tartar sauce. she will probably be animated. she could play herself. check out her effortless indifferent acting. in this frisky's game show entitled will kitty play with it? yes, no. >> well, let's celebrate anyway. >> reporter: that's about the way she's celebrating her new movie deal. jeanne moos, cnn. >> duran that frown upsidedown. >> reporter: new york. >> good for them. thanks for joining me today, i'm carol costello. cnn "newsroom" continues right now. hello, everyone, i'm ashleigh banfield. we have a busy show ahead. today's main news and, as always, our take on daytime justice coming at you right now. we just learned in this past hour the pentagon is sending

weapons to jordan and may leave them there because of the certain civil war. put a missile battery as well as f-16 fighter jets will be taking part in upcoming plans military exercise in jordan, but the united nations u united states central command says the military hardware could be left there to help protect jordan if any of the violence spills over from syria and new this morning, firefighters are coming in waves to fight a raging wildfire just north of los angeles. the aptly named power house fire has consumed several acres. firefighters don't have it contained until next week. they are hoping the weather helps them to keep it from spreading too far. also at this hour, authorities are still searching for people still missing in

oklahoma tornado. they had flooding hit. that was a major problem. 13 deaths in oklahoma are being blamed on the combination of high winds and flooding. very sad news to report from april. in the last hour, we learned that senator lautenberg died. they say it was a viral pneumonia. he announced earlier this year he was not going to seek re-election if 2014. senator lautenberg was the last remaining person in congress who served in world war ii. supreme court handed down a ruling saying police can take dna samples from criminal suspects after arrests but before trial before conviction and without any warrant. a big deihl deal. it's a case called maryland vs. king. during the oral arguments in february, the justice samuel alito said this could be the most important supreme court case they have heard in decades.

joe johns is live right now. joe, we have watched as people arrested have been fingerprinted and photographed before they are convicted or tried, but this was something extra. this was something envasive, having your dna taken and filed. yet the justices have agreed, it's okay to do it? >> reporter: well, ashley the court came to the conclusion that when you compare this to the other kind of suspicionless searches police might be able to do. this is not very intrusive at all. it takes a swab inside your cheek and that's about it. they run it through tests. they determine this person's dna finger print as you said, it is is a case involving a guy named king arrested in 2009 on assault charges. they took the swab and discovered that all the way back in 2003, he was implicated in a rape case, got convicted on that, came all the way here to the supreme court a. very close

decision, 5-4. the court ruling that these swabs are okay under the conditions this fellow was arrested on. however, there is a strong dissent led by the often fire brand justice antonin scalia, who called it among other things, a terrifying principle, ashley. >> so what if the person who gets swabbed ends up being completely innocent or even, better yet, doesn't end up getting charged or tried, what happens to that family? >> well, it's a function of state law and the state law in maryland was very carefully crafted. first of all, they say, you know, if you end up not convicted in the state of maryland, they actually throw the sample out. so now it's a little unclear whether the dna finger print that would go into the computer is thrown out as well. that's not made so clear in the decision at all. but generally speaking, at least

in the state of maryland, that itself way the law is grafted. but remember, a bunch of other states, in fact, a majority of states have these laws. it's all a function of the way they wrote their laws, actually. in there john, i lost track of the person in the case, i lost track of that rape case, with i this all came down to ai assume it's maryland vs. king, does that mean the rape case will go forward? did it go forward? the results, what happens to the guy? >> reporter: my recollection is he was actually convicted here, he moved to suppress the dna match and set aside the conviction, but the court in maryland agreed with that. the supreme court is overturning the maryland court's decision. >> i think mr. king is going to be a busy guy then in the next little while. it certainly makes a big difference for the rest of us when it comes to your 4th amendment protection. as justice alito said, police departments across the country have got to be rejoicing. >> reporter: absolutely.

