come. >> there are questions already coming. not just about the 911 call, but also about the investigation itself. some people say they did call police to veg the house where they were held for so many years. tell us about those allegations. >> reporter: talking to neighbors here in this community, they say on at least two specific incidents over the years past, there were times that authorities were called. they were notified that there was something suspicious going on. it didn't look right. there was a young lady that didn't belong that maybe was being held against her will. police responded and knocked on the door for eight minutes. after hearing nothing, left. another call, they went to the backyard. lots of dogs barking, but neighbors say nothing was done. here's the sentiment in this community. this is the tough side of cleveland. had it been a wealthier neighborhood, the police

response would be different. that's way too early to determine. right now, they are looking at the rescue of these young ladies and the questions will come. were there other victims? how was this handled? should there be changes. >> those three young women freed after so many years really have their neighbors to thank for this. amanda berry who so bravely else caped the house, she was helped out of the house by one of the neighbors. and then she ran across the street. neighbors let her into their home to call 911. >> yeah, they did. she begged. she said can i use the telephone? you can only imagine what this would be like. a chaotic scene where a woman tells you who she is. i have been kidnapped for ten years. a lot of shock, but people responded. and they responded in a human way. this person needs help, needs a pho phone, we'll get you out.

that's what happened. >> all right, standby. we're awaiting a news conference to begin. kpped to speak the mayor of cleveland and also the chief of police. we're expecting them to outline charges against three men involved in this case. and also to tell us a little more about what these women's lives were like inside that house. that news conference expected to start at any time. in the meantime, we want to hear from this neighbor who so bravely came to amanda berry's aid. his name is charles ramsey. we're going to start to play his sound. but if the news conference begins, we'll go there. but here's charles ramsey in his own words. >> heard her screaming. i'm eating mcdonald's. i come outside. i see this girl going nuts trying to get out of the house. so i go on the porch. she says help me get out. i've been here a long time. so i figured it was a domestic violence dispute. i open the door and we can't get

in that way because how the door is, it's so much that a body can't fit through, only a hand. so we kick the bottom and she comes out with a little girl. she says call 911. my name is amanda berry. >> did you know who that was when she said that? >> when she told me, it it didn't register until i got to calling 911. i'm calling 911 for amanda berry, i thought this girl was dead. she got on the phone and she said, yes, this is me. and the detective cook says, do you know who you rescued? the girl amanda told the police, i ain't just the only one. there's more girls in that house. so they are going up there and when they came out, it was just astonishing. i thought they would come up with nothing. we see this dude every day. every day. >> how long have you lived here? >> i've been here a year. i barbecue with this dude. we eat ribs and listen to salsa

music. >> you had no indication? >> not a clue that that girl was in that house. or anybody else was in there against their will. he just comes out to his backyard, plays with the dogs and tinkers with his cars and motorcycles. you look away because he's not doing nothing but average stuff. nothing exciting about him. until today. >> that was charles ramsey. let's go back to martin savage. something in that interview intrigued me. we don't know. there were two children taken out of that house. one of them came out with amanda berry. she called that little girl her daughter. but we're not clear who that child is right now. but you did tell me earlier that neighbors saw those children on the street walking along with suspect. >> reporter: they did. and there are a lot of speculation going on here in the

neighborhood as to who the children are. officially we have not been told. but we do know there were two young children rescued along with the three women that came from the home. their relationship to the women who were held, the relationship to the captors, we don't know at this particular time. there are neighbors who say in the case of ariel castro, he occasionally was seen walking the streets with a young child. neighbors would ask him, who is the kid here? and his response was that is the daughter of my girlfriend. apparently never went beyond that, but it is a startling thought to think it's so brazen he might walk around with maybe one of the children of his abductees. >> there are no words. stick around. we're going to bring in mark class. he has focused his efforts on protecting children after his own 12-year-old daughter was kidnapped and murdered.

he joins me now from san francisco. thank you for being with us this morning. >> my pleasure, carol. >> where do i start? as you sit back and watch this story develop, what goes through your mind? you work with so many victims. >> there are so many victims and we can't forget these girls and these women are as are their families and they will suffer from that victimization for years to come. it's not a clear road. there's going to a path to recove recovery. >> ab absolutely. you're looking at live pictures of a press conference that's just about to begin. the mayor of cleveland expected to speak. also the chief of police moouk l mcgrath. we're going to break away just for a second so we can listen to what they have to say. you stay right there. thanks so much. >> good morning. we're here today for the media briefing connection with the

safe finding of amanda berry, gina dejesus and michele knight. we ask that you understand that some questions we can't answer and some questions we can answer out of respect for the family. be mindful this is an ongoing investigation and due to the sensitive nature, some questions cannot be answered. i introduce to you the mayor of cleveland. >> this morning we are happy to announce, as you know, that amanda berry, gina dejesus and michele knight have been found and are alive. we're happy that they have returned to us. but their absence for several years has plagued their families, our community, police and our law enforcement partners

for years. we have several unanswered questions. why were they taken? how were they taken? and how they remain undetected in the city of cleveland for this period of time? today we have three suspects in custody. over the years the cleveland police have worked closely with the northern ohio violent fugitive task force led by the cleveland office of the fbi and on the investigation of gina dejesus and amanda berry. we have with us special agent in charge steve anthony. he will be talking later. we have also searched our records for public safety calls to services at 2207 seymour as well as complaints regarding the house or the occupants of the house. since last night we have learned

the following. the housing does not have any records of permits or violations at that address. our records show that the fire department and emergency medical service have not been called to that address. at this time our records show that cleveland police have responded twice to that address. once in 2000 and another time in 2004. the director will provide details in regards to that. as we move forward, we will provide updates as they become available keeping in mind, as was stated, that this is an open investigati investigation. again, we're thankful that ms. berry, ms. dejesus, and ms. knight have been found and they are alive and that we have offered our support to the families and to the three ladies as they move down the road to

recovery. now i do want to say, again, this was a traumatic experience for them. since we did not experience it as a community, but for them it's a traumatic experience and we need to give them room in this. so i will introduce you to the safety director. >> good morning. last night just prior to 6:00 p.m. cleveland police communications center received two calls. one from a neighbor to the house on soeymour avenue and second call from amanda berry, one of the missing women. an incident was created in our communications center at 5:52: 30. a police dispatch and first responders arrived on the scene just under two minutes later at

5:54. by 5:58 the responding officers have identified gina dejesus and amanda berry being located at the home. one minute later, they announced they had also recovered safely michele knight. all three of the missing women and a 6-year-old child belonging to one of the missing women was conveyed to the medical center where they were being treated for providing care. immediately after learning of the incident, we began an immediate search of our data bases to determine what information that we had regarding this specific address. we have no merit -- we looked back at the emergency medical calls for service and our fire responses to the address on seymour avenue since 2006 as far back and there were no calls for service. we checked our building and housing department to see if there were violations or complaints made against that

address and there were no complaints or violations identified. we also went back and looked at police calls for service. we did learn that in march of 2000 ariel castro reported to police that there was a fight in the street. there was no record of any arrests having been made as a result of that police response. and in january of 2004, as a result of an investigation that was initiated by children and family services, went to the address, knocked on the door were unsuccessful with connection in making contact with anyone inside the home. the incident appears to have been related to his employment as a school bus driver. he either intentionally left a child on a bus when he returned to the depot.

vul as a result of that, it came to our attention there may have been a crime. an investigation was conducted by the cleveland division of police. there was no criminal intent on mr. castro's action. we're going to continue to look at all the data bases not only from calls being made from that address or about that address, but any calls that have been made or could have been e made by neighborhood residents all e alleging illegal activity. i can confirm no neighborhoods have called regarding information regarding activity that occurred at that house on seymour avenue. i'll turn this over to the chief of police michael mcgrath who will provide some additional information. >> thanks, director. good morning, everyone. last night the city of cleveland

northeas rescue of michele knig amanda berry, and gina dejesus. as a law enforcement person, i know everybody within the division of police and all my law enforcement partners feel the same. i was overseeing the disappearance of ms. johnson back in the low 2000s. she was a 12-year-old female that disappeared and three weeks later we found her body tragically. so to find these three girls recovered, it just makes -- it just gives us a boost. it really, really does. amanda who had been missing since april 21st, 2003, was identified last evening after fleeing from her captor's home and amazingly gina dejesus and michele knight were in the same house alive and well with a small child.

