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garage. >> reporter: it has 15 plastic pieces, one metal firing pin. he said that's as simple as a roofing nail you can buy for a few pennies at any hardware store. it doesn't violate the undetectible vfirearms act, but this will change the way people think about getting a gun, wolf. >> emily schmidt reporting for us. thanks for that report. i'll be back at 5:00 p.m. eastern in "the situation room." that's it for me. brooke baldwin takes it from here. just moments ago, police revealed a timeline of exactly what happened inside that bridal party limo just before it burst into flames. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. what to do with the body of a terror suspect. in boston, no one wants it. verdict watch. any minute jodi arias could learn her fate. we're live when it all goes down. plus, syria vows revenge
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after israel strikes. and good news for many american men. the little blue pill is just a click away. good to see you on this monday. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being with me here. two weeks to the day after the boston marathon bombing. dzhokhar tsarnaev is scheduled to appear at the federal courthouse in boston. that is happening this hour. he is robel phillipos, accused of lying to investigators and he may be close to getting released from police custody. joe johns is at the federal courthouse this afternoon. joe? >> brooke this hearing was originally scheduled to serve two purposes to talk about probable cause in this case and detention for robel phillipos,
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charged with false statements after the fact in connection with the boston bombing case. now, based on papers filed in court, we do know that the government and the defense have apparently reached an agreement where by phillipos can be released. he can be released to the custody of a third party. he has to wear an electronic ankle bracelet for monitoring and has to provide $100,000 in secured bonds. now the question is whether the court will go for that. his probable cause hearing has been rescheduled until may 16th. brooke? >> joe johns, thank you. as legal wheels turn, a massachusetts funeral director facing a difficult question. how to dispose of tamerlan tsarnaev's remains. the bombing suspect's body is now at a funeral home outside of boston. no cemeteries in the area will take it. and muslim tradition forbids cremation. the funeral director who has the body says tsarnaev should be buried here and buried very soon. >> i think a lot of the people
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don't understand, it is an emotional problem obviously, but after it settles down and people think about it, they know we have to bury somebody. that's what this country does. >> i can tell you, i was in boston the last three weeks, not at all a popular idea even to have the man buried in the whole state. and today, a new option emerged, this citizens group in worcester opened a bank account to send his body back to russia. the group's leader says tsarnaev doesn't deserve to be buried there. >> why would we want to have this gentleman buried in a cemetery that every year i got a event there that honors world war ii vets, and civil war vets. why would i want him buried two miles from my house? >> we'll be talking to him at the top of the next hour about why he wants to raise this money and why he says absolutely no
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way to having tamerlan tsarnaev buried anywhere near boston. also want to bring in now, my best, professor sagar, assistant professor of islamic studies at georgia state university. good to see you. welcome. before we get into what i want to bring you on, just the processing and the muslim right, you heard the back and forth in massachusetts, here, about this body. what do you make of all of this? >> obviously, like your guest said, it is an emotional issue, will be politically charged, nobody really wants to go near this body, the muslim community itself has distanced itself from the process of burial, but as a funeral director said, he needs to be buried. it is ludicrous to think he can stay in a refrigerator or something like this indefinit y indefinitely. >> as they try to figure out what to do with the body, with people who aren't familiar, we talk about muslim rites and the burial, once a muslim dies, typically it should be 24 hours, correct?
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>> actually before sundown if possible. >> so obviously that didn't happen in this case, the body wasn't claimed for weeks. now that it has been claimed, we know the body has been cleansed. educate us on what needs to be done to the body. >> there is a cleansing process that everybody needs to go through. it is a kind of ritual abolition and somebody has to do it and that's the mall. doesn't matter if the person is a criminal, if they're the nastiest person in the world, somebody has to give another muslim his proper -- his or her proper funeral rites. it is not a judgment about whether this person is accepted into the community, whether they're forgiven or anything like that. it is simply something somebody has to do. you wash the body. you put some perfume on it, you clothe that in a shroud and bury it into the ground. pretty straightforward and needs to be done as soon as possible. >> there are people out there who aren't as familiar with the rites and processes who say, look, easy, simple, cremate the
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guy. >> absolutely not. >> absolutely not? >> it is not a tradition dealing with a tradition itself that is 1400 years old that goes back to earlier, near eastern traditions and cremation is out of the question in this tradition. >> out of the question, even making this one exception, given the back and forth and the anger in the symbolism and everything surrounding the story. >> it is interesting because cremation in the united states, in u.s. culture, is seen as an honorary distinction, a way to honor the dead body. why would we opt for that option? why not put the body in the ground, somewhere discreet, doesn't need to be disclosed to anybody except the family, of course, and move on with it. the idea of raising money to send the body somewhere else seems insane to me, where so much money could be raised for good, but the idea that we're spending so much time on saying this person is not part of us and doesn't deserve to be in this ground, it is understandable from a reactionary point of view, i understand that american
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forgiveness is much bigger than that. if you've seen what the country has been able to overcome, even in the immediate aftermath of this event, you would imagine that we could get over this problem fairly quickly. >> even the governor of massachusetts deval patrick saying, the family has options, we need to figure this out with the body, we should be focusing on the vaengs the sinvestigatio survivors. professor, a stunt plane performing at an air show in madrid, spain, when the unimaginable happened. you see the smoke. you saw the flames. the pilot of that plane is dead. more than a dozen people on the ground were injured.
