i hope this special report has helped you think about the future of terrorism more rationally. thank you for watching. i'm fareed zakaria. good morning, everyone. i'm brianna keilar at the cnn center in atlanta with a news update. new developments out of cleveland this morning. moments ago we heard from attorneys representing the three young women who were freed last week after a decade in captivity. cnn's national correspondent susan candiotti is in cleveland. she was at the news conference. susan, what did you learn? >> hi, brianna. coming to you from a very cold and windy cleveland this day, we're learning that amanda berry and her little girl, as well as gina dejesus and michelle knight are all spending this mother's day with family and/or friends. hearing this from a public

relations firm here in cleveland that has decided to represent these, these victims for free and, in fact, they told us that on behalf of their new clients now that they are enjoying this day and thankful for all the support they're getting and they wanted everyone to know this. >> amanda berry, gina dejesus and michelle knight are grateful for the general assistance and loving support of their family, friends and the community. they're also very grateful for the tireless efforts of the numerous law enforcement officials with the cleveland police department, the cuyahoga county sheriff, the fbi and the cuyahoga county office. amanda berry says, "thank you so much for everything you're doing and continue to do. i'm so happy to be home with my family." gina dejesus said, "i'm so happy to be home. i want to thank everyone for all

your prayers. i just want time now to be with my family." michelle knight says, "thank you to everyone for your support and good wishes. i am healthy, happy and safe. and will reach out to family, friends and supporters in good time." there have been numerous requests from the media to interview or speak with amanda berry, gina dejesus and micheice knight. in response to those requests, please understand this that they will not be participating in any interviews or speaking with any representatives of the media at this time. for the following reasons. first, there is a pending criminal investigation and prosecution. ms. berry, ms. dejesus and ms. knight are victim in that hearing and not in the best interest of anyone connected with that hearing for them to be making statements to the media while that proceeding is pending.

second, and most importantly, ms. berry, ms. dejesus and ms. knight have asked, in fact, have pleaded for privacy at this time so they can continue to heal and reconnect with their families and their lives. you all care greatly about their well being, so, please respect this most basic request. give them the time, the space and the privacy so that they can continue to get stronger. there may be a time at some point in the future that ms. berry, ms. dejesus and ms. knight may want to tell their stories. let me make this very clear that will not be while the criminal proceeding is pending and not be until they tell us they are ready to do so. >> now, again, this public relations firm representing these ladies for free also did not take any questions this day, but we did learn separately from

the cuyahoga county sheriff who attended this news conference along with the special agent in charge here in cleveland that the suspect in this case, ariel castro, had two visitors. he met with two lawyers, according to the sheriff. it is his belief that this happened on friday and these were two lawyers who might be representing mr. castro in the future. we'll have to see. brianna? >> we'll certainly be looking for that, susan. this pr firm that is serving these women pro bono. only part of the story out of cleveland. cnn has a world exclusive interview and i know you have part of it to share with us, susan. >> thank you. when ariel castro was arrested on charges of kidnapping and raping three women for over a decade in his cleveland home, police also arrested his two brothers. in fact, showing their faces to the world. in the minds of many people, all three are monsteres.

last week they released onil and pedro castro saying neither had anything to do with the torture and capture. now for the first time since their release, both men sat down and talked exclusively with cnn's martin savidge about their brother and their ordeal. they're grateful the young women and 6-year-old little girl are finally free and safe, but are haunted by missed clues, haunted by the media and are receiving death threats for something, they say, they did not do. >> do you weorry now that peopl will always suspect that you actually did have a role? >> absolutely. >> yes. >> and the people out there that know me, they know that onil castro is not that person. has nothing to do with that.

