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this week, find out the surprising family connection between republican congressman jason shave vits and michael dukakis. if you missed any part of today's show, find us on itunes. fareed zakaria, "gps" is next. this is "gps global public square." welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. today we'll ask how to handle terrorism post-boston. start with the former director of cia and national security agency michael haden. how to stop the lone, self-radicalized terrorists. next, we'll take you halfway around the world to chechnya to delve into the chechen connection. how does someone get radicalized? i'll ask the director of a terrific and timely new movie "the reluctant fundamentalist." and we'll talk to google's
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executive chairman eric schmidt about technology and terrorism, as well as other things. finally, why the world can't get enough of ben franklin. i'll explain. but, first, here's my take. as we learn more about the brothers tsarnaev, we want to ask larger questions about radical islam, muslim communities, and the breakdown of assimilation. what do they tell us about all this? the most accurate answer might turn out to be, not much. larger phenomenon might be at work. but these two young men may not reflect an intensification of these trends. it seems they are two alienated young men who turned toward hate and allegedly to murder. that was the point the brother's uncle made when he pointedly called his nephews losers. >> these losers. >> he was arguing against the
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notion that thank you the boys represented a larger community and larger trend. him and his family were part of the same chechen migration to the u.s. and law-abiding and thoroughly american. since 9/11, foreign-inspired terrorism has claimed about two dozen lives in the united states. during that same period, more than 100,000 people have been killed in gun homicides and more than 400,000 in motor vehicle accidents in america. one crucial reason the number of terrorism deaths is low is that america does not have large pools of alienated immigrants. polls have repeatedly shown, for example, that muslim immigrants to the united states embrace core american values. american assimilation continues to function well. now, could it do better? well, there's one surprising place that the u.s. could learn something from. europe. i know, i know, a simulation has worked much better in the united states than there, but let's acknowledge that european countries are dealing with a much larger problem. muslims make up 5% of the
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population in germany, 7.5% in france and 0.8% in the united states, according to pew calculations. jonathan lawrence found that before 1990, european countries were largely indifferent towards their muslim populations, letting foreign embassies like saudi arabia set up the mosques for these groups. they realized this produced a radicalized unassimilated immigrant community. so, now, in recent years, governments at all levels are engaging with muslim communities, taking steps to include muslims in main stream society. but also trying to nurture our modern european version of islam. it is worth noting islamic tourism has declined in europe in the last couple of years. the lesson from europe appears to be engage with muslim communities. that's a conclusion that u.s. law enforcement agencies would confirm. the better the relationship with
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local muslim groups, the more likely those groups are to provide useful information about potential jihadis. an attack in canada apparently inspired but perhaps directed by al qaeda was foiled for just this reason an imam in toronto noticed one of his congregants was acting strangely. they followed the man and got him before he could execute his plan. before briefing reporters on their collaboration, canada's top counterterrorism official invited toronto's islamic leaders to a meeting and thanked them for their help. but for the muslim communities intervention, we may not have had the success, said the official, according to one lawyer who was at the meeting. in the wake of boston, the smartest move we could do would be greater outreach to these communities so that the next time someone begins to act strangely, community leaders pick up the phone and call their friends at the police. for more on this, you can read
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my column in "the washington post" go to our website cnn.com/fareed for a link. let's get started. is it possible to stop self-radicalized terrorists who are here in america legally. joining me now a man who should know. michael hayden led the cia and the nsa, the national security agency. welcome back to the show. >> thanks, fareed. >> watching boston. what did you think? you look at these guys and no particular track record, one trip, maybe they had radical views, but had never done anything violent. >> which is a fairly large club. >> which is a fairly large club. so, is there some system? should we be thinking of a way we could stop this in the future? >> here's why i choose to think about it, fareed. if you look at this attack.
