and this from david. why are you so awesome? to which my answer is practice, a lot of practice. keep tweeting me ten piers morgan. answer is, practice. a lot of the practice. keep tweeting me. "anderson cooper" starts right now. hey, welcome, this is a special live edition of "360." i'm anderson cooper. at table tonight, christiane aumen pour, and amy holmes, hand a special guest joining us, the fifth chair, he'll be joining us in just a few minutes. you can join the conversation by tweeting with us, ac360. what we just learned about how much worse the boston bombings could have been. what the surviving suspects said about when they were originally planning to attack and how that attack could have killed a lot more people. later, a conversation we started last night. we're going to continue tonight. the hunger strike at guantanamo bay prison.

the former chief prosecutor will join the table. also, later, p.r. disasters abound the dash board came. reese witherspoon's arrest is out. we'll show it to you and contemplate why saying, you're about to find out who i am" doesn't play very well with law enforcement. some of the other things she said as she acknowledges are pretty out there. anyway, you'll see all of that. before we get to any of it, i want to quickly go to newbury park, california, where firefighters have a monster fire on their hands. take a look at what happened earlier. >> right here in newburg park, this is one of the leading edges of the fire. they've been trying to drop water on this area. as you can see, it's so smoky, it's almost impossible to get a good look at where the fire is burning. i can tell you right now, it's burning up there all along that ridge threatening all of these houses in this neighborhood, but the smoke is just absolutely horrific, and

the heat, the heat is tremendous right now. the firefighters really up against it. you can see just where it's burning. you can certainly see the entire neighborhood, and these people right now are trying to evacuate. >> it's crazy how thick that fire was. paul, it's amazing how fast this fire is spreading, as we're going to look at the images we've seen throughout the last couple of hours. give us a sense of the scope of this fire. >> the scope is enormous. it's on miles and miles and miles. but for the first time since this fire started, we're hearing the word "containment." as i pull out here, you can see that smoke in the distance. while there's a lot of white in there, which means they're getting water and steam on it, now, ventura fire department tells me they have 10% containment. that wasn't happening earlier. so that plume is miles away, and then right behind us here, we understand these firefighters may even spend the night.

they need to comb the neighborhood. you'll recall, those water drops were absolutely perfect. they got in there with chain saws. they built a line and did their job. hoses. so far, we understand there might have been some houses slightly scorched. from what we understand, houses slightly scorched, from what we understand, but we have not had any houses destroyed in this massive fire. when fire fighters are out in a blaze like this, they're not getting reports back from individual battalion chiefs on these acres and often don't update them, because the pure focus is on fighting the blaze and not providing the media with acreage numbers. >> the fight is joined by about 600 firefighters. now, to boston, the surviving bomber says he and his brothers were planning a fourth attack susan, what have you learned?

>> this is coming to us from a law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. it gives new meaning to the term homemade bomb. the bombs were put together with volatile shrapnel, including bbs where he lived with his wife and child. >> it gives new meaning to the term "homemade bomb." the suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev says the bombs were put tole with bbs right there in tamerlan's apartment where he lives with his wife and child. now, tamerlan's younger brother, dzhokhar, told the fbi this during his initial interrogation that the bombs were ready to go earlier than expected. originally, they were planning to make the attack on fourth of july and make it a suicide attack during a huge day of celebration. and instead, they chose the boston marathon, and according to dzhokhar, and this is really amazing, that

decision was made within a few days of the marathon. it sounds like a last-minute decision, if you believe dzhokhar. >> all of this information, just to be clear, this from a source, you have dzhokhar telling authorities this -- this is not him recently te llyg him. this is recently from the first day or two after he was arrested and still in the hospital. is that correct? >> that's exactly right. before the exception right. >> what do you make of this? >> one day i hope we hear the story of these two boys. i hope we hear all of dzhokhar's story. because, clearly, this domestic terrorism, all law enforcement say, is the biggest threat in the united states today. bigger than the terrorism. and al qaeda. so we've really got to get to the bottom of this. it's incredible to think that they were able to turn it on, turn it off. >> he may have said that, but >> really skeptical about really going to commit suicide here.

