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dealing with more heart ache as the king of pop's daughter reportedly tries to commit suicide. >> then -- a 10-year-old little girl and her family may have their prayers answered. an update on the little girl who so desperately needs a lung transplant. >> good morning. i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. welcome to "starting point." tropical storm andrea, the first named storm of the atlantic hurricane season beginning to bear down on florida. parts of south florida are under a tornado watch. parts of central florida are under a tornado warning. the outer bands coming ashore on the state's west coast. a tropical storm warning is in effect from just north of ft. myers to just south of tallahassee. you can see the zone there. a big swath of florida. george howell is in clearwater for us. good morning, george. >> good morning. for the most part this is a rain event. we are getting a lot of rain coming in. believe it or not, we are at a

bit of a lull. the biggest line of storms moved through an hour ago through this area. there was -- there were reports of tornadoes, tornadic activity. also concern about water spouts on that line of storms. now we are in this lull. when you look at the radar you see another line of storms coming our way. from what i can tell it's two hours out. that's where we'll see more of the rainfall, torrential rainfall. gusty winds. we know wind gusts can get up to 40 miles per hour plus in the storm. keep in mind this is a minor tropical storm but still bringing a lot of rainfall to the area. already causing some flooding in spots, christine. >> a lot of tourists in the area this time of year. i imagine people are told to beware of hitting the beaches. >> yeah. absolutely. you look out and you see the water choppy. you don't want to be out there especially on the gulf side.

life guards are warning people about rip currents out there. also, just with the choppy water. as long as the storm system stays overhead not a good place to be out there. >> sun coming up. it is a cloudy, rainy day as the bands beat down on florida. thanks, george. >> the storm will hit a lot of us over the next few days. let's get the latest. indra? >> unbelievable. florida had so much rain and they are dealing with a tropical storm. this is going to affect a lot of us as we go through the weekend. where did it come from? this was tropical storm barbara. it dissipated as it was in the gulf. it's reformed a circulation. it is the first storm now for the atlantic hurricane season. a little bit of trivia there. 60 miles per hour winds, not expected to strengthen. that's the good news. it's ler h early in the season. it will make it through florida and also southern portions of georgia, through the carolinas and back up to new york.

that's what we'll be dealing with. heavy rainfall means the flood watch will be in effect as it makes its way up north. we'll be watching and we have mentioned the threat for tornadoes. keep in mind you have more clear conditions right over the water. it's smoother there. once it hits land you see friction. that spawns isolated tornados in the northeast quadrant. two warnings still in effect currently now. we'll continue to monitor this. talking about storm surge from two to four feet. add that to the heavy rainfall as well. four to six inches of heavy rain. isolated amounts up to eight inches. as it makes toyota the carolinas and new york we'll see enhanced moisture bring just enough. you can see two to four inches of rain. definitely a tough weekend in store for a lot of us. there is obviously heavy wind as well. flooding. up believable. florida can't catch a break. >> big mess on the east coast. thank you very much. >> you wouldn't know it but the united states government may have your number. a potentially explosive story

now. the feds reportedly obtaining a top secret court order requiring verizon to turn over telephone records of millions of americans to the national security agency on a daily basis. joe johns live from washington. are we hearing anything from the white house? >> actually, yes. a senior administration official issued a carefully worded statement this morning without confirming or denying the existence of the order, but pointing out that this document we are all talking about this morning first reported by the guardian newspaper doesn't describe eaves dropping, listening in to anyone's telephone calls. it says the information of the sort described in this article from the guardian newspaper has been a critical tool in protecting the nation from terrorist threats to the united states as it allows counterterrorism personnel to discover whether known or suspected terrorists have been in contact with other persons who may be engaged in terrorist

activities, particularly people located in the united states. the national security agency has apparently been collecting call detail records and much more from customers of the telephone giant verizon business network services since around april 25 of this year, according to what appears to be this top secret order signed by a judge from the u.s. foreign intelligence court. it was first made public by the guardian. the order allows the government to collect information about local telephone calls including what's known as telephone metadata. the order which was requested by the fbi is top secret, suppose tli. no one is supposed to disclose the existence of it unless the fbi director says it is okay. we contacted verizon asking about the document. ed mcfadden said, all i can say is no comment. the order appears to be under the patriot act. this isn't the first time questions have been raised about

domestic surveillance in the u.s. it also came up during the bush administration. it's the first time it's come up during the obama administration. all kinds of reactns about this including al gore tweeting just in the las night or so in a digital era privacy must be a priority. is it just me or is blanket surveillance obscenely outrageous? christine. >> we'll talk to tom in a moment. most people are saying they can't believe it is legal for the government to have this much data. it is? >> million dollar question there. so much of the domestic surveillance has been highly controversial. when you talk about it, everybody says i thought they were only supposed to be able to do this kind of thing on people outside the united states. so what we don't know is everything that came before and whether it was some

justification because of some specific target or whatever. those are the questions we need to ask today. >> joe johns, thank you so much. >> the document being release sd the signed court document. there was a judge that signed it. let's bring in tom fuentes fr former assistant director with the fbi. tom, first of all, why get these records? huge numbers of phone records talking about who made the calls, where they are made, and the duration. how is this helpful to intelligence? >> good morning, john. i think the reason they want to have that is if a phone number comes up being connected to someone of suspicion they can go back and look at all of the number that is the phone number called or was called by, how long the calls were, what location the calls were made from, that copy of information. it's not that someone or some group of analysts can sit there and monitor 50 million phone calls going through the

computers. but it would create the ability to go back and see if you could connect phone calls. in the case of the boston bombing, for example, to go back to tamerlan's phone records, tamerlan tsarnaev and look at who he called, who called him even locally this within the united states and go back for a certain period of time. te normally the phone companies wouldn't maintain those records for a long period of time because of the storage capacity mainly. now they go from the phone company to the government, to nsa to go into their larger computer system to be held for future investigations. >> are these records you go after, trying to get a court order to do it because you are investigating something specific, someone specific. there is one person or persons you're going after or is it a blanket protection in case at some point you want to investigate someone? >> it's a blanket order so you could go back at another time and look specifically at another

phone number or group of phone numbers to see if it appears there is a group connection. so you're right. the idea is they would have everybody's phone calls in the first place so they could go back and look. >> are you surprised? >> it raises questions if the government should have blanket coverage without suspicion about a particular number. >> are you surprised by the scope of this? >> yes. i'm surprised. even at the computer capacity to store that much material. we are talking about a lot of phone calls that occur every single day within the united states and of course overseas. >> tom fuentes, former fbi assistant director. >> it's remarkable to think of the software they have to look for patterns to try to figure out -- >> we should be clear. they are not getting the content of the conversations. it's just who is making the

