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tonight, we turn the spotlight on a veteran's hospital where deadly germs festered and top management knew all about it. patients died and the area va chief, he got a bonus. also, tonight, remember this? a rutgers coach flipping out at his players? it cost him and his boss their jobs. but now the new sports boss at rutgers, university, she is facing questions herself about her own anger management. and the latest in yet another cruise ship nightmare. what passengers went through when fire broke out at sea. we begin with a fresh batch this holiday. a scare today on new york's brooklyn bridge. a suspicion suv.
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but there were serious and substantial items, too. police in britain arresting a tenth person in connection with that brutal murder of a british soldier last week. the man taken into custody in the southeastern town of welling is being held on suspicion of conspiracy to commit murder. a british citizen back in 2010 was kicked out of kenya after kenya police arrested him on suspicion of planning to join a group of islamic extremists and have carried out suicide attacks. mean time, in france, the search is on for a would-be copy cat. someone stabbed a soldier in the neck over the weekend just outside paris. the soldier is recovering. joining us now is national analyst who currently sits on the c.i.a. advisory committee. if authorities are accurate,
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this would seem to be not so alone? >> we don't really know. when we saw the attack perpetrated, this inclination was to think it was a lone wolf. as the british begin to pick up these people, did they help him? we understand from british press reports that their version, the british version of the f.b.i. may have approached him about cooperating. you don't do that. who does he have access to?
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>> there's a real extremist problem, extremist threat in london. british authorities have over the last decade really been overwhelmed with it.
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nic robertson did a report some time ago, he had his audiotapes of his sermons circulating in the extremist muslim community in london so this is a real challenge for british authorities. >> also now this attack outside paris. authorities aren't saying for sure that it's an act of terror, though the terrorist squad is investigating, trying to hunt down the man who is alleged to have done this but it seems pretty obvious it's some sort of copycat or inspired by kind of attack. >> that's right. they don't have anyone in custody. they have not said if they have identified the individual that they're looking for. they are looking for an individual. it does seem because of the timing that it may be inspired. i'll say on this memorial day weekend, all of us are out sort of remembering the sacrifices of those who have given their lives. you talk to military service members and to a person, they say you know, it's a chilling reminder that when we interact with the public, that could happen anywhere. it could happen here, it's not
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just a british or french problem. it could happen anywhere. >> and these attacks are very unsophisticated, and frankly, anybody can kind of do them if they so, you know, are inclined. >> that's right. you know, remember that video in london of the guy with the meat cleaver and butcher knife. it was horrible. but those are all things that are readily available to somebody who wanted to commit one of these attacks. >> appreciate it. thanks for the update. in the memorial day spirit that fran was talking about, we're keeping them honest. on a part of a promise that we make as a country to the people who defend it. today at arlington national cemetery, president obama laid a wreath at the tomb of the unknowns and spoke about the debt that we owe the men and women who fall in battle and everyone who has worn the uniform. >> this memorial day and every day, let us be true and meet that promise. let it be our task every single one of us to honor the strength and the resolve and the love these brave americans felt for each other and for our country. >> every day, though, veterans
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are reminded how far short the country falls. according to the "new york times" nearly 600,000 vets have been waiting for more than four months for action on disability claims. more than 600,000. tonight, there is this. as we first reported back in december, the veterans administration hospital in pittsburgh had high levels of legionella bacteria in its water supply but for months failed to solve the problem and worse, failed to tell staff and patients. they knew about it, they just didn't tell anybody. five patients died. now the inspector general confirms what we have been telling you, hospital administrators knew they had a problem and failed to fix it. on top of that, the pittsburgh v.a.'s top administrator got a bonus. drew griffin tonight is keeping them honest. >> reporter: this is what happens when you try to get to the bottom of what went on here at the v.a. hospital at pittsburgh. >> how are you? drew griffin with cnn.