i have now doubt he may have said that, but here's a guy who, the day after the suicide, is back at his dorm smoking pot. didn't look like someone who was that emotionally engaged in the process. >> lol. >> do you think you could get him to talk? >> absolutely. that is what judy clark does. the defense attorney makes a deal that gives the government something of value. if the government is interested. now, the government may say given the magnitude of this crime, given that he's the only defendant, given that we don't really need that much. we have his cell phone records. we have his computer. he has nothing of value. we just want to try him. >> i think susan's report suggest that the authorities know a lot more than we do. >> we do have the laptop computer. we know that now. >> yes, but the bomb was built in the apartment where the wife as chind were living. maybe we don't have a full story

from katherine russell, from her yet. this is just me and my brother. that looks like maybe it's getting -- >> how do you build a bomb in the apartment and not have the wife know about it? >> yeah, this is not a seven-room apartment. >> not like a, honey, what are you doing down there? >> i want to bring in bob baer who has had a lot of experience bomb making, in this area. thanks for joining us. bob, you, all along, have been very skeptical that these two built this device by themselves. any advice on the timetable of the attack? moved up the timetable, because they finished it earlier than they thought they would? did that change your mind at all? >> anderson, that could be consistent. it could be correct. there are two things i'd like to say. one is, al qaeda has a standard procedure for its operative. when they're caught, they're to say they did it on their own. they did it at home. they took the design off the

internet. that there was no direction. and that's been in place for the last four or five years. we don't know that that hasn't happened in this situation. and number two is, i've seen nothing out there to explain how these two young men were able to change the design. from the entire manual, because it was changed. there were a couple complicated addictions added to it on the surface and the rest of it. this isn't something they would be able to do. why did they deny that? i still think that tamerlan got some sort of instruction in chechnya or dagestan, but that's just a hypothesis. but, you know, yes, they could do it in the apartment. i doubt they were involved in

the attack. i doubt the wife was. there were probably unwitting details to this. >> bob, given the apparent lack of sophistication in the day-to-day life's these brother, don't you think by looking at their cell phone, looking at their computers, we'll know who they've been in contact with? not secret compartments. they would have talked to people on the phone. right? >> oh, absolutely. i think if there was a u.s. network, it will quickly come to life. they weren't sophisticated enough to find it completely. there will be some trace of it. the problem is going to be, what happened in dagestan. what kind of direction he had. not even the russians will be able to get at it. there will always be a question mark. i mean, i still have my suspicions, but i would, that someone sat them down and showed them how to make the harder parts of this bomb.

>> also a report, the brothers watched videos by anwar awlaki. i mean, it's interesting how this guy, who's been killed by the u.s., how he sort of has infused a lot of different attacks. >> yeah, again, if that's the case, having learned all of this online. they didn't mean anwar. he's been dead for a while but even before, had they been germinating this for a long time. and, again, you know, these are not bumbling idiots. they put a bomb at the biggest sporting event in boston and killed three people and injured 200. they're not bumbling idiots, and i think that -- >> i second that. i second that. you don't do two bombs in a crowded area without some instruction. >> if russian authorities were surveilling them, as we understand, base on reporting that they were, at least for a period of time, when the other bomber was killed, tamerlan.

if there was surveillance going on, unless they were incompetent, wouldn't the russians have some idea of what tamerlan was doing all of that time? i mean, how good is their surveillance? >> it's very good, but the question is, did they have 24-hour surveillance on them? it may have been sporadic. they may have been listening to phones. this is the problem. it's not as good in moscow. to conduct surveillance, it could take years. they're really running down all of the contacts. it's a lot harder than you think. and the russian system is not entirely efficient. >> yeah. >> and he did slip away. he didn't get his passport at the end. they may have missed a contact with groups in dagestan. >> one of the things when we keep talking about dagestan, it's interesting. actually, al qaeda does tend to claim these things, and these

people in dagestan out and out disowned them. they said, we have no connection with these men. again, bob, i know you're former cia. i still want to know how come a tamerlan tsarnaev who the russians have tipped off, who's on a cia watch list, who has very, very incriminating youtube pages and facebook russian pages, why was u.s. law enforcement not more after this guy? >> well, it's still, i think, the fact immigrations didn't informs joint terrorism task force in boston about this, about the return, you know -- it doesn't -- the system doesn't work. you know, i've heard all the -- >> we have an enormous bill. and spent multiple billions of dollars to -- >> well, even other than that the patriot act, the idea of creating a national intelligence office. >> right. >> the whole purpose was to --

