i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me today. "cnn newsroom" continues right now. hello, everyone. i'm ashleigh banfield reporting live, where justice is finally catching up with a woman named jodi arias, hours after her first-degree murder conviction in the grisly death of her boyfriend travis alexander. there will be another round of

testimony that will help decide what happened to her, her sentence. we'll have coverage on the verdict and the crucial next steps in a death penalty prosecution. but we're going to begin in cleveland, ohio, where ariel castro was brought in this morning to face four counts of kidnapping and three counts of rape. and believe me, those words don't even begin to describe the horrors that this unemployed former school bus driver allegedly inflicted on three young women on a daily basis for between nine and 11 years. castro was preceded in court by his brothers pedro and onil castro, who were taken in with him on monday night, but are not being charged in the brutality that was inflicted on seymour avenue. they did face some outstanding misdemeanor charges, and in unrelated cases that were, believe me, very old cases, but they were dispensed with quickly.

ariel castro, on the other hand, barely looked up, and never spoke a word as the judge set bail at $8 million. and that is more than the prosecutor brian murphy was even asking for. mr. murphy called the alleged offenses "premeditated, deliberate, and depraved." and just how depraved is made woefully clear. in police reports from the night amanda berry, gina dejesus, and michelle knight were all rescued from that horror house. dr. drew pinsky and lisa bloom are going to join me with much more on that just minutes from now. we are in phoenix as well. two big breaking stories. five hours now, the aggravation phase of the jodi arias murder trial is set to begin and that's when the prosecution is going to try to prove that travis alexander's murder was especially cruel, and those words are crucial. especially cruel and warrants the death penalty. we're going to get into more of that in just a moment. first, though, this is arias's

reaction as the verdict was read in open court. guilty of first-degree murder. and all 12 jurors agreed it was premeditated. a short time after the verdict came down, she spoke exclusively to ksaz fox reporter, troy hayden. let's listen. >> i said years ago that i would rather get death. i believe death is the ultimate freedom, so i'd rather just have my freedom as soon as i can get it. >> so you're saying you actually prefer getting the death penalty than being in prison for life? >> yes. >> really unprecedented seeing an interview like this. beth karas and jean casarez here with me in phoenix. both of them attorneys and both know everything about this case from the top of the bottom. jean, let's start with those comments first of all and the extraordinary, unorthodox aspect of getting an interview like this before this trial is even

over. and what her comments about wanting to die actually prompted authorities to do. >> it was amazing. i've never seen anything like it. it appears as though she went straight from the courtroom to the sally court area, sat in the seat with the cameras ready and did the interview and she said that she wanted to die. what that sparked was immediately she was put in suicide watch at the jail, and we went to the jail and her mother came shortly after. we'll probably talk about in a little bit. her mother knew that she wanted to die. her mother was distraught and got in there to talk with her as soon as possible. >> i know that you were actually at -- this is the jail where she was taken after. and when her mother arrived, you were able to watch not only her mother arrive, but her aunts and her grandmother, and you were able to speak with her mom? >> yes, her mother said that she had not seen the interview. she knew that jodi said she wanted the die. and her mother is shaking when she's telling me this and she said that her daughter had to live because she could give, she

could be worth something in prison to others and help others during her duration there. >> there are a lot of people watching right now who would say this is all fine and dandy, and it's very sad for the arias family, but more important, the alexander family. and the friends of travis alexander. they tuck up three full rows in that courtroom. and you were there as that verdict came down. give me a feel for that family. >> there was a lot of relief on their part. this is the verdict they hoped for. this is the verdict they have been waiting five years for. a lot of tears. smiles also. hugs in the courtroom. and as jodi arias left, i stayed in the courtroom and watched. her family and her grandmother especially looking over at the alexanders and supporters all embracing and crying and her grandmother just stared at them. and i just thought wow, she must be wondering wow, my grandmother caused all this pain to them. i mean, her mother said to the police the day jodi was arrested, we have the interrogation video, what's

