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sprinkled upon journalists who remain on this earth. michael, i will miss you. michael hastings was 33. that's it for the lead today. i'm jake tapper. now to jim accosta filling in for wolf blitzer in "the situation room with wolf blitze blitzer". >> thanks, jake. president obama makes history in what used to be communist east berlin. can he ease growing concerns about american surveillance? the midair explosion that sent twa flight 800 into the atlantic was no accident. there could have been an fbi drone. and would you like genetically modified ingredients with that burrito? what's happening at a major fast food chain that's coming clean. you're in "the situation room with wolf blitzer." i'm jim accosta.
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today president obama stood where the berlin wall once divided east and west where 50 years ago john f. kennedy once brought hope to isolated berliner berliners. it's not just what's in the president's speech making headlines but his administration's policy on surveillance. chief white house correspondent jessica yellin is live from there. this makes for tricky diplomacy. >> it does, jim. no doubt president obama would have preferred delivering a speech about big ideas and his vision for the future. instead he found himself explaining his own surveillance programs to the germans, a people who are especially sensitive to state surveillance. he did it all off the hard copy of his speech, his teleprompter went down. in the heart of berlin, president obama sought his place in history. >> it's so warm.
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i feel so good that i'm going to take off my jacket. >> reporter: speaking on the east side of the brandenburg gate where germany was once divided. >> we can be a little bit more informal among friends. >> reporter: kennedy famously spoke at the gate. >> ich bein ein berlinder. >> reporter: and president reagan. >> mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. >> reporter: but the comparison president obama can't escape is to his own speech five years ago. >> we will not leave our children to a world where the oceans rise and famine spreads and terrible storms devastate our lands. >> reporter: at a site just blocks away then candidate obama drew a cheering crowd of 200,000. so massive it inspired this attack ad called celebrity. >> is he ready to lead? >> reporter: the estimated size
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of today's crowd much smaller. close to 4500 invited guests. he's lost some of his luster here in part by continuinging some of president bush's counter terror policies. >> it means tightly controlling our use of new technologies like drones. >> reporter: drones, guantanamo bay, now nsa surveillance. in germany where memories of the secret east german police are still fresh, fears of nsa snooping are especially intense. so the president offers reassurances. >> this is not a situation in which we are rifling through the ordinary e-mails of german citizens or american citizens or french citizens or anybody else. >> reporter: in sweeping terms he insisted this debate is what democracy is all about. >> that's what makes us different from those on the other side of a wall.
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>> reporter: his big announcement, an effort to cut the world supply of nuclear arms by one-third. >> so long as nuclear weapons exist, we are not truly safe. >> reporter: and the big message -- >> the wall belongs to history. we have history to make as well. the heroes that came before us now call to us to live up to those highest ideals. >> reporter: as you may have noticed in the video, the president spoke from behind high bullet proof glass. there was intense security presence and it seemed visibly higher than when he was in berlin as a candidate. also more intense than when president clinton spoke here. visibly put the president at a distance from the audience. interestingly even as he delivered a message that we are all part of one global community. jim? >> challenging stage crafting there. hope you get a chance to enjoy some of berlin.
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president obama crossed over into the former east berlin. the first delay and their daughters honored those who died trying to cross oh east to west placing flowers in a berlin wall memorial. they honored millions of jews who perished at the hands of nazis. joining me now on this important trip a lot of news in the trip. cnn chief political analyst lori borjer and candy crowley of "state of the union." you heard the president touch on winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan. he talked about a lot of subjects -- aids. this was obviously about his legacy. this whole issue of surveillance did get in the way. >> it did get in the way. he mentioned it artfully in this speech as about the balance
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between security and liberty. i think what is ironic to me is presidents now have to go abroad to give. the president may do a speech on that, who knows. at this setting where the j.f.k. spoke and reagan and the rest. this was a moment to say -- if this were a perfect world, ace he did five years ago, if this were a perfect world we'd take care of climate change, eradicate nuclear weapons. we would deal with human rights. >> a lot of issues. >> we would find the balance between security and liberty. he has to say it in germany and we report on it and tell it to the american public. >> one moment that jumped out at me during the speech was he
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seemed to be talking about syria. i do think it was an interesting moment. if it was something. >> it winds into his speech in berlin. remember, he came and part of what it was is i'm not going to be the guy that's in there now. i'm going to be the new person. he took -- he didn't campaign while he was over there. his most famous line in the speech was i come as a citizen of the world. it was will more like this all encompassing, we're not going to do it on our own. we are not going to start wars on behalf of the u.s. it was interesting he felt the
