ireland. mrs. obama toured the area with her daughters while the president was at the g-8 summit. that's it for me. "cnn newsroom" continues. have a good afternoon. brooke baldwin takes it from here. secrets no more. the feds defending the nsa surveillance program now revealing that they helped disrupt more than 50 terror attacks, including a plat against the new york stock exchange. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. a new study suggests a link between autism and pollution. we'll break it down. plugs, angelina jolie's choice to get a double mastectomy called fearful, not brave. that from cancer survivor melissa etheridge. we'll debate. and a search suddenly heats up for the time square bike bomber. new video services of the person who tried to bomb a military station in gotham.

good to see you on this tuesday afternoon. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being with me. i have to begin with this story that's just in to us here at cnn. it's disgusting the details, but we want to pass it along to you because this goes to our point on so many other stories that we can do better. out of ohio. a woman and her child who are right now, thank goodness, free after being held captive for two years. this is according to our affiliate woio just about two hours outside of cleveland in this town, ashland, ohio. what we know is this. in ashland, ohio, apparently three people are under arrest for what police are calling modern day slavery. the suspects forced the mother to hit her child all the while this was being videotaped. we're told the suspects threatened to show police the

video if she ever tried to talk. it gets worse. because according to these charges that we're just now learning, the suspect used beatings, pit bulls, snakes, and threats of death to keep them from running. we are also told mom and the child are recovering. again, this is a story just coming in. we're just getting information. promise you we're making phone calls. we'll pass it along on cnn. meantime, to the story in washington. the proof is public that the u.s. snooping works to stop terrorists. this has gone beyond meta data, numbers crunchings. folks, we have names, faces, targets. look at this with me. details were declassified and then put on the record at this hearing this morning on capitol hill. the chief of the national security agency and leaders of the fbi, they named these specific four plots that they say were disrupted, were

thwarted because of the surveillance programs that critics call a mass invasion of privacy. that is four plots of more than 50 nsa director keith alexander says where american lives were saved. >> post 9/11 i don't recognize the fbi i came into 26 years ago. our mission is to stop terrorism, prevent it. not after the fact, to prevent it before it happens in the united states. and i can tell you every tool is essential and vital and the tools as i outlined you in the uses today have been valuable to stopping some of those plots. you asked how can you put the value on an american life? i can tell you, it's priceless. >> i know you want details. let me run through these different plots that were stopped. first you have this one. this was the new york subway plot, an intercepted e-mail from pakistan led from nazibull

nazibullah zazi. next one takes us to the new york stock exchange. yemen led us to khalid ouazzani. the next one is the danish new hampshire, the nsa, found this american specifically working on the plot to bomb the paper that published cartoons of the prophet muhammad and the fourth plot we learned about today, a reopened case, one in which the fbi had closed but the nsa reopened because of what analysts uncovered and an official said the u.s. was able to, quote, unquote, disrupt terrorist activity. those are four of more than 50 plus plots. want to talk to two former officials from the cia, ruel garrett is a senior fellow as the foundation for the defense of democracies and bob bahre is cnn national security analyst. gentlemen, welcome to you.

bob, let me begin with you. when you were listening to the hearings, reading about it, was there one specific detail that you heard that surprised you? >> well, what surprised me -- not -- didn't surprise me is there weren't more details. we're essentially taking the words of the national security agency that that, in fact, undid these plots and that warrants were not needed. >> to that point, i started wondering when the government sayings, trust us, we're going to tell you about these plots, there are 50 others we're not going to tell you about. should we, the public, trust the government? >> brooke, no. they're investigating themselves, looking into themselves, justifying it and maybe they're right, but i'd certainly like to see all the evidence from beginning to end before i'd make up my mind. they've just given partial information about these files. it's not enough to tell for sure. >> ruel, your thoughts.

ruel, are you with me? >> yes, i am. >> what are your thoughts? should they be declassified. >> i think bob -- hi, bob. is being perhaps a tad bit skeptical. i think you should trust but verify. i think for an opening statement this was a pretty good one. i think the government obviously needed to do it after all the brouhaha that this started. the prism program makes sense. obviously it's an intelligence officer's nightmare if people are changing their tell phones. tracking a telephone is difficult. it's always a bit of a needle in a haystack. i suspect the government in part is telling the truth, but i would agree with bob that i think, you know, we need to look at the cases and re-engineer them, deconstruct them to see if it makes sense. >> but isn't there a danger in that? cases are classified for a reason. you two know that.

both having been with the cia. is that a responsible thing to do? >> well, obviously at this point i think they had to do this. if you were to do this again, i'm sure the government would rather not declassify them, but i'm sure there are things about this that can be declassified. i think we understand in general what prism is about. there is certainly a danger in the future that, you know, terrorists will be more cautious in the use of digital communications. they should be already. it's usually people sloppy in this that gets them into trouble. it's not the lack of knowledge of what the united states government is doing. >> okay. bob, now that we're learning all of this has been going on for seven years, the haystack is getting bigger and bigger. there are so many people out there wondering, bob bahre, with this program, why did boston happen? >> well, the truth is these

programs like prism, looking at the internet, meta data work best after it's occurred. predicting an event is very, very difficult. it includes a lot of luck in knowing who the pieces are in advance so looking at this. the mistakes were made by not informing the national security agency about these travel, about not turning the system on the boston bombers in advance and they didn't do it. that was a human failing. they're still stove piping in the government. there's so many things to fix that we haven't fixed since 9/11 and, you know, in totality this can all work but unless you make all the pieces work together it won't. >> so then reuel, finally to you. let's remember the reason why we're talking about this, the leaker himself, edward snowden who could be anywhere, presumably in hong kong, pretty

brazen with "the guardian" yesterday. do you think he's gotten what he wanted? >> i think mr. snowden is a bit of a flake so i think it's difficult to psychologically profile him. he's certainly gotten a lot of attention. i think he knew that was coming. i suspect it will not kill the program. there is substantial bipartisan support for it in the congress and that's really all that's necessary to keep it going. >> flake so sues reuel gerecht, bob bahre, thank you both coming from the cia. now to this. ready or not, afghanistan is now officially in charge of its own security. nato formally handed the job over to afghan forces today. in kabul a to be priority now is passifying the taliban who were ousted from power after 9/11. president hamid karzai saying peace talks with the taliban will take place soon in do

doha kutar. 66 combat troops still remain in afghanistan. the fbi and new york police want your help. they are taking a new look at the unsolved attack on a military recruiting office in time square. they have just now released this never seen surveillance video. cnn's mary snow is tracking the story for us in new york. mary? >> reporter: brooke, five years after a bombing in time square that remains unsolved, the fbi is making a new push to find answers. it's turning to the public and social media for answers offering a $65,000 reward and releasing new surveillance video in the hopes someone will come forward with information. the small bombing took place in 2008 outside a u.s. military recruiting station. fortunately, no one was injured. the fbi says the person behind it may be linked to two similar incidents. one blast at the british consulate in 2005 and another in