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nice to see you. >> if this has not been approved by our public affairs office, i cannot let you in. >> reporter: want to call them and see -- >> i cannot technically call them. can you take the camera back across the street until we have authorization, please? >> reporter: we can only guess the reason they don't want us around is because they would have to answer for this. a scathing new report from the veterans administration's own inspector general says legionella, a bacteria that can kill, was flowing through the pittsburgh v.a. hospital's water system. the v.a.'s administrators knew it but instead of correctly following government guidelines on how to get rid of it, the report concludes the v.a. tried to treat the water using a method that was not an accepted practice, and will not eradicate legionella, even temporarily. and it wasn't just some minor mistake. it killed american veterans seeking treatment at the hospital.
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>> it's a complete breakdown which in essence becomes a betrayal of what we say we care about. >> reporter: senator bob casey is livid. the v.a. hospital in his state not only failed to treat the legionella but also failed to notify patients and even staff that it existed in the water. as a result, five veterans died, 16 more became ill. sandy riley's brother, a 65-year-old navy veteran being treated for cancer, died in this hospital on july 4th of last year. at the time, she was led to believe her brother must have contracted legionaire's disease somewhere else. now she knows her brother mitch died because he came to the v.a. >> there were deaths before him that we didn't know about. we wouldn't have gone there. i'm sure he wouldn't have gone there whatsoever. he wouldn't have wanted to take that risk because he was actually getting better. he had a good outlook on life. he felt he had more time left. >> reporter: records obtained by
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cnn show that in 2011 and 2012, there wasn't enough disinfectant in the v.a.'s water to prevent the bacteria from reaching dangerous levels. while the maintenance department tried and failed to control the problem, the hospital staff and patients weren't told a thing. it wasn't until months later drinking fountains were sealed off and patients stopped getting baths and showers. it was about the same time dave nicholas saw his father take a turn for the worse. his dad, a world war ii vet, had gone into the hospital to recoup from dehydration. he died the day after thanksgiving from legionaire's disease. >> being a veteran myself, i'm shocked and appalled that the v.a. would put their veterans in that type of situation. >> reporter: as we showed you, the hospital has been refusing to answer any questions about what happened and why. in fact, when cnn came to the hospital looking for answers in december, we were met by armed federal guards who told us we
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did not have permission to even set foot on the hospital's property. we do know the pittsburgh v.a. has issued a statement saying it is now implementing the improvements recommended by the inspector general report. but that's not good enough for congressman jeff miller, chairman of the house committee on veterans affairs. earlier this month, miller toured yet another v.a. facility outside atlanta, where an inspector general's report linked mismanagement to the death of three patients. miller says his committee is doing its own investigation into the pittsburgh outbreak. he's complained in a letter to the president that the v.a.'s answers so far have been insufficient and unacceptable. and that's not all. believe it or not, people in leadership positions, while the outbreak happened, are being rewarded. the biggest reward goes to the v.a.'s regional director, michael moreland, a $63,000
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bonus for his excellent work in 2012. again, this is during the same time as the outbreak. it's almost as if they're afraid to take the toughest disciplinary action that needs to be taken. that is to fire somebody. >> let me get this straight. while this outbreak is going on, the leadership are getting performance bonuses? >> reporter: that's right, anderson. in 2011, the year that the outbreak started, the v.a. leadership got performance bonuses and in 2012, last year, regional director michael moreland got basically top honors, a presidential distinguished rank award that comes with $63,000 in bonus money. the families of the victims here tell us it feels like a slap in the face. it sounded so ridiculous we actually called the v.a. again to make sure we had it right, and they said yes, we do have it right. but they also told us they're now conducting a review of just how this award is handed out. >> is it possible, could these deaths have been prevented? >> reporter: the inspector
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general's report doesn't state that. but it's clear that there were things that could have been done to make sure the water was clean and to test the patients properly. that was not done. but i will tell you, many scientists that we've talked to in this story say absolutely, the deaths could and should have been prevented. >> unbelievable. drew, thanks for the reporting. appreciate it. let us know what you think. follow us on twitter. next, rutgers university tries to get past the firing of its belligerent men's basketball coach. remember the one who used all sorts of slurs against players? so why is now the university in hot water again about their new pick? is the school repeating the same mistake? we'll tell you ahead. should jodi arias get the death penalty for the murder of her ex-boyfriend? we will hear from one juror who says yes. she'll tell us why the jury she'll tell us why the jury deadlocked on that decision. i'm the next american success story. working for a company where over seventy-five percent of store management started as hourly associates. there's opportunity here. i can us walmart's education benefits to get a degree, maybe work in it,
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welcome back. there's new controversy at rutgers university to tell you about. you remember rutgers used to be home of mike rice, the men's basketball coach, who was caught using all sorts of slurs against
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his players. >> [ bleep ] you're a [ bleep ]. >> that language speaks for itself. he's also seen on tape slamming his players with basket balls and shoving them around. after hiring and firing mike rice and the athletic director who tolerated his verbal and physical abuse of players, you would think that the last thing administrators and trustees at that university would want is to do the same thing again, or have more controversy. but some now believe that they're about to do just that. troubling questions have come up about a woman named julie herrmann, the newly hired athletic director. even governor chris christie got involved. here's randi kaye. >> reporter: on paper, she looks like the healer and the visionary rutgers needs to rescue its athletic program. under julie herrmann's watch, six years at the university of tennessee, the lady vols
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advanced to the ncaa tournament for the first time in a decade. but herrmann's former tennessee players are raising a red flag. in 1996, the team wrote this letter, spilling stories of mental cruelty, accusing their coach of calling them [ expletive ] alcoholics and learning disabled. the letter was published sunday in newark's "star-ledger" newspaper. this was julie herrmann at her introductory press conference at rutgers before such sordid details came to light. >> it is a new days, it's already fixed and there's nobody who doesn't agree about how we treat young people with respect and dignity and build trust. >> reporter: kim is one of the lady vols who alleged abuse under herrmann. >> isn't that ironic, of all the people that they can hire, you know, someone who has actually done that kind of thing to me, you know, and to others. >> reporter: herrmann had great success for years as the assistant athletic director for the university of louisville, but the accusations against her from former tennessee players sound strikingly similar to the physical and verbal abuse that
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recently led rutgers to fire basketball coach mike rice. and this isn't the only thing putting herrmann on the defensive. she's had to answer questions about an old lawsuit by former assistant coach ginger heinline, who claimed herrmann fired her because she got pregnant. heinline won a $150,000 settlement. not helping matters, this 1994 video obtained by the "star-ledger" that shows herrmann, a bridesmaid at heinline's wedding, talking about pregnancy. herrmann was asked at her news conference about the video. her response? >> there's a video? i'm sorry, did you say there's a video? there's no video, trust me. >> reporter: the video also shows herrmann catching the bouquet. after seeing the video for herself, she explained in a news statement she simply hadn't remembered it from nearly 20 years ago.
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the university says its attorneys had investigated this case before herrmann was hired. several supporters are coming to herrmann's defense. tennessee's former athletic director, joan croning told the "star-ledger" herrmann is quote, one of the most outstanding administrators in the country. and kim tibbetts, another former assistant coach, told espn quote, what they are saying is crazy. i was by julie's side in every meeting and every practice and she never did what they're saying. it seems julie herrmann was no intention of stepping down. in a statement late monday, she admitted being an intense coach, but said there is a vast difference between high intensity and abusive behavior. she said she has every intention of bringing her passion and experience to her role as athletic director for rutgers university.
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she's due to start june 17th. anderson? >> randi, thanks very much. let's dig deeper on the line between intensity and abuse and what kind of due diligence rutgers actually did. for that we're joined by rachel nichols and craig wolf of the newark "star-ledger" who broke the story. what do you make of this? what the coach is saying is that word is not in her vocabulary, she never would have used it. now you have 15 players saying she routinely used it and saying they wrote this letter and presented it to her in a meeting and the coach is saying she has no memory of the meeting ever happening. >> i think this is a huge problem on a couple different levels. yes, i certainly think that there's a chance for her to evolve and to change over 15 years, that's what some supporters have said, that even if she did do these things, people are entitled to second chances. maybe she is a great athletic director. maybe she could go on to be a great athletic director at another school. that doesn't mean she's the right fit for this school right now. this is a school that not only employed a coach who mentally and physically abused his players, but then kept it quiet for months, didn't do anything about it until it was leaked to the media that this was going on. so you would think that of
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anybody else they would cast the net for to become their new athletic director, that person would have to have none of this in their past no matter what kind of person they are now. it also brings into question the oversight of this school. what is happening at this place that you could have hired this person in the first place, that you wouldn't have checked into these allegations. none of these former players say that they were contacted. in fact, the woman who we just saw in the piece who sued for pregnancy discrimination says she was never contacted either. >> what kind of due diligence did they actually do. craig, it is kind of amazing because again, miss herrmann's statement is puzzling because on the one hand she said look, we all make mistakes when we're young and she's evolved and she's tried to always learn from her mistakes. she doesn't name what any of those alleged mistakes were, and yet she says point blank, she never used those words, she wasn't abusive, and she has no memory of 15 of her players coming to her and confronting
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her with a letter and walking out of the meeting and saying i'm giving up coaching, i'm not going to coach you guys, and that was the last time she ever spoke to them. so she seems to be kind of having it both ways. >> yeah. i suppose, you know, in its entirety, and i think this is what has a lot of officials in new jersey certainly puzzled and concerned, in its entirety, you know, there seems to be something of a thread in that she can't remember having been at the wedding, she cannot remember the letter that the students wrote, she cannot remember details of a meeting where the players say that they essentially confronted her and the athletic director at tennessee. so yeah, that seems to be a common thread. i think she is in some ways pained by these old allegations.
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it is painful for a teacher or coach to hear that she hasn't had a positive effect after all these years. but i think these credibility issues are a concern to political leaders around the state and i think it's something that she may well have to deal with in the coming days. >> and governor christie has said that he wants to look into it but he didn't want to make any comment yet because he hasn't. >> let me ask you a question. how many women do you know have been bridesmaids in a wedding and don't remember it. any? do you remember any women who have actually bought the dress, gone to all the stuff and don't even remember it? there is also saying oh, she left coaching, she left coaching -- >> also, if you were a coach and 15 of your players confront you with a letter saying you called us [ expletive ], learning disabled, all sorts of horrible things, and you turn around and don't say anything, just say i'm
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stopping coaching you and walk out, that would seem to be pretty memorable. i remember things my coaches said to me in college and you know, they stick with you. >> here's the concern. craig just brought up a great word. students/teacher. that is the relationship here with the coach, students in college, this is not the pros, you are supposed to be teaching these kids how to act in the world. and what we're seeing from her even today, forget what happened 15 years ago, is that when somebody brings up issues from your past, when somebody wants to talk to you about things that you might have done wrong, she's saying the way to handle it, duck and cover, pretend you don't remember it. if you were a student at rutgers, if you were a parent bringing your kids there, if you are a new jersey taxpayer paying for this school, is that what we want to be teaching those kids? >> if i may, i think what's also interesting is that these players had not organized any particular kind of campaign.