>> i'm still so struck by the students and the -- if they would interpret what would be rather encryptic text messages to turn out and take the laptop take the bombmaking material -- >> i actually found it interesting and instructive. it wases that he -- >> yeah, we can argue everything he said. but, on this, he is a former u.s. attorney. and he said that these kazacs, they're in very deep trouble. they did not tip off law enforcement. >> we have to take a break. up next, the former chief prosecutor at guantanamo bay. and a force meetings going on. there's a complete 180 on getmo. and staunch defender of the need for gitmo staying open, we've been doing it all week. a very compelling conversation

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early morning amman, jordan, looking at the citadel. welcome to viewers in amman watching there and around the world and here in the united states on cnn. no single story has generated the kind of heat than what's going on right now. inmates on hunger strike right now. medical officers force feeding some of them. whatever you think of the place and the people in it, what's happening there raises a a lot of questions. back with our panel in the fifth chair tonight, someone who was president at the creation of getmo, good to have you here. you said getmo should remain open. what do you think about the force-feeding? >> i said i'd love to be able to close it. the problem is, how do you accomplish that? and that's what we run into. someone i know is very in charge to take charge of the gitmo prisoners. one of the best diplomats we have. he worked in the bush

administration. he works for president obama now, trying to find places. >> no one wants them. >> and it's been clear -- >> a certain number. >> and also we found out -- those who -- >> well, there were people released to yemen, returned to the battlefield. the president of yemen who is a strong fighter wants these people to come back. the momentum is building now. >> yes, after the underwear bomber, she and others in congress suggested to president obama that they do not allow people to go back to yemen. but now she wants to reconsider that. the president of yemen who is a strong ally and a strong fighter wants these people to come back. the momentum is building now. >> you're talking about the -- half the population. >> and 86 that --

>> and there's still another 80, who would still be acting in guantanamo. >> yes. >> this is why you need guantanamo. and we're not ready to deal with that. the fact of matter if we did try to bring them to trial, chances are they're going to get off on a technicality in an american court and then we just release them? >> why would americans -- >> tried in american court. >> one at time. >> the trial in the american courtroom of terrorists, people accused of terrorism, have been 100% successful. >> let's bring in someone who is very involved. retired air force colonel. in september's 2005 -- actually, sorry, by the way, the chief prosecutor in guantanamo. resigned in protest two years

later. he's since retired. colonel more is davis, good to have you on the program. what kind of impact do you think getmo staying open is having right now? >> i just don't see the upside to it. >> as jeff can tell you, the law that has come out of guantanamo have all been adverse to the u.s. there's just no upside to keeping it open, other than right wing talking points saying the president is going to be weak on terrorism. >> what will you do with the people who are there? >> one way to end the hunger strike, put the men on a plane with the detainees and fly them home. the hunger strike would be over. you'd end the hunger strike or let them die. leaving people in jail forever is just fundamentally wrong and

it's got to stop. we need to act like americans again. we used to be the land of the free and the home of the brave and we've been the strand of the cowardly for the last 11 years. either release them and they go back home or we give them a trial. >> colonel, for all of those who are wondering about what do you do with the rest, you're talking about the 56 yemenis. 80 others for transfer. but what about the others? i've talked to those who say the reason they're not released is there's no evidences being put against them. they can't go to trial. they're in this legal limbo. and some of them are really accidental prisoners. these people are being bought off and sort of tipped off for various -- it's true, amy. there are people in there -- >> people in 2009 did a review at that point. 240 people. almost all of them are connected to ith irlk -- either al qaeda

or the taliban. >> i think what we ought to do, there's a group of the 86 that have been cleared for transfer. these are cleared. i don't think americans understand. these are people that the f.b.i., c.i.a., department of justice, department of the defense said we don't want to keep them. are not a threat. we're spending $800,000 a year per person to keep them at guantanamo. this would qualify for the golden fleece award back in the olden days. there's a group of 30 that the administration wants to prosecute. and i think the forum ought to be federal court. jeff said we've been extraordinary successful. it's been fast. there have been severe sentences. where as, in guantanamo, we've had seven convictions. six of the seven back in their own country and six of seven overturned on appeal. then there's a group of 50 definite detainees that we hold them, because we argue that