2007 near the mexican consulate. all the bombings happened in the middle of the night and the person who detonated the explosives was riding a bicycle. the fbi says the devices used were similar. they were all made with military grade ammunition cans, black powder and a time fuse. a federal law enforcement source tells cnn's susan candiotti that the bomb in times square was stronger than the device detonated during the boston marathon in terms of destructive capability but unlike boston it contained no shrapnel. authorities did recover the bicycle shortly after the time square incident but the fbi would not comment about whether they were able to obtain any forensic evidence from that bike. brooke? >> mary snow, thank you. in one neighborhood crime is on the rise so they're being forced to defend themselves. you're going to hear about this thing called the glock block. why neighbors warn they're not calling 911. plus, a new tip regarding

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digging for jimmy hoffa day two. we'll show it to you here. that's where they're searching. somewhere in there they're looking for a shallow grave. this is oakland township mi michigan just about 20 miles north of the area where the teamster was last seen alive. it was sort of assumed he was rubbed out, as they say. susan candiotti is at the site. if this zarilli guy is right, but if this tipster is right, the story of hoffa's death, how he was killed, by whom, it begins to become a little more clear, correct? >> reporter: oh, absolutely. imagine all these years when we've never known what happened. this could be the solution, the answer that everyone has been seeking. again, if the information that this retired 85-year-old

mobster, he's done time himself for racketeering himself, he wants to clear his conscious and set things straight. if the truth is being told to him by his fellow mobsters, that means jimmy hoffa was led to this property that you see behind me. he was whacked up with a shovel and then buried alive under a concrete slab. here's an excerpt from a manuscript that this elderly man is working on that describes what he was told by fellow mobsters, that hoffa was, quote -- that fellow mobsters picked up a shovel and cracked hoffa over the head and then he goes on to say, and then hit hoffa a few more times and hoffa started to moan. they threw him in the hole and buried him, end of story. now, brooke, this information, again, is coming from a mobster who according to law enforcement sources is being treated as though he does, indeed, have something to say. certainly he has some pedigree, you could say, in the mob.

he's been around. he's got friends in high places. this is how the lawyer for his name is tony zerilli sums up how the fbi is looking at the information he's provided. >> the difference between this and the last digging is this is a man with credibility. this is a man that would be in the know. this is not some random guy who said oh, i think he's buried there. this was a man intimately involved with some of the players who would be well-informed as to where the body would be placed. >> what prompted him to come forward now? >> what prompted him to come forward? it's just something that he wanted to get done with that he's dealt with for a long time and he wanted to share where it was. >> n >>. >> reporter: now, brooke, this man has put a manuscript online, tony zerilli. he hasn't taken a polygraph but he wasn't asked to take a polygraph. they're hard at work over my

shoulder. they have the backhoe going. they're looking under the concrete slab. the lawyer says there was yet another concrete slab under there so, again, it's a wait and see period. we're waiting to see how long it will take them to clear this area and they have forensic anthropologists standing by from michigan state university ready to test any samples that might be taken. >> susan candiotti, we will stay in close touch to you. susan, thank you. we will have much more on our breaking news out of ohio. i told you about this horrendous crime. we will speak live about this woman and her child who were just discovered after being held captive for two years. the attorney general calling this modern day slavery. details next.

want to get you back to the breaking story here out of ashland, ohio. two hours away from cleveland. we have learned a woman and her child are free now after being held captive for two years. this is according to our affiliate, woio. here's what we know. this happened, as i mentioned, in ashland, ohio. at least three people under

arrest for what prosecutors are calling modern day slavery. investigators say the suspects forced the mother to hit her child while it was being videotaped. we're also told the suspects threatened to show police the video if she ever tried to talk, and according to the charges the suspects used beatings, pit bulls, snakes, and threats of death to keep them from running. we're told the mom and the child are recovering. just to try to get a little bit more on this case is ashland police chief david marcelli. chief marcelli, thank you so much for jumping on the phone for me. i know this is a federal case. i know you can't answer a lot. can you give me a brief update on the health conditions of mom and child? >> the mother is in the custody of -- or, i'm sorry, the daughter is in the custody of children services at this point

and the mother is -- she's been out from her jail sentence for a while. i'm not sure exactly what her whereabouts are. i know she's safer than she had been. >> i'm sorry, she was out from her jail sentence. what do you mean by that? >> well, she was originally charged as well as part of this case. >> how -- how was she charged as part of this case if, according to these allegations, she was held captive by three suspects along with her daughter? just trying to fill in the blanks here, sir. >> well, the -- the condition of the child when the child was in her care -- >> i see. >> -- necessitated a criminal charge as part of the state complaint that had developed into this federal case once the seriousness, nature of the allegations came forth. we contacted the fbi and they

contacted the united states attorney and that was shortly after the suspects were indicted. they've been working together with detective from my agency. >> can you give me, chief, an idea of the time line? when were these two -- when was the mother and the daughter found? how were they found? >> october of last year the mother was charged with shoplifting and the officers that took that complaint detected that there was other issues aside from the shoplifting. we've had numerous involvements with these -- this group of people and because they were astute enough and paid attention to what the woman was saying they picked up that there was something wrong and in the

course of that investigation and through the course of interviewing her they discovered the rest of these facts slowly. >> i see. so this woman, thank goodness she was shoplifting for her sake. so she was shoplifting for the people who had held her captive and she, based upon the astuteness of people around, realized something was a little fishy, started asking questions and that is how you're saying that she was found and then she -- >> correct. it was a long process of developing information and corroborating testimony from other individuals that had seen what had gone on but had not reported it. the detectives and the fbi agent involved in this worked well together and did a great job of tracking these folks down and illiciting this information. >> how long had she been missing? how long was she allegedly

kidnapped? >> she really wasn't missing, she just was living with those folks and the condition under which she was living was not made known to anyone other than some of the inner circle of the group. >> so she was on her own free will living with these suspects -- >> yes. >> -- who were allegedly beating her and frightening her with pith bulls and snakes. doesn't make sense to me. >> well, the case is what it is and we can only go with what the facts are. >> you said that these suspects were indicted. what are the charges they're facing? >> the state charges were subsequently dropped as a result of the new federal charges so i'm not sure where -- what the status is of that. but for the federal charges you have to contact the u.s. attorney. >> okay. we'll do that. was she -- when she apparently willingly started living with this group of individuals, was she with her daughter at the

time? >> correct. >> she was with her daughter at the time. what more can you share about this story? >> i really can't go into any details. it's the u.s. attorney's case at this point and i'm really not at liberty to share any of that without their approval. >> i want to ask a couple of questions. i know it's the u.s. attorney's office who is calling this modern day slavery. david marcelli, ashland, ohio, police chief. thank you so much. we appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up next, a study that's getting everyone's attention. a connection between autism and pollution. we'll explain that. plus, more breaking news today. chrysler making a big move after refusing to agree to a government recall. stay right here. this is kevin. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for him, he's agreed to give it up. that's today? [ male announcer ] we'll be with him all day as he goes back to taking tylenol. i was okay, but after lunch my knee started to hurt again.