i think that's true. i mean, there are a lot of police departments who see this as an invaluable tool in trying to determine which crimes may have been committed by whom and this is probably only going to expand rather than contract. the use of dna fingerprinting. >> all right. joe johns, i think you have a next couple of busy mondays as we get some of the more significant cases that will be hand down by the court this june. thank you, jo johns, reporting for us, our justice correspondent. the acting irs commissioner is just hours away from a summer grilling on capitol hill. just how leap the alleged targeting of the tea party conservative groups, today questions came after darrell issa claims the scandal can be traced back to the irs' washington headquarters. not somewhere rogue, right there in the nation's capital. he says he has the actual evidence to prove i. he hasn't shown it yet. listen to what he said about the

white house press conference jay carney. >> their paid spokesperson, picture behind. he is still making up things about calling this local rogue. there is no indication the reason lois lerner tried to take the 5th is not because there is a rogue in cincinnati. it's because this is a problem that was created in all likelihood out of washington headquarters and we're getting to proving it. >> ah, we're getting to proving it. a big question, da fa bash is joining me live from capitol hill. what does that mean? within i hear evidence, i assume they've got some evidence we're going to see soon. are we? >> reporter: well, the answer is, they don't yet know. this is something is that i'm hearing from both sides of the aisle, ashleigh, you heard darrell issa admit they don't know the answers to the key question, who was the person or people who devised this targetings of tea party groups and other conservative groups?

how did that actually happen? they are going to do other interviews with cincinnati irs employees, cincinnati, of course, is where the tax exempt division headquarters really is. those will happen this week. but to answer the question about the point he was trying to make is, yes, he is trying to say that it is, it came from washington and that they know that based on a couple of interviews they did last week with cincinnati employees. talking to democrats who were also in the room with these interviews, they had a different take. the impression that they got was that, yes, washington was involved, but when you talk about washington, they thought it was more of the experts' tax attorneys called and asked questions about how you really determine what kind of group should get tax exempt status. this is spurred, i am told, by one tea party group in particular who in its application wrote that it was

involved in political activities. so this irs agent said, okay, i need to know how much is too much? how much political activity is allowed for these groups to still get tax exempt status? that spurred this conversation. that's something we want to have, we want our bureaucrats to have conversations about how to apply the law. how that turned in targeting, we still don't know yet. >> kind of feels like the irs is getting an audit. if you've ever had one, it's a very unpleasant experience, worse than a colon os spoep. all right. dana bash on capitol hill, thank you for that. starting today, yahoo mail is getting an upgrade, the classic version is no longer available. means you must use the new version, which serves ads based on the content of your e-mail. eek. this is a lot like what google's gmail has aumtss been doing. you can opt out of the ad. you have to accept the terms, though, which allow yahoo to

scan your mail. angelina jolie has made her first public appearance since her double mastectomy. last night she was at the premier of the new movie "world war z" her common law husband. she found out she kaer carries the mutation of the bcri 1 gene which stephen harperly increases her risk of getting ovarian and breast cancer. she says she feels great and is thankful to all those out there who have supported her. she looks terrific. justice on the run down, no. 1, saving sarah, struggling the question can't something be done before this little girl dice? case no. 2, clearing the backlog on death row. >> maybe there is somebody else on death row that is innocent and by us speeding up the

process now, it could eventually kill somebody. >> it is now up to florida's governor rick scott, a bill on his desk would spooep speed up execution. but should death penalty cases be fast tracked? and case no. 3, he proudly wore the uniform as he allegedly gunned down his fellow soldiers on base, now he wants to plead guilty and we won't let him? the trial of major nadal hassan, ahead on justice. .hassan,ahead on justice. ahead on justice. i tuned it all out. with unitedhealthcare, i get information that matters... my individual health profile. not random statistics. they even reward me for addressing my health risks. so i'm doing fine...