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need to be defensive about this. >> he's been demoted. he's not a rock star in germany. >> not the biggest star in the world. >> he had 200,000 people in grant park when he won the first election and several thousand in chicago when he won the second. >> is it fair to make the comparison, do you think? >> it's as predictable as can be. there is candidate full of promises. then there is the president who brings a record. those are different things. they still like him. a lot of stuff comes with not
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having to fulfill the promises that made him popular. gitmo is one of them. >> that was a big applause line. >> part of the speech is saying i'm still the same person you loved and adored when i was here before as a candidate. >> is he trying too hard? >> the president never seems to try too hard, right? this is part of his cool demeanor. i think he was saying i still have the vision. i am president of the united states. things intervene such as the surveillance issue, guantanamo. >> talk about taking out oh osama bin laden. >> you know, his overall rub rick was, look, we have to find a way to get to peace with justice. kept coming back to the theme he wants to be remembered by. >> the way to look at the president's speeches from here on out is through the prism of
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good-bye. >> it's early in the administration. >> he's not going to get back to berlin. this is the prism of good-bye. you will hear it a lot. >> this is his bookend to the speech as far as germany is concerned and europe. >> the fact that angelaer merkel talked about surveillance with president obama, he's had this happen to him a couple of times now in the world stage. putin said we disagree on syria. when he was talking about chinese leader it was, hey, you're hacking, too. what do you make of that? >> i think his relationships with some of the leaders aren't as close as he might have expected them to be. don't forget. he's taking merkel to task on her austerity budget as well. he wishes it weren't so austere. this isn't the first disagreement they have had. she's running for re-election.
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she has to let her public know she's taking on the president on this sur lay vance issue because people in their country were listened in on. it's not popular there. she had to do it as much for her political. >> someone in the intelligence community understands how the program worked who said, you don't think europe is happy with the information they are getting from us? it's one thing they say in public. it's been helpful. it has saved lives. what you hear in public isn't necessarily what they think in private. the fact of the matter is that presidents get dense. they are not campaigners. it has to be looked at through
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the prism of re-election. >> all politics are. as we know. coming up, 1 years after twa flight 800 blew up and plunged into the atlantic, a new film says the official government report on the crash is wrong. what's in your burrito? it's a good question. chipotle says many ingredients are the products of gene tweaking. ♪ [ mom ] for big girl jobs there's bounty select-a-size. it's the smaller powerful sheet. one select-a-size sheet of bounty is 50% more absorbent than a full size sheet of the leading ordinary brand. use less with bounty select-a-size. [ gasps ] [ laughter and chuckles ] ♪
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renee marsh has more on this very interesting story. these would be pretty big revelations. >> absolutely. twa flight 800 was some 13,000 feet in the sky when it burst into flames and fell out of the sky. new nou a documentary says the government called it an accident and that was a cover-up. when we pressed the film makers and former accident investigators they couldn't spell out what was being covered up or why. >> it blew up in the air. we saw it go into the water. >> reporter: it was 1996. twa flight 800 exploded mid-air off the coast of long island, new york. all 230 people on board the 747 died. after a four-year investigation the national transportation safety board ruled a short circuit near the fuel tank caused the explosion. now a twist in the case. out of scores of accident
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investigators involved, six now say in a new documentary the agency's findings were wrong. >> the primary conclusion was the explosive forces came from outside the airplane, not the center fuel tank. >> the agenda was that this is an accident, make it so. >> reporter: the now retired investigators say they have new evidence proving a missile caused one of the country's most deadly plane crashes. that evidence includes f.a.a. radar data, explosive residue in multiple locations of the plane and witness accounts of a rising streak of light through the sky. the documentary's producers and the former investigators suggest a cia, fbi and ntsb cover-up. >> they had a political agenda to show it was an accident. i a
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irregardless of the evidence. >> john was assigned to the case. >> i would never be part of a cover-up. tough take all the pieces and look at them as a whole. the sequencing report that told how the airplane. >> there was a thorough investigation. there was over 17,000 pages. >> it is considered and rejected a missile brought the plane down. they insist the streak witnesses saw was burning fuel from the plane. wednesday morning former investigators filed a petition with the ntsb to re-open the case. >> this isn't the first time they petitioned the ntsb to open the case, re-open the case. they tried once ten years ago. they were denied the ntsb acknowledged they received the request and they are in the process of reviewing it. we got our hands on a copy of it.