would never even think of something like that. i was a very liked person, individual. i have never had any enemies. no reason for anybody to think that i would ever do something like that. it's shock to all my friends. they couldn't believe it. >> i couldn't could never think of doing anything like that. if i knew that my brother was doing this, i would not, in a minute, i would call the cops. because that ain't right. but, yeah, it's going to haunt me down. because people are going to think pedro got something to do with this. and pedro don't have nothing to do with this. if i knew, i would have reported it, brother or no brother. >> a powerful and intriguing interview. brianna? >> susan candiotti, thank you

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challenging to cover. and when amanda berry, michelle knight and gina dejesus was freed a journalistic mob scene and no shortage of confusion. >> amanda berry, 27 years old, ready to address the press at any moment. >> so what apparently is going on there is amanda is going to be coming out to make some kind of a statement. >> we are waiting for that brief statement that amanda berry is going to make when she returns home. >> but, indeed, she is not ready to speech and her sister, beth, just came out. >> after ariel castro and his two brothers were arrested and the horrible details began to emerge, journalists struggled to make sense of the tragedy. >> she's the one in the center with the white tank top pictured here with a 6-year-old girl that police believe is her daughter. now, reports that there were other children, other pregnancies in this situation. but we've been unable to confirm that. >> multiple police sources saying there were three women

pregnant multiple times. it's not clear if more than one child was born. >> it looks as though his brothers helped him do that to help beat these women down, tie them up, to threaten them and terrify them. >> but it turns out that police cleared the other two brothers of any involvement in the kidnapping case. joining us now to examine how this story is being covered in new york, lola, a "today" show contributor and former "new york times" reporter. in chicago, jim warren for "new york daily news." and paul farhi, reporter for "washington post." lolo gogunnaike, as appalling as this kidnapping story is, is it close to wall-to-wall coverage it is get on television? >> i think it is, howie. let's face it, people are intrigued by this story. no one thought these women were alive. people held out hope and the fact that they are, indeed, alive. they do have this compelling story to tell, i can't imagine cameras turning away from this

at all. >> paul farhi, we just heard the statement saying the women are not doing any interviews and they have pleaded and asked for privacy at this time so they can heal and reconnect with their families. how likely the media is going to give them their privacy? >> network bookers trying to get those big interviews and cnn did very well getting the brothers who were accused on camera. >> so, if you can't get the three women, you get relatives, you get friends, anybody who can paint a picture. >> any element of the story you can get and put it on television. >> is that a problem, jim warren. the three women that have been through this horrible, almost unimaginable ordeal and, yet, naturally, journalists doing their jobs want to find out as much as they can about who these women are and what they went through. >> i mean, if they want privacy, sadly, they'll have to be jetted to, i think, seclusion in nepal because it's not going to happen within the confines of north

america. and that can be expected. i mean, it's a stunning story that operates on, obviously, so many levels. it plays to all of our primal fears about our kids. there's just enough of a salacious in there and then there's actually serious matters of public policy, particularly how law enforcement treats all members of the community. all neighborhoods in a big city, if they do that equally. it's not just relevant to cleveland. but, lord knows how the phone is going to be ringing off the hook, 24/7 at that pr firm. and they'll say no and at some point they'll probably say yes to the most alluring bidder. >> a consensus at the media, we're not going to back off this story any time soon. l l lola, as the bbc pointed out, published 36 articles on amanda berry and 19 on gina dejesus and that disparity taps into what i

would call the missing white women syndrome. the young, attractive white women that go missing or murdered tend to get more attention from the main stream media. >> i think it's absolutely true. there's evidence that proves that to be the case. a blonde, attractive white women will no doubt get more attention than her counterparts of color. that's an unfortunate reality. organizations like black and missing were created to address that matter. and, unfortunately, until the media realizes that all people that go missing are deserving of media attention, not just people who look a certain way. we're going to be talk aing about this for years to come. >> let's ask about the demand then. the demand end is that the audience likes these stories, particularly women. who was interested in the jodi arias trial? it was women mostly interested and women relating to these victims, these perpetrators in a way that they respond to that story. >> justify this obvious imbalance. >> if the job of the media is to