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government spokesman says the pilot was very, very experienced. investigators are working to try to figure out exactly what caused that plane to go down. from witness accounts, it took mere seconds for a limousine to turn into a death trap killing half the members of this bridal party, including the bride herself. five women died inside this 1999 lincoln town car saturday. reports indicate that the flames began in the rear section of this limo, as it was crossing the san mateo hayward bridge there in california. but from the pictures of the flames, i want to show you the bride here. newlywed, this is neriza fojas, seen here in a family photo. she and her girlfriends were celebrating, the second time she was marrying her new husband at a wedding set to be taking place shortly in the philippines, second ceremony. the medical examiner says fojas and the others killed were found all near that window partition
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that separates the driver from the passengers in the back of a limo because the women were trying to squeeze through the hole to escape. five other women and the driver survived. here is the mother of one survivor. >> we did not sleep. both of us crying and crying. no. thank god she survived. >> dan simon is live in san mateo, california, where the highway patrol and coroner, i know, just wrapped up that news conference. and sad in every which way here, dan. do we know why this happened? do we know what caused this fire? >> reporter: you know, i would say at this point, brooke, it is a real mystery if there are any operating theories investigators aren't saying anything. you mentioned that investigators think it might have started in the trunk area and if you look
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at the vehicle, it would suggest that's why the fire broke out. but we really don't know at this point was it electrical, was there some kind of fuel leak, a puncture in the fuel tank, we just don't know. this is what investigators had to say a short time ago. >> the driver was alerted to smoke in the passenger compartment by one of the passengers. and he pulled to a stop in the traffic lane when the vehicle quickly became engulfed in flames. the driver and four passengers were able to exit the vehicle. >> reporter: brooke, i would say there are two central questions today, just how exactly did this fire break out and how come not everyone was able to get out of the limousine. and the limo was a mere four minutes away from the hotel where he was going to, you know, where the driver was going to drop off these women at this bachelorette party, just four minutes away, there behind me on that bridge.
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it is just absolutely heart breaking. >> dan what about this limo company, limostop. what kind of record does it have? >> reporter: they have an a plus rating from the better business bureau. and this driver apparently has a clean record as well. so, you know, you look at the early facts, and you just don't know. one thing that i think is interesting is the driver has spoken out about what happened. and initially there was some confusion. this is important because you want to know how long did it take for him to pull over once he realized there was smoke. well, one of the passengers apparently knocked on that partition and said smoke. and initially the driver apparently thought that somebody was wanting to smoke in the car, and then they knocked again and said smoke. that's when he realized that they didn't want to smoke, that they were complaining about the smoke and he told investigators that it took somewhere between 30 seconds and maybe a minute before he was able to pull over
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and the four survivors were apparently sitting towards the front of the limousine and sort of dove over that partition and got out the front door. then the ones who died were apparently in the back. so i think it is an important, you know, thing to consider how long it took for him to pull over and exactly how those four survivors got out. >> well, dan simon, thank you. we'll ask him about it because the driver of the limousine will join me at the top of the next hour. i'll make him start at the very beginning, ask him also, you know, about that timeline, how long it took him, and apparently according to his brother, one of the papers i read, keeps saying i could have done more, i could have done more, and we'll ask him if he's at all been in touch with the families. from what i read, he has. stay tuned for that. top of the next hour. the jury in the jodi arias case is in its first full day of deliberations. and just a short time ago, a clerk cleared the media out of the courtroom. we don't know what, if anything,
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that could possibly mean here. but if convicted of first degree murder, arias faces a possible death penalty. a full report on this for you next hour. coming up next in developments in the case of a prominent doctor found dead inside her home, investigators say this does not look like an accident. why there is reason to believe she was poisoned. plus, as israel strikes, syria says this means war. how the united states could handle the escalating crisis in syria. stay right here.
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we know police searched klein's widower's lab, he also works for the university of pittsburgh. what does that tell you? pretty typical? >> you know, i'm sorry, brooke, you're breaking up a bit. i couldn't hear your question. you may have to -- >> stand by. >> -- ask drew. >> we'll work on your audio. what do you think of the search of the widower's lab at the university of pittsburgh. >> they have to find out where this came from and it will be very, very difficult and they have to -- the big caption phrase is preserve the integrity of the multiple crime scenes because they don't know where they are. they need to look for every source of this substance that they can. whether it be in the workplace, whether it be at home, whether somebody tried to introduce it to the home, introduce it to the workplace. they're doing everything they can. this isn't a knife. it isn't a gun. this is something so difficult to get a hold of, they're looking everywhere they can to see and identify this substance,
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find it first, and then see from where it came. >> okay. sunny hostin, you got me? >> i got you now. >> okay. let me pick up. drew answered that. let me throw this to you. the medical examiner's office is saying this doctor's death is highly suspicious, so if you are representing this woman's widower, what is your plan? >> wow, i mean, i think certainly highly suspicious leads the door open, does it not, in terms of giving an explanation as to what happened. i think you continue the investigation and i certainly think ultimately it is going to be sort of a question of expertise. what really happened here. >> okay. and then in terms of evidence, what kind of evidence do investigators need to bring charges? >> they're going to need to find the substance and see if they can link the substance to somebody. whoever that somebody is. and i think, brooke, what makes it most interesting is we always
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say, now they're going to look at the spouse. well, her husband has gone on the offensive. hired a united states attorney from pittsburgh. brought in one of the world renowned forensic pathologists in cyril wecht to assist. so you don't see that very often. and it is interesting that he's doing that. >> okay. let me switch gears, sunny. i'll toss this one to you. i want to talk about kobe bryant here and this whole spat he's having with his mom. she's apparently trying to sell, you know, pieces of memorabilia, childhood jerseys, rings, trophies, but kobe bryant, he says, no. he's trying to block this auction, says it is his stuff. whose stuff is it? >> it is so terrible this is happening right near mother's day. i got to tell you, this is not a great place for kobe bryant to be. his pr has gone up and down.
