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call 1-888-xarelto or visit goxarelto.com. hello, i'm carol costello. thanks for joining us this afternoon. this is cnn's special edition coming to you from boston. look around me. i'm standing in copley square in the midst of this make shift memorial. look at all the people still coming through here. it is just amazing. hundred and hundreds of peopl coming to look at this wonderful display. obviously runners have left their shoes. don't know if actual boston marathon but on many of the shoes you can see "boston." so i'm assuming this person ran in the boston marathon then left the shoes as a memorial. everyone has a theme. i'll read some.
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strength. hope. love you, boston. this one, god boston. love erin kristin, katherine and john. god bless boston. stay strong. that's pretty from the messages you read here. it's "we love you," in our hearts," "we cried for you about you now we're only hopeful because boston will bounce back." i want you to see the number of people here. it is just so amazing. take a look at crowds of people. they're coming from all over the east coast just to take a look at this make shift memorial that where. we're going to be talking to people a little bit later to ask them why they feel it is so important to come here today on this beautiful day in boston and remember a tragedy. first we want to talk about the investigation because there are some new developments some new leads. susan candiotti is in devens massachusetts where the federal prison is where the youngest suspect is now being held. bring us up to date.
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>> reporter: hi carol. as you said there are so many aspects of this investigation that are going on. but there's considerable debate now about the disclosure that the russians had been wiretapping the mother of the bombing suspects. at least we know of in early 2011. this information coming to light only in the last 24 hours or so that the russians were wiretapping the bombing suspect's mother and ourll us -- sources who have knowledge of this investigation -- that the wiretap involved a phone call from one of the bombing suspects. we don't know which brother. to his mother who was in russia at the time in early 2011 and that the subject was about jihad. now sources describe this conversation as being vague, but nevertheless the russians did not disclose it to the fbi until, well within the last few
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days. so everyone is wondering why is that? it makes one wonder what was theinvestigation, how long had the russians been wiretapping, eavesdropping on this mother. why were they leaves dropping on her, and why are we only learning about this now? carol, that's one of the things we're discussing this day. >> so many still unanswered questions. susan, you are outside that prison. that's where this youngest suspect is being held. is there any update on his condition? >> no we don't know about his condition. the prison here is not announcing that. they are saying it is up to the fbi which has no information for us at this time. we do know this -- the prison spokesman did tell us that the suspect in this case dzhokhar tsarnaev talking with the people who are taking care of him. however, no one is telling us whether he has had any visits from his lawyer or from investigators, for that matter. now we're simply waiting to see what will happen next. for example, we know he is
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charged. the question is when might he be indicted by a federal grand jury. perhaps that could happen as early as this week. carol? >> i'm sure you'll be standing by. we'll see. harsh words today for attorney general eric holder and his handling of the boston bombing suspect. athena jones joins us from the white house. >> reporter: the issue here is the timing from when this suspect was read his miranda warnings when he was advised he has the right to remain silent and the right to a lawyer. that happened on monday and there are a lot of members of congress many of them republicans, who say they should have waited longer they could have don't more information from this suspect had they waited to read him those rights and that now we might not get answers to many many questions like how they were radicalized, if anyone else was involved in this. so eric holder made his first comments to our own brianna keilar last night when she had had a chance to ask him about this whole debate about the
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timing of the reading of those miranda rights. let's listen to what he had to say. >> the decision to mirandize him is one that the magistrate made anotally consistent with the laws that we have. we had a two-day period t under the public safety exception so i think everything was done appropriately and we got good leads. >> so that was the attorney general answering some questions on this for the first time. but i can tell that you republicans aren't satisfied with this. we heard from republican peter king who responded to holder's remarks. let's listen to that. >> eric holder now said he approved that interrogation being stopped? that's absolutely disgraceful because that interrogation could have ended up saving american lives. we don't know who else was involved who was involved then who could be involved in the future. we may not know because of eric holder. >> you heard peter king not happy. this debate will not end. even though those rights were already read it was already a done deal. still people are asking
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questions, for instance house intelligence committee chairman mike rogers sent a letter to the justice department demanding answers to a long list of questions about how this decision was made to this subject. the story's definitely not over here. carol? >> all right, athena jones reporting live from washington this afternoon. nearly two weeks after the bomb blast, dozens of people are still in the hospital. 28 victims remain in boston fewer than yesterday though. one patient is in critical condition. the largest number of patients remains at brigham and women's hospital. nine people being treat there had. so many people have come to downtown boston today to pay their respects to the bombing victims. while we mourn those who died an remember those who were hurt there is a sense of healing and hope an defiance. bostonians refuse to cower in the face of terror. mary beth came down here to take a look at memorial. thanks for talking to me. are you from boston? >> yes, cambridge. >> is this a normal day in
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copley square? >> a little more people though it is usually business. >> i couldn't believe earlier the number of people here. there was a line around the block of people waiting to go through this memorial. >> i think a lot of of people want to be here an feel what's going on and be with everybody else. >> why did you decide to come and take a look at memorial today? >> some friends and i came down for a song for peace concert here at trinity church. it was a beautiful group of folk singers. >> have you wandered through yet? >> yes, i did. >> what struck you as you wandered through? >> i think just seeing all the different thoughts and prayers that people send in their own ways from shoes to flags to just little statements. >> floirswers teddy bears, older people younger people children. it is amazing to me. there's sort of a theme to the messages, i think. it is -- the theme is we love you, boston. be strong because we're there
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for you. >> right. i think a lot of people feel that and just want to have a way of saying it and just feeling together. marathon day is pretty big in boston. it's just an amazing energy and for events to happen on that day, it touches people deeply. >> well it's interesting. as i go by and talk w people. sometimes when i'm live on the air people want to stand beside me and chant "boston st they're eager to talk. that's unusual. usually people don't want to talk to the media, they certainly don't want to be on camera. they just seem eager to it. why do you think that is? >> i think people are just right now it is about being strong and pulling together and finding support in one another because it is hard to understand and put a this. i think just kind of chanting that "boston strong" helps you feel it and then bring it to everybody else. >> it is nice to be in the midst of an america where people care
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about one another. >> yeah it is. boston doesn't always have the reputation after warm and friendly place. think -- i hope people see it in a different light. >> i'm sure they do. mary beth thank you so much for talking with me. i so appreciate it. >> thank you so much. when we come back in the "newsroom," last night the white house correspondents dinner took place. president obama took the stage but he also took tim responders who rushed in to help. we'll look at what else he said ahead and we'll run some his jokes by you, too.
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his politics the president proved he can deliver a one-liner. after his performance at the white house correspondents kinner mr. obama earned a new title -- comedian in chief. here's a sampling. >> the problem is that the media landscape is changing so rapidly. yo can't keep up with it. ieóean when buzz feed was just something i did in college around 2:00 a.m. it's true.i; recently though i found a new favorite source for political news. these guys are gret. i think everybody here should check it out. they tell it like it is. called whitehouse.gov.
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i can not get enough of it. fact is i really do respect the press. i recognize that the press and i have different jobs to do. my job is to be president, your job is to keep me humble. frankly, i think i'm doing my job part of the problem is everybody is so cynical. i mean we're con feeding cynicism suspicion, conspiracies. you remember a few months ago, my administration put out a photograph of me going skeet remember that? and quite a number of people insisted that this had been photo shopped. but tonight i have something to confess. you were right. guys can we show them the actual photo?
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we were just to tone players in the media lan like super pacs. you know that sheldon aidleson pent $100 million of his own money last year on negative ads? you've got to really dislike me to spend that kind of money. i mean that's oprah money. you could buy an island and call it nobama, for that kind of money. sheldon would have been better off offering me $100 million to drop out of the race.
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i probably wouldn't have taken it, but i thought about it. michelle would have taken it. you think i'm joking. i know republicans are still sorting out what happened in 2012. but one thing they all agree on is they need to do a better job reaching out to minorities. and look. call me self-centered, but i can think of one minority they could start with. hello! think of me as a trial run. you know? see how it goes.
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if they won't come to me i will come to them. recently i had dinner. it's been well publicized. i had dinner with a number of republican senators i'll admit, it wasn't easy. i proposed a toast. it died in committee. of course even after i've done all this some folk still don't think i spend enough time with congress. why don't you get a drink with mitch mcconnell they ask? really? why don't you get a drink with mitch mcconnell? >> you have to admit, that was funny. of course there is another side to the white house correspondents dinner as well. that would be the social side. washington power players mixed with the hollywood elite. we'll talk about that when we come back. [ male announcer ] who loves social
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i thought this looked pretty good. >> i think that was my favorite part. white house correspondents dinner is the place are where washington's elite mixes with hollywood a-listers. it shows us a side of life in the capitol we don't often see, the social side a side with a sense of humor. a woman who really knows d.c.'s social scene, amy writes a column for "the washington post." hi amy. >> hello. >> i take it you were there last flight. tell me what the red carpet was like. avoid the red carpet. if you're a real washingtonian, you just avoidscene. the red carpet is for the tourists and for the stars. fur a regular washingtonian going to dinner you scoot around that. no one wants to see you walk around that and neither do you
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want to be in the mob of people who are watching it. if you can get a ticket to the dinner you'll have a chance to see these stars up close, you don't want to mingle with them on the red carpet. wait until they are hovering over their bread plate until you approach them. >> i don't know if i agree with to hollywood royalty as much as possible. but the blic doesn't get to see that part of the correspondents own parties and they're full of journalists and such having lots of fun. so what was the -- what was the party to be at last night? >> well it's tricky. "vanity fair" an bloomberg co-host a party that has become such a coveted ticket. it is impossible to get in. if you can get in as a reporter does to cover it you will find no one you know there because everyone is absolutely a-list. it is nothing but brand name washington heavy hitters and movie stars. they are all there. that party is so impossible to get into -- >> come on give us some dirt
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from that party! we want dirt! >> you know hot star of that party was? it was rg3. robert griffin iii, the redskins quarterback. my colleague roxanne wasalking to gerard butler scottish movie star. she was trying to get a conversation going with him. he looks over her shoulder goes who's that? she goes rg3. he bolts from her. everyone's completely star struck by rg3. he didn't even go to the dinner he skipped the dinner an went straight to the after-parties. >> oh my gosh! i would have loved to see rg3. that woulde year. it made a lot of people's years. all the a-listers were lining up to see him. okay for some reason i'm obsessed with the duck dynasty cast because they were also at the dinner. did they show up at any after parties? >> yes, what was funny aboutck dynasty people you mention to some people duck d they lose their minds, they are so
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excited. others have no idea what you are talking about. there they were at the msnbc party. everyone i knew was sort of poking around saying who's the guy in the plaid shirt and bandana who's smoking in the corner. and like there's aéc whole world of people who don't know. they're all googling. finally they're thinking back yeah, didn't conan make a joke about "duck dynasty?" then they want to get a photo with him even though they didn't know hoe was. but they seem to be having a good time. >> thanks for the scoop. we enjoyed it. we'll be right back with more from boston. stick around. we've reduced taxes and lowered costs to save businesses more than two billion dollars to grow jobs cut the lowest rate in sixty years and we're creating tax free zones for business startups. the new new york is working creating tens of thousands of new businesses, and we're just getting started. to grow or start your business
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welcome back to? thegs edition of "newsroom." i'm carol costello live in boston. lots and lots of people took to the streets this morning for the oklahoma city marathon. >> we ask you now for 168 seconds of silence, please. >> very touching. the race started after a moment of silence for the victims of the oak city bombings in 1995. of course security was really tight after the attacks here in boston. many runners wore t-shirts though and red socks to show support for the victims and some of those who did not get to finish the race in boston did cross the finish line in oklahoma city. for some a big event like another marathon is a way to
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heal after boston but for others it can be terrifying. how do we stay safe at these special events when thousands pack into cities. has more. >> reporter: almost two weeks since the boston bombings a new gallup poll reports half of americans believe a terrorist attack on the united states could be imminent. 40% worry than a family member will be a victim of an attack with the anxiety of another attack still fresh in the minds of many americans, exactly how security might change at major u.s. events is as relevant a question as ever. and while total security cannot be guaranteed especially in large crowds experts say the risk of an attack can certainly be reduced. >> it's all about risk management. >> as the director of the national center for spectator sports safety and security since lou marciani has trained thousands of first responders and universities to increase sports security and awareness. for him, the boston marathon bombings was a lesson learned in
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preparedness. >> we work so hard in this country. to harden stadiums and arenas so people look at maybe softer targets and if you look at access events like mayor thonsrathons, cycling, et cetera it is hard to maintain a level of security. >> reporter: as tens of thousands peep for this weekend's new orleans jazz festival and next week jend'send's kentucky derby, making crowds feel safe post-boston may be the biggest challenge. nick valencia at these big open events it is going to be tough to make sure that everything's secure. is there any changes we should expect to see to make things safer at stadiums let's say? >> according to marciani who we featured in that report, he anticipates a tighter perimeter starts and finishes of races and mayorrathons across the
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united states.be a conversation very soon about how to better screen backpacks at these events. >> nick valencia live for us this afternoon. thousands of bostonians have come downtown to reclaim their home. volume of the people is a statement of pride and defiance. everywhere you look signs of hope as the heart of of this beautiful city comes back to life. with me now is a man who did something kind of crazy but beautiful at the same time his name is dennis. he's right here. tell us what you did today, dennis. >> well 13 days ago i was doing the marathon. i was got to the top. of heartbreak hill and that's when all -- broke out. obviously the race stopped for me. i was watching big poppy on tv and the red sox game and he used some colorful language about these terrorists. i said they're not going to stop me i'm going to go do it again.
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first i was goi i left off. i said no wished do the whole thing again. so i started in hoffington and here i am. >> oh man. >> that is insane! that is awesome. so as you w ere walking, 26.2 miles -- >> i had my ribbon and i kept looking at it and i said another mile. another mile. boston strong. >> what kinds of thoughts were going through your head?e there on that terrible day. are you walking on this beautiful, wonderful, glorious gorgeous days in boston. >> one thing going through my mind was not to trip. look where you're going. or don't get hit by a car or something like that but actually i was waiting to get here so i could see carol. >> oh i do. when you look at t spontaneous memorial >> actually i haven't even gotten there yet.
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i came over here and saw you and you said to stay around. right after i'm finished here that's one of the reasons i wanted to come down. there was a small memorial at the start line, too. it doesn't compare with this but it is very meaningful. >> a lot of runners left their shoes apparently from the boston marathon. just in honor of those injured and those killed. tell us about the runningr community and what draws runners together. >> it's just about our life. they feel the same way about things and we're doing the best we can. its -- i wouldn't say it is a small community. it is a big community but small. wonderful people in it. >> certainly what's been illustrated -- >> my sons are on. it's great. >> well boston strong and congratulations for you and thank you for sticking around.
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i appreciate it. oh give me thank you, dennis. oh that awesome. we're going to talk much more about what's happening here in boston because as you can see, i'm telling you, the city is coming back to life. i don't think it actually -- i don't think it actually ever died. i think boston strong. we'll be back in just a minute. i'm speechless.