tell people things that they're interested in, yes, in so far as the audience wants to see people like themselves. >> i find that troubling if the audience, many of whom for certain networks or news organizations may be is less interested in cases of minority victims, minority kidnap victims, murdered minority women. i don't know that we should go along with that. >> the job of the, i'm sorry, the job of the media is to provide the news and not just news about missing white women. news about missing black children, missing black people and missing people in general and the news doesn't one one community. >> howie. >> go ahead, jim. biases and prejudices and priorities in a lot of our newsrooms which are dominated by caucasians. at the same time, this is absolutely nothing new. if you look at the history of journalism going back to newspapers at the time of the

american revolution, an obsession with these source of subjects. this is on par with the 1892 coverage of lizzy borden and her alleged ex-murders of her father and the detail that came out there that riveted the country in some ways, almost supersedes what's played out -- nothing knew. >> thanks for that historical perspective. one african-american who got a lot of attention in this story, charles ramsey. he heard the cries of amanda berry and broke that door down and led to the rescue of her and her 6-year-old child. let's take a brief look at one interview done by cnn's anderson cooper. >> do you feel like a hero? >> no. no. i'm a christian, an american and i'm just like you. we bleed same blood, put our pants

pants. >> being greeted as a hero. were the media to record him hero status, do you think? >> i don't think the media was too quick to report him hero status because what he did was heroic and the first person to tell you that he he was not a hero. what he did was heroic. that said, i do think the 24-hour news cycle requires a new story every day. se, so, on one day he's a hero and second day he's a joke and on the third day this hero has been tainted. >> on that point, paul farhi, the cleveland affiliate ran a story saying charles ramsey, who was thrust into the news because he did a heroic thing, no question about that. had a criminal past and had domestic abuse violence in his past. and then the station apologized saying, well, the story was true, but it wasn't in good taste to report that. really? >> it probably wasn't exactly relevant, but we do want to find out about the people who are in the news and, perhaps that's a

detail that people want to know. i don't find it especially compelling. he is a hero. and he did do something heroic. he is part of the story, part of this narrative. the guy who rescues the damsels in the distress. that's important. his criminal past not quite so relevant. >> jim warren, some of these awful details that begun to emerge about the rapes and the beatings and the chains and all that, what i would describe as torture. should some of that be withheld or softened by the media? i mean, it is hard to read. it is hard to hear how much of the raw stuff do we need to report? >> yeah, no, i agree. and the making of the saumakes s unavoidable. and the era in which howie, you, me, paul have eight or ten hours sitting in a news paper newsroom to evaluate these questions and

etails.and whether or not weme the horse is out of the barn there. when you throw bitterly competitive online pressures and something we have not talked about now seem the lower pars ef entry to many of our websites in the media and nontia launshchal making mistakes. we can correct that. i think it is nice that there will still be some news organizations that will say, no, a, b and c we're not going to include but a majority that will go with every little tidbit they can get, no matter how salacious. >> i'm glad cnn martin savidge got that interview with the two brothers of ariel castro because there was that all three brothers and we can hear in their own words that they were cleared and not only shocked and horrified, but said they would have turned in their brother, ariel. as this story was erupting on

the airwaves and everywhere else came the verdict in the jodi arias murder trial. she is guilty of first degree murder. i wonder, lola whether that story, which was packaged and sensationalized by television was worth being treated on a par with the awful details of the cleveland kidnapping case? >> absolutely not. but this case was going on for the better part of five months and what you saw here was a news media that was obsessed with this. that they were practically salivating over jodi arias. you had sex, religion and a pretty blonde and they couldn't resist this story. it was like it was handed to them from the tabloid heavens. >> what was really rather unusual, shall we say, after that conviction which means jodi arias faces the possibility of the death penalty she gave an

interview. talked about how she wanted to die than spend the rest of her life in prison and she also said this. >> do you have a sense of where the public feeling is about you, whether you're liked or not liked? >> psychologist once explained to me that society has this need to persecute people. they get some sort of gratification from it. >> talks about persecuting people. this woman is a murderer. >> yes, well, i'm not sure how great her credibility is on the social sciences, but, look, it is true that this was a packaged television story. television was deeply invested in it and no way that they were going to cut away from that verdict. >> yet, still seems it me that the legitimate drama and the awful tragedy of what happened to the three women in cleveland, jim warren, far outweighs the obsession that particularly television had with what was essentially a local murder case that had a lot of sex in it. very graphic and, therefore, made for great soap opera.

>> and a lot of murder cases that are sexy and have a lot of graphic details that will confine every single week probably in major american cities. would this have been played in the way it was if it were not for having the video for, if it were not for having cameras in the courtroom. i went to a dinner last night with a bunch of prominent federal appeals court judges in chicago. the sort of folks who are still standing out against having cameras in the courtroom and i'm all for that. but, boy, at times like this, i wonder whether, would we be better off -- >> we'll leave it there on that note, jim. thanks for joining us. when we come back, we'll go to cleveland and talk to columnist connie shultz about the impact on the family as. i'm here at my house on thanksgiving day, and i have a massive heart attack right in my driveway. the doctor put me on a bayer aspirin regimen.

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continuing our scrutiny of the cleveland kidnapping coverage. connie schultz for parade

magazine. welcome. conn connie, we were talking in the last segment about how amanda berry seems to have gotten more media attention both during her disappearance and since she and the other two women were freed from the press and why is that and whether there might be any kind of racial or ethnic component to it. your thoughts? >> i do want to push back a little bit on that discussion because amanda berry, during the time when she was missing, her mother never gave up, hammering away at the media and at the police and at the fbi and regina brett, my former colleague has written about that a great deal because her mother constantly called regina and she has been talking about that this week. i covered gender and race for more than 30 years. much of it here in the city of cleveland and i would call it immediately if i thought that was the issue. i think she's getting more coverage since because she was the one who screamed for help and whose screams were heard and she got out and the other women were freed. we have to be careful about

drawing too many assumptions about that particular part of the story. >> people forget that the media tend to go where families are cooperating. for example, the new issue of "people" magazine three women freed in ohio and two pictures. one of amanda berry and two of gina dejesus. no michelle knight. michelle knight has not yet reunited with her family. is that, in part, explain this disparity in coverage after the women were freed? >> i think it can. we have to be careful about what we do with access. one of your panelists talked about how we're going to be filling in all the blanks because the young women don't want to talk. i would really caution us against that because you and i have been in the business for a long time and new found experts on people's lives, even if they knew very little about their lives before. we have to tread gently here because we don't gain anything by getting wrong information. we do a disservice to the these young women who have been victimized for ten years.

let us not keep on that and let us dial it back a bit. sometimes we have to be patient and it's not our strong suit in this industry. >> speaking of dialing it back and treading lightly. you didn't want to do the interview this morning at the stake out where a lot of the networks have satellite trucks in front of the family's homes and the reason for that was -- >> thank you for asking me that. this is my town. and these people are in that neighborhood are traumatized by this, as well. and i can't imagine what it is like for these young women and family members if they're seeing all the trucks parked outside the house and outside the homes and i saw that image this morning, it may have been on cnn of one of the one woman in a hoody and a neighbor trying to protect her as she runs into her house for the first time in ten years and i thought we're victimizing these women, too. they're in hiding. i don't agree with the panelists who said they're going to perhaps leave north america to have privacy. i agree that may be the case, but let us not say in part

because it's who we are. we can do this better. when you see images like that and you see tents and cable crews outside these homes what it telegraphs to viewers. it chips away at our credibility with a public that is already less trustful of us. >> let me stay with that point because i understand that news organizations are there because the journalists have a job to do. you want to shout a question. but this is a heartbreaking case of women who were held in captivity under the noses of neighbors who say they didn't know for ten years. and, now, in effect, the mass media presence there is forcing them to stay behind closed doors. is that really what's happening? >> we had a helicopter, do you remember that earlier this week? there was helicopter footage of the homes as they were waiting for them to come home. to me, i could not watch that and hear all these so-called