going to happen, she's going spend the rest of her life in prison minimum. >> at a minimum. that leads me to my next question. weigh in on the technicalities of what comes next. there is a sentencing phase, and it is broken into two distinct phases itself. start with the first one. >> it's very unique. that is what will be today, the aggravation phase. and there was a pretrial hearing, so the prosecution can only try to prove one agravator, and it is extreme cruelty. not just cruelty, but extreme cruelty. they're going to put on the medical examiner, we believe, to show the cruelty that travis alexander felt and knew that was happening to him. but the case law has been very vague. what is extreme cruelty? here is how it is defined in arizona law. it is dissupposed to inflict pain, especially in a wanton, insensate or vindictive manner, is a diction, depraved, marked

by debasement, corruption, perversion, or deterioration. do you know that jodi arias used the word debasement when she was talking to travis in that sex tape? >> and a whole lot of other words that we can't repeat on the air. there is actually a verdict that they have to render. it's not guilty or not guilty. it's different. >> it's proven or not proven. >> that is the standard. >> yes. and there's only one aggravator ever charged. this is the hearing that jean was referring to. heinous, debrave praved or crue. the definition of cruelty jean just read has depravity in it. yet a prior judge said it's not depraved. >> the defense in the parietal said that she shot him first, and then he wasn't incapacitated

so he kept going after her. now they're going to have to turn that around and say that shot did incapacitate him so he had no vision of what was happening, thus it wasn't cruel. >> there is so much more that we're going to cover on this case. i'm going to ask you to stand by. your legal expertise has been absolutely topnotch throughout this case. you brought it to a level that has been difficult to do given some of the awful testimony that we've heard. thank you both. jean and beth are going to stand by for a moment. then we're going to switch gears as well to the other big breaking story out of cleveland. brand-new evidence, information from those kidnappings that we've all been following during following this case as well, revealing if you want to talk about depraved, how about the depraved thoughts and the mindset of the suspect. we are live in cleveland next. nom, nom, nom. ♪ the one and only, cheerios

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free on the outside. my, how the tables have turned. cnn's pamela brown joins me now with castro's brief first court appearance. she also has some terrible details that have been reported by the police the night that this case was broken wide open. pam, i just want to start right off with some brand-new information that's been coming to light about some of ariel castro's own words that he wrote, and that have now been discovered by police. can you shed some light on this? >> we're learning about an apparent suicide note that was found inside ariel castro's home when authorities searched that home a couple days ago. this is according to law enforcement officials who have seen this note. in it, castro talks about being abused by another family member. we don't know which family member that is or any other details, but we know he talks about being abused in that apparent suicide note. this was written in 2004. so a couple years or a year or

two after at least one or two of the alleged abductions. >> and pam, there was a very loud siren behind you. i want to make absolutely clear, this is a suicide note they discovered in his house written by his hand. now is it true that he is also under suicide watch as a correlation here? >> reporter: we don't know if there is a direct correlation, but we know that he was under suicide watch when he was in the city jail. that's according to his defense attorney, and now he has been transferred to the county jail as of this morning. >> and pam, the castro brothers both appeared alongside him. they have been photographed and they've been processed alongside him. they were announced as having been arrested alongside him. but today, there was nothing that was brought up in court that had anything to do with these horrors for those men. what was the story behind their appearance? >> reporter: yes, you're right.

they appeared in court today facing misdemeanor charges of open container and drug abuse charges. and essentially, it was a very quick proceeding. they were dismissed. but there are still so many questions about did they never go inside castro's home? did they never see anything? did they not know of this? have the girls said anything to investigators about the brothers? but at this point, authorities are saying that there is no evidence at this point linking the brothers to this specific case. these misdemeanor charges are unrelated to this. so i think a lot of people still have a lot of questions. yesterday, authorities were saying that they're not letting this go. they're still asking questions, but at this point, no evidence linking those brothers to this case. >> pam, just quickly, i know you were able to get your hands on the incident report that the police wrote up. these are just the initial observations of the police as they began this horrifying investigation. there are some details in there