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twice the rate of a adults. this is not us asking for preferencetial treatment for sar rachlt this is asking for equality rights for anyone else to compete based on the severity of their illness. >> janet, the organ procurement and transplantation network has given a response saying they cannot create a policy exemption on behalf of an individual patient since giving an advantage to one patient may unduly disadvantage other patients, but as i understand it, sarah is in the most need of all who are on the list. so does that argument wash with you when it appears and i haven't seen the list of those who are in need, but it appears that there wouldn't be someone who would be in more grave danger of losing their life than your daughter? >> it's interesting that statement because they are already putting someone at an

undue disadvantage and that is my child. so you know this notion that by letting sarah compete on the severity of her illness which is the spirit of unos law by treating the most serves fewer die. that's all we're asking for them to put the spirit of their own law. they are putting someone at a disadvantage, that's my child. they are letting my child do i. >> we all know the law doesn't work at the pace that reality sometimes does. in that respect, what are you doing outside of counsel to try a appeal to anyone, someone, anyone to help your daughter? >> absolutely, we're appealing to all te amazing americans who do every year offer the gift of life to other people in the middle of their tragedy, we're appealing to them, if you are if that horrific situation you look at sarah and you maid make a direct donation to sarah.

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as we just told you, sarah's mother is hoping for a miracle and very soon. she really thinks there is someone out there watching who could help to provide it. she's asking that people designate their donated organs to her daughter. in that way, they cross that line that she can't seem to break into.

those organs go right to her daughter. but there is a catch. it's not as easy as just doing it. you got to make sure your wish is carried out. there is a couple legal things. what are the legal limitations to organ donations? two people can answer that. . danny, first to you, directed donation. it's not just enough to check your box on the license, right? you have to actually tell someone, you have to do something in order for this to happen, correct? >> yeah. most people have absolutely nothing. not an ad advanced directive, a living will, not even a power of attorney. these are all essential items. virtually none of the population has them. under federal law, if person you deg designate to make health care decisions for you may not be able to do so unlessles you have affirmatively stated you wish to be a donor.

there are a few documents like an ad vantsed directive, commonly known as a living will. the appointment of a health care representative in the event you are unable make those decisions and making your paperwork n order that clearly identifys you as an organ transplan. just like on the back of that driver's license. >> that's tricky. for anyone out there thinking, right away, i'm stepping up to the plate. i'm going to do this. can it be made easier? reined, is it, can you write something down an have it signed be i someone in your family as a witness? would that suffice? >> it's very, very difficult to say. i think you raise an absolutely brilliant point, which is, you want to step up to the plate but when you start going to the websites, do you know there is a 360-paige evatican city, just to go through the steps to see who can do nate, who is eligible, so we really need to start from the perspective of making it easier. whether you can just take a

napkin, write out your directives, have somebody witness it, technically, if you notarize it, the more legal it looks, if someone else has to make a decision to whether or not it's going to happen, i think you do need to take it to the next step. perhaps you do need to speak with counsel, you want it done right. what we are experiencing right now, watching a little girl die is beyond the ability to even describe. >> it is. it's so tough. i just want to let you know what a congressman from pennsylvania pat meehan is calling on secretary sebelius to step in, even though she's written saying it's out of her control. have a listen to his reasoning why this whole thing is discriminatory. take a look. >> if she was 12, it wouldn't be an issue. but she's almost 11 and doesn't qualify. so, therefore, the standard is arbitrary and because it's

arbitrary, it's my opinion, as an attorney, that it is discriminatory and it should give the secretary an ability to address the discriminatory nature in the way this policy has been put together. >> and again, i mentioned this to janet, before we went to break, whatever happens as the law shakes out, we don't have time on our side when it comes to little sarah. she may have weeks to live and that's it. i want to reiterate again for anybody watching, one more step. i will ask you, danny, if you don't have the money for a lawyer, if you don't have the time to go to a lawyer, could you write something down to a few witnesses, might that be enough to a directed donation to go to sarah? >> you know the internet, fortunately, is full of a lot of free resource, every state is different. some states require notarized documents, others witnesses, others both. it's easy to take a look and

find sample documents. you could potentially fill these out yourself. you can educate yourself just using the power of the internet. >> i sure hope na somebody helps this little girl and her parents. it's heart breaking to watch this process. dan in addition, randy, stay with me. i have another case coming up about timely justice. we will examine the bill that could put death penalty cases in florida on a much faster track. that's coming up neb. next.