we're at war. we have the right to detain, but we bring the troops out of afghanistan next year. that legal basis goes away. >> so that's the key issue. what do we do? this is where the president has to be consistent. if he thinks it's in the american's interest to close guantanamo, then close it. the president, then, should take a stand. if they're found not guilty, let them go on the streets. if they're found guilty, fine. but the chances are most of those 50 will not be found guilty. then the only consistent thing to do is either leave guantanamo open and keep them there or acknowledge they're going to be free to walk the streets. >> what do you do about this hunger strike right now? >> what is the humane thing to do? do you force-feed someone, or let them die of starvation? >> it's really a damned if you do, damned if you don't. >> i don't know. >> i think the way to do it is solve the hunger strike. i think if you began sending some people home that have been

cleared, it would show that there's some light at the end of the tunnel. >> the point is that the 86 who have been cleared, there are no countries that will take them. >> but that's not true. >> oh, come on, amy. >> there's no solution. bermuda won't take these people. >> oh, come on. >> how can you say yemen is not a solution? >> the senate intelligence -- >> that's not true, either. >> and for -- >> that's not true. i've done the homework on that. our good friend, peter bergen, manhunt, his document on hbo tonight has written copious articles and many others have as well of comparisons of recidivism in many years. it's basically at 6% right now. >> it's reported by the "the washington post." >> beyond sending them away, is force feeding, is that humane to let people go on hunger strikes? >> i think there's merit that if

progress is made, people see that there is a way they will eventually be released or dealt with, it might deceal with the hunger strike. every prison wants to be humanitarian. there is that solution. >> wait a minute. >> not everybody -- >> wait a minute. wait a minute. i want to stay on this for a second. why we have guantanamo. >> we have it because -- >> these people do not even follow the law of war. let alone the rule of law. both are legal and in the constitution. these people don't even wear military uniforms. they engaged in battle against america. a violation of the laws of war. >> this country fought adolf hitler, and i don't really believe that the -- that osama bin laden and his group are worse or more dangerous than adolf hitler, and we managed to defeat adolf hitler by following

the rule of law, and i don't see why do we have to -- >> a war? they war uniforms and fought us on battlefield. these people are fudd fundament totally by design different. >> i don't believe that. >> you wanted to have this whole thing about enemy combatants. the defense secretary donald rumsfield decided no geneva conventions. let's just put these guys in there. >> and they were treated in accordance -- they didn't qualify because they didn't wear uniforms. >> and do you know what? force feeding is also a violation of international efforts. we know that. >> christiane, in the short-term, then, if you oppose the force feeding and we're not closing gitmo in the next week, yet they could die in the next week what do you think is the solution?

>> i think the solution is written in many, many instances. there are ways to get rid of these people. you've just discussed some of them here. try them in court. the problem of course is getmo could celt up so you could interrogate these people and a lot of that evidence you can't use in court. but, look, there are those who have been accused who have gone through the court system and have been convicted and sentenced to life in prison. >> it's not a right wing talking point when president obama himself hasn't released these people. >> i didn't say that. it's because they've made it very difficult. i agree with you. we should have done. >> it's not just that obama decided not to do it. >> nor has he put them on trial in military tribunal. >> nobody jumps up and down and gets hysterical about it. bring him here to try the case, congress pass add law that said he couldn't close guantanamo. it doesn't mean it was right.

>> it's just not american. >> we've got to end it. it's good to have your voice in this debate. the latest held captive by north korea. he's been sentenced 15 years to hard labor in a labor camp. we'll talk with him. held five months until president clinton secured her release. she'll join the panel, next. çtoooowl

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seoul, south korea, almost noon. the united states is now demanding the release of an american citizen who's been sentenced today to 15 years hard labor in a north korean prison camp. we don't know specifically what he did to upset the government. he was arrested in november. he was actually a tour guide, taking people to the zone in the north. he's a

tour guide bringing chinese business guide to a special economic zone in the north. what do you do? i get it's to go over there? >> these are the worst type of headaches for the presidents. you have to protect your people. you have to do something for the other hand. it puts us, as americans, in a bad spot. the most important thing is back channels. work former officials to get him out. do not negotiate with the north koreans. this is a lesson the obama administration has to his credit. he has learned negotiating with north korea never leads to anything good for the west or for america. >> do you mean on the hostages or in general? >> you and i believe in this. >> but north korea, all they do is lie and they get rewarded for it. >> well, look. we have one of the first foreign policy themes that the bush