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look at any attack, particularly looking in the rear view mirror as opposed to looking through the wind screen, you could judge that it could have been prevented. this was preventable, if. but let me also offer you the view that attacks of this nature are inevitable. this is like penalty kicks in soccer. no matter how good the goalie is, sooner than later the ball is going in the back of the net. i don't mean to be so dark for your viewers but they have to understand we're working in a part of the spectrum now that is well below what we experienced more than a decade ago. i mean, look, what happened in boston was a tragedy. truly a tragedy. but it wasn't a catastrophe. if we force our enemies to work in that band where from the outside looking in it's hard to tell whether this was a high-end crime or a low-end terrorist event. that's the pressure of our -- that's a measure of our success preventing our enemies
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from doing that which they want to do, the mass casualty attack against the iconic target. >> suppose you have a few of these people and they get radicalized on the internet and they learn how to make this tough through inspire magazine or there's lots of information on the internet outside of al qaeda sites. is there something you can do? you ran national security agency and you can eavesdrop on conversations. what can you do? >> look, probably things you could do on the margin that reduced the odds of this a bit, but i've taken to describing our efforts out here like this and they're good enough now that those things that used to really frighten us, 9/11, very, very unlikely. now what do you have? you have boston, little rock. you got a saz zircy /* -- a sazcy coming to new york.
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now, the question i ask the american public as an intelligence officer. what do you want me to do with my arm? i can push it down a bit. i can buy you marginally more safety, but at what cost? at what cost in your privacy? at what cost at your comfort? at what cost in your convenience? at what cost at your commerce? these are all serious questions. the folks inside the american intelligence community will respond to the republic. they do what you tell them to do. as a citizen, my judgment is that's about where we want it to be. if you push this down much further, we do what i've said we haven't done to date, which is we begin to change our dna as a free people. now, free -- the dark side to that, as i said before, this is penalty kicks. this is going to happen. it's a level of risk that i'm disappointed to say we're probably going to have to live. >> when you look at the situation of the older brother going to chechnya or dagestan or
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russian intelligence tipping us off. is there anything there that should have been done differently. >> looking back, even those sympathetic to how hard a problem is, will say i wonder if and could we have done that. but let me give you a couple of factors. how many tips do you get in a week? and the answer is a lot. and this is came from the fsb, the russian service. the russians are mad at a bunch of chechens. not many are terrorists or dangerous to the united states. so you have that factor and travel to dagestan probably wasn't the alerting thing to us that it would have been had he gone to where threats to the united states have been generated. it will change our checklist and add a few questions to those fbi interviews, but i'm -- look, we'll let the facts take us
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where they will but i'm reluctant to criticize the bureau or anyone else on this yet. >> when you look at boston and what they were able to do, do you worry with a little more skill a little more planning it could have been much worse. >> yes. i do. i mean, i'm not going to sit here and give tips to future terrorist bombers how they could have acted differently. but if they were better in their trade craft, this could have been a lot worse. >> do you think in order to do something big, you need to be able to track the money, in other words, what makes you feel this stays below a certain radar? >> because the attacks up here are really complicated. they are slow moving and lots of threads. you've got to move people and things. you've got to get money. you've got to pass instructions. and, fareed, right now american intelligence is so much flooding that zone that we're pretty much grabbing most of those threads.
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and you start pulling one or another thread and pretty soon you've got the fur ball of the plot. >> do you worry, in the way that many politicians have, that the surviving terrorist was read his miranda rights and is going through a criminal process? >> the criminal process, i'm indifferent on. i am. i'm an intelligence officer and he's not eligible for military commissions, but i know we debate military commissions into article three courts. i don't care. i'm interested in the information. i want to question him in the most effective way to learn about this event and any other future events or perhaps any other plotters with whom they were connected. i was surprised that he was mirandized so quickly. particularly given what the administration had said. apparently, based upon press reports, the people doing the interrogation were surprised, as well. he had the high value interrogation group that was
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formed at the beginning of the administration to do this very kind of thing. as they're going through with him talking fairly freely, a judge, assistant u.s. attorney come in and read him his miranda rights and he stopped talking. i'm not a lawyer, but from the outside looking in, i don't understand that. >> do you think that -- when you think about this going forward, is there something we should be doing in terms of, you know, vetting visas, again, you get in to the problem of risk reward. but, again, there have been cries about that. do you think there is some effective way to do anything? >> look, there are three quarters of a million people names in the t.i.d.e. database. >> what is the t.i.d.e. database. >> that is the person of interest file for counterterrorism here in the
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united states. would you feel better if we have a million in there? in fact, in fact, prior to the christmas day bombing in 2009, the complaint, my old community was fielding almost on a daily basis is why are you interfering so much with commerce and travel? we have too many people on the no fly list and all of a sudden after the event more people should be put on the no-fly list. there's a balance here. the immediate reaction after any event like boston is you should have done more. but, coolly thinking about this, there are serious tradeoffs involved here. we did all this, fareed, for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. you have to keep those things in balance all the time. and to go too far in one direction, inevitably, is at expense of the other virtues. >> michael hayden, pleasure to have you on. >> thanks, fareed. up next, the boston bomber's connection to chechnya. what is it and what does it mean?
