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against ariel castro, including aggravated murder. why aggravated murder? well, they would be for the alleged termination of his captives' pregnancies. michelle knight alone told investigators that she had been impregna impregnated five different times and she miscarried after being starve and beaten in the stomach. she remains hospitalized today. all of this as cnn has learned that she had been removed from a federal missing persons database years ago. we're expecting a statement from the police as to why this happened, although the cleveland plain dealer said it was because of a misunderstanding with how the database was updated and how it was managed. finally, we're hearing from the suspect's own mother. here's what she had to say to reporters. >> i have a sick son who has done something serious. i'm suffering very much.

i ask for forgiveness from those mothers. may those girls forgive me. i suffer the pain they suffered. i'm suffering for my son's pain. my son is sick, and i have nothing to do with what my son did. >> that was lillian castro, ariel castro's mother, and we are also hearing from one of ariel castro's daughters. here's what she had to say about these revelations in a cnn exclusive. >> i can't forgive him. like, there's no way. the main emotion that i have besides gratitude that these girls are home is disgust. you know, when i really sit down and start thinking about him, i literally want to vomit, that he was so deceptive to where i never picked up on it and family members never picked up on it. i mean, he was good at it. he was good at hiding it. >> that was angie greg who sat

down exclusively with our own laurie seagull who joins me live now from cleveland. laurie, i think so many people have so many questions about ariel castro's family, how close they were to this man, this suspect, and if they had ever been in his house while all of these horrors were allegedly going on. >> yeah. i mean, ashley, angie, when we spoke to her, she was very, very close to ariel. she has been to is this home on seymour avenue. this is where it's all happening. she was in his home quite a bit. he was there a couple of months ago. she would go in and ariel would cook her food. she would listen to music. can you imagine the shock. she wrote her emotios down and read them in a letter. this is what she had to say to

me. >> my husband and i are in complete disbelief that the caring, doding man i knew as my daddy was, in fact, the most evil, vile, demonic criminal that i have met or heard of over the past ten years. >> this is part a letter angie greg wrote after learning her father was allegedly behind the kidnappings in cleveland, ohio. now, she's speaking out. >> and to go to the girls to show these girls the footage of the parents pleas for the return, to rape, starve, and beat innocent human beings, i'm disgusted. >> what is that like? >> it's like a bad movie. >> oonl only you're in it? >> only we're in it. we're, you know, the main characters.

i never suspected anything was going on. i think of things that make a whole lot of sense now. >> you look back and say, okay, you can piece together -- you are beginning to piece together a puzzle. what were the signs? >> well, he never wanted to leave the house more than a day at a time. he was adamant in the fact that he wanted to leave home in the early morning and he had to be back by evening. >> were there certain areas in the home that were just off limits? >> ever since my mom lived in that house, the basement was always locked. i have never been upstairs in the house, and i never had reason to be. i asked him if i can see my room for old times sake, and he says, oh, honey, there's so much junk up there, you don't want to go up there. >> when you think about, you know, what was behind those doors, how do you cope with that? >> it all makes sense now.

now i know. it's hard, but i have no sympathy for the man. i have no sympathy. he is just another person who has lied and deceived and manipulated people, and i could never forgive him. i could never forgive him. if you were to ask me this last week, i would have told you, he is the best dad and the best grandpa. >> now angie realizes ariel castro may have fathered a daughter with one of the women he allegedly held captive. meaning she may have a sister. >> he showed me a picture that was on his cell phone randomly, and he said look at this cute little girl. i said she's cute, who is that? you know? and he said this is my girlfriend's child, and i said, dad, that girl looks like emily. emily is my younger sister wresh

said, no, that's not my child. this is my girlfriend's child by somebody else. >> very powerful. yesterday was a really tough day for angie because she's a mother, and she sat down her two sons and she told them that she -- she told them what their grandfather had done, and it was a very hard conversation, as you can imagine, because she is still trying to wrap her head around it. there were tears. the younger one is too young to really understand it. ashleigh. >> laurie, what about any kind of -- i don't even know how to phrase this question. relationship, conversation? any future connection with this father? has she said? is it too early to even wrap her head around where she wants to be in the future with this man? >> listen, when we sat down with her, we know where she is at right now. she's saying is he dead to me. he is not my father anymore. this isn't the man i knew and she wants absolutely nothing to do with him. at this point you can imagine that she would go and she would