all the women have been missing about a decade. gina dejesus was last seen on april 2nd, 2004. michele knight had been missing since august 22nd, 2002. the cleveland division of pligs and our law enforcement partners which includes the fbi, sheriffs office, u.s. marshals office remain committed to these investigations over the years. through our involvement with the northern ohio violent fugitive task force led by the cleveland office of the fbi, we have continued to investigate any and all leads in these cases. these leads came in over years and were investigated time and again. possible suspects were interviewed, search warrants were executed. thankfully, and i mean thankfully, due to amanda's brave actions these three women are alive today. three men have been arrested in

this case and they are ariel castro, 52 years old, a brother pedro, 54 years old, and another brother o'neill, 50 years old. the original task force will now continue to follow up investigation relative to the recovery of and processing of the scene, interviewing and the investigation. next steps, there's ten years of logistical information that has to be sorted through. numerous interviews have to be completed. the fbi evidence recovery team is processing the scene. they worked until 5:00 a.m. this morning. they will regroup later this morning. and i anticipate it it will take a few days to completely process the scene there on seymour. most importantly, though, the vick item's physical and emotional well-being are the main concern and have to be

addressed. the fbi is providing assistance and special agent steve anthony will provide information relative to the debriefing of the victims. mr. anthony? >> thank you, chief. good morning, everyone. chief steve anthony, fbi. for amanda's family, for gina's family, for michele's family, prayers have finally been answered. the nightmare is over. these three young ladies have provided us with the ultimate definition of survival and press veerns. the healing can now begin. every evening year after year, family members in law enforcement kept the faith that one day they might see their daughters, their sisters, their nieces again. monday evening that happened.

the fbi's violent crime task force, and particularly the men and women of the cleveland police department have pursued every tip and have stood with the families each step of the way. the families of these three young ladies never gave up hope and neither did law enforcement. as you can imagine, words can't describe the emotions being felt by all. yes, law enforcement professionals do cry. we rejoice with those families in the homecoming of the three ladies where i'm sure they will be showered with much love and many, many hugs. but has been said while we celebrate today, we and our law enforcement partners continue to work shoulder to shoulder with the cleveland police department to answer the many questions, the many questions that investigators have. and rest assured the fbi will bring every resource to bear to assist our partners in this case to bring the full weight of justice behind those responsible

for this horrific, horrific case. and has been said, i know the public and you all have many questions and so do we. until we have the answers to those questions, based on facts and evidence, we won't be able to speculate as to the how and why. just want to reiterate in this case, all of us standing up here rely on the public's assistance to resolve these horrific cases. if you have any information, police contact cleveland's division of the fbi at 216-522-1400. that is again 216-522-1400. it can't be emphasized enough. this is an ongoing investigation. in the coming days and weeks, investigators will be putting in countless hours to track the events of the last several years.

as the chief mentioned, the three women, much of the effort over the next several days will be focusing on them. how could we in law enforcement help speed the healing and the recovery process and treat them with the dignity and respect that they deserve? and we're going to be providing not just the three but their families. again, with comfort, with advice, with information in the coming days to help in that process. part of that we have a special team of child forensic examiners that will be arriving this morning to help in that process in addition to numerous victim witness specialists, similar to those that have been sent to events such as in boston. thank you very much.

>> thank you. at this time we'll take a few questions. however, prior to, i would like to reiterate this is an open and ongoing investigation. we. to be sensitive to not only the investigation but the family members and the victims. and i ask that when you ask your question, you identify yourself and identify the media outlet that you're with. >> is there any evidence that this is part of a larger operation or is this focused just here? >> right now, it's not. but we are aware of any type of national implications. that's why we're working so closely with the fbi. we briefed last night and we reminded the investigators not to forget about that.

that it possibly could be something that is outside of cleveland. but as of right now, we have no indication that it's bigger than our neighborhood here. >> were these girls held as sex slaves? >> that hasn't been determined. i have to tell you that we are very, very careful with the interview process last night. that's going to be an ongoing process today when we have our expert come in from the fbi. they are going to do in-depth interviews and i'm sure as time goes by, there will be more information that will be provided from those young ladies as to exactly what took place. >> are the castros subject to new other investigations? >> the one brother was and it was a report that the director mentioned before about inadvertently leaving a young

man on the bus. the investigation was conducted and there was no criminal evidence found. >> if your child was left on a bus, was there special questioning? why wasn't this it guy questioned about this? and do you change your protocol? >> number one, he was interviewed extensively relative to this complaint that we had. he was not a suspect in any other complaint. this was a -- he was a bus driver who ined a ver tenially left a kid on a bus, went for a lunch skbraek found the man. number two, our policies are solid. our policies have been revamped over the last few years. we're constantly looking at those policies in a way to

improve them. number three, i can tell you as being part of this division for the last 28 years and being very, very involved in this over the last ten years that the amount of effort, the amount of leads, the amount of work hours and dedication that went into this, i have never seen it it before over last ten years. every single lead was followed up no matter how small. as a lot of you know in this room, we dug up a couple backyards. we recanvassed neighborhoods. we had vigils. we participated in national missing children's day along with the fbi. so our goal was to get them back sauf saufly. the real hero here is amanda. she's the real hero. she's the one that got this rolling. you know, we're following her lead. without her, none of us would be here today. >> did castro own any other properties and are you going to

search those properties? and what was the shape of this house? any signs they were locked up or chains? >> there are other properties that we're interested in. yes, that is true. we focused on the house on seymour last night until the early hours of morning. we're going to go back. i have not entered the house. that is an active crime scene. the only people that entered that house is the evidence recovery team of the fbi. before that evidence is processed, we haven't seen photos. we haven't discussed anything with them. that's their protocols. that's their crime scene. they are going to handle it. [ inaudible ]

>> that child in the house, is that what you're asking about? yes, we belief that is amanda's daughter. >> what about the father? >> you want to answer that? >> subject of ongoing. >> can you share with us a little bit about how the women were held in the house, whether they were locked in a room or how they were held captive? >> i can't get into that because that is -- they are going to have to tell us that. obviously, there was a long period of time where nobody saw them. so we have to wait until we interview them and hopefully they are going to tell us exactly what went on in there. they were the only ones there along with the suspects. so that's a difficult question to answer. >> have you guys spoken to the mother of the three?

what's their involvement? >> we spoke with her. last night i can tell you a little investigative update. we canvassed numerous parts of the lower west side of the city. we were. out on a couple streets. we have gotten ahold of all of family members and interviewed them. what those discussions were i'm not at liberty to release that right now. we're going to have an investigative briefing internally later today to find out some of the the results, but we have talked to all family, friends and we're going to continue to do that. >> we don't. amanda is the key to that. like i said, you can only imagine the scene last night at the hospital with the family and the friends. it was chaotic. we really didn't divulge -- we

didn't get into a deep, deep line of questioning. our concern -- our first and foremost concern was their physical and mental well-being. that's going to come out, but as of today, i couldn't tell you. >> do you know if -- we heard from the neighbor. the there was a lock on the door. do you know if there was other locks beyond the door lock that there were other ways they were kept inside the house? >> no, i done. all i know is amanda broke out the bottom of the door to get out. so obviously the door was secured. but exactly how it was. >> you're still investigating whether there were calls from neighbors to that home. you were called there twice but you don't know for a fact if a neighbor had ever called to report. >> we've looked at all the calls for service. we also checked this morning with county partners for the

wireless system. we don't have any indications that any incoming calls for service, allegations, tips or information was received from any other source or any other neighbors. i can confirm that. however, we will continue to check all our data bases to confirm that as we move forward. but our initial review indicates clearly that nothing was provided to the city of cleveland from any of the neighbors that live on that e street or anywhere else regarding the activities at that home. >> i can tell you from what i saw the physical condition, i'm not a medical person. i know metro briefed last night, but they seemed to be in fatherly good health. look the at them, there was no outward signs. they needed a good meal, but

that's something i'd have to refer to metro as far as their medical condition. what was the second part? >> michele knight, what's her story? >> her story is she hasn't been seen in over 11 years. that story is going to come out. she spoke a little bit with us last night. out of respect for her, what these young girls went through and if you would have saw them last night, you'd have nothing but compassion and love in your heart for them. so as far as investigations, we believe we have three subpoenas. we're going to charge those suspects. we believe we have people responsible for that. so right now, you know, we want to let them spend some time with their family and take this process very, very, very slow and respectful to their families and to the young girl's needs. that will be something that is up to the prosecutor.

