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brendan crick hit him, and he was allowed to return to play, and that is an icy glare. make sure to follow our show on twitter at theleadcnn, and that is all today. i'm john berman sitting in for jake tapper, and happy father's day, everyone. i turn you over to the able hands of jessica yellin in "the hands of jessica yellin in "the situation room." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com happening now, he has been slammed by republicans for praising president obama, and now chris christie skips a conservative gathering to take the stage with another top democrat, bill clinton. we will go there live. one moment they were cheering the miami heat at a waterside bar, but the next moment, this loaded dock collapsed throwing 100 people into the water. now we have new video of the terror and the chaos. and the white house says it will provide military support to syria's rebels. i've just learned some new details about that aid.
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wolf blitzer is off today. i'm jessica yellin. you are in "the situation room." the biggest names expected to run in 2016 are in the spotlight tonight. all for a very different reason. hillary clinton tells us where she is headed and what she is doi doing. she's ending her break to return to the domestic issue that first defined her career, early childhood education. jeb bush sticks his foot in it on immigration. marco rubio tilts to the right, potentially at the cost of his center. and right now, chris christie prepares to show up with bill clinton. that is the second big democrat that he is cozying up to in a month. and by the way, he is passing up a big conservative gathering to do it. we will get more now from cnn's erin mcpike at the gathering with chris christie and bill clinton. and erin, are they due to take
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the stage? i think that it is supposed to happen at any minute. >> that is right, jessica. any minute, we are watching to see when that will happen, but what we would love to see, of course, is chris christie on the stage with hillary clinton and can't say whether that is going to be happening. we know that hillary clinton has been backstage with chelsea clinton all day, but it should be interesting, because they will be talking about leadership and collaboration, and chris christie is talking about collaborating with another democrat, and that is bill clinton, and of course, he could be facing off against hillary clinton in 2016, and so it should be an interesting picture on the stage in a few minutes, jessica. >> all right. this is an all-star gathering happening in chicago. we have an all-star gathering of our own right here in "the situation room." you like the segue? okay. all right. bringing in people who need no introduction, and cnn's national chief correspondent john king, and cnn political correspondent candy crowley. so chris christie and former
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president bill clinton, opposite side of the political spectrum and similar political personalities, but john, you know, that chris christie took all of the flack for hanging out with president obama and hugging a democrat, and why do you believe he is doing that? >> you are reading it backwards. bill clinton is a moderate democrat, so he is slowly going back to the conservatives. look, chris christie wants to do it how he does and he does not care if he is yelled at and criticized because if he wants to be the president, he has to go so faith and freedom forum, and he cannot skip those vents. and people are aware that he is on a ballot in a new jersey state, and being on stage with the clintons will help you. >> it is like service the show in front of you and worry about the next one. he wants to run up the score in new jersey as the governor.
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>> we know he will win in new jersey, and we know that. >> well, he wants to run up the score and he wants a big victory, and we know that, and the fact that you know, and john, as we all know, when it gets to the primary, we will have a discussion, will he goes for the candidate who is the most conservative or the one who can win and pull over those independent voters. >> so political basically? >> yes. >> and let's play this sound bite, because former governor jeb bush did go to the faith and freedom coalition that chris christie blew off and listen to how he stuck his foot in it. >> immigrants create far more businesses than native-born americans over the last 20 years. immigrants are more fertile, and they love families and they have more intact families and they bring a younger population. >> okay. that was hugely and delicate that immigrants are more fertile and not well phrased, but candy, on the policy substance, he had a meaningful point to make. >> yes, the point is that the
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whites have a negative and non-whites have a negative birthrate which means that non-hispanic whites are dying faster than they are birthed. so you have to people to fuel the economy and the point he is making is that we need immigration, because the economy has to move. and he pointed out who was starting businesses, who was having babies, and it is a -- >> more immigrants and more hispanics are giving birth at a higher rate. population is also growing at a faster rate than the his ppanic community, so his point just was that we need, and that the future of this economy lies with immigration. those who are here already -- >> and john, ready to run in the twitter age? you can't say things like that and survive as a kand candidate. >> well, just like chris christie, and jeb bush is the former governor and i just had a conversation with him, and i said people are taking shots at
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you and he said, isn't it true that immigrants have a higher fertility rate, and have a good weekend. >> but it is a crucial misstatement, because saying they are more fertile. >> well, if you go on the website and talk about the census bureau, it is fertility and i understand it, but, yes, the most you can say is that the clumsy wording, and that when republicans who are the republican party and not jeb bush, but when the republican party is seen as anti-immigrant, as unfriendly to people who are not old white men, you have to be careful what you say. that is why he is taking the heat. >> okay. somebody else who made news today, florida senator marco rubio. he made the point that -- well, he said, you know, he is for immigration reform, and we know this, but he is against gay marriage, and he has also said that if there is a gay amendment to the immigration bill allowing immigrants who have gay partners
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to come into the u.s., he is not going to be for that, and he also does not think that there should be special laws allowing, letting gay couples have rights, special rights. >> and the supreme court may take it out of his hands, and he won't have the argue it anymore, and that is honestly on the democratic and the republican side they are waiting for the doma ruling which will then say, hey, you know, federal benefits have to be given to those where it is, where marriage is recognized and that is a federal law. >> and smart position for him though? he is to the center on immigration, but moving to the right on gay issues? >> well, that is his position, number one, and number two, he has alienated the conservative base for the path of immigration bill, and he is trying to say to the conservatives that this is where i am on this issue, and the policy here. and this is not a test of mar eco rubio, because the conservatives have been voting against the group of eight which he is in, and they have been
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voting against the amendments they have in practice, because in full, they want to doom the bill so now will the democrats join marco rubio and kill senator leahy's bill. >> and leahy knows that, and that is why they are all hoping that the supreme court helps them out. >> we are all waiting for that supreme court decision. >> wacky game of chess about this bill. it is a train that might leave the station, so everybody wants a cause and proposal to want this, this, this. >> and he says it is not illegal to fire someone because they are gay. is that out of the mainstream? >> that is about the employment nondiscrimination act which has been written, and been around since 1990-something or another, and has only had two votes, i think. it never gets out of capitol hill. and maybe it is something that the time has come, but remains 34 states where it is legal to fire someone who is gay or
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lesbian or transgendered and this would stop that. when i read the transcript of this, and i'm not altogether sure that he knew where it was going. sometimes you read the transcripts and you think, maybe he didn't know where this was. >> connecting the dots. >> i think that he is against it, but i am not sure he totally got what he was talking about. >> well, we are standing by to see bill clinton and chris christie taking the stage and we will check in that when it happens and see if they talk about 2016 or their mutual diet plan, because they are now obsessed with the diet. so thanks to both of you for being on and talking politics. and coming up next, new details on the type of military aid that the u.s. plans to give syrian rebels, but is it enough to make a difference? and scary video of a collapse that threw a hundred restaurant customers into florida's biscayne bay. [ male announcer ] this is bob,
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i'm learning new development s now about the obama administration's plans to help rebels in syria. now that the white house has declared the assad regime has crossed the president's red line by using chemical weapons. officials tell me that the u.s. plans to provide small arms, ammunition, and anti-tank weapons to the syrian rebels. the administration is not spelling out details, because it is all done in secret as part of a covert operation run through the cia. so what is the white house saying about this effort? let's turn now to cnn white house correspondent dan lothian. hi, dan. you have more reporting from the white house, though i know they are being tight-lipped. >> they are being tight-lipped, but the objective according to the white house is to make the opposition as strong as possible inside of syria to improve the capabilities, but also to put more pressure on president assad to step aside. >> reporter: the internal debate on the administration's response has not always been unanimous,
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and multiple sources tell cnn that the president and national security advisory tom donnel lynn favored a more cautious approach. secretary of state john kerry and incoming national security adviser susan rice asked for more intervention. the push is by the evidence that chemical use has been used. >> what he is doing is a half step, committing the u.s., and the u.s. prestige, but it won't change the balance of power there. >> reporter: but the white house is insistent that it will not only help the rebels, but put more pressure on assad. aids say that it is more difficult and costly and dangerous because of the defense system. but republican senator john mccain insists it is not going to mean anything unless we take the lead. >> and to establish a safe zone, it will not change the favorable
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conditions on the battlefield for bashar al assad. >> and while many options remain on the table, boot s ts on the ground is not one of them. >> we don't think it is in the national interests to introduce u.s. troops. >> now, the white house aides have been the ones who have been briefing the reporters over the last couple of days, but senator john mccain and others have been asking why the president, himself, has not come out and explained the actions to the american people, an jud just li he did in libya and the white house top aide ben rhodes said that the president over the next several days will have several opportunities to do that as he heads to the g-8 in germany. >> we will look for that, because it is bizarre that the president was speaking publicly at the same time that the white house was privately briefing reporters about crossing the red line. curious, dan, now that the administration has made this late decision to provide new aid to syrian rebels, are they able to get the support to the rebels in time to make a difference?
