what if we could take pieces of all of these and put them together. have a bonfire, go crazy, celebrate your labor, culture, country, all twubs at once. it would be the perfect day. we want to know if you celebrate may day and if so, how do you do it. twitter at erin burnett or cnn. anderson starts now. erin, thanks. good evening, everyone. tonight exclusive video of new suspects being taken into custody in connection with the boston bombing. sound and pictures of the raid itself by s.w.a.t. team members. and new details of what authorities said the suspects did to help their friend, the surviving alleged bomber. that and a phone conversation the feds say the dead suspect's widow had with him after the bombing. the question is, did she try to tip him off. will it make her suspect number six. and tonight you'll meet the woman who lost her mom at sandy hook elementary. now she is confronting lawmakers who say yes, they care deeply about what happened but voted no on tougher gun laws. and later, what made this jumbo jet fall to earth? the video is hard to watch.

it is incredible. and what can a pilot actually do when the plane stalls on takeoff? we'll ask a pro to take us inside the cockpit when things go terribly wrong. we begin with everything new we have been learning in the last few hours about the bombing investigation, and there is a lot to bring up to date on. it all follows the charges and the court appearance today of three new suspects. friends of the surviving bomber, dzhokhar tsarnaev. two charged with destructing evidence. the third, a friend from cambridge charged with lying to authorities. according to court documents, one texted tsarnaev after released pictures telling him, quote, he looked like the suspect on television. lol, dzhokhar responded. then later, quote, come to my room and take whatever you want. and authorities say he and the other two did just that. what they found and what they allegedly did next is potentially very incriminating to themselves, as well as their

friend, dzhokhar. there is so much more we have been learning since their arrest just today. susan candiotti, and joe johns from the court documents. drew griffin on specific items the friends discovered in tsarnaev's room. and gloria borger on the phone, conversations between the widow and her husband after the bombing. a lot. we want to go through it carefully, step by step. first, susan candiotti, this exclusive new video of when s.w.a.t. team came to arrest the two students, this was on the 19th, correct? >> reporter: that's right. it was on the 19th and this neighborhood didn't know what to think. over my shoulder is the apartment that was raided. that's where the s.w.a.t. team came down the street here, barreling in with several teams, armored trucks, everyone armed to the hilt. and, of course, people started running and getting their iphones and their smartphones to take pictures of what was going on. i talked with a neighbor who showed us what he had.

>> oh, my god, do you think it's him? >> shhh! >> put your hands up and no one will get hurt. >> everybody stay here, okay? do not move. >> dzhokhar tsarnaev, come out. >> do not stand up. >> dzhokhar tsarnaev, you will be arrested now. come out with your hands up and elevate your hands. >> so susan, they believe that dzhokhar tsarnaev was in that house. he was not in that house, though, obviously, and the two kazack students were, correct? >> reporter: that's right. and neighbors here said they had seen dzhokhar here and sometimes the older brother here on occasion, too. and they saw them come out, the students, put in handcuffs, put in their skivvies, some of them, questioned, saying no, no, no.

and they then took them away for the initial questioning. and then, remember, they were picked up, released and then picked up again and held on immigration charges, violations of their student visa. >> i just want to see that video again, because at first it's hard, because the people taking the video are obviously talking. but you can clearly hear authorities say dzhokhar tsarnaev come out with your hands up. let's watch. >> oh, my god, do you think it's him? >> shhh! >> put your hands up and no one will get hurt. >> everybody stay there, okay? do not move. >> dzhokhar tsarnaev, come out. >> do not stand up. it's okay, it's okay. >> susan, why did they believe he was in that house? do we know? >> reporter: well, we do know this, that within hours after those videos were initially released by the fbi asking everyone to be on the lookout for them, we know from the criminal complaint that immediately the people in this house started to get nervous.

