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wildfires tonight burning out of control, a string of tornados hammering the midwest, and it could get worse very soon. people are in the path of a storm like this one, a derecho. hurricane level damage for mile after mile. we're watching it very closely. later, he came to court in handcuffs, but what happens to the three women that ariel castro is accused of keeping. americans are facing a weather system called a derecho.
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the winds are making it tough for firefighters out west. >> let's back you up to june of last year. this was the classic derecho that we've seen basically in our lifetime. this was a big one. this one came all the way out of chicago, about the same area that this one could have come out of. so far, we're waiting for this line up of storms. see this is 2:00 in the afternoon on that day, by 4:00, 5:00, we already had winds of 81 miles per hour along that line. think of this like a wind bulldozer, the storm is moving 40, 50 miles an hour. and wind gusts in those storms 30, 40 miles an hour on top of that. trees were down for miles, 50 miles, 100 miles wide. and trees were knocked down everywhere in that direction. what do we have tonight? not this just yet. we don't have that line up for
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weather. what we do have is a little bit of a line. but it's more of an east/west. the severe storm prediction center saying they're not so confident right now that this derecho is going to happen. what i'm confident with is that these storms are going to fire all night long. we're going to have thunder and lightning and some tornado warnings all night tonight. they will slide on down south of chicago to ft. wayne to columbus into west virginia. and maybe even hang on all night all the way into washington, d.c. half of you will see something within 50 miles of some damage up here, chicago to columbus. and the possible damage is all the way down to the tidewater. these storms are going to eventually continue to run in the same direction. something else i'm more worried about is a little bit of flooding. so a lot of rain coming down in
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so many areas. what they really would love to have is some rain in colorado. the pictures we see across colorado of these wildfires have just been horrible. our victor blackwell is out there. this has been a day where winds were 20, 30 miles an hour. those fires are going to be out of control one more time. we're going to check in with victor black well later tonight. new revelations from edward snowden. telling a hong kong newspaper, the agency's been hacking into computers in long kong and on the chinese mainland for years. they gained access to the backbones of the internet. it doesn't have to break into individual machines. he'll stay in hong kong and fight extradition until in his words, he's told to leave. he has faith in hong kong's rule
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of law. he lives in constant fear of his and his family's safety. last night, peter king made news, not by calling him a traitor, which other colleagues on both sides of the aisle have done, but for something else he said. >> as far as as reporters who helped reveal these programs, do you believe something should happen to them? should they be punished as well? >> if they knew, i think action should be taken. i know the whole issue of leaks has been gone into over the past month, but something on this magnitude there is an obligation, but also legal, i believe, against a reporter disclosing something which would so severely compromise national security. as a practical matter, i guess there have been in the past several years a number of reporters who have been prosecuted under it. so the answer is yes to your question. >> now later today on fox news he went even further when he was
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talking to megan kelly. he said glen greenwald who writes for the guardian should be prosecuted because he threatened to reveal the identities of cia agents and other personnel operating around the world. we've researched this. we've found no evidence that greenwald has ever said that. and in fact, we're going to talk to glen greenwald right now from the guardian. >> so glen, congressman king is saying you were threatening to disclose names of cia agents and others around the world and that that's a reason you should be prosecuted. i haven't seen any quote where you have said this. just for the record, have you or are you threatening to disclose the names of cia agents and officers around the world? >> yeah, the reason you haven't found that, anderson, is because it doesn't exist. i was really staggered that a
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united states congressman, the chairman of the house home land security committee could go on television and make up a ak cue cation, literally fabricated out of whole cloth, that i have threatened to uncover the names of covert ciaing as as a way of arguing for my arrest and prosecution inside the united states for the crime of doing journalism. it's bad enough to call for that. it's extraordinarily menacing that he did so based upon a complete falsehood, the idea that i threatened that. i haven't ever and nor would i ever. >> snowden said i had access to the full rosters of everyone working at the nsa. of said we're going to have a lot more significant revelations that have not been heard over the next several weeks and months, but again, that's not