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>> right. >> of any kind to discredit her or to hurt her. they received a phone call from a reporter. >> right. and in fact, a lot of them, i interviewed one of them earlier today says look, i don't really -- i have forgiven her, i would have liked an apology but i've moved on, i'm having a great life, i myself as a coach, i've learned what not to do as a coach from the way she coached us. but i don't have any ill will against her and maybe she could be a good administrator. so i think that's an important point. these women are not coming forward with some sort of vendetta against her. >> well, one of the young -- i was going to say young women. they're in their mid 30s. but one of them did use the word either vengeance or revenge in talking about it with me but it was in the context of when she gets her angriest is when she feels that her college experience, that she lost it, that it was -- she was deprived of it. and i think, you know, when i
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reached out to them it was as if i were sort of picking at a scab that was still hurting. and i think as the days went on, it was interesting because at first they did not want to speak on the record and then ultimately, over the next few days, they did. so there is, you know, a credibility about them. that's not, again, to -- that doesn't necessarily argue against julie herrmann, but the players seem authentic. these are people are young families and young careers who say that, you know, they don't have any particular motivation to harm her. >> yeah. it's fascinating. we'll see what happens. craig, appreciate your reporting. rachel, great to have you on the show. let me know what you think. talk about it on twitter right now. coming up, fire breaking out on a royal caribbean cruise ship. more than 3,000 people on board. stuff just keeps on happening. we'll get the latest. also ahead, a retrial for
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fire broke out on a royal caribbean cruise ship heading for the bahamas, ending the trip for about 2200 passengers, 800 crew members. the fire was put out just before 5:00 in the morning. royal caribbean says there were no medical emergencies but passengers describing pretty scary moments. erin mcpike has the story. >> reporter: the entire back end of a massive ship, scorched. more than 2200 passengers aboard a bahamas-bound cruise were roused by a terrifying wake-up call overnight. >> boats have been lowered, here i am in the life jacket, not a drill, not a drill. i was freaking out. >> reporter: for the third time this year, mechanical problems caused a major cruise ship to upend a caribbean vacation for thousands of passengers. this time, it was a fire aboard royal caribbean's "grandeur of the seas."
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passenger katy coleman told cnn -- >> it was the most terrifying thing like in my life. >> reporter: in february, it was an engine room fire on the carnival "triumph" shutting down power and the ship's sewage system for days. one month later, carnival's "dream" lost power from a generator failure while in port. and now, rival royal caribbean has its own set of problems. royal caribbean said in a statement at approximately 2:50 a.m., "grandeur of the seas" experienced a fire on the mooring area of deck three. the fire has since been extinguished but in an abundance of caution, the captain deemed it necessary to muster all guests at their assembly stations. all passengers were found and safe but some took to the message board of cruise critic and famed there was fainting and vomiting as they waited for hours. the ship was just renovated last year. this morning, it was rerouted to freeport for evaluation and royal caribbean's ceo adam goldstein is already surveying
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the damage. the national transportation safety board and the coast guard will investigate. >> erin joins me now. so what's next? how did passengers get back home? >> reporter: well, anderson, the cruise line actually is going to be flying all of those passengers back here to baltimore in the morning and on top of that, they will get a full refund for this particular cruise and they will get a voucher for their next cruise on that same cruise line. >> so it seems like they learned a lesson from the mistakes of the past with other lines, that they reacted very quickly to this. >> reporter: they did, and i talked to a couple of people who follow the cruise ship industry very closely and they said royal caribbean did a good job. on top of this, royal caribbean has canceled the next voyage of that same ship and the passengers on that trip which was scheduled to leave on may 31st are getting a full refund for that trip as well, and they will get a voucher for half off yet another cruise. >> all right. erin, thanks very much. we are following some other stories. gary tuchman is here with the
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disturbing testimony, tonight we hear from one of the jurors in the jodi arias trial. i will be speaking with juror number 16 in just a moment. a retrial for the penalty phase deciding whether arias will get the death penalty for murdering her ex-boyfriend travis alexander is set to begin on july 18th. now, the jury found arias guilty, you know that, but was deadlocked of course when it came to whether she should die for the murder. >> state of arizona versus jodi ann arias, sentencing verdict. we the jury duly impanelled and sworn in the above entitled action upon our oaths unanimously find, having considered all of the facts and circumstances, that the defendant should be sentenced -- no unanimous agreement. signed foreperson. is this your true verdict, so say you one and all? >> yes. >> the vote came down 8-4 in favor of sentencing arias to death. it had to be unanimous, though. joining me is one of the jurors who voted for the death penalty. mary lou allen kugen. thank you so much for being with us. five months of your life was
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consumed by this trial. i can't imagine what that is like, listening to all the details of this. what -- i mean, how do you describe it? what did you go through? >> it was an intense experience. heart-wrenching. i don't really -- i haven't recovered enough quite to put a label on it yet, but it was extremely intense, very heart-wrenching. >> as you were in the jury room and as all of you were weighing whether or not to support the death penalty or not, did you know right away that it wouldn't be unanimous? >> relatively early in the process, yes. >> and i know you voted for the death penalty. what made you decide to vote that way? was there one particular thing or kind of a general sense you had? >> there was no one particular thing. excuse me.