our policy here in the city of cleveland, we gather the facts. we are mandated to charge within 36 hours of an arrest, which we wi will. we are mandated to see a prosecutor. they will review the facts and it will be up to the prosecutor to charge. i would anticipate that this case be heard by a grand jury. when those charges come out of the grand jury, you'll know exactly what's going on. >> right now, behaven't interviewed them. i keep referring back to the three young ladies. they are the ones that are going to lead us down that path as to exactly what happened and how they ended up with these guys and how they ended up in that house. but the three are under arrest. they will be afforded their constitutional rights, but we

are going to attempt to talk to them. >> absolutely. amanda is the one. she came out of the house and that started it all. >> you mentioned earlier -- when was the last time you had a lead and were you working them as abductions or runaways? >> can you repeat that question? >> when was the last time you had the leads? and were you working those cases as abductions or runaways? >> we were working them as abductions and we were receiving tips and leads periodically throughout this 12-year period. so i can't quantify exactly --

we could get that for you and maybe the latest series of tips, but we review them regularly with the family. and as the chief mentioned, we dug up two locations believing we had evidence based on information developed that they were in a particular location. so any investigation like this, it's going to ebb and flow. as far as how many leads you're getting, but not a year went by that we didn't have some e lead generated by the family or by the public. >> none of those tips. >> one did. the one's driver's license was that address on seymour. so we assume he lived there.

>> which one was that? >> ariel. the other two had different addresses on the lower west side. >> do you believe this is how he gained amanda and gina's trust? did he drive them to school? >> we don't have any evidence of that, that that's how it was. but that's up to the girls to tell us. we still don't know. that is one of the great unknowns right now. we anticipate getting that information from the ladies, not from the suspects. >> can you tell us more? most of us know about gina dejesus and amanda berry but we don't know much about michele's disappearance. >> i can't tell you the exact date but michele is a young lady that was reported missing over 11 years ago. and she was the focus of very

few tips and leads that we the got. most of the media and most of the community awareness was for the young ladies. she was 20 years old when she left, but most of it was geared towards the two young girls. >> was she taken from the same area? >> i'll try and provide a little additional information on michele knight. she was last seen august 22nd of 2002. she was 20 at the time of her disappearance. she's now age 32. her last address here in the city of cleveland was on walton avenue. the last time she was seen in 2002 was at west 106 lorraine avenue. the missing persons report was made the following day a family member. so she's been misting since 2002. >> the other two brothers, are they married? >> we don't know.

we're going to take two more questions and then wrap it up. >> did the girls say they do -- >> that's still a matter of the investigation. >> where were they found in the house after amanda got out? >> they actually came out of the house once the police approached and got into the residence. but amanda was the one that came out on to the street. amanda was the one that generated the 911 call. a zone car responded along with a couple detectives and they came out of the house. they didn't have to go in house looking for them. >> they were not constrained? >> no, they came out on their own. >> the house is a crime scene. it's going to be processed. but she came out of the lower part of the front door.

it's a screen door. there's a e lower part of it it. that's what she broke out and crawled out of the door. >> are the girls in a safe place now? >> yes, they are. >> president obama saud we're not all strangers, what does it say? not about the police, just in general about the city? >> i'm a lifelong city resident myself. it just reiterates from city hall on down through the division of police that it's a partnership between a community and law enforcement. during the course of this investigation we're going to look and we're going to see if there was something maybe the community did miss or there was something. it's going to be part of an ongoing review and an

educational process. but it's quite a challenge. we balance that right for everybody's privacy to what law enforcement is doing. so i don't have a pad answer for that. i just know that, you know, i know i can count on my law enforcement partners and friends. we need to count on our community. that's so, so important. like i said, we can't stress that enough. that comes all the way down from our mayor down to our chief about how important members of our community is. >> we're going to close out with the chief of police mike mcgrath saying a couple words. i want to e remind you that the division and the fbi will make updates either via press release or press conferences depending upon the information. >> first of all, thanks for being here. and most important and i stressed it in my few comments are the victims. sensitivity to the victims, their emotional well-being. that's what we're going o

address first. after we get that stabilized we will move forward with debriefing process. so we need your cooperation on some of your questions because some of the questions may impact their emotions. the their state of mind currently right now. so you'll have to be patient with us as we proceed over next couple days, the next couple weeks, possibly a month with this investigation. thank you. >> thank you. >> we're going to step away from the the news conference being held in ohio. precious information came out of this. this was what i was able to glean for you. the most sad and most expected is that that 6-year-old girl taken out of the house with amanda berry, she escaped that house carrying this child. police confirmed that it 6-year-old girl is amanda berry's child. when asked if police knew who the father of the little girl was, they said we're still investigating that part of the

story. police also said there were no calls by neighbors on this particular house on seymour since 2006. they got no calls. they also said in january of 2004 the suspect in the case, the man who owns the house, his name is ariel castro, he was a bus driver for the city schools. he was investigated for leaving a child on a school bus in the depot. police concluded at that time no intent was concluded, so he wasn't charged with anything. there was no evidence to charge him with anything at least according to police. they will be probably be re-examining that case. the other thing we gleaned is the other two women being held captive came out of the house walking meaning they were not e restra restrained. we do not know that. police just said the two women came out of house by themselves.

we have team coverage of the story from every single angle. martin is in cleveland. mark class is a child safety advocate. and jeff gar deer is a psychologist. mary o'tool is a former profueler for the fbi. she will join us on the phone. one of the big questions right now centers on the man arrested in connection with the case. brian cummings, a cleveland councilman who represents the ward where amanda was found, identified that man as ariel castro. police also arrested his two brothers, but the 52-year-old ariel does own the house. according to the dealer, castro was arrested at a nearby mcdonald's. they have not been charged, but we do know castro is a former school bus driver. but a spokeswoman doesn't know how long he was there or whether he left voluntarily or whether he was fired. ariel castro's facebook page shows he loves guitar. it's the last post on his

facebook page was dated may 2nd where he wrote "miracles really do happen. god is good." ariel's uncle julio castro is with martin in that cleveland neighborhood. martin, was the uncle able to listen to the news conference at all? >> reporter: we were. and i'm joined right now by julio castro, he's the uncle. we both listened to the news conference. for the first time authorities have identified the other men in custody. they include pedro castro and o'neill castro. that's in addition to ariel cast k ro. they are all your nephews. is that right? >> yes. >> reporter: what is your reaction to all of this that was happening apparently in your nephew's home? >> stunning. it's stunning. it's stunning for the whole neighborhood. >> reporter: did you have any

idea, any clue this was going on? >> no, none whatsoever. >> when was the last time you spoke to ariel? >> i would say about five or six years ago, i can't recall exactly. i'm a grocery store owner and they have a lot of people coming and going. you don't hear from them. >> reporter: you weren't in close touch with them? >> not lately. >> but at that time even six years ago according to authorities, those women were being held in his home on this street. >> so i understand. >> reporter: and he gave you no indication? >> no indication whatsoever. >> none of the other nephews gave you indication? >> none of the other family members. >> reporter: so i mean, it has to be difficult for your family. a mixture of good news in that

the young girls are rescued, but bad news because now your family members stand accused. >> that is very correct. >> reporter: what's the family's reaction? >> i haven't been able to talk to immediate family other than by phone. their reaction is surprising. everybody is surprised of what's happening. >> reporter: what would you say to your nephews if you could talk to them? what would you want to know? >> what can i say? shame on you. >> reporter: this whole neighborhood, your store just practically on the corner of this street, everyone here, how is it possible for a decade or more those women can be held with no one really knowing? >> especially the neighbors

across the street from the house. those people lived there forever? >> reporter: you don't think anybody had any idea? >> according to them, they said they had no clue, no idea, nothing. >> reporter: did the neighbors, as far as you know, ever call police and say you thought there are women being held here? >> not to my knowledge. >> reporter: and your nephews never saud anything to you? never gave you any indication? never saw them with a young child? >> no. >> reporter: how do you think the family is going to cope with this now? what do you do? >> of course, we are a large family. we realize when there's a large family with we have to have a little of everything. >> reporter: do you worry there could be a backlash against your family?