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saying anything about what peter king has said. are any of the revelations that may be coming, that you may release, are any of them the identities of cia personnel or agents in the field? >> no. and when mr. snowden said what it is that you quoted him as saying, he was doing so in the context of answering the accusation which i had asked him about, that he was trying to harm national security. and his point was look, if my goal were to harm national security or endanger americans, there are all kinds of things that i could have done that i did not do and would never do. >> do you think king is making that up? or do you think he's mistaken? >> i, the last thing i would try and do is read the mind of and what goes on internally in the swamp of peter king's brain. what i do know is he has a history of all kinds of radical and extremist statements. i don't know if he simply decided to completely make that
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up or if he hallucinated or what. but what i do know is that the claims that he made on national television about me were utterly and completely false, and they were very serious charges that i think he ought to be held accountable for. you can't just go on television and call for the arrest and prosecution of a journalist and tell outright falsehoods. >> we've contacted his office today and have not heard back. he also said you should be prosecuted because of what you've already published, saying it puts american lives at risk. do you brief that at all? when wikileaks released information, they said they had blood on their hands, but then u.s. officials privately admitted to people in congress and even publicly that even though the revelations were embarrassing, were a problem, that they couldn't name anyone who had really lost their lives because of it. so now, when people are saying
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you have put american lives at risk, do you brief that at all? >> no. and that point you just made, in my opinion, is really the crucial point for anybody listening to take away. every single time the american government has things that they've done in secret, exposed or revealed to the world and they're embarrassed by it, the tactic that they use is to try and scare people into believing that they have to overlook what they've done. they have to trust american officials to exercise power in the dark les they be attacked. that their secure and safety depend upon pacing this value in political officials. and i really think it's the supreme obligation of every journalist and every citizen when they hear an american official say this story jeopardizes american security, they should ask for specifics. if you look at the stories we reported we were very careful never to disclose anything that could conceivably harm national security. >> the flip side of that is what do you say to those who say the
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government does need to be abe to act in secret at certain times. and there are legitimate reasons. there are people who want to attack this country. >> yeah. nobody doubts that, that the government has the right to keep some secrets, and we are keeping some secrets. we're not disclosing the technical means by which the nsa spies on people. we're not disclosing the names of people at whom they were directed. but what they don't have the right is to have policies that affect us with no accountability. >> they said that the nsa had been hacking computers in asia for a long time. the paper said it couldn't independently verify them. does that line up with what he told you or can you say? >> yeah, he was very clear about as the u.s. goes around the world threatening and warning people about the dangers of
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cyberattacks that the u.s. is one of the most prolific if not the most prolific of cyber warfare. we published the drebtive signed in october that lays forth a very aggressive tactic of when they will use it. it as china that the u.s. has directed those accusations at most. and yit the oust is a very active in hacking into chinese research facilities, university, businesses and ones in hong kong as well. >> glen greenwald, i appreciate talking to you. thank u let's dig deeper into this. john, you saw what snowden said in that interview, does the u.s. government really have any idea where he is at this point? >> i think they have a pretty good idea where he is. this is the kind of thing that not yesterday or the day before, but at the very beginning of this fbi headquarters would have likely called the fbi legal