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let's talk business. breaking news here. chrysler and the government have resolved their standoff after

requests that chrysler recall jeep grand cherokees and liberties. safety experts say the models are at risk of catching fire when hit from behind. alison kosik is standing by with more on this and why the change of heart, allison? >> that's a really good question. it looks like chrysler is getting with the program. the federal regulators, national highway traffic safety administration had requested that chrysler recall 2.7 million vehicles, those jeep grand cherokees and liberties because of the risk of fire but chrysler said that its findings were incomplete and it didn't agree with what these regulators had said. in fact, it came down to the final hours that chrysler had until midnight tonight to formally respond to this recall request and surprise. chrysler said we're going to go ahead and do this recall in its press release saying they're going to do these visual inspections voluntarily and if

necessary provide an upgrade to the rear structure of the vehicle to basically fix the problem. chrysler agreeing with -- or apparently agreeing with federal regulators that this recall had to be done but it's been quite a saga because there has been a lot of back and forth. chrysler has pushed back so this is a surprise move here, brooke. >> yeah, we did this story before. it's been since 1996 that car manufacturers have stood up to the federal government, i should say. quickly then, if we're talking 2.7 million jeeps, what is kn s nhtsa's advice? >> the best advice, call your chrysler vehicle. i think we put up a full screen of the vehicles involved, 1993 to 2002 vehicles of i'm not sure which model that was. go ahead and bring your vehicles in. >> here we go. >> have them inspected. so have them inspected. if chrysler does see that there's a problem there, they are saying that they are voluntarily changing out what needs to be changed out and fix

the problem, brooke. >> alison kosik, thank you very much. if we blew through that and you didn't catch the models, go to cnn.com and we'll have all of that for you there. now to all of you pregnant women. listen up. where you live may determine if your child has autism. researchers say they now have some pretty good evidence that air pollution and developmental problems such as autism are linked. senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen joining me. wow, pollution. >> yes. the causes of autism, it's been such a mystery. >> yeah. >> who would have thought pollution, right? but this study, it's a big study, people. we showed it to, they liked it. it's not definitive but it does seem to say something. they looked to 22,000 births and what they -- 22,000 women, actually, and what they found is that the women that lived in the most polluted areas, they were twice as likely to have a child with autism. so we're looking specifically at diesel. that seemed to be an issue. a lot of car exhaust and also

things like heavy metals, lead, mercury seems to be an issue. >> like where specifically? just any -- >> yeah, exactly. there were cities sort of all over the united states. >> okay. >> different parts of different cities. >> interesting. >> it's all about the pollution. >> as you mentioned, it is such a mystery. what does cause autism? >> they still don't know. we can add this to the things that might cause it or influence whether a child develops autism. for example, parental age. older parents seem to mean that there's more of a chance that the child will have autism. that's another thing. when women take certain drugs while pregnant, more likely to have a child with autism. if you live in a polluted city doesn't guarantee you'll have a child with autism, thank goodness. >> if you are a woman living in an uber polluted city, you don't move, you want to get pregnant. >> right. it's tough. you can put certain types of air filters in your home and that can help. you can stay inside during the times of the greatest traffic,

especially during the summer when it's really hot. so there are a few things. even things like taking your shoes off at the door. don't trom p around the house. >> that really does make a difference? >> it can make a difference. i wouldn't say it makes a gigantic difference but it does make a difference. >> elizabeth cohen, thank you very much. coming up, angelina jolie's decision to have that preventive mastectomy. not sitting well with one celebrity. we'll tell you who this is after the short break. [ male announcer ] erica had a rough day. there was this and this. she got a parking ticket... ♪ and she forgot to pay her credit card bill on time. good thing she's got the citi simplicity card. it doesn't charge late fees or a penalty rate. ever. as in never ever. now about that parking ticket. [ grunting ] [ male announcer ] the citi simplicity card is the only card that never has late fees, a penalty rate, or an annual fee, ever. go to citi.com/simplicity to apply.

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singer melissa etheridge says she doesn't agree with angelina's recent decision to go under the knife. jolie opted to have a double mastectomy when she found out she has the gene.

ette ridge was giving an interview and when asked about jolie's announcement, the final question of the interview. this is her whole answer, quote, i have to say i feel a little differently. i have that gene mutation too. it's not something i would believe in for myself. i wouldn't call it the brave choice. i actually think it's the most fearful choice you can make, she goes on, when confronting anything with cancer. my belief is that cancer comes from inside you and so much of it has to do with the environment of your body, it's the stress that will turn that gene on or not. plenty of people have the gene mutation and everything but it never comes to cancer so i would say to anybody faced with that, that choice is way down the line on the spectrum of what you can do and to really consider the advancements we've made in things like nutrition and stress levels. i've been cancer free for nine years now and looking back i completely understand why i got cancer. there was so much acidity in everything.

i really encourage people to go a lot longer and further before coming to that conclusion. that was the full statement just so we're not taking anything out of context here. melissa etheridge underwent her own cancer treatment. remember this? making the memorable appearance at the 2005 grammy awards when she took the stage without hair, she was bald, from chemotherapy. author and analyst edie hill joins us from austin, texas. edie, good to see you. >> good to see you, too. >> we reached out to melissa etheridge. they have released the statement to cnn saying this, quote, i don't have any opinion of what she should have done. all are free to choose, i only objected to the term brave describing it. edie, we are coming to you. you are a breast cancer survivor. you have had a preventive double mastectomy. i hear you chomping at the bit to get in on this. what do you make of these comments? >> i -- i was speechless was the

first thing and then ticked because you know what, it's not about being fearful at all. she's missing it totally. this is the bravest choice i think a mother can make. if you know anything about angelina jolie, if you read her op ed in "the new york times", i think it's very clear that one of the main reasons she made this choice is because of her concern for her children. she department want them to be without a mother. i mean, think about what that would do to a child, and that's how i looked at it when i made my choice to have the preventive double mastectomy. it was do i want my kids having to suffer through seeing my like this? how can i raise myself properly if i'm trying to go through chemo and recover for months and months and months? i watched my mother deal with breast cancer. i watched her then come out of having a double mastectomy, and i can tell ya, if you can take any part of that away as a mom, you do it. and so i don't think -- that was melissa etheridge's choice, but i think her choice to people that it is stress and nutrition