>> i'm sure people understand that there's a -- what do they call that? a bad one in every family. but the rest of the family had had nothing to do with it. >> reporter: and your feelings now one day afterwards? >> my feelings are divided. i'm happy because we found the girl girls. >> reporter: you looked for these girls? >> i always had my ear and eye open. the mother of gina. >> reporter: you have been in this community over 40 years. this would have been something you were aware of? >> correct. >> reporter: then to find out one of your family members was

responsible. >> that's something ungrateful, very big. i think it's about the biggest thing that could ever happen to me. >> reporter: mr. castro, thank you very much. >> we are people of faith and we have hope that saints can get back together for both of the families. and i'm sorry about the other girls' mother who passed about four years ago. i understand she passed a broken heart because of missing of her daughter. i apologize that one of my family members had something to do with it. >> reporter: thank you for taking time to talk with us today. back to you. >> martin, just maybe a last

question, i know he has to go. did ariel castro have a job? >> the only job i knew of was driving the bus, the school bus. >> reporter: the school bus job with city of cleveland. which the city has not confirmed it it. there's some question about whether e he left the child on the bus. that goes back to 2004. but you don't know of any other jobs? >> no. >> you don't know how he got his income or how he lived? >> no. i know when his father passed, left him a lot of money. left the whole family a lot of money. >> reporter: thank you, sir. there are a lot of questions, carol. >> a lot of questions. thank you very much for talking with us this morning. we appreciate it. martin, i wondered if you could show us the house? i don't know if you're close enough. are all the windows coffered with blinds? can you see in that house at

all? >> reporter: you can. if you look, you'll see the house in the background. you can see that from your vantage point. as you look at that house, you can tell that if you look full on that all the blinds are drawn. so the front of the house looks very close. neighbors say that's one of reasons they weren't sure anybody lived in the house because you can't see much. then on the side you may notice that one of the windows is actually boarded up. so that house certainly does not look like somebody is living in it right now. >> maybe just another question for julio. during the news conference police say they are investigating other properties. does julio know if ariel owned any other the properties? >> reporter: did your nephew own my other the properties besides this one? >> no, no. not that i know of. >> reporter: this was the only

home you knew he owned? >> all right, thank you very m. i want to bring in mary ellen o'actual, one of the most senior profilers for the fbi until her retirement. she joins us from milan, italy, by phone. thank you for being with us this morning. we appreciate this. >> you're welcome. >> this is such an odd case. it just defies belief that one man was able to hold three women captive for a decade and nobody really noticed. what kind of man would -- what kind of man would want to do that? would do that? >> my sense is what we're looking at based on other cases that i have worked is this is someone who would be defined or characterized as a sexual sadist, and a sexual sadist is a very unusual individual, and

they're motivated by keeping their victims for days, weeks, months, or years the definition is they are aroused by the victim's response to the infliction of physical or emotional pain. we've had cases like this in the past. we've had cases where the victims have been kept under the bed, in a bunker. again, it's unusual, but when i'm hearing all the details that are coming out, i would suspect there's a good possibility that this is someone who is very sexually sadistic. it does not mean that he is crazy. so i want to make sure that people understand that. this is a sexual deviant. it's a very, very dangerous sexual deviancy. >> police are also investigating two of his brothers. would this sort of person have needed help concealing his

crimes for such a long period of time? >> someone that has this disorder would serm be able to commit these crimes by themselves. why he would engage his brother, it's certainly going to be interesting, but it could be because i think once you get inside that home, there's going to be a lot of customization inside that home. by that i mean they're going to be hidden rooms, hidden doorways, those kinds of things, and he may have brought his brothers in to help him with that. the real question is were they involved in his criminal behavior with him. it's less usual to see two sexual sadists working together. it does happen. time is going to tell just the degree of involvement twot brothers had with him. >> the other question -- there was a 6-year-old girl involved,

and that 6-year-old girl was confirmed by police to be the daughter of amanda bearry, one of the women held captive. neighbors told our martin savage that they often saw -- i don't know if often, but they at least saw aerial castro a couple of times taking a child outside for a walk. what does that tell you about him? >> this is someone who is very self-assured. this is someone who is very air gapt because he feels fine, stress-free carrying out these crimes under the noses of his neighbors. people like that tend to think they're smarter than their neighbors, and he has also been doing this for at least nine or ten years and has never been caught. he has this sense of being almost untouchable. the real concern and the real question is he may have been seen walking with this little girl, and he may, in fact, be the father of that little girl, but someone who is sexually sadistic, if he is, in fact, the

father, also very likely that he is a psychopath. not a sociopath, but a psychopath, but if that's true they view their children as objects or possessions. what you may see at first blush is not what's going on here in terms of what he could be doing to that little girl inside that home. >> oh. mary ellen o't tool, thank you very much. for nearly 20 years mark klopf has focused on protecting children after his daughter poly was kidnapped and murdered. he is live in san francisco for us, and we heard during the press conference, mark, that police are working hard to stabilize the victims. they don't want to ask them too many hard-core questions right now. can you take us through why? >> well, sure. it's wonderful that they're being sensitive to the needs of the victims because historically that's not always been the case. these women, girls, have been through an incredible amount of

trauma over the course of the last decade, things that they probably will not be able to reconcile through the rest of their lives. there's been an awful lot of trauma. there's been an awful lot of assault. there's no question about that. people don't commit these kinds of crimes unless it's for some sort of sexual gratification. that's what this is about. some kind of a predator. i think we have to be really careful that they need to maintain the gruesome details for themselves. that's not our business. that's not your business. that's something that needs to be between these girls, their god, and their counselors, and perhaps their law enforcement agents because their road to recovery is going to be extremely difficult, and we have to be very careful as to the way they're treated and offer them our support, offer them our love and our prayers. >> do we have jeff here on the

line? jeff is a psychologist, and i just want to ask a follow-up question and follow-up to what mark said. police also said that reporters have to be careful of the questions they put to police. why is that? >> well, because we don't want to retraumaize these victims, and mark is absolutely correct. those gruesome details are between themselves, their god, and certainly their therapists, and those therapists are going to work with police officers to be as sensitive as possible to not just debrief them and get them to talk about what happened, but to also process this in a clinical way, and it is going take years for them to get through this trauma, but the quicker they can get them to debrief and talk about what happened, the better the prognosis will be. >> and, mark, i wanted to ask you about one of the mothers. i believe it was amanda barry's mother. she died of heart failure.

this moerp died of heart familiure. her family said she died of a broken heart. that's just -- that just tears you up. >> it's so horrible. listen, i have been through this. you start out when your child is initially missing, thinking that it will be resolved within just a few hours. that extends to a weekend, a week, a month. then it just sometimes extends on to eternity, and as time goes on, your hope diminishes to the point where finally you've got maybe just a thread of hope, and maybe her thread broke. the fact that she died of a broken heart is just a horrible, horrible thing, and it's too bad that this creep and his brothers can't be charged with that crime because there are so many crimes involved in this. these guys have done so many horrible things that, unfortunately, justice will

truly never be served. >> all right. let's talk to paige pate about justice. he is a defense attorney. he joins us too. police said they're going to bring up arial castro on -- >> it's interesting that the fbi has been investigate this case, and i suspect they will continue to assist the state authority. however, to have a federal kidnapping crime you have to have an interstate nexus. in other words, these guys needed to take them across state lines. >> i think it's very early in the investigation. the more we find out about approximate what went on inside of that house with these girls, unfortunately, the facts that we uncover may lead to additional charges. maybe sex charges. the federal government does have authority to step in even in a purely state situation if there's sex offenses. >> you have tried a lot of cases.