former fbi who are experts on these women. the television judges and the speculation got wilder and wilder and all the things that they're supposing these women have gone through. you know, these young women are the ages of my daughters. i can't help but also come at this as a mother and i was feeling so angry during much of this coverage because it contributed nothing to the discussion of domestic violence and to sexual abuse. it contributed nothing to showing a community, helping a community show support for these women. i understand it's not the media's job to help the community do that, but it's also not our job to be such a corrosive influence while we're here. >> i think that's a really invaluable perspective and the fact that you're there in cleveland and this is your community, as you say. connie schultz, thanks for joining us this morning. >> thanks, howie. ahead on "reliable sources" the press and benghazi. main stream journalists finally getting serious about investigating the aftermath of those fatal attacks snp

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benghazi has gotten plenty of coverage but the story faded since the election except conservative media outlets. >> the main stream and left stream media said, well, you know, benghazi is a bit of a joke in some respects. >> three state department officials offered stinging criticism of the handling of the terror attack. the story roared back into the headlines, but not everyone took the same approach. >> simple truth is, republicans want to know the whole story because it embarrasses the democrats. >> helped confirm once and for all that in the wake of the terrorist attack, the obama administration engaged in a widespread national security cover up and all done simply to ensure that president obama was re-elected. >> today the republican smear machine was in high gear with another hearing on the deadly attack on our consulate in benghazi. >> the line from the republicans in congress was not something that should be seen as an

attack. that is something that should be seen as a conspiracy and a scandal. >> is the main stream press with some fresh reporting now starting to do the job it should have done all along? jimgarity, contributing editor at "national review." margaret carlson and bob cusack. on fox news and others contend. >> yes. in the media circles if the conservative press is amtrusted in something, that delegitimizes it. we can't pay too much attention to that. i think conservative media does a pretty good job and even if you think we're like a broken clock. like the questions from day one were there. my goodness, how could this not be so protected? what was done that night? we never got good answers. there's always been a ton of questions there.

>> at the same time, margaret carlson, have conservative outlets hiked this into crusade with talk of impeachment? >> yeah, those whacky guys that jim is not part of did go too far. you know, they've been looking for watergate for so long that, you know, they went too far on benghazi. they were making it into this huge impeachable and some use the word impeachable offense without much and now, you know, the white house in some ways is paid into their hands. i was one of these people that hillary clinton did a great job at her hearings and did a great job only if the information was out there. >> maybe the question, bob cusack, whether the media have framed this story as one where the initial attack, in response to the attack was bungled and the aftermath was confused. we have known that for a long time or framed it as a scandal where there is some sort of active cover up? >> it is black and white, depending which media outlet is. one area the media has fallen down on, who did this attack?

four americans died. there hasn't been a lot of focus on the al qaeda-linked group of who is responsible. we have seen a lot of fingerpointing, but not a lot of reporting on that. >> what really seemed to turn the tide after the hearing this week, we'll get back to the hearing in a moment. jonathan karl reporting, actually obtaining 12 different versions of the famous talking points used by susan rice on five sunday talk shows after the attack. we have already known the talking points turned out to be wrong in some respects but we saw in jonathan's reporting that certain references were taken out to an al qaeda-affiliated group and based on state department officials and this was a process overseen by the white house. that erupted at a briefing held by white house spokesman jay carney. let's take a brief look at that. >> jay, you told us the only changes that were made were stylistic. is it a stylistic change to take out all references to previous terror threats in benghazi? >> i appreciate the question,

