we'll be back live at midnight for the latest out of cleveland, along with the jodi arias guilty verdict. and tomorrow, more details from cleveland. a disturbing story. jada pinkett smith will be with us tomorrow. anderson cooper starts right now, see you at midnight. >> piers, thanks. good evening, everyone, it's 10:00 here on the east coast. we have a lot of breaking developments here in cleveland. there's a lot of developments that have stunned the people that live in this area. jodi arias is speaking out as her lawyers prepare to fight for her life. arias said she would rather die than serve a life sentence. authorities have dispatched police to the house behind me on monday after that 911 call from

aman amanda. >> i have a female on the phone who said she had been kidnapped ten years ago, she's at the location right now. the code one, account is 0149-01 0149-0149. >> is she still on the line? >> she's still on the phone right now. she's saying the male is ariel castro, that lives at 2207 seymour and he's been holding her here for ten years. >> the others in the house -- george ina dejesus may be in this house also. we found them. we found them. we have a female who has a young

child with her. mike it two. we also have a michelle knight in the house. i don't know if you want to look that up. 32 years old. >> you can hear some of the cries in the background, some of that audio. new video just released that was shot today at the cleveland justice center, except ariel castro, the owner of the house, police say they will not charge his brothers in the case. there are a lot of new details about what life was like for the last ten years. pamela brown joins me now. >> we're hearing that ariel castro would test the girls. he would attempt to leave the house and stick around and see if they would attempt to flee.

we don't know the extent of how he disciplined him, but we know he did that to instill fear. on monday we're hearing from sources that amanda hit her breaking point. somehow she knew castro had left the house and she used that opening to escape. >> is it knowing where they were kept in the house all this time? >> we know they were kept in separate areas in the basement. and that most of the time they weren't together but at times they were able to rely on each other for survival. they were taken to the garage on a couple occasions at least. >> any idea -- >> amanda ran out of the house on monday but the other two women stayed in the house. we don't know why, but it's safe to assume talking to experts here that they were fearful and that you have to think about it. this is a decade that they have

been trapped in this house. all of a sudden the door is open. you never know how you're going to react in that situation. >> we're going to talk do some experts and one woman who has been through the same thing, held captive for a long period of time. today also we had much needed joy, a lot of joy. two of the rescued women. gina and amanda berry went home. amanda arrived at her sister's home, escorted by authorities in a van. well wishers pulled up in the neighborhood. she gave birth to a child while in the house that was her prison. the child is now 6 years old. gina was greeted outside the home she has not been in since 2004. she was just 14 years old, she

vanished, now she's 23. imagine what it was like stepping inside that door. lynn bergos is a friend of the family. pleased he joins me now. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> what was it like to be in that house? >> joy, happiness, everyone was smiling, and it was a normal li life. >> did you think this day would come? >> i was out there helping in the search for her. my god, i never -- it was like an angel that came down from the sky and brought her out. >> how did she seem? >> she seemed happy. >> happy to be home? >> happy to be home, ate ice cream. people are all happy. everybody was in shock.

>> it's got to be a remindser of how important it is to keep hope alive. in the historic days, people were giving up hope, you were out there. >> i was out there hustle iing e years, ten years. been with felix, keep him up, push, push, to the finish line. >> he's a great guy. >> he kept the family together. he's a fighter. gina's a big girl, she's a lady, she's an angel. she's a fighter. she's stronger than you, and stronger than me. >> i don't doubt that. >> i'm going to tell you one thing. it's up to god. god is number one. jesus christ opinion i go to church every day on sundays and i pray for these people many every day. >> it's a family of strong

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welcome back. the search of the home behind me over there is finished for now. the story, though, unfolding here broke open in west cleveland on monday when amanda decided to break free with her daughter. one of the men who heard her escape was charles ramsey. he made it clear he wasn't the first person actual to hear berry's cries for help. he talked to another neighbor from across the street. >> i heard the girl scream, saw him run across the street. i went outside, wondered what he was doing, and amanda say, i'm stuck in here, help get me out. so he -- either don't know english that well or panicked. all he said was it's a girl. i come with my half eaten big mac. i say, what's up? >> that other man was angel cordero. here's what he has to say about

what happened. >> translator: i looked toward the front door of the house where the kidnapping was. i saw that woman screaming, asking for help. she couldn't open the door, i looked over. i went to ask her if the house was on fire. she said, no, i've been kidnapped for ten years. and so i pulled the door but it was locked with a chain. i tried to open the door, but i couldn't, so i gave it a few kicks. if you see, the house has two doors. she opened the inside door, but the glass door, the one on the outside that's the one that had the chain. i couldn't open it, and i kicked it. several kicks underneath, she managed to escape from underneath the door. she remembered the little girl and went back inside the house, she took the girl and came out. when she came out with the girl i said, let's get out of here, if that guy arrives, he's going to kill us. if he finds me here, he's going to kill me, he'll kill you. she came across the street and

use this lady's phone. if that lady hadn't managed to come out to the door, the kidnapping would have continued for years. >> two neighbors who helped end the nightmare in the house taking place behind me. >> cleveland, 911, police ambulance and fire. >> i'm at .207 seymour west 25th. i just came from mcdonald's, this broad is trying to break out of the house next door to me. what's the problem? she's like, this [ bleep ] kidnapped me and my daughter. she said her name was berry. i don't know who that is. >> sir, sir, sir, you have to calm down and slow down. >> is she in the street? >> seymour avenue. >> is she still in the street? where did she go? >> yeah, i'm looking at her,

she's calling you all on the other phone. >> is she black, white or hispanic. >> she's white, but the baby look hiss bannic. >> what is she wearing? >> white tank top, light blue sweat pants, like a wife beater. >> do you know the address she said she was in. >> yeah, 2207 i'm looking at it. >> i thought that was your house. >> no -- >> sir, we can't talk at the same time. do you want to leave your name and number? >> charles ramsey. >> the people she said who did this, are they still in the house? >> i don't have a [ bleep ] clue. >> can you ask her if she needs an ambulance? >> you need an ambulance or what? >> she need everything. she's in a panic. i think she's been kidnapped. put yourself in her shoes. >> we'll send the police out. >> cleveland's police chief said charles ramsey deserves a reward, a lot of people, a lot

of good people here helping out. local leaders are praising them for their efforts as they should be. earlier i spoke to cleveland's city councilman about what he's been hearing about what happened inside that house. what else have you heard about the investigation? >> well, i just heard about an hour ago, that apparently a report of the incident has been leaked. i've not been able to read the report, i don't have a copy of it. but from what i gather from talking to this source there's some things that have been clarified in the report that we've been hearing from confidential sources within -- i guess i'd call it the official employees that have dealt with the victims. particularly once they were saved and then in transport to the hospital. i think a lot of it deals with the conditions. i know the miscarriages have come up in the rumors of that.

it is apparently been confirmed that there were multiple miscarriages, that the physical duress they were put under actually caused the abortion of children, you know? it's pretty gruesome and pretty savage. >> local media had been reporting based on local law enforcement sources they had yesterday. where is the information you have coming from now? >> i've been told by a source that i have, that actually has copies of a report that some of this type of information in fact is contained within the report. very graphic and detailed information. >> i believe earlier in the day you said something about the birth of amanda berry's child, the circumstances of it? >> we know from several sources that michelle knight -- it

occurred within a small pool of some sort and that miss knight was threatened with her life relative to the success of her birth. >> if amanda berry's child was not born successfully, it was michelle knight's fault. >> yes, these were our fears only imagining the horrors and savagery of the mental and physical duress they must have been put under. >> there's some criticism of missed opportunities. >> i question it. we all question why it's taken this long. to find them. and for them to escape. a few things i can point out on the physical aspects of this layout. these two properties that are before that crime scene, they've been vac an the for a long time. >> they're boarded up as well.