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the father of the bostony bombing suspect says he's hospitalized in russia with an give any details exactly what that illness is but he says he will force him to postpone his trip to the united states indefinitely. he planned to fly to massachusetts to meet with his son dzhokhar who's now in a federal prison and also to bury his older son, ham lan. as the investigation into the bombings goes on we're learning about a communication between the suspected bomber's mother and someone russian authorities think may have been one of her sons. guess what they discussed? jihad. >> reporter: cnn has been told russian authorities intercepted a communication between the bombing suspect's mother and one of her sons that's one of the suspects in which they were said to be nformation comes from a u.s. official not russian authorities, and he says this
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recording was made in 2011 but only made available to u.s. officials within the last few days. the reason for the delay is not known. it is known that back in 2011 russian authorities asked the fbi to investigate tamerlan tsarnaev and his mother because they were concerned he was becoming radicalized. the fbi investigated asked some questions, interviewed them both and could find no evidence to suggest they were in any way a threat. they say they reported back to the russians asked more questions, asked for more information but never heard anything back. now we know this piece of information from roughly the same time frame did exist. it is difficult to determine the precise significance of this information but it raises some interesting questions. such as would the fbi investigation have been handled differently? could its outcome have been different had the investigators known about this intercepted communication at the time? no one within the russian government has commented specifically on just what the russians an their security services knew in 2011 when they
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were bothered with tamerlan tsarnaev. only the russian president vladimir putin has said to his greatest regret russian security services were not able to provide any information to their american colleagues of operational significance. carol. >> that's phil black. investigators are also concerned about a man who they think may vin fluns vin fluns have inviewsed tamerlan named misha. >> when misha visited us he just kind of opened our eyes really wide about islam. he was really -- he's devoted and he's a verygood man. >> let's bring in our cnn national security analyst julia kichlt kiam to talk about this. talk about strange, new developments frightening new
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developments. so the russians we finally find out have recorded this secret conversation between the mother and maybe one of the sons and they mention the word jihad but they didn't tell authorities here in the united states until now. >> two take-aways. first, jihad means a lot of things 37 we're sort of curious in what context wassaid. it sounds lik russians nervous enough. but this piece of information that's come out in the isreally what starts to make u.s. intelligence agencies seem more consistent. we kept thinking what was up with the fbi? why didn't they follohe russians essentially said here is a name and we're a little bit worried. well that happens a lot actually. not just with the russians. lots of countries. if the russians had more it would have triggered some of the more intensive intrusive surveillance that the fbi actually just never got to. the older brother never got from the environmental watch list
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into a higher one. this starts to put the pieces together what happened. >> phil is juliet right? does this excuse the fbi for not further investigating these two brothers? >> we want answers too fast. in these kinds of investigations you'll find facts that unrule themselves over weeks or months. people are going to want to put e box with a bow on it say we have foreign extremists the word jihad was used we should have resolved this more kwik lyquickly. there are a lot of extremists in this country. free speech allows yalk openly. i don't see anything that tells me if we were told about this we could have furthered this investigation substantially. >> let's talk about the mother herself. if i were an investigator i sure wod want to have access to this mother to ask her questions. will russia grant the united states that right? >> they probably will if that's not already occurring. there is a huge credibility
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issue with all the family members. so one of the reasons why we shou lot of what they're saying with a grain of salt is because there's obviously family dynamics that came in tosons everyone else. this misha character, i was saying to someone last night, every mother who has two killer sons has a misha. right? in other words, she's trying to find another reason for why her sons would be responsible for this. that may be but maybe not credible. >> but still, i mean if the mother was having a conversation with someone and she mentioned the word jihad, might that mean that she had something to do with this bombing, too, phil? >> maybe. but if i had to place a bet i'd say no. there is a big between ideas and action. family members in the cases that i saw over the courts of decades might know their son's gn] there's someone new in saying she knew there was
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conspiracy leading to the loss of life in boston. lots of parents are aware of uncomfortable situations their kids are involved in. that doesn't mean they know this type of thing is under foot. >> what's your sense as to why these two young men did ts are they really par larger organizat for sure now? >> no i don't. i think it is very important that we sort of reserve judgment because i do think there's two different plausible scenarios. one is that that six months in russia the older brother met with people to plan an attack or he just became radicalized more disinfranchised from society and community and then planned something with his brother. i'm not convinc -- i don't know where either story line is but i do think that this idea that we have the solution about the watch list or sharing information. you heard a lot from congressional folks this morning about we need to fix this. it is not clear to me exactly what we need to fix yet. i know people are impatient you but these things come out in
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time. >> thank you both so much for enlightening us today. we'll have more on the alleged radicalization of the suspects after a quick break. stay with us. we'll be right back in boston. [ male announcer ] progress isn't about where you've been. ♪ ♪ it's about where you're going. the new ram 1500. best-in-class 25 mpg. ♪ ♪ north american truck of the year. ♪ ♪ the truck of texas. better residual value than ford and chevy.it's the fastest-growing truck brand in america. guts. glory. ram. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ female announcer ] nothing gets you going quite like the power of quaker oats. today is going to be epic. quaker up.