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they will be looking through this. it could take a few days. it is pretty lengthy request here. we'll see how it goes. >> a lot of people will be looking at the claims made in the documentary to determine whether or not they are true and whether they add up. rene marsh, thank you very much. the allegations in the documentary are drawing an angry reaction from a former managing director of the national transportation safety board. peter grk olls worked closely on the investigation. >> there is no solid proof. no evidence whatsoever that supports his theory. he's been chasing a variety of theories for 15 years. this is just the latest. he's wrong. >> you will hear more from goelz as he speaks in the next hour for an interview. coming up, celebrity cook paula deen telling jokes and saying words you wouldn't say to
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a militant group linked to al qaeda is claiming responsibility for a deadly attack. mary snow is monitoring that and other top stories the situation room. mary? >> jim, the attack targeted the united nations headquarters in mogadishu, somalia. the fighting left cars and buses mangled, windows of nearby apartments shattered and the ground littered with blood and body parts. by the time troops beat back the attacker, four u.n. employees, three civilian women and seven militants were dead. 15 others are wounded.
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here in the u.s., the fbi is coming up empty-handed again in the latest search for the body of one-time teamsters union president jimmy hoffa. crews spent days digging in a field in detroit because of a tip from a former mobster. there were probes to determine what's in the soil but didn't find samples requiring lab analysis. hoffa's 1975 disappearance remains an unsolved mystery. you can add republican senator lisa murkow zs can i to lawmakers publically supporting same sex marriage. a statement from her office said she met two women who adopted four children. in her words, this first class alaskan family still lives a second class existence. despite a sentence handed down today, dolce and gabbana are unlikely to spend time in prison. they were convicted of hiding hundreds of millions of euros from tax authorities.
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prosecutors asked for a two and a half-year sentence. the court decided on a year and eight months suspended sentence and a fine. neither designer showed up for court today. jim? >> thanks, mary. up next could the small aircraft overhead be an fbi drone? stunning revelations today an capitol hill. senator charles grassley is standing by. ahead, paula deen under oath. the tv chef admits using racial slurs and jokes. [ male announcer ] the mercedes-benz summer event is here. now get the mercedes-benz you've always dreamed of. but hurry, because a good thing like this won't last forever. [ tires screech ] here you go, honey. thank you. [ male announcer ] see your authorized dealer for an incredible offer on the exhilarating c250 sport sedan. ♪
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>> so instead of asking a question, i think i can assume since you do use drones that the fbi has developed a set of policies, procedures and operational limits on the use of dro drones. >> we are in the initial stages of doing that. i will tell you that our footprint is very small. we have very few and of limited use. we are exploring not only the use, but also the necessary guidelines for that use. >> does the fbi use drones for surveillance on u.s. soil? >> yes. >> i want to goen onto a question. >> let me e put it in context. >> sure. >> in a very, very minimal way. very seldom. >> senator charles grassley, the ranking member of the judiciary committee joins me now. thank you for your time.
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let me ask you, sir, was this known before you asked this question at this hearing today? why did you ask the question? >> absolutely not. the reason i asked the question was because we asked a question maybe a year ago at a previous hearing that we had with mueller about -- and it was with the department of justice generally because these are all in the department of justice. we asked about dea, fbi, and atf. if they used drone. we got word then that dea and atf did use drones. but we never got an answer on the fbi. well, that's -- we still want to know about the fbi. so that's why i asked a question today. it was very enlightening. >> was the fbi stone walling you by not giving you the information? >> i suppose since bureaucracies generally stonewall, but i won't accuse them of that. i don't know for sure. we followed up today with a
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question. we got the answer. i'm sending a letter now to get more detail on the amount of use. surveying american soil and under what conditions. just get this information out. i think the right of privacy is at stake. if there is a legitimate law enforcement reason for using them they ought to say what it is. >> there was a statement released to cnn saying they do use drones in a limited -- on a limited basis. they did point to one case where a drone was used, they say, in the alabama standoff that happened this year that jimmy lee dikes hostage situation. there was a 5-year-old being held captive by mr. dikes. apparently the fbi is saying they used a drone in that circumstance. do you believe that type of law enforcement situation, a
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standoff essentially might be appropriate for drones? >> well, i'm surely not going to find fault with use where it saves the life of a young boy. that's very legitimate. what we are up against on this whole thing and maybe not just involving the fbi, but there is a lot of distrust for government because the ap thing, what goes on in benghazi and we weren't getting answers on this and that with the irs. because of that mistrust, we have to nail these things down. the people have a right to know. it is just getting information out there. >> you raise a good point there, senator. we are not finding out about things until they sometimes come out in committee hearings. the dni, the director of national intelligence james clapper was asked about the use of data collection of phone calls and during that hearing he denied that was going on. it later turned out to be true. are you concerned that the federal government, the obama administration isn't being up
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front enough with you and other senators about what they are doing on a range of issues? >> yeah, but i don't know whether -- obviously what happens during this administration is under the president's fault. and, you know, it ends with him. but the point is that this is a general distrust of government. this use of drones is so new and privacy is a big concern now as evidenced by the intelligence stuff that's just now come out. >> director muller said there aren't any rules of the road essentially for drones to be used. is that a problem? >> well, you know, i asked the question backwards in a sense. i was assuming since they have them that there is some policy there. maybe he was saying to me that the policy isn't there. that's another reason for writing the letter so we can get this nailed down. you know, it isn't so much what government does.