face him just having found out all the things that he was capable of. >> just so many families destroyed and these horrors. excellent work. thank you for that. reporting live for us in cleveland. can you see more of laurie's exclusive interview with angie greg, who is the daughter of the suspect in this horrible crime, and it's on cnn.com. ariel castro, that suspect is now a captive himself. is he sitting in a jail cell, and it is really unlikely that he will make bail because the judge set it at $8 million. wile he sits in that dwell e cell, the prosecutor -- when he sits in that cell, the prosecutor now wants to bump up those charges. kidnapping and rape now, but he says he wants charges for each and every instance of sexual violence. and for each and every day that those women had been undergoing that kidnapping, had been held captive. he also says he wants to pursue perhaps even the most serious of the list, the aggravated murder

charges he says are possible. he says the theory here, death of the women's unborn children. joining me now is cnn legal analyst, joey jackson, and attorney danny as well. let me just be clear right off the bat, all we know now are reports that one of the women has said that she had five pregnancies. we also know that one of the women had a child. we don't know anything beyond that, but joey, let's just start with the potential of any kind of murder charges in a state that carries the death penalty. do you see this as a possibility? >> it's certainly a possibility, ashleigh. now, that will be contingent, of course, upon the ultimate facts that are determined in the case. >> there will be a grand jury that convenes, and you need to show an aggravating circumstance. we certainly have it here. it was the death of others on

the 13 years old. not that they were under 13, but certainly if there was a fetus there who was alive at the time, if there were miscarriages that he forced. certainly the prosecution can pursue that, and in the absence of pursuing a successful death penalty prosecution, ashleigh, they can also, of course, be -- he can be exposed to a life sentence on each of those charges. either way the punishment will be very severe. >> i mean, absolutely. if these are consecutive, i think each of the felony charges right now carry three to 11 years. if he gets the maximum consecutive, he is 50, he will never see the light of day. >> weigh in on the possibility of actually litigating a case like this. with the background that if anybody is confused as to why there would be a murder charge of a fetus that didn't have a birth certificate, this is not unusual. there are 38 states that have homicide statutes that actually applies to the killing of unborn fetuses, and ohio is one of at least 23 states that say that

can be the earliest stages of pregnancy in this case. it is not as simple as that. evidence is critical in these kinds of prosecutions. what kind of evidence do we have here? >> so ohio allows for an aggravated murder where there's an unlawful termination of pregnancy. all of these house of horrors discussions that ultimately the crimes that may merit the death penalty are among the people that were never born. in this case unlawfully terminating the pregnancy of another is something that could warrant aggravated murder and potentially warrant the death penalty, although it's not easy to get the death penalty. the death penalty capital punishment is precluded in ohio unless one of these aggravated circumstances that joey was talking about. but how will the prosecution prove it? it will be difficult because there won't be any medical records. there will be zero scientific evidence, sfwler medical records. it will rely exclusively on the

testimony of these victims. we'll have a horrific tale to tell. certainly the likelihood -- the defense perspective, look out for the defense to circle their wagons around the fact that there isn't any doctors evidence. there isn't any scientific documentary evidence that he terminated pregnancies. it will be interesting to see what they develop, and you better believe law enforcement is going to do their best to develop that evidence, that is probably why they're going over that residents with a fine-tooth comb. they want to make they are case, and when they make it, they want it to stick. >> joey jackson, i think what danny says is critical. in many of these prosecutions you must have some of the medical evidence, which obviously doesn't exist at this point. one thing they do have, they don't just have one witness's story. they don't even have two witness's stories. they have three witnesses who can corroborate that. if any defense attorney comes back and says, but your memory might be skewed, can you make that allegation right? >> you certainly can. there are a number of types of evidence in any case, ashleigh.