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we know that he's been having -- he's had a lot of difficulty in the press. and now you hear about this. you hear about the fact he left a lot of his things at his childhood home with his mom, she says she's held on to it for, like, 15 years and she wants some money for it. she's been advanced about $450,000 from this auction house. and apparently the lot could get over $1 million. and he's saying, no, no, no, he filed a cease and desist order and said that's my stuff, maybe it is there, but i always intended to keep t i think the legal issue is is that true, was it always kobe bryant's or did he really intend to leave it to his mother? because he's got a big home. he's got plenty of money. if he wanted those things, why not just keep them? why not take them with him? but it will be who really owns the stuff. >> he's got some stuff, for sure. but, drew? >> the big issue is whether or not kobe can afford a big pen to write a check to his mom for 1 million plus and get the stuff
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back from her. i don't get it. why hire lawyers? why go through the process if it is valued to $1 million, to kobe, $1 million is like 25 cents to everybody else. that's the way i would legally advise him. >> spat with mom. thank you very much. just ahead, as an american sits behind bars in north korea, the response to accusation he's now considered a bargaining chip. we have that. plus, a girl's night out ends in tragedy after a young mother falls out of a party bus. three
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and, by the way, two of the three left the scene without stopping. she was the mother of a 6 week old baby girl. >> always had a smile. she was a great girl. she loved everybody. didn't care who it was. jamie loved everybody. >> no one else on the bus was injured. and some of the items you buy online could be one step closer to getting taxed now. the senate is set to vote monday -- excuse me, today, which is monday. it would require all big online
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bottom of the hour. i'm brooke baldwin. just into us at cnn, new information about last fall's deadly attack at the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. in an interview with congressional investigators, the former top diplomat in libya expressed concern that more could have been done by the military. let's go straight to the hill to chief congressional correspondent dana bash. and, i know, dana, you sat down with congressman darrell issa. what did he say? >> reporter: he's the chairman of the oversight committee. he's spearheading this investigation into what happened and why with regard to benghazi for a long time. as you well know, republicans for the most part have not let this go since september of last year because they have insisted all along that in the words of john mccain this is a cover-up. jake tapper reported first
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yesterday about greg hicks who was a chief of mission in benghazi who was going to be a star witness in this wednesday's hearing. talking about the fact that he believed it was a terror attack from the very beginning. i asked chairman issa about that and really why does it even matter. >> gregory hicks, who was the highest ranking diplomat in libya at the moment that the ambassador was assassinated is going to testify that from the get-go he knew this was a terrorist attack and communicated that to the white house, to the state department, to anyone that would listen before, during and after. >> reporter: and what does that tell you? why does that matter? >> i think your question of why does it matter, because secretary clinton seems to want to say it doesn't matter what the cause of it was. it does. because just a few days later, ambassador rice said on national tv opposite the libyan president that it in fact was not a terrorist attack. that insulted the libyans and
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probably led to the fbi getting in later, not sooner. >> reporter: and, brooke, what he's talking about there is testimony that hicks gave saying he is sure based on his opinion being in the region for so long that it is because the libyan leader felt insulted by susan rice contradicting her on national television saying it was just a protest, wasn't a terror attack that that is the reason why the libyans were so reluctant to have the fbi come in and do the investigating that the u.s. needed to do. there is that and also some more testimony that he's going to give, as you mentioned, about the military and whether or why they didn't get in quicker to deal with this attack. we'll have more of that later on and, of course, we're going to hear more on the days up to wednesday's hearing. >> we'll watch for your reporting on those hearings. dana bash, thank you so much, on capitol hill for us. cnn has now learned that 42
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syrian soldiers died in the israeli air strikes. now, israel has not yet claimed responsibility here and doesn't -- let's not expect them to either. but i u.s. official confirms that, yes, what you're seeing right there, that was done by the israelis. again, 42 syrian soldiers killed. now, these attacks came in two waves. the first late last week. the second, early sunday morning. the targets, primarily missile storage sites near the capital of damascus, or so we're told. why those sites? we'll talk about that hearing in a moment. want you to listen to a top syrian official, he's talking takeback as in retaliation. >> declaration of war. this is not something that is strange, but we dealt with this on several occasions. and we retaliated the way we want and the retaliation was
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always painful to israel. and they will suffer again. >> israel tanks at the syrian border were placed on alert, but israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu left the country on a preplanned visit to china. so maybe that seems to me doesn't appear like he's too worried. joining us from washington is cnn's hala gorani. and hala, what would be the reason for israel to specifically target these rocket storage sites in syria? >> reporter: well, the reason is to target arms potentially on their way to hezbollah, the militant group in southern lebanon. this is what israel at this stage considers to be the biggest threat to its security. it deployedit its iron dome system. they have been at war for more than one month in 2006. iran, syria, are supporters of the militant group. so targeting the sites in syria would be a way for israel to try
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to halt some of the weapons shipments before they make it to lebanon. what is interesting, though, is that through one of the confidants, one of the confidants and people close to prime minister benjamin netanyahu told israel radio that essentially israel is trying to assure the assad regime that it is not aiming to detabstabilize. >> what about this vow of retaliation we heard, vowing that, you know, as we said, prime minister netanyahu, he went on with his trip to china. do israelis believe assad is too weakened to cause them even much trouble? >> reporter: there doesn't seem to be sort of concern of an imminent military retaliatory strike by syria on israel. there is some precautionary measures on the israeli side of the border right now as i
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mentioned with the iron dome system. but that doesn't seem to be the imminent concern for israel. as you mentioned, the prime minister of israel continued on with a trip to china. so business as usual, politically there in terms of israeli -- the israeli leadership. but one thing i want to bring up is some of the claims that were made by the u.n. human rights investigator karla del ponte, this has been an extraordinary 24 hours, brooke, where you have one official from the u.n. saying we believe rebels have used chemical weapons and then the next day, the u.n. issuing a statement saying not so fast. so this is a very multilayered story here with many different claims of responsibility, of attack, of counterattack. >> hala gorani, thank you. we are hours away from a political showdown in south carolina. two big names facing off for this one particular seat here for the house of representatives.