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with angie's list, i save time money, and i avoid frustration. you'll find reviews on home repair to healthcare written by people just like you. you want to be sure the money you're about to spend is money well spent. angie's list -- reviews you can trust. let's go back to our discussion about the boston bombings and when and how the bomber tamerlan tsarnaev may have been radicalized.
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welcome to you both once again. phil i want to ask you the relationship between the united states and the russians. do they have a g can work togetherively to try and solve the why of this case? >> they do but you've got to assume to be blunt, it is going to be the kgb in russia. we as the u.s. spend as much time chasing the russians as we do talking to them. there is cooperation on terrorism. but to suggest there is not a testiness to the relationship would simply be misleading. >> but the russians have a lot to gain from cooperating with the united states it? >> put the case in the context -- sorry, phil. go ahead. >> i was just going to say absolutely they do. very have an interest in having us follow chechens across the united states because chechen is
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a big problem for them. we are coming fraught an environment where even after 9/11 they expanded their presence in the united states and we can't look at this case and say hey, everything they tell us is something we have to follow up on. we have to grain of salt. >> you were saying? >> i totally agree with phil that -- russia is a complicated ally. this is what you have to put this case in the context of all sorts of other relationships we have with russia including what is going on in syria right now. and iran and -- this is a piece of a complicated relationship with a country that has a president who is let's say, also complicated. if i can say that. joining us. we appreciate it this afternoon. thank you. much more on the investigation and also the outpouring of support for the bombing victims here in boston's copley square. it has been truly amazing.
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before we continue to talk about the wonderful people that have come down to copley square to pay homage to the victims of the boston marathon we are going the take a look at week ahead. katherine jackson and the children are suing aeg live. lawsuit claims the company was negligent in hiring dr. conrad murray to care for jackson. last week murray appealed his involuntary manslaughter conviction in jackson's death. on tuesday, we get the latest consumer confidence report and it will give as you sense of whether people are feeling optimistic or pessimistic about the economy. on wednesday, the george w. bush presidential library officially opens to the public. the library was dedicated last week. on thursday closing arguments are expected to begin in the jodi arias trial.aid almost
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$1.7 million for defense of the case. arias claims she killed her ex-boyfriend in self-defense. on provide, gun owners get ready to lock and load. the nra's annual three-day meeting begins in houston, texas. one of the big events the stand and fight rally on saturday. a look at the week ahead. carol costello live in boston copley square. wonderful memorial honoring the vi marathon. much more from boston when we come back. stay with us.
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. i'm carol costello live in boston. with me is don lemon who will take over in 45 seconds. wanted to chat about what i have seen today. it has been amazing. the mum of people who have come down here to this makeshift memorial. >> right. >> just to leave flowers or prayer. cry a tear and say boston strong. >> i have to say, heartening to see all of this and having been here a week ago when it happened different mood in the city. when i came he the city earlier today, wow, is this is same boston i left three, four days ago? the city -- just taking a monumental steps to get back to normal. as you have been watching people have been saying all day,know that phrase they say. since i got off the plane, i have been hearing that all the way to the hotel. now to this memorial. >> mayor of boston very much wants it to be that way. yesterday was preparking. no tickets.
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police officers, we can't ticket you. you park anywhere you want. we want you to go into a store and restaurant and spend at least $25 to help business people get back up to speed since had lost so much money. >> they lost a lot of money. we are going to talk to business owners to see how they are recovering from that. they will be back. some are and some aren't. thank you, carol. thank you. >> see you later. >> good to see you. have a good one.9 hello. thank you for joining us. top of the hour. i'm don lemon. you are in the "cnn newsroom" live this evening from boston. here is the latest the boston bombing investigation. responding to news a russian wiretap intercept ad communication of the bombing suspect's mother discussing jihad with someone who may have been one of her sons. why did russia wait until a few day ace go to turn over that information? would the fbi have done more if it had that information sooner? our experts fwhaeg on that. the only man that knows a motive behind thees keeping his mouth
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