certainly even the circumstantial evidence. that is that people can give evidence in a courtroom that may not be direct, but, you know what, if you walk outside and it wasn't raining when you came in, but it was wet, you could conclude that it rained when you were in. when you have direct evidence, which is the witness herself is saying, listen, terminated my pregnancy, when you have other witnesses in that home who can say, you know what, i was a witness to that, i was an ear witness, i was an eyewitness to that, and it certainly would then be very credible, and if the jury believes that it's credible and it's warranted as an aggravated factor, then you would have the death penalty, but as danny says, certainly it would be some difficulty to prove, and it would be defense attorneys who would be yelling and screaming there's no medical evidence. you can't just go on the words. you know what, ashleigh, they could. >> and i just want to let you know at the beginning of this broadcast, reuters got confirmation that the dna testing proving that the suspect is the father of that child, and cnn has confirmed that he has tested positive as the father of

amanda berry's baby. i don't know that we would all be surprised by it, but you have to have it confirmed. thank you to you both. stay put, if you will. first degree murder conviction is nott the last chapter in the jodi arias story because today that woman is under guard in a very special cell. it is the psychiatric ward in a different jail. she has been moved. the drama continues both inside and outside the courtroom. we're live in phoenix next. i'm so glad you called. thank you.

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everywhere. finally there was a mystery location that's been secured. mystery no more. a muslim cemetery in virginia. jodi arias, in the meantime, in a phoenix jail cell on suicide protocol. it's not just any kind of cell. she's been transferred to a psychiatric ward in a different jail. i want to get you state straight to our legal expert jean casarez. the developments are fast and furious. she's convicted of murdering her former boy friend travis alec anneder. we're awaiting the penalty phase in all of this. we were expecting this yesterday. then comes the news that she's been transferred to the psychiatric ward. then comes the news that there' an exparte meeting in judges chambers, and then comes the news that it's all of a sudden on hold until wednesday. my question for you with your background, is this an issue we may start seeing as a competency problem. could the trial be hung up for competency?

>> well, it's all very sealed. i definitely think that you're going in the right direction. jodi arias remains committed to the psychiatric ward this morning. we have learn thad she has constant care and observation 24-7 by a team of doctors and nurses. when you normally are on suicide watch, which is what she is, you can have this -- i was here last night, and jodi arias's mother came to visit her. she walked through the doors behind me just like all visitors do. she came out in ten minutes, ashleigh, and she told me that she was not allowed to see her daughter because they said that jodi was under watch. so that is very interesting because her mother was not allowed see her, and doctors make that determination. jodi doesn't make that determination. the team of psychiatrists and psychologists determine what

level you are at when you are within the psychiatric ward and on suicide watch. >> well, i don't know if she's assisting her attorneys, which is critical many this process, because she can't. that is a competency problem. if she is assisting her attorneys right now, jean casarez, they've done something that might be very unchallengeable to the family of the dead man in this story. they have asked that anybody who is going to give a victim's impact statement in the penalty phase of this trial, and right now i think it's only scheduled to be two family members, they're asking that they put it on video and not actually appear live in court. could you please explain to me why and why it would make a difference, and if she has any shot at this whatsoever? >> all the motions from the defense, from the beginning of this death penalty trial are going to be constitutionally based, and what they're concerned about here is the right to a fair trial by jodi arias because they are believing that if the victims -- these are close family members that have been in the court day in and day out. if they stand up and give that

victim impact statement, that the emotion could be so great, not only from them, but others in the gallery, that it would trigger something so that there would be an unfair trial situation for jodi arias. i have never seen victim impact statements reported like this unless someone would be old, elderly, final, sick, not able to come to the courtroom, and, remember, victim impact statements can be in writing or live. >> also given the fact that there weren't insane outbursts at the time of the verdict, i don't know what grounds there are to suggest that anybody might have an outburst at the statement, but, you know, we've seen other things happen in court, so this will be yet another drama to unfold. jean, life for us phoenix at that jail. also, we want a reminder if you tune in tonight. my colleague anderson cooper had an excellent piece on the testimony and the evidence all of the jodi arias murder trials entering its sentencing phase. murder in the first degree inside the jodi arias trial