i don't know. is it logical to think that aerial castro allegedly did all of these things by himself for a decade? >> i don't think so. i think that's very hard to imagine. we also need to remember that even if the brothers weren't directly involved in committing the offenses, if they didn't touch the girls, if they didn't have any involvement in bringing the girls to the house they can still be charged. >> you sat here and listened that news conference held by the cleveland police. they insist they did all they could through the years to find these girls. they said they questioned suspects. they dug up properties. they -- they participated in vigils. in your mind did they do all they could? >> well, patrolman not all they could have done. i mean, we've seen now after the boston case that if law enforcement really wants to canvas a community, they can do that. we found that these girls were so close to where they were

taken. had law enforcement put on 100% of their effort and went house to house, it's possible they could have been found earlier, sure. >> because the house was not far from where these girls were abducted. >> that's right. but there's always that -- how much are we going to invade people's privacy? do we really go let's head outside house to house every time there's a missing person? hindsight is always 2020. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> the next hour of cnn newsroom starts now. >> good morning. thank you so much for being with us. this morning we're following a remarkable and horrifying story that is still unfolding. here's what we know. adairing escape leads to the rescue of three women, all three vanished nine years ago in separate disappearances. all three were just teenagers. gina devices was last seen in 2004 when she was 14 years old. michelle knight was 19 when she

disappeared in 2002, and amanda barry went missing in 2003 on the eve of her 17th birthday. it was barry who escaped from that home, who called 911, ultimately leading to the rescue of the other women. >> our prayers have finally been answered. the nightmare is over. these three young ladies have provided us with the ultimate definition of survival and perseverance. the healing can now begin. every evening year after year as you well know family members and law enforcement kept the faith that one day they might see their daughters, their sisters, and their nieces again. monday evening that happened. the fbi crime task force as the chief and mayor mentioned and particularly the men and women of the cleveland police department had pursued every tip and have stood with the families each step of the way. the families of these three

young ladies never gave up hope. neither did law enforcement. as you can imagine, words can't describe the emotions being felt by all. yes, law enforcement professionals do cry. >> the hero at the center of this drama, amanda barry. here she is at the hospital last night. she's in the middle. she's with her sister, and beside her, her possible motivation. in a news conference that ended just minutes ago police did confirm that this little girl, 6 years old, was taken from that house with amanda barry and it's her daughter. no word on who the father is. police are still investigating that part of the story. martin savage is in that cleveland neighborhood where this all went down. bring us up-to-date. >> yeah, carol. i mean, there was just so much. we talk about the news conference that was held by authorities there, and you had the fbi that's now involved. they were saying that they now have specialists, fbi specialists, that are on scene in that house and that they are

doing the evidence gathering, and they said that is probably -- i think they called it -- that's something that's probably going to go on for several days because there are so many questions. the mayor said it. the fbi said it. because the mayor, as he points out, they want to know why were these girls targeted in the first place? how was it that they were taken and then how is it that they weren't discovered for ten years? all credit is given, as you heard from the authorities, to amanda barry, because they say had she not broken free, then none of them would be free at this moment. here's the story. >> michelle knight disappeared when she was 19. that was 2002. amanda barry disappeared the day before her 17th birthday. that was 2003. gina dejesus disappeared when she was 14. that was 2004. then monday evening their decade-long nightmare ended when amanda barry made an emotional 911 call to police. >> help me. i'm amanda barry. >> do you need police, fire, or ambulance? >> i need police.

>> okay. what's going on there? >> i have been kidnapped and i've been missing for ten years, and i'm here. i'm free now. >> okay. what's your address? >> 207 seymour avenue. >> 207 seymour. >> huh? i can't hear you. >> looks like you were calling from 2210 seymour. >> i'm using their phone. >> stay with those neighbors and i'll tell you when they get there. >> okay. call for police when they get there. >> okay. hello. >> yes, talk to the police when they get there. >> okay. are they on their way right now? >> we're going to -- >> no, need them now before he gets back. >> all right. we're sending them. okay? >> okay. >> who is the guy you're -- who is the guy who went out? >> his name is aerial castro. >> okay. how old is he? >> he is, like, 52.

>> all right. >> i'm amanda berry. i've been in the news for the last ten years. >> okay. i got that. >> and you said what was his name again? >> aerial castro. >> is he white, black, or hispanic? >> hispanic. >> what's he wearing? >> i don't know because he is not here right now. he went away. >> when left, what was he wearing? the police are on their way. talk to them when they get there. >> i need -- okay. >> i told you they're on their way. talk to them when they get there. okay? >> okay. bye. >> she made that call after she was able to look out of the house without being held and flag down a neighbor. >> i am eating my mcdonald's. i come outside. i see this girl going nuts trying to get out of the house, so i go on the porch. i go on the porch, and she said help me get out. i've been in here a long time. i figured it was a domestic violence dispute, so i open the door, and we can't get in that

way because how the door is it's so much that a body can't fit through. only your hand. so we kick the bottom, and she comes out with the little girl, and she says call 911. my name is amanda berry. >> did you know who that was when she said that? >> when she told me, it didn't register until i got to calling 911, and then i'm calling the 911 for amanda why berry. i thought this girl was dead. you know what i mean? she got on the phone, and she said, yes, this is me. the girl amanda told the police i ain't just the only one. there's more girls up in that house. they're going up there, you know, 30, 40, and when they came out, it was astonishing. >> the police moved in swarming the house rescuing the women. they arrested 52-year-old former school bus driver who lives there, aerial castro. they also arrested his two brothers. >> they made some statements to the responding officers that gave us enough probable cause to affect their arrest. >> reporter: the rescued women were taken to a nearby hospital

and checked out. a photo of a beaming amanda berry and her sister appeared on facebook. >> currently they're safe. we're in the process of ooel waiting their medical needs. they appear to be in fair condition at the moment. this is really good because this isn't the ending we usually get in these stories, so we're very happy. >> that sense of happiness and relief shared by police. >> it's a great -- it's a great day. >> reporter: and the people of cleveland. >> it's an unbelievable day. >> all right. we're going to get back to martin savidge. he is going to talk to more neighbors in that cleveland neighborhood where these women were found. we'll get to him in just a minute. a statement from jaycee dugard. she was held for so many years captive after she was abducted when she was 11 and she was released when she was an adult. this is the statement she just

released moments ago. "these individuals need the opportunity to heal and connect back into the world. this isn't who they are. it's only what happened to them. "the human spirit is incredibly resilient. more than ever they reamps we should never give up hope." one of the big questions right now centers on the man arrested in the case. his name is aerial castro. police also arrested his two brothers, but say the 52-year-old owns the house where these women were found. according to the cleveland dealer castro was arrested at a nearby mcdonald's. castro and his brothers have not yet been charged are, but we do know that he is a former school bus driver. a spokesman for the school district does not know how long castro worked there or whether he left voluntarily or whether he was fired. castro's facebook page shows his love of guitars. his last post was dated may 2nd, just a few days ago, where he wrote "miracles really do happen. god is good." a frantic call to 911 for help

came from amanda berry. she escaped the house with the help of a neighbor and called police. >> help me. i'm amanda berry. i've been kidnapped and i've been missing for ten years, and i'm here. i'm free now. >> mark has dedicated his life to protecting children after his own 12-year-old daughter was kidnapped in 1993 and murdered. he joins me now, and i see you shaking your head as you listen to that 911 call. >> well, you know, the sun is going to shine a little brighter on the united states of america today because of amanda's actions during that phone call. you can hear the emotion in her voice. this is ten years. this is a decade of pent-up fear and frustration that's being released all in one moment. it's absolutely extraordinary, but, carol, i would like to -- in defense of law enforcement, i just like to say that this kind of a crime is one of the most

difficult crimes there is to solve. particularly when the offender has no kind of a police record. this guy seems to have descended out of hell on three separate occasions and snatched these girls and somehow found a way to restrain them for the last decade. i think until we hear more information we have to be cognizant of that fact and not be too critical of the way that law enforcement handled this in the past, is handling it now and are terminal continue to handle this case in the future. >> you're right about that. throughs that news conference, the police assured the community that there were no police calls to that house since 2006. no trouble at all, and the only trouble that this ariel castro had. he left a child on the bus. they investigate and had no charges against him, and that was about it. >> how creepy is it that this --