>> welcome back to day time justice, a man who spent years on death row is asking the gadhafi of florida to veto a brand new law that would speed up the executions in that state. if the new law had been on the books, that man says he would not have lived to see his conviction overturned. a conviction for triple murder overturned. the critics say is swift justice

actually fair justice? sarah sanam has more on the controversial justice act. >> reporter: this is where seth comes to remember freedom. the sound of the sea, the smell of fresh ocean air, to forget cold hard injustice. >> there was always a part of me that would say this can't be it. you know, it can't be over. my life can't end like this in a sail, darkness, you know, where death is only 50-yard away. >> reporter: he is the most recent inmate exonerated from florida's death row. he spent 18.5 years for a crime he didn't commit. so he wants georgia's governor to veto a bill to speed up convictions. if it was in effect when he was on death row, he would be dead. >> i am the exam. i am the face of that. maybe there is somebody else on death row that is innocent and

by us speeding up the process now, it could eventually kill somebody. >> reporter: the timely justice act would force governor rick scott to sign warrants within 30 days of the highest court review, within 180 days of that would be execution. inmates choice, either by lethal injection or electric chair. >> of the over 400 people currently on death row, 155 of them have been there longer than 20 years. there is no -- it's a blight on our justice system, frankly, we have a lack of finality in that process. >> reporter: the bill sponsors state law maker matt gates says with so many people sitting on death row, that itself not justice either, not for victims and their families. >> look at the last individual that florida executed, this individual who admitted killing multiple people and said at his trial i want to die. yet it took us 20 years. i think we can do better.

>> reporter: governor scott has 15 day, if he does, this year, florida could execute 13 people. sarah ganam, cnn, miami. >> wow, 13 people in a little less than six months? should death penalty case business put on the fast track or should we be giving ample opportunity for convicts to prove if, in fact, they are innocent? our legal panel weighs in on this one next. nting easel! the tide's coming in! this is my favorite one. it's upside down. oh, sorry. (woman vo) it takes him places he's always wanted to go. that's why we bought a subaru. (announcer) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. i am an american i'm a teacher. i'm a firefighter. i'm a carpenter. i'm an accountant.

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we are are going to get the legal panel now to got at it on this proposed new death penalty law. 32 states have capital punishment. maryland is the late toast repeal capital punishment. in florida's way, they're looking for swift justice, but is swift justice fair judgment?

should death penalty cases be fast tracked? defense attorney an prosecutor randy zellen is in new york. that's a simple question with a lot of intricate stuff, danny, we start with you, is swift justin when you talk about people sometimes in the case of florida have been on death row upwarsd of 35 years, is that the answer? >> you know, swift justice is justice in traffic court or some other legal issue. no when it comes to the death penalty. when you look at the spotty past of the death anne penalty, not here, in the spire world, in america the death penalty has been ruled unconstitutional in the last 40 years. for three years, we have a moratorium against it. states are inken some have it. some don't. we're that in doubt about an ultimate punishment like this. it doesn't make any sense that we want to fast track it.

it's final. it can't be reversed like probation or a jail term. so it's not something we need to be speeding along. we shouldn't be considering costs or time to the government or government employees as a factor. >> but it's very difficult not for the government or the people alone victimized be i that felon to have to go through year after year knowing that the final justice hasn't been meted out. those people exist. they suffer for decades. so randy zellen, go back to your prosecutor day, put on the prosecutor hat. tell me why this is a great idea? >> for the reasons. >> given are you a defense attorney now. >> no, no, no, you know what, i got to be a judge just now. i know now what it feels like to change your mind as are you getting on to the bench.