is flat out nuts. that's all it is. >> i'm not a doctor. i can't respond to that. i do know there was fear after the angelina jolie op ed and i think it was brave of her to pin that. there was fear that many women would run out to their doctors though because angelina jolie opted to remove her breasts and other women, i've talked to them on the show -- >> so what? >> opting, opting to remove her uterus. etheridge, this is way down the line on the spectrum of what you can do. just because you have this gene mutation doesn't mean definitively you will get it. that's the other side of the argument. >> no. right. just guessing, i don't think that angelina jolie woke up and said, you know what, i've got that gene, i'm going to have a double mastectomy, i'll see ya after dinner. her concern was taking control. that is not fear, that is a

powerful woman. >> edie hill, you took control. you have been through it. what is your advice to people who do discover they have this gene? >> i believe, like melissa does, that everybody has to make their own choice, but you weigh so many things into that. your family history, your doctor's opinion, your family situation. i mean, can you afford to go through that sort of experience going through chemo and radiation? you know, do you have the strength? do you have the support to do that? if not and if you feel and your doctor feels that you're at an advanced risk level and you can do this, why the heck not? why not? just because i don't feel like having the pain of an operation or the hassle of recovery, that's selfish. i'm doing it because it's for my children. it's for their future and for a cohesive family. i'm not going to leave my husband to raise our kids alone of the it's not fear, it is bravery. i believe that it is absolute consideration for the needs of your family. >> e.d. hill, thank you so much

from austin, texas. appreciate it. good to see you. coming up, the trial of whitey bulger. explosive testimony from a man known as the executioner describing in detail some of the hits the reputed mob boss is allegedly on the hook for. we'll take you live to boston next. hey. they're coming. yeah. british. later. sorry. ok...four words... scarecrow in the wind... a baboon... monkey? hot stew saturday!? ronny: hey jimmy, how happy are folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico? jimmy: happier than paul revere with a cell phone. ronny: why not? anncr: get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more.

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brazil. the demonstrations are spotlighting the tough challenges facing this country now getting ready to host the 2014 world cup and in 2016 the summer olympic games. shasta darlington is in san paulo. >> reporter: brooke, brazil is bracing for another protest in san paulo. they were mostly peaceful, especially here in san paulo. we went out on the streets. there were more than 60,000 people singing, cheering, even people in cars who were going to be stuck in traffic for hours were there honking and cheering them on. now this started as a protest against the hiking bus fares, but it's really snowballed into something bigger. we hear brazilians demanding accountability from the government, demanding an end to government corruption saying they feel they spend so much and get so little in return especially when it comes to big

sporting events, the world cup, while at the same time public transportation is a mess and almost nonexistent in some places. unfortunately, not all of the protests in brazil were as peaceful as the one we saw in san paulo. in rio de janeiro protesters were throwing molotov cocktails. they were aggressive with the police. in the brazilian capital you saw hundreds if not thousands of them standing on the roof of congress. the president came out today praising the peaceful aspect of most of these protests and saying that it's a sign of a stronger democracy. we'll see where that takes us tonight, brooke. >> shasta darlington, thank you. coming up. >> people in one neighborhood say crime has gotten so bad they're forced to take crime into their own hands. taking up arms. they're calling their area the glock block. we'll tell you what local police have to say about that next.

there is this neighborhood south of portland, oregon, that is arming itself against petty crime. so says a lady who is printing up flyers calling her street a glock block. local law enforcement doesn't like the idea. we'll get into that. first, have a look at your self. this report from cnn affiliate

koin. >> reporter: the clack ka muss county sheriff says they have seen a spiking crime. >> we don't feel neighborhood watch is sufficient and we don't feel the sheriff's office is sufficient. >> she says she and her neighbors are worried that deputies are too busy responding to other emergencies and can't respond to property crimes. just the other day -- >> i was having a cup of coffee out my window there looking out and i noticed this fellow. >> reporter: there was a man stealing this statue. coy tried to chase after but the thief got away. now neighbors want to take matters into their own hands and are even considering posting these signs warning this is a glock block, that some neighbors are armed ready to protect their property. >> gun ownership is a right, there's no doubt about that, but it comes with a lot of dangers. >> reporter: the sheriff's

office says they understand the frustration and wish they could be everywhere at once. they warn of the unintended consequences. they would rather have them working with a crime prevention specialist. they warn anyone who wants to have a gun for their neighborhood patrol needs to understand the law. >> that has dangers. you can get disarmed. the weapon can be used against you. now the local sheriff's department seems to dispute this notion of a spike in crime in that particular neighborhood. we reached out and a spokesman told us from january 1st to june 16th they have had six crimes reported within a quarter mile of that heat packing residence. six reported crimes is half the number from the same time period late last year according to the clakemus county sheriff's department. coming up, radio shock jobs fired for making a joke,

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ball at a college world series game, but she lets everybody know exactly how excited she is. unfortunately during her epic celebration she smacks this little guy and sends fruit punch flying in his face and that is today's hit play. secrets no more. the feds defending the nsa surveillance program now revealing that they helped disrupt more than 50 terror attacks including a plot against the new york stock exchange. i'm brooke baldwin. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com a new study suggests a link between autism and pollution. and a search suddenly heats up for the times square bike bomber. new video services of a person who tried to bomb a military station in gotham. plus, shock jobs fired for their jokes about someone with

lou gehrig's disease. is it fair? and pursuing a cold case. crews exhuming the body of a girl found decapitated 30 years ago. you'll hear why it's happening right now. and we continue on hour two. thanks for being with me. i'm brooke baldwin. breaking news out of ohio. a woman and her child are free after being held captive for two years. here is what we're learning. this all happened in a place called ashland, ohio. about two hours south of cleveland. at least three people are under arrest as we learned last hour now facing federal charges for what prosecutors are calling modern day slavery. investigators say the suspects forced the mother to hit her child while it was being videotaped. we are also told the suspects threatened to show police the video if she ever tried to talk. it gets worse.

according to these charges, the suspects used beatings, pit bulls, snakes, and threats of death to keep them from running. we're told the mom and the child are recovering right now. i talked to the ashland police chief, david marcelli just a short time ago. >> october of last year the mother was charged with shoplifting and the officers that took that complaint dete detected that there was other issues aside from the shoplifting. we've had numerous involvements with these -- this group of people and because they were astute enough and paid attention to what the woman was saying, they picked up something was wrong. and during the course of that investigation and through the course of interviewing her they

discovered the rest of these facts slowly. >> in talking to that police chief they told me the suspects were indicted today. they are facing federal charges. we're going to get to that information as soon as we get it here in to us at cnn. the evidence is public that u.s. government snooping works to stop terrorists. this has gone now way beyond meta data, numbers crunching, officials talking in general terms. folks, we have names, faces and targets. details were declassified and put on the capitol hill hearing. leaders of the fbi named four separate plots that they say were thwarted because of the surveillance programs that a lot of critics are calling a mass invasion of privacy. it is just four they say of many more. >> in recent years the information gathered from these programs provided the u.s. government with critical leads to help prevent over 50 potential terrorist events and

more than 20 countries around the world. >> okay. so here are the plots that were stopped. first up, new york subway an intercepted e-mail from zazi who confessed to a plot. this one they were led to khalid ouazzani. next danish newspaper, nsa found that they were going to bomb a newspaper that published cartoons. this one the fbi closed and nsa reopened it. officials said the u.s. was able to, quote, unquote, disrupt terrorist activity. this is four with some 50 plus plots. i want to go to two strong voices on what the nsa has been doing. julie myers wood is a former

assistant security -- homeland -- i don't think it's security. i think it should be secretary of homeland security, forgive me. >> that's all right, brooke. >> hello. typo. and ben ferguson, radio host of the show the ben ferguson show. welcome back to both 6 you. i know we did this one day last week. we wanted to follow up and come kind of full circle. ben ferguson, you're up at bat first. >> yeah. >> did the government today reveal too little or too much? >> i don't think that they did really either of those things. i think the american people are looking to these leaders and saying, okay, can you show us legitimate cause and make our fears be calmed down by showing us that in fact you are using this information for good instead of just targeting americans and my phone records? i'm not sure they did enough today to somehow make people feel more safe or feel more comfortable with these programs. some of the information they talked about today i think a lot

of americans are going to say this is captain obvious information. of course we know the government is attacking and trying to protect americans and interests in bombings and everything else but you still didn't speak to what are you doing with all of our information and are you keeping it? more importantly, are there people in the government that can abuse this information? >> so you're stilg frustrated with the -- with just the simple act of what they've been doing for the last seven years versus the fact that, you know, perhaps a lot of fears are allayed today because these plots have been foiled because of this program? you're still stuck on that? i just want to make sure i'm hearing you clearly. >> i'm stuck on the fact that it still seems like there's not enough information on what they're doing with information. >> you want more information? >> yeah. most americans feel the same way. we expect you to go after information connected to terrorists, but i don't think the majority of americans feel as if this is a targeted program. it's too broad reaching and it's taking everyone's information, specifically those that have no

connection to terrorism. >> okay. julie, you've defended the program. what do you make of the news that came out today? >> i think the news was very significant. they're talking about 50 plots, some very significant plots that have been disrupted. i think one of the most important things is that there was an investigation that was shut down and then reopened because of this program. i agree with ben, that the story's not over. we should continue to have more explanations. we should continue to explore whether or not our laws are strong enough but i think the news this morning was very encouraging, frankly, to see all the things and all the ways they've used this information to protect america. >> now i know there are people out there and i talked to a former cia operative last hour. my question was this was four plots out of 50 plus plots, do you think the american people should trust the government? should we, julie? >> i mean, i think there's a lot of mistrust in the government overall based on some of the

activities that have happened the last couple of years. you can't blame folks like ben for being frustrated. at the same time i think general alexander had a great point this morning when he said we can't divulge all of the details. if we do that, we're giving them too much information. >> brooke, i think one of the interesting things is if you asked the american people if they trusted the four individuals that are sitting there in front of congress today, i think the majority of americans would say yes. the problem is they're not the ones that are actually day in and day outgoing through mining this information. and that's where that core issue of trust comes up is can i trust the people that work under you to not abuse this power and use it for possible political reasons which we saw with the i.r.s.? this administration right now has a major trust issue with the american people and that's something they have not experienced before. >> hang on. let me just jump in because i think a layer to this story is also the timing. last night there was the big interview, president of the united states sitting down with

charlie rose on pbs, full transparency, that was taped before the president left for ireland. let's first listen to a quick sound bite. here they were. >> i stood up a privacy and civil liberties oversight board, including some fierce lib b libertaria libertarians. i'll be meeting with them. what i want to do is set up and structure a national conversation. >> so -- hang on. hang on. here he is. he's defending the nsa program. let me get to my point. you had this hearing last night and less than 24 hours later you have an intricately orchestrated hearing with all of this detail. obviously no coincidence, julie. what do you make of this? >> what can we connect? what can we show that has been disrupted based on these programs? really tried to build that case. but i thought the president's point about the privacy was very

significant. that's a board that's been frankly quite inactive. i think it's interesting that now he's going to bring this board together and now use this board in a different way. let's see what that board is going to do in this instance. >> i hear you, ben. what's your but? >> boards mean nothing. the proof is the president appointed a job creation board that met a total of zero times so i don't think that's going to make the american people go, oh, well you picked some of your buddies and they're now on this board and that's going to fix our problem. he had a job creation board and they never even met before he dissolved it. so i don't think people think a citizen board is going to be able to figure out what's going too far, maybe what's not going too far when you're dealing with the nsa for goodness sakes. >> julie, i want you to respond to that. >> thank you. this is a bipartisan board. these individuals have terms that last over several years. we can't just rely on the board. that's one piece. we need congress to look at the laws.

we need the fiser court and congress. together they can create appropriate controls. >> thanks as always. we'll see you again i'm sure soon. just in to us. more on our breaking story. we have just learned that chrysler and the u.s. governments have resolved their standoff over the request that chrysler recall more than 2.5 million jeep grand cherokees and jeep liberties. they're at risk of catching fire when hit from behind. i want to bring in both alison kosik and renee marsh. first, alison, the news. why did this happen? >> the stare down that's been happening between government regulators and chrysler is over. after this ongoing saga, chrysler finally agreed to inspect these vehicles and if necessary it's agreed to provide an upgrade to fix the problem. this is a recall of 2.7 million vehicles. here's which vehicles they are. it's the 1993 through 2004 jeep grand cherokees and the 2002

through 2007 jeep liberty. now one thing chrysler continues to say even though it's going to go with the program and do what the national highway traffic transportation safety administration wants, nhtsa, it's going to go along and do what nhtsa wants, chrysler will say these vehicles are not defective. in fact, from the beginning of all of this chrysler has said nhtsa's conclusions were based on an incomplete analysis of the data. it says that the chrysler group recognizes that this matter has raised concerns for its customers and what chrysler wants to do is take further steps to provide additional measures to supplement the safety of its vehicles. there you go. people will be able to go ahead and bring their cars in. >> let's talk about the further steps. renee, what if you are the owner or driver of one of these 2 point poip 7 million jeeps. what do you do? >> i can tell you, chrysler is saying that if you do own one of these jeeps, you will be notified to bring your vehicle

in for an inspection. once you do that they'll give it a visual inspection and they will determine whether you get that upgrade. so you're asking what is the upgrade that will be made to the vehicles in question? well, i'm told that the upgrade that both parties agreed to is a trailer hitch. so when you think about a vehicle, you see that little metal piece on the back of the vehicle if you want to drag a trailer or something like that? that is what we're talking about. i spoke with one expert who says this could actually help. essentially the thought is that will add some support to the rear of the vehicle. that added support hopefully would prevent another fiery crash. that same expert is saying that this is a band aid approach to an already bad situation. think about it, it's an old vehicle. they can't move the tank anywhere else. this is the best case scenario. >> rene marsh, alison kosik.

if you need to go back through some of the vehicles go to cnn.com for that information. coming up, this is a story that has people across the country divided. three sports talk radio hosts fired after what they said about a former nfl player living with lou gehrig's disease. did they go too far? we will talk to one of the fired d.j.s about what they said and he will join us in studio 7. do not miss that. plus, a look at an old murder case. police exhume the body of a young girl killed three decades ago looking for new leads. plus, we'll talk to a man who is one of the first investigators to the scene and is still working to find this killer. ay. hi! hi, buddy! that's why the free wifi and hot breakfast are something to smile about. book a great getaway now and feel the hamptonality

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the year was 1983. a little girl's body was found in a vacant building in clemons, missouri. she had been sexually assaulted, strangled and decapitated. authorities hoped someone would recognize her clothes. she was never identified and her killer was never found. police would only say she was

african-american, was somewhere between 8 and 11 years old. this unidentified girl was buried and over the years, three decades to be precise, the cemetery became abandoned and run down. in 2009 police went to exhume her body so they could give her a proper burial, but they couldn't find the body. now with the help of old photographs of the cemetery, they have now recovered this body, exhumed this body. and the st. louis city medical examiner's office hopes it can use modern technology to finally identify this little girl and find the killer. cold case investigator and former st. louis police detective joe bergoon is joining us. nice to see you. my goodness, you were one of the original detectives working this case. here we are 30 years later. how does that sit with you? >> well, it's been a while. it's been quite a while. different leads came in and new

detectives took the case over. we kept in contact. and there's also the original captain, commanding officer at the time, he was retired as a colonel, leroy atkins. he's still alive and he's still interested in this case. >> so here they have 30 years later exhumed this little girl's body based on here we are in 2013, new technology that will be used to try to identify her. can you tell me a little bit about how they're hoping to do that? >> well, basically the plan from what i understand is they want to ship her body down to university of north texas in fort worth, texas, who is part of the namas initiative. part of the federal government for unidentified dead. trying to identify this child. >> take me back to the very beginning. here's this little girl found with just, what, a t-shirt,

decapitated. >> she had a yellow v-neck sweater. >> you remember it that well. how -- how -- how invest the in this case have you been over years? >> well, we -- you know, we tried to stay -- we do stay interested. we tried and had the fbi involved with their vicap program and we used to send out teletypes every year on the anniversary of her death to see if any department had a similar crime. this was sent throughout the united states. >> hopefully, detective, they will be able to identify her with this new technology and, thus, track down the person who did this to her. joe burgoon in texas. thanks so much. >> you're welcome. day two of testimony from the man, the executioner. he's describing specific details

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in the trial of the reputed mob boss, james whitey bulger, the man described as bulger's partner in crime takes the stand for a second day. he is john morano. one of the first top associates to take the stand and he is revealing gritty details. back in 2008 while bulger was still on the run this guy talked to cbs's "60 minutes." >> did you keep count of how many people you killed? >> no. no. no. until in the end i never realized it was that many. >> how many? >> a lot. too many. >> do you have a number? >> i confessed to 20 in court. >> are you sure you remembered them all? >> i hope so. >> did you always kill people by

shooting them? >> i think i stabbed one guy. >> but you like guns? >> well, it's the easiest way, i think. cnn's deborah feyerick is live in boston. deborah, you're inside the courtroom. what was it like? what details are you learning? >> reporter: brooke, you used the word gritty. at one point it was sickening. he had a change of heart after killing his 20th victim. this was one he killed for an oak businessman. he traveled to oklahoma city, picked up a suitcase that had been shipped by gray hound bus. it was filled with machine guns, masks, revolvers, then he met the businessman and shot him between the eyes. this is what he testified to. the friend was grateful, actually gave him $50,000 for

carrying out this hit, but then when bulger and others realized that the friend was talking about the murder, they decided it was too risky so they were going to have to take him out as well. he felt guilty about it. i felt really bad. i just killed a friend i had risked my life for in oak. what he did is he actually lured the friend to florida, picked him up at the airport and got into the back seat and killed him with a shot to the back of the head dumping his friend's body in the trunk of his own car. and listening to this he said that he was remorseful, that it is not something he wanted to do. killing was part of his business, brooke? >> what a trial, what a gritty trial to use your word to be covering it. we're following deborah feyerick in boston. radio shock jobs fired for using this.

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of a horrible on air comedy. what were they anything we're about to find out. steve shapiro is in the studio with me, one of those fired radio hosts. first, sarah began number explains what exactly happened. >> reporter: their radio show was called mayhem in the a.m. mayhem has backfired. they were fired monday for making fun of a former football player with lou gehrig's disease. >> knock knock, who's there. >> smother. >> smother who. >> smother me. do me a favor. >> reporter: they're mocking steve gleason. he speaks with the aid of a voice synthesizer. >> i was diagnosed with als two years ago. >> reporter: because of his condition he can't talk. the d.j.s apologized. one of them, chris dimino said it was sheer stupidity.

another, nick chililini said it was stupidity. shapiro said i am truly sorry. 790 the zone said the station in no way supports that kind of content. they're called shock jobs because they're paid to shock you. it's what gets the ratings, but they're not the first to be fired for taking it too far. >> so i watched the basketball game between a little bit of rutgers and tennessee, the women's final. that's some nappy headed hos there. >> reporter: in 1997 don imus was fired. jimmy the greek was fired for saying blacks are bred to be better athletes. >> if they take over coaching there's nothing left for the white people. >> reporter: on social media some came to their defense. you can't be funny unless sometimes you push and, yes,

cross the edge. family guy, south park, howard stern and even robin williams know this. and my guess is that many of the folks condemning chris have done worse. now this morning some of these guy's competitors in atlanta were sympathetic to what happened. they said, look, these guys their bosses push, push, push. live up to your name. when something goes wrong, when they push a little too far, they're the ones that get fired. brooke? >> sar sara ganum, thank you. steve shapiro is joining me in studio pulling up the chair. i am sure this has been an interesting 24 hours for you. i just have to ask the question on everyone's mind, what were you thinking? >> well, obviously we weren't thinking clearly or doing anything that made sentences sense. a lot of things you're doing on the fly. it was something that -- an ill

attempt at humor, offensive. if i was driving in my car i would have thought, who came up with that? that's not funny. i would have been offended. and, you know, obviously you walk a fine line between trying to be somewhat on the edge and making sure that you're tasteful enough and we blew it. we blew it in a huge way. and, you know, i just want to apologize to steve gleason, to his foundation, to all the folks that were hurt by this. i mean, it was an ill attempt at humor that absolutely fell short and the repercussion, you know, are something that happens, you know, when you're playing on that kind of edge. >> you have been on the air for 18 years, with this station for 15. you know on air and i'm just looking at you and you're shaking a little bit. >> yeah. >> has this shaken you to the core? >> well, look, you know, i'm used to coming to cnn to be commenting on folks. >> right. >> i'm not used to being part of

a story. of course it shakes you. i mean, look, it's not about feeling bad for what happened to us. i mean, the fact is if you're going to -- >> i'm not saying i am i'm just visibly noticing. >> well, it's a nerve racking thing to be a part of. i'm not saying feel bad for it. point is, it's not a good 24 hours. it's a horrible 24 hours and i feel awful about it and, you know, it just is something that you just deeply regret and wish it never happened. >> let me ask you this because you mentioned sometimes you come up with things on the fly. you're doing radio. what's the back story of this particular joke? how orchestrated was it? >> well, i mean, not to get into details too much. obviously, you know, we didn't think this thing through. it was commercial break. we had known that steve gleason had done an article for peter king that was a great piece, by the way. you know, anybody who knows my background knows the connection to new orleans and knowing a lot about that foundation so we were kind of talking about the peter king article and said -- >> this was in commercial break before you guys came on?