again. and i think what i was referring to was the talking points that the cia drafted and sent around to which one change was made and i accept its stylistic may not precisely describe the change of one word to another. no, i'm just -- >> extensive changes after they were written by the cia. >> sure. >> there were other reporters who joined jonathan karl at that briefing and now seems, jim, that some many in the main stream media are on the case. >> they should be on the case. they should be angry because that carney line from way back when of this being just a stylistic, that was horse, you know the word i wanted to use there. the white house press corps should be mad when the press secretary goes out there and gives them false information. >> style cyistic is what they d my copy and because the white house wasn't forthcoming and has an evolving story, they'll get blamed for the disagreements between state and cia that were

being played out on those talking points. >> an interesting back story here is that before that on camera briefing there was a -- and another interesting side bar, bob, is that five or six days ago steve hayes at the weekly standard had the same story, not in the same detail as jon karl did and he had examples and he had quotes. it didn't get anywhere near the attention that it did when abc news reported it. >> i think it's the lens. steve hayes is a good reporter and been reporting on this extensively. >> too easy for people to say, oh, that's the weekly standard. >> he's bias, but, clearly, he had the information, as well, and not getting the credit that jonathan karl did. but i do think, if you look at the timeline of how this administration dealt with benghazi. a lot of contradictions from the get go. the media hasn't looked at it as extensively as they should have. >> some people say that is

either because the media are protecting the administration, protecting hillary clinton because, obviously, a lot of people see this as a proxy attack on somebody who could run in 2016. is there something to that criticism? >> i think the focus on hillary clinton was a bit delayed. a lot of news organizations didn't realize or didn't report that this really could be an issue for her going forward and, of course, in 2016, in the political context. >> one person who has been singled out by the right are doing aggressive reporting is cheryl acanson who has tweeted a number of things on how the administration has -- she received tremendous push back was one quote from the administration and asking for all kinds of documents and she has intentions with her bosses who maybe thing she's being a little too aggressive on the story. >> almost as if the -- that's the only thing that could explain it. certainly that's not the case, right, howard? >> explain what you mean. >> david -- >> but isn't that a little

unfair to suggest that cbs news is in any way reining in its reporter because a family relationship. >> gee, the only reporter that is really digging into benghazi. here she's getting great scoops and great stories that people in my world are talking about a lot and folks at cbs news, this is problematic that she's generating good information that nobody else has. >> they're not saying that on the record. reports of tensions that have not been confirmed. >> we don't know if we find out that she was being in her reporting, we'll go back to jim's thesis here. >> what about the hearing itself and you had former state department official testify that he was demoted after challenging and criticizing the handling of it and the administration said he was given a temporary assignment after he wanted to leave his previous work. this official, greg hicks i believe is his name also saying some people were not interviewed as part of the investigation. was there a lot of new information at the hearing for the media to cover or more

fahder for those who think there is some kind of cover up? >> i think there was new information. but the media needs the anti-hero to come forward. >> the anti-hero. >> and rat on the bosses. and say what really happened. we didn't have another face to put on benghazi. and now we have it. the other thing back to your point is that because the right wing went so far on this story, it's watergate, it's impeachable, we couldn't hear steven hayes in the weekly standard. it did take somebody who is just a meat and potatoes reporter. >> don't cite the nut job and steven hayes is not to be lishened to. this is a huge conspiracy and aliens are involved and my dog is talking to me. you can use it as an excuse to not cover something. >> it was just a constant drum beat and they weren't doing any reporting. >> it is our job to make a distinction between people who

are commentators and opinionators who maybe go too far in accusing the administration. >> a reporter, by the way. but, yes, he gets mixed up. >> i think that story deserved a lot more attention. another story that deserves a lot more attention is the story of this irs scandal where the irs is now acknowledging having targeting and conservative organizations, tea party organizations and put out by the administration that this was low-level people but now a number of organizations including cnn obtaining information from the inspector general that a top official at the irs knew about these selective audits, if oaudit is the right word. i think it is getting underplayed right now. chris christie scolds the press over the reporting on his stomach surgery.