i was going to say how creepy is it that this character has got a job where he is surrounded by children on a daily basis. it's just makes your skin crawl. everything about this guy makes your skin crawl. >> you're not kidding. as far as police know right now, while he was a bus driver, they don't know if he came to know the women that way or not. they're still investigating that part of the story. i also wanted to ask you about the 911 calls because neighbors in cleveland are really upset about how the 911 dispatcher handled the call. i'm going to realed you the end of it. you heard the panic in amanda berry's voice, right? this is the dispatcher, and i'm just going to read the transcript from the end of the call. dispatcher, when he left, the suspect, what was he wearing? amanda is, like who knows? dispatcher, the police are on their way. talk to them when they get there. amanda says, what? okay. the dispatcher then says i told you they're on their way. talk to them when they get there, okay? and then it was all right, okay,

bye, and the dispatcher hung up. a lot of people are upset about that. they say that the dispatcher should have stayed on the phone with amanda berry. >> i agree. i think that the dispatcher should have stayed on the phone, but, again, in their defense, 911 call centers receive thousands of calls on a regular basis. i mean, we've seen cases where they're over extended and sometimes the call centers go down. oftentimes when people call 911, they're in a very emotionally distraught frame of mind, so i'm sure that as part of the training for the dispatcher to disassociate emotionally from the call. that having been said, given the high nature of this case who this girl was, where this occurred, i think it would have been to their advantage to stay -- their advantage to stay -- >> we've got to get to this press conference one of the women consist kidnapped. >> i also have another family

member who just got out of the hospital yesterday from an aneurism, and i don't want her to go back. this is two miracles in two weeks. i am begging, begging everyone just to support our family by not crowding us. give us air to breathe, and we promise we will give you at the right time all the information that you guys can have. >> how is she doing? >> i will tell you this because i was there to see her. all three girls -- god works in mysterious ways. you would never -- i mean, it's just unbelievable. unbelievable. these girls -- these women are so strong. stronger than i am. i will tell you that much. they all have a positive attitude. this is what we need from everyone. we need to still be fame. neighborhood with neighborhood. we need to watch out for all

kids. really. watch who your neighbor is because you never know. okay? it's like, i'll tell you, when i came from puerto rico everybody said i'm telling your mom, i seen you, i seen you. this is how we have to be again. we have to take care of everybody's children, and god has blessed us by bringing all three of those girls, all of them back. >> where were you when you found o out. >> i'm going to be honest. god has been givening me signs two weeks in a row. one for my sister to leave work, go home, to get to her for her to make it for her to survive, and yesterday i said i was leaving work at 5:00, and they said go ahead, and not even as i got into my driveway people were telling me go down there, go down there, and i did, and i kind of knew right then and there when i passed the yellow caution tape and they're telling me stay away because they know

who the family is. it was -- i'm telling you, god works in mysterious ways. he is looking out for us. my mom's tenth year anniversary of her passing away. everything is in circle. if you don't believe in miracles, i suggest you think again because it does happen. [ speaking spanish ] [ speaking spanish ]

>> just sow know what's going on, this is a news conference. this is gina dejesus's aunt, and she's holding a press conference in cleveland saying her family is fine, but she wants the media to just give her family some peace -- back in english. let's go back. >> she kept -- she had the strength. that's, you know -- i give her -- i don't know how she did it. if it was my daughter, i don't know. she's my niece, and i -- i survive day by day with god. [ speaking spanish ] [. >> shs gina dejesus's aunt. she's thanking god that gina was

found alive, but, of course, gina is going through a lot right now. jooes gina was abducted when she was just 14 years old, in 2004. she was walking home from school. at the time gina's mother was convinced that she was abducted for human trafficking. that's what she said all those years ago. all those years, at least police believe at this point, she was kidnapped by a man named ariel castro and held captive by him all these years until amanda berry, another woman allegedly kidnapped by the same man, escaped from the house, called 911, and she was the reason all of these women were freed. let's go back to the press conference right now. >> those girls, those women are so strong. what we do out here, what we have done in ten years is nothing compared to what those women have done. together they survived. that's it. i need to go take care of my

sister. sandra ruiz. thank you very much. >> you can see these going to go back to gina's mother because, of course, gina's mother needs her a lot more than we all do. you heard her say that the women banded together in that house and helped one another survive. we'll bring in psychologist jeff and talk about this because i'm sure no one can imagine going through something like this except maybe for jaycee dugard. jaycee dugard was alone until she had her child. >> yes, yes. well, it is incredible that they did survive, but that talks to the human spirit. that we do have the coping mechanisms that get us through these traumas. whether with some sort of disassociation or some sort of repression or suppression as to what was going on. perhaps in their own way cooperating so that they wouldn't be killed, they were able to do it, and that's what

investigators, therapists will be talking to them about, and then help them evolve those coping mechanisms to be able to integrate that into the outside world because for what we know right now perhaps these women had not seen the light of day, being able to walk outside even if they were being suppressed by that individual for over ten years. >> just unbelievable. we also heard sandra ruiz is her name, she's gina dejesus's aunt. she also said she can't believe the incredible strength these women are showing. >> absolutely. these women had resiliency, they were strong. they were able to make it through. at the same time because they were so focused on their survival and whatever horrific scenes were going on and, carol, i can tell you for them to -- for no one to know that they were there, it was not just physical or possible sexual abuse.

we're also talking about mind control. we're also talking about possibly torture here. these women now have to be able to transition out of that survival mode and now be able to increase or develop their social skills to be able to be back into the world. the reality of this outside world. what was going on in that home was certainly far, far from reality. that was a world that was horrific. >> i want to go to poppy harlow now. she was at that press conference. does the dejesus family live far from where this suspect lives? i was just curious, poppy. >> that's something that we don't know at this time exactly in terms of location and don't want to speculate on. i did ask the brother ricardo dejesus who is the older brother of gina, and he didn't want to comment. i'm actually about to do an

interview with him on camera, but before we do that i wanted to tell our viewers, i mean, everyone just heard that press conference with sandra, the aunt of gina. gina's mother. she says believe in miracles and know your neighbors. watch out for your neighbors. that really stood with me. ricardo, the 33-year-old brother of gina, says he saw his sister last night after coming home seeing the news, went to the hospital, saw gina, and said she was both surprised ask happy, of course, elated at the same time, but also sort of shocked that this had all happened, that they had been rescued. he said he kept hugging her, hugging her, talking to her while and he his family were at the hospital over 200 people came to the family home where i am right now. he said i thought it was still a dream because it had been so long. now i asked the brother, carol,

if he knows ariel castro. he said yes. he had not seen him over the past ten years since his sister was abducted wrrn i asked how his parents are doing. how are the parents of gina dejesus doing. he said that nancy and felix, their names, he said that they were crying. they were hugging, of course, their daughter. they were happy. i asked him, you know, you're her older brother. do you feel even more protective of her now? he said i'm not letting anything happen to her again. we're about to talk to him for an on camera interview. i'm going to go do that. i just wanted to tell you -- >> before you go, poppy, poppy, did you say that the dejesus family knew ariel castro? >> i can tell you that the brother told me -- the man ricardo, dejesus, said when he was younger he knew ariel castro. he wouldn't go into specifics, and he said he had not seen him

in the last ten years. >> are they puerto rican because there is a puerto rican community in cleveland, and i just wondered if that's the connection. >> this is a puerto rican community here in cleveland. i can't speak exactly for the families if they're puerto rican or not. i don't want to make any assumptions. they did say, yes, that is puerto rican community. >> poppy, i'll let you go you so can interview the brother. thank you very much, poppy. do we still have jeff nearby? >> yes. >> wow. so supposedly according to the brother of gina dejesus when he was a child, he is 33 years old right now, he knew this ariel castro. i don't know what conclusions we can draw, but it's just eerie. >> it truly is. hindsight is 20-20. i don't want to criticize law enforcement here, but i think questions are going to start to come up because one of the things you do in an

investigation -- as you know i have worked as a forensic psychologist for many years. you have to look at the sphere of influence. you have to be able to go in and interview whovrn may have known this family. we don't know whether that happened or whether that was done in a thorough enough way, and as we saw with the boston marathon bombing, cops went door to door, house to house. i think even the families involve may start to question, but why wasn't there this sort of sweep outwards from where this neighborhood, this very close knit neighborhood was? why didn't they go door to door? again, i don't want to criticize law enforcement, but people will begin to ask those questions, and i hope that we're learning from this situation as with others that there are things that we can do where every stone should not be left unturned. >> i'm sure it won't. let's go back to that cleveland neighborhood and check in with martin.