>> in commercial break, a few minutes, and then we decided to do a takeoff on that, which was stupid, which wasn't well thought out and which we're truly sorry for but, no, you know, i hate to think that we had thought about this a long time and still came up with what we did because that would really show a lot of ignorance. >> i have to ask though, was it the kind of thing where you delivered the joke and in that moment you immediately realized you had crossed the line or was it only after the tweet, the phone calls, the firing did you think, that was wrong? >> you know, that's a good question. i mean, i don't think anybody that's ever been in that situation knows right away and a lot of it is, you know, slowly, it's a -- slowly starts to build. but i knew it wasn't funny. i knew it wasn't coming off as it was coming off. >> so then why continue the joke? >> well, i mean, once -- i think the whole thing was two minutes long. you're doing a radio bit. we've done, you know, hundreds

and hundreds of them over the years and hopefully it would have been, you know -- i haven't had many that fall flat. it's something you shouldn't even go down that road. there's certain areas you should be smarter about. i understand the outrage. i'm not going to sit here and justify any bit about the fact that, hey, that's part of what we do every day. >> listen, i know people tune in to you and other shows for your personality and for what you say and for surely pushing the envelope. i'm curious, did you ever feel pressured from those above you to continue to push that envelope a little bit more? >> i don't think so. we're sports talk radio station. our first goal is to talk about sports. our first goal is to entertain people driving to work. our first job is to be entertaining, informative and engaging. a, if we're funny, if we come up with creative stuff which we have in the past, that's great. no, i didn't feel that pressure. the pressure is to try to do a good radio show. that wasn't a good moment. it was a horrible moment.

i don't feel like we have been pressed and pressed. i know what i do for a living. >> it was your own volition? >> yeah. absolutely. >> wasn't the boss. >> nobody's saying you have to get more controversial, you have to be registering more on twitter. i think at this stage of the game, i've been doing it long enough. you should have enough judgment. the only good thing i can say maybe positive that comes out of it is it is putting a lot of attention on a horrible disease. >> als? >> als is obviously horrific. any family that's ever dealt with it, i can't imagine a worse, you know, diagnosis than having to deal with that. the last thing anybody needs is to have three guys kind of driving home something that's not funny. so, you know, maybe there is on some level some positive that comes from it and that's the only thing you can hope for at this point. i mean, what else can you really say other than i'm sorry. >> right. >> ill-advised. not funny. and i'll make every effort to make up for it. >> final question to you is just

have you reached out to steve yet? >> yeah, i've reached out. i spoke to some folks at the foundation today and it's a private conversation. obviously they were well aware of it. thought it was a good conversation. and, you know, i think he's -- he is vacationing, i guess, with his wife as they do every summer and -- but, i mean, there's a lot more to do there. it's not just one phone call doesn't all of a sudden make things right. >> of course. i'm wondering if you talked with him? >> three hours ago i had a nice conversation relatively speaking. offered a sincere apology. i feel terrible about it. it's ironic because i have family in louisiana. got married in new orleans. my daughter is named noah. they're the most outraged, rightfully so. you want to talk about irony. you know, it's a place i understand their passions and the their heroes and to make fun of one of those is -- it's an awful thing. i feel awful about it.

>> steve shapiro, i thank you for coming on national television with all of that. thank you so much. >> okay. >> we've got to get a quick break in. when we come back we're going to talk to a radio host who comes on with us pretty often. we'll get his thought on this. what is fair game and what is not? at what point do hosts really cross the line? that conversation is next. uh-oguess what day it is!is?? huh...anybody? julie! hey...guess what day it is?? ah come on, i know you can hear me.

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all right. we just spoke exclusively to steve shapiro who very much so publicly mia culpaed. we're going to talk about the shock job culture on the radio. i want to bring in sirius radio personality, jay thomas.

you're a funny guy, veteran of radio. did these guys cross -- they crossed the line. >> they did a stupid bit. who sits in a room and says, well, we're going to do a joke about a guy with lou gehrig's disease? so they got fired for a bad joke. i'm going to tell you something, i checked their ratings this morning and they didn't look good. i have a funny feeling that they should have been suspended. this guy sounded very contrite. sounds like he's a nice guy. they made a big mistake. look, it wasn't a funny bit. i don't know their normal show. i have to think are their ratings good? are they number one? >> one of the top. one of the top, you know. they don't take "mike and mike." >> i'm very surprised. he was contrite. i'm in new orleans and people go, that was a dumb thing to say, but no one's yelling for them to get fired. so it's like, you know, the management reacts.

it's a terrible thing, stupid thing but, yeah, you make mistakes so they should have been off the air for a few days. they would have done benefits for als. they would have been better for it. the radio station would have been better for it. >> so do you think that they've gone too far. >> i'm a huge saints fan. >> what about for the 18 years, 15, whatever? come on. that's some management person overreacting to -- i mean, it's one of the reasons why a lot of us left terrestrial radio. you me it have gotten in trouble with that at sirius xm. the only person who has ever lost their job at sirius was someone from cnn or fox and they got fired by the time they got back to their television station. they don't deserve to be fired, but it's a terrible bit.

just a bad bit. wasn't funny. apologize to the guy. raise money. you feel sorry for him. who even thinks that that's funny is -- probably shouldn't be on the radio because they're no good. that's one reason. but i don't know. listen, you know how many bits have been done about steven hawkings on family guy. >> i thought about "family guy" earlier. >> exactly. >> exactly. i know. >> sure. >> at a point this crossed the line. i hear you. >> it didn't cross the line. it crossed the line but what happens is there was some focus on it and some general manager or vice president. look, you're in television, you know. >> yeah. yeah. >> listen, 10% of what happens in life is what happens. it's 90% of how you react to it. they've decided to react in this big, huge way. now they're out a morning team. they have to hire some new guys. these guys back on the air

apologetically, have steve gleason come on, they'll never do it again. they become a better morning team. >> we'll see what happens. we'll see what happens. >> i'm jesuit educated and i went to the seminary. you know, it's like, forgive. steve gleason is an icon around here. >> yeah. >> i'm a huge saints fan. we don't like atlanta at all. i don't even -- i don't even go to the atlanta airport. >> hey, listen, i understand why. >> no, during the football season, i don't go through the atlanta airport. >> i'm an atlanta native, jay thomas, and i take offense to that. >> i'm from new orleans. you know what, the thing is is of course, and this guy is apologizing and we're all sitting here and steve gleason said, okay, i'm on vacation and it's 1sad, he shouldn't have sad it. the foundation, you're telling me they were doing well in the ratings.