>> when you hear this guy's windows were boarded up on the ground floor, it sounds unusual, but when you see two houses next to it are also boarded up. >> we have a very robust police dispatch system. when calls come in, they're logged in. could there be human errors, sure. i'm confident in the police's abilities when they confirm that there's only been two or three calls from or about that address. the problem with that is, people may have called, if they didn't give the address, get proper information it would have been logged incorrectly. we run into this all the time when residents call about issues. if they're not using common sense protocols, it won't get recorded. >> i appreciate your time. thank you very much. the cleveland police chief said ariel castro has waived his miranda rights and here is ariel castro. he's facing four counts of

kidnapping, three counts of rain. it's important to reiterate, his two brothers will not be charged in the case. ariel has been stopped by the police in the past. martin savage has obtained video of him being grilled in 2008. it's fascinating to see this tape. >> it is. let me give you a bit of background on it. this is dashcam video, it's taken from what is supposed to be a routine traffic stop, except the person stopped is ariel castro, and then, we know -- according to authorities, at the time, he has three women supposedly prisoner in his home. take a look at the video, it's rolling video that comes from the police car. about 8:30 in the evening. the officer rolling along. he notices that a motorcycle whizzes past. you see it real quickly. what he notices and you don't in the video, is that the motorcycle had a license plate that looked suspicious. he pulls into the gas station and pulls the man over. here's where it gets

interesting. the conversation, how polite castro seems to be. how nervous he seems to be. there may be a very good reason for that. listen to the interaction. >> let me see your driver's license? >> excuse me? >> let me see your driver's license. >> what's wrong? >> your plate's improperly displayed, it has to be displayed left or right, not upside down or sideways. the other question is, why are you riding it? you don't have a helmet on, a license. you're subject to being arrested. >>doesn't want that to happen because he's a school bus driver, which he brings up. the officer wrote him two tickets and let him go. the last the officer saw of him was castro pushing his bike the mile home to seymour. >> if he had been arrested what would have happened to the women

inside. >> that's the haunting question. i asked the officer, he said, you know, he's glad he let him go, for this reason. had he taken castro and locked him up, then what he thinks is that those women and now a newborn child at that time, would have been in that home without food, water and no one knew that they were there. >> you grew up in this area, spent a lot of time there. you know the impact that -- the disappearance of these women had on this area. >> yeah. i come back and forth, and i knew and followed this story, the whole community was wrapped up. that police officer, he had gone out on searches for these women and he was talking to the man -- it was personally fwelt, it was deeply felt. it went on for years. >> it's extraordinary, the connections between the castro family and dejesus family, that ariel -- excuse me, regina was very close friends with aerial castro's daughter.

>> this brings up what everyone talks about, the missed opportunities. were there missed opportunities. they talk about law enforcement. did law enforcement miss the connections? did families missed connections? did a neighborhood somehow not quite see things? >> here is castros daughter on america's most wanted talking about the disappearance of her friend. she said she was the last one to see her before she disappeared? >> and the uncle says that he was out there canvassing the streets trying to find the girl. >> and the son wrote an article about the experience and interviewed gina's mother. martin, appreciate the reporting. there's so much we don't know about what these three women went through. and won't know until they want to start to tell their stories. ween watt to take a close look at the psychology behind the relationship that often happens between victims and their

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she understands why the jury didn't believe her because of the lies she originally told investigators. but she maintains that she didn't plan the murder of her ex-boyfriend travis alexander. >> there was no premeditation on my part. i can see how things look that way. but the whole time i was fairly competent i wouldn't get premeditation, there was no premeditation. >> she also said she hopes the family of travis alexander will be able to find piece when the verdict was read, her sisters broke down with emotion. >> they're happy, we'd rather have travis back, but we can't have travis back, so with that said, this is a good day. >> jodi arias is eligible for the death penalty. she says she hopes that's exactly what her sentence will be. >> the worst outcome for me

would be natural life. i would much rather die sooner rather than later. i would probably live a long time. it's not something i'm looking forward to. i said years ago i would rather get death than life, that's still true today. i believe death is the ultimate freedom, i would rather have my freedom as soon as i can get it. >> ted rowlands joins me live from phoenix. the same jury begins the next phase, right? >> yes, a two-pronged penalty phase. can the state of arizona move forward with the death penalty? if they say yes to that, it will be up to these men and women. >> we don't know if she was trying to manipulate the jury but it seems like prison officials are at least taking

them seriously? >> yeah, after that interview was k34r50e9ed. sheriff joe arpaio put her on suicide watch because of that last sound bite that you heard where she said she would rather get the death penalty than live her life in jail. at least for now, she's on suicide watch in the maricopa county jail. >> appreciate the reporting. joining me now, mark geragos who is co author of mistrial. also, former l.a. deputy district attorney marcia clark mark, your reaction to this verdict, you've been saying all along the defense was focused on making sure jodi arias isn't given the death penalty. what happens now? >> i think all they were doing all along, was trying to get the jury to not give her death. and this is not unexpected. in fact, it's interesting. they had on the verdict form the