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>> that's okay. >> the state proved their case. it was a gruesome, horrific crime. the state proved that it was done, the state proved that there were extenuating circumstances. >> and the people on the jury who did not agree with you, who did not vote for the death penalty, was there a general reason that they were not supporting the death penalty? >> i would not say there was a general reason. we all have our individual reasons why. >> can you talk about some of the reasons why people did not want the death penalty? >> out of respect for my fellow jurors, i think everyone needs to speak to how they voted, how they felt, so i'm not really comfortable doing that. >> okay. fair enough. what was the moment like when you realized okay, we are not going to reach unanimous
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decision, after all you have been through, what was that time like? >> frustrating. we were saddened, we were frustrated. it was -- we felt like we let the system down. we felt like we let travis' family down. but because of the instructions that we were given, it ended up the way it ended up, which was not ideal, but it is what it is. >> for you personally, jodi arias, listening to jodi arias on the stand for 18 days, you know, attorneys we have talked to say look, that's extraordinary to have a defendant on the stand for that amount of time, what did you make of her testimony over the course of that time? >> again, this is personal experience, i felt she was very into jodi.
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i don't feel -- she was not believable for me. it's very difficult to describe. i didn't believe what she had to say. i don't think she ever was truly honest with us. i know that for me, i didn't see any remorse or any issues with herself for what happened that day, for what travis went through. i didn't see any of that. >> did you as a juror personally, again, just talking about yourself, find it helpful to be able to ask questions to her? >> extremely helpful. obviously everyone knows that there were over 200 questions that were asked by her. and i think with that process in place, it gives the jurors an opportunity to solidify in our mind or answer questions that comes up for us during the testimony that we wouldn't otherwise be able to have the
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answers to. >> have you ever served on a jury before? >> no. this was my first. >> would you do it again, if you were able to choose? >> yes. i feel it's my duty. if i get called, it's my duty to answer that call. >> listen, i appreciate you talking to us tonight. i know you're still kind of processing it all and i appreciate you kind of letting us in on what you personally experienced. thank you. >> you're welcome. >> take care. coming up tonight, new evidence in the murder trial of george zimmerman and the death of trayvon martin, evidence about martin, that the zimmerman side thinks, well, is going to argue well for their case. we'll be right back. of how they could be. smarter, simpler, how-on-earth-does-it-do-that... er. and they make it that way. because things can always be better. we like those people. they think like us.
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now the latest in the trayvon martin case. lawyers for george zimmerman, the man accused of fatally shooting martin last year present new evidence that they claim show martin was quote, hostile and angry when the confrontation between the men took place. martin's family accuses the defense of trying to prejudice the jury ahead of the trial. here's david mattingly. >> police, i just heard a shot right behind my house. >> reporter: shock, confusion and fear. you can hear it in the voice of every 911 caller in the final moments of trayvon martin's young life. >> the person is dead, lying on the ground. >> just because he's lying on the ground -- >> oh, my god! >> reporter: february 26th,
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2012, 17-year-old trayvon martin buys some skittles and a bottle of iced tea, walks through a community of townhomes where he lives with his father. there he catches the eye of watch volunteer george zimmerman. that's zimmerman's first impression watching trayvon martin walking alone. >> this guy looks like he's up to no good or he's on drugs or something. >> reporter: less than a minute later, zimmerman gets out of his car. >> are you following us? >> yeah. >> we don't need you to do that. >> reporter: but then, just a few minutes later, there's another call. >> 911, do you need police, fire or medical? >> maybe both, i'm not sure. there's just someone screaming outside. >> reporter: in the background, listen for the sound of a fight and a panicked voice yelling for help. >> is it a male or female? >> it sounds like a male. >> you don't know why? >> i don't know why. i think they're yelling help but i don't know.