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it's a mystery behind what the government does that breeds mistrust. whatever we can get out there without hurting our national security, we ought to get out. the use of drones is one of them. such a new thing. people knew about it in the military. it's a new thing for law enforcement or the commercial use of drones. we don't know how to deal with this ourself in the judiciary committee. we are scratching the surface. we have to get to the bottom of it. my letter to the fbi is just one part of that. >> senator, thank you for your time in bringing the question up at the hearing. we appreciate t. thank you, sir. just ahead a startling admission from celebrity kref paula deen and people at a restaurant say their recipes include genetically modified ingredients. morgan spurlock had something to say about a different fast food chain. he weighs in next. first enrique eglesias is
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online. it all has to do with a transcript of a videotaped deposition of southern celebrity chef paula deen. the deposition was taken in may and is part of an on going civil lawsuit filed against deen and her brother. a former employee alleges sexual and racial harassment. according to the deposition she was asked, have you ever used the n-word to which she replies yes, of course. when asked for context e she said it was in conversation when a black man burst into a bank where she was working and put a gun to her head. she later said she may have used the word when repeating something that was said to her adding, quote, but that's just not a word that we as time has gone -- we use as time as gone on. things have changed since the '60s in the south. my children and my brother object to that word being used in any cruel or mean behavior. later on in the transcript, she talks about a restaurant she and
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her husband visited where she said the waiters were middle-aged black men wearing white jackets and black bow ties. she asked if she slipped and used the n-word when describing the restaurant. she said no because that's not what these men were. they were professional black men doing a fabulous job. based on that experience she said she would love for her brother to experience a very southern-style plantation wedding. deen went on to say what she uh saw was reminiscent of an era in america around the civil war. she was asked, before the civil bar those black men and women who were waiting on white people were slaves, right? she answered, yes, i would say they were slaves but i didn't mean anything derogatory saying i loved their look and professionalism. deen's attorney said his client doesn't condone or use or find
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the use of racial epithets acceptable and she's looking forward to her day in court. the attorney representing the woman who filed the lawsuit would not comment on this deposition. jim? >> thank you. coming up, another recipe for controversy. genetically modified ingreed yens at a popular mexican restaurant. morgan spurlock joins us to talk it over. in the next hour a former transportation safety official discusses a controversial claim about a deadly air disaster. hin. [ male announcer ] introducing red lobster's seaside mix & match. combine any 2 from a wide variety of 7 exciting choices on one plate. all for just $12.99! but only for a limited time. i'm stewart harrington, and i sea food differently. but only for a limited time. but i see a world bursting with opportunity,ople nervous. with ideas, with ambition. i'm thinking about china, brazil, india. the world's a big place. i want to be a part of it. ishares international etfs. emerging markets and single countries.
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from its menu tos i its website to a short film it commissioned featuring willy nelson covering "coldplay." ♪ i was just guessing at numbers and figures ♪ >> reporter: chipotle mexican grille promotes the commitment to healthy ingredients like naturally raised grilled chicken but chipotle recently has come clean becoming one of the first fast food chains to admit it's got genetically modified organisms, gmos in many top selling dishes -- chicken and steak, tortillas. >> genetically modified organize nampls. what are they and why should we be concerned? >> their genetic material has been unnaturally changed. >> reporter: it's been processed, grown on factory-like farms. this nutritionist contends the soybean oil chipotle marinates chicken in can, in high quantities lead to higher risk of heart disease or arthritis. soybean oil is used in other
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chipotle dishes. if you want a dish without genetically modified ingredients don't go with the instinct many people have with the standard burrito, chicken and rice. you have to order a dish with pork, lettuce, beans, maybe salsa. chipotle didn't provide someone to speak on camera but a company spokesman said they are moving away from soybean oil in most dishes. they switched to sunflower oil for shells and chips. >> that's great news for people who love chips. if they are made with whole corn and sun flower oil they're good for you. >> reporter: chipotle says the food industry in america is dominated by artificially processed ingredients that it's hard to get away from. how hard? on the website chipotle places a g for genetically modified next to the ingredients list for chicken, steak, tortillas, half the foods. chipotle is seeking ways to move to healthier mixtures and unlike
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so many other fast food chains at least it is telling customers about artificial ingredients. we asked people if this would steer them away. >> absolutely. >> why? >> i care what i put in my body. >> no. the vast majority of u.s. produce is injected with chemicals. >> on the thought that it raises the risk for heart disease and arthritis we were pointed to an expert who disputed that saying the key omega acids reduce the risk. jim? >> at least they are fessing up to it. brian todