. what can you tell us? >> we haven't heard much from the president himself about this since the investigation began. we heard him initially raise questions about how did these young men become radicalized, how did they decide they wanted to attack in the u.s.. we did hear from vice president biden last night, he was speaking at a forum in sedona, arizona, with senator john mccain. he talked about why he initially called these suspects cowardly knockoff jihadis because he didn't think they were pros. listen to more of what vice president biden had to say. >> the most difficult person to deal with is the self-radicalized or the ones marginally assisted who is not

directed specifically by anybody, because all the intelligence apparatus and all of the means by which we have to infiltrate or pick up the kind of signals we're able to pick up with our significant technological capability is rendered almost useless. >> and so there you heard vice president biden talking about how these suspects came to be radicalized and that's something investigators are continuing to look into. >> athena, thank you very much. this morning dzhokhar tsarnaev is at a federal prison hospital in devens, massachusetts. he was moved friday morning from the boston hospital where some of the bombing victims were being treated. pamela, good morning to you. give our viewers a sense of what it was like ben tsarnaev came to that facility. >> reporter: well, good morning to you, poppy. dzhokhar tsarnaev was brought here to devens federal medal

center yesterday morning by the u.s. marshal service. when he was brought here he went through an intake screening process essentially he was strip searched, went through a medical screen, a psychological screening. from there he was fingerprinted a dna sample taken, photograph taken and all of that was given to the fbi. from there we are told tsarnaev was taken to a restricted part of the facility for high-risk offenders, given his own cell, a basic cell with limited amenities, a steel door, a slot for food, a toilet, a sink and that's about it. he is in a cell by himself we are told. poppy? >> can you talk about, pamela, the conditions there in terms of the abilities of the medical center? because i had heard they don't do, you know, extraordinarily complex surgeries there so it might give us some indication of the health of dzhokhar tsarnaev at this point in time, right? >> reporter: that's right. right now that if silt cares for

around 1,042 patients so right now we're hearing tsarnaev's condition improved drastically. you think last weekend at this time he was in serious condition. we're told now he's in fair condition, he's sitting up, he's writing, so it does seem like he's significantly improving and the fact that he was transferred here from a hospital in boston says a lot as well. >> and any indication at this point, pamela, finally, on when he could go to court next, when he might be moved from where you're standing? >> well, poppy, we don't know exactly when he could be moved from here, but we do know that he could appear in court soon, essentially he was officially charged this past sunday. we have 30 days until an indictment with the grand jury. the grand jury will be presented with evidence to decide what charges he should face and then he is expected to appear in court for an arraignment which he will plead. this could happen fairly soon but there is so much evidence in this case we're told that it

could be at the end of the 30 days that we see this indictment and then the arraignment, from there a pretrial motion, also quickly want to mention here poppy there is a probable cause hearing scheduled for the end of may but we're told there is a good chance he could waive that hearing. >> understood. pamela, thank you, great reporting, appreciate it. the mother of the suspect in the boston bombing investigation insists that her sons are innocent. she and her husband were at a news conference in russia a few days ago. the suspect's father said he planned to come to the united states but so far that trip it looks like has been delayed indefinitely for health reasons. the suspect's mother is now making some stunning claims to cnn. she says she believes that the tragedy that killed three people including a little boy and injured so many others and she believes that the bombing was fake. she told this to our nick paton walsh.

listen. >> i don't know how to describe it, you know. you know mother. you have a mother, right, so just because you are not mother, you won't understand it. i am mother. loving mother. of two kids. i don't know. it's really crazy. i can't even describe it. i don't know. i have no strength. i have nothing. i have like -- i have no sleep. i am just like dead, like a dead person. how can i describe it? >> again the mother of the tsarnaev brothers there saying to our nick paton walsh that she believes that this was staged to set up her sons, that they wouldn't do this. sources say russia raised concerns to the united states about tamerlan tsarnaev and his mother twice in 2011. u.s. authorities added both the