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>> big bags of food from mcdonald's restaurants in a backyard that was hidden by plastic tarps. ariel castro's neighbors say that they saw these unusual things and that something wasn't quite right in that house. one man even said he saw gina dejesus, one of the three women that that man allegedly held captive for a decade, just before she was kidnapped. he says when he told the police, they ignored his complaint. our gary tuckman has all the details. >> eric poin dexter says he believes key have healthed helped police end this kidnapping nightmare. the street is west 105th. only a couple of blocks away

from the school gina was walking home from the day she was kidnapped. eric and his brother were driving when a car came up on their left in the turning lane. >> then you saw a girl walking down the side walk on that side of the street. >> right by the corner. right there by that brick building. so what did you see this driver do after that? >> once he crossed fidelity here, he swerved in front of us almost hitting us to get into where the parking lane is and as soon as we passed him up, he did a u-turn. didn't care if anybody was coming the other way or nothing. did a u-turn right in front of the -- right in front of where the little girl was walking. >> in this week's police report about the case, authorities reveal that gina has confirmed she was kidnapped at west 105th street. after eric and his brother saw the car make a u-turn and head towards the girl, they also made a u-turn, angry this they almost got hit by the driver and also concerned about the girl. when they got to the spot where they had seen the girl, they no longer did. she was gone.

it wasn't long before reports surfaced about a missing girl named gina dejesus. eric and his brother say they immediately called the police to tell them what they saw. >> she was wearing tight black pants and a puffy gray jacket. >> what was the description of gina dejesus after she went miss sng. >> it was a little girl with long curly black hair wearing black pants, tight black pants, and a gray puffy jacket. >> same exact description? >> same exact description. >> he said authorities never seemed to think their information was credible. >> they seemed like they were looking at us like we were just looking for attention or something like that. >> the police? >> yes. they didn't seem to give any real true desire for the case. you know, oh, we were telling them. they thought it was just we were blowing smoke up their butts or something. >> why do you think that is? >> i have though clue. >> after the arrest of ariel castro, eric and his brother say that is the face they saw behind the wheel that day. theirs isn't the only story that if acted upon could have ended the terror allegedly brought by ariel castro. after castro, who was a school bus driver, had allegedly

kidnapped two girls and was about to kidnap gina dejesus, he left a child on his bus as he headed into the bus depot. i asked police why castillo wasn't more aggressively questioned about the incident. >> he was interviewed extensively relative to this complaint that we had. he was not a suspect in any other complaint. this was a -- he was a bus driver who inadvertently, so he says, came back and then found the young man. >> castro was never prosecuted for that incident. a year later castro was accused of court documents of preetd abuse and domestic violence against his common law wife. he was accused of everything from breaking her nose twice to dislocating her shoulders. the case was ultimately dismissed because of mum russ delays caused by castro not showing up and attorneys for both sides not showing up. police strongly defend their work and say they have no records of any recent calls

pertaining to ariel castro. they also say they have not been able to confirm if they have records of talking to eric poindexter and his brother. >> i now believe 100% in my heart that he was there to abduct that little girl, and i believe that little girl was gina dejesus. >> police say they will continue to investigate if other calls have been made over the years. gary tuckman, cnn, cleveland. >> and that investigation is brought on so many fronts. could the police have done more before all of this? were warning signs ignored? i want to bring in former new york city chief investigator, new york city chief police chief investigator steve hardy, and he joins us from new york via skype. you were also a police detective. you are a great person to ask. is hindsight 20-20, or when you hear the things that gary tuckman just told us with the interview that he conducted of that man who said he saw a

little girl and was so concerned he circled back and he was gone and police weren't interested sshgs that the kind of thing that can really go on and should there be more attention to find out if that really did happen? >> in a case like this, especially a high profile case like this, we'll see a lot of monday morning quarterbacking going on. i'm an advocate for anything we can do to improve our police operations to keep our young and female safe. >> people say they have made calls in this past decade. any time we get a report to the press that someone says he or she made the call, police come back and say it's just not there. how accurate are those call logs and how often do people say something to police perhaps not on the telephone and it doesn't get logged? >> well, every call that's generated by the public to the police department is logged in,