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>> well, that is such a good question, because even the white house will admit there are hiccups in trying to get other supplies to rebels, but they believe that over the last several months and six months in fact that the pipeline is much better, and now they are saying that they are quite confident that this type of military assistance can get to the rebels in time. >> okay. we will see. thanks so much, dan. dan lothian reporting from the white house. coming up now, new concerns that the faa leaker could defect to china or another country, and why officials here are worried. and then new video of the dock collapse at a bayside restaurant in florida sending 100 customers to the plunging to the water.
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attorney general eric holder today called the leaks about u.s. surveillance programs extremely damaging and vowed that the leaker will be held accountable. ho holder is meeting counterparts in europe where concerns are being raised about the u.s. snooping. back home, there are fresh concerns that the nsa's leaker eric snowden could defect to china which comes after he told a hong kong newspaper he will fight extradition attempts. brian todd is here with the latest. what are you learning? >> well, jessica, given the information he gave to the "guardian" about u.s. monitoring and other classified information he says he had access to and the fact that his exact whereabouts are mystery, there is growing concern that eric snowden may fall into a rival's hands.
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>> reporter: top u.s. officials are now openly worried will eric snowden defect? >> does he have a relationship with a foreign government and more to the story? >> of course, a thorough scrub of what his china connections are. >> reporter: a former nsa official and the former cia officer told me that the chinese government has likely at least made contact with eric snowden and one analyst says over the past few days, it is looking more and more like someone is shaping his behavior and possibly the "guardian" newspaper and maybe the chinese. and what kind of information does he have? to hear him brag about it to the "guardian" besides the telephone surveillance monitoring programs -- >> i had access to the entire roster and undercover agencies, and the assets and the stations and the missions and what they are and so forth. >> reporter: u.s. officials say they doubt he has all of that information, because snowden said that the intent is not the
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harm the u.s., but the former cc cia officer albert bear says he is closely being watched. >> we cannot hide in hong kong, and they have chinese sources riddled with cooperative police and everybody, and it is impossible to hide in hong kong. >> and baer says because of that, they would have to have some other method if they wanted to. and snowden said that the u.s. has been hacking into computers in china for years. and if he were to defect, what would the chinese want most of him? >> what the chinese don't know is where we have been successfulf, and whose phone and computer has been hacked. they don't know that, and so if he can tell them places, specific places that have been hacked, they can go and close off the source. >> reporter: we called and e-mail
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e-mailed the chinese embassy in washington asking if the government has made contact with snowden and if he wanted asylum and would they grant it, but they did not respond. so u.s. officials in washington are monitoring the situation and trying to figure out where eric snowden is and of course, monitoring the systems that he might have knowledge of that the u.s. may have hacked into in china and what military officials hay may have targeted in china, and if he gives it to the chinese, jessica. >> i love that you e-mailed the chinese embassy, and i'm sure they didn't respond, but the d.o.j. and the nsa monitored it. eric holder or something. and how about the other u.s. rivals any reason to believe that he would go the iran or russia or they would accept him if he tried? >> well, that is a concern, because everybody wants the hands on this guy, and an iranian official said it is ridiculous and not worth an answer, but that is what they are saying, however, an official at the russian embassy reiterated what vladimire putin said, if he wanted asylum in
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russia, they would take him, because if you want to come here, we will take your information. >> and a lot of people want their hands on him. okay. thank you, brian todd. coming up, chelsea clinton is in the spotlight with her parents, and she sits down with the newest member of our cnn family, michaela pereira, and also, we have new video of the terrifying moments of the dock that collapsed in florida throwing 100 people into the bay. ly different. i met a turtle friend today so, you don't get that very often. it seemed like it was more than happy to have us in his home. so beautiful. avo: more travel. more options. more personal. whatever you're looking for expedia has more ways to help you find yours.
