catch this bear. he escaped and that's the name of the street he got away on, black bear lane. >> what are the odds of that? >> seriously, he knew that was his spot. if i'm ever going to make it, i got to go on black bear lane. officials think it was a young bear, about 150 pounds. thanks for starting your morning with us. >> we have much more ahead on "cnn saturday morning" which starts right now. good morning, everyone. so great to have you here with us on this saturday morning. i'm pamela brown. >> always a pleasure, i'm victor blackwell. 8:00 on the east coast, 5:00 out coast. we start on the west coast in california, still waiting to learn the name of a man who went on a shooting rampage, happened yesterday in the oceanfront city of santa monica. authorities say the suspect killed four people including his father and brother and wounded five others before police killed

him. police say the shooting spree started at a home near santa monica college and then spilled onto campus and that was just ten minutes from where president obama was holding a fund-raiser. though we don't know the shooter's name, police say he was a white male between 25 and 35 years old and he apparently wore black tactical gear and was armed with pistols and an ar-15 assault rifle, semiassault rifle with extra clips. cnn's miguel marquez has the latest from santa monica. >> reporter: a deadly rampage rolling through the streets of santa monica. 11:52 a.m., a man wearing all black clothing and tactical gear leaves this house, inside two victims believed to be the shooter's father and brother. >> he was coming out of the house, the gate of the house, across the street and i noticed that house was on fire, and i thought he'd been firing into the house. >> reporter: the gunman then

jumped into a car, forcing the driver with him. later he opened fire on a santa monica city bus, no deaths thanks to a quick thinking bus driver. >> it happened right in front of me. i was in my car and a guy on the left side of the street jumped out of a car with a big black gun and started blasting rounds at all of our cars and the buildings and the bus. >> reporter: then just minutes after that the gunman shot up a building at an intersection in santa monica and forced them to take him to santa monica college. >> i heard a couple of shots and someone came into our office and said to get out. i instinctively ran into the hallway and when i got out there i saw a gentleman dressed in all black. >> reporter: the incident cut a mile-long deadly path from the house set on fire to the library at santa monica college packed with students studying for finals. >> he just looked like he was standing there posing for the

cover of an ammo magazine or something, it was bizarre, very calm, not running around, not yelling, just looking around to target very casually. >> reporter: less than 15 minutes after it started he was over. four victims and the gunman dead. >> the officers came in and directly engaged the suspect and he was shot and killed on the scene. >> reporter: his body moved from the library and taken to a sidewalk where he was finally pronounced dead. now a couple of things to update you on. police say even though they're not releasing the name of the suspect they do know who it is and warrants may have been served at one location overnight and if not they will be soon and unfortunately, there was a fifth person taken to the hospital last night, police last night said she was in extremely critical condition, she also went through surgery and it looks, there are reports at the moment that she may not have made it, so that death toll may go up very soon by one. back to you guys.

>> all right, miguel, thank you so much. keep us updated. brett saw blood smeared on walls and floors after the gunman opened fire. is he a student at santa monica college. set the scene for us, where were you when the shooting happened? >> i was about 100 feet away inside the library, my friend and i were studying for finals. yesterday was going to be my last day at santa monica college and i had one final left and around 12:30 p.m. i was studying with my friend, i said hey i'm going to go use the restroom and i was using the restroom and i heard a scream and i really wasn't sure what it was. i thought, i didn't really think anything of it. as i was walking out i heard a bang, didn't think anything of it and a second later bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, and i knew exactly what it was and i ran and grabbed my stuff and my

classmates, threw them into a study room, i told them look, guys, this is exactly what's happening, we all need to remain calm right now, we need to call 911, just absolutely be as silent as possible and i kind of took over a leadership goal. i'm an l.a. county lifeguard, trained to deal with times of stress and anxiety, dealt with cpr, heart attack so i took a leadership role and tried to comfort my classmates because they were in absolute hysterics. >> so that crisis management training really helped you. were you able to get a good look at the gunman? >> no, the only sighting of that i saw was when he was dead on pearl street. >> how quickly did police respond to the shooting? >> they were there within minutes. it was incredible how fast they got there. i mean, from the time that i heard the rapid bang, bang, bang in the library and to the time

they got us out, they evacuated us it was 35 minutes so i'm surer this there within three minutes. >> i bet your heart was jumping out of your chest. i can't imagine what that must have been like. i have to ask you, brett, you mentioned it was the last day for you. are you going back to santa monica college in the fall after this? >> i'm transferring to arizona state in the fall as a journalism major so i have no problem going back to the school, i'm not afraid of it. it's just one of those things, just so out of the blue. i'm not scared of the school. things like this happen so i still love my college and i'm proud to say i'm a student there and i'd be more than happy to go back. it's just such a tragic event. >> brett hozhauer, thank you for sharing your story. >> thank you for having me. now to south africa, where their most beloved figures is rushed to the hospital from his home overnight. we're hearing his condition