whether it's -- it used to be in the blotter years ago back in the 1990s, and then we became computerized more than ten, 12 years ago. depending upon the agency. the calls are accurately reported, and they can be cross-referenced rather easily. this information if it were to have been reported to law enforcement, it may have helped. it may have not helped. you know, we're going to learn from this. this is a very rare instance, this type of a case, that jaycee dugards, the elizabeth smarts and now the cleveland case. very rare. law enforcement typically doesn't see a woman or a child abducted ten, 15, 20 years ago and live to be discovered. >> now we know they have, and now we know that we have to be vigilant, and if we have three kids disappearing on the same street, i get it. without probable cause you can't go marching into people's homes, but isn't there something more that can be done to canvas those neighborhoods and to do more to find out a better picture of who is living where and what kind of background they might have?

there was some very unusual behavior in castro's background. >> looking at the history with him leaving that child on the bus, does it necessarily direct us to a serial -- >> it's the horrifying circumstances of his wife, that would be a red flag, wouldn't it? >> it's a red flag under any aspect of domestic violence. would that cause law enforcement to take a closer look at it? of course. i'm sure that that's been done. you get behind his closed doors without probable cause, without a judge signing off on search warrant. very difficult process. we do need to have better communication with the public. we do need to further, get that one step or two steps further to look at a suspicious circumstance. however, my -- so we can better be able to do our jobs and find and discover cases like this more rapidly. >> and sometimes they are needles in a haystack, without question. and hindsight is very much

20-20. steve, thank you for that. inside the mind of an alleged monster. we will ask what other secrets could be hidden inside that house of horrors, that is tonight. a special piers morgan live tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern time. we've got some breaking news that i want to bring to your attention reason. this comes to us out of texas. in fact, it comes to us with regard to the explosion of the west texas fertilizer plant. the texas department of public safety is launching a criminal investigation into the fertilizer plant explosion. the texas department of public safety is announcing this in a press release, in fact. thankful the disaster has severely impacted the community of west. we want to insure that no stone goes unturned and that all of the facts related to this incident are uncovered. this from the director steven mcgraw, the director of the texas department of public safety. you'll remember that on april 17th, two days, actually, after the boston bombings at the

marathon, that fertilizer plant exploded. 14 people were killed in that explosion. it registered on seismographs as an earthquake 2.1. it could be felt 50 miles away. the damage that you are seeing on your screen is evidence of just how massive this explosion was. it had been cited twice by federal regulators since 2006. i'm going to go on to quote the texas department of public safety. they say the citizens of mcclellan county and texas muts have confidence that this incident has been looked at from every angle and professionally handled. they deserve nothing less. that coming to us from the sheriff. there you have it. it's going to be a criminal investigation now into the explosion. we're going to have more on that in just a moment. [ dentist ] with so many toothbrushes to choose from,

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zirjts today a very important deadline. the pre-trial motion in the case against george zimmerman. that's a murder case, and the lawyers on both sides have been working a lot of hours. overtime, you might say. zimmerman's attorneys are asking the judge for some very special things. they want the jury in his case to be able to leaf the courtroom and actually go out to the scene where trayvon marten was shot and killed last we're in sanford, florida. they call it a jury go see sometimes. you might recall that zimmerman is charged with second degree murder in connection with that case. his attorneys also want the judge to sequester any jury members that become empanelled and then not reveal their identities, at least during the trial. the prosecutors are also busy. they filed a motion asking the judge to order zimmerman's wife to step up and answer their

questions in pre-trial deposition efforts. joining us now to sort all of these things out, cmn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor sunny hostin and joey jackson. joey jackson, starting with you, and that's a jury go see where they leave the courthouse and they go to the scene of the crime. while that sounds a little wild, this actually happens not so infrequently. doesn't it? >> infrequently, doesn't it? >> absolutely. i think it's very important. trials are searches for the truth. the jury is the finder of fact. anything that would assist them in that, i'm for. i think a prosecutor should be for that too. i mean, ultimately, think about a jury trial, ashleigh. what do we do? we show photos, exhibits, video, audio, why? because we're bringing the jury to the event in a courtroom. what better way to bring the jury to the event than to have them go to the event. >> it's very pristine evidence. it's not a photograph. it's the real thing. it does have a great effect.