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attack yay office. they would have called their counsel term parts and said hey, could you acquire this guy. maning, could you put eyes on, could we have an idea where he is, and please keep eyes on while we put together some charge that might fit within your extradition treaty. >> how concerned do you think the u.s. should be that he can share what he knows with the chinese? >> i think very concerned on some level. number one, hong kong is attached to mainland china. they have a semi autonomous government, but semi. they have an extradition deal with the united states, but this is the kind of thing that would be of high interest to the people's republic of china. and here's an individual who's feeling vul ner be, who's looking for asylum, and who has a bag full of secrets and a head full of some more. so between the chinese, the russians, any number of places
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might want to talk to him and offer him comfort. >> snowden is accused in the u.s. of hacking the chinese. the stais state department says there's a difference between what china is doing to the u.s. and what they say the u.s. is doing to china, which is sur vailance and going after bad guys. does that wash with you? >> yeah. all governments hack at all other governments. that's what spy agencies do. they spy. but the chinese is the only government, to my knowledge, that believes it is permissible not to, you know, the u.s., for the chinese, the people's republic of china hacking into u.s. defense websites and infrastructure, china's the only place that thinks it's okay to hack into commercial enterprises for commercial gain. in other words they will hack
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into all the other things that other people are hacking into. but they will hack into corporate america, steal trade secrets, steal research that's half done. steal completed projects, patented things. china just takes the general posture when it come does cyber thievery that we don't have time to invent all these things. it's better to take them off of somebody's servers. that's a dirty little secret, but everybody who's in the cyber world knows that. and we've seen it in some of the reports from the government and from private people who look at computers. >> over the years people in intelligence say that the amount of spying that china does on the u.s. would surprise a lot of people. >> oh, anderson, there is a building that's filled with hundreds of people's liberation army, the pla seeker experts. they work seven days a week, 24 hours a day. some of them are assigned to hack into government databases. some of them are assigned to hack into commercial things. some of them are assigned to
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hack into universities. that is a full time job there. >> i want to switch gears to a different story. >> what we found was there was an inspector general's assessment of dss. that's the people who are, provide the security details for the secretary of state and ambassadors overseas, but they also do criminal investigations, but they also investigate wrongdoing among state department employees. and basically the inspector general found that there were a number of agents that they interviewed who said well, my investigations go fine until they tart to go towards scandal. and then they're either interfered with or cut off. so we found accounts from dss agents who said i couldn't interview the two main people. i was told i only had three days to do the investigation, which
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was absurd, it would have required than that. one said i was assigned to investigate this ambassador overseas. and then i got an order to cease and desist and take what i had so far and put it in a memo. so they put that in a memorandum and then in a draft of the report. but in the final report that was published, not much of that was in there. >> so what happens now? >> what happens now is that the inspector general has said let's review these cases. and they've brought in -- to answer the state department's concern, which is these are inspectors who were doing basically a management assessment on whether a division is running right. they can't really assess whether a criminal investigation is going correctly. so they've brought in professional criminal investigators from othering asys and they've said review these cases and a few more and give us an assessment, was there undue influence, was there interference? was there tampering? were things squashed or swept
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under the rug? >> fascinating story. thanks. we're going to take a quick break. let me know what you think about what congressman king said. sarah has what she has fought so hard to get. plus the growing wildfires in colorado.
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welcome back. we have more breaking news to report tonight. sarah murnaghan has new lungs. her transplant surgeons have completed the operation. her parents challenged a policy that makes it possible for children to get lungs. last week a judge intervened and sarah was put on the adult waiting list. when sarah heard about the ruling, she cheered. listen. >> whoo! whoo! whoo! >> it has been a very tough battle for this little girl. she has cystic fibrosis. her condition declined sharply, got worse over the weekend.
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the call they waited for so long finally came. >> you're outside the hospital where sarah just got out of surgery. what do we know about how things went? >> her mother and father have seen her. and she seems to be doing remarkably well. she is in good condition. she's heavily sedated. she's heavily intubated. the surgery lasted about six hours. and we're told through a family spokesperson that doctors had no special challenges in resizing the lung to fit into sarah's chest. and just before we went to air we got a statement from the family. it says sarah is in the process of getting settled in the icu. and now her recovery begins. it will be a long road, but we're not going for easy. we're going for possible. and an organ donor has made this possible for her. obviously, she still has a long road ahead of her. there's always the risk of infection and the organ being
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rejected, but she took a very major step today. >> so you spoke to the family before the surgery, correct? >> yes. and as you can imagine, at that point, their emotions were sort of all over the place. you know, they had found out last night that the donor had come in. and when once sarah was in surgery, i asked if we could speak just a little bit about what they were feeling. and the one point they wanted to make was about the person who made this day possible. >> they don't tell you anything, i mean, but that donor's her hero, our hero of this story. but she wouldn't have had access to that hero if it weren't for the change. this is a low bar transplant. this is lungs that she wouldn't have had the opportunity to have access to just two weeks ago. >> and the other point she wanted to make was not just this person was a hero, but they're hoping that there will be a change for the system to help children not just sarah, but the
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other child, the 11 year old, who's also waiting for a lung transplant and other children as well now that there's been a change to the national policy. >> jason, appreciate that. we certainly wish sarah and her family the best. she was a very sick little girl going into the surgery. our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta joins us. how difficult of a surgery is that? and how difficult is the recovery? >> well, the operation, it can depend. as you just heard from her mom there, this was what's known as an lobar transplant. this is because of a size issue. you take particular parts of the lung. that operation went smoothly. that's pretty typical in the terms of the length of these operations. it sounds like that one's
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straightforward. her recovery, she's going to have the breathing tube in. over the longer run, remember this is a girl who still has cystic fibrosis, just underwent this big operation, is now going to need medications to suppress her immune system so she doesn't reject her lungs in the future. so there's several phases to her recovery. >> is it true that she'll require another transplant in the future since adult lungs will not grow as she grows? >> the bigger concern here is more the concern about rejection. that is what might be necessitating a future transplant. sometimes even these lungs, even though it's just the lobe of the lung, they can expand to a certain extent. remember not too long ago we were talking about the new pope, and now he is living without a lobe of his lung. so it is possible that people can live with a smaller lung, but the larger concern for sarah is the rejection of the lungs. >> can you explain why there are
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different lists? is there a good reason behind that? >> well, i think a lot of this is, you know, ideally what you're trying to do is create situations where the people who need the transplants the most are also matched up with people who are requesting to benefit the most from those transplants. that may sound rather obvious. but it's not always going to say the sickest people in general, it's the people who are going to benefit the most. when it comes to kids and lung transplants, they don't happen that often. a couple hundred over the last several years. below 12, i think there's not enough data for people under the age of 12. >> appreciate it. thanks. we wish sarah and her family the best. you can find more about her story on our website. fire plus winds equals a state of emergency. one fire is growing larger,
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more breaking news now. several wild fires burns in colorado. two not far from colorado springs. one of them has burned down close to a hundred homes. colorado's governor declared a disaster emergency. the evacuation zone is growing. and the winds have not stopped gusting. what is the latest, victor? >> caller: the latest from the sheriff here in el paso county is that the number of homes damaged up to 97. 92 of them a total loss and 8,000 acres burned. we just got an updated number about this mandatory evacuation.
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now 10,000 people impacted by that. 150 commercial entities. and i want to show you what we've been seeing all day. this cloud of white, grayish ash. but occasionally we'll see puffs of dark smoke, meaning something else, something unnatural is burning, many of them homes. many of the people who have been evacuated are in red cross shelters or hotels. it's very difficult to get a room. or they are with friends and family. >> and i know, as you said, more evacuations. even a prison was evacuated, right? >> caller: yeah, a prison was evacuated. but we have to start this with telling you that there are five fires here in colorado. this is the black forest fire. there are three to the north and one about 55 miles southwest in canyon city. that is the royal gorge fire. and there is a corrections
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facility near that. as a precaution, they evacuated the prison. they were sent to other facilities overnight. all of them safe. >> and the firefighters, do they have enough personnel on the ground? >> caller: well, the exact number we're getting from the sheriff, 487, but there are more people coming throughout the week. also we know nearby pilots from ft. carson are working on this and the national guard here working in a support role, blocking roads. there are a lot of people driving around trying to get photographs or to check on their hopes to find out if their home is still standing. >> incredible to see that home burn right there. stay safe. there's a lot more happening tonight. anderson, the bolger trial got started in boston. the lengthen dairy mob because