that are just mind-chilling. can you outline what you have seen? >> reporter: really just unspeakable details. there are so many parts of this initial report to talk about. but what really jumped out at me is what michelle knight allegedly went through. the report talks about how she was pregnant at least five times, and when castro found out she was pregnant, he would reportedly starve her for weeks at a time, punch her in the stomach so that she would have a miscarriage. it also talks about how knight was forced to deliver amanda berry's baby, and castro told her that if the baby died, that he would kill her. at one point, the baby stopped breathing. knight had to administer cpr. but we're still wondering why amanda berry was allowed to give birth to her child, and knight was forced to have those miscarriages. again, a lot of questions surrounding that as well. >> there are so many questions, and pam, probably just the tip of the iceberg what you've been

reading in that initial report. pam brown with the very difficult job ahead of you. thank you for that. something must have clicked. that's a quote. it's actually what the police said about the mindset of amanda berry, the 27-year-old who on monday night evidently said enough is enough. and pulled off a daring escape from the home where she had been held captive for a decade. but a different story for the two women who had been held alongside her. a source saying when it was time to run, they did not. describing them as brainwashed and fearful. joining me now, lisa bloom. and also hln's dr. drew pinsky. dr. drew, obviously there are so many people who would have so many questions about why those other two would have stayed behind and what would have given amanda the courage to do what she had been unable to do for a decade. can you shed some light on that? >> i suspect, as many have speculated, that the reason she

finally sort of could take it no longer, after having been indoctrinated, as the other two had been, into sort of a stockholm syndrome of learned passivity, i believe that when this monster started going after amanda's child, that's when her maternal instincts kicked in and she had had enough. i think any woman can understand, particularly those of you that are mothers, that at that point, you don't care if you live or die, you just are going to put it all on the line for that child, and we've all heard reports of superhuman strength and superhuman effort, and that's precisely what broke through here and saved all of their lives. >> lisa bloom, i know you've done an extensive amount of work with sex crimes victims and abuse victims as well and domestic assault victims. when it comes to michelle knight and gina dejesus, i don't understand. if they hear other voices and they can hear an escape route being kicked in, why wouldn't that have been enough for them

to have taken that chance? >> well, dr. drew is right. it is possible, the stockholm syndrome, learned passivity. there are other reports as well. we know there are reports from neighbors from screaming and pleas for help in previous years. the police allegedly came, knocked on the door, nobody answered and ended it. that may not be the first time. we know there was a very heavy inner door. this time, thank goodness, ariel castro did not lock it and that's how amanda was able to call out for help. so they may have tried other times. they may have been threatened into silence. a guy who would beat a pregnant woman, force five abortions, abduct girls is obviously capable of anything. he probably threatened them and they were scared out of their minds. he probably told them if one of them escaped, the other ones would be killed, and so they had to protect each other. there's a lot of facts here that we still have to learn. >> and as you said, some of these details that pamela brown

just mentioned, being chained and being skartarved for weeks n end to force these abortions, these miscarriages and to assault someone to force this to happen. dr. drew, this is your science. i don't understand how anyone could endure, first of all, that length of abuse, and then secondly, how they can go on living. >> well, human -- i mean, it's very easy to sort of brush this off as the resiliency of the human spirit. but the fact is our brains are highly resilient. now that they are out, though, this is not something that they are going to magically be able to get over, now they're going to celebrate being home and everything's magically okay. this will be a scar that will stay with them for life. they are going to be developmentally arrested. where they were taken captive, they'll have to mature their way into their life again and have to deal with the overwhelming shattering and chronic trauma, which again, affects the brain and it's going to require years

and years of treatment and will never be something that they will ever be completely over. >> is there anything that you can help to sort of understand with regard to this brand-new reporting that cnn is learning about a note that was found inside the home, allegedly authored by this alleged perpetrator, suggesting a suicide attempt? what can you tell us about that? >> not at all surprising. this guy -- usually -- often perpetrators have themselves a history of abuse, as this guy obviously did, and people that were traumatized will often contemplate suicide. in my experience of dealing with people with s-- they will call themselves a monster. this guy is categorically that. i will see him with his head hung low, expressing shame here. that does not begin to satisfy any of us that see this man of who he is. here's the message for any of us out there who may have impulses