the roommates, the friends, the students. and we know that within literally three hours or so, a few hours of those videos coming out, that on the facebook page of one of the students who lived here, deas ckadyrbayev, and according to sources deborah feyerick, both changed their facebook photos, dzhokhar making his photograph black and white and the other student changing his to a photograph of him wearing an iron man mask. why they did all this, you know, you can answer yourself, come up with your own reasons. but clearly, these were actions of people, at least of dzhokhar, of someone on the run. and now we know more, according to federal complaint, what the students were trying to do to ditch evidence in this case. >> okay. susan, appreciate that. want to move on to the criminal complaint joe johns has been

following. that angle early in the investigation, joe, reports that dzhokhar tsarnaev only found out about the bomb plot a couple weeks before the bombing occurred. what we see in court papers, though, seems to contradict that, correct? >> that's true, anderson. the affidavit essentially says the two men from kazakhstan got a hint, at least, of what was to come, probably several weeks before it all actually happened. if you just look at what we have up on the screen. essentially, it said that tsarnaev told the two men from kazakhstan a month before the marathon that he knew how to make a bomb. so if that's true, obviously it wasn't two weeks, it was more like a full month all the way back into march, anderson. >> so that information, that's not coming from tsarnaev himself. that's coming from one of these kazak guys. >> that's right, coming from one of the two guys from kazakhstan. >> and the attorneys for the men

said they didn't know what they were doing. it's apparent, they were aware their friend was in trouble. >> reporter: that's true. and there are several references in the papers to the idea that these men knew something was up, once the pictures of the bombing suspects were released by the fbi. the affidavit says phillipos, the third suspect, stated that once at the apartment, he kadyrbayev and taz could have started to freak out because they were aware one was the boston bombers. that was important because the government wants to show these guys are charged with an attempted coverup and statements like that suggest they at least knew what the stakes were. >> and what they're alleging is that one of them texted dzhokhar saying you look like the bomber and dzhokhar said lol, and then he said come over and take whatever you want. and they actually did.

>>. >> reporter: and they absolutely apparently did, according to the fbi. they did go over and took several items out of his apartment that would include a backpack, some vaseline, it included a laptop. and the authorities essentially are saying, look, you know, put two and two together and it equals four, anderson. >> and is that the backpack -- have authorities found that backpack? >> they have found that backpack, and it had some fireworks that actually had some of the insides of those fireworks apparently taken out. so that certainly is important evidence for them. >> okay. joe johns, appreciate it. drew griffin has been following one of the more puzzling citations. as joe mentioned, they removed a jar of vaseline from dzhokhar's dorm room. why would they do that? >> well, the vaseline is an interesting ingredient in terms of making bomb. you would use vaseline to prevent any kind of friction from taking place, which could spark powder. you basically would use this as

a insulator between metal and in this case, perhaps, the inside powder found in a fire work. so that's very specific to bomb-making. and anderson, i think that's telling in two different ways. number one, it tells you that dzhokhar, not just his older dead brother, but dzhokhar, had some kind of proficiency in at least knowing how to put together bombs. and number two, it let's you know that at least one of these students arrested today knew that. because let's face it. you get rid of the computer, you get rid of a backpack with empty fireworks inside. why would you then go and reach for a jar of vaseline, unless you knew specifically that vaseline was used in the process of making some kind of improvised explosive device. >> drew -- we may not know this. from this affidavit, from this court document, do we know that dzhokhar said to them not only go over and take whatever you want, but please get rid of my

computer, please get rid of the bag of fireworks and this vaseline? >> we don't know that. what we do know, one of the students, dias taz die taz die calf made sure they got the videos lien, as well. and that's why it's telling, because it wasn't common to me to know that videos lien was used in the creation of a device. apparently it was to one of these students. >> we talked about this in the last two weeks or so that bomb makers have specific signatures and can often track down where maybe someone learned how to make a bomb. any other cases of terrorism in the united states in which vaseline has been used as a component? >> we do. najibullah zazi, the al qaeda plot to blow up subways, during

testimony in his case, one of his co conspirators was talking about how they were learning to make bombs at an al qaeda training camp and over in pakistan and had a list of ingredients. and one of the ingredients was vaseline. so we do know that it has been brought up, at least at one al qaeda camp. there are some references to it online. not widely known. and certainly not widely known how or why you would use that vaseline. so it is very specific information. >> also, drew, do we know, have they actually found the laptop? because i know they were searching that landfill and we believe that was one of the items they were searching for. joe said they found the backpack at the landfill. >> yeah, the prosecutors actually released, i believe, a photo of the backpack with the empty fireworks inside. but missing from that was whether or not they actually did find the laptop computer. they may have found that computer and just don't want to let us know that. or maybe they just weren't able to find it. >> okay.