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overnight. a woman pulled from the rubble some 12 hours after she was buried alive. however, six people were killed. more than a dozen injured in the collapse. don lemon is following developments live in philadelphia. good morning, don. >> good morning to you, john. first we thought it was one person. then two, three and overnight we hear six people. the startling news. a woman found alive. you can see they made headway with the rubble. still clothes hanging on the racks inside this thrift score. the 61-year-old woman was in the rubble for 12 hours, but it's been almost 24 hours of hell. a giant brick wall more than 100 feet long, four stories high, came down with a boom onto a busy salvation army thrift store. >> i heard a great big crack. >> reporter: claude davis was across the street watching from his apartment. >> i looked and i seen the building crumble.

oh, it was painful. oh, my goodness. i thought about all the people in there that couldn't get out of there. i screamed and hollered. >> reporter: those people who couldn't get out include those who died and at least a dozen workers and customers at the thrift store in philadelphia's center city. jordan mclaughlin saw it happen and rushed in to help. >> people that fell over, people started screaming. they ran across the street. there were people inside the building. you heard them scream. >> reporter: another rescuer seen in this video standing on the rubble helped pull four people out. >> we were on top of the roof pulling them out. when we got there all you could hear was help and maybe see a hand or something through the rubble. >> reporter: philadelphia's mayor says they don't know how many people were inside the store at the time. he had all traffic and trains stop, news helicopters grounded, sent in dogs to sniff human

scent and ordered a full investigation. >> this was an active demolition site. no violations or complaints we are aware of. all permits were valid. >> reporter: searching for answers, those who saw the tragedy up close who describe it as a war zone. >> we had tar, sheet rock, a bunch of dust. you heard cries -- help, help, help. >> reporter: that woman removed here around midnight is the only woman who didn't walk away on her own volition. she's being treated at that time university of pennsylvania hospital now. the headline says raising hell, how did this debacle happen. that's what they are trying to figure out now. >> a lot of questions as they pick through the rubble. don lemon in philadelphia this morning. thanks. ahead on "starting point" a 10-year-old girl now on the adult donor list to get a lung. hear the moment she found out

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a federal judge's ruling may help a 10-year-old pennsylvania girl get the lung transplant she needs to save her life. it prevent it is department of health and human services from enforcing a rule that keeps sarah murnaghan off the lung transplant list. jason carol has the late nest the high stakes legal battle. good morning. >> when i spoke to the family last night they were so excited. they said they were jumping up and down in the hospital room. they were thrilled. all they ever wanted was a fair chance for their daughter. now they say they finally have it. >> whoo! >> reporter: this was sarah's reaction after getting word a federal judge temporarily helped her win a victory in the battle to save her life. ♪ twinkle twinkle

♪ little star >> reporter: in the late stages of cystic fibrosis she desperately needs a lung transplant. having been on the children's donor list for 18 months. wednesday her parents filed a lawsuit against the department of health and human services to get her included on the adult list. current policy prevents children under 12 from being on the list. but late wednesday judge michael bailson offered a ten-day restraining order directing the department oh immediately cease application of the under 12 rule as to sarah murnaghan so she can be considered for receipt of donated lungs from adults. >> the jij is allowing her to be on equal ground with the adults. >> reporter: as sarah became sicker over the past few week it is family appealed to health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius to change the policy oh. sebelius said it was not within her power to immediately change it.

>> the worst of all worlds in my mind is to have some vinl pick and choose who lives and dies. i think you want a process where it's guided by medical science and medical experts. >> reporter: secretary sebelius saying there are 40 adults in murnaghan's region in need of a transplant. the family says sarah is so sick it is likely she'll still be at the top of the adult list. bob casey says federal guidelines have to ensure fairness to children and adults. >> you have to be able to work within the rules but also to make the case when you believe that children could be adversely impacted by the policy. >> i lost two teeth. >> reporter: time for sarah still running out but the murnaghans believe now she has a fighting chance. again the family feels confident their daughter will be somewhere near the top of the donor list in her region which is comprised of six states and the district

of columbia. time is of the essence in terms of finding a match. the family says the last two nights for sarah have been very rough. >> there are other people on the list. now that she's on oh the adult list there are other people on the list, too. where does she go in the line-up? >> it depends. what it comes down to is who is the sickest person rather than who is the sickest adult versus the sickest child. >> it's a ten-day injunction. it has to happen quickly unless more legal action takes place. >> exactly. >> she's been waiting a year and a half. we hope for strength for her as he waits for her turn. ahead, michael jackson's daughter paris rushed to the hospital last night sources say after an apparent suicide attempt. a former jackson family spokesperson has known paris since she was a little toddler. he's here to talk with us after the break. >> an update on the deadly fire that killed five women headed to

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welcome back. i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. >> the white house reacting to a report that the government obtained a top secret court order making verizon turn over telephone records for millions of americans. a senior official tells cnn the information is a critical tool for protecting the nation and review special intelligence orders to ensure they are within constitutional protections. the guardian says verizon is being forced to turn over the originating and terminating phone numbers as well as the location, time and duration of the calls. but not any information about

the actual content of the calls. not what you're saying. this comes as president obama selected embattled u.n. ambassador susan rice to be his national security adviser. jim accosta has more on this from washington. >> i am absolutely thrilled that she'll be back at my side leading my national security team in my second term. >> reporter: in selecting susan rice to become his next national security adviser, president obama may have reignited the controversy over the deadly siege at the u.s. consulate in benghazi. it was rice who went on the sunday talk shows with inaccurate administration talking point that is blamed the attack on protesters. >> the copycat of the demonstrations against our facility in cairo which were prompted, of course, by the

video. >> any comments on susan rice and samantha power? >> any comments on samantha power or susan rice? >> i don't know. >> reporter: a few notable conservatives slowed down enough to talk were livid. senator rand paul told cnn he's convinced the white house is hiding something. >> i think because of that appointing susan rice or promoting her is probably not the best way to regain his authority. by all accounts i don't think anybody that disputes she misled the nation for days. >> reporter: the rice pick is a sign president obama doesn't mind the fight. last month he brushed off the issue. >> the whole issue of talking points, frankly, throughout the process has been a side show. >> reporter: former national security spokesperson tommy vietor says rice's critics are wasting their time. >> if you want to talk about talking points ten months later, the documents have been released. susan did nothing wrong. time for people taking political cheap shots to move on, get a day job. >> reporter: either way, rice doesn't have to worry.

her appointment doesn't have to be confirmed by the senate. >> it would be the honor of a lifetime to fight for american values and interests at the united nations. >> reporter: that's not the case with samantha power, the president's pick to replace rice at the united nations. well known for passion on human rights issues including the genocide in rwanda she's had some missteps. as an aide to then candidate obama in 2008 she called his rival hillary clinton a monster. some jewish groups don't like her comments on the israeli palestinian conflict. >> putting something online might mean alienating a domestic constituency of tremendous e financial and political import. >> reporter: several republicans said it's just too early to pass judgment. >> i'm not prepared to give an opinion. >> reporter: samantha power later apologized to clinton and they buried the hatchet. as for her appointment, arizona senator john mccain put out a statement praising the president's pick for the u.n. as for rice, mccain said, he'll make every effort to work with her. jim accosta, cnn, washington. i'm joined by candy crowley.

let's start with the nsa collection of verizon phone records. what does it mean for the obama administration? >> we'll see. what it means so far is even some of its best allies on the progressive side are saying, whoa, wait a second. what is this about? this was something that then president bush got pounded for. this blanket, bring in a bunch of data and let's see what we can find rather than looking for something specific. this appears to be broader than what president bush did. he's now once again run afoul of progressive groups as well as conservatives. i will tell you that a number of times when things like this come up and we are hearing people on the hill that have been warning for a while, we think the american people would be appalled at what goes on in the name of national security. in the end, americans have been remarkably okay with some of the things that caused a stir in

washington. you know, if you do it in the name of national security, americans tend to go for it. we'll see how it plays out. right now it's being called the biggest sweep of this kind of metadata, as they call it, sort of transactional stuff. when was the phone call made, from what number to what number, how long, et cetera. we'll see how it plays out. certainly there are people on capitol hill who have already said this just doesn't seem acceptable. you have seen groups on both sides go, whoa, what's happening here. >> congress has granted these powers twice to two presidents here. >> not illegal as far as we can tell. the question is it a one-time thing, ongoing? we need to know more. >> exactly. >> let's talk about the shuffle of the president's national security team. yesterday president obama appointed susan rice to the

national security adviser post. why do you think he chose her? >> he's comfortable with her. he likes her. he owes her. he thinks she's smart. she's been with him since before his first term. so this is someone -- and anyone surprised by this hadn't been paying attention to what has gone on for some time. ever since susan rice took herself out of the running for secretary of oh state. people have known tom donlin was leaving and figured susan rice would be the replacement. he trusts her. she will be one of the most powerful people if not the most powerful person when it comes to national security, short of the president, of course. access is everything. she has geography on her side. she is right down the hall from him in the west wing. this is a powerful position. presidents give it to people they think are up to the job and they trust. he trusts her. >> now to lingering questions about the irs. wall street journal is reporting

that irs oh officials may have known in 2010 about the targeting of tea party groups contradicting earlier information and irs oh officials citing a washington link. not just low level workers but a washington-dire washington-directive to probe the tea party groups in 2010. >> sure. base by we had this story on sunday. it still doesn't answer the basic questions. we knew irs officials knew early on because of cincinnati asking for guidance, et cetera that there were those in washington who knew. the question is who decided it was a good idea to target folks seeking tax exemptions with the name tea party or patriot in the name of the group. who thought it was a good idea? who directed it and why did they do it? none of the interviews -- now, mind you, we haven't seen the

full transcript. you have to believe the transcripts that the republicans are leaking are the ones they consider make the most direct link. we don't know who ordered it and that's the question. we knew washington knew early on. whose idea was it? >> big questions continue. thanks. >> absolutely. >> sources close to the jackson family tell cnn paris jackson, michael jackson's 15-year-old daughter, was rushed to the hospital early wednesday morning after cutting one of her wrists. a family attorney says paris jackson is in good physical health. she's been taking part in the wrongful death lawsuit against promoter aeg live. paris jackson has twice answered questions about her father's death in that case. miguel mar kwez live with more on the story. good morning. >> i would under score the same sources say she's doing fine and

getting the help she needs. >> a cry for help is how some family sources are describing a possible suicide attempt by paris jackson. paramedics rushing to the jackson family home. a suicide hotline counselor called 911 after getting a call from paris. frightening moments captured in this dispatch transmission played by entertainment tonight. >> female 15 o.d.'d on 20 motrin and cut her arm with a kitchen knife. >> reporter: 911 responded to jackson's home wednesday morning for the possible overdose and a cut to one wrist. >> hello. this is my face. it's kind of a shocker but this is what i look like. >> reporter: a weeking ago jackson released this how-to video e. in it she's funny, silly. >> what is she doing there? what? oh, oh, what? >> reporter: the 15-year-old with great natural beauty at

time acts like any other teenager -- unsure of herself. >> yes, i'm think in the face. i have acne. i'm so weird. i need serious help. i'm crazy. i'm crazy. >> reporter: jackson tweeted, i wonder why tears are salty and quoted the beatles. yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away. now it looks as though they're here to stay. >> paris is a sensitive, dramatic child. a teenager, 15 years old and the emotions that come with that. >> reporter: jackson, her grandmother katherine and her siblings are sue ohhing aeg for the wrongful death of her daughter. twice she's been questioned. >> paris was asked intimate details about her father and her father's death. it was an intense situation. >> reporter: a tough situation for any kid. tougher yet for one that spent so much of her life in the spotlight. in a family statement they say she is a sensitive 15-year-old,

particularly sensitive when you lose the person closest in your life. john? >> it has to be so hard. thanks so much, miguel. paris jackson is said to be geting appropriate medical attention this morning in a southern california hospital. our next guest has known the jackson family for years. ramon bane is a former jackson family spokesperson, has known paris since she was a toddler. thank you for being here. you have known the family for years. were you surprised by this? >> i was paralyzeds as most people in the country. having been michael jackson's general manager and spokesman, i observed michael and paris. she, the apple of his eye. he looked at her as his little princess. so you know with what she's had to go through all of these years, people don't realize that

she was there with michael 24 hours a day. she was home schooled. you know, she was the closest thing to him. she, prince, and blanket. it has been a tremendous shock to this little baby. i call her a baby because she is only 15. i must admit yesterday i received hundreds of calls from those who worked for michael jackson. people from as far out as the middle east, japan who were all concern concerned and wanted me to share with paris and the family that she's not alone. there is so much speculation as to what the issues are. but this young girl has gone through quite a lot. i don't think anybody will know exactly what caused this. but we just want her to know

that we are praying for her. we are praying for the family. and we are wishing her the best. her father talked to me for hours about his plans for her and her siblings. let me tell you something, i want her to know that her father thought a lot about what she would do in the future. he had great plans for her. i want her to know that he looked at her as another angelina jolie, audrey hepburn. he looked at paris as someone who would carry his mantel worldwide. i want her to know she's not alone out here. her father's spirit and all of us who have been working for him for years are holding her up and we just want her to know that, john. for whatever reason this happened, she can overcome it. >> let's talk about the facts here. we have heard she had possible

cut marks on her arms. we saw the tweets. we have seen the videos. they are suggesting, you know, a 15-year-old girl going through tough times. but do you know any signs of anything like depression that she's been battling over the last few years? >> i have not -- i have spoken to members of the jackson family. i must admit i have not seen paris since her father's funeral. i have been in close communications with her grandmother on occasions. her grandfather and her aunt or uncles. i have not been advised that there has been any depression. i tell you what. michael jackson passed in june of 2009. my mother several months later. that was a traumatic circumstance for me at my age. so you think about paris who was

there with her father all over the world from the louvre to sitting with him, talking about him and his life and his career as a little child. we would go into asia and australia and ireland, and michael loved books and read eing. in those bookstores they would have cds. so paris would make michael buy his cds, if you can believe it. she is his number one fan. there is not a number one fan in asia or europe -- paris jacks is the number one fan. can you imagine the king of pop being in a record store or a bookstore and his little girl, at the time, 6, 7, 8 years old, coming with a stack of "thriller" and michael jackson's

"history 1, 2, 3" and michael saying, listen, paris, we have those at home. i'm not going to buy my own cds. as a little kid she would say, well, daddy, you're my favorite artist. i want your cd and we would end up buying michael's cds and videos everywhere we went around the world. that's the kind of love and admiration she had for her father. for him to be taken out unexpectedly at 50, she was there with him. she saw what we have been hearing about -- the horrible facts of deterioration. that little girl and her brothers were there to see that. you can imagine the kind of shock that she experienced and why she is going through what she's going through now. >> she's been through so much for a 15-year-old goirl. raymone, thank you for shedding light a little bit on who paris

jackson is. >> thank you for having me. >> let me read a statement from katherine jackson. being a sensitive 15-year-old is difficult no matter who you are. it is especially difficult when you lose the person closest to you. paris is physically fine and getting appropriate medical attention. please respect her privacy and the family's privacy. that's a statement on behalf of katherine jackson. hard to be a 15-year-old girl always. and she's been through so much the last few years. >> absolutely. when we come back, we'll look at the tropical storm bearing down on florida. much of the state right now in tropical storm watch. tornado warning, watches in the state. we'll bring you the latest on tropical storm andrea after this. it starts with little things. tiny changes in the brain.

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welcome back. we have our first tropical storm of the atlantic hurricane season now in the gulf making its way toward big ben, florida. we are talking about winds of 60 miles per hour. it is not expected to strengthen.

making its way through florida today and dissipating. but not without bringing heavy rain. two to four inches of rain anywhere from as high as new york. 7, 8 inches of rain in florida. >> a messy, wet weekend up and down the east coast. >> thanks, indra. investigators may have discovered the cause of a deadly limo fire that killed five women in the san francisco area. kgot reporting air springs in the back of the limo ruptured. that set in motion a chain reaction that led to the fire. the women were on their way to a bridal shower. >> they will be looking now at the capacity of the limo, how much weight was in the limo and were there signs of wear and tear. ahead on "starting point" a minnesota mom rushed to the hospital suffering from excruciating back pain. the diagnosis -- a six and a half-pound baby girl. she said she had no idea she was carrying. we'll hear from the mom next. ready?

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on sunday, minnesota mom trish stain went out on a ten-mile training session, ten-mile run, preparing for an upcoming marathon. made it through the run, but by morning, had terrible back pain. thought she maybe pulled a muscle or ruptured a disk. pain got worse and worse, taken to the hospital by ambulance. soon after, her diagnosis was delivered a 6 pound, 6 ounce baby girl. >> trish and her husband john had no idea she was pregnant. that is until the surprise delivery monday afternoon. the stunned mom, trish, joining us now from duluth.

named the baby, mira, short for miracle. trish, how are you doing? how is the baby doing today? >> i'm feeling pretty well. i haven't been by the hospital to see her at all. first of all, a correction real quick. her full name is miracle. i just call her mira. >> that's beautiful. >> so that's her nickname. >> you have to tell me, it seems just so unbelievable that you are on a ten-mile run, think have you ruptured a disk, pain gets worse and worse. have you two pie logical children, experienced pregnancy before, experienced delivery before. the question is on everyone's minds, especially anyone pregnant before, how could you possibly not have known you had a baby? >> six pounds? >> yeah, it's pretty mind blowing to me too. they say hindsight is 100%. there were signs, but, thinking back on it, i was -- pregnancy

and having kids was the further thing from my mind. i always said i had my one boy, one girl, i was done. so obviously -- >> you could feel her kicking along the way. usually at 20 weeks, kicking, feel the puttering, a bump, the whole thing. >> there wasn't any bump. i kind of already have a tummy anyway, and i didn't gain any weight, and i think probably through my training, i probably lost what i had. and she just replaced it. is what rhyi'm thinking happene. and as far as movement, she did not move. my other daughter was kicking and moving everywhere, so active. and even my son. you could tell there was a kid in there. i had a lot of weight gain with both of them. >> as if this story is not incredible enough. the other aspect of this, your husband had a vasectomy four years ago, so what does your

doctor say about that? >> he wants a refund. >> i argued with everybody. i argued with everybody, that's why this is impossible, and the doctors came in, gave me statistics, which i didn't remember, because at that point, i was not -- my mind still really wasn't there. they gave me different statistics about how, you know sometimes it doesn't work and things grow back or 1 in 1,000 gets through i think is what they told me. somebody needs to be here to let him know when he gets here, because he won't believe me. >> wow, wow, trish. she is adorable. miracle, mira, is adorable and joins brothers and sisters. i'm sure the whole family is having a great time running out and buying baby clothes. >> a miracle to say the least, right? >> and starting this new chapter for up. >> yeah. >> congratulations. >> thank you. ahead on "starting point,"

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starting point this morning, is big brother listening? >> top secret documents shows data on your phone calls, selected and stored by the government. but why? a deadly building collapse in philadelphia. a dramatic peculiar toure of a rescue, but not everyone made it out alive. tornado warning in palm beach county and a tropical storm moving in. one woman in florida probably isn't minding the weather. meet the mystery winner of the half billion dollar powerball jackpot. my long lost grandmother. i wish. good morning, everyone. i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. thursday, june 6th. welcome to "starting point." >> big brother watching.

an explosive story developing in the nation's capital. the united states government obtaining a secret order requiring verizon to turn over phone records of thousands of americans. joe johns, have we heard from the white house this morning? >> christine, a carefully worded statement from a senior administration official without confirming or denying the existence of the order, but pointing out that this document doesn't eavesdrop, it's just for call data only. the sort described in the guardian article has been a critical tool in protecting the nation from terrorist threats as it allows counterterrorism personnel to discover whether known or suspect the terrorists have been in contact with other persons who may be engaged terrorist activities, particularly in the united states. so all about national security, for the folks over there.

what we know, the guardian got court papers saying that the government has been collecting meta data from verizon business network services as of april 25th of this year and the order authorized your honor the patriot act was requested by the fbi. supposed to be top secret. but it got out. we contacted verizon about this last night. and ed mcfadden says all i could say is no comment. questions raised before about sweeping domestic surveillance programs that came up during the bush administration, reactions outside of government came quickly. al gore tweeted in a digital era, privacy must be a priority. newt gingrich got in on it, and a problem of having a giant government. so this is something that people will be talking about for a while, christine. >> the bush administration has collected call records on a large scale.

is what they are reportedly doing now, different than what we've done in the past? was this a one-time, ongoing, are there other -- other not just verizon, other data providers too? >> yeah, these are all fantastic questions. talking to information specialists, and you look at the stuff and it looks like they are getting together data in some type of a data mining operation. but what for? not clear at all. typically when the government goes after a whole bunch of information like this, it's because of a specific target. doesn't look like that. frankly, we just don't know the beginning, the middle, or the end, christine. >> we don't know yet. joe johns, thank you so much. now to extreme weather. tropical storm andrea, the first named storm of this year's tropical storm system. the outer bands coming ashore on the state's west coast. a warning from north of

tallahassee and a big part of the state. >> we talked with florida all week long. seeing rain and even more rain. some places, a foot of rain in the last week. just what they don't need, more rain. tropical storm heading toward the big bend area. currently seeing 60-mile-per-hour steady winds. won't strengthen into the hurricane. it is making a hint of a northeasterly turn. and we'll talk about it impacting southern portions of georgia and the carolinas and making its way as it is a depression up toward new york. heavy rain in the forecast. other thing we're monitoring in the morning hours, northeasterly quadrant. dissect this guy. northeasterly quadrant produces friction, we see small tornadoes quickly come up. and we are continuing to monitor. some of the reports of two tornado warnings in the area. we're talking about isolated amounts of rain as high as eight inches of rain and lower amounts

as it dissipates as it makes its way farther north. this is tropical moisture, really enhances thunderstorms and with that, talking about a good two to four inches of rain still possible by the way it makes its way to new york. definitely lots of rain there this weekend. it is prom weekend, and so many people aren't going to have good pictures. >> 2 to 4 inches no, bar we you could for me. >> matching umbrellas at prom. >> gorgeous. new this morning, improvement of relations along the korean peninsula the north and south agreeing to hold talks on reopening the joint industrial complex weeks after pyongyang pulled workers from the factory, shutting it down. south korea calls it a great opportunity to build trust. robert bales has admitted to the murder of 15 innocent afghans, count by count, pleaded guilty to more than 30 criminal

charges and acknowledged he slipped away from his base in march 2012, going house to house on a killing spree. setting ten of those bodies on fire. bales said there is not a good reason in the world for the horrible things i did. his attorney blames brain injuries, ptsd and steroids provided by army special forces. a decision on life with or without parole is expected in august. life with parole would mean he could serve as little as ten years. fireworks today at today's house hearing on the irs spending scandal. jay russell george, the treasury department inspector general whose eye opening report showed $250 million on irs conferences from 2010 to 2012. and the irs putting two employees on administrative leave for taking $1,100 in free

food and other items at a 2010 conference in anaheim that cost taxpayers $4.1 million. victims of the boston marathon bombings, the time running down to get money from the boston one fund. they have until next saturday to file a claim. they have received only 50 applications, the boston one fund collected nearly $40 million in donations. life altering tragedy leads to a life long friend from erica brannic. she was the last survivor of the terror attack to leave the hospital. she desperately wanted to find the woman who saved her life that day. now that woman, amanda north of california, used her belt as a turn i ket to stop the bleeding after her leg was blown off. we flew them to be together so she could meet the woman she helped save. >> i want you to just think of

me whenever you wear this and know that i'm always there for you. it never goes away. we're friends for life. >> we are. we'll always be connected. >> yeah, we will. never going to stop holding your hahn, no matter what happens. >> what an unbelievable reunion, quite a bond, two, women exchanged gifts. a necklace with a dragonfly, same boll of strength and erica given her favorite scarf. tears flowing people helping people born out of something so hateful and the antithesis of the terrorist attack. a harrowing building collapse in philadelphia. renewed hope as a 61-year-old woman pulled out alive. the latest on continuing search efforts, ahead. paris jackson rushed to the hospital after an apparent suicide attempt. what the jackson family is saying this morning. you're watching this morning. [ female announcer ] everything that goes into a lennox system

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welcome back, everyone. celebration among the sorrow in philadelphia. a woman buried alive for more than 12 hours in a philadelphia building collapse. the search goes on this morning for the possibility of still more survivors. cnn's don lemon following developments in philadelphia. >> unbelievable, john. unbelievable. 12 hours trapped in the rubble, an elderly woman. they hope they have everyone out. still searching, still pulling the rubble out. people in philadelphia left to wonder how and why this happened. a giant brick wall, more than 100 feet long, four stories high, came down with a boom onto a busy salvation army thrift

store. >> i heard a great big crack. >> claude davis across the street watching from his apartment. >> i looked and seen the building crumble. oh, it was painful. oh, my goodness, and i thought about all of the people in there that couldn't get out of there and i screamed and hollered. >> reporter: those people who couldn't get out include those who died and at least a dozen customers. jordan mclaughlan ran in to help. >> people inside the building, you heard them screaming. >> another rescuers, standing on the rubble. helped pull four people out. >> we were on top of the roof, pulling them out. when we got there, all you could hear is help and maybe see a hand or something through the rubble. >> reporter: philadelphia mayor michael nutter says they don't know how many people in the thrift store at the time. to prevent any further collapse,

he ordered all traffic and trains stopped for blocks. news helicopters grounded, sent in dogs to find human scent under the rubble and started an active investigation. no violation, no complaints that we're aware of. >> searching for answers, those who sought tragedy up close, who describe it as a war zone. >> tar, sheetrock, you name it, a bunch of dust, and a bunch of cries, help, help, help, help, help. >> reporter: that 61-year-old woman treated at the university of pennsylvania, her injuries believed not life threatening. 14 people pulled out. hoping and believe everyone is accounted for. but searching just in case. i want to bring in someone who witnessed this and probably took the only picture that we saw of the building actually collapsing and that is jordan here. jordan mclaughlan, a student, 18 years old. and walking back from school,

early dismissal. let me show you the corner real quick. standing right on that corner and you were picking up the phone with your mom, what happened. talking to your mom? >> about to call my mom, and what happened was i saw the building starting to shake, and it seemed like to be like a mudslide, and everything started to slide on top of the thrift shop. at that moment, i already had my phone out, opened up the camera app and shot a few pictures. >> reporter: you said you felt the street rumble, the ground shake? >> yeah, one guy standing right in front of the store, and he -- he fell over. >> reporter: what did you do? pulled out your camera, took the picture, one of the only images -- initial images of this, you took it out and ran over and started to help as well. >> yeah, i took a picture, all the cars pretty much stopped and i rant through the traffic, and i just got on top of the rubble and tried to start pulling

people out. >> yeah. there were people in traffic as well. one gentleman who said he was stuck in his truck for a while? >> yes. >> so you start pulling people out, you said it was a team effort. how did you manage to do this? >> it started with the construction workers, me and some other people that came from the street and started to help out, and then just lifting piece by piece, that were on top of other people. >> reporter: yeah, the fire station literally in the same block here, took the fire department not long to get here. did they tell you guys, it's not safe for you, you should get out? >> we started with the fire department and we worked alongside of them, until the rest of the fire department came. >>. >> reporter: you said you saw the wall, went back and forth, thought it was going to fall into the demolition site and then it went the other way. when you said it was one person, you couldn't believe. thought it would be more. turns out it was more. six people died in all of this.

john, christine, he witnessed it, a lot of people and heroes here in philadelphia helping out. >> i can't imagine walking by a building like that and seeing it collapse, and the sense to do what he did, go in and help people. thank you. and jordan, our thanks to you too. former republican presidential nominee mitt romney, revealing what it felt like to lose last year's election and return to private life. in an interview, he talkeded about the moment his public bubble burst. >> christine and john, i sat down with mitt and anne romney in park city, utah. some people coming out here, chris christie and a potential presidential candidate. paul ryan, and david axelrod, who as you recall, one of the democrats who succeeded in beating mitt romney. i asked the governor what it's like to go from being one of the most prominent people in the

world, and overnight be a private citizen again, loading your groceries in the back of your car at the costco. >> we lived our entire life, if you will, in privacy, like most people do and then there was this extraordinary period of a year or so, when we were highly visible and there is the secret service around you, people getting everything you want. in your hotel room, can't even leave your hotel room. they put exercise equipment in my hotel room so i could exercise, because i couldn't go down to the regular exercise room without being photographed. in a very public bubble for a while, and when it disappears and it disappears overnight, when you lose the election, snap, it's gone, and back to where you were before, and it feels right. >> reporter: governor romney says this conference is the first step in getting involved in the public debate in some way. we talked about the controversies in washington, like the irs and benghazi, but the governor himself assured me

that while he wants to reengage in public life, he has absolutely no intention of running for public office. christine and john. >> got to be a professional grandfather. of course, conference should be interesting this morning with republican contenders and democrats to speak about the issues. >> see the entire interview on "the lead" with jake tapper. and renewed hope for the family of a soldier captured by a taliban member in 2009. they have received a letter from him. live report, coming up. ♪ ♪ ♪

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welcome back to "starting point." minding your business. dow futures up 30 points, not enough to get the blue chips about 13,000. the nasdaq had a biggest drop in almost on two months. may not see any big bets today, because we're waiting for tomorrow's jobs report. more expensive to get a mortgage. 30-year fixed rate above 4% in more than a year. rates still relatively low. rising the past few weeks. mortgage bankers association says it's scaring away some buyers, rates are rising because of fears thinking about ending the stimulus program. donald trump taking over one of the most iconic buildings in washington, d.c. the old post office. trump reached a deal to turn the 114-year-old building to a luxury hotel with restaurants, conference facilities and a spa. and it is expected to be ready

in 2016. the deal must be reviewed by congress. are and gets to be neighbors with the president. that will be nice for both of them. sources close to the jackson family are calling a possible suicide attempt by michael jackson's daughter a cry for help. paris jackson taken to the hospital early wednesday morning. she had cut one of her wrists a suicide prevention officer called 911 after speaking to the teen, just last week, paris jackson posted a how to makeup video on youtube. >> i need serious help. i am crazy, i am crazy. anyway, if this helped, i doubt it did, yeah, so this is me when i'm done with makeup many. >> jackson family attorney says paris jackson physically fine and getting appropriate medical attention this morning. could be the most powerful

woman in america, but a brit may play her on the silver screen. kerry mulligan the leading contender for hillary clinton in an upcoming film that will focus on the early days of clinton's political career and her relation shup with future president bill clinton. several americans reportedly in the running for the starring role, such as scarlett johansson. jessica chase taken atain. >> maybe it's pay back for meryl streep playing margaret thatcher. and pippa middleton is joining "vanity fair." she is planning the baby shower for her sister, the duchess of cambridge. >> what is your favorite thing about pippa middleton. >> i think she is charming and

smart. t i think her party planning book was awesome. >> just wanted that on the record. the family of a u.s. soldier captured by the taliban in 2009, getting flame eglimmer of hope. and a texas judge raked over the coals after comments she made about death penalty and minorities. details after the break. have hail damage to both their cars. ted