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welcome back, everyone. happy saturday morning to you. it is a beautiful spring morning here in boston. we are on boylston street at this makeshift memorial and i want to walk you around. it has been growing by the day. flowers upon flowers, messages of hope and support. what we saw happen a moment ago city officials blocked out these boards, six flipped around, 12 so for of the boards and there's multiple ones people have been filling with messages, this is a brand new one, people writing their messages of support,

people from boston, people from across the country, people as far away from germany. i met janice and she wrote "always in my thoughts and prayers, remember forever boston strong, love janice murray." she's from here. i said why are you here this morning? she said i'm from boston and i wasn't ready to come until now. i was grieving. we've been through so much, and this seemed like the right moment to come so you have to remember as this city heals it also takes a lot of time for many people to come back here and cope with what has happened but it's a beautiful reminder of the lives that were, a reminder of the tragedy but also a sign of strength and hope for this city. another sign of strength and hope for the amputees we know at least 13 people have had amputees, another sign of hope is other amputees who have gone through that and know that there is life after near death. we met one of them.

mooji kareen's daily workout is so much more than becoming fit, it's about becoming himself again. this was mooji two years ago. the former safety for the university of new hampshire wildcats learning to walk again after a tragic car crash that took his legs and nearly killed him. when you heard about the bombing and you realized people had lost limbs from it what did you think? >> it brought me back to a bad place, and, but i just sort of want to let those people know that it's not over. it's not, you know, your life isn't done. >> it doesn't have to break you. >> no, doesn't have to break you at all. >> reporter: he knows what more than the one dodd amputee bombing victims face. i wonder what the biggest fear has been for you as you've gone

through this. >> to be honest my biggest fear is just not being myself again. >> this is a very stable -- >> reporter: the man who got muji up and walking again is the one who will do the same for nearly all the bombing amputees. >> being able to see somebody walk with a prosthesis for the first time is transformative. >> reporter: spalding's brand new rehabilitation hospital is just opening now. >> they have on intensive medical units, high dose medication, so sometimes the process of invitation only begins when they come to rehabilitation. >> reporter: it's not just rehabilitating their bodies and it's just about rehabilitating their mind and emotionally where they stand. >> that's right. losing a limb is akin to losing a loved one. we look at an amputation as a transforming event, but i tell patients that it helps, it clearly shapes them as an

individual, but it doesn't define them. so you know, you're defined by what you have, not by what you've lost. >> reporter: muji will be right alongside him working with other amputees to help the bombing victims battle back. >> this really has affected the entire community. >> i just want to walk in and let them know be sort of that ray of hope for them, let them know their life's not over. you might feel like you're not happy that you survived because i went through those same sort of feelings. >> reporter: but this makes it different for these victims. >> to know somebody purposely did something like that, you lost what you lost, that's something i never had to deal with. >> reporter: but muji believes -- >> if you stay with a positive mind-set and you're willing to work for it i'm living proof that you can get where you want to be. >> muji karim is living roof proof. just a yearning it took him 57 minutes to walk the same distance that he can walk now

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the boat where boston bombing suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev hid before he was finally caught has now been taken to a new location. it happened late yesterday and sources say police did not find any guns inside of the boat when they searched it. the boat owner had called 911 when he spotted blood on the boat, saw the tarp waving in the air that he had tied down so tightly. really a hero for doing that and calling 911. that boat was towed from the backyard in watertown yesterday. it is being moved to a secure location so investigators can keep examining it.meantime the n bombing suspect tamerlan tsarnaev has largely remained out of public sight but we're getting the first glimpse in days. catherine russell was spotted leaving her family's home in rhode island yesterday. she is the woman in the headscarf, the other woman next to her, her attorney.

little is known about catherine russell, the 24-year-old married tsarnaev in 2010, they have a 3-year-old daughter together. through her attorneys russell insisted the bombing was an "absolute shock" to her. erin mcpike is in providence, rhode island. you saw russell when she left the house yesterday. >> reporter: poppy, we saw katie russell friday web she finally was escorted by her attorneys to their office behind me where they metaphor about 90 minutes. when she arrived i did get a chance to ask her how are you doing and what's happening. she didn't answer any of that. she looked bewildered. she left, we did not see her leave. we know her attorneys will be here working all weekend, poppy. >> reporter: absolutely, erin, thank you. learning to make a bomb online, one terror group explains the how to, giving step by step details, so does the magazine