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media mogul rupert murdoch and his divorce. wolf blitzer is off today, i'm jessica yellin, and this is "the situation room." >> a pool and chairs is pretty much all that is left of a florida restaurant bar deck after it collapsed plunging 100 miami heat fans into the bay. dozens had to be treated and three of whom were critically injured. john zarrella has the latest. >> reporter: the cell phone video is dark. it was taken seconds after the deck at shucker's bar and grill collapsed into miami's biscayne bay. there is urgency. >> back up, please! >> reporter: flashlights scanning the water looking for victims and partially submerged tables and chairs and looking for anybody buried under the debris. it is just before 10:00 p.m. and
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the deck was filled to watch the hometown miami heat in game four of the nba championship. suddenly, no warning and the deck beneath them began to collapse. >> i was maybe six feet from the deck when it collapsed. all i can describe it as is like 1,000 people standing up at the same time. it was a peculiar roar of noise, and by the time i turned around and in a split second, where there was once people, and i mean, 50 to 100 people at least, there was nothing. >> reporter: dozens off people had gone into the water, and within minutes helicopters were overhead, and divers in the bay, and fire rescue personnel were triaging victims and the bay is shallow where the deck collapsed a and that may have saved people from drowning. while there were two dozen inju injuries, nobody died. when you see in the daylight what is left of the deck, clearly it could have been so much worse. by mid-morning inspectors were documenting the scene along with structural engineers on boats looking for potential failure
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points, looking for a cause. stress failure, overcrowding, structural deterioration, salt water corrosion. on cnn's news room, the owners will likely be held accountable. >> they are to inspect the premises and even defects that are not vizible to the naked eye, and if they could have been discovered with a reasonable infection, any land own ser on the hook. >> reporter: the owners may have a duty, but there is nothing to compel them, because we spoke with florida building officials who said that a building or dock does not need to be reinspected unless it is modified. an inspector may come out, but not always. with restaurants with decks
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common, an inspector might be in order. >> and joining us on the phone was chris bowles who was at the bar last night feet from where the deck gave way. chris, it is a remarkable story. will you tell us where you were when this happened, presumably, you were watching the game and had a few beers and then what happened? >> well, we were sitting there, watching the heat coming bab and everybody was getting a little bit more excited, and we all were cheering a little bit more, and then all of the sudden, and i was actually looking to where i was, i was at the end of the bar which is about probably about six feet in front of the actual deck. and so we were sitting there cheering and then all of the sudden, we here this whoosh and a big bang. i described it as like, like a train, like hitting. at first i thought it was a boat hitting the docks or something, and then when i turned around, there was nobody there. and then you are like, stunned for a second, and then we started to walk over, and everybody started running to get over there to help people. as you can see this video that
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you have on right now is shot by my friend who was sitting next to me, and he was shooting video and pulling people out. it was crazy. women were krig and hcrying wit their faces and lots of cuts and shock shocks, and i mean a lot of the people just stood around shocked. >> what did you hear at the time? did you hear yelling, crying, shouting? >> a little bit of everything. i mean, you know, everybody was trying to help and the people were trying to scramble up the sides. it kind of fell in the middle of the deck, so it was kind of a v-shape and everybody was knee-deep up to their waists and knee-deep in the mid of the deck where it used to be, actually, and people were crawling up the sides on each side. everybody was trying to help. people were crying and shocked and people were, you know, there was a couple of kids that were very close, and one man as you can see right next to the actual desk holding a toddler, and he was probably a foot in front of
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where the deck fell. i think that everybody was kind of shocked. >> how deep is the water and how hard to get people out? >> it was is a good, i would say between six and ten feet in places where it fell. the water was fine, like i said. in the middle of where the deck was the v-shape was probably close to about maybe waist-high water. and then to get to the other side, they had to kind of crawl and the deck is wet, and people were slipping, falling. and you know, you are grabbing one arm to pull them up, and the other person is grabbing the other one, and so that the one good thing to see is that everybody jumped into help mode. everybody was helping and it is good to see that was the response from everybody. >> i was shocked to hear in the report that there is no requirement for these decks to be inspected. i'm curious, is this a place that you go the often, and does it seem like it is well kempt up? did they take care of the deck
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or does it seem to be in bad shape? >> well, i have been going there for years. i worked for many years down the street at one of the local tv stations, wvsn here in miami and it is a place we all go and close the work and we went down there to happy hour after work and have a couple of drinks and go home and social team time and we have been there many of times, and we don't sit at the deck, but at the bar. the deck always was pretty nice most of the time. but i know there were complaints that a few friends of mine have gone there and a few friends of mine have worked there and complained that you are walking on it, and it is sags, and w worried, but it has gone on for a few years, but i was never worried about it and i never thought that it would get to a point where it would break and fall in. that does not go through your head, because you think it is well inspected and safe. that is what businesses are supposed to do, so you rely on that to happen. >> of course. what a bizarre experience. thank you for all of the work that you did to save people, and thank you for sharing your
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clinton global initiative where he is going to be introducing at any moment republican governor chris christie, and the two of them will talk disaster relief. recently chris christie appearing with president obama, and now soon on the stage with another top democrat, bill clinton. >> and the oklahoma tornadoes, and we had storms as far as massachusetts and new york city last year. so, we need to give more thought to the responsibilities of leadership and how the plan for what happens after the disaster. mayor bloomberg, as i mentioned once earlier in the conference, just last week revealed the $20 billion plan to try to make new york city resilient in the face of what is almost certainly rising water levels in years ahead. it is a big challenge. governor christie received an
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enormous amount of publicity, and entirely deserved for the passionate advocacy for the people of new jersey and the work he did in the immediate aftermath of sandy. now there are no cameras there. but there are a lot of people still in trouble, and he is still doing that work. and so that's what i want all of you to think about, because many of you live in communities that are vulnerable to one or another kind of natural disaster, and we need to think about what happens when the worst is over, and you have to plan for tomorrow. so please join me in welcoming the governor of new jersey, governor chris christie. [ applause ]
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so, even as effective as you are, and i once was, we couldn't stop the big east from dissolving? >> no. >> and so after you get rid of this resilience thing, i want you to figure out how television revenues from football games can stop the, short of dissolving the greatest basketball c conference in american history, and it was really sad. >> what are we going to do next spring is the next question? >> watch a lot of television. >> yes. >> first, thank you for coming, and thank you for bringing your family. your wife and son are here somewhere. where are they? stand up. [ applause ]
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the christie's son is a son at princeton where he plays baseball, so he is okay with the big east dissolving. so once you got through the terrible emergency period, and all of the gripping pictures of everybody showing up and all of that, what did you do next? what have you done from the time that to this day from the time that the emergency ended to this day about your places that were devastate and the places that remain vulnerable? >> well, you know, it's hard for me as i look back on it to pinpoint when the emergency ended. it is when you get into the immediate aftermath of this type of situation, you know, our view was the first thing that you had to do was to try to return people the normalcy, and we defined normalcy in five ways. get the power back on. get the water treatment and
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wastewater treatment plants back up, and get the gas stations back open, and get the state highways reopen and get the kids back in school. we knew that if we got the five things done, then 90% of the state would be back to a state of normalcy, so i would gauge it from there, and then about three weeks out, we had most of that under control. so as you move forward from there, what you realize is that, this is going to be a year's long enterprise. it's, with sandy, in new jersey alone, 365,000 homes were severely damaged or destroyed. 365,000. so, what you are looking at then is how to get people a sense of hope, and also to do it in a smart way. so, the first thing we did was to sit down with the mayors in the most affected towns, and we said we want you to begin to
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think about, because in new jersey, it is a home rule state, so they control the local zoning and ordinances and so they had to be full partners. so we bring the mayors in, and i met with a lot of them one-on-one, and i said, i want you to have an honest conversation with the residents and i want the federal government to partner with us to buy out homes and properties that no longer should be standing, because they are so perpetually flooded over time. but i'm not going the force people out. so, i want you to start having that conversation. and then, in the places that don't want to sell out, how do we protect it? we came up with nothing novel, but three ways to go about protecting it. first in the jersey shore communities, not all of the shore communities had army corps of engineer design doom systems, and there is a lot of debate
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about this in new jersey a has been over the years are they worth it or not, and sandy settled that score. in the towns that had the army corps of engineer dune systems, the damage was minimal, but in the ones that didn't, the damage was complete. and so now there is no longer a debate in new jersey about whether we should have them as a safety precaution. so that is number one. i pitched very hard to president obama that that is one of the things to be included in the aid package, the ability to come pleat the dune system along the entire 130-mile-long atlantic coast of new jersey. and the congress agreed. we have the money now the do that. that is what we are working on right now the do that. second, you had to deal with the ordinances in towns regarding the building code. we worked with the state to now deal with using better materials and more resilient type of
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standards, because what we saw in new jersey was in a town like man man manniloke who had beautiful city, but they had no dunes and old homes under old codes, so we had to bring the codes up to the towns to deal with the new reality, and that is that the homes have to be much improved to be in the areas. so you have to do that. third, you have to work with fema on the flood maps and the updating of the flood maps, and then see how much you have to raze existing houses. what you will see in the new jersey shore if you have been there, when you come back in another couple of years, most homes with a four or five-block area of the ocean will be now on
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stilts. will be on pillars to, you know, to permit the water if it comes to run underneath and not create structural damage. so all of the conversations had to be had at the local level in our state, because new jerseyans have a tradition of being fiercely home ruin and they don't like the things imposed from the state-downward and they will fight brutally to prevent it. so my job as governor was to go to the towns to convince them that this is something that they need to do, and so far with some exceptions, but so far, we have been successful, and so that is what we had to do to deal with the people on the homeowner side of things, this is a new world and if you want to live here and you don't want to sell out, this is what you have to do the make the next time a storm comes to make the physical damage to property and the risk to human life be significant less than it was on october 29th. >> how many people took the
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and center this week at what is now the bill, hillary and chelsea clinton foundation. this is a photo hillary just tweeted of the two of them together backstage. chelsea sat down in a rare interview with the newest member of the cnn family, mikaela pereira. >> reporter: a lot of folks are speculating by the tweets coming from your mother's account lately that this could mean for a political future. you have campaigned with her, you've worked hard before. how would you feel about going out and campaigning for her? >> i'll support my mom in whatever she does. i mean, this goes back to the some things in life are complicated and some aren't. i mean, she's my mom, and i'm just unabashedly, unapologetically biased towards her because i just think she's awesome in every way, but also, as a young american and as a young woman and as someone who now is thinking about having her own family, she exemplifies and supports and advocates for so much of what i believe in.
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i'm thrilled that right now she's decided to join the clinton foundation. i can't wait to work with her into the future, and i will support whatever she does in the foundation or beyond. >> and joining us now is michaela pereira, the host of cnn's new morning show, "new day." michaela, welcome, and wow, what a get! chelsea clinton never speaks. you've landed her. impressive, i've got to say. >> thank you very much. it's a real pleasure to be with you. yeah, it was pretty exciting to get a chance to fly to chicago, my first assignment with cnn, sit down with chelsea and have a chance to talk to her about her aspirations, her hopes, the work she's doing with the foundation, and certainly evading the question when i asked her about her mom in 2016. >> she really did. i've got to ask you, she's skilled at avoiding questions about her mom's political aspirations, but did you get a sense from her body language at all which way you think her mom is leaning? >> you know, it's interesting, because she said, look, i'm unapologetically a supporter of
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my mother's, there's nothing she can do wrong in my eyes, i'll support anything she does. and what she said was in the foundation and beyond. it's that beyond that's always going to leave the big question mark for a lot of people. so, to me, it feels as though there could be a gear-up for something. >> i know. we're all expecting it. as they say, though, in her own tweet, hillary clinton said "tbd," so -- >> tbd. >> they are leaving the door wide open. >> exactly. >> i want to ask you about monday morning your show starts. you've got to be getting used to the early-morning wake-up calls. what are you most looking forward to about your first show? >> well, jessica, being an l.a. girl, you know nine years doing mornings, i'm very accustomed to the early hours. i'll be going to bed really early to get a good night's sleep, because i have to be on my toes for kate bolduan and chris cuomo. the two of them teaming up against me, i don't stand a chance. i'm so excited about the thing finally coming together. we've been working a lot behind the scenes for months now and finally just to get a chance to do the show live, i couldn't be more thrilled. >> well, i have been watching you for years because i'm from los angeles, west side girl.
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go, west side! >> all right. >> so, i know you're a rock star and i'm looking forward to watching. >> that's very kind of you, jessica. thanks for letting me come on and speak with you today. >> okay. look forward to monday. >> me, too. >> as you just heard, the countdown has begun for cnn's new morning show "new day." chris cuomo will be joined by our "the situation room" alum kate bolduan and michaela pereira starting monday morning at 6:00 eastern. watch them weekday mornings right here on cnn. and just ahead, how hackers can disable the medical devices that keep millions of people alive. and media mogul rupert murdoch, the force behind fox news, is suddenly splitting from his third wife in what could be another billion-dollar divorce. the great outdoors, and a great deal. grrrr ahhh let's leave the deals to hotels.com. perfect! yep, and no angry bears. up to 30% off. only at hotels.com.
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why is it important to you? >> well, i helped launch it and colleagues and friends of mine put it together. it is about girls, ten or so, who are exemplified from all sorts of different countries around the world, and it's about their striving to get an education. because like we all know, it's only education that can empower girls or boys out of poverty and into a real sort of functioning member of society, and they know that. and it's really very tragic. the figures are something like 35 million girls are out of education right now, don't have any access to education around the world. either they are forced into early marriages or they, you know, spend their lives doing what amounts to slave labor. and we have seen and the world has seen that when women, girls are fully empowered and there's parity and they have, you know, equal opportunity to contribute to society, well, then the whole society rises. and this is called "girl rising," and it has this not-gone effect that every extra
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year of primary or secondary education increases an individual, a girl's ability to earn and the earning power. >> they're also wonderful stories and it's a fascinating watch. thanks so much, christiane amanpour joining us. and that's it for me. "the situation room" continues now with jim acosta. hi. >> thank you, jessica. happening now, how hackers can harm you. a chilling, new warning that certain life-saving medical devices are vulnerable to cyber attackers. plus, desperate measures as colorado's most destructive fire keeps raging. we'll talk to a man who took matters into his own hands and saved his home. and cnn investigates a cancer charity rip-off. evidence that a family-run operation is putting profits over patients. wolf blitzer is off today. i'm jim acosta. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. world. you're in "the situation room." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com we've all heard the revelations lately about hacking
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and spying and all of the ways our privacy is being compromised, but this is about life and death. we're learning that cyber attackers have the ability to disable certain medical devices that help keep millions of people alive. the fda is worried enough that it's taking action. cnn's brian todd is digging into this story. he joins us now live on this very important story. brian? >> jim, we have spoken to the cyber security experts who alerted the fda to this problem. they told us it was so easy for them to hack into the devices like pacemakers and defibrillators that they had to tell the government immediately. a cyber security firm has found major vulnerabilities that would allow hackers access to pacemakers, anesthesia devices, monitoring stations and other life-sustaining medical equipment, a threat so real, the fda is taking action. it's the story line in a harrowing scene in the showtime series "homeland." terrorists send a signal to a pacemaker, an attempt to take down america's vice president. >> call the doctor.