you've been looking at this from the investigative angle. did the police at the time of these women's disappearance go door to door. do we know? in the press conference they said they did all they could. >> right. yeah. just to reiterate, back when first you had, you know, the two young women disappear. you had amanda and then after amanda, let me just refer to the notes here. you had gina dejesus. both of those became very famous cases here in the city of cleveland. there are people here today who are here now because they say, look, i was out on the streets. i was knocking on the door. i was canvassing neighborhoods. there was a lot of people besides just law enforcement that were looking out for these young girls. it was a huge story at that time. continue they had candlelight vigils, they would mark the anniversary date. it's not like there wasn't a large community effort. where was the focus then? was it focused in the right area? you know, that remains to be seen. they were taken actually from an

area that is about 110th street. we're at 25th. you're talking 75 blocks away or more. it's not like they were immediately here, but you're right to ask these questions. were family member connections considered? were there links? this goes back to what the mayor was asking at the news conference. why were these girls taken? why were they targeted? was there some sort of connection that made them stand out above anybody else? then, of course, the other thing they want to know is were there any other victims and are there any other suspects involved? where does this go? it's the beginning. it is not the end. >> police are investigating ariel castro's two brothers and if there were any other properties involved. it's hard for some people to believe that these women could be captured and held in one house for a decade. >> approximate correct. there are a lot of people who insin wait that there were times that these young ladies might have been seen in the yard or seen in a window.

that somehow neighbors or those in the neighborhood felt that they had recognized that they didn't belong or they were somehow out of place. now, they claim that they notified authorities. the safety director says they came to this address on two instances, one in 2000 before all of this began and the other in 2004, and the reason they came was to investigate ariel castro because of a child supposedly left behind on the school bus. not because of a report they received of anybody being held against their will in the home. all of this stuff will have to be ironed out. >> so many questions. i'll let you get back to it. martin savidge live from cleveland this morning. a lot of news this morning to talk about. there's a big congressional election in south carolina. as you know, mark sanford against steven colbert's sister. take it away, jim. >> that's right.

hi. that's right. i can tell you just a few moments ago the former governor of south carolina, now congressional candidate mark sanford did vote at a polling station in charleston, and we're joined by the former governor now. appreciate it. >> pleasure. >> we had a chance to catch up with you a few moments ago, and you were telling us how you feel about things today. you said you're optimistic, but you're not making any predictions. how do you feel? >> i still stand by that. you know, you get to the end of a campaign, and you are sort of worn out in the physical sense, but, you know, the finish line is here, and you're guardedly optimist being on what the voters decide come tonight. it's interesting to note that during the campaign you haven't shied away from the questions. you have answered just about every question weave had to ask you. in particular about your permanent life and your past. why have you decided engage and take those questions on during

this campaign? >> one, you talk about the position of public trust, and i had a failing that was well chronicled, and i think it's been important to discuss it. we discussed it at length during the first congressional entry. it falls into this larger, i guess, journey we're all on, which is that none of us are perfect. all of us have feet of clay, and, you know, this notion of redemption, of second chances is part and partial to the american way, and we'll find out whether it's part and parcel to the election tonight. >> do you think voters here in this district have forgiven you? >> i do believe so. yes, sir. i would say that forgiveness is at an individual level, and some people forgive me the next day. some people will probably never forgive me, and the continuum continueses to fall out. i think this larger journey of second chances, of getting back up and trying as best you can to swing the bat in an area that you care about, whether that's in the world of journalism or world of politics, or world of business, i think is important

to every one of our lives. >> as you know the national republican party sort of pulled out of this race and really didn't give you much support. how did you do it without them? >> well, a lot of friends talking to friends. i mean, the down side we hit a million or million plus of megtive ads with nancy pelosi and interested others pouring into the campaign. a lot of people were talking to friends and neighbors, and you know, i told folks, look, we can't keep up with the number of ads, but it's enough friends talk to enough friends it could make a difference in this race. i think it has. whether or not it could be enough come tonight we'll find out. >> finally, can you pledge to the voters here in this district that if you are elected tonight and you go to washington that you'll never again betray the public trust? >> yeah. well, let's be clear, though, i don't know that it's betray the public trust. >> you don't feel like you did? >> it's a much longer conversation. we'll come back to that, but we can debate that at noefr day.

i absolutely failed, period, and a number of taxpayers have said you never failed me once in the way you advocated the public policy. the thing i can say is i totally failed, and our minister gave a great sermon a number of weeks back on do the events of your life refine or define your life. i think the political opponents or people in life will try and knock you down and keep you down based on a failing. i think that these events can in essence become not defining but refining. ultimately making us better people for it and as a result of doing a whole lot of soul searching that comes in the wake of failures. >> governor mark sanford, good luck today. appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. >> as you heard right there, you know, he has essentially asked the voters for forgiveness time and again throughout this campaign, and it has worked. i mean, we have seen this time and again on the campaign trail with the governor. he has gone up to voters individually. i think you saw during that live shot there, a gentleman walk up in the middle of his interview

and he gave him a card. if he pulls this out tonight, it's because he has done it on a retail political level voter by voter, and he has a series of campaign stops later on today. about ten or so before the polls close later on this evening. we'll be watching as the returns come in. >> elizabeth colbert bush. i just wonder the polls show them neck and neck. any prediction? anybody making predictions there? too close to call? >>. >> it is way too close to call, and i have been talking to, you know, even the people who are so-called political experts here in charleston and this first congressional district, they are not making any predictions. elizabeth colbert bush, the sister of comedian steven colbert. there were polls indicating she might walk away with this, but it was interesting to see sanford do this. he waged a battle on two fronts. with the national media he would talk about how he has asked for

forgiveness of the voters and so forth, but on the local level he has tried to tie elizabeth colbert bush to nancy pelosi. he was out on the street corner one day debating a cardboard cut-out of nancy pelosi saying i'm going to debate her asince i can't get a debate with elizabeth colbert-bush. they did have one, but he feels they should have more. it's interesting to watch that strategy unfold. if it works out in his favor tonight, that's what's going to carry the day, i think. >> jim accosta. we'll take a quick break and be back with much more out of cleveland, ohio. that just amaze and horrifying story there. those three abducted women. we'll be right back. love holds us in the beginning. comforts us as we grow old. love is the reason you care. for all the things in your life... that make life worth living. ♪

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>> we want to get back to the breaking news out of cleveland, ohio. the story of those three abducted women held captive for more than a decade by a man police say is ariel castro. police also believe two of his brothers may be involved. we know that amanda berry was able to escape that home. she called 911. that led to the rescue of these women. we also know amanda berry left with a child, a 6-year-old girl, and police have confirmed that child is, indeed, amanda berry's. john wright joins me now to talk about this case. he is from the center for missing and ebbing metro detroited children. we don't hear much about michelle knight. she was abducted in 2002. the first woman to be abducted.