jurors often say it's a wonderful opportunity as well. sunny, what about the other issue of jurors and the request to keep their identities a secret? it's not the first time we've heard of this either. >> it's not. and i think actually in this particular case it's going to be important. remember with the casey anthony case, the vi trael that that jury received. we're still in florida in the zimmerman case, the same state. the last thing you want is for jurors to be concerned about how the public will receive their verdict. so i think it is really in a case like this where there are so many hot button issues atash e tached to it, it would be really helpful for this jury to remain anonymous, to maintain their anonymity. and i think that the judge will do that for this jury. >> interesting. and, joey, quickly to you. i'm short on time. quick as you can for me, please, the wife of mr. zimmerman, shellie, does she have any fifth

amendment protection? does she have to answer prosecutors pretrial? >> not at all. this is a thorn ear issue briefly ashleigh. certainly you might recall she's under a criminal case herself. what happened? she was charged with perjury. so to that extent she has a fifth amendment right not to say anything. and also there's a spousal privilege in florida and other states across the country which allows a spouse of a defendant to say not a word. >> all right. sunny hostin, joey jackson, i knew you'd have the answers no matter how busy you are, you're always right up on those cases. thank you to you both. >> happy friday, ashleigh. >> thank you. have a great weekend to both of you. the story of three women being rescued in cleveland this week has given hundreds of families brand new hope in their cases that their daughters and their sons who are missing might also be found alive. we have one mother's story of homecoming up next. [ male announcer ] with wells fargo advisors envision planning process,

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the escape and rescue of amanda berry, gina dejesus and michelle knight is certainly giving new hope to thousands of other families. these are families that have some new energy in their own quest to find their own missing loved ones. and our kyung lah has their story. >> hope is a very difficult thing. it's a very difficult thing to hold onto. >> sharon murch has been holding

on for 25 years hoping her abducted daughter would somehow come home. she was just 19 years old in 1988 and went to this corner store in hayward, california, with a friend. >> they picked up their scooters. before they left, she said i love you mom. and i said i love you too. and those were our last words to each other. >> officials say there's no sign of her or her abductor. >> a nation posting and canvassing looking for this man. witnesses saw him grab her screaming as he shoved her into a car. the mother pleading to return her first born child. >> she will know how much we love her and care about her. >> 15,000 tips later, an entire police room dedicated to the case, still nothing. her sister and brother now

adults, the yellow ribbons marking the place where michalae was taken, her mother replacing the tattered and faded ones with each passing year. >> it's like a big hole in the center of my life. and it's impossible to get away from it. >> when you heard the news out of cleveland, what was your first reaction? >> this was like inflating the balloon so it would carry me along for a while. i put all the news on my blog because i hope that michaela would see it. i hope she would see that it's possible to get help. it's possible to get free. >> the cleveland story also makes others believe. michaela's mother trying to keep interest in her daughter's case alive. for every amanda, gina and michelle, there are hundreds of michaelas. law enforcement estimates about 2,000 children go missing every single day in the u.s.

a small fraction of them are stranger danger abductions like the cleveland case, like the michaela case. >> sometimes i don't have anything hopeful to say. and yet i still keep reaching out to my daughter because if she is out there, she needs me to do that. >> her mother reaches in the only way she can, in cyberspace, on a blog called dear michaela. >> my heart is always waiting for you. have faith. have courage. come home. >> kyung lah, cnn, hayward, california. >> michaela's blog, when she went missing, most of us didn't have computers. thanks for watching everyone. "around the world" starts right after this break. [ male announcer ] zzzquil™ sleep-aid.

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