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>> reporter: but it's not just the stuff of function. stewart mcclure of the firm scilance shows another device, an insulin pump that could easily be compromised. >> all you need is a simple little antenna, that you plug into your laptop and you develop a little program to connect to this wirelessly over radio, and then you can take over the actual system itself, increase the maximum amount of insulin that can be dispensed and then dispense that particular insulin to the patient. and that's how dangerous this stuff can be and how very, very real world it is. >> reporter: mcclure once demonstrated the technique on an industrial pump, overpressurizing it remotely. this is a wireless defibrillator and mcclure says wireless devices can also be hacked. mcclure and his team have just told the fda what they have done and the fda has just put out the
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word to manufacturers -- tighten the safety standards of all of these gadgets, from fetal monitors to defibrillators like this one. make sure that your antivirus software and firewalls are up to date. use biometrics and sophisticated smart cards. make those passwords tougher to figure out. the fda says, so far, it's not aware of any patient injuries or deaths from the hacking of medical equipment, but mcclure says almost everything's wide open. pacemakers and other cardiac equipment westbound slowed or disabled. monitors could shut off. at beth israel deaconess medical center in boston a few years ago, a glitch, not a hack, slowed down fetal monitors for women with high-risk pregnancies. the computer systems for these devices are interconnected, wide open, and widespread. >> on an average day, beth israel deaconess has 15,000 devices connected to its network, things you wouldn't normally think of as being connected to a network, like a monitor or an iv pump today are
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smart. >> dr. john halamka says his hospital does firewall off its system to prevent hacking. but even with the fda tightening up on manufacturers, experts say it's going to be a long time before those manufacturers really get safer devices in place. the manufacturers may fight it because of the expense of that, and it may require recalls, jim. so, it may be a long way away from really safe guarding these devices. >> and we want to underline, because a lot of our viewers might have missed it and you did mention it in the story, that we're only talking about the potential for danger here. >> that's right. >> but some of the experts you've been talking to said that perhaps devices that are impl t implanted on the brain could be hacked into it. >> that's right, and they've done it in labs. stuart mcclure says there is something called a neuro brain stimulator. it's embedded into the brain of parkinson's patients around others. these control the parts of the brain that control tremor and shaking and they have the attack evacuators like pacemakers and things like that. they can be hacked into.
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they've done it in laboratories. it's scary stuff. >> this discussion of cyber security and hacking really has opened up a whole new world in terms of what the potentials are out there for trouble. >> right, absolutely. >> not just for our national security secrets, but perhaps for people's medical safety as well. >> it's wide open. >> brian todd, thank you. >> sure. now to syria and the controversy surrounding president obama's decision to give military assistance to the rebels. deputy national security adviser ben rhodes refused today to give any specifics. he says they're looking at possibility of a no-fly zone but raised doubts on whether it would be effective. take a listen. >> frankly, in syria, when you have a situation where regime forces are intermingled with opposition forces, they're fighting in some instances block by block in cities, that's not a problem you can solve from the air. so, i think people need to understand that the no-fly zone is not some type of silver bullet that is going to stop a very intense, and in some respects, sectarian conflict that is taking place on the ground. >> no surprise, taking the
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opposite position, republican senator john mccain is strongly urging the president to impose a no-fly zone in syria to help the rebels. mccain told cnn's christiane amanpour is troubled that the president isn't spelling out a more specific game plan for syria. >> in my view, what is very curious is that the president of the united states himself didn't come out and say what the united states plans to do. i mean, if this is an escalation, i think the people of the united states deserve an explanation. and if he wants support he's going to have to talk directly to the american people. >> it's only been a day since the white house confirmed its assessment that the syrian regime has used chemical weapons and crossed the president's red line, but the obama team has been weighing its options in syria for months privately. some sources are giving us a rough outline of what may happen next, and here's our cnn pentagon correspondent, chris lawrence, with more. >> reporter: jim, u.s. officials are now confirming that they do plan to send small arms and
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ammunition into the rebels in seera, b syria, but what does that mean for american officials and assets? with me, james "spider" marks. general when you take a look at the lay of the land here on the map, and you take a look at the military options, you know, you're talking about small arms. >> right. >> how much difference can that make against the fire power of assad? >> probably very little difference at all at this point. these are small arms, as you've described. we hope that it includes some antitank weapons systems. we don't know, and i haven't heard that it's going to include surface-to-air shoulder-fired surface-to-air weapons systems. >> we don't think it is. >> that's unfortunate. these by themselves will provide very little difference at all, short answer. >> and are we talking about -- are we talking about american weapons? are we talking about american-made weapons, u.s.-made weapons going directly into the hands of the rebels? >> oh, probably not. this is probably soviet model type stuff.
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>> klish could haves. >> absolutely, provided by the united states, but from friends and neighbors in the region. >> so, we know this is going to be run by the cia. do you anticipate a small u.s. footprint in a few areas as opposed to a larger presence? >> oh, i guarantee you that the cia already has a presence in syria right now. i mean, the intended recipient for these weapons systems are the various leaders within these opposition forces that are out there, and the cia's charter is to go identify, vet, recruit and get those folks on board so that these weapons systems can go someplace into some hands that can then do something about it. >> so, maybe being flown into turkey, driven over the border, given to the rebels in jordan, perhaps? coming up -- >> chris, absolutely. in fact, what you'll probably see is the u.s. coming into a port here, going around some major line of communications, a major road into the border area with syria. and the u.s. may also try to fly
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weapons systems into jordan and then through proxies get them in -- >> train some of the rebels and send them in? >> absolutely. >> and when you take a look at the other option, no-fly. the white house has said they've got no stomach for it. the pentagon basically saying they're not doing any new planning. what are the dangers of a no-fly zone, even a limited no-fly zone along the southern border? >> right. no-fly zone along the southern border or even possibly up here, chris? the deal is, with a no-fly zone, is there is a lot of coordination that needs to take place. it's just not aircraft flying. >> rescue crews, refueling. >> absolutely, downed aircraft, rescue, refueling has to take place. and then, what are the rules of engagement for these aircraft? do they have the authority to shoot if somebody violates this no-fly charter? >> okay. so, that's probably off the table. no-fly zone not under consideration right now, but obviously still, jim, a lot of military options still on the table. >> and now to politics.
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we are monitoring the clinton global initiative meeting in chicago, where right now governor chris christie -- and there it is on screen -- is discussing how to respond to federal natural disasters with federal and state response. and you can see, there they are, the governor and the former president sitting on the chairs across from one another talking about this. they haven't gotten into politics just yet, but with hillary clinton also at the meeting, plenty of other people are. cnn's at the clinton foundation meeting in chicago. erin, it is interesting to see these two men sitting across from each other. it didn't get too political, but i saw a tweet earlier that bill clinton asked governor christi, wouldn't it be nice if we could rule by fiat? and apparently, the governor said, yes, how great would that be? doesn't exactly work that way, obviously, but all of the atmospherics there in chicago's got them talking about 2016, isn't that right? >> reporter: they sure do, jim. and we saw a little bit from
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hillary clinton as well earlier today as well as yesterday. but a lot of 2016 talk here in chicago already this weekend. if you were putting together a fantasy team of 2016 presidential candidates, you'd probably pick from this week's lineup and start right here in chicago. >> it's called too small to fail. it's designed to help parents and teachers, businesses and communities learn from the latest scientific research on brain development. >> reporter: private citizen hillary clinton has turned her attention to a philanthropic domestic agenda, leaving attendees here at this week's clinton global initiative meeting buzzing that she'll be the odds-on favor for the democratic nomination three years from now. >> do you want to see her run for president in a few years? >> absolutely. i think if there's any woman who can do it, hillary is the woman. >> president clinton, thank you very much. >> reporter: the only other
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democrat who got even minor attention this week and who could be in the 2016 mix is chicago mayor rahm emanuel, but he was a distant second fiddle to the main event. but the curious attraction at the democrats' party in chicago was the appearance of another potential 2016 hopeful, a republican. >> this special election is not about playing politics. it's about doing the right thing. >> you ain't lyin', c.c. ♪ >> reporter: fresh off slow-jamming the news with jimmy fallon -- >> now we're going to have a little fun. >> reporter: new jersey governor chris christie took the stage with former president bill clinton. >> how do you give people a sense of hope and also do it in a smart way? >> reporter: it could easily be a preview of the next general election, giving political watchers a visual image now of political heavyweights pitted against each other sharing the stage. it may be a sly move by christi, but it may not have sat well
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with the conservatives who would have to select him as their standard bearer. >> he's more moderate, so that's probably why, you know. he's kind of got a bad rap from hanging out with obama. >> reporter: christi opted for the clinton event instead of the faith in freedom coalition's conference, a conservative cattle call of likely gop presidential contenders going on in washington. jeb bush, rand paul, marco rubio and paul ryan all took turns addressing the party faithful. >> what the american people are seeing every day as they turn on their tv screens, as they see these investigations, as they see this overreach, is this is not what i bargained for. >> reporter: of course, paul ryan won't face off against president obama again. if the last two days are any indication, the next three years in politics are shaping up to be hillary clinton versus the republicans. >> good afternoon! >> reporter: now, jim, if we can possibly do any more tea leaf reading, cgi america will be held next year in denver, which
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was the site of the 2008 democratic convention, and of course, colorado's a big swing state, so i'm sure they'll be ready to see hillary clinton again next year, jim. >> that is a very good analysis of that, but i'm sure the folks at the clinton foundation would say, wait, wait, wait, this has nothing to do with 2016 politics. but of course, we'll have to see about that. >> reporter: of course not! >> of course not. but it was interesting to see the husband of the potential presidential candidate, hillary clinton, a former president himself, and governor chris christie, who they may be going against one another in just a few short years from now. so, we'll be watching that. erin, thank you. speaking of colorado, we are live there next for the latest on that unprecedented wildfire, and i'll talk to a man who battled the blaze himself and saved his home. and cnn investigates charities. disturbing evidence that donations are being squandered. i'm a careful investor. when you do what i do, you think about risk. i don't like the ups and downs of the market, but i can't just sit on my cash.
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most destructive wildfire in colorado's history, but there's still widespread danger. 389 homes have been destroyed in the colorado springs area and at least two people have been killed. cnn's george howell is in colorado springs and he has the latest there for us. george, how are things looking? >> reporter: well, jim, you know, definitely some good signs out here. you can see the clouds overhead. just about a hour ago, the rain started coming down here. the sky opened up, the rain came down. a lot of people here credit it for this latest news, that the city of colorado springs has lifted its mandatory evacuation. right now a voluntary evacuation remains in effect. but i just spoke with governor john hickenlooper about that, and he's quite happy as well. take a listen. >> that rain just dropped 10 or 15 degrees off the temperature, plus it, you know, i mean, it's a firefighter's best friend. >> reporter: you got wet yourself here, yeah? >> yeah. i was standing right up there. you know, it's the first time --
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my grandmother would always say, you're too stupid to come out of the rain. i was too happy to come out of the rain. >> reporter: good news for the governor, good news for a lot of residents here, but here's the issue. so, we got a lot of rain. what impact did lightning have, if any? we're waiting for an update from officials here within the next hour, but fair to say people are happy to see what's happening. officials are optimistic about their progress. behind the fire lines, this is what firefighters are trying to prevent, homes and structures incinerated by fast-moving flames, an unpredictable fire. so far, more than 375 homes have been destroyed. but for those whose homes are still in danger, residents like sue schroeder are keeping the faith in officials who are overseeing the fight. >> we just sit around the tvs waiting to hear, so, your information has just been unbelievable, so thank you so much. >> you're very welcome. >> we're very humbled by it. >> you're very welcome. >> keep fighting for us. >> i will. >> i saw you walk up to the
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sheriff a minute ago. >> we sure did, because you know, we look to him for support and the guidance and information that we're all looking for, we're starving for, because we're out of the home. >> reporter: the schroeders are among the more than 38,000 people who have been evacuated since the fire started. no one knows the personal impact of this ordeal on residents better than el paso county sheriff terry mckeita. during this process when people are walking up to you, they want to shake your hand, they want to thank you. i mean, what do you think of all that, these people that are paying such close attention to what you're doing? >> you know, it's pretty moving. it's really a team effort. and when i have citizens approach me, i take it as it's not just me personally. they're thanking the effort of my office and all my employees. >> reporter: it's the sheriff's office working with police officers working with firefighters and the national guard to jointly search for hotspots and hold the perimeter of this wildfire. at this point, more than 16,000 acres have been burned, but
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officials say they didn't lose any ground thursday night. and for many here, that's comforting news. you've been able to look on the list. do you know if your home is okay right now? >> yes, it's fine right now. >> yeah, it is okay as of this morning, we saw. we do know that it's within a mile of one of the hotspots. and quite frankly, we did not think we'd be standing here today thinking that our home would survive. >> reporter: are you worried? >> you know, concerned, of course. how could you not be? worried? you know, things are out of our hands. it is what it is. >> reporter: and for the things that can be controlled, like the prospect of looting -- >> i could not drive a road last night without coming across a law enforcement unit. >> reporter: sheriff maketa says checkpoints and road blocks are being strictly enforced to protect people's property as the fight continues to save it. and john, you know -- i'm sorry, jim, when the piece was running, we started to get more rain down here again. so, you know, this may be good news. we're waiting to see exactly how
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much it adds up to when we talk to these officials here within the next hour, jim. >> we will hope for the best. george howell, thank you. some people in the fire zone are taking matters into their own hands. dale milky had planned to evaluate but changed his mind soon after he took this video of his cabinet-making workshop. he thought he would never see it again. take a look. >> coming up the road. all the houses, it's about to burn across the road into the house now. we're going to leave. this is all the stuff i'm working on. all right, we'd better go. >> and dale milky joins us on the show now. dale, thanks very much for joining us. and i just wanted to ask you right off the top -- we just saw your cabinet-making workshop there. it sounds like, from what our staff tells us, you were able to save it. how did you do it? >> i started out by using some fire extinguishers that i had, and when i ran out of those, then i had buckets that had collected rainwater, just on
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accident, and i used that to put out the fire that was up in the soft and the eaves. i just threw that up on top of it. >> and what was going through your mind as you were doing that? i mean, were the flames getting close to you at that point? what was happening? >> yes. well, they were close enough to singe my mustache and my eyebrows. >> wow. >> so, i was trying to stop it from getting any further into the workshop. i knew it was small enough that i could have a positive outcome on it, and so, i just kept thinking, i don't want to lose the workshop, i don't want to lose the house. so, i did what i could while i was still not in imminent danger. >> and dale, it sounds like -- i mean, if it was singeing your mustache and eyebrows, that it was right on top of you. my understanding is that you also tried to save your neighbors' house as well, but that was just not a successful battle in the end. >> no. i'm a retired firefighter from the city, so i knew some things that i should do.
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so while there was still time, i tried to throw stuff off their deck, the firewood, all the stuff that was flammable, and it just had too much of a head start, so i wasn't able to, you know, stop it before it got to the house part. >> and where are you right now, dale? what's it look like where you are now? >> i'm at my house. i look over the east part of black forest. it's cloudy. i see helicopters still flying around, a little tiny bit of rain, but it's much cooler than it was the last couple days, so it's very encouraging. >> and we just heard from our george howell, talking to the governor there, governor hickenlooper, that you know, because of the rain that is starting to fall, that people are starting to feel a bit more optimistic there in colorado. do you feel the same way? do you think it's going to be enough rain to make a dent in this fire? what do you think? >> no, it's not even close to enough rain to stop it but it can help slow it down a little bit, and that's what they need, just so it puts out some of the dust fires that are in pine needles and that helps to knock
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it down, but any of the big fire, it's not enough to do that, to stop that. >> well, dale, it's a remarkable story that you were able to save your house, and hopefully, your mustache and your eyebrows will grow back and everything will be okay. but all the best to you and your family in what is some very difficult circumstances. >> all right, thank you very much. >> all right, thank you, dale. >> bye. and coming up, police rule out a couple of major reasons why a sports bar's deck may have collapsed. we'll have the latest on the investigation as well as a newly released audio of the 911 calls.
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happening now, charity rip-off revealed. we're investigating an operation that's apparently squandering donations and getting away with it. plus, the feds take on the new york police department over a program that gives cops a lot of leeway to stop you and frisk you. and singing "happy birthday" can cost you cash? that may be changing. wolf blitzer's off today. i'm jim acosta and you are in "the situation room." if you've ever pulled out your checkbook to send money to a worthy cause, pay attention to this next story. over the last year, cnn has teamed up with the "tampa bay times" and the center for investigative reporting to expose some scandalous charity practices. what we have learned is that a small but aggressive group of charity operators appears to be more interested in enriching themselves with six-figure charities -- excuse me, six-figure salaries while helping others. watch what happens as drew griffin of cnn's "special
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investigations unit" tried to get some answers. >> reporter: drive down these country roads outside knoxville, tennessee, and into this small industrial park and you'll find the headquarters of a family conglomerate of cancer charities that return lavish salaries to their owners. but according to their over tax records, donate very little to dying cancer patients. and the last thing the people running this charity want to do is answer questions. >> don't, don't turn your camera on me, okay? >> reporter: across the country in mesa, arizona, another outpost of the conglomerate. it's called the breast cancer society. its ceo and executive director? the man escaping in the truck, james reynolds jr. excuse me, sir? mr. reynolds? hey, excuse me, mr. reynolds. right here, buddy. mr. reynolds? hi. hi, can you stop for a second? no, where are you going, mr. reynolds? mr. reynolds? back in knoxville, there's another cancer charity, the
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children's cancer fund of america, and this one run by yet another member of the family. rose perkins. hi, is rose perkins in? >> she's unavailable and she's not doing any interviews at all. >> reporter: why won't she do interviews? she's running a charity here for kids with cancer, right? that seems like a good idea. >> i've just been told to tell you she's not doing interviews. >> reporter: can you tell us what you guys do, any positive things you do with the money you collect? >> you can send your questions to her e-mail. >> reporter: okay. >> and we'll answer it. >> reporter: if you were asking us for money, what would you say you did with your money? >> we help children with cancer. >> reporter: how do you do that? >> what do you mean how do we do that? we help children with cancer. >> reporter: how? >> we provide them a financial assistance. >> reporter: financial assistance? and do you have any idea how many -- >> if you have any other questions, please send them to her e-mail. >> reporter: okay, my question -- rose perkins did e-mail us and tell us her charity has a clear conscience "because we feel we are making a
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good difference in people's lives," but also told us an interview is "not something we can consider." that may be because of the questions we'd like to ask her and the other members of her extended family who are essentially making a living on your donations. rose perkins, the ceo of the children's cancer fund, is paid $227,442 a year. her ex-husband, james reynolds sr., is president and ceo of cancer fund of america. he gets paid $236,815. and james reynolds jr., president and ceo of the breast cancer society, has a salary of $261,609. it's money that comes from donors like you, who in 2011 sent these three charities $26 million in cash. how much of those donations actually went to helping cancer
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patients? according to the charity's own tax records, about 2% in cash. example -- the cancer fund of america raised $6 million through its fund-raising campaign in 2011 and gave away just $14,940 in cash. but that is not what you would hear from the telemarketers hired by the cancer fund of america, run by james reynolds sr. >> okay, how much of my $10 will go -- who is this to? >> cancer fund of america support services. 100% of the donation goes into the fund where we purchase medical supplies for these cancer patients. we also do the hospice care for the terminally ill and we supply over 600 hospice offices with medical supply all over the united states. >> but how much of my $10 will go -- >> it goes 100% towards the charity itself. i'm calling directly from the charity and not a telemarketing agency. >> oh, well, that's great, then. >> reporter: according to the iowa attorney general's office,
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which gave us these recordings, those phone call statements are one great big lie. the callers were telemarketers being paid to make the call. the state of iowa fined the telemarketing company $35,000 for making false representations. as for donations to other charities, the cancer fund of america claimed on its 2011 tax filings it sent $761,000 in so-called gifts in kind, not actually cash, to churches, some hospitals and other programs around the country. when we called or e-mailed those other charities to check, many of them said they did get something, things like these supplies, but several of the groups told us they never heard of the cancer fund of america or don't remember getting a thing. the cancer fund also takes credit for serving as a middleman, brokering transfer of
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another $16 million worth of gifts and kind in individuals and other charities, many of them overseas. those contributions double up both as revenue and donations on the same tax forms. back at the cancer fund of america's corporate office, even the chief financial officer, who by the way has a salary of $121,000, couldn't explain what was happening. >> we just have all these north mississippi medical center, never heard of you, yolanda barco oncology institute, nothing. >> i don't know if that's one of the ones we looked up, but again, you would have to talk to him. >> reporter: the him is james reynolds sr., the founder who finally told us in an e-mail, his board thought it unwise to talk to cnn, even though in a different e-mail, he called the news of phantom donations "most disturbing." as for his son, james reynolds jr., and his charity in arizona? >> hey, how are you? >> hi. the camera needs to stay
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outside. >> okay, can he stay right there? is mr. reynolds here? >> i'm sorry. he's not in right now. >> reporter: the public relations officer for the breast cancer society, kristina hixson, who, by the way, is married to james reynolds jr., sent us e-mails telling us the breast cancer society's guiding mission is to provide relief to those who suffer from the effects of breast cancer and that "we've made a difference in the lives of tens of thousands of men and wom women" but declined our request for an oncamera interview. and when our camera found james reynolds jr., he made sure we got the message wit a single finger salute. drew griffin, cnn, knoxville, tennessee. >> in a statement posted on its website today, the breast cancer society in mesa, arizona, claimed the financial information in drew griffin's report was "grossly ignorant at best" and that 75% of its revenues went to its programs. but if you look at the organization's tax returns for 2011, that is not the case.
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the charity reported raising slightly more than $13 million in cash and donating $312,000 in cash to 798 unnamed recipients. that works out to a little less than 4%. the remainder of the donations were in those so-called gifts in kind. and the value of those gifts was determined solely by the breast cancer society. still ahead, in louisiana, more bad news and more questions after a deadly explosion at a chemical plant. i'm the next american success story. working for a company where over seventy-five percent of store management started as hourly associates. there's opportunity here. i can use walmart's education benefits to get a degree, maybe work in it, or be an engineer, helping walmart conserve energy. even today, when our store does well, i earn quarterly bonuses. when people look at me, i hope they see someone working their way up. vo: opportunity, that's the real walmart.