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affair. chief political reporter gloria borger is in washington. >> crazy. >> i know. it's crazy. i can't help but giggle at the cardboard cutout. mark sanford, he's been able to close the gap. does that surprise you? >> in a way, it doesn't. the reason it doesn't, i went back and looked at mitt romney's numbers in this particular district, the first district. mitt romney, who, as you recall, lost the election, won with 58% in this district. it is a very conservative place. and i think there are going to be lots of women, gender gap issues, for mark sanford obviously and we can all recall how he left the state when he was governor to go hike the appalachian trail, he told us. his mistress has been seen with him on the campaign trail. so if you set aside the gender issues, this is a very
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amount of stress for you? >> yes. it does. i am talking to you right now. there is a voice in the back of my head that -- there is an innate nervousness to being in the business. >> reporter: a bill in congress would bar the federal government from going after people in states that have legalized marijuana, but it is unclear if the bill has a chance of becoming law. are you afraid that all that you've built here will be taken away from you? >> yeah. i can't even keep my face straight right now saying that. that's such a real fear. >> reporter: nate runs the warehouse. i want to learn more about exactly how you grow marijuana on essentially an indoor farm. so where did it start? >> so it starts here in the lab. >> reporter: can cuttings known as clones. >> get a little gel on there. >> reporter: that go into these tanks for about two weeks and into this room for about five weeks under simulated sunlight and co2 rich environment.
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each of these plants gets its own bar code? >> that's right. every single plant what it comes out of the cloner, gets into here, it is coded individually. we're able to trace that plant from this stage all the way to the end product. >> reporter: then the light is cut back, to simulate the shorter days of autumn, triggering the plants to flower and it is off to be trimmed and dried. the entire process is regulated by the state. after a criminal background check, employees are issued a worker i.d. card. every time a plant is moved, the employee logs it using this software, a fingerprint scanner tracks the employees at every turn. >> there is no scar face here. no ak-47s, none of that stuff. we have inspectors from the state in here all the time. >> reporter: even though gindy pays sales and income tax, marijuana is still against federal law, so expenses cannot be deducted from federal taxes and fdic-backed banks won't take their money. >> there is nothing glamorous about this business. it's a struggle trying to
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operate without a bank account, trying to run a business without being able to take dedukctions. >> reporter: about 500 medical marijuana companies compete for the business. >> they become more connoisseurs about their marijuana? >> definitely. it is all chronic. >> reporter: competition has driven prices down to half of what they were three years ago, creating razor thin margins. could that change when more people, even pot tourists from out of state, are able to legally buy weed? gindy isn't so sure. >> there is a risk that comes along with it. >> that might push the federal government into acting where they were not comfortable acting with medical marijuana. >> right. and i need to make that choice. >> reporter: these pioneers will probably never convince all their critics that pot should be legal, but they see themselves as the good guys.
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>> every single person that comes here that works for me, when they clock in, they put a finger on a sensor. so every single person that works in this industry are all here for one reason, one reason only, because we believe that marijuana prohibition is immoral and we have to do something about that. >> reporter: jim spellman, cnn, denver. israel strikes and now the syrian regime is vowing revenge. cnn will take you like no other network can inside the danger zone. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. what to do with the body of a terror suspect? boston, no one wants it. verdict watch. >> why should we believe you now. >> jodi arias could learn her fate. we're live when it all goes down. you heard about the gun, made with a 3-d printer.
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now first shot has been fired and i've got video to prove it. and a story you will never forget. an nba superstar joins me live on what happened when a friend with cancer asked him for a favor. here we go. hour two. i'm brooke baldwin. thanks for being with me. want to begin with the brand-new information into the investigation of the boston marathon bombings. a law enforcement official briefed on the case tells cnn that investigators believe that tamerlan tsarnaev accessed bomb-making materials on the computer, so it was taken from the computer he shared with his wife in cambridge. that source tells cnn that investigators believe it was tamerlan and not his wife katherine russell who was the one accessing the information. meantime, one of the three young men accused of helping dzhokhar tsarnaev is going to be released from custody. robel phillipos, who is 19, is
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accused of lying to investigators. that's the federal charge he is facing. joe johns attended a hearing that just wrapped up in boston. he reports that the prosecution and defense have agreed to allow this young man to be released on bail with conditions. you're staring at him right now. the conditions include home confinement, at the residence of a third party, 24-hour monitoring with an electronic bracelet, and his release would be secured by a $100,000 bond. meantime, there is this group, citizens group, outside of boston, raising money to send tamerlan tsarnaev's body back to russia. the body right now is at the funeral home in worcester, massachusetts, not too far from boston. we now know it has been prepared for burial in the muslim tradition. if has been washed as they say. but the thing is, no cemetery wants to accept that body. and cremation not an option in the islamic faith.
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one says tsarnaev does not deserve to be buried in massachusetts. bill breault is his name, he's chairman of the group called name south alliance for safety. i was in boston for the last three weeks and talked to a lot of people who said a lot of things i can't say on television as far as how they feel, you know, about having this body anywhere near the city of boston. tell me why you say it is not okay to have him buried in massachusetts. >> well, let me back up a couple of steps. i live a couple of blocks from where this funeral home is. i also know peter stefan, the gentleman who owns the funeral home. i think he made a big mistake intervening, going to south atle borough, the funeral director there backed out of it, peter
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stefan, the director near my home, the funeral home, stepped in to it, and now we're in a situation where nobody wants to take him. having said that, he came from cambridge. tamerlan tsarnaev alleged bomber came from cambridge, i believe the city manager there released a statement saying, well, i don't want him in cambridge. so i don't know if you don't want him -- he's not a citizen, he shouldn't be given rights, where our focus is going to be on raising money to send him back to his home land. whatever happens there happens. we're in the process, we opened an account today. i donated $500. we had a press conference. >> bill, let me stop you right there. let me back up because i just want you to tell me, though, at your core, the idea of having this man buried in boston, buried in massachusetts, maybe even buried in the united
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states, what words do you have for that idea? >> well, i think it is a bad idea. and what also -- this funeral director, peter stefan, is stuck right now. we worked with him over the last -- there is a cemetery -- near where i live and they were working to try to get him buried in there. he has no other option. i not only don't want to see him buried in worcester, massachusetts, very close to where i live, i don't think he should be buried in the state, therefore the reason we're raising $3,000 to $5,000 to have his body shipped overseas. >> bill, let me throw this at you, because i know a lot of people agree with you and don't want him snain the state, get h out of here, and it is against the tradition to cremate him. there is an idea thrown out there that it is ridiculous, the idea of raising money. if you're raising thousands of dollars to send his body to russia, instead that several thousand dollars should be spent
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on good, should be spent on survivors, should be spent on victims' families. what do you say to those people? >> here's how i -- my heart goes to the -- those -- i'm a bruins fan. i watched one of the victims who lost two legs wave a banner in the boston garden before the game. my heart lays with the m.i.t. police officer. if we can raise the money to get him out of here -- no direct cash, i have money, $50, $20 in cash offered to me today, i said, send a check, we want him out -- >> did we lose him? sounds like we lost him. anyway, sounds like bill breault there as he mentioned, he has given the first $500 and he and this group who -- this community of worcester, not too far from boston, they raised money for firefighters have done good for citizens of the community and he
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wants that body back to russia and he is going to help to make sure it goes there. we'll follow up and see if that is even a possibility with this family. new information just in to cnn about last fall's deadly attack at u.s. consulate in benghazi. the former top diplomat in libya expressed concern that more could have been done. cnn's chief washington correspondent and the anchor of "the lead," jake tapper, joining me from washington. jake tapper. >> hey, brooke. >> what are you hearing about the testimony of greg hicks? >> well, we have obtained some of the excerpts of the testimony that greg hicks, the former deputy chief of mission in benghazi, i'm sorry, in libya, what he told investigators in interviews last month. and there are a few interesting aspects. first of all, we know that this controversy has to do with three different parts of the attack. there is before the attack, whether or not there was enough security in libya, and why the
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state department declined to give more security to libya as requested. there is during the attack. and then there is after the attack. during the attack, the criticism and the questions are around whether or not more could have been to help save, protect the individuals under siege in benghazi. and after the attack, questions about the white house, what they were saying publicly what they knew, blaming it on a demonstration because of a youtube video, anti-muslim video, versus a terrorist attack. those are the three different permeatations. what hicks is saying has to do with the second anded third. could the military have done anything more that night? and also, just questions about why the white house did not reach out to him, saying, he says, that he told investigators last month that i thought it was a terrorist attack from the get-go and then he describes watching susan rice, the united nations ambassador, go on the sunday talk shows, the sunday afterwards and he said, my jaw hit the floor.
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i've never been as embarrassed in my life, in my career, on that day, because according to him, rice was undercutting the prime minister of libya, who was blaming it on a terrorist attack. a lot of very heated criticisms from this deputy chief of missions, former deputy chief of missions. >> jake tapper, i know with your reporting, you'll be all over it on "the lead." thank you very much, my friend, i appreciate it. want to turn now to the jodi arias trial on jury verdict watch here. eight men, four women, hold her fate in their hands. arias could get the death penalty if convicted of first degree murder. last night in phoenix, friends of the victim, travis alexander, held a candlelight vigil. several said they are praying for these jurors in hopes of a just verdict. travis alexander, jodi's on again, off again lover, was stabbed close to 30 times, had his throat slit from ear to ear, took a bullet to the face. jodi arias has changed her story
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many, many times. at the trial, which has lasted four months, she went with self-defense. brian smith is with me from hln, evening express. here we are, deliberation time. any indication we could get something from them anytime soon? >> no idea. you like to read something into some of the things they asked for, if they have any questions, they haven't had in so far. they took lunch. >> no reading the tea leaves. >> no tea leaves yet. the general rule of thumb, for every week of the trial, a day of deliberations, that makes it a 16-day deliberation period. i don't think that will happen here, but you never know. >> what are the options? >> first degree murder and lesser included offenses. second degree murder, manslaughter, they can acquit her. second degree is basically intentional killing without premeditation. manslaughter is a little different. manslaughter there has to be -- she has to have killed him with
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a conscious disregard for life and there was some sort of argument that precipitated it, some sudden quarrel or heat of passion and he had to provoke it. a couple of different theories here. manslaughter, she could get time served walking free. second degree, anywhere from 25 to life, maybe as low as ten years, first degree, totally different story. >> back to first degree. if it triggers -- if she is convicted of first degree murder, that triggers the aggravation phase. >> right. and this is a very interesting thing with arizona. a lot of different states, it is a death penalty state and they get first degree and the jury convicts, it might go to a judge. here there is two additional phases. the first phase would be, she's convicted of first degree murder. the prosecutor has to present evidence beyond a reasonable doubt, she was so cruel to him to necessitate the death penalty. the cruelty becomes key. if the jury finds for that, then the defense presents a third phase, which they basically try
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to list the mitigating factors. why she shouldn't be put to death, her family life, she's never had any priors, a lot of different evidence like that. and if they don't believe that, then she proceeds to the death phase and that's it. she's given the death penalty. if they do agree that there are mitigating factors, she does not get the death penalty and the judge makes the decision. >> if it is first degree, you have the back and forth prosecution, whether or not death is on the table and then move on past that. >> exactly. a lot to consider. this jury sits through all three phases so they're not going anywhere anytime soon. >> ryan smith, thank you. you know all this stuff backwards and forwards. stay with cnn for continuing coverage of the jodi arias trial. we have reporters at the courthouse and we'll bring you the verdict live when it is announced. coming up, as promised, an interview you do not want to miss. i'll speak live with the man who was driving the limousine that burst into flames over the weekend, killed a bride, several of her friends who just were out to have a good time over the weekend. you will hear what he saw, what he heard, and what he thinks may
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what's interesting here, though, is that this -- viagra is expensive. if you don't have insurance, it is about $400 for 15 pills. so that's a lot. the stuff that you see online, when you don't need a prescription, is, like, a fraction -- way, way, way -- that should be your first sign. i think people still are going to go to these sites where you don't need a prescription. if you need to do it legitimately and for real, you can go to this website. >> elizabeth cohen, thank you very much. now, fortune magazine's annual list of the top 500 companies is out and a new number one. walmart, the giant retail store reclaiming the top spot after slipping to second place next year. exxonmobil at number two. rounding out the top five, chevron, philip 66, the oracle of omaha, warren buffett's berkshire hathaway. apple cracks the top ten coming in at number six. boot up your computer.
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download a file. build a working gun. this isn't a fantasy. this is real. this is a video here that actually shows the all plastic gun being test fired. it was made from parts created by this 3-d printer which can turn digital files into solid plastic objects. emily schmidt joins me from washington. emily, this instant gun, if you will, i know it is causing all kinds of concerns where you are in washington. >> reporter: it is a game changer because this idea of 3-d printing could put a gun in your hand in a matter of hours. cut out the middle man, no gunmake, no gun dealer, you do it all yourself. cody wilson posted this video online. he believes it is the very first time that any gun has been printed entirely on a 3-d printer. and then fired. he tried first firing it remotely on friday. when that worked, he upped the ante, firing a second gun by hand on saturday. he's posted a link to the gun design online and that is what has some lawmakers very worried.
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>> the guns are made out of plastic, so they would not be detectible by a metal detector at any airport or sporting event. let's think about this for a second. now, anyone, a terrorist, someone who is mentally ill, a spousal abuser, a felon, can essentially open a gun factory in their garage and the only thing they need, a computer and a little over a thousand dollars. no background check. you don't even have to leave your house to make hundreds of these guns. >> and i want to show you how this works. this is one of the pieces of a gun. the 3-d printing company here in washington made it for us, from the plans posted online. this is a gun grip, lighter than my blackberry, took about an hour and 20 minutes to make. it only takes 14 more pieces, one metal firing pin, and that is just a simple roofing nail that you get at any hardware store, to complete the gun.
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wilson's gun has one other thing, some steel in it to keep it solely from violating the undetectible firearms act. that's a law in place, fwhaenz fi bans any firearm that doesn't set off a metal detector. he came up with the idea only a year ago. by last weekend, he was able to prove it. >> i was wondering if there was any metal in that thing. emily, thank you very much. and scary moment for justin bieber at a concert in dubai. a fan managed to get on stage, rush the top star from behind. see the video. there they go. and actually you will see they -- the bodyguard tackling him, knocking over the piano in the process. it apparently didn't phase justin bieber too much. he kept on singing as the fan was arrested. kobe bryant in the middle of a battle with his own mother over old high school and laker memorabilia. i'm talking about rings and trophies and jerseys that are all up for auction. bryant is trying to put a stop to this, sending a cease and
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it seemed like a video game with a first person perspective of a gunfight. but what you're about to see is very real. and a warning. it's disturbing. >> middle field police in ohio released that dash cam video of a patrol unit and investigators say james gilkerson shot at two officers. they're recovering from their injuries. he was killed. our affiliate wkyc reports
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police still don't know why that man started shooting. bottom of the hour, i'm brooke baldwin. i want to begin talking syria and a u.s. official saying israel has attacked syria. there is concern that syria's internal war may be on the verge of bleeding across the middle east. syria warned israel of all possibilities after overnight air strikes on syrian military targets. israel has not confirmed or denied its involvement in those attacks. syria's good, good friend iran, is ramping up its rhetoric. iran now warning of a quote/unquote, crushing response. meanwhile, a u.s. state department official says there is no information suggesting rebel use of sarin gas. let's talk about all of this with our chief international correspondent, christiane amanpour who is joining me in new york. welcome. and i just want to begin with some sound. i know you just got this
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exclusive interview with the leader of syria's opposition government. i want to play a portion of that. >> over 30,000 hezbollah soldiers are inside syria, fighting along the side of the assad regime. do we wait for more iranian soldiers and iranian influence in the region? we tell our friends, arab friends and nonarab friends in our western friends to look at these things very closely. the interim government is the alternative, is the solution to bring order into syria. >> christiane, what was the crux of what was he saying and should u.s. be concerned about this, you know, war here? >> well, a lot of new developments, brooke. first and foremost, that was the new prime minister of the opposition. the first, actually. he says he's going into syria to do a number of things, to bring basic services, and also to ramp up the opposition demand for, as
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you know, military help from outside, from the west, in terms of anti-tank weapons, antiaircraft weapons, and also no fly zone. whether or not that happens remains to be seen. but what he's also saying is, look, bet on us, we're the modera moderates, you know us, and if you bet on us and help us, that will marginalize the radicals, the jihadis, the extremists who joined the fight on the side of the opposition in syria. so that's one thing that is going on. the other thing that is going on is israel setting out its own red line and taking action on that. whether or not it publicly admits it, all sorts of israeli officials has confirmed that has happened, they have struck not for first time, a military installation near damascus, and they said that they are trying to stop any kind of advance weaponry coming from iran through damascus to hezbollah in lebanon. this kind of weaponry, they said, could then target israel. so israel has all day been
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bending over backwards to convince the assad regime that, no, we're not going into this fight on the side of the rebels or against you, but, yes, we will not allow these weapons to come and try to threaten us. so that's what's going on there. >> but with this possibility, that it is out there, a fear of retribution, you have the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, he took his trip to china what do you make of that? do you think he's thinking, well, bashar al assad and his regime is weakened, therefore he can continue on because of the ongoing crisis in the country? >> here's the thing. from the start everybody in the united states and certainly the united states allies in the region, the neighbor syria have been very concerned about a wider war. however, most people don't really think that syria is going to retaliate despite what it said today it a declaration of war, we won't be humiliated.