she was around 19 or 20 when she was abducted. police during a press conference earlier this afternoon said not much attention was paid to that, and that kind of hurt me. why do you think that is? >> well, it's hard to say, carol. certainly the ages of the two young girls when they were abducted, one 14 and one minors abducted. michelle was approximately 19 or 20. even though it deserves the same level of attention, the reality is, you know, more focus is given to children who are abducted. >> police said there were a number of vigils held for the two younger women, but not much in the way of vigils. or a big movement defined militia knight. i don't know. i was just curious to what you

would say about that. did you get a chance to listen to the news conference by police? >> i listened to a good portion of it, yes. snoo what went through your mind? what caught you? >> the fact that they remain vigilant and active for the past ten years working on leads, you know, following up on any ponl tips that they received. engaging the community and the families, from all intents and purposes it sounds like these agencies did a wonderful and comprehensive job. they never gave up hope. >> and you also work for an organization that never gives up hope, so when you heard last night that three women were found alive who had been missing for more than a decade, what went through your mind? >> frankly, it was like a celebration when i got the call. i was at home actually preparing for this evening's hope awards event here in washington d.c. in which we're honoring jaycee

dugard who was, as you know, found in 2009 after 18 years in captivity, so the message is there is always hope, and these families, as i have heard them speak, they never gave up hope. they had faith that they would see their children again, and that is the message and the commitment that we have at the national center, and we work with families who are still looking for their children, and they actually provide a peer support network called band of hope. they work together, they work with law enforcement, and they work with the national center, and the message that resonates is never give up until a child is recovered or accounted for. last night is evidence of that. >> absolutely. jaycee dugard, speaking of her, she did release a statement about these young women. i want to read it to our viewers right now. "these individuals need the opportunity to heal and connect

back into the world. this isn't who they are. it is only what happened to them. the human spirit is incredibly resilient. more than ever this reaffirms we should never give up hope." thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> any new word on what's inside -- can you hear me, marten? i don't knowing marten can hear me. all right. we're going to take a break, and we'll work out our technical issues. we'll be right back with more from cleveland. copd makes it hard to breathe... but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can help make this a great block party. ♪ [ male announcer ] advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory

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>> back to that breaking news out of cleveland, ohio. three women were rescued after being held in captivity for more than a decade. that's thanks to amanda berry

who managed to escape that house, call 911. police came and the three women were freed. i want to talk to jeff, a psychologist who has worked with many victims, and jeff, it struck me when amanda berry was talking to the 9 1 dispatcher, she said i'm amanda berry, as if she thought that the dispatcher should know who she was, which kind of said to me that she kind of knew what was going on in the world while she was being held captive. >> that's right. it's quite possible that this captor allowed them to watch television. had he to keep them entertained many some particular way. mind control. making them this is some place they needed to be and that he really cared for them, which we know he was just using them as captives, as slaves, as sex slaves. >> i want to bring in elizabeth cohen, our medical correspondent, and, you know, police, they told reporters you can't ask tough questions about

exactly what happened to these women just yet. why are police so concerned about that? >> there's some debate about how early, how often, and how intensely you ask these people to retell their stories. these women have, what, nearly ten years worth of stories to tell. you can only imagine what happened in that house, and some people want to talk about it. it's therapeutic to talk about it over and over again, both to a therapist, to the family, or even to the media, but for other people they're not going to want to do that. i think what he is saying is let's hold off before we ask them for the terrible details. >> as police are questioning these women, how are they going about it? are psychologists standing nearby and counselors? >> yes, absolutely. there are psychologists standing by working with police officers so they can ask the right questions. not rush them too quickly to retraumaizing themselves by

telling the story and making sure whatever is said is said in a way that it can be processed clinically to help them with the healing. you know what i really would love to see, jaycee dugard herself if she is healthy enough emotionally being involved in some way in providing some advice and counseling though these young women because, as we know, with vietnam vets they open up to other vietnam vets, other war veterans that open up to other war veterans. with powerful words that you resonate that tells me that it helps her to heal, this would be something that would be incredible to be able to connect with these young women, and i hope she's hearing that and that can happen. >> i know she is one strong woman. she's being honored tonight by the way in washington d.c. for her spirit. she's amazing. she made sure want to define these women by what happened to them. they're individual people. she also said it's important for us to give them fael faith. i want to talk about the legal aspect of this case now with

sunny hostin. >> as far as we know police have not charged ariel castro. they've not filed any charges against him. why are they waiting? >> you know, this is a very active investigation, and we've just been talking about the women. these are the main witnesses against this defendant and perhaps three defendants. you have to take it certainly slowly because if the charge is kidnapping as well as sexual assault, each sexual assault is a separate count. you really have to detail in the investigation what happened, and that could be very traumatic to -- especially victims of sexual assault. i suspect that is why it's taking a bit of time, but i will tell you, carol, that this is a case that will be on the fast track. this is a case that will move quite quickly. i believe that we should see charges certainly before the end of the week.

this is an investigation that we have some experience with this in law enforcement. we've been talking about jaycee dugard. elizabeth smart comes to mind. there is so to speak a blueprint for a case like this, and that's why i think we're looking at kidnapping, we're looking at sexual assault. even though we don't know all of the particulars about what happened, we do know that these women were missing for at least a decade. much like jaycee dugard that was missing for almost two decades, and so, again, this is a case that we're going to see in the court system very quickly. they've already been arrested. >> sadly, we know this little girl that was taken out of the house, amanda berry rescued her from that home, police confirmed that is her daughter. i don't know why she was being held captive. also, police said that they filed state charges against ariel castro. the fbi is involved. why just state charges? >> yeah. you know, if they were just kept in cleveland and they weren't moved to any other state, i

think it may be difficult for the federal government to get involved making this a federal case, but state governments are very, very capable of bringing these kinds of cases. they have everything to gain from being able to police their own communities, their own distributes. the fbi is the best team out there to secure a crime scene and to process a crime scene, and so oftentimes, carol, certainly the fbi is brought in even on the state level to help out, to help state investigators, so you already have the best of the best working on this case, and i do believe that the d. affirmative action's office in cleveland, ohio, is the right place for a case like this. we're talking about three of cleveland's citizens affected by this community affected by this and in those types of cases you do want justice to be found in that particular jurisdiction. >> our cnn legal analyst. thank you so much. a quick break. we'll be back. are you still sleeping?

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>> all morning long we've been talking about these three women held captive in a claefld home for more than a decade. the ordeal only ended when amanda berry managed to escape the house and call 911. we're also finding out more about the suspect in this case. his name is ariel castro. he owned the home where these women were being held. laurie we know on facebook ariel castro posted something on may

2nd. he said miracles really do happen. god is good. that was his last facebook post. what more have you been able to find, laurie? >> hey, carol. yeah, you're absolutely right. he posted quite a bit of things like this. he also posted recently about how he was excited to be a grandfather of five. he posted quite a bit about family, about children, and any -- and you see him posting also about music. there's a picture of a guitar. he says i know quality when i see it. he is in a lot of puerto rican groups. we actually were able to gain other access. we see lots of pictures of family and children. you're looking right now at a picture that his friends tito actually gave me. i spoke to his friend tito, and this is a picture of ariel when he was actually playing at a band at the night town jazz club in east cleveland, and tito posted this on his face back page and said here's a lunatic to the far right. this is three years ago, and he said i didn't know i was

performing music with a kidnapper. he is really in shock. i got on the phone with him this morning. we spoke about it. tito said that he has been friends. he has known ariel for 20 years. he has been at his home, and he said i didn't see anything suspicious. he said, you know, laurie, this man was in my house, in my apartment with my daughter there, and he is kind of wrapping his head around this and you're beginning to see it as we do in these kinds of cases the dinl tal imprint and just trying to piece together this information to see if there's something we can see if there are any signs or just to get a better idea of who ariel was. carol. >> just so bizarre. were any of the grandchildren a 6-year-old girl? >> we just got some access. you can see -- >> that would be his daughter. i'm sorry. if it was his daughter. we don't know that yet. i just wondered. >> look, like anything on the digital media sites and when you see some of this stuff you immediately want to think, oh, my goodness, is but we're

looking into this and we're investigating right now, carol. tito said he was in the house on seymour with these women were being held. >> he said i have been on the porch and inside, and not just once. one, two, three times. the last time he was there was in 2011, and he said he didn't have any inkling. i would have called police. he said, you know, ariel was also a bus driver. he said that ariel had actually come to his home once, pulled up with the bus and he would come in, and they were sharing music. they played in different bands. he played piano, and he said they never spoke about women. they never spoke about this kind of thing, and he just had no clue. as you can imagine, he is shocked. that's what he conveys on his social media site. another one of the captions is he says i'm so shocked right now. here is he in the back.

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hello, everyone. i'm ashleigh banfield reporting live today from phoenix, arizona. in about on two hours a jury of eight men and four women are going to assemble in this courthouse behind me, and they're going to resume their deliberations in the jodi arias murder trial. beth karas and jane very well esmitchell will join me in just a moment, but our top story is unfolding. 2,000 miles away at this moment and what a tale it is. authorities in cleveland are now giving us a bit m