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take a look at this. the video is dark, but you can see flashlights picking out rescuers helping people dumped into the waters of florida's biscayne bay last night after a miami area sports bar's deck collapsed. cnn has just obtained some of the 911 calls. take a listen. >> oh, my god! >> what is it? >> we need a rescue at shockers
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in north bay village. >> what is the -- >> oh, my god, the thing just collapsed in the water! shockers grill in north bay village. >> miami-dade county police and fire, where's the emergency? >> i'm at shockers bar and grill and the deck just totally and completely collapsed. there's at least 100 people in the water right now. other people are going to save them but it's horrible. >> wow. well, about 100 people were on the deck watching last night's nba playoff game when the deck collapsed. about two dozen people were hurt. "the miami herald" reports authorities still don't know what caused the collapse but have ruled out overcrowding and criminal activity. a second person has died as a result of the explosion and fire at a louisiana chemical plant. yesterday's explosion also injured about 100 workers, although only a handful remain hospitalized. plant officials say the fire now is out and they're cooperating with investigators in trying to find out what caused the blast.
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that's now attracted the attention of the justice department. >> it's fear. that's the primary thing. whether i'm driving in a car and a police car goes past or sirens come or anything, my heart drops. >> reporter: ourlicht is one of four plaintiffs in a class-action lawsuit challenging the nypd stop-and-frisk policy. the suit filed by the center for constitutional rights claims minorities are routinely stopped for no legal reason. >> maybe i am being targeted, you know, because i have, you know, my friends don't have the same experiences that i have. >> reporter: a judge is now deciding the case that has prompted protests in the city, and the justice department is weighing in. it filed a brief, making clear it's not taking sides, but it says, if a judge decides the policy is unconstitutional, it recommends an independent monitor of the nypd be put in place. >> we think that a monitor would be even more disruptive than an
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ig. this is just a terrible idea and it's not needed. >> reporter: new york city mayor michael bloomberg and the city's police commissioner have strongly defended stop-and-frisk. the city says the policy has dramatically cut crime and that officers stop people based on suspicion in high-crime areas. >> you have a right to be safe and we have an obligation to make sure that you're safe, and we have to do it consistent with the law. we believe we've done that. >> reporter: and while the justice department isn't commenting on the constitutionality of the city's policy, cnn legal contributor paul calen says its involvement sends a strong signal. >> if they truly believe there was no merit to the lawsuit, they wouldn't be saying, hey, you know, if you find against new york city, knock on our door and we'll monitor the new york city police department. so, the very overture being made by the justice department would seem to indicate that they've taken a side against new york city and the new york city police department's
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stop-and-frisk policies. >> reporter: and jim, the use of independent police monitors isn't unprecedented. they've been used in los angeles, and they're currently in other cities that include seattle and new orleans. jim? >> an important issue we'll be watching. thank you, mary. up next, could presidential elections be a turning point in iran? cnn's erin burnett is there and she will join us live. [ male announcer ] running out of steam? ♪ now you can give yourself a kick in the rear! v8 v-fusion plus energy. natural energy from green tea plus fruits and veggies. need a little kick? ooh! could've had a v8. in the juice aisle. hodoes your dog food have?s need a little kick? ooh! 30? 20? new purina one beyond has 9. the simplified purina one beyond. learn more about these wholesome ingredients at purinaone.com he is the most awesome 5-year-old on the face of the planet. the most important thing is to know that he is safe. [ crash, alarm blaring ]
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unconstitutional. it's not acceptable to have a secret interpretation of a law that goes far beyond any reasonable reading of either the law or the constitution and then classify as top cret what the law is. meanwhile, the search goes on for edward snowdon amid speculation about where he may travel next. they received an alert to prevent him from boarding any flight to the united nations. it's believed he's still in hong kong, but no one knows for sure and the manhunt is still on. erin burnett is in iran right now, in tehran, and she's go "outfront" looking at the presidential elections in the country, a very important day in the elections, erin. what is the government in iran at this point saying about the turnout? >> you know, this is interesting, jim, because the government, they're trying to get results quickly. they're going to have it within
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24 hours of the polls closing. they closed about four hours ago, just about that time. the big question is whether it will go to the run off. the ayatollah said the high turnout would deal a blow to iran's enemies referring to the west and the united states. as we said, whether from patriotism or pressure, a lot of people did turn out, at least here in tehran. the big city is different than the countryside. we didn't see what happened in the countryside. there are more votes there than here in the big cities, but we saw long lines early in the day. we're told usually those happen later in the day. that would indicate turnout was higher. at another polling station, the campaign official from the government is eager to say turnout is 60%. it seems they're going to be able to report a high turnout number they say is so important to the legitimacy of the elections. we talked to plenty of people who said they weren't voting and
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none wanted to talk about that on camera. they said, we voted before and nothing has changed. quote/unquote what's the point, but they didn't want to talk about that on camera. we saw plenty of people voting, plenty voting for more conservative cant kdz, and as well as the reform candidate, and the question is whether this will go to a runoff when the first results come in. >> we know you'll have more on the critical story at the top of the hour. we encourage you to watch that. coming up, do you know you're supposed to pay if you sing the song "happy birthday"? i'm not paying. i am an american success story. i'm a teacher. i'm a firefighter. i'm a carpenter. i'm an accountant. a mechanical engineer. and i shop at walmart.
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it could cost you. we're not talking about the cakeering not talking about the cantles. john berman explains. >> let's go ahead and sing. happy birthday to you. >> no, mr. president, don't do it. not that song. not another white house controversy. wait, stop! not the kids, too. don't put them in this kind of legal jeopardy. ♪ happy birthday >> i know it's pretty much the most famous song in the english language, i know we've all sung it. everyone from babes to bombshells.
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happy birthday, indeed, mr. president. ♪ happy birthday >> but if your happy birthday is too big, too public, and you don't have permission, it could cost you. $150,000. ♪ happy birthday >> or $112,630 gryos for those who dared to sing to former pope benedict had they been charged. that's the cost for the unauthorized use of those 16 words, according to waurnler chapel umusic, which claims it owns the rights to happy birthday. >> it's a case in which i believe the previous owners of the song, at some point, didn't think themselves was protected, but then they saw an opportunity. >> now, one company is filing a lawsuit to have the song returns to the public domain. >> the arrangements are still under protection, but nobody
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plays those particular piano arrangements when they perform, so that's not economically significant. >> warner chapel has its reason for fighting, $2 million reasons in fact, that's how much they make every year on that song. it's why so many tv shows and movies go to ridiculous ends to not sing happy birthday even though they mean happy birthday, from the three stooges. ♪ if you get a tummy ache and you moan and groan ♪ >> to two broke girls who would be even more broke if they ddabout try this version. ♪ happy birthday to you >> even mr. rogers. ♪ happy birthday happy birthday dear friend ♪ ♪ we sing to you >> even mr. rogers. if it's not safe for him, can it be safe for any of us?
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♪ happy birthday to you ♪ happy birthday to -- oh, never mind. >> yay! >> i can't afford it. on behalf of cnn, i apologize for my singing. i should also mention cnn reached out to warner chapel, but a spokesman for the company declined to comment. >> that story makes me feel a year older. i'm jim acosta. thanks for joining us tonight. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" tonight, live from tehran, the polls close here in iran. will there be any change when it comes to leadership and iran's nuclear program. that's coming up. >> plus, the revolutionary guard. you may have heard the name the all powerful and mysterious military linked group that control the economy. we went to see one of the banks that they control today, that the.
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