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value but will take the time to determine the truth. >> the president wants the facts and i'm not going to set a time line because the facts need to be what drives this investigation, not a deadline. >> reporter: after a meeting on friday with jordan's king abdullah, president obama reiterated "preliminary assessments that chemical weapons have been used on people in syria," the president saying if that is the case that would be a game changer. another story we're following this morning, investigators in new york taking a closer look at this, it's a piece of an airplane's landing gear. officials believe it is from one of the airplanes that crashed into the world trade center on 9/11, the five foot long piece of metal was found in a small space near an islamic community center. the plane part will be examined by both the medical exercise's office and the ntsb. number three, good news for

travelers, lawmakers voting on friday to end the furlough of air traffic controllers. now the bill goes to the president who says he will sign it. the airport staff reductions went into place last sunday delaying thousands of flights throughout the week, a move that frustrated many passengers. >> they were in a rush to get us seated and he didn't mention any delays. i think they were trying to keep it from us as long as possible but after some frustrating time passed sitting on the runway, the pilot finally came on and said, well, ladies and gentlemen, we're about 24th in line, it's going to be at least 45 minutes. >> reporter: finally, russian security forces raiding a place of worship in southern moscow on friday in a crackdown on suspected islamic extremists. 140 people were detained. officials say the site had been visited before by suspected radicals, including some from chechnya. the raid is not believed at this point to be linked at all to the

boston bombings. back here in boston, investigators hoping to get a look at boston bombing suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev's laptop but the problem is it may be buried in a landfill in new bedford, massachusetts, that's where authorities are searching, scouring after getting tips from dzhokhar himself and people who knew dzhokhar. the landfill is near the university of massachusetts dartmouth, that is where dzhokhar went to school and where he was spotted in the days after the bombing. also, investigators are taking a closer look at the older brother, 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev. there are reports he may have sold marijuana, possibly sold marijuana to support himself so that is not confirmed at this point by investigators. pressure cookers turned in to weapons of massive destruction, used to attack boston and the

instructions to create one are widely available on the internet. one of the devices found between police and the two suspects is a metal elbow pipe bomb. it was very similar to the design from an al qaeda online magazine called "inspire." now authorities now question if the web was the brother's sole recruiter in becoming radicalized. is that even possible? we're going to have that discussion with two experts, cnn's national security analyst peter bergen and i'm joined by m.i.t. professor of social studies of science and technology, sherry turkel, thank you for being here. sherry, it is possible to be radicalized online. we've seen it happen before. >> yes. >> we also know it is more rare often when we see radicalization if that is the case among these two brothers it often requires face-to-face contact. what is your assessment on how prevalent online, solely online

radicalization is. >> i think it's becoming more prevalent because in this new age, the internet serves as a community. people find their community and their places of contact and comfort on the internet and so i think that you're going to be able to see the internet as a place where people do become radicalized. >> you could see hours and hours. >> hours and hours, that's where people go. >> peter, i want to talk to you about what is on this online magazine "inspire" and also there's been questions about how it's so widely circulated, not shut down, how closely it's monitored by u.s. authorities. what can you tell us about that? what do we know about that? >> well, shutting these things down is not particularly easy because you just shut it down and it pops up somewhere else and some other jihadi forum. >> right. >> 80% of the internet traffic

in the world goes through the united states, so technically it would be possible to shut down a lot of these sites but for law enforcement there's also a value in having these sites up, who is visiting them, so there's been this kind of tension between information gathering because you can monitor these jihadi forums and also the fact that they are clearly sometimes inspiring people. >> that's a very important point the need to be able to track them and follow them. peter, do you have a sense how much more prolific online internet recruitment is now, how much more common it is now than around 9/11. have we seen it increase significantly? >> certainly with the advent of broadband video, it's much more exciting what you find on the internet than what you find around the 9/11 time period. this began during the iraq war when al qaeda in iraq posted beheadings of people it had kidnapped, video of some of its

operations, so certainly the online environment is more attractive. that said, you know, even in -- the cases where somebody's been exclusively radicalized online i think are less frequent than at the end of the day good old-fashioned face-to-face, that's more powerful. >> it's a very important point that we have to point out as dzhokhar tsarnaev tells investigators, it was my brother and i solely that did this. of course he would have the incentive to say that and sherry, when you look at the characteristics of someone as a psychologist, it would be more easily radicalized solely online. are there any characteristics that would stand out to you? >> someone who is isolated. >> which is not dzhokhar tsarnaev as we know from his friends. >> yes, but someone who still wants to keep their activities, these kinds of activities you know isolated from the rest of their life, which is kind of the case. it was kind of a parallel life going on.