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and an australian woman's attempt to be the first person to swim without a shark cage is over. she ended the trip after a jellyfish sting. accused kidnapper and rapist ariel castro was back in court today. and what happened at his arraign. ? we'll tell you ahead. plus we're going to talk to a therapist who helped jaycee dugard. ♪ they haul everything, safely and on time. ♪ tracks! they connect the factories built along the lines. and that means jobs, lots of people, making lots and lots of things. let's get your business rolling now, everybody sing. ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪ ♪ helping this big country move ahead as one ♪ ♪ norfolk southern how's that function? ♪
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hey, welcome back. ariel castro was arraigned today in a courtroom. castro was indicted last week on 329 counts. and today the attorneys said some of the charges can't be disputed. he's accused of rain, murder, kidnapping. one of the victims made a break and ran to a neighbor for help. what exactly was it like in the court today. he didn't say anything. how did he appear? >> he walked in, looked derespondent, devoid of emotion. he kept his head down. he didn't make eye contact with anyone, not the judge, not his attorneys. it appeared he had his eyes
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closed during the entire arraign. . his attorneys entered a plea on his behalf. and as you said, he didn't say anything at all. it was a very quick arraignment. it only lasted about a minute. >> you did speak to the victims' personal attorney. what did he tell you? >> i did. i just spoke to him a little bit ago. jim wooly is his name. and he said the women want this to be over, and they want it to be over quickly. they have no desire to testify in a trial. and he said at this point, no one wants this to go to trial. the ball is in the prosecution's court. pressure is mounting on the prosecution to negotiate a plea deal and essentially take that aggravated murder charge and obviously the death penalty off the dabt so a deal can be negotiationed. >> so they're saying a plea deal would be acceptable to his clients. >> absolutely. the attorney made it clear that
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the women's attorney made it clear that he wants a plea deal to be reached. and today, the defense attorney for ariel castro made it clear that he wants a plea deal to be negotiated. so i said, the ball really is in the prosecution's court. and the prosecution also has a vested interest for a deal to be reached. prosecution wants what's best for the victims. but it's a balancing act. they want to make sure justice is served. and that ariel castro faces a maximum penalty. it will be difficult for the prosecution to pursue the death penalty for the aggravated murder chash. there's really no legal precedent here. and also the prosecution has to have both forensic and medical evidence to show that not only michelle knight was pregnant in that time frame but also that castro caused the termination of hear pregnancy, and that's a pretty tall order there. >> it's impossible for us to
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imagine what they went through and are going through trying to reclaim their lives. jaycee knows as well. she was kidnapped when she was 11 years old, held for 18 years. she gave birth to two kids. she was rescued in 2009. today she's in her 30s. and she's helping others through the foundation that she's created. her therapist guide her, helped her reconnect with her family. helped her rebuild her life. she's the author of safe kids, smart parents. i'm very pleased that she joins me here. thanks very much for being with us. i talked to shawn hornbeck, someone who was taken as a child. and a short time after these women were released. one of the things that he said is this is something that happened to him, it's not who he is. and he does not want to be defined by what somebody else did to him. is that something you hear a lot
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interest victims in. >> absolutely. it and it's such a healthy response. because it's time, for example, these young women. i don't want to speculate too much on what their situation, but they've given enough time to that man. and it's time for them to be able to move forward, so yes. yes. absolutely. >> how do you -- and, again, i'm not a big fan of speculation either, but in general, how do you help somebody move forward? the process of trusting, of reintegrating with the family. i mean, there's so many ditch aspects. >> so many of the responses to that sound so simplistic, because it really is one step at a time. one step at a time slowly. allow them to guide you in the process. we know from the department of justice study that the national center did with them back in 1991 that there's such a variety of what families need. there's some givens, including privacy, like these families are getting.
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but step at a time. >> there's also, i mean, the range of emotions that somebody goes through. i mean, anger to i would imagine anger to certainly their captor, but also to their families maybe in some cases. is talking about -- i've seen different studies. some people say talking about something can help it. but there's others who say it relives the trauma. should families hold back and let the person talk on their own time in. >> it's sort of a two fold answer. one, is, one of the ways that we work with people is using animal therapy with the program that i have. because. >> horses and -- >> horses and dogs and, because part of it is being able to get people out of the words, out of the -- some people do need to talk about it. some people don't. but the most important thing you also said was about families and the individual difference. and every time i talk, i always want to bring it back to the
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siblings, because the siblings in these families are affected as much as the central victim. in very, very different ways. so i love that you're acknowledging the range of differences. so we need to, we really need to keep that in mind when we're looking. because i don't know all the parties in the families of these victims. but i know that they've all been affected and will have different responses from each other. >> and yet it is incredible to me, and i've seen this time and time again, about what people can survive and what they can rebuild a hive from. >> and that's why i'm out here doing this. this is why i wrote this book with my sister, based on the incredible strength that terry proben and jaycee dugard demonstrated and so that it never, ever happened again. but i am so on the bandwagon of resiliency and flexibility and encouraging people to teach their children to be flexible and resill gent. >> you can teach resiliency?