that they can't contain. there's no excuse for this. there's no excuse for what's happened here. if you have impulses, if you've been through traumatic experiences, if you are thinking about harming yourself or other people, that's when you get help. if you wait until you get to this point or where jodi arias is or where anybody else who's perpetrated a crime, it's too late. then it's god help you after that. but now is the time, get help before it's too late. >> since you've just mentioned jodi arias, she's probably not long from ending up in a holding cell behind me. and the process against her is continuing in a matter of hours. i know you know about this interview that she just conducted, drew, where she has essentially said, you know, if i'm going to get the death penalty, that would be preferable to living out my life in prison. i'd love you to weigh in on that and the psychology behind that. >> well, i'm glad lisa is here, because to have an attorney's point of view of the client going rogue like this will be very interesting. i'm sure if lisa were the

attorney, she'd want to grab her with her bare hands because this undoubtedly will be used in court against her. but this is more of jodi arias's manipulation. we know she has borderline personality disorder. they often have preoccupation with suicide. they don't typically complete suicide though they are higher risk for that than the average population. we don't know if this is just another manipulation by jodi arias. i'll tell you one thing that i discovered from that interview. everything that jodi says is unsatisfying. she's very slippery, very cagey. she leaves the blame back with travis in a very subtle way, telling the family that they should remember them as they wish to remember him, as opposed to the way she really knew him as the evil guy who had it coming. very unsatisfying interview. more manipulation. i think the jury is probably going to grant her her freedom, as she framed it, through the death penalty. what do you say, lisa? >> well, first of all, the day that we see ariel castro with his head hung in shame and

yesterday with gina dejesus with her thumbs up sign, we are already seeing justice in that case when the shame is on the perpetrator and not on the victims with. regard to jodi arias, it's not all that unusual that people on death row actually volunteer to be put to death. 137 death row inmates have volunteered for death and gotten it since the 1970s, including many in arizona. the question is not what she says to the news cameras. the question is what she does in court beginning today. does she instruct her attorneys not to fight the death penalty phase or are they going to go in there and put forward evidence of mitigation. that's when we'll see what she really wants. >> and of course, her competency a huge part of all of this. lisa, we'll touch on that in a moment. lisa, i'm going to ask you to stay on if you will. doctor. dre -- dr. drew, thank you very much for your insight. dr. drew mentioned it, he talked about travis alexander, and there's no one more relieved than that victim's family and

friends, to hear this verdict. what's clear is that he was loved. one of his friends and co-workers, julie christopher, is going to talk to us in a moment about the time she had an eerie experience, a dinner with travis and jodi and how she had warned him to watch his back. ♪ [ female announcer ] the sun powers life. ♪ and now it powers our latest innovation. ♪

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i'm ashleigh banfield reporting live in phoenix. court is going to start in just a few hours for jodi arias, one day after the jurors in her trial found her guilty of first-degree murder in the killing of her ex-boyfriend, travis alexander. of course, travis's family and friends, i think it's fair to say, are extraordinarily relieve relieved. at the very least, jodi arias is going to spend 25 years to life behind bars. she could also get the death penalty at the very most for what she did to travis. when you think about family and friends and the ordeal they've gone through, it is important to remember the man and the ordeal he went through and what he

meant to all the people that he left behind after that violent murder. julie christopher worked with travis. she knew him for five years. they were friends. they spent time together. and also you knew jodi, i think, which is so uncomfortable in this situation. she joins me live here now. i first want to get your reaction, you were amongst the three rows of family and friends in the courtroom when that verdict came down. tell me what it was like for you personally. >> well, the only thing that i could do is cry. because it was like i could just feel my breath -- i could feel like oh, i'm breathing again. it was just like i prayed so hard on this that she would never walk the streets again because she's a monster. she's someone with no emotion. she has no human in her. so i was really praying that she would be in jail for good. >> you feel this now, but you felt something even before all of this when you were at dinner with jodi and travis, and you

warned him about her? why? how did that happen? >> well, you know, we all have intuition. i was having dinner with travis. he was right here in front of me like with you, and jodi was on my right side. and i was eating and we had a nice conversation with travis about work and whatnot and life. and all of a sudden i had this cold chill and it was just like oh, i need to pay attention to this. is this for jodi, is this for my husband? what is this for? i look at travis and all of a sudden i said honey, i need to talk to you. >> right there. >> we went to the ladies room where we could have some space. he closed his eyes, i closed my eyes and all i can tell him is that i see this shower pouring beautiful rain of light around you. you have angels around you. and i remember having the chills. he started watering eyes. he's just like what are you talking about? he was just amazed. i said well, there's a lot of guidance around you.