deteriorated when a troublesome lung infection reoccurred. the 94-year-old anti-apartheid icon and nobel peace laureate is now breathing on his own, his wife is there at his bedside. we'll take you live to south africa for the latest on his condition ahead in this hour. ariel castro has been indicted on 329 counts. the indictment describes years of brutal assaults from taping one of the victims to a pole, to chaining her to a car with a vacuum cord tied around her neck. one charge accuses the 52-year-old castro of aggravated murder for purposely causing the end of one pregnancy. here's a more detailed breakdown of the indictment, 139 counts of rape, 177 counts of kidnapping, seven counts of gross sexual imposition, three counts of felonious assault. castro will be arraigned

sometime next week. and now to texas where a pregnant actress is accused of mailing ricin laced letters to president obama and mayor michael bloomberg. federal investigators say she tried to blame it on her husband. susan candiotti joins us from new york. what is the fbi saying about this woman. >> reporter: to hear authorities tell it, this was one troubled marriage and if the charges are true, you have a wife who went to extreme lengths apparently to get back at her husband. shannon richardson, that is her name, also an actress, stage name shannon rodgers or shannon guess. in court papers the fbi charges her with in effect setting up her husband accusing her of writing and sending letters tainted with ricin to president obama. new york city mayor michael bloomberg and michael glaze in washington. in court papers richardson

planted evidence in and around her house for example she also looked up ricin on the computer to create a history, put a tupperware contain we are ingredients inside that could be made to make ricin and scattered castor beans in the trunk of her husband's car. she allegedly mailed the letters in texas and drove to shreveport, louisiana and met with the fbi to accuse her husband of sending the ricin letters. the letters said in part, "you will have to kill me and my family before you get my guns. anyone wants to come to my house will get shot in the face. the right to bear arms is my constitutional god-given right and i will exercise that right 'til the day i die." the fbi interviewed her husband, he blamed his wife. he was he said/she said. she allegedly failed a polygraph and then told the fbi her husband made her do it. now she's in jail and according to the fbi she's pregnant and on

thursday authorities said her husband filed for divorce. >> susan as we mentioned she is an actress, lives in texas. have you been able to gather any reaction from the people that she worked with? >> well, i'll tell you, we found on twitter, of all places, some tweets from the former executive producer of "the walking dead" where she allegedly played a role as an extra and also from someone else who used to work on that show, now works for "the vampire diaries. >> "some actress from "the walking dead" sent ricin to the prez? never heard of her. anyone know what role she played? he gets a response from the ep of "the vampire diaries" if she played an equivalent part to the one she played on "the vampire diaries" she was third background from the right or something. ouch. >> ouch, i would say that's

pretty accurate. you mentioned her husband filed for divorce. you wonder if this was a way of setting up her husband but now she's facing serious charges. >> very serious charges. in fact this is a federal complaint it might go on to the stage of being an indictment, but if she is found guilty of these charges she could face up to ten years in prison. >> wow. all right, susan candiotti, thank you so much. we've got more just ahead this hour. >> packed hour. here's what's coming up. tropical storm andrea may have been downgraded but it's still causing big problems on the east coast. more than 100 flights canceled, roads flooded and now the rain that began in florida is expected to reach as far as maine. woo! >> a 10-year-old girl in

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we had planned to speak right now janet murnaghan, the mom of the 10-year-old little girl, pennsylvania girl who desperately needs a lung transplant. >> yes but we just spoke to her and she just told us that sarah struggled badly overnight and is doing "horribly," and so of course janet is not doing well either. janet's latest facebook post tell the story, at 3:20 this morning she wrote i'm up because sarah's numbers, heart and oxygen, don't look good, stressing but believing our good news will come soon in the form of new lungs, and just a few minutes ago, sarah is still doing bad, worse, actually. >> our thoughts and prayers are with sarah and the news comes as the group that sets national rules for lung transplants is planning to hold an emergency meeting monday to review and possibly change its policy on child organ recipients. the meeting was called after a

federal judge granted sarah and another very sick child priority access to transplants from adult donors. cnn national correspondent jason carroll has that part of the story before. >> reporter: javier acosta's family is hoping he has a better chance at surviving. he needs a lung transplant and so, too, does 10-year-old sarah murnaghan. ♪ twinkle, twinkle little star >> reporter: she suffers from the same disease, both are at the same hospital in philadelphia. each family praying a lung donor will come in time now thanks to a federal judge's decision. >> we sat down and explained the system a little bit and in a way she so understand. she had a lot of hope last night when i explained that to her. >> reporter: earlier this week the judge ordered the department of health and human services to temporarily suspend policy in sarah and javier's case which