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>> absolutely. there are some studies talking about there being a gene. there's a man who's done a lot of studies on the ability to being able to help develop that in people. you've got to listen to the individual differences of the people in front of you. and the needs. when you work with any sort of trauma. >> i know you've probably been asked this a million times, and it's a question that always gets asked. and i've heard a lot of answers to it. and people don't understand it. what makes somebody stay in a situation that maybe they have an opportunity at times to get out of? i mean, what is it? >> that's another, i mean, you're hitting questions true to my heart. and we have, the press has called it stockholm syndrome. there are variables that you often see across the board. i think frankly there's about four or five that frequently show up.
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we like to, and when i say we, those of us that work in the trenches with these guys, like to call it adaptation process. because you adapt to survive. and the human spirit is incredibly strong. and the human will to, and i get so passionate, so excuse me. the human will to live and go through an adverse situation is such an incredible, incredible, innate -- >> something we see in the holocaust. it's a desire to survive. >> and when you talk to jaycee who has taught me this one thing of, she, when we talk about her story and she'll say yeah, what about the prisoner of war or what about nelson mandela. it's true. you have to adapt. it's incredibly condescending to assume that these people fall in love with their captors. in fact, it's one of the most conde sending thing that you can
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do. >> to me, that's an important thing, the idea that you can survive pretty much anything given the right circumstances, given the right makeup. and that's an empowering thing. >> and that's what this book, safe kids, smart parents. what we're trying to ais when something horrible like a nonfamilial abduction happens, which is rare, but teaching your kids how to dole with all sorts of situations such as icky coaches. give them the skills to give them problem solving. to get out of a situation. >> thank you. appreciate it. coming up, a follow on the pennsylvania mom who disappeared, leaving her family behind. she resurfaced in florida a few months ago. an update on what's happening with her next. my mantra?
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jeff flake has apologized for his son's behavior online. his son posted racist, homophobic posts. the u.s. is easing sanctions. approval can be sought to provide certain items, such as water. meanwhile, an activist's brother was released from prison. a 360 follow. bren br she hitchhiked to florida with
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time now for the ridiculous. so the other night on 360 we told you how the actor who plays
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chew baca was delayed because of his cane. we were telling the story and then this happened. >> the unusual weight of cane got attention. but they were cleared to travel within 5 minutes. i always wanted a light saver. [ mmmmm ] >> hers was the worst imitation ever. here's what he actually sounds like. pitiful. i think mine was a little more realistic. it's lame.
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i would have said that it's lacking because of her british accept. but the actor who plays him was actually born in england. he and his wife were on cnn's starting point talking about the airport incident. >> i'm a big guy. therefore, i need a heavy cane. >> you do know you just told chewbaca he can't have his light safer cane, at which point her eyes got a little bit. if the wooky arefrives in a fou mood nobody's going to be happy. >> they left everyone with a nice message. >> may they all travel in peace and wookys. >> leave it to the master. that is the sound of the real
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chewbaca. just for laughs, let's hear isha again. that's it the man who leaked information about the nsa's surveillance program says he did it to safe guard privacy and liberty. today the director of that agency testified that that program foiled dozens of terrorist attacks. question we are asking tonight is the tradeoff worth it to americans. pope francis seems to admit there is a gay lobby working within the vatican. does he see it as a threat. and her family fought the system and won. a young girl gets the lung that could save her life. let's go "outfront." ♪ good to be with you.