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chechnya and the region as a whole has a bloodied and deadly history that dates back hundreds of years. what can we learn about the suspects by understanding their homeland? i have two terrific guests to talk about it. anne applebaum pulitzer prize wins historian and a columnist for the "washington post" and anatol lieve at king's college london. thank you, both, for joining me. >> thanks. >> anne, let me start with you. when people talk about chechnya, militant islam and it wasn't always like that and, really, the dominating factor about chechnya, as far as i can tell, is that for hundreds of years these people have been trying to get free of the russians, right? the chechen struggle for independence goes back to at
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least the middle of the 19th century. >> yes. tollstory wrote some of his stories about the chechen wars of the 19th century. probably for chechens alive today, the most significant and most traumatic historic memory is that the deportation of the chechens. during the war stalin decided they were all traitors and all of them, the entire nation, men, women and children were deported. they were taken out of their homes in chechnya from one day to the next and sent to different parts of asia. that experience of deportation, losing their homeland left many varied and bittered. they were allowed to return home in the ' 50s. >> you reported brilliantly for the times on the chechens. the chechens, once again, as they have several time over the
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last 200 years, tried to break free and declare their independence. the russian army comes in. what are the estimates, as a best as you can tell, of how many chechens the russian army killed over the last 25 years? >> well, if you include russian soldiers and chechen fighters, then somewhere in the region of 100,000 would be a realistic estimate. >> and when you were watching this, did you find that the struggle, the chechen struggle for independence started out as essentially as a nationalist struggle but as the russians killed more and more chechens and as the region got plunged into war, it became more radicalized and became more islamized or was that element always very strong? >> well, i think what happened in chechnya was that resembled in many ways what has happened in other parts of the world, which is that a struggle for independence that began as a ethnic one was colonized by. if you like, islamic forces.
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as in afghanistan before and in other places, they brought with them both their radical theology but also wider agendas that went far beyond chechnya and the leader of the nationalist in chechnya and a good number of his men had fought before with the mujahedeen. that element is there. >> and what is the nature of these societies? are they highly islamized and highly religious? >> historically as anatol said they're not highly islamicized and they're not accustomed to living in, it's not a saudi arabia or afghan style society. women didn't traditionally cover themselves. you still don't see that now. see elements of it and parts of the partisan movement may be like that and so on. although most people in the
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region would be muslims, it would be actually fairly unusual to find most people radical or islamized. even when you see photographs from there you don't see that at all. >> finally, anne, in your "washington post" column, you pointed out that the tsarnaev brothers seem like they didn't fit in and lashed out. what do you think is the lesson you draw from that? what do we do? >> the london and madrid bombers and a number of european terrorism cases have involved people second, third generation immigrants who for whatever reason didn't fit in. weren't happy. didn't feel successful. it could be for many possible reasons and returned home as the elder tsarnaev brother seems to have done and somehow
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reconnected with their homelands which they may not remember and brought some radicalism back to europe. the europeans have tried to deal with this by finding ways to immigrant muslims. we have never had this problem in the united states at least not on a large-scale number or a large-scale sense but the idea you can radicalize by returning to your homeland and becoming anti-western or anti-american we have seeb the pattern before and it would be useful to see what european countries have done with it. >> thank you so much. up next, what in the world. as emerging markets rise you might be thinking that poverty is declining across the world. we did the math and the answers are not encouraging. i'll explain. update on 171 woodward..... let's other people see what's on your screen. and these are the material studies. the dog was my suggestion. aleigh. aleigh! it's great. but i'm on vacation
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the world lives in poverty. that translates to a 4% drop. in 2 billion to 1.2 billion people. but when i dug deeper, i realized the picture is more murky. put simply, most of the reduction in global poverty has to do with one country, china. take it out of the equation and the numbers look very different. let's go back to 1981. back then china accounted for 43% of the world's poor. the other major contributors were south asia with 29% and sub is a heroin africa with 11%. saharan africa with 11%. fast forward a decade and you'll see it began to drop. the trend continues through the 2000s by 2010 china accounted for only 13% of the world's impoverished population. south africa's tripled. the wrltd bank data shows the
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total number of impoverished chinese declined by 680 million people in the last three decades. that's about 95% of the total global decline. by registering double-digit growth for three decades, beijing has transformed the fortunes of a poor nation within a generation. that's amazing but it tells you in the rest of the world progress has been much, much slower, if there's been progress at all. there's a lesson here for other developing countries. take india for example, new delhi has made strides against poverty. the problem is the strides have been only a few steps ahead of population growth. look at the numbers. in 1981, 429 million indians lived in poverty, 60% of the population. by 2010, the percentage of impoverished people dropped to 33% and yet the total number of indians living in poverty was still around 400 million.
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why you see india's population expanded by a half billion. for all the millions lifted out of poverty, millions of others were born in to it. what is the answer? growth. in the 1860s and '70s, india was stuck in a rut of slow growth with a mediocre 2% a year often. then in the 1980s it began to open up and in the '90s new delhi scrapped much of the social assist set of controls and then growth 9% and that helped to create the middle class and reduced the number of people living in poverty. according to the pro-free market cato institute if those reforms had taken place two decades earlier, india would have fewer impoverished people. 175 million fewer. that's why india's drop in economic growth is alarming. those most affected would be the poor.
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africa's also changing, but for its poorest change is still too slow. look at this graph. since 1981, poverty rates have been dropping steadily in the developing world and the woeld as a whole but in sub-saharan africa it got worse in the '80s and '90s. it only recently begun to turn the corner thanks in large part to faster economic growth. global poverty is falling but china deserves most of credit and thanks to the communist party of china we know the path to poverty and alleviation is capitalist-led growth. up next, how technology can detect terrorists and defeat repressive regimes. google's executive chairman, back from north korean and myanmar joins me. [ female announcer ] the only patch for the treatment
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hello, everyone. i'm carol costello with a check on the top stories. the mother of the two boston bombing suspects may have discussed jihad with one of her sons. the u.s. said russia intercepted a conversation between the mother and a man that may have been either dzhokhar or his brother tamerlan tsarnaev.
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the discussion of jihad. washington lawmakers have been weighing in on the boston bombings appearing on "state of the union account with candy crowley, dan coats spoke about the possibility of a larger conspiracy. >> there's always a rush to try to rationalize what in this case was an irrational act and i think you need time not to rush to judgment and sort it out. everyone says as soon as we figure out what happened here, we are safe again. well, we don't live in that kind of world now. we want to learn as much as we can from this. >> after a moment of silence for the victims of the oklahoma city bombings in 1995, 24,000 runners hit the streets for the oklahoma city marathon. security was tight after the boston bombing. several runners who did not finish in boston crossed the finish line in oklahoma city. it's not a job require. but a sense of humor helps if you are a leader of the free world and we will talk about
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president obama's performance at the white house correspondents dinner. gps continues right now. we are piecing together how the alleged boston bombers radicalized themselves over the internet and posted their thoughts on twitter. we watched as the internet disseminated their images within a few minutes beginning the sequence of events that led to their capture. is technology a help or hindrance? i have a great person to answer the question. eric schmitt is the executive chairman of google and he has a new book that explores this and other ideas. it is called the new digital age, reshaping the future of people, nations and business. jarrod cohen has worked previously at the state department and as part of the time 100 i should add. thank you, guys.