prevented all children under the age of 12 from receiving priority in the adult pool of patients waiting for transplants. lung donations from children are rare, but children can use a nodified lung from an adult and since there are more lung donations from adults, the murnaghans say what should happen now is clear. >> the system needs to be changed. it needs to be fair for everyone, for adults and for children. i don't want sarah in front of anyone who is sicker. this should be the sickest person first. >> reporter: javier's family knows the pain of waiting all too well. in 2009 his brother, who also had cystic fibrosis, died while waiting for a transplant. the murnaghans initiated the lawsuit against hhs and secretary kathleen sebelius urging her to change the so-called under 12 rule. sebelius was questioned about it during a budget hearing. >> the worst of all worlds in my mind is to have some individual pick and choose who lives and who dies. i think you want a process where

it's guided by medical science and medical experts. >> reporter: the hhs has declined to comment on the ongoing legal matter. on monday the united network for organ sharing, that's the organization that manages the list, and works with hhs, will hold an emergency meeting to review its lung allocation policy. the lawyer representing both families says the organization should do more than just review it. >> i think the prudent thing this do would be to suspend the policy pending further review. >> reporter: and suspending the policy is not entirely out of the question. in a copy of the letter from the united network for organize sharing written to secretary sebelius earlier this week, if says if their committee finds the available data suggests a change is warranted the committee would be able to approve it. pamela? victor? >> thank you, jason. as sarah waits for those new lungs we're hearing this morning from her mother that she struggled overnight and is actually doing worse so again

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bottom of the hour now, welcome back, everyone. thank you so much for being here with us on this saturday morning. i'm pamela brown. >> i'm victor blackwell. 8:30 on the east coast. now a respectable hour on the west coast, 5:30, people starting to wake up. let's start with five stories we're watching this morning. number one now cleveland, the kidnapping suspect, ariel castro, has been indicted on 329 charges, meaning he so get more than 3,000 years behind bars if he's convicted of all 329. the former school bus driver is accused of holding amanda berry, gina dejesus and michelle knight for ten years and accuses castro of aggravated murder for purposely causing the end of one

pregnancy, in total astro now faces the following, 139 counts of rape, 177 counts of kidnapping, seven counts of gross sexual imposition, three counts of felonious assault and a single count of possession of criminal tools. number two, a presidential spokesperson says everything is being done to ensure that nelson mandela gets better. south africa's first black president was rushed to the hospital overnight. his condition deteriorated when a persistent lung infection flared up again. we'll take you live to south africa just ahead for the latest on how he's doing. third story a texas actress is accused of sending ricin laced letters to president obama and new york mayor michael bloomberg. the fbi arrested shannon richardson and says she admitted sending the letters but she claimed her husband forced her to do it. now her husband says she lied to the fbi. he's now filed for divorce. richardson, who is pregnant, faces ten years in prison if

she's convicted. and at number four we have new information on a deadly building collapse in philadelphia. city hall sources tell cnn a crane operator working to demolish a building had marijuana and pain medication in his blood. he could face manslaughter charges. six people died. and five now, this is the big story this morning, we're still waiting to learn the name of the gunman who opened fire at santa monica college yesterday. by the time police had him in their sights he already killed four people including his father and brother and wounded five more. he died in a shoot-out with police. authorities say the gunman was a white male between 25 and 30 years old. he was armed with pistols and an ar-15 rifle with extra clips. police say the shooting spree started at a home near santa monica college. the gunman then reportedly carjacked the vehicle and headed to campus, this ended outside

the library where police shot the suspect and it all went down just ten minutes, just a short drive from where president obama was holding a fund raise per. cnn's miguel marquez is in santa monica this morning. miguel, what have we learned about the gunman? we learned a few hours ago that the two people inside that home that we saw burning yesterday were his brother and his father. what else do we know about him? >> we know investigators do know his name. we believe that they served warrants, either they served them overnight or they will be serving them shortly and throughout the day, trying to learn more about who this guy is and figure out if there is any more concern that they need to have because of him. i also want to update you on one of the victims. we may have a fifth victim in all of this. last night police saying that the woman who underwent surgery at ronald reagan ucla medical center, she also was very, very critical as they described it, and there is some reporting this morning here in los angeles that

she has expired unfortunately so that victim count would go up to five but it is not clear who this person was aiming for or what set it off or what the motivation was. one witness we spoke to saw him. >> he looked very official to me. i thought maybe he was s.w.a.t., he was in paramilitary gear and sort of walking casually down the hallway and had a rifle across his chest. i was waiting for some instruction from him as to where to go or what to do and he didn't say anything. he was just walking towards me and so i ran with a colleague down the hall and when we got to the outside door, he was still walking in our direction and i paused to look back at him. >> reporter: now police say that they are looking at nine different crime scenes here because of this one incident or series of incidents. there are six or seven different locations across santa monica