administration policy did. was sort of torpedo the policy and end all of thattest there, and what happened? >> you are definitely -- >> wait, wait. i'll get there. under the '94 agreement of framework, there was a move forward. everyone said that. they could have had 100 bombs. they didn't. yes, they cheated a bit, but all the experts said it was manageable -- no, no, no. until president bush, he kicked out the iaea and they started nuclear testing. that is the timeline. >> is that george bush violating his word to bill clinton? violating a nuclear weapon? >> i'm merely saying that that is the timeline of what happened. >> if you don't negotiate, what do you do? just pretend they don't exist?

>> you let them make their threats, you don't reward them by giving them more food. >> we're not going to stop them by negotiating. >> negotiations where north korea lied to the president -- president bush's negotiations, and now to president obama's credit he's stopped the negotiating. >> let me just bring in -- let me bring in laura ling, held captive by the north regime never five months until former president clinton secured her relief. laura, great to have you on the program. can you relate to this man, held, what was it like being held captive in north korea? >> well, it was the most terrifying time of my life. he's been there previously on a number of occasions, but one

moment his family believes that she doing his job and the next moment, there is no contact with him, and they don't know if they will, you know, see him ever again. he is isolated in the most isolated country in the world. with very -- almost no contact with anybody. i believe he's been able to have contact with the swedish visitf and meant to be consular in nature. ask about his well-being, but very little else said. i'm sure he feels extremely helpless. >> by the way, you said five years, it was five months before former president clinton went over there. how do you get through those days? did you have contact with your family? i talked to kenneth bayh's

sister. how do you get through those moments where wsh wsh -- i spent three days in lock-up in iran. it was the scariest days of my life. i can't imagine being in prison in north korea. >> fortunately, we were treated humanely and our conditions were decent. that was after a pretty violent beating, an initial beating when we taken into the country. i was grateful for our treatment after that, when we were treated humanely. every second of the day is a struggle to get through. i was allowed a total of four phone calms to my family. so that's more than this family has had, but aside from that -- and they're very short calls. i was allowed some letters, and that was a huge comfort. that was really the only thing that kept me going during that time. the letters that i was sent. i don't know if he's been allowed letters, but i could --

i think i sent one batch of letters out to my family to my colleagues and that was it. >> i want to address the question you were asking about diplomacy. it's not the only avenue leading through a former president general u flexing against president jong-il un. i think we're missing china and the pressure that china could be exerting in this instance for its imports and food example. so my question is, can we use that route in order to try to free -- i have to disay glee. i think it's a brave person that goes into north korea that tries to shed light on the terrible conditions there and help those poor north koreans who are suffering under this tyrannical regime. >> everybody's tried to use china as leverage. china is playing a double game. it is helpful behind the scenes, but in terms of the bigger picture, china is playing a double game.

they really don't want to help. they don't mind what going on. >> why does china want north korea to be such a nightmare? why does that -- the chinese influence? >> they fear a bigger nightmare. that's reunification. they don't want the north and south to be combined. that's china's buffer. they worry about unifying. they're worried that if that does happen, they'll be on the doorstep, as well. but i do think it was under president bush. there was process in 2008. >> and they're worried what happened, the usa will be on theirstep as well. look it was under president bush. actually, there was, in 2008, a whole agreement with the north koreans. king jong-il, dismantled pa

pyongbyong, and secretary of state kerry who went over to south korea after that last, you know, three or four weeks ago. there was eruption and he was threatening to do missiles and this and that. the question is maybe you can't get over this. and just the way you dealt with soviet union, there are ways of dealing with these issues. >> we have to wrap this up. >> i think the solution is let china worry about north korea. let them collapse on their own. they eventually will. >> laura ling, thanks for joining us. just ahead, some p.r. disasters almost call out for rubber necking. you've got the situation in bangladesh. reese witherspoon's ordeal. there's also mountain dew just made one of the worst commercials ever. we'll talk about it all ahead. p.r. disasters ahead.