talk about an oxymoron in florida they get it wrong more than anything else, justice goes both ways. there is something. there is justice for the victims. where is their justice? the senator said, here's a guy that said "kill me" 25 years later he hasn't been killed. whether you agree or don't agree, if it's on the book, then use it, use it for its intend purpose. maybe what we need is get it right. then we don't have to worry about thcht we have an appeals process like any other appeal process. >> that has been a problem all along. you and i have probably talked a couple times at least about dna not always going according to plan. it's a science it's only as good as the people that handle it. we as human beings make terrible mistakes. we don't intend to make them. we do make it. shouldn't we have a lengthy

process of weeding out all those potential erorks even if it takes two decades? >> exactly that. when it comes to the death penalty, it's the only pun ibment that is fine am. at this time only punishment really where we exact the same revenge on the person that they committed. it's only available for death. in assault case, we don't assault prisoners. in rape case, we don't adhere to raping prisoners. if it's that controversial, again, is there any public policy reason supporting fast tracking it? keep in mind, also, florida has nonunanimous death penalties, that's definitely a state that should not be speeding up the process. >> when you say there is no place in the modern world. i will name five countries that we share the death penalty where, saudi arabia, iraq, rooirn iran, syria, north korea, apparently in the modern world,

however modern they are, we are in that group. i know a lot of people are uncomfortable with that. especially wince we make mistakes. you both have to come back, thanks so much, both of you. just ahead, a little more daytime justice. he is accused of killing 13 people at ft. hood, army major nadal hassan wants to plead g. apparently he can't. what? it's monday. a brand new start. your chance to rise and shine. with centurylink as your trusted technology partner, you can do just that. with our visionary cloud infrastructure, global broadband network and custom communications solutions, your business is more reliable - secure - agile.

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. >> former army psychologist nadal hassan admits that he did it. he says he is the one that drew his weapon on fellow soldiers at ft. hood back in 2009, opening fire, killing 13 american servicemen and wounding '2 others. but the judge says he's not allowed to say that in court. he's not allowed to plead guilty. it is just the rule so now hasasn that was paralyzed after being stopped in his track, wants to be court marshed. now the judge has to decide something other than murder. why can't he plead guilty? joining me now is lee zeelanden, a major in the general reserves. he served inatic with the 82nd airborne before celebrating a

law practice. can you answer that why are you not allowed to plead guilty in a case like this? >> basically, because it's a capital offense. it carries the death penalty. they're concerned that under the rules even if he was to plead to a lers charge, that that could be used against him on a trial on the capital offense. because it carries the death penalty, he's not allowed to do it. >> but is there something different than civilian justice? i money, you can do it in civilian justice, is there an honor in the military? is there something more? >> the rules simply don't allow the military judge in this particular case to allow him to take a guilty plea because of the capital offense. unfortunately the rules seem prit pretty black and white. the military judge is sticking to i. major hassan wants to confess. it is remarkable in this case when you have someone willing to come to court in front of the

judge for the judge, fortunately the rules done allow it because of the death penalty. >> here's the weird part, it can save us money, time, pain for all those people who are affected be i this crime having to live lou a trial, interestingly, senator, he wants to represent himself, there was a hearing about this today. i can just see a huge can of worms about this guy representing himself, could he not effectively stand up and do what he wants and say as my attorney i'm guilty? >> sure. once he has that, he sure can say it, one of the really scary things, we are concerned about the victim impact of the crimes that he committed. and the fact that he as the prosecutor that if defense has an opportunity to stand there and the question these witnesses, people who are bringing forth evidence against him, he as the defense counsel

representing himself are confronting all the people accusing him, so it's a little of a predict amendment, the fact is from some of the earlier medical examinations that have been done of major hassan, they found he was fit to stand trial and we'll find out very shortly whether or not he is fit to exhibit himself and jury selection is scheduled to start right away a. four-week process. major hassan probably doesn't know that much about military law, though, i guess he has been experienced since he committed these heinous crimes. >> you haerd heard that expression, i always get it backwards, faataualofa give me, a man who happens as a client has a fool for a lawyer. can you tell me if that is also representative of military justice. >> well, he fired his military attorney what i have experienced, i was prosecuted