>> listen, i don't know how well their ratings are. we'll see. we'll see what ends up happening in their morning slot and what happens to these three guys. >> right. >> whatever happens beyond that. jay thomas, got to go. always great to get your perspective. >> thank you. bye. >> thank you so much. next we have more on our breaking news out of ohio. a woman and her daughter are free after being held captive for two years. we now know that the fbi held a news conference this afternoon. we are talking to a reporter in ohio who was there with those new details next. e been conditid to accept less and less in the name of style and sophistication. but to us, less isn't more. more is more. abundant space, available leading-edge technology, impeccable design, and more than you've come to expect from a luxury vehicle. the lexus es350 and epa-estimated 40 mpg es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection.

more on the breaking story out of ashland, ohio. a woman and her child are free after being held captive for two years. here's what we know now. again, happening in ashland, ohio, two hours south of cleveland. three people at least under arrest for what the attorney general here is calling modern day slavery.

investigators say the suspects forced the mother to hit the child while they were being videotaped. we're told the suspects threatened to show police the video if she ever tried to talk. new details coming out this afternoon. i want to go straight to scott taylor from our cnn affiliate woio live in cleveland. scott, i understand a news conference happened this afternoon. what did you learn? >> well, brooke, the three suspects, there's actually four, but they have three in custody now. they were just arraigned here in federal court and they did, according to investigators, hold this woman, a 30-year-old mom and her 6-year-old son and a large python. and even believe it or not a poisonous snake they kept as a pet. they made her clean for them. do laundry. yardwork.

she has a mental disability. she's now 30 years old, and they just would not let her leave, and unfortunately that went on for almost two years in ashland, ohio, which is about an hour and 15 minutes away from here, from downtown cleveland. >> scott, let me ask you this. i was talking to the ashland police chief last hour and he was telling me it sounded like this woman, i don't know if she knew the suspects but that she went almost on her own volition to this home and then they sort of kept her then. >> reporter: yeah. i think you're right. i did talk to the chief earlier this morning. he obviously gave you more information. they did, according to investigators, did make that videotape. forced her to make a videotape that showed her beating her child, and when police went to the suspect's house and asked them about this, they actually popped that video up and let police look at it, but it was pretty good police work here,

brooke. they quickly realized this videotape was forged. it was taped. so they started asking a lot more questions. and then she finally in october shoplifted to get in front of police, and police then realized what was going on in that house. >> awful all the way around. scott taylor, thank you so much. for affiliate woio out of cleveland. now for this. jimmy conway. now police are searching the home of the real mobster who in spired that character. we'll tell you what they're looking for next. we're back in 90 seconds. ith a energy cycle... cats. they were born to play. to eat. then rest. to fuel the metabolic cycle they were born to have, purina one created new healthy metabolism wet and dry. with purina one and the right activity, we're turning feeding into a true nature experience.

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the jimmy hoffa search going on in michigan isn't the only high-profile case going on with the mob. investigators say they're at the home of the late jimmy "the gent" burke. you may not represent his name but he was the real life inspiration for robert de niro's unforgettable character in "goodfellows." >> everybody gets pinched. you did it right. you told them nothing and they got nothing. >> i thought you'd be mad. >> you did right. i'm proud of you. you took it like a man and you learned two greatest things in rain shower life. never rat on your friends and also keep your mouth shut. >> cnn's jason carroll is

following the story for us today. jason, what's happening? >> we all remember that scene. >> great movie. >> yeah, great movie. robert de niro playing jimmy burke. the real jimmy burke dying 17 years ago in prison. still they're trying to track down the illegal activities he may have had a hand in. once again, i want to show you the real jimmy the burke. that is him there. fbi agents began searching his former home in queens on monday. it's now owned by his daughter. a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation tells me they are searching for possible unidentified human remains. the source also says investigators are looking for something that occurred before 1976. and while it's widely suspected he was part of the heist and buried the loot. remember whoever carry thad off made with $600 million in cash and jewels from the jfk cargo

building. sources also say he may have been allegedly involved in other activities so it may have nothing to do with the heist. in the movie he is accused of killing many of those who helped him carry out the heist. the reality is some of the people are still considered missing. he's accused of killing one, a street hustler, and back in 1985 burke was essentially sentenced to life in prison. it's one of those stories, brooke, that keeps on giving long after burke's death. >> it does, doesn't it? jason carroll, thank you so much. folks, it is do or die for the miami heat tonight. they could lose the championship to the spurs. rachel nichols is in miami. lucky girl. she's live with the preview next. we're back in 60 seconds.

game six of the miami heat. a loss and the spurs take home the nba championship. lebron james is trying to submit his legacy as one of the best players of all time. cnn sports rachel nichols is live for us in miami. so, rachel, if the spurs win, will the headlines be more their accomplishment or lebron losing? >> reporter: a little bit of both, but trust me, most people will be interested in lebron losing and spurs fans argue with that and they'll say, oh, the media doesn't like us because they're boring. they're not boring. they're dropping three-pointers all over. they're an exciting team. but the fact is lebron james is considered the best athlete in the country right now. he's the best basketball player on the planet. if he becomes the fourth nba champion, they'll want to know

why. is it his head? his heart? they know it's not his talent. he's only 28 years old. if they lose, there's no question he'll go back to the lab as they like to say and see what he can do going forward. tim duncan, who has a chance to win his fifth nba title tonight, which is really remarkable, well, two of those he already won, he won after the age of 28, which is lebron is now. still a lot of room to go for lebron james, but a lot of eyes seeing what is going to happen tonight and if he can pull this through, brooke. >> we'll be looking for the kbam, game six. rachel nichols for us in miami. thank you so much, rachel. and before i let you go, let me tell you. i sit here and read these tweets constantly. i appreciate you sending them to me. i read them all through the breaks. my twitter feed is absolutely blown up. i promise you we'll post that on the brooke blog, cnn.com/brooke.

let me know your opinion. the guy fired off an absolutely horrible joke. let me know your thoughts. should he have his job back? cnn.com/brooke. jake tapper is up next with "the lead." >> hey, everyone. this is what you unwittingly traded your private phone records for. i'm here with "the lead," the world lead. they monitored domestic phone records and e-mails. they reveal the specifics of how they claim they use the data to stop the terror system. did they have to do that? autism. could the answer be in the air that we breathe? a new study out today is bound to cause controversy. and