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most people, the israelis i've spoken to, and i've spoken to a former senior israeli security officer, who doesn't believe that they're going to retaliate. on the one hand, they have their hands full with the rebellion. on the other hand, anytime israel has gotten into a fight with syria, syria has lost. so there is no money in syria trying to do that. they don't believe that hezbollah is going to start firing off rockets into israel either at the moment. if they do, maybe, you know, not in a wide scale. so they are taking the israelis a calculated risk. not to get in on the side of the rebels in syria, but to definitely prevent advanced weaponry getting to hezbollah that could threaten them. >> christiane amanpour, always nice to have you on and help us understand what is happening in regions like what is happening in syria. thank you very much. and coming up, we're going to talk to ricky brown. he drove that limo full of happy
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found all huddled by that glass partition that separates the limo driver from the passengers. >> one could say they were getting away from the fire and that's why they were in the front towards the partition. and you can also probably say that they were trying to get out as well. >> joining me now is the driver of that limousine, and one of the five people who made it out of that limousine, orville brown. mr. brown, do you mind if i call you ricky? >> no, that's fine. >> how are you? >> i'm okay. just really trying to get through a very horrific experience. >> i can't imagine. help me understand. i want to begin at the
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beginning. how many women did you pick up saturday night and where did this whole limo ride begin? >> picked up nine women, began in alameda. we were driving. everybody was joyous, beautiful ladies, beautiful occasion. i was happy for them. we turn on -- we get on the bridge and everything is fine. we're going over the span where it is elevated and one of the ladies knocked on the partition and said smoke. and i figured that she was asking if she could smoke a cigarette. >> how loud was she? let me stop you. this tapping, and then hearing smoke. was there music in the back of the limo? how well could you hear her? >> there was music on. but i heard her. she was right up by the partition. i figured that she was asking if she could smoke a cigarette. i said, we only have four more minutes. and, you know, the boss doesn't
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allow us to smoke in the limo. about 30 seconds passed, and she knocks again, and i look back, you know, this time i'm kind of concerned. i smell smoke, i look back, and i saw the grief, the anguish -- the grief on her face, and then i started smelling smoke and started seeing smoke. so we pulled over. it was kind of -- kind of frustrating, kind of scary, driving, and we pull over and there is nowhere really to pull over, so we're in the lane, i'm looking back and making sure that everything is safe. and as soon as i pulled over, one of the ladies hopped through the partition, i unlock the doors -- >> let me stop you. at what point did she roll the window down, did you roll the window down quickly? realizing it was smoke and she was trying to get out?
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>> no. the partition was already down by that point. we opened the door -- i opened the door, the lady hops through the partition, and at that time, there is two cars, one in front of us, i believe, one in back of us, and these guys are trying to help. so i see the ladies coming through the partition, i'm trying to use the phone, i can't use the phone. i'm shaking, i'm nervous. by this time, someone had opened up the rear door. and the limo was engulfed in flames in the rear. there was a lady coming through that got stuck, i pulled her out, and then one more got out, and it is just -- it was horrific. just something that i never imagined, you know, never would have imagined it would happen. >> so you're out of the limo. you're helping one woman come through. how many women were you able to
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help? >> one or two. one or two. everything happened so fast. by the time the back door was open, the half of the car -- when that back door opened, it just burst into flames you know? >> who opened -- let me hear this again, who opened the back door, and did you see any of the women trying to get through that back door instead of the glass partition in the front? >> i believe the lady that, the first lady that came out opened the back door, but could have been one of the guys, because i remember two people going to the back door on different occasions. but there was so many flames and everything happened so fast, and that's basically what i remember. everything happened so fast. it was just very scary situation. >> what were you hearing? were you hearing screams?
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>> what i heard was us outside, we were -- we were crying and screaming and nervous and that's all i can remember, ma'am. >> how fast was it between the time you got out and several of the women were able to climb over that partition, before this entire car burst into flames? >> i say maybe 15 to 30 seconds at the most. maybe -- no, 30 to 60 seconds. >> that quickly. and we know that four women were able to get out. the others did not. and so as they were being rushed to the hospital, ricky, did you go to the hospital? what did you do saturday night? >> no. i sat in the police car and talked to the chp officers after the incident. i was first one out of the car.