for a year-and-a-half. some were better than others. he's made a decision to fire this particular counsel and represent himself. it seems like it may be right to do that, although, he is probably doing a disservice to himself. as far as knowing the military rules of evidence and being a quote/unquote representative of himself, we'll see how this goes. it may get worse before it gets better can chaos reigning in the courtroom. military info. >> we are getting breakup on your signal. this has been number of drama from the moment he wanted to grow a border and that wasn't allowed. we will have to have you back and talk about the outcome, whether, in fact, he can be counsel and whether there was an ineffectiveness of counsel brought forward. sorry we doesn't have a strong

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officer accused of murder claimed that he was innocent, we had what appeared to be a very guilty man on our hands, drew peterson. in fact, he was convicted of first-degree murder in the death of his ex-wife and sentenced to 38 years in prison. and now there's another ex-cop getting a lot of spotlight. his name is brett seacat and he's accused of murdering his wife. he raised his voice in anger and flat-out denied he did it when police questioned him. >> did you murder her? >> no. >> did you pull the trigger? >> no. >> did you kill her? >> no. >> she told a friend a week and a half prior to this incident happening that you threatened to kill her. >> what? >> you threatened to burn the house down. and you threatened to make it look like she did it. >> that is bull [ bleep ]. >> mr. seacat says his wife

killed herself and then somehow simultaneously burned the house down all while he and their two little boys, aged just 2 and 4 years old, were inside the house. at the time, he had just been served with divorce papers. so we ask the question, was this suicide or was this murder? joining me now to talk about this is the guy who could probably shed a lot of light. he's the person i always ask when it comes to this, chairman of the science department at john jay college science department of criminal justice. the reason i thought of you is because this is the kind of case that screams forensics. nobody witnessed it, so now it's all about what was left behind. what stood out in that case that i just outlined? >> i agree with you, this is a forensic case. and i think there are two aspects to it. first, the question about suicide or homicide and the second is arson.

the problem is the body has been burnt, charred. and some evidence has clearly been lost. the ballistics evidence is only partially available. the gun was found under the body. >> how does that happen? >> that's a good question. can somebody shoot themselves and then fall upon the gun? i mean, she was in bed. it doesn't really make a lot of sense. you generally do not find the weapon underneath somebody who commits suicide. >> i don't know if the gun was found under her front or under her back, but that would make a big difference, wouldn't it? >> it would. but more importantly when you have a gun you have dna and the question is whether or not dna can survive arson, sometimes it can, sometimes it can't. even on a charred body there's some trajectory information and sometimes the autopsy will reveal whether the shot was very a very close-in shot. that's question number one. the other question is about the

arson. assuming that the same person committed both, we really have to tie the pieces together. so what kind of evidence would we find in an arson? >> you're seeing a few pictures right now of the accused in this case. and i want to read some of the things that they've collected in terms of evidence in this case. the reason you're seeing the foot is specific. but to start with his injuries, he didn't have any blood on him when he was found. and i think he told investigators he helped carry this body out and clearly she would have been bleeding. there were singed hair on his calves, two blisters on his foot and some liquid, apparently gasoline, found on hispants. >> that's not good for the defense. the fact there is no blood on the body is a good for instance, but in a situation like this where he is claiming he heard loud noises and went to rescue

his wife, you would expect if he lifted her up and she was bleeding to have blood transfer. but more telling is the gasoline on the clothing. we look for a accelerates. there's kind of a message here. >> if i was a defense attorney, i'd say he might have in the frenzy bumped up against wherever accelerant, always good to see you. thanks so much. thank you everyone for being with us. "around the world" start right after this break. it's lots of things. all waking up. ♪ becoming part of the global phenomenon we call the internet of everything. ♪ trees will talk to networks will talk to scientists about climate change.

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