so this is a guy who wanted to be on his team, who wanted to keep a kind of parallel life going and his parallel life was taking place online. so i think he's a perfect case of somebody who would lead a parallel life online and that life was very rich. >> you're talking about dzhokhar. he and his brother were very different people, very different in their social interactions and things like that. interesting in terms of some comments that were made, senator marco rubio of the senate intelligence committee talked about this new element of terrorism earlier this week saying we have to face this new element of terrorism in our country, he said we need to be prepared for boston type attacks, not just 9/11 type attacks and how, sherry and peter, i'll start with you on that. do you agree that, given what we've seen this country needs to prepare differently? >> i think the country is quite well prepared. i mean by the law of averages, there are going to be terrorism

attacks that get through. interestingly, this is the first jihadist terrorist attack since 9/11. we've seen a number of sort of right wing extremist attacks that have also succeeded. but the number of victims of these attacks, while each one is a tragedy you're looking at perhaps 20, 21 victims of jihadi terrorism since 9/11 in this country. that would not have been a predictable figure in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 when people expected there would be other large scale attacks. >> right. >> so it's hard to say this right now in the context of a recent attack but we're being comparatively lucky, you go back to before 9/11 we had oklahoma city, we had the world trade center attack in '93. we have been able through a lot of the actions of many different government agencies to basically prevent a lot of attacks before they happen. >> and as you said i think that's very difficult even to talk about right now in the wake of this tragedy, where we're standing at the memorial, but

your thoughts on that, sherry? >> my thought is that when you think of our focus, only a few years ago, did bill clinton go to the soviet union as though that contamination physically would make a difference in what his sensibility was. now we have to think in terms of what do people see online and really take that as where they change their minds and i think that is a way that we have to start to think and take that really seriously. it isn't physical contamination body to body. it's where your head is and the internet is where people -- >> and the core of the freedoms of american people and the country to read online anything you would like, be involved in those forums. >> that's where we immediate to think differently. >> sherry turkle thank you, and peter bergen, very interesting discussion this morning, thank you both. will defending boston bombing suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev, up next his all-star

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can. welcome back, everyone. now to the legal and daunting task of trying to defend dzhokhar tsarnaev, the suspected bomber, for his alleged role in the boston marathon bombings including the possibility he could face the death penalty. is he represented by miriam conrad one of the most respected public defenders in the country her resume includes the shoe

bomber richard reid. paul callan we talked about this extensively. this attorney is a heavy hitter, she has experience in this field in terms of defending someone like this. question to you, possible strategy. what do you think it is? >> well, it's two things. it's going to be cooperation and mitigation. i say that because her primary objective is to try to avoid the death penalty for the suspect, and to do that, she really has to give federal authorities something and possibly he'll come forward and provide information that will be valuable in discovering other terrorist networks or how the explosives were obtained in this case. that would be the cooperation element that's a playing card. the second is mitigation and by that i mean they're going to try to convince the department of justice that he's 19 years old. he was influenced by his older brother, possibly his mother from the video that we've seen

and that that's a fact that should be taken into consideration so that he does not get the death penalty. so i don't think they realistically think they can win this case. i think really their one objective is to try to avoid the death penalty. >> i really want to talk about this issue of the miranda rights being read bedside at the hospital to dzhokhar tsarnaev and when that happened and why. house intelligence committee chairman mike rogers has been very upset about this saying multiple times he thinks that prematurely intended the interrogation and we could have gotten much more important information, significant information in those early hours out of dzhokhar tsarnaev, but at the same time, a source tells our susan candiotti that the bedside interviews were "very thorough" that investigators did not feel that that reading of miranda rights hindered the timing of the charges and hindered their questioning. what is your take on it at this point in time? >> you know, poppy, this has been hugely controversial and