a lot just happened in the last couple hours. drew, appreciate the reporting, as well. let us know what you think about the latest on the investigation. follow me on twitter at anderson cooper. coming up next, kblor i can't borger on the phone conversation we learned she had with her husband just as his picture was being beamed around the world and a manhunt was heating up. what did she say to him? that is critical. later, the possible facts behind the photos that american jumbo jet falling out of the sky, crashing. bagram air base in afghanistan. we'll ask a pilot what could have gone wrong and how investigators will try to solve the mystery.

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will get hurt. >> everybody stay there, okay? do not move. >> dzhokhar tsarnaev. come out. >> do not stand up. it's okay, it's okay. >> dzhokhar tsarnaev, you will be arrested now. come out with your hands up and elevate your hands. >> also cnn's ashleigh banfield has gotten ahold of a pair of photos of dzhokhar tsarnaev and one of the three new suspects charged today, robel phillipos and class pictures from the school they attended back in cambridge. this is a close-up of phillipos. we don't know whether they were friends at the time, only they had friends in common. mean time, federal officials say that investigators are very interested in talking with t tamerl tamerlan's tsarnaev's widow, katherine russell. in talking with the widow, these are new photos, booking photos, mug shots from her arrest on shoplifting charges back in

2007. she is not, however, in custody now, as you know. nor has she been charged with anything yet. authorities want to know a lot from her, including a phone call we learned about she had with tamerlan shortly after the bombing. gloria borger has more on that. what do we know about this phone call? >> well, my colleague, deborah feyerick and i are reporting that she folk with her husband, tamerlan, after these pictures were plastered all over national television. what we don't know, anderson, is the exact nature of that conversation. my sources are not clear whether they spoke because she was horrified at what she saw, she was questioning whether this was, in fact, tamerlan, or whether she was tipping him off. what they do express some concern about is that she spoke with him, but apparently did not speak with law enforcement. now, that's not a crime, from a legal standpoint, from a moral standpoint, you might think it was. and, you know, she remains a

very, very murky person here. there is no clear picture of who she is and what she actually knows about all of this. >> now, her attorneys days ago -- i think last week said she is doing all she can to cooperate. which sounded like lawyer speak. you would think that sounds like she is cooperating, doing interviews with the fbi. but to our knowledge, has she sat down and done interviews with the fbi? >> well, we believe they have gotten some dna from her. we're not clear about the extent of her conversations. there was a report in the "new york times" today she had been talking. but that she is, in fact, clamming up. and there's also, you know, different reads on her. i've spoken with a couple of law enforcement officials, you know, one of whom says you've got to really look closely at her, because we need to know what she knew, for example, about his trip to russia. we need to know what she knows about his affiliations, and it's hard to believe she didn't know anything. then i spoke with another law enforcement source who said to

me, you know what, she was the bread winner in the family. she worked very long weeks. she wasn't with him all the time. and she had a young child. and there's a possibility that he was doing things that she didn't know about. but, i you know, bottom line, anderson, she is a very, very important person to them. and they need to get as much information from her in any way they can. >> what i don't understand, though, i mean, if -- you know, he's married to her. he leaves her for six months with a newborn baby, and she doesn't have any thoughts about what he's doing over there? >> right. i mean, you're asking the same questions law enforcement is asking. i mean, he leaves for six months, what does she know about the people he was meeting with. what was the story he gave her about why he was going there. >> and also, if -- you know, there was a blog posting from a woman who used to get facials in their home, and reported that the mother was spouting all sorts of 9/11 conspiracy theories that the government was behind it.