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what you all do but this is silly. for this kind of attention to be drawn to the fact that i'm pursuing a weight loss measure is, i think, shows just how really shallow a lot of this coverage has become. >> do you feel shallow? >> so very shallow. that man has surgery to possibly run for president. that headline is irresistible to the media and it's not a complicated story. it is not benghazi. it is not the irs. it is a simple story. i would give the two guy two motives. he is 50, has young children. he wants to see them 0 grow up and bairks you are running for president. not since william taft -- >> i have a problem with the way you summarized it. >> maybe chris christie doesn't think it is anyone's business is thinking of his health and family and decided to run for president and we want to frame it in 2016 terms.

>> he is a public official and this is part of the game of politics. haley barber said if i run for president if i lose 50 pounds. >> can he have surgery in secret and scold the media done. >> i wonder how many reporters have had surgery to make themselves look better. i know more than i cared to know about his digestive track and we would be better if we focus on the legislative output of the governor than the digestive output track of the governor. it. >> is a simple story. we can all relate it to. there are a lot of overweight people in america. we speculate. the media speculates who is running for president. >> he is the governor of the state of nmg new jersey and a legitimate story. some of the chatter i could do without. >> mark sanford completed his comeback by winning back his old

congressional seat and what struck me is that he made the rounds and did a lot of interviews in which he knew over and over he would be asked about his argentine soul mate and he did it any way. i wonder if that helped him while bush did no national interviews i could find. >> she ran from the media and the press made fun of him in the interviews and the nancy pelosi cutout we made fun of that because it kept falling over and we criticized him for things i think worked for him. >> he faced the music in form of facing journalists and was written off by fellow pundits saying he's in a spat with his ex-wife. never going to win the election and yet he did and won easily. >> everyone was judging him based on the argentine nan scandal. >> it's a very republican

district. >> that's the underlying thing. he was aggressive and colbert was too cautious. the fact he dealt with the weakness upfront. >> such an argument. hillary clinton, get it all out. >> i think it is an argument for talking to the president not running a rose garden campaign. particularly when you are not the incumbent. thank you for stopping by this sunday morning. still to come, brian williams gets bad news from nbc. some disturbing disclosures about bloomberg news and a former fox pro-diers has an expensive day in court. the media monitor is straight ahead. ays here that cheerios helps lower cholesterol as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you still have to go to the gym. ♪ the one and only, cheerios ♪ the one and only, cheerios

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time for the media monitor. our look at the hits and errors in the news business. brian williams gaift his best shot but they couldn't get much traction. they cancelled rock center a year and a half after its debut. it did i solid journalism by the likes of ted koppel and richard engel but weak feature segments and a crowded identity and the network changed the time slot so many times even i couldn't remember when it was gg on. they admit they used the

financial data terminals which clients paid big bucks to use to snoop on how often wall street executives logged on and the category of information they looked at. the spying, according to cnbc extended to ben bernanke and tim geithner. a breach of the law. finally the man known as the fox -- paid a price in court this week. the fox news producer fired after writing stories for gawker was escorted in the courtroom in handcuffs. he was fined $1,000 and donate the $5,000 he received from gawker and perform substantial community service. fox was right it turns out. this mole broke the law. that's it for this edition of "reliable sources." happy mother's day. if you miss a program go to itunes and check out our podcast by searching for "reliable sources" in the itunes tomorrow.

next sunday we will have another look at the media. "state of the union" with candy crowley begins now. double trouble for the administration, benghazi and the irs. >> today the irs admits the agents targeted tea party group for extra scrutiny. >> i don't think you accidentally focus on the tea party but it wouldn't be the first time the irs has been used for political purposes. >> our exclusive with susan collins of maine on the irs and benghazi. >> the white house has done everything possible to block access to the information that would outline the truth. >> before, during and after the attack. former ambassador thomas pickering is part of a panel that looked in it to all. he joins us. and a shocking pentagon report estimating 25,000 sexual assaults are committed every year in military. >> this