where this person opened up and fired on people, buildings, buses, and the like, and they are just getting through all of that today, we hope for another press conference around 1:00 p.m. eastern today out here in santa monica that will have more information, the big news at the moment though is it sounds like that death toll unfortunately may go up by one. back to you guys. >> really large crime scene there, we see the tape behind you, more than 15 hours after this started. miguel marquez in santa monica for us, thank you. with each shooting the possibility of ending the tragedies seems more remote. >> we're left trying to prevent the next one. joining success harold copus, former fbi special agent. we've been talking about this before the break, some of the things that stand out to me and pamela, what stands out about this shooting, if anything? >> i guess you would think it

was planned. you'd think what this guy was doing, had it all mapped up and the crazy shooting of the two ladies where he tries hijacking a car. >> you walk out of the house with the weapons in this black gear and go to the home where your father and brother are, allegedly he did this because we're still waiting for all the information and then you just wait for a car come by to take it to the campus, makes it seem as if the second half wasn't planned. does that seem that way to you? >> i agree. it appears that what he was going was his family and after he's done that, my gosh, what am i going to do next and that was just a random act, and unfortunately it led to something far more serious. >> who are alleged we've seen mass shootings in practically every part of the country, recently we've seen it in newtown, connecticut, denver, colorado, santa monica, california, is there a particular part of the country that's more vulnerable to these types of shootings or not? >> well you'd like to think so

but unfortunately it's not. it can be anywhere, as we've seen that. so the only common thread appears to be someone who has an issue and the type and choice of weapons they're using. >> do you think though, it seems like and tell me if i'm wrong that with each shooting it might sort of galvanize someone else, another shooter to go and act perhaps. why are we seeing all of these shootings in such a short span of time? >> well, the simple thing i believe is it is copycat. i've seen it one time, i have a beef, i'm going to do the same thing. >> we're still waiting to find out if there was a beef and what that beef would have been especially with his father and his brother, but i want to read you something that joe orcut said, he works at the university "the gunman was very calm, not running around, looking around for targets. he looked like he was standing there posing for the cover of an ammo magazine or something, it was diczar." we saw something similar at

shooting at the theater in aurora. is this some type of profile each of these guys they're going after, this kind of heroic look as they're going to kill these people? >> i think what you'll find, and that may be an ease ye way of saying it and another way of saying it is this person is going to a zone that most of us would never enter so i'm not thinking rational. i'm about as cool as i can be. look what i've done. i'm ready to face death. >> you think in the case of santa monica, perhaps the shooter was emboldened, allegedly killed his brother and dad. >> what what else do i have to lose. >> thank you. reports say the nsa has been gathering phone and computer data from its citizens. >> now many are wondering about the legality of government data mining. up yex we'll talk to paul callan about your privacy rights. [ mal] if your kid can recognize your sneeze from a crowd...

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when it comes to telephone calls, nobody is listening to your telephone calls. that's not what this program's about. as was indicated -- >> that's the president's response to critics of the nsa's monitoring program. it was revealed this week that the u.s. government is secretly spying on millions of americans by collecting vast amounts of phone records and e-mails. also access to the servers of some of the top u.s. technology firms like microsoft, google and facebook, among others. and it's been happening for years, but the big question, is

it legal? for that we bring in cnn legal analyst paul callan. paul we've been hearing over and over again from politicians, senator dianne feinstein and others saying this is a legal program but does the government have the right to collect data from ordinary law-abiding u.s. citizens? >> it's not an easy question, pamela, because there are complex rules and they differ from state to state but on a federal level they do, because the system has something in place called the fisa court. it's a special secret court that was permitted, it was actually set up in the 1970s and as part of the patriot act. the government was given wide powers to gather data and to see if that data provides links to terrorists, and i think what's happening now is, we're kind of surprised at how sophisticated the feds have gone about this. they've got a system in place

apparently that will show who calls whom on the telephone, domestically in and foreign places, and they also have the ability to see who is looking at certain websites and gathering information from those websites and then on the basis of that raw information, they go to a federal judge and say we want a search warrant now to go into a specific person's account, so it's very orwellian in the sense that big brother is watching everything now and i this i it's disturbing to a lot of people that our privacy has been compromised like this, but of course, on the other hand, if you talk to a lot of americans, ordinary people, and i'm not talking about people in the press and the media, who are all uptight about this. i talked to a lot of people here in new york who say hey, if it's going to stop them from detonating a nuke in times square, be my guest. you can look at what i'm looking at on the internet. i don't care about it. so i think there's a real dichotomy here that americans are looking at, giving up