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when you watched this boston episode, what did you think about the pow er of technology for the -- the process of self radicalizing on the internet is fascinating where people no longer need a community. they no longer need a leader. they can just find that information out there. >> look, this is aer the able thing in boston. obviously we don't want to have it happen again. there were good digital stories about it, the use of crowd sourcing of the photos. the fact that somebody left a cell phone that was tracked to help find and cause the shootout with the two that killed the one, et cetera. the fact of the matter is people have gotten bad information from books and so forth. now it is more readily available on the internet but overwhelmingly the internet is used for a positive force and to catch these people. >> that's why at the end of the day, you say we can look at the way china monitors the internet or people use the internet for bad reasons, but ultimately it is a hopeful story. >> it is. one way to understand it is we
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are all going through a journey together. the journey goes from relatively connectivity to little knowledge to having everyone in the world be connected. that is overwhelmingly positive for medical care, for education, for safety, for security, for commerce, for global expansion, for trade, for any of the things that we care about. it's overwhelmingly good. it also brings some bad people to the table that we didn't hear from before, and we need to figure out how to an 'tis that and deal with them but overwhelmingly people are good. 99.9% of people in the world are very good. that's the solution. >> but it does connect a lot of network and leverage the power of small groups. you talk about this in the book. how do you detect them? what do you do? >> of course the challenge of violent extremism is it is a very small, albeit loud minority group that occupies the attention of the world. the good news is in the future
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it will be hard to imagine a terrorist being able to operate in the caves of tora bora and be close to relevant. they have the option but the room for technology goes up. they make mistakes and hard to go on the checklist every second of every moment on the run. we interviewed navy s.e.a.l.s and they told us about trying to track a senior al qaeda member in afghanistan they lost track of. he had been careful, throwing away cards, disposing phones quickly. he had a 45-minute kfgs with his cousin in afghanistan about how thrilled he was to be coming to his wedding. next thing you know he is caught. if they make a mistake professionally or socially it is unravelled and you get their sim card and everyone they are working with. >> in the digital world, there are so many ways you interact with people it is hard to escape that digital dragnet if you are a bad person.
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>> now what do we do when the good guys may not be the good guys -- by which i mean the people with the resources like themselves have their own motives, governments like russia, perhaps even china in some areas and of course north korea. you had a celebrated trip to north korea and i have to say the single best feel there is your daughter's blog which we have a link to on our website. what did you draw from in the experience in north korea. >> not all governments are in favor of free and open communication and you can tell now. the ones that allow the internet in, they allow political free speech, the expression of human values and different cultures, those are the countries you want to be part of. if you are stuck in a country that is authoritarian, off problem because the government is not in your interest. in north korea, our objective in going to north korea was to convince them, or at least try to get the idea of opening up a bit. what we found when we were there, aside from a sort of a
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bizarre, a movie set that is the city and the way they all behave was that the core thing that the north koreans don't want to do is allow their citizens to understand that there are other points of view. all right, the whole country is organized around a single belief system. you are taught from birth that this is the way. if the internet shows up, they might say hey, maybe there an alternative way to run our country. maybe my country is not the only choice and the system will unravel from within. >> what about cyberterrorism, cyberattacks. what's going on with china, between the united states and china now, is that the next -- is the internet because it has become so dominant, the fight where we may have our flexion con flirks international conflict? >> there is a fundamental argument that we make in the books that things will be willing to do things in cyberspace they are not willing
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to do in the world. if you look at u.s. and china, it is a complex but they are allies but in cyberspace it is adversarial as possible. at what point is it so significant and severe it warrants a physical response? >> it is worth saying it is not just china. we always focus on china but other countries are engaging in. this we talk act iranian activities. there's evidence that russia is doing it. many people claim that the united states is engaged in some of this. it is not just china and the solution, of course, in america for us to increase our defenses, to harden our systems. >> eric schmitt, jarrod cohen, pleasure to have you on. up next the story of a young man that comes to america, becomes disillusioned and perhaps radicalized. it is a movie out this week.
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resilience. it is also natural to react with fear and sometimes anger. a new movie, a terrific movie explores this theme. the reluctant fundamentalist is set around the defieng event of our times, 9/11. the movie tells the story of a suave young pakistani living in new york. he works for a top american bank and suddenly his life changes after 9/11. he feels profiled and threatened. does he begin to sympathize with the terrorists? is he becoming a fundamentalist? the film features hollywood stars lea shriver and kate hudson. it is a fascinating study of a man caught between america and islam. a topic worth exploring anytime but especially today. i sat down with the film's director. listen in. >> i love the title of the book and the movie "the reluctant fundamentalist." is what drew you to it the sense that this guy is occupying both
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worlds, both america and in some sense the world of iz almost? >> well, my film is based on the wonderful book by the pakistani author who wrote "the reluctant fundamentalist" and the reluck tense is not as we understand it only terror, religion or becoming a fundamentalist and an examination and falling out of love with the economic fundamentalism, the fundamentalism of money or capital. >> but there's a part of the movie where he is, as you say, eagerly embracing america and eagerly embracing wall street and becoming a master of the universe. then 9/11 happens to be out of the country and he flies back and suddenly for the first time he realizes -- and the realization dawns on him slowly, my god, they are not looking at me like every other person.