ability to say premeditation, felony murder, or felony murder and premeditation. and they split 7 to 5 on that. i think they're leaning right now toward not giving her death. but frankly, i understand what she's saying. i mean, if you're in her position, you'd rather have death. you -- what's the point of getting life without -- you don't get any of the appeals. it makes sense to me, but ultimately, i think the verdict was completely expected. >> mark, some are saying she was using reverse psychology, she really wants life in prison. they're going to give her what they think she doesn't want? >> yeah, well, you could have a -- kind of a double reverse psychology. i don't understand why she would want life without -- she loses all kinds of benefits by not

being sentenced to the death penalty. frankly, i've had these cases and clients have always told me, i'd rather have the death penalty than life without parole for a variety of reasons. you get a lot more resources when you're sentenced to death. it's part of the reason that the death penalty machinery is broken in america, and why this case was such an exaggerated form and hyperbolic example of the death penalty machinery being broken. >> this next phase for the defense. is it all about trying to find one juror who does not want to give her the death penalty? >> at the very least, that. now they're moving into the aggravation phase where they're going to show proof of cruelty, that's what will justify a death penalty verdict. whether or not they can persuade 12 people, this will be their

crucible now. it does have to be unanimous. if they don't have a unanimous verdict, a unanimous jury saying it was cruel. then they're not going to even wind up in the penalty phase. they will have to declare a mistrial and convene a new jury that will simply vote only on the penalty. and whether the aggravating factor of cruelty has been shown. >> how do you go about that? >> do you track down her third grade teacher that said she did nice things or something like that? >> the entire guilt phase of this case, was designed to save her from the death penalty in my opinion. putting her on the stand for that period of time. i've never seen a defendant in a death penalty case be on the stand for 17 or 18 days.

it's unheard of from my perspective. i think they were always looking toward the penalty phase of this case. and, you know, i think they probably will prevail on that, if she does get the death penalty, there is a perverse logic to it for her. from her standpoint, she gets kept under much better circumstances if she's sentenced to death than if she gets life without. >> marcia, do you think she'll go back on the stand during this phase? >> she can. if i were her lawyer, i don't think i'd let her back up. i've never heard of a defendant being on the stand for this length of time. they could put her back on the stand. i wouldn't put her on the stand. i don't want the jury sitting there examining the fact that she can't show remorse, and she

may pop out with something like, you guys didn't believe me, but i really didn't premeditate, which will only make the jury angry. i think it's a dicey move, but the family, but the mother on, the sister on. that usually helps to humanize the defendant. >> i think the fact that she gave this interview to the local station tonight, i think that's calculated on her part. when she says ien watt death, i don't want to live. i have genetic history in my favor, it seems calculated on her part. >> it doesn't seem to be something the lawyers wanted her to do. >> do you see that often, giving an interview immediately after giving a conviction, have you seen that before? >> never. i have never heard of it, i'm surprised the sheriff's let her do it. that's what shocked me. what is going on.

you remember the show "chicago." this is feeling like chicago all over again. and now she's going to be famous and -- >> and marcia, remember who the sheriff is in this county, who is -- in my opinion a complete clown. so, you know, that's a whole different issue. we can go on that one for hours. >> yes. mark geragos. thank you for being on. as we reported. the top of the program, we have new details about two of the women being held captive. the question people always ask in this situation. why didn't they run, if there were opportunities why not? the reaction was not unusual. we have learned so much in recent years about what happens to people in cap differty. you've all heard about stockholm syndrome, we'll talk about it. more details ahead. aw, shoot. shoot! this is bad, isn't it? oh no! we're good! this is your first time missing a payment.