she said that tamerlan had heard this stuff on the internet so certainly the wife must have heard these theories, as well, and can certainly shed light on whatever evolution and character her husband underwent. >> and also what did she know about her mother-in-law, who is somebody they're very interested in. and what she knows about her mother-in-law's politics, and her relationship with her son. >> it will be interesting to see if she does fully cooperate with law enforcement. >> one way or another. >> gloria, appreciate it. more now on the legal angles for the surviving alleged bomber, three new suspects and how the feds are making cases against them. joined by allen did your shall wits, author of "inside the legal battles that transformed our nation" and former security adviser juliet die am. this news first of all about the wife speaking with her husband after authorities released his photo the public, naming him as a suspect, if she knew her husband was a suspect, and didn't report him, is she in any legal jeopardy? i mean, is there a spousal privilege? >> well, there is no spousal

privilege for protecting against a crime like this. and there is an old statute called misappropriation of felony if you know about a crime and fail to report it, you're guilty of a misdemeanor. it's never prosecuted. it really all depends on the nature of the conversation. if she gave him any advice at all about how to keep from being be arrested, it could be a crime. but if she just said, oh, my god, or something like that, knew about it, and failed to report, unlikely, but i suspect that the authorities are going to figure out some ground on which to actually arrest her and try to squeeze her and put pressure on her and see if she will cooperate more than she is currently cooperating. that would not surprise me. >> and professor, with regard to the three young men charged today with obstruction of justice, how do you see these charges? do they seem weak to you? >> no. the charges of obstruction of justice seem very strong.

if they, in fact, received a phone call after the pictures were on television, and as the result of that phone call, got rid of very crucial evidence, including a computer, what could be more important? a computer which may have history of the past, indications of the future, contact information. they either knew, actually knew that they were obstructing justice, or they should have known. they were engaging in willful blindness. they should have not prevented themselves from learning. you don't just throw away a computer after a bombing like this when you see other kind of evidence, including the vaseline. i don't think the government will have much trouble proving the kind of knowledge that's required for obstruction of justice. as to the lying to the police and law enforcement authorities, that's always a hard crime to prove, because there is usually no transcript, no warning, most people don't know it's a crime to lie to law enforcement authorities. it's often one word against the

other. but it's a serious crime here. not allowed to lie to law enforcement, particularly when investigating something as serious as terrorism. >> and julia kayam, one of the students, his visa no longer valid, should not have been allowed back in the country in january. he was no longer an active student. but somehow there was a breakdown at the federal level. sounds like yet another case of maybe the left hand not knowing what the right hand was doing. >> right. so how it's supposed to work, and this is a lot of the post 9/11 architecture that was created, was if people are allowed in on student visas, there is actually no way the federal government can keep track of all of them. so universities and colleges are under an obligation to notify federal -- federal immigration services if someone has withdrawn, failed out or is no longer there. so the question that we have this period in december of 2012 of when was i.c.e., immigration, notified. and why didn't it get into the

system. and so that breakdown, if it is a breakdown, we have to figure out exactly when the school notified them. because, remember, he returns in january of this year, 2013. that is going to be a key issue. but just to put it in perspective, first of all, his student visa was okay until august of this year. so it's valid. but the other issue is, would that really have triggered anything. i know it's odd for people to wonder, well, why wouldn't that have gotten him arrested. a lot of people are coming through, millions of people have come through our borders every day and there are just priority lists if he's on no other list, but, you know, he extended his student visa. it's just one of those triage issues where, you know, you want to focus on people with records and stuff like that. so putting both pieces together, it looks like we need to look at what happened in december of 2012 when he returns in january 2013. >> and professor, we have this charging document today where a dinner a month ago before the bombing, dzhokhar tsarnaev sitting with these two students and he tells them he knows how to make a bomb. when you hear that, what's your

reaction to that? do you think it undermines this notion they had no idea what was going on until they saw him talking about it on the news? >> well, it's not an independent crime. people would be surprised to know it's not even a crime to know that somebody is planning to bomb the marathon and killing lots of people. it's not a crime to just know that and not report it. you have to have more involvement to be a conspirator. but it does relate to their state of knowledge when they helped destroy evidence. so when they get the phone call, the knowledge they had weeks or months earlier is attributable to them, and they had to at that point have a suspicion. and put one and one together and say, hey, wait a minute, are you asking me to dispose of bomb-making material? are you asking me to dispose of evidence? i think they really had very little chance of prevailing if they put forward the defense of lack of knowledge, based on this combination of circumstances. >> interesting. professor allen dir shall wits,