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>> reporter: ten seconds later, the shrieking continues, then a gunshot. >> you think he's yelling help? >> yes. >> all right. what is -- >> there's gun shots. >> you just heard gun shots? >> yes. >> how many? >> just one. >> reporter: just one, a shot to the heart. ending the life of trayvon martin. a bloodied and bruised george zimmerman tells police it was self-defense. >> felt like my body was on the grass and my head was on the cement and he just kept slamming it, slamming it. >> reporter: zimmerman is not arrested. no charges immediately filed. florida law allows people to use force in self-defense, the stand your ground law. but before investigators can go to a grand jury, a firestorm descends. >> justice for trayvon! >> reporter: thousands march through the streets with similar protests around the country. even the president is disturbed.
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>> if i had a son he would look like trayvon. >> reporter: 44 days after he shoots and kills trayvon martin, george zimmerman is charged with second degree murder and he turns himself in. zimmerman gets out on bail but it doesn't last. when detailing his assets, he didn't tell the court about $130,000 in donations to a defense fund. he goes back to jail, gets out again. this time, on $1 million bond. since then, zimmerman's sightings have been few and far between. his attorneys say he lives in fear, venturing out only in disguise and always wearing body armor. each time he shows up in court, his weight gain is astonishing. zimmerman's attorney says he's put on 120 pounds. prosecutors may try to portray him as a profiler and a killer. zimmerman's defense is building its own profile of trayvon martin. >> not sure if it's recreation or whatever but he's very used
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to fighting, that he has used some drugs in the past and again, many 17 year olds have, but that he has as well. >> reporter: with the trial due to start in two weeks, zimmerman's defense has released pictures and text messages suggesting the 17-year-old martin was no stranger to pot, guns and fighting. three months before he encountered george zimmerman, trayvon martin sends text messages about a fight, saying his opponent didn't bleed enough, only his nose. less than a week before the fatal encounter, martin texted i hid my weed, it's wrapped. important questions persist about what happened that night the two crossed paths, who threw the first punch, who is that on the 911 tapes crying for help. the answers will lead a jury to decide, was this a case of self-defense or murder. >> david joins us now. so the jury selection is just two weeks away. now, the defense will be asking for a delay in the trial. what's the problem? >> reporter: well, they want a
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delay because they say they're not getting the evidence that they need to see from the prosecutors in a timely fashion. they have complained about this in the past, but now that we're so close to jury selection, this sort of accusation is taken very, very seriously by the court. in fact, the defense is asking for sanctions against the prosecutors. part of that evidence they're complaining about not getting in a timely fashion were those uncomplimentary photographs we just saw of trayvon martin, also the text messages, the material that came from his cell phone. >> there's a big fight now over what the jury will be able to actually see, right? >> reporter: that's right. the prosecution wants to take those photographs, those text messages completely off the table so that the jury will not see them. but the defense is saying that if the prosecution wants to make character an issue and go after the character, george zimmerman, then they want to be able to do the same to trayvon martin so expect a very big fight over the future of that evidence. >> david, appreciate the reporting. thanks.
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university of michigan graduates and i don't agree. >> lesson number one, do six shots every day. beer is the thing. drink a real beer. i'm really wasted. i have literally traveled all over the world to every continent wasted, completely out of control. i have conceived children in more than 100 countries. >> i like ellen. i would also like to point out that sanjay is nowhere to be seen on the list of the ten best dressed newsmen list on vanityfair.com. he didn't even make that list. i, however, am number ten, dead last, surpassed only by joe scarborough, charlie rose, don lemon, wolf blitzer, lester holt, willie geist, matt lauer, brian williams and anthony mason. these lists are totally subjective and haphazard so chin up, adam sandler, eli manning, ben stiller. you may not be as trusted as i
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