privacy rights for safety. >> brings up that protection versus privacy debate. on that note, paul, what safeguards do americans have if any that their privacy rights are being abused? >> i think the first major problem that we have is we don't know what's going on. these revelations have been shocking to most experts in the field that there's been such a sophisticated ongoing program of what they call data mining of virtually everything on the internet being so closely monitored by federal authorities, and i think first we need a congressional investigation to find out what's going on, and then we have to see if we need new legislation to make sure the judges are looking at this and that privacy rights are protected. >> so paul, where is the line drawn between the government overreach and national security? where do you draw that line? >> i could answer that question 20 years ago and say you know something? unless, and i want to talk about a concept that lawyers and

judges have always had in this country, it's called individualized suspicion. they have to suspect that you are a criminal and they have to start gathering evidence against you and then they go to a federal judge and they get a warrant to get more information, individualized suspicion, but we now live in a world where the government is saying we can't operate under that premise. we have to be able to monitor anybody who might have a connection to terrorism, anyone who might have a link to al qaeda. they want to investigate and gather data on a broader basis because they say the terrorists are so sophisticated, we can't afford to make a mistake and there's one critical piece of information that we don't know at this point. how many terrorist attacks has the government stopped that we don't know about? have there been serious attacks on major american cities that have been foiled by this privacy, you know, violation, massive privacy violation that's been going on.

we need to have that information to be able to measure how much of our privacy should really be protected. >> that is the big question and would that justify the use of this program. paul callan, thank you so much. >> nice being with you. and we're following new news this morning on nelson mandela. he was rushed to the hospital overnight. we'll have an update on his condition live from south africa, right after this break. [old english accent] i doth declare that thou have brought overmany discounts to thine customers! [old english accent] safe driver, multi-car, paid in full -- a most fulsome bounty indeed, lord jamie. thou cometh and we thy saveth! what are you doing? we doth offer so many discounts, we have some to spare. oh, you have any of those homeowners discounts? here we go. thank you. he took my shield, my lady. these are troubling times in the kingdom. more discounts than we knoweth what to do with. now that's progressive.

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welcome back. ten minutes before the top of the hour and former south african president nelson mandela is back in the hospital. 94 years old, civil rights icon, he was rushed to the hospital overnight. cnn's robyn curnow is monitoring the situation, she's in johannesburg, south africa.

robyn, what do we know about mr. mandela and his condition? >> reporter: absolutely, you're right about that, we don't get a lot of information, very limited information coming from the government. it's 1:30 a.m. south african time this morning, nelson mandela's condition deteriorated seriously enough for his doctors who live with him to take him to hospital. he's suffering from the recurring lung infection which is essentially pneumonia and remember his home is like an intensive care unit so the fact they felt his condition was so bad he had to go to hospital is indicative of the seriousness of this. that said we have heard in the last hour or so from the presidential spokesperson that he is breathing on his own which of course is good news. >> who is there with him? we see this video from april he's surrounded by family members, maybe some close friends but who is with him

today? >> reporter: well today we understand his wife is by his bed, also probably some close family members but this is a high care unit in this hospital. he's going to be very, very closely monitored. his doctors are not going to want a lot of people coming to visit or coming in and out. they're going to be very nervous of infections, of any other complications. so i think they're going to be very few people with him, most crucially is his wife because she is obviously a soothe, a balm to him and those close to him feel if he knows that she is there, that will help in his recovery. >> and we have several times over the past few months over the last year reported on mr. mandela going into the hospital. how many times has he been in recently? >> reporter: i was trying to count before we came on air. from what i understand if my calculations are correct it's been four times in the last six months that he's been in hospital for lung infections.

he spent christmas and easter in hospital, both were quite long stays, 18 days and then ten days, so he has very much been on the decline this year. many people close to him say that first hospitalization in december really stuck him back, really hit him hard and he's never really gotten on top of his health in the last six months. many people are keeping a close eye on him. the fact that he's back again of real concern but again we know that the doctors are paying such close attention to him so he's receiving the best medical care and i think that is some soothing became to other people as well, not just his wife and his family. >> certainly mr. mandela turns 95 next month on the 18th i think it is, the 18th of july. robyn curnow thank you so much. so we're going to change gears here, nba finals full gear now, with the heat finding a way to bounce back from thursday's game one loss against the spurs.