for good reason. normally when a u.s. citizen is arrested and this young man is a naturalized u.s. citizen, he's held by law enforcement authorities and he has to be given his miranda warnings and eventually a judge appears or he appears in court to be arraigned in front of a judge. what people are saying now and particularly those critical of the obama administration and the department of justice is that he should have been deemed an enemy combatant, that what we call public safety exception to miranda should have been utilized and he should have been interrogated for a very long period of time before a federal judge came into the picture. however, the department of justice arranged for a federal judge to arrive at the hospital. once the judge was there, the judge had an obligation to tell him he had the right to remain silent and the right to counsel. the judge did exactly what he was supposed to do and i have to say you're going to see lawyers and judges arguing about this issue as to whether it's legal to delay indefinitely giving

miranda warnings to an american citizen. there's going to be a big debate about this and how it affects this case ultimately. one of the things i'll throw out there for you, some of the evidence in the case could actually get thrown out now because he wasn't given miranda. you were showing footage earlier of the landfill in boston being combed, if they're looking there because of information that he gave before the miranda warnings, they may not be able to use that in the criminal case so this is going to be a big issue going down the road. >> that is certainly a question. paul callan, appreciate you joining us with your expertise. thank you. >> nice being with you, poppy. the definition of heroism, two first responders of the boston terror attack will join me next. they refused to leave the dangerous scene despite warnings. all so they could rescue complete strangers.

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well, risking their lives to save complete strangers. within 18 minutes of the blast at the marathon, boston emts say they cleared the streets of all critical victims, it's something they will never forget, kimberly horn and robert sterns are with me now, i was lucky enough to sit down with them and other emts to talk about the work, i commend you, it is brave beyond words. thank you for what you did. mike fossey says he thinks that day was the city's worst day and the department's best day. what do you think? >> in the sense that we could all come together and help, a lot of people were there to help as well. lot of us were on the same page.

we trained for this and as horrible as it is we're glad that we have that training going in. >> i know one of the things that stood out to you and the other emts, robert is the fact that so many civilians ran in to help you and didn't run away. >> yes, usually in a situation like this, everyone runs the other way, something any kind of incident happens people run across the street or push back and in this instance they came and helped us lift or hold pressure real quick and then we took over from there. >> one of the other things that happened, there was a lot of concern about other possible explosives and police at one point told you as you were treating a critically wounded victim they told you, you need to leave, you need to leave right now but you wouldn't. what happened? >> well, they basically said there was a suspicious package in our area within a 30-foot radius or so and we need to get everyone out of here and we just basically said we can't leave until we get everyone out of

here. they stressed we need to go now. we said we can't go until we clear everyone. once that was done we cleared out but until all the patients -- >> you refused. >> i think she was the last one we got out. which is really -- >> fortunate for you. when we talked last you said that one of the best things, if not the best thing about our job is that we get to go back and see these people get better and see them literally get back up and walking again especially in this case. i know that in this past week you and i were messaging back and forth. you both had a chance to reunite with a special person. can you tell me about that? >> we did, that's i think the best thing that's happened to either one of us since all of this happened. we heard from somebody else who treated one of the victims they wanted us to go up and see her and it was, the family was amazing, the support she has is

amazing, her mother was injured and not to get into specifics but just the strength of the family was absolutely amazing and they were making us feel -- i was crying a lot, just to see her looking so well and it's just amazing and i have a hard time even hearing people say they're a victim of what happened but these folks sore strong and amazing and they're just what they're bringing to the table for each other and for the rest of the community is unbelievable. >> wow. i can only imagine, what was that like for you to have that reunion? because the last time you saw her was in the most critical condition, running her into the hospital. >> it was good to see her. she was, she had color, she was speaking with us. she was making jokes, the family was making jokes. they were very strong people. they just, you know, they had an enormous sense of humor. they're making jokes and thanking us. we were up there for about 20

minutes and it was really good to see them because usually we don't get to see the aftermath or the outcome of a patient. >> at least certainly not to that extent we don't typically visit people in their room. it's a small community so sometimes we have patients over and over again and we see them and see they're getting better and this is obviously a different circumstance and it was amazing. >> i'm so glad, thank you for sharing it with us. i commend you for your bravery. when i first talked to you a few days after the wednesday after the bombings you had just come off your night shift so you really did not stop working, you guys have kept on working through all of this but thank you very much and know that everyone here appreciates what you did. >> thank you. >> thank you. we'll keep in touch absolutely. just ahead at the top of the hour, new details as investigators comb through a landfill in search of evidence from the boston bombings. i had enough of feeling embarrassed about my skin.