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fire. mountain dew pulling back several racially loaded commercials. one professor called it -- in fact, this commercial that was made by a rapper for mountain dew, the most racist commercial ever made by a u.s. corporation. also, reese witherspoon's disorderly conduct arrest. dash cam released. just as she's trying to repair her reputation. take a look. it's kind of extraordinary. >> ma'am, what did i just tell you to do? >> i am an american citizen. i'm allowed to stand on american ground and ask any questions way i want to ask. are you arresting me? are you kidding me? i'm an american citizen. this is beyond. this is harassing. you're harassing me. i'm an american citizen. i have done nothing. against the law. >> yes, you have. you didn't oh way my -- >> i have to obey my orders?

>> yes, you do. >> i do not. asked for nothing. >> i am now being arrested and handcuffed? do you know my name, sir? >> i don't need to know your name. >> you don't need to know my name? >> not quite. >> you're about to find out who i am. >> oh, she was right about that. never, ever, ever say, do you know who i am? how can you arrest an american citizen? >> it's disturbing, that somebody in ""legally blond" you can be arrested for disobeying a police officer's instructions. >> yes. i have to say, i thought it was a little harsh to arrest, based on what i saw. but certainly it was within the officer's right, and i think she made a bad situation worse with her behavior.

>> how did the video from the police cam get out, i wonder? >> on a serious point, you do crisis p.r. when something like this happens, or more serious, you have this bangladesh horrific fire. a building collapsed. >> 400 people have been killed, and they're still trying to recover and rescue. how do you go about trying to fix it? >> separate the two, first of all. and in the case of reese, what shi did the very next day was actually give a very human and genuine apology. i think you have to look at her and say do i believe her? is she acting or not? and i believe her. >> look, i have a police officer in my family. that's the only thing from a crisis p.r. point of view you can do. and as for the media --

apologize, but you don't need a crisis rep to do that. it has to be real. >> it's so interesting how politicians rarely say okay, i made a mistake. seems in the political world oftentimes, they're loathed to -- to say i misspoke. >> to bangladesh, and this is a big deal, because there are huge bribes being paid left and right. these people connected with the party. 10% of the parliament there are also business owners. people looked the other way. this factory was basically a land grab by a well-connected guy who then built more floors where everybody to be inside and there was huge cracks. but also, the heart of the fact, there's no organized labor there. all of us in the west, we like really cheap fashions and this is what's happening. >> we shop at walmart, or many

of us do, and you can buy a pair of shorts for $5. and their slogan is low prices. why are they low prices? because these people get paid nothing. >> but will american consumers care? >> disney has now stopped getting their stuff from there. the eu is threatening sanctions, kand davp is, canada is, too. do you know how much they're paid? they get paid $37 a month. the pope yesterday called that slave labor. >> sweat shops have been going on for quite a while. what's fascinating to see is whether or not more and more things come to life, this has to be the hope of capitalism. you cannot have three pockets with work rules, labor rules, environmental rules are not followed. we follow them in the west and in the united states. the west has to help them. >> you're right, and they need the investment and that's what's

so sad. but the west also now has -- one thing, the west has to help. they've got to help. >> on this mountain dew commercial, i just want to show this commercial. it is stunning that a major american country allowed this commercial to be aired. >> got them all lined up. we want to nail this little sucker. which one is he? come on. point to him. >> it's me. you should have gave me some more. i'm nasty. >> i don't think i can do this. >> it's easy. i mean, you know, this is an -- it's the one with the four legs. >> i mean, you know, this is an interesting question. is it more racist or is it more bigoted against women? i mean, this is the -- >> and the whole thing -- >> you can't decide which is -- >> i mean, the fact that people do not talk to police about what crimes they see is the bane of police existence.

>> beat up woman? and -- and -- >> i do have a perspective on this. i think it's racist in so far at hip-hop culture, i think glorifies vulgarity, violence. by a rapper, a hip-hop artist himself. it's actually a follow-on, where that woman is a waitress that gets beat up by this goat and now is there at a lineup. i object that the person who created this thinks it's funny to beat women up. >> pepsi came out immediately, took responsibility, even though it was done by a subsidiary. what you have here is the class of those people trying to be edgy through social media going viral. and mainstream corporate america. this was done at the subsidiary level. to be edgy by design. frankly, i don't get it. i don't see how it sells a thing. >> well, we've got to leave it right there. we'll have more ahead. we'll be right back. u 8

sunett in seattle, washington. sun coming up there. it's 8:00 p.m. there. thanks very much for watching, everyone. bye, bye.

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