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as crowds gathered outside the dejesus family this afternoon, waiting for gina to return. no doubt it was a day some people never thought they would see. gina's father never gave up hope. >> i'm the one that kept this family together. i'm the one that had the heart and soul to fight to see this day. because i knew my daughter was

out there alive. >> as it often happens, a lot of people wonder why the women couldn't try to escape. we learned that when amanda berry made her getaway, the other two could have run out with her, and chose not to. the decision to stay reflected their state of mind. sources say they were brainwashed in a sense, fearful from their years in captivity. that reaction was not unusual. it even has a name. we're learning more and more about what can happen and how quickly it can happen. relationships between a captor and a captive. >> reporter: kidnapper and victim, a relationship that can be one of the strangest and strongest in human psychology. and it may be just what the three girls kidnapped in ohio relied on to survive. >> it's a very primitive, almost child like attachment that

develops. they come to know that their very survival is dependent on keeping this person happy and satisfied. >> reporter: chris mohandy has studied cases involving stockholm syndrome. he says kidnapping victims like those in ohio bond with their captors in a matter of days. stockholm syndrome got its name back in 1973, when the hostages were freed, they kissed and hugged their captors. two refused to testify against them. perhaps the most famous case involving stockholm syndrome is patty hearst. the newspaper heiress was 19 when she was kidnapped in 1974. she was imprisoned and sexually assaulted. but later robbed a bank with her captors and remained on the run with them for more than a year. >> you come to a point where you believe any lie that your abductors that told you.

>> reporter: often in cases like these, people ask, why didn't they leave, why didn't they escape? they must have had the chance? our expert says, the victim is usually so overwhelmed by the situation, they're unable to strategize. they feel powerless and feel if they anger their captor it could mean death. for 18 years, jaycee dugard was held captive by a sex offender. he forced her to have two children with him. >> it's a fake little family, but it's a necessary illusion that she has to have in order to live day to day. >> reporter: dugard spoke about it with diane sawyer on abc. >> the mind manipulation. plus the physical abuse i suffered in the beginning. there was no leaving. >> elizabeth smart, kidnapped from her utah bedroom in 2002 never tried to run either. she was found after nine months.

shawn hornbeck stayed with his captor too for more than four years. even though police say he was free to play outside, even sleep at a friend's house. for all of these victims escaping the monsters who took them isn't nearly as easy as it may seem. randi kaye, cnn, atlanta. >> not easy at all. laura counsels victims of this type of violence. she was a victim of herself. held controlling by a polygamist husband. she was held in a garage at one point for six months, i spoke to her earlier. joining me now is laura callon. she was a captive herself for four years, controlled by a polygamist husband. she was put in a garage for six

months, can you explain what makes somebody stay? because that's the question so many people sometimes don't understand. >> i know. so many people ask, why do women stay? i'm quite sure the women were threatened, i was threatened. he probably threatened them, the child. family members if they left. >> law enforcement says there were beatings he would do trial runs where he would leave, pretend to leave, if it looked like he tried to get out, he would surprise them and beat them? >> definitely. that happened to me several times opinion with victims like that, they go through a survivor mode. you know what i mean, i think it's called stockholm syndrome, where they relate to the captor and really they're just trying to stay alive. >> people sort of accept their new circumstances. >> that's a psychological trauma.

they see there's no hope. posttraumatic stress disorder. i'm surprised and glad the girls made it out alive, a lot of women do not make it out of situations like this. >> you finally, started writing letters, keeping close notes about all the abuse that was happening to you. you slipped a note to a postal worker. >> exactly. i started writing those notes that i had a bad feeling i wasn't going to make it through. at least if someone found me they would find the notes on my body. when he took me to the post office i was able to slip it to her. she made eye contact with me, i made eye contact with her. she knew something was wrong. >> people had suspicions. with shawn hornbeck, people asked him, are you shawn hornbeck? he said no. >> people need to get involved if they have a suspicion.

thank god for mr. ramsey, he got involved, he helped them girls get out. he could have turned an ear, they would have still been in there. >> that's really critical. and getting -- you built a new life. >> yes. zblo do you -- that process has got to take a long time. >> it's going to take a lot with the girls. we went through intense therapy, me and my children. it took a long time before i could use my voice and come out and talk to other women. once i did, i started helping and volunteering with different organizations. that kind of was a healing process for me. >> it's great to see you again. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. lori cowan, amazing story. shawn hornbeck was abducted when he was 11 years old, held captive for four and a half years before he was rescued. i'll speak with him about how he was able to put his life back together after his ordeal. next. all business purchases.