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sat, cried, prayed, just wishing that something different could have been done. >> how long have you been driving limos? >> for this company, two months. i've never driven a limo before this, but i have -- i've been in the transportation business before. i've driven airport shuttles for two different companies. >> in your time driving, ricky, had you ever had an experience involving an accident, certainly not of this magnitude, but involving a fire? had you ever known anyone to have this happen to? >> no, never. this is the first experience -- first experience like this. >> now, with the flames, we know that, as you point out, that they were coming from the rear of this particular vehicle. and some reports indicate maybe the flames came from the trunk.
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did you check out the trunk before you drove this car? what do you make of those claims? >> no, i didn't check out the trunk. i did stop and get some ice and put it in the ice trays on the inside, but there were, you know, no indications of anything, you know, of that nature. >> this is a 1999 lincoln town car. do you know if it was regularly checked, maintenance, et cetera? >> i do know -- i drive the limo usually on the weekends, okay. i usually drive a town car during the week or suburban. as far as the town car, and the suburban, we take in regularly because i'm behind the wheel of those, you know, every day. every 3,000 miles we have to maintain the -- we do an oil change and we also do a -- we change the transmission fluid. as far as the limousine, i
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believe the owner does that. >> so was there anything to your knowledge that was awry with this car before you hopped in the seat on saturday? >> no, not at all. >> and let me also just ask, when you were driving this limo and you're crossing this bridge and you're minutes away from the final destination and hear the tapping on the partition, were you listening to music? >> no. >> were you on your cell phone? >> no. >> i have read that your brother has been quoted that you keep saying that you could have done more, you could have done more. do you still feel that way? >> i mean, you always -- i think in this situation, you always -- you always would feel you could do more. you could have done more. i don't know. you know, it is just -- everything happened so fast, i just wish that, you know, there could have been something done more. i don't --
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>> what could that -- what could that something have been? i'm sure you played this back in your head, ricky, so many times since saturday. what could have been done differently? what could you have done differently, possibly? >> you know, i really don't know. if i would have known that -- everything happened so fast. but if i would have known she was saying, you know, smoke instead of okay, i want to smoke a cigarette, maybe 30 seconds would have been spared. everything happened so fast. i really don't know, you know. everything happened so fast. >> when you were outside of the limo and you're watching it burst into flames, and you're with some of the other young women and said you're all crying, what were they saying? >> just -- we were horrified. i called 911. took me about five minutes to actually get them on the phone. we were shaking. other people were trying to call.
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just, you know, horrified. nervous. scared. it is windy. it is cold. to watch this long limousine just engulf in flames, it was just a nightmare. >> can you describe some of their injuries for me? were they burned at all? >> the four, i didn't see them burned at all. >> ricky, i understand you've been in touch since saturday with some of the victims' families. is that correct? >> no. no. i haven't talked to anybody's family. >> did you plan o you plan on r? >> i would like to reach out to them personally. we're sorry that this happened. and i can't even imagine what you're going through. but what i would like to extend to you is that i'm taking a
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couple of weeks pay and putting it towards my foundation, we're going to do a fund-raiser for you guys because something has to be after we called 911 and no disrespect to the fire department. that's their protocol. but it took them about 30 minutes to get over that long bridge. i know the san mateo bridge is the longest span -- we have three long bridges in the bay area, the san mateo, the dumbarton as well as the bay bridge. there should be a substation on the bottom of those bridges. they had to come all the way from foster city, they passed us up, had to go into the hayward and come back. we watched two fire trucks pass us up.
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the other thing is the safety on limousines. there has to be better regulation. >> you said two things i want to follow up on, one was you mentioned your foundation. then you mentioned raising money for some of the families. if i have this correctly, as you mentioned, you've been driving this limousine for two months. the reason why you were driving this limousine was because you're starting a foundation for at-risk youth in -- is it the san jose area? >> yes. >> so you wanted money to be able to help kids. and now you're saying you want to help the victims' families with several of your upcoming paychecks? >> we have to. not just that, i'd like -- we'll have the website up pretty soon. i just want people to -- something has to be done. i know it's not going to bring back the ladies. but we have to do something for the families.
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>> ricky, i know you've been dealing with these limousines for just two months, but what do you think caused this fire? >> i'm really not sure. i know it wasn't gas related. and the car didn't blow up. it just engulfed in flames. the smells that i -- i smelled carpet, i smelled wiring, i smelled plastic. to me, in my opinion, it probably was electrical. >> i just want to read a statement from your limo company. they say also they will do everything possible to investigate and assist authorities in determining the cause of this fire in order to help bring forth answers and provide closure to the victims and their families. ricky, before i let you go, you say you will continue driving because you want to raise that
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money for these families and you do plan on reaching out to some of the victims' families. >> yes, to all of the victims, not some of them. >> all of them. again, what do you want people to know -- what is your number one message? >> i'm sorry personally and my heart goes out to you. i feel for you. i wish there was something that i could tell you because i know you guys are grieving as well as i am. but we're going to do something. we're going to -- the little bit that we can do, we'll reach out to you with it. >> what is the one image, ricky, that when you close your eyes you can't stop seeing? >> just everything, not just --
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there's not just one image. there's a lot of different images. a lot of different images. the fire, us on the bridge screaming, them getting into the cars, not one image. it's a lot of things. >> okay. ricky brown, thank you for spending all this time with me today. i appreciate it. like i said, i can't imagine what you're going through. of course also these families of the young women who will never be coming home to them, horrendous. i know you'll also be on piers morgan live tonight. meantime, we will be right back. d of his insurance agent. maxwell is not. he's on geico.com setting up an appointment with an adjuster. ted is now on hold with his insurance company. maxwell is not and just confirmed
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