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all right, let's do it. >> let's talk some sports. >> did you watch the nba thursday? >> i didn't, did you? >> just seconds on the clock, tony parker sank this game-ending circus shot to put his team up against the defending champs. >> but the miami heat have been here before. rachel nichols sat down with

lebron james and asked him how he expects to keep bouncing back from game one playoff losses. >> one thing about our team and me we get better as the series goes on and figure out ways we can we hate being down 0-1, but we've been able to come back and come back even stronger those next games. >> reporter: you have always been the guy the entire rest of the team is keying on, the opponents keying on. i remember watching new your senior year of high school. it has been that way your whole career so after thousands and thousands of these opportunities and you get to game one of the finals it's that way again. do you ever get the feeling worry about someone else. do you just want to play one of these games where the whole defense isn't built around stopping you? >> it is what it is. i put myself in a position to have that attention and i think it's great that i'm able to draw attention to way from my teammates and put them in a position where they could be successful but you wish you

could go out there and you're not the key guy that everyone looks at, but that's what i'm in and you know, i have to figure out ways i can be great even with that going on. >> reporter: when you played with the spurs in 2007 in the finals the entire game plan was stopping lebron. game one a lot of the game plan was just stop lebron. >> i seen that, they loaded the box, put a lot of people in the paint and dared a lot of our shooters to make shots. that's how we got here. lot of teams put emphasize me not to do what i do and my team i know they'll come up for me again. >> reporter: winning the series would have an affect on lebron's legacy. there's a much more prominent spot in the history books for multiple time champions. no one knows that better than one of the players on the other side, the spurs' tim duncan, has four shiny championship rings and at 37 years old he told me he realizes this is likely his

last shot for another one. he said that is giving him a greater sense of urgency and that no doubt he intends to battle lebron and the heat every inch of the way these next few weeks. pamela, victor? >> rachel, thank you. thanks for starting your morning with us. >> more just ahead on "cnn saturday morning," starting right now. good morning, everyone. i'm pamela brown. >> i'm victor blackwell. 9:00 on the east coast, wake up, everybody, 6:00 out on the west coast. thanks for starting your day with us. we're starting this morning on the west coast in california, where we're still waiting to learn the name of the man who went on a shooting rampage yesterday, this happened in the oceanfront city of santa monica. authorities now say the suspect killed four people including his father and his brother and wounded five others before police killed him. there is one person who is in critical condition.

unfortunately that death toll could go up today. police say the shooting spree started at a home near santa monica college and then spilled onto the campus. it all happened just a short drive, maybe ten minutes from where president obama was holding a fund-raiser. we don't know the shooter's name but police say he's 25 to 35, apparently wore black tactical gear, was armed with pistols and an ar-15 rifle with extra clips. cnn's miguel marquez is in santa monica this morning. miguel we have been with you all morning and we know unfortunately there is that one person who is just holding on this morning. >> reporter: we're not sure they are. police last night said the person who was taken, one of those individuals who was taken to ronald reagan ucla medical center went through surgery and it was a very, very critical condition. there is reporting that person has expired today so it sounds like unfortunately we may hear some bad news a little later

today that that death toll will go up to five. meanwhile, we are getting a better sense of how this investigation is unfolding, and just to give you guys a sense of it, what felt like it took hours to unfold was literally just minutes, less than 15 minutes from the time that house was burned down, two people in there shot, the relatives of the shooter from what we understand to the time they got to the confrontation with the police in the library at santa monica college was less than 15 minutes. along the way, left nine different crime scenes, five to seven different locations in santa monica, where this person shot up the place. i spoke to one within who described the shooter. >> it's terrifying, you know, there was a lot of panic. i realized that i don't really know what to do in this kind of situation, because i instinctively ran and i probably shouldn't have. >> reporter: he never brought the gun down to bear on you even

though you saw him twice and well within range? >> i was well within range. he was dom toward us and the whole time he had the gun close to his chest. the reason it felt so strange is because he was walking down the hallway so casually. he wasn't raging, he wasn't in a chaotic state at all. >> reporter: did he say anything? >> no. >> reporter: absolutely frightening her accounting of this but it is interesting she and other witnesses we spoke to said that he seemed to be looking for specific people because he wasn't bearing down on them. he hijacked a car right outside of that house and directed the woman, kept her in the car to make her drive and directed that woman here to santa monica college. it is not clear what that relationship is yet. we expect more information from police a little later today, hopefully we will get more answers. pamela? victor? back to you guys. >> miguel marquez for us all afternoon and evening and now up with us this morning, thank you.

three american soldiers have been killed in afghanistan and it may be another case of an insider attack we're learning. the soldiers were gunned down in the eastern part of the country in paktia province. someone wearing an afghan army uniform turned his weapon on american soldiers there. these attacks have plagued the forces. back here at home, a pregnant actress in texas accused of mailing ricin laced letters to president owe ba in and mayor michael bloomberg. cnn's national correspondent susan candiotti joins from us new york. susan what is the fbi saying about this woman? >> pamela to hear authorities tell it, this was one troubled marriage and if the charges are true you've got a wife who went to some pretty bizarre lengths to get back at her husband.