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disturbing video tonight, possibly the final moments of the cargo plane crash in

afghanistan that killed seven crew members. the video is apparently from a crash board camera of a vehicle driven by a u.s. contractor. we say apparently, because we can't independently confirm the video's authenticity. cnn has spoken with the driver of that vehicle. a warning, though. the video is disturbing to watch. chris lawrence reports. >> reporter: the video is dramatic and disturbing. a 747 just stalls and falls back to earth. while cnn can't fully confirm how authentic the video is, it does appear to show a cargo plane that crashed monday in afghanistan. that crash killed seven american crewmen, including brad hasler. >> if i could trade places with him so that he could be with his family, i would in a heartbeat. >> reporter: that's hasler's brother who says brad's wife is pregnant. >> this is his daughter, sloan, who is 2. and who we don't see in here is the baby that's on the way, who we expect to see in october. >> reporter: the 747 was bound

for dubai, carrying equipment as part of the u.s. military's drawdown from afghanistan. the civilian cargo plane was loaded with more than 60 tons of gear. >> securing them is absolutely critical to safety. >> reporter: steven wallace is the former director of the faa's accident investigation unit. he says there is no forgiveness in a plane's center of gravity. >> basically, there can only be so much weight at each part of the plane. so it's critical that the total weight be within the limit and that the plane be balanced. >> reporter: the 747 can take off a couple different ways. when it's carrying passengers, it will take four to five minutes to reach 15,000 feet. but in afghanistan, there's always the danger of being shot out of the sky. so the pilots need to gain as much altitude as possible while they're still over bagram. a 747 carrying cargo can reach altitude almost two minutes faster. >> the typical concern with a cargo aircraft and that has

caused accidents before, when it has rotateded with the nose up, it is moved aft. >> reporter: cargo is chained down, but if one of the chain attachments fails, it could shift. >> we don't know that that happened here. that has happened in prior accidents. then the airplane becomes uncontrollable. >> reporter: chris lawrence, cnn, washington. >> joining me now is john nance, good to have you on the program. sorry under these circumstances. i've never seen anything like this. it's everybody's nightmare. the plane looks like it just drops out of the sky. and i just want to play the video for you, and if you could just tell us what you see, step by step. >> absolutely. basically, what you've got here is an airplane that is running out of air speed, and running out of arrow dynamics. and you can see the high angle, which could be a result of cargo shifting as the gentleman from the faa said. if that happened, and it was out of what we call cg envelope,

then at this point he is literally stalling, trying to roll the airplane into some latitude that makes sense. but at that point, you see the right wing. this is what we know to do in a large aircraft if we're trying to gain control of too great a pitch. if it doesn't done soon enough, letting the nose come down and trying to regain air speed, you become basically 6 or 7 or 800,000 pounds of metal falling to the earth. at this point, the airplane is absolutely not arrest owe dynamic. it is simply a balance stick thing falling to the ground. >> and at that point the pilots know there is nothing you can do. >> i -- they would have flown to the very last micro second. that's what pilots do. by the same token, they would have known there wasn't a lot of room to recover. this is actually what we again call a stall spin accident. but there is no room really for a spin to develop. i think the pilot was probably trying to roll the wings over so he could get that nose down, but there just wasn't enough room. probably 1,500 feet. that's not enough for a 747 or

anything else. >> i've flown on plenty of c-130 karg yo planes and they work hard to make sure the cargo is exactly where it should be on the aircraft, that it's roped down, you know, from all different angles. do you think it likely that this is some sort of koorgo shift and how much would it have to shift to make a stall like that? >> well, i can see a scenario -- this has happened a couple times before in the history of large airplanes. imagine a vehicle breaks free, one of the vehicles in there of its chains, hits another, causes it to break free, and you suddenly have got thousands of pounds shifting beyond the point of survival, so to speak. the nose pitches up, the crew is desperately pushing the yolk forward, trying to regain control of the aircraft. and there's just not enough time and altitude to do it. we don't know that's the scenario, but that certainly is a likely explanation for what you're seeing here. the fact is, they don't have amateurs loading these things. but they are restrained with chains and things that tie them