somehow you have all these angels around you. and all of a sudden i said this is what, you have this dark cloud. i said you have to watch your back. >> regarding jodi. >> you have to watch your back. i didn't mention jodi. >> okay. >> but it was so surreal. i said honey, whatever is happening, you just have to watch yourself. promise me you'll watch yourself. i looked at him, i said just one more thing, i love you, travis, i love you so much. you are so loved. and we hugged and he cried because he was so emotional. but he looked at me as if he knew what i was talking about. >> how long before the murder was this? >> two weeks. >> let me ask you something. so often there are so many people on the outside who cheered when they heard that verdict. and there is another phase here. there is a life or death. i want to know what it is you'd like this jury to come back with, given the fact that jodi has just given an interview saying she'd hope for the death penalty. what would you like to see happen? >> whatever she wishes for i

hope for the opposite because she's playing with our minds. i think she's still trying to play us through the media. she still loves the spotlight. and she could go another six months like this, she would. she's not remorseful of anything. if she wants death penalty, let's leave her in jail for a lifetime. either way she'll be judged. >> let me ask you this as well, jaw l julie. would any kind of penalty be in vindication of travis, or would it be retribution against jodi? what's more for you? >> more for me, because travis was such a light person, and, you know, he practiced yoga, he was inquiring about different philosophies. he had such a beautiful light around him. that i think that he would want her to redeem herself and -- he

wouldn't want her to be happy. that's how much he was so amazing. if he could, he would come here rigt now and say you know what? she'll pay one day or another. just let everybody have peace, you know? he wouldn't want anybody to suffer. >> i hope that you and your friends and family members are able to get through this next very difficult phase. there's going to be a lot of difficult testimony ahead. >> thank you. >> we're sorry for your loss and we're very thankful that you take to talk to us about travis. we don't want him to be lost in this conversation. he suffered terribly. not only did he suffer in this crime, but his reputation suffered horribly, which is why it's so important. is it vindication for a man who was made into a monster, or retribution against the woman who did that? we're going to talk about that a little bit more, but also we're going to talk about that ohio man who now has been formally charged for the allegations of

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he is accused of running his home as a virtual prison, kidnapping three children, until they were young women, holding them in seclusion for a decade, sexually assaulting them repeatedly, chaining them up. amanda berry, michelle knight, and gina dejesus free now after a daring escape on monday. knight said that ariel castro got her pregnant at least five times and that he starved her and that he punched her until

she miscarried. she says she was ordered to deliver the child of amanda berry when amanda became pregnant. and then knight says she was threatened with death should that baby not survive the delivery in a plastic pool. this morning, the man accused of all of this, ariel castro, was formally charged with kidnapping and rape. his bail set at astonishing $8 million. standing before the judge, castro himself in restraints. castro now a captive. here's how it looked in court. >> ariel castro, charged with kidnapping and rape on one charge, kidnapping and rape on the second, kidnapping and rape on the third, and kidnapping on the fourth. >> with respect to mr. castro, he is waiving examination on each case. with respect to bond on mr.

castro, mr. castro is 52 years old, he has lived in the area for 39 years, he is on unemployment compensation, and to the best of my knowledge, he has no convictions, felonies, or serious misdemeanors. >> so what's next for that man, ariel castro? what happens next for his alleged victims and a city that is still in shock? lisa bloom and joey jackson are going to shed light on those questions. it is legal analysis. it is critical as this prosecution going forward. back in a moment. ♪ [ male announcer ] start with a dodge dart. now give it a "tiger shark" engine and 41 mpg. good. now add some of this.