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i saw one man just a bit ago, dan, write on the message board, "team brookline" and "boston strong" and that's what you hear over and over again, families coming to honor all of the victims of the horrific attack, bringing flowers, messages of support. one woman this morning, janice, telling me she's from boston, she didn't have the strength to come here to the memorial until today, as this city slowly begins to heal and it is appropriately just a lovely day, shining down here on this memorial. to the investigation now, it has moved about an hour from here to a landfill, that is where investigators are conducting a search for dzhokhar tsarnaev's laptop, it is near the campus of the university of massachusetts dartmouth, that is where dzhokhar was seen in the days after the attacks, where he went to school. it is believed that laptop could have important information on the planning of the bombing and in washington, a warning that

more arrests could be coming, that warning coming from congressman mike rogers, a republican chairman of the house intelligence committee in an interview with "the boston herald" rogers said, "there are clearly more persons of interest and they're not 100% sure if there aren't other explosives." very important. now let's go to the prison hospital where the suspect is waking up this morning, that is about 40 miles from where he was receiving treatment in a boston hospital. our pamela brown is outside of the federal medical center in devens this morning. good morning. let's talk about the laptop. at this point in time what do we know about that search? >> reporter: well, poppy, at this hour, investigators are still combing through that landfill looking for what's believed to be dzhokhar tsarnaev's laptop and we are told by forces they were tipped off about this not only from the suspect himself but also from others who have been questioned in this investigation who may

know his whereabouts or who may have played a role in disposing of the laptop after the april 15th bombing at the boston marathon. authorities are still searching for the laptop and part of this investigation, authorities are following up on leads whether tamerlan, the older brother, may have been involved in drug dealing. this is just the latest in an investigation that is ongoing. we've been told by sources that they are still following up on several leads, that this investigation is far from over, so we could still see more happening and poppy, we are hearing reports that dzhokhar tsarnaev is no longer talking with authorities after he was mirandized on monday, but we have been told that authorities were able to gather a lot of information last weekend during the interrogation. >> absolutely. sources telling our susan candiotti that. now pamela, where you are at the prison hospital where dzhokhar now is, what do we know about

his condition? >> well we know that his condition has significantly improved, poppy. if you think about it, a week from today, last weekend, he was still in serious condition. now we're hearing he's in fair condition, he's able to sit up and write and the fact that he was transported to this federal medical center from a hospital in boston i think says a lot so it does seem like he is doing significantly better. >> i know he has a cell by himself, if you would explain it a little slot they can put food in for him. in terms of how long he's going to be there, when we might see you next in court, any information on that? >> well, poppy, it may not be long until we see him in court. we have 30 days for indictment from the day he was officially charged which was last sunday so after that indictment, there will be an arraignment where he will make a court appearance and plead, so it really may not be

long. also, there is a probable cause hearing scheduled for the end of may but we are told from sources and the justice department that there is a good chance he will waive that hearing which is common because so much evidence is typically released in those types of hearings. poppy? >> pamela, thank you very much and folks, talking about tamerlan tsarnaev, the older suspect, it's important to know as much as possible about his wife, the wife of tamerlan tsarnaev, she has remained largely out of public sight since the tragedy. her name is catherine russell, but she did emerge from her family's home yesterday and erin mcpike is outside of the home in north kingstown, rhode island. you saw her, she emerged from the home yesterday. any word from her? did you hear anything from her or any other family members? >> reporter: well today poppy we've just seen her mother outside twice. we have not seen katie russell