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they are looking at me differently because i have brown skin and a funny name. >> exactly. >> that's the moment where he realizes i'm not integrally par this society as i thought i was. >> exactly, and perhaps he can never be. i mean, the film is really a made because of that. it's not otherwise. i live in this country for half my life. i come from the subcontinent half of my life, and what is really disturbing to me is how the conversations that we have here about the subcontinental world or anything to do with the islamic world is always a monologue, not a conversation. we never really hear it from that side of things. >> you say when americans look at the world of islam, they don't understand that those are ordinary people. they have their lives. one thing you do try to do in the movie is convey that reality so that you see resemblance.
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family and they're a very kind of normal, upper middle class family that is partly fascinated by america but has reservations. but mostly engaged in the day-to-day life. >> the father is a poet, they used to have money but they don't have money but they have class. but they're not worried about it, but the young man is worried. he wants to go to america and make a fortune and bring his family back to the society that they used to belong to. the father is not concerned. he writes his poems and lives in his world. >> do you think the appeal of fundamentalism is that it is, in some way, a kind of coherent alternative to a western idea of money and success and things like that, that it seems to pull at some other chords that people have? because he says, the hero says
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at one point, you know, that when 9/11 happened i had a flicker of all. even, that people could pull this off. and, you know, what that suggests is that there was some pull there for him. >> i mean, what we are suggesting and what we know is that the world is a really complicated place and looking at and presenting the humanity in both the worlds, as complicatedly as we do. i want to be unflinching about the fact that, you know, the reaction to 9/11 was not always one way. people had different reactions to it. as our hero says, yes, he said a sense of awe at the audacity of this terrible act, but he asked his american friend, he says, don't you feel anything when 100,000 people are killed equally in baghdad or afghanistan or syria or any of the above?
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the terrible thing about what has happened in boston is that boston now has become another city that has been affected by the same terror that is a global suffering. you know, the suffering has been so global and now it has come in front of us and that is what is shocking people and it must shock people. but this terror, this suffering happens in any day in any city in the world. you know, in our part of the world. and that suffering is caused by a cycle of events. i mean, we have to understand that wherever we are, we are simply a part of the world. we are not the center of the world. and i think that's very important -- that led me to make the reluctant fundamentalist. unless we tell our own stories, no one else will tell them. >> very terrific and moving movie. >> thank you. >> pleasure to have you on. >> thank you. up next, why the green back is changing. ♪
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in january. it got me wondering whether that was higher or lower than the highest unemployment rate recorded in the united states during the great depression. which is my question of the week. what was the peak unemployment rate in the u.s. during the great depression? a, 15%. b, 21%, c, 25%, or d, 34%. stay tuned, we'll tell you the correct answer. go to cnn.com/fareed for more of the gps challenge and lots of insight and analysis. you can also follow us on twitter and facebook. remember, you can go to itunes.com/fareed if you ever miss a show or a special. this week's book of the week is "the new digital age, reshaping the future of people, nations, and business." it's by eric schmidt and jared cohen, google's director of ideas, who are on the show. the book is a masterful tour of all the issues that are raised by the dominant technological trend of our time, which is the
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information revolution. it's a must-read for anyone who wants to understand the new world. now for the last look. take your first look at the new $100 bill. when the government released a sneak peek this week, critics in america were less than thrilled about the new franklin. it seems americans like their greenbacks green. and many were taken aback by the shades of purple and orange, but perhaps ben franklin's more important constituency today is overseas. after all, almost two thirds of all $100 bills circulate overseas, not stateside. and perhaps that's fitting for a bill that's strewn with images of a man who lived and loved the ex'pat life, first in london, and then in paris to represent the young united states. i have to wonder, though, what franklin on printer would make of the high-tech anticounterfeiting measures that
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are meant to stop people from printing his image. the correct answer to our gps challenge question was c. in 1933, the u.s. unemployment rate peaked at 25%. that's an annual rate for all of 1933. thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week. i'll see you next week. hello, i'm carol costello with cnn special cover. i'm live in boston, standing in the midst of the spontaneous memorial. if you want to get a sense of community, of hope in america, you should come to boston because take a look at all these people. this is the makeshift memorial right here, but the line to get in snakes all around the corner. take a look at all of those people waiting to get in to place flowers at this makeshift memorial, to write messages to those who were injured or lost in the bombings. just amazing.
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