her name shannon richardson, also an actress, stage name shannon rodgers and shah ron guess. in court papers the fbi charges her with in effect setting up her husband accusing her of writing and sending letters tainted with ricin to president obama, new york city mayor michael bloomberg and michael glaze in washington. in court papers richardson planted evidence in and around her house for example she also looked up ricin on the computer to create a history, put a tupperware container with ingredients inside that could be made to make ricin and scattered castor beans in the trunk of her husband's car. she allegedly mailed the letters in texas and drove to shreveport, louisiana, and met with the fbi to accuse her husband of sending the ricin letters. the letters read in part, "you will have to kill me and my family before you get my guns. anyone wants to come to my house will get shot in the face. the right to bear arms is my constitutional god-given right and i will exercise that right

'til the day i die." the fbi interviewed her husband, he blamed his wife. so it was he said/she said. she allegedly failed a polygraph and then told the fbi her husband made her do it. now she's in jail and according to the fbi she's pregnant and on thursday her husband filed for a divorce, just a couple of days ago. >> susan candiotti, thank you so much. >> you're welcome. 3,000 years behind bars, 3,000 years, the possible sentence of ariel castro faces, now that he's been slammed with 329 charges, accused of rape, kidnapping and aggravated murder, after holding three women captive police say in his home for a decade. more coming up. ♪ 'cause you make me feel so right ♪ ♪ even if it's so wrong ♪ i wanna scream out loud ♪ boy, but i just bite my tongue ♪ ♪ this one's for the girls messin' with boys ♪ ♪ like he's the melody and she's background noise ♪

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monitoring internet activity from online users overseas amount to modest encroachment on privacy, and those encroachments can help prevent terror attacks. the response on capitol hill this week not partisan politics as usual. listen. >> i'm a verizon customer. it doesn't bother me one bit for the national security administration to have my phone number, because what they're trying to do is find out what terrorist groups we know about and individuals and who the hell they're calling. >> there ought to be a discussion, because the effectiveness of these programs has been trumpeted. i would suggest based on what i know that there are a lot of other reasons that we've thwarted terrorists. >> well that was mark udall a top democratic member of the intelligence committee saying this is an overreach.

but what does this really mean for you? is your private information safe or are you part of the government's data mining? cnn's rene marsh joins us. tell us more about what the president is saying. i think a lot of people were surprised with that you can't have 100% security and 100% privacy. >> that's right, victor, many americans may be wondering if the government is spying in on their phone calls, for example, or even their internet activity, but president obama very clear, he is insisting that that's not happening. >> nobody's listening to the content of people's phone calls. my assessment and my team's assessment was that they help us prevent terrorist attacks. >> all right, but critics say even if the government isn't listening in to conversations, collecting information like phone numbers and locations

could mean problems for innocent americans. i spoke with one critic who said just that. take a listen to her. >> the most dangerous thing that could happen with this information is that you get misidentified as a suspect in a crime or a national security investigation based upon your patterns of behavior rather than anything that you've actually done. >> all right, well companies that turn over customer information under court order may not be happy about it but the law makes it very hard for them to say no. victor? >> rene, what about the internet? the first headline most people saw was verizon. we know now maybe it goes farther than that. what about that program? what's the extent of the communications that are monitored there and what's the government surveillance online? >> well some news reports they did suggest that the government was tapping directly into the servers of major tech companies, and that would essentially make it possible for the government

to intercept things like e-mails, video, files sent online but the administration is insisting that by law, they cannot run that kind of surveillance on american citizens. they say that this program is used exclusively to monitor foreign threats and the tech companies themselves they were quick to deny that they are giving the government unfettered access saying that they only cooperate when a court order is issued. victor? >> we saw the kpds issue that statement. their government has no direct access to our servers, one after another. rene marsh, thank you so much. quick break, we'll be back. ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪ [ male announcer ] just when you thought you had experienced performance, a new ride comes along and changes everything.

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cleveland kidnapping suspect ariel castro has been indicted on 329 charges, meaning he could get upwards of 3,000 years behind bars if convicted on all these charges. >> the former school bus driver is accused of holding amanda berry, gina dejesus and michelle knight in his home for ten years give or take. the indictment describes years of brutal assaults from taping one of the victims to a pole to chaining her to a car with a vacuum cord tied around her neck. one charge accuses the 52-year-old castro of aggravated murder for purposely causing the end of one pregnancy. >> here's a more detailed breakdown of the indictment, 139 counts of rape, 177 counts of kidnapping, seven counts of gross sexual imposition, three counts of felonious assault. >> pamela, you've been covering this story, you've been there several times and we were talking during the break, 329 counts. those will be very difficult individually over a decade to