down. and those things can break. >> i've flown out of bagram. you do have to, you know -- get up high as quickly as possible while you're sticking over bagram air base for safety reasons. you have no doubt that sort of exacerbates a situation like this, the chance of a stall. >> well, yeah, it does. any time that you're trying to get out of an area and get up higher than anybody can shoot a missile at you or shoot a handheld shoulder mound, yeah, you're going to have a closer air speed to stall than you would normally do. it's not dangerous unless something like this happens. >> it's just sickening, terrible for the families for those on board. john nance, appreciate you being with us. senators who voted against a gun control bill two weeks ago are feeling hit. those lawmakers who voted no have some explaining to do. >> i want answers that no one has given me. and i still haven't gotten them. >> she is confronting them face-to-face. also tonight, a new twist on the benghazi terror case.

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well, it's been two weeks since senate republicans defeated a bipartisan proposal to expand background checks on gun purchases. the 54-46 vote came just two days after the boston bombings. while the terror attack potentially drew attention away from the vote, the fallout is starting to surface. senators are feeling growing heat from gun control advocates, including some passion not voices new to the debate for whom the bill's debate was very personal. dana bash reports. >> reporter: sandy hook elementary principal, dawn hochsprung, was shot and killed in newtown. this week, her daughter drove from connecticut to confront senator kelley ayotte who voted against expanding background

checks, calling them a burden on gun owners. >> i'm just wondering why the burden of my mother being gunned down in an elementary school isn't as important as that. >> i felt the enhanced improvements to our background checks system -- as you and i both know, the issue wasn't a background check system issue in sandy hook. >> erica lafferty didn't do this on her own. she was sent by the group mayors against illegal guns which helped cnn get this footage. and cnn is told billionaire new york mayor michael bloomberg's well-funded organization also plans to launch this tv ad thursday. >> senator ray yot is giving criminals a pass. >> it's shameful. >> reporter: it's one part of a coordinated effort to use this week's senate recess to keep the gun control issue alive. despite losing a pivotal vote two weeks ago to expand background checks. >> the amendment is not agreed to. >> reporter: in order to find the 60 votes needed to pass a background check bill, supporters need to change some

half a dozen senate minds. they're going after these senators, republicans and democrats. >> mr. baucus, no. >> reporter: montana's max baucus, was one of four senate democrats to vote no on expanding background checks. a liberal group is trying to pressure him with this new ad. featuring a gun-owning grandmother. >> aimed my handgun at the door, and waited. guns can protect us so we're less safe with guns in the wrong hands. >> reporter: the nra isn't taking anything for granted. pushing just as hard to keep those senators in their corner. running radio ads praising senate no-voters like ayotte. >> and it's why kelly had the courage to oppose misguided gun control laws. >> reporter: but gun control groups insist, senators who voted against expanding background checks, widely popular, are taking a hit with constituents. a new survey conducted by a pro democratic polling firm did indicate a drop in support for ayotte after her vote against the background checks provision.

that same poll named arizona republican jeff flake, who also voted against the gun measure, the most unpopular senator in the country. prompting him to post this on his facebook page. nothing like waking up to a poll saying you're the nation's least popular senator. going on, to say, probably puts me somewhere just below pond scum. >> dana bash joins us live from washington. will any of this have an impact, dana? >> it's really an open question, anderson. i'm told there are some general discussions still going on among some senators about a way to revive this. but, you know, a lot of that really depends on how successful all of this effort is during this recess. whether or not they can effectively shame these senators or convince them that the public opinion is really on the side of gun control. of course, we see the numbers, but they actually want these -- want senators to feel it. i will tell you a senate source familiar with her thinking tells me that senator ayotte is willing to consider an