since yesterday. we saw her yesterday and tuesday when she was having meetings with her attorneys but otherwise when any of the family members have left they've usually been trailed by a security vehicle. we've seen lots of security vehicles stationed outside the house this week. when the families want to get outside there's one child here, they want to get outside and play they go to the backyard, staying largely out of site and the only time we've seen katie she's had to leave for meetings with her attorneys, poppy. >> and in terms of what we've heard, we've heard nothing from her. we've gotten that one statement from her attorneys a few days ago saying she knew nothing about this, she was not involved at all, emphasizing she really worked around the clock and wasn't even home that often and now that we know she's meeting with her attorneys do we have any further indication from sources on what they're discussing, how they're cooperating with authorities? >> reporter: poppy, not at all. as you can imagine her attorneys

aren't breathing a word. we got a little bit of detail from them earlier in the week, that as you said, she was cooperating with the fbi, but we don't yet know if she's actually sat down and spoken to the fbi. hard to say, because the fbi won't confirm or deny that either. it looks like she is still trying to inform her attorneys of what she might have known but nothing yet from the fbi other than to say that they want to get more information from her, poppy. >> and she's been described by some as an all-american girl. she worked according to her lawyers seven day ace week as a home health care aide. we don't know that much about her. you've had a chance to talk to some of the neighbors there at her family home, not where she lived before but what have they been able to tell you? >> reporter: they said she's very normal. in high school she was well liked, she was smart, she was dependable. i talked to her boss who was the owner of a doughnut shop down

the street where she worked in high school. he said she was like a daughter to him, she was very good with the money, very hard working. i spoke yesterday with one guy who said he went to a high school dance with her when they were freshman. he said she was normal but poppy, she hasn't lived here in six years so we don't know much of what it was like when she was with tamerlan, what happened when she went to college and dropped out. there's a big gap in what we know in the last six years because she dsn't rema well connected to the community although people are saying they really like the russell family, it's a very good family, they like her younger sisters quite a bit, poppy. >> all right, erin mcpike live for us this morning, thank you. we'll return to our special coverage on the boston bombings in a moment but first we'll take you to the site where a piece of a plane believed to be from the 9/11 attack has been discovered in new york city.

texas governor rick perry wants an apology from the "sacramento bee" over this editorial cartoon shows an explosion with the caption reading "business is booming in texas." perry says it is a mockery of last week's fertilizer explosion that killed 14 and injured many others. the draw something a statement about perry's disregard for safety and policies promoting fewer regulations for businesses. the long delays at the airport could soon be ending. congress sent president obama a bill aimed at ending the furloughs that caused a big headache for traveler this is week. the plan gives the faa more power to move around $253 million and to get 15,000 air traffic controllers back to work. the president is expected to sign that bill. and nearly 12 years after th collapse of the world trade center and those horrific 9/11 attacks, police in new york think they may have found a piece of the landing gear from one of the planes that crashed

into the towers. this was found wedged between two buildings, it has a boeing identification number on it, that's what police commissioner ray kelly says and officials are tracking an i.d. to see which hijacked plane it may be from. officials are also looking at how it could have gotten there. alina cho is live from new york this morning. good morning to you, alina. can you talk to us about how exactly this was found? >> yes, poppy, good morning to you. this discovery is amazing and incredible on so many different levels. here's what happened basically. on wednesday, surveyors were here at the building behind me here. they were looking to do some construction work, they went to the backyard of the building and started looking around and they discovered what they described as a mechanical part. upon closer inspection, they were able to actually see a serial number and the word "boeing." that's when the fbi and the ntsb

and other officials were called. they took a closer look at it and incredibly they've determined that it appears it is the landing gear from one of the planes that crashed into the twin towers on 9/11. now, this discovery is incredible on so many different levels. first, the sheer size of the piece, it is five feet by four feet by 17 inches of depth, and then when you look at where it was found. it was wedged between two buildings, just an 18 inch very narrow space and it was found there. so then the question becomes how did it get there? nypd commissioner ray kelly has his theory. >> the space between the two buildings is only 18 inches. now the part has been measured to be five feet by four feet by 17 inches. so it's a big part and obviously very, very narrow confined area.