prove. do you think that the number really is to maybe intimidate the defense team into taking a deal? >> it very well could be the case, victor. i was at that press conference with prosecutor tim mcginty. he made it clear he's going to aggressively go after ariel castro. this reflects, the 329 counts reflects that they want to make sure he's put behind bars and at the very least stays behind bars for the rest of his life and i think that as you said, it might be a way to intimidate him and his attorneys to work out a plea deal and also a way to make sure these victims, these three young women don't have to testify in court. obviously they're still going through a lot, still healing and the hope is they won't have to get on the stand and face castro in person. >> the three women have been staying away from cameras and reporters. is there any way to know their reaction to this? >> as you mentioned i've been to cleveland three times since the women were rescued and speaking

with friends of the victims and families. i spoke to one friend and said it was like a party at the home of one of these victims after the indictment was released. there was a sense of jubilation, of happiness, it's clear that castro will likely be behind bars the rest of his life, at least, and i think it's just a sense of relief. they don't have to worry about castro coming back after him so definitely a sense of happiness with these victims. >> all right, pamela, we will of course continue to follow this. they are veterans and mothers, and many of them don't have a place to call home after having served their country. >> young, black female veterans are particularly at risk for this but this week's cnn hero took it upon herself to battle this troubling problem after once finding herself without a home and without help. meet jasmine booth. >> when americans think of veterans they are only thinking about the men. >> my name is chiquita and i'm an "operation enduring freedom" veteran.

>> my name is sandra and i'm an army veteran. >> women are the forgotten heroes of america. lot of them have fallen on hard times. >> my name is anne marie and i'm a reservist in the air force and i was homeless. >> my name is jasmine booth, captain in the army national guard and it's my mission to get homeless female veterans and their children back on their feet. in 2005 i was called to serve up in iraq during my mobilization, i lost everything in hurricane katrina, and the next month i was diagnosed with aggressive stage two cancer. i was a single mother and 28 at the time. the va didn't have any programs available. when you left you were treated as a baby's mama or a crackhead. it wasn't until i relocated to d.c. that i started to hear about homeless female veterans. that's when i decided to found an organization that would house them and their children. let us know what you need.

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i can do that without having to do shtick. i admire the comics. what they do is really difficult, that's not my path. this is more of an interview show, kind of old school. i grew up watching tom schneider and i love listening to george carlin and public enemy and the clash and i think i can coordinate that within my talk show. >> you've interveed oprah winfrey, hillary clinton, you focus on what drives them, what motivates them so i want to ask you, what drives you? what got you into this business and where does your passion come from? >> i was young when i discovered punk rock and rap, hip-hop. i liked the fact the guys were young and angry and didn't really know what was going on but they could see that the world had a lot of injustice and so they decided to lash out in a creative way. that's what kind of inspired me to care about politics, to clash and pe and bands like that and as i furthered that, i discovered that communication was pretty powerful. it's kind of like the way humans

pollenate, we share ideas and have these connections so we don't feel so alone and i found being in interviews felt like being in conversations and i get the most out of it. and it's probably your experience as well the truth is when i'm on air i forget i'm on air, i think i'm talking to somebody, if people have had a hell of a day and we're keeping them company. my goal is to be good company and if i can get the people beside me to be that as well, i've done my show. martin short and wiz khalifa, betty white, snoop is going to be on the show. the first show plus martin short has been really one of the sweetest guys in my entire career, one of the nicest guys to me. >> you don't forget that. all right last question here for you, george. you've interviewed so many celebrities. who would you love to interview

most that you haven't been able to yet? >> ooh, i'd love to interview bill gates. i think bill gates has changed the world in a gigantic way, him and jeff besos and on the music side all about neil young. it was patti smith, i just interviewed her and now about neil young, the greatest of all-time. >> neil young. george, good luck with everything. >> thanks, good to see you, too. >> catch the all new series "stroumboulopoulos "tomorrow night after the season finale of "ant thee bourdain parts unknown." in 45 minutes i'll talk with a congressman about sarah murnaghan's fight to breathe, her family wrestling red tape. sarah's condition is worsening and she needs help now. plus more on the santa monica shooting rampage live from california. thank you for watching today. i'll see you back here at the

top of the hour. >> stay with us here on cnn. "your money" starts right now. 175,000 jobs created in may, the unemployment rate ticks up to 7.6%. those are the headlines but there are numbers you don't see every month and you need to pay attention to them. i'm christine romans. this is "your money." the most important number of all is your unemployment rate. it's either 0% or 100%. either you have a job or you don't but outside your personal statistic here's what's going on in the labor market, over the past 12 months the economy created 2.1 million jobs, an average of 176,000 a month. good, but not good enough to push down the unemployment rate meaningfully. the unemployment rate ticked up a little bit to 7.6% in recent months but the underemployment rate is much higher, 13.8%. that number includes all americans looking for work plus those working part-time but want to be working full time