alternative. we'll see how that goes. but the other thing i wanted to mention, though, potential problem, is that the republican who was on this background check legislation, pat toomey of pennsylvania, he has consistently said since that failed vote he is done. he doesn't want to do this. he said something very revealing just this week to a local paper. he said that -- admitted there are some on his side, the republican side, who didn't want to go for this, because they didn't want to give the president a victory. we heard that from the president but to hear from a republican like this is pretty revealing. >> dana, appreciate it, thanks. leading up to the senate vote two weeks ago, erica lafferty, dawn hochsprung's daughter, lobbied senators to support the bill. she called them, she texted them, she went to capitol hill. she didn't get the outcome, obviously, she wanted, but she says she is not giving up. erica lafferty joins me now. erica, first of all, how are you holding up? it's been almost five months since you lost your mom. >> well, it definitely doesn't get any easier. but i'm trying to keep myself

busy and just doing as much as i can every day. >> i want to ask you about your confrontation with senator ayotte yesterday. you found out she was having a town hall a few hours away from you. what made you decide to drive to new hampshire, to the town hall? >> because i want answers that no one has given me, and i still haven't gotten them. and it was my first opportunity to, you know, ask the questions that i've been trying to get answered. since i left d.c. >> what did the biggest questions you want answers to? >> well, primarily from her, she had mentioned when i was in her office the day after the vote that she was concerned about the burden that would be imposed on people who are trying to sell firearms, and i just wanted to know why that was more important than the burden that my family has been dealing with since my mother was gunned down, in elementary school. >> what happened when you asked the question? >> the same thing that happened the last time.

she kind of just trailed off and went into, well, i do support mental health. well, i'm pretty sure all of america supports mental health legislation. it's obviously something that needs to be brought up. so i mean, she really just dodged the question, just as i had expected her to. >> you expected she would. you didn't think she would really answer. >> i don't think she has an answer. i don't think that there's any way she could look me in the eye and justify to me why she doesn't care that my mother was murdered. >> you don't think she cares. >> she voted that she didn't. >> you admit you were in her office before. what happened back then, as you said, the day after the vote? >> she went into, you know, the whole burden issue, and really just kind of went around in a circle and, you know, just saying this is what i do support, and, you know, not really giving me any reason why my mother doesn't matter to her, why five other educators don't matter to her, why the 33 people that are gunned down every

single day in america don't matter to her. >> what do you -- i mean, if this comes back, if this legislation resurfaces by the end of the year, do you think it will be any different? the result? >> when it does come back, i am absolutely confident that it will be different, because i know there's a lot of people out there that aren't giving up until this does go through. >> i know last month when a group of senators were threatening to filibuster the gun legislation, you took to twitter against them. and the tweet read, here's a picture of my mom and sister on her wedding day. i don't get one of these at my wedding in july. that's a pretty gutsy -- pretty, you know, bold thing to do. is that something you get, you think, from your mom? >> absolutely, it is. and, you know, really, it was just pure frustration that my phone calls hadn't been returned and my e-mails hadn't been returned and, you know, that was my next option. when that didn't work, i went to d.c. >> and do you plan to continue

to show up at town halls, at other events? >> without a doubt. >> i heard you may be going down to houston later this week to attend the nra convention. >> i fly out tomorrow. i will be there. >> what do you expect there? that's -- you're going right into it. >> i am. my goal is honestly to put a face to the name that people have been hearing. and i know they've seen pictures of my mom being plaflashed on a screen, but that's a little easier to dismiss than to have to look me in the eye and, you know -- i don't know. i'm just hoping that it will sway some people. >> are you scared to do this or intimidated at all? it's an intimidating thing to stand up at a town hall and confront a representative or a senator. to go to the nra meeting. >> no. >> no? >> i don't think so. i mean, i'm definitely not

intimidated. i'm angry, and i'm disgusted and i'm disappointed, and i'm outraged and i want answers. and the gentle approach isn't working, so this is my option now. i haven't been left with any other options. >> erica, good to have you on the program again. thanks for talking to me. >> thank you. just ahead, the developments in the investigation of the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. really bi- the house next door. our neighbor's house was broken into. luckily, her family wasn't there, but what if this happened here? what if our girls were home? and since we can't monitor everything 24/7, we got someone who could. adt. [ male announcer ] while some companies are new to home security, adt has been helping to save lives for over 135 years. we have more monitoring centers, more of tomorrow's technology right here today, and more value. 24/7 monitoring against burglary, fire, and high levels of carbon monoxide ing at just over $1 a day. and now get adt installed