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it is entirely possible that ariel castro will never take another breath as a free man. as we've been reporting all

morning, the alleged captor and alleged rapist of three young cleveland women is now a captive himself. he's being held on $8 million bail, and if he is convicted, there is little to no chance that he will ever be released. but what happens between now and then? it is a long process potentially, and what if anything happens to ariel castro's brothers who were appearing alongside him this morning in that courtroom? these are questions i put now to criminal defense attorney, hln legal analyst joey jackson. we are also joined live via skype by legal analyst lisa bloom. joey, i'd like to begin with you. i've watched a lot of first appearances in my days as a reporter. this one looked fairly boilerplate to me, but i could see how it could look almost offensive maybe to others watching this process, given the gravity of the crimes he's alleged to have committed, and the fairly quick way he was processed. can you weigh in on that?

>> absolutely will. good morning to you. it's a standard proceeding when someone gets arraigned. when it's an arraignment, you're simply apprised of the process you're facing and the process is joined. here we had a criminal complaint. this criminal come plantd listed the char -- complaint listed the char charges. a grand jury will convene and the investigation, of course, continues. we know about the brothers, we know at this point they haven't been arrested in connection with this case or formally charged. that certainly could change. i don't know. it depends on the evidence and information that comes forward. i could tell you once that investigation continues and there is an indictment in this case, which i certainly would suspect happens, that he faces life sentences, and i also think the judge will serve those, having served the sentences, should he be convicted. he's entitled the due process. they could be consecutive. that means certainly that

they're stacked one after the other after the other. so it's a long road for him. and i think he certainly has a lot of explaining to do, particularly giving the gravity of the case, the specific details of his conduct, the beatings and tying them up and everything that he did and holding them hostage. so certainly, he's a long ways from any type of freedom any time soon. >> i don't think it's too far to say this was just sheer torture and years upon years of torture. clearly not one event as you mentioned, the potential for consecutive sentences. we're getting the reporting that mr. castro is cooperating the police, that he waived his miranda rights, that he's been giving statements, and we're also hearing that he is under a suicide watch. i want to get you to weigh in with your trial experience and your experience as a defense attorney, whether you expect at this point that the amount of evidence that we have, just thus far, this early on, might just result in a plea deal very quickly to get this over with. >> absolutely. and you know, if he's going to

hang his head in shame, which it what it looks like to me, then why doesn't he just plead guilty and spare these three women and this child the ordeal of having to go through legal proceedings? you know, i think a lot of these guys when they talk about being suicidal, it's still all about them and how bad they feel. and if he really genuinely feels any remorse at all, then it's time for him to plead guilty. there is no way he's ever going to see the light of day again, going to see freedom again. he's going to be incarcerated for the rest of his life. these are just legal niceties. so far, we have seven charges against him. there should be a lot more charges coming, charges for the forced beatings, the forced abortion, the starvation of these women. there's a lot more to come. let's get it over with, plead guilty, go to prison for the rest of your life, where you belong. he can't get the death penalty because that's only for murder in this country. he's going to be in prison for the rest of his life, and let these three women and this girl try to begin their life anew.

>> i'll go further. the community as well. i'm in a community that's paid over $1.6 million to defend jodi arias, and we already know now from our reporting that mr. castro was on public assistance and unemployment benefits and it would certainly cost that community a lot of money and an extensive, prolonged defense as well. is all of this, every bit of the detail that is sure to come out if there's any trial, would be so horrific, beyond the money that the community would spend. lisa bloom and joey jackson, stand by, if you both will, there's so much more to cover on this front and the front where i'm standing as well there. is a contentious debate that's looming on another front as well, and in another state. what to do with the body of the alleged boston bombing suspect, and now this appears at last resolved. i'm going to have a live report on just where tamerlan tsarnaev may be buried, next. [ male announcer ] this is bob,

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boston here, to an undisclosed location. this is what police told us this morning. have a listen. >> as a result of our public appeal for help, a courageous and compassionate individual came forward to provide the assistance needed to properly bury the deceased. his body is no longer in the city of worcester and is now entombed. >> now, while this solves the problem for the city, for the funeral home, many here are wondering where was he buried. it seems that the state, the funeral home and the family of tamerlan tsarnaev really just want to keep that undisclosed at this point. they don't want to let anyone know exactly where he is entombed, ashleigh. >> i am sure that that is a huge relief not only for the people of worcester, but also people of massachusetts who have been so concerned with this that maybe this is just going to be behind them and that it won't be a public spectacle. paula newton reporting live for us in boston.