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family has received about the fate of bowe bergdahl. an army soldier from idaho captured four years ago in eastern afghanistan. heard from very few names a couple of videos. the family has indicated they have received a letter through the red cross from him. giving them some hope that he is alive and is well as can be expected after being in captivity all this time. this has all emerged in the last day or so in an e-mail exchange between bergdahl's father and a supporter in idaho, named dwight murphy, who posted a letter on his facebook page. what dwight murphy, a family supporter had to say about all of this. >> that brings new found hope, that's like sitting around a camp fire going out and all of a sudden you find that one more log to keep the fire going. >> family supporter who is indicating this letter, we have

haven't independently confirmed it, is now giving hope. i want to read some of the additional material that dwight posted on his facebook page. he says " -- mr. bergdahl is saying this on the facebook page. we have received a letter from bowe through the red cross. he was scripted and redacted is but he was no doubt alive and his fax umts fully functions as of two months ago. they are being very careful with him. he is still highly valued at high levels. bowe bergdahl, many u.s. officials feel he is a bargainibargain ing chip in the taliban peace talks with the afghan government. hope as the war winds down he will be released back to his family. but it has been four years, john. >> hope for that family, but what an ordeal. barbara starr, thank you so much. a judge in texas, facing harsh criticism for a speech she gave on the death penalty.

she says minorities are more likely to commit crimes and racial biases in death sentencing is a red herring. ed lav an derra with more on this judge's controversial remarks. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. chances are you never heard of judge edith jones on the fifth circuit court of appeals in new orleans. comes from texas and a history at times of making controversial statements and getting critics up in arms. the latest speech leaves no doubt about that. are some minorities more predisposed to commit violent crimes? one judge from texas says yes. appeals court judge edith jones made the comments in a february speech before the federalist society at the university of pennsylvania law school. she is seen here speaking before the same group in 2009. >> thank you. it's my pleasure to moderate this excellent panel this morning. >> reporter: she's now being

accused of racial bias, and several civil rights organizations have filed a complaint of judicial misconduct against her. in the plaint, the groups say judge jones said that certain racial groups, like african-americans and hispanics, are predispossessed to crime and prone to commit acts of violent and get involved in more violent and heinous crimes than people of other ethnicities and racial bi complaints were a red herring. she is not making any comment regarding the matter. mandy price, the president of one of the groups that filed the complaint. >> the fact that a judge could be predisposed on an outof a case is something that no one not.

we don't expect that when we go to court before a judge. we expect them to be fair, impartial, not that they predetermined the outcome of the case. >> judge jones on the list as a potential nominee of the u.s. supreme court during the bush presidency there is a firestorm of reaction. among tweets, judge edith jones should resign. bias views have no place on the bench. what do you do with a federal judge, who if not crazy, is simply a rotten human being? >> we have dutese, responsibilities and rules in our jobs. as a judge you have the same duties and responsibilities as anyone else would have with their employer and as a judge, she must abide by the judicial canons. >> reporter: christine, an interesting note to all of this. this judicial complaint goes before the chief judge of the circuit. a man named bill stewart.

first african-american jurist to hold that position. >> interesting. ed lavandera, thank you. a preempttive strike against the new middle east respiratory virus. the mers virus, a potential health emergency. this allows action before it becomes a problem in the u.s. a two-pill version of the controversial plan b should be sold without age restrictions or a prescription. but judges blocked a one-pill version. the obama administration says it's reviewing the decision. within the pentagon report, the agency gave unprecedented access to the screen writer and film writer of "zero dark thirty." he met several times with the team that flushed out osama bin laden and access to what was

then considered top-secret material. the obama administration was eager to milk publicity over the killing of bin laden ahead of the 2010 election. a new chance at a life saving transplant. >> oh, oh! >> a federal judge's ruling keeps the department of health and human services from enforcing a rule that denies sarah murngahan access to the transplant list. six people suffered minor injuries when a woman crashed her mind i have van through a taco bell on tuesday afternoon. 36-year-old woman driving the minivan may have experienced a medical emergency. look at that. right through the front window. >> oh, wow. >> a star athlete and honor student from detroit stunned his high school classmate when he took the stage at graduation, just months after being shot in the head. and a whole lot more he plans to

do following his amazing recovery. hard to believe two months ago this michigan teenager couldn't walk, talk, or even stand. in april he was shot in the head while trying to break up a fight at a party. at northwestern high school, he was an honor student, football star, student council president and senior class president. balaal excelling you in the bullet that struck him in the head threatened to take everything away instead of finishing out his senior year, he spent weeks in the hospital, fighting for his life. miraculously, he walked on stage at the graduation ceremony, surprising classmates. >> first of all, i want to thank god. it is so good to be alive. i got shot in the head and i'm fully rehabilitated. >> now, full erehabilitated balaal, working on his pitching arm.

last night, invited to throw out the first ceremonial pitch at comerica park in a stadium full of detroit tigers fans. >> i want to show that, yeah, i got shot in the head, but i'm still myself. i hope that people just get inspired by my story and know you can make it through anything if you just have faith in d. >> what a lucky and determined kid. i love that kid. >> i love the tassel. better than any mortarboard. >> he has plenty of credits, he hasn't been to school for weeks because he's been recovering. no one expected to walk, and he did it, all of the credits, graduating, really proud. monitoring severe weather around the country,e especiallyn florida. >> first tropical storm of the season, tropical storm andrea out there. steady winds, 60 miles per hour and a current tornado warning west of ft. lauderdale. heavy rain, and expected 7 to 8

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welcome back to "starting point," everyone. a name to go along with the 5$50 million powerball ticket. a woman in florida coming forward to claim her prize. 18 days after the drawing. who is she? let's get more from cnn's john zarrella. >> speculating is over, finished. finally we know. this woman walked out of florida lottery headquarters in tallahassee, so wealthy, all you can say is wow. >> and the winner of the 5$590 million jackpot is mrs. gloria c. mackenzie, 84 years of age, of zephyrhills, florida. >> reporter: the pot of gold? a powerball ticket. the lump summ payment, nearly $370 million. did not appear at the news conference an ouncing the

winner. this statement was read. >> we bought this as a single ticket, but we bought fourory tickets before the drawing. while in line, another lottery player was kind enough to let me go ahead of them in line to purchase the winning quick pick ticket. >> reporter: talk about luck. someone let her go first and a quick pick ticket, not even favorite numbers? you got to think someone upst r upstairs really likes gloria. she lived humbly, in a tiny duplex. the sticker on the door reads, private, no solisiting. >> her neighbor said she only saw her once and she never let on. >> that's smart. who are your friends, everybody is your friend if you have a lot of money. >> here with the son, and i said, gloria, i don't see, what's going on with you?