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welcome back, let's take a look at other stories we're following. isha is here with the 360 bulletin. >> breaking news tonight. department of justice has appealed a federal judge's ruling that lifted all age restrictions on buying the morning after pill with no prescription. the move comes just a day after the fda approved making plan b one-step, a brand of emergency contraception pill, available over the counter for females 15 and older. the fbi has released photographs of three unidentified men allegedly at the scene of the u.s. consulate attack in benghazi last year. the men aren't being called suspects but are wanted for questioning. the fbi is asking for tips. anderson, a brawl broke out in the parliament as tensions over recent disputed election results boiled over, way over, we should say. two weeks ago, authorities announced narrow results in the presidential election to pick hugo chavez's successor.

some rough and tumbles there. all this week, we're trying something new in our 10:00 hour. christiane amanpour, toobin, the fifth guest is a surprise every night. eva longoria joined us last night. here's how it went last night. >> when you live in the public eye, public opinion matters. it matters in my industry. you need to like me in order to go see my movie. i need to depend on you to like me. so sometimes we walk that fine line of privacy and being completely open so you still like me. and i think we're doing a very good job of it. because if you give people the truth and say this is what's happening, there is less of a bounty for gossip. >> is that true, or do you just feed the beast? i mean, if you give people a little, do you make people interested and then you know, want to pursue you more, or do you keep people -- >> i think in jason collins' case, what you do is take away the gotcha. you're going to see more of who fills the fifth seat tonight in just over an hour. and just ahead, we'll have the

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time now for the ridiculist. tonight a story from new hampshire, a man named henry who dared to go toe-to-toe with a carnival game and lost. really lost. as in his life savings. the game is called tubs of fun. you throw balls into a tub. what could possibly go wrong, right? it seems like it would be really easy. henry certainly thought so. >> the ball just bounces right out, you know what i mean? there is really no way of doing it. but when you're throwing it in at first, it difference right in. no issue at all, eight balls, seven mistakes, fool-proof.

>> fool-proof until you spend $300 in a few minutes, which is what henry did, and then you go home and get 2,300 more dollars and spend that too, which is also what henry did. >> for once in my life, i happen to become that sucker. >> i think henry is being way too hard on himself. it's not like he left empty-handed. after he spent more than $200, he got a prize, a giant stuffed banana with dreadlocks and how can you put a price on something like that any guess you can put a price on something like that. for henry, the price was $2600. i know you're asking where can i get my hands on one of these sweet, sweet dread lock bananas and also how does someone lose so much money on the carnival game? >> because you get caught up in the double or nothing, i have got to get my money back. >> this is why i always stick to the duck pond game, skee-ball, tilt-a-whirl action. so henry is quite upset and says the game was rigged and was made all sorts of promises and really

if you cannot trust the worth of some guy running the tubs of fun game at a transient carnival, what can you trust? >> i was going to get all my money back. i was going to get an xbox kin neglect and because i was keeping everybody's attention, they were still going to give me a banana. they lied to me. >> they were still going to give him the banana. he thought he was going to win an xbox. if only there was some other way to turn $2600 into an xbox. the carnival company says the game is run by an independent contractor, which is a fancy way of saying carney. a carney runs it. i guess they're investigating said carney. and henry may get his life savings backcourt see of an offer from a website college humor. >> college humor.com is prepared to buy that banana from you for the full price of $2600. all we need is for 26,000 people to like this post. >> last we checked, that post on college humor.com was well on its way to $26,000, so it looks like in the end everyone is a winner on the ridiculist.

that does it for us. we'll see you at 10:00 p.m. eastern, another special edition of "360" with the round table discussion. thanks for watching. piers morgan live now. >> c is breaking news. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. breaking news in the new arrest in the boston bombing case. exclusive new video showing the moment the two suspects were taken into custody as police were hunting for dzhokhar tsarnaev. >> oh, my god, do you think it's him? >> shhh! >> put your hands up! no one will get hurt. >> everybody stay there, okay? do not move. >> dzhokhar tsarnaev. come out. >> do not stand up. it's okay, it's okay.