somehow the part gets down there. could it have been lowered at some time? it's possible. there's a rope that's on, intertwined with that part. it would have had to fall down exactly you know, it hit at a certain angle make it go right down. >> as you can see behind me here there's a police officer on guard. this is technically a crime scene, starting on monday, the chief medical examiner will be he on site to search for toxins and human remains. family members we have spoken to of 9/11 are frankly outraged, poppy. they say this is just the latest example of the fact that aprer t conducted. now, after the investigation, if you will, is concluded in this area, then the question is, how do you actually g that piece out?

it's wedged between those two buildings in that narrow space and investigators have still not been able to figure out how they're going to do that. poppy? >> just a shocking discovery. alina, thank you very much. you can see we have been standing in front of this beautiful and growing memorial for the boston bombing victims. we're going to give you a closer look at it and all the ways that people continue to pay tribute to those victims here in boston. ♪

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tied to this, right next to that american flag, all sending one message and that message is boston strong. i want to tell you about a some of the people i met here this morning. wonderful man named dan who came to sign, we'll show you one of these posters that is up and he said "be strong, team brookline" and also on this side, a message from janice murray, janice came about an hour ago and she wrote "always in my thoughts and prayers, remember forever," and janice told me, i'm a bostonian but i couldn't come here until today i wasn't ready yet. we're hearing some people could come right away, others were not able until today. meghan joins us live. you go to college not far from here. it's a beautiful day just like it was on that horrific day of the attack. why are you here today? why was it important for to you come right now? >> i think it's important to just come and pay your respects.

i didn't directly know anyone that was injured but i did know a bunch of friends running in it and i think it's important that boston, goes to school outside of boston to come and take a look at all the people who really care about what happened, all the people who had relationships with people who got injured or who were just running and to see the whole community of boston coming together. there's so many people here. >> i know it's amazing. >> you look at the flowers it's amazing how many there are and it's really important to come together as a community and kind of be there for one another. >> what is boston strong mean to you? we hear it over and over again. i'm not a native bostonian so what does it mean to you? >> boston strong, i mean i think the overarching theme is community, and i think it just is everyone coming together and kind of making sure that nothing like this happens again, making sure everyone's united, everyone is there for one another, i think that boston being, i'm

comparatively a small city it's a lot easier to come together. >> meghan, enjoy it here. appreciate you talking to us. if you want to help any of the victims of the attack go to cnn.com/impa. there are so many ways where you can help the amputees or any of the other victims in this attack, go to cnn.com/impact, we'll be right back.

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and that is just part of a beautiful memorial here in boston for the bombing victims. we are joining you live from boylston street. at this hour, authorities are looking into the boston bombing, they're searching a landfill about 40 miles from where i'm standing hoping to find a laptop computer used by bombing suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev. it could have very important information about the attacks. sources say police were tipped off to the landfall by tsarnaev himself and others. things got a little emotional, very emotional last night at the garden because the boston celtics played their first home game since the bombings. before the game, the team paid tribute to the victims and the first responders. you see some of them walking there onto the court and this morning at this hour, dzhokhar tsarnaev, that suspect is waking up in a prison hospital ward in devens, massachusetts, before being moved, authorities say he was able to sit up and to write but he has become a lot less

forthcoming with information since being read his miranda rights. some storiesaking news we are following this morning, president obama promising a "vigorous investigation" into allegations syria has used chemical weapons in its civil war against rebels. u.s. and british officials say there is evidence the syrian regime has used the nerve gas sarin on a small scale. >> to use potential weapons of mass destruction on civilian populations crosses another line with respect to international norms and international law and that is going to be a game changer. >> the president did not say what the united states would do if the allegations syria has used chemical weapons prove to be true. syria calls those allegations lies. in bangladesh, arrests were made in connection to the building collapse that has killed at

least 334 people. according to the state-run news agency, eight people, including two factory owners, are in custody, with hundreds more still missing under that rubble. the death toll is expected to rise. what a horrific story. i will see you back here again at the top of the hour. "your bottom line" with christine romans starts right now. three dead at the blast, more than 200 injured. boston is slowly getting back to normal but as the country mourns the dead, comforts the injured and pursues the how and why of this attack another question has emerged, has the outrage over the boston bombings doomed immigration reform? i'm christine romans and this is "your money." last year the united states handed out more than 1 million green cards, an estimated 13.1 million green cardholders in this country. one of them was tamerlan tsarnaev, the older brother suspected in this