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there aren't many people who can grasp what the three rescued women in cleveland are facing as they try to move forward with their lives opinion one of those people is shawn hornbeck, he was captured and held for four years. in 2007 was found along with another abducted boy. after they were found gina's parents were interviewed. >> it's a miracle they found these two young boys. i cried almost all night. >> that gives us -- all of the parents more hope, to stand up

stronger and never give up that hope. never, because you never know. >> they never gave up hope. and today gina is home with their family. i spoke to shawn hornbeck earlier, before we talked i agreed to not ask what he went through while he was in captivity in respect for his recovery. when you heard that gina's family had hope after your rescue. >> it shows that people are watching and my story has really touched some people in ways we could hope that it did, and it makes me feel happy. >> pam, how important is it, and how important is it to keep hope alive while your child is missing? >> for me it wasn't all that difficult. i felt like i still had that connection to shawn.

i always told myself if he had passed on or something bad happened to him, i would know it, i would feel it. i never got that. also, too, when you're in a situation like we were in, you either decide that you're going to be on a dark side or you're going to be on the light side. and i chose to make sure that we stayed on the light side. >> shawn, i heard some people talk about, how when someone goes through something like this, an abduction of this nature, of this kind of length, that some people may never recover. you say you don't believe that. talk to me about that. >> well, it really depends on the individual and how much support they get. from day one, my family was there for me, to let me know that i was safe and i was okay, and i had nothing to worry about no more. to me, that's what helped me out the most, was knowing that i had their support and everything was going to be okay, and i didn't need to burden myself with it. >> i remember in interviews after shawn returned that you were saying it was important to

kind of let him talk to you in his own time. is that something you would recommend the parents of these young women, that the family members of these young members, the peppering with questions is not the way to go about this? >> no, absolutely not. >> try to refrain from discussing anything related to the case. our feeling is, that's going to make them withdraw more. if they're not ready to talk about it, they may not want to be around you, because they're afraid you are going to bring up something they're uncomfortable with. when they reach the point that they're ready to talk about it. one day they'll walk up to you and say, i'm sure you have some questions, if you want to sit down and talk about it, we can. that's one of the things that happened with us. we cautioned everybody.

friends, family, even the media, not to throw out all those questions. we know everyone's curious and everyone wants answers, but now is not the time. answers will come, there's no rush. it's been ten years, we don't need to learn all these details tomorrow, maybe never. only when they're comfortable talking about it. should they come out with it. >> how are things now, shawn. how is your life now? >> my life now is pretty fantastic. you know, i work a 40 hour a week job. just your standard 21-year-old. got my bills that i pay, nothing real special. >> he says that he's nothing special. but -- in our eyes, and i'm sure in a million other people's eyes he is special. i do -- i am proud of what he has accomplished since he has been home. and that's one reason why we're doing all these interviews. is to let other victims out there know that there is life after this. you can go on, you can feel that

love again. you can feel that trust. and for the families that are still out there of missing children. it gives them hope that their child may be gone for a year, two, four, ten, you just never know, but they can also too come home. >> there is light at the end of the tunnel for some families out there. pam, shawn and craig, i appreciate talking to you. thank you for taking the time. >> thank you. >> thank you, anderson. >> it's hard to imagine the mental torture parents go through with their children missing for years. in 2003, shawn hornbeck's parents went on the montel williams show to get information from sylvia brown. >> here we go again with the wooded areas. southwest of you. >> is there any landmarks around? >> yes, strangely enough, there are two jagged boulders which look really misplaced, because everything is trees and all of a sudden you have these stupid boulders are sitting there.

>> he can be found there? >> he's near the boulders. >> is he still with us? >> she said he was dead. years ago, amanda berry's mother turned to the montel williams show for help and she told her her child was dead you. >> don't think i'll ever see her again? >> yeah, in heaven. >> we know that sylvia brown was wrong. she released a statement today saying, for more than 50 years as a spiritual psychic and guide. when called upon to help authorities with missing person cases, i've been more right than wrong, if ever there was a time to be grateful, this is that time. she could have put out a statement saying, i have no shame whatsoever.

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that does it for us. thanks for watching. outfront next. breaking news with the latest in cleveland, ohio. how a man was able to keep three women captive for more than a decade. what we're just learning about that suspect. we have exclusive new video of ariel castro shot just after he was interviewed by police today. and a verdict comes down in the jodi arias case. why she has been put on suicide