thank you for that. we want to turn our attention once again to the other big story of the day, and that is here in phoenix. the verdict in the jodi arias murder trial will not soon be forgotten. in fact, you will not believe what it looked like outside of this courthouse. crowds cheering, photographs being snapped, smartphones and tweets. we compared the reaction here to a couple of other very high profile cases. hmm, it says here that cheerios helps lower cholesterol

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i'm ashleigh banfield reporting live at the maricopa county superior courthouse, as we wait for phase two here in phoenix of jodi arias murder trial set to begin just hours from now, it is the sentencing phase where jurors have to decide two things, number one, if the murder of traffic accident especially cruel and then, number two, is she a woman worth saving? i'm going to take you back right now to the very moment where >> t state of arizona versus jodi ann arias verdict count one, we the jury dually empanelled and sworn above action upon our oaths do find the defendant as to count one first-degree murder guilty. >> there's the reaction, subtle inside. but here is the not subtle

reaction outside as that verdict is read. the sheer elation and cheering and incredible turnout. hundreds of people listening on loud speakers as that verdict came down live. i want to bring back in hln's legal correspondent jean casarez. this is such a surreal moment. i was here and this was happening within a block of me. i could hear that it was almost deafening. you, on the other hand, were in the quieter confines of that courtroom yet not quiet at all. >> so ironic. it was, before the verdict was read, it was an eerie silence in that courtroom. it's hard to explain, but it was a packed courtroom. they even brought in seats, but not one person was talking. and it was like the world was stopping at that moment. it was very eerie. and the jury walked in and the -- >> were you able to read their faces? that's always the critical

thing. defense attorneys look at their faces to think can i gleam anything? >> i normally can. i could not this time. i could not. when one male juror sat down, he wiped his face as if this was a difficult moment for him. >> and then of course we saw the reaction from the family members. heartbreaking. >> it was the justice that they had wanted for so many years. i mean every day they've been at this trial. and they are just so classy. and they just hold their heads high. and they are emotional, but yesterday was the infinite moment. >> litd l known fact jean casarez and i go back many years covering trial after trial after trial and many high profile and many bringing out big crowds, casey anthony for one, conrad mur ri for another. you watched both those, can you compare what you saw here? >> there are similarities, the crowds, the cheers, the applause when justice is met or the jeers when justice has not been met like with casey anthony. let me tell you what separates

this trial from any other is the wounds, the injuries, the stabbings, the mutilation of a human body, that is unequalled. >> well, and that's about to come out today in this beginning of the sentencing phase. jean, excellent work. you're a great lawyer and a great reporter and appreciate the work you've done. exhaustive work really that you've been there since the beginning four and a half months of this. and it's not over yet. thank you, very much, for watching us on this edition of "cnn newsroom." please stay tuned, "around the world" is coming up after this quick break. i'm ashleigh banfield reporting live. ♪ (annoucer) new beneful medley's, in tuscan, romana, and mediterranean style varieties. ♪ just mix it in, and take play to new places. three cans in every pack. new beneful medley's.

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welcome to "around the world." i'm suzanne malveaux. >> and i'm michael holmes. thanks for your company today. >> we have two big stories we're following here making news around the world. new details emerging from the nightmare in cleveland. we are learning more about the horrifying ordeal of those three young women held captive for a decade. >> also the man accused of kidnapping and raping them, he's appeared in court. the other big story of course, jodi arias prefers death to life in prison. >> in phoenix jurors who convicted her of first-degree murder, they're beginning to determine her fate. we're going to have in-depth coverage of both of those stories and of course the latest news from around the world. now, alleged kidnapper and rapist goes to court, this is in cleveland. >> uh-huh. ariel castro, you know that name now. he held his head down as he appeared before a judge today. this is castro's latest mug