and the son told me, oh, she was a little bit sick and she's at home with me, and that's what they told me. >> reporter: right. can you say smoke screen? but you know, winning that kin of cash is enough to make anyone dizzy. now the folks in zephyrhills, can settle down, and exhale. john zarrella. >> giant karma on that person's account who let her go first. any such thing as carma the person who gave up 5$590 millio. >> i hope that person doesn't realize it. every day you would wake up and cry. >> makes you think twice about being politely. just saying. >> john, you are always politely. >> not for $590 million.

two fwirgirls from cambodiat from scouring garbage to college. fredericka whitfield has the story. >> we were just horrified. there were hundreds of people on this giant garbage dump. >> the smell was horrible. >> reporter: it was 2002, when bill and lauren smith ended up at this garbage dump outside phnom penh. sightseeing when their driver asked if they wanted to see the children. >> starving, picking through garbage for a few cents a day. >> reporter: so the smiths decided to help one person. >> i remember seeing this little girl with the red hat, and i don't know if it was the red hat or if it was her eyes. but just looked hopeless. >> the moto guy came up and says this foreigner wants to talk to

you, help you go to school. >> they took her home to talk to her mother and met 12-year-old celi celine. >> we thought that we have to help the sister too. >> reporter: they agreed to pay the sisters what they made at the dump. about $10 a month. >> at agreement, we would pay for everything, put them in school and they could never go back to the dump again. >> we feel like we're second family. i get emotional. because i don't have a feeling with my family that much. >> reporter: now the two young women are attending college in chicago. >> education to me is like a second life. >> gives me goosebumps. >> good for them. ahead on "starting point." tsa, pressure to do an about-face to allow passengers to bring long banned items on planes. which items are affected, what you can bring, you are watching "starting point." ♪

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investigators may have found the cause of a deadly fire on a san francisco area bridge. kjtv reporting that it is believed air springs ruptured that led to a chain reaction. small knifes still on the no-fly list. the tfrp sa backtracked on a plan to let banned items on planes. some items don't pose a threat. but lawmaker, groups

representing pilots and flight attendants say it would threaten safety. chrysler refusing to recall millions of jeeps that the government says pose a risk of fire is sparking concern among those who own the suvs. stephanie elam reports. >> the death machine. >> reporter: that's what this mother of two calls her jeep grand cherokee. >> someone comes up too fast behind me, i get panicked and think about exit scenarios. most of my commuting, if possible, is done on boy. i don't to the get rear ended. >> reporter: the maker of jeep, chrysler, and the national highway transportation association is making headlines. chrysler refusing to recall the

2.8 million jeep models who the government says has a faulty gas tank design. it would target 2002 to 2007 jeep liberty. and 1193 to 2004 jeep cherokee. like everyone else he asked, he had no idea that there was no talk of a recall. >> if it's true what they said that -- i mean, there is damage or it can catch on fire if i get rear ended, yeah, it should be recalled, and, yeah, it does freak me out a little. >> reporter: others taking a different stance, like this driver who posted on twitter, sorry, but i'm not handing over my fiery death trap for such miniscule repairs, hold strong, chrysler. >> reporter: car sales experts say that car sale is not an option. >> people aren't looking for a

car that will catch on fire, no matter what the price is. >> reporter: chrysler believes the cars are safe and stats are on the company's side. >> if you drove one of these jeeps for ten years, the odds of this happening to you would still be like something in 1 in 100,000. >> reporter: that's little comfort for cowan. she created a facebook page, and she is saving up for a new car. >> when i have long trips and i will be on the highway, i rent a car. i don't want to put my family at jeopardy. >> stephanie elam, los angeles. the first lady head to head with a heckler and stands her ground. video next. >> guess who wins? >> no, no.

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you are about to see a side of the first lady you haven't seen before. she was speaking at a fund-raiser tuesday night when she was interrupted by a heckler. what happened next has everyone buzzing in washington. here is erin mcbike. >> exclusive images of michelle obama tuesday night. speaking at an exclusive fund-raiser hosted by a lesbian couple at their toney washington, d.c. home. giving an impassioned speech on one of her favorite topics,

children. >> they are counting on us to give them the chances they need for the future they deserve. >> reporter: one woman in the crowd wanted to talk about something else. gay rights. >> i need your husband -- >> hard to hear, but that's ellen sturt sfwlnz from the gro equal. asking the first lady why he president has not barred an order that would bar a company from discriminating against gay and lesbian couples. >> i don't care what you believe. wait. wait. wait. one of the things i don't do well is this. >> i'm leaving. >> can i take the mike? >> i'm leaving. >> i need your husband.

>> but i'm leaving, so you all decide. >> no, please don't leave. >> reporter: she made her way back to the potd ydium to make point. >> let me make the point i was making before. we are here for our kids. >> someone in a sense verbally got in her face and she didn't like it. >> reporter: lynn sweet has covered the obamas for years. >> she is disciplined, rarely goes off script or puts her in a position where she could have something happen unexpected. >> reporter: the first lady's unscripted response is different than how her more practiced husband handles hecklers, like two weeks ago during a major

foreign policy speech at national defense university. >> part of free speech is you being able to speak, but also you listening and me being able to speak. all right? >> reporter: a softer touch than michelle's tough talk. >> my personal opinion sheehanled it brilliantly. >> reporter: president obama has said for years that michelle obama is one tough cookie. this fund-raiser is one of the first times that americans really got to see it, erin mcpike, cnn, washington. too big exciting announcements to tell you about. this sunday, the season finale of "parts unknown." an increasdible adventure on th congo. and george stroumboulopoulos. kicks off sunday night on cnn.

>> a new wide screen tv to fit all that. >> that's it for "starting point." i'm christine romans. >> and i'm john berman. >> cnn newsroom with christi paul begins right now. happening now in the newsroom. sounds like one of george orwell's worst nightmares, a u.s. spy agency tracking phone calls of millions of americans. it may be legal under the patriot act. found alive. rescue workers rescue a woman that spent 12 hours trapped under several tons of debris after a building demolition debac debacle. rains, already starting, as tropical storm andrea takes aim at florida gulf coast. and michael jackson's only daughter rushed to the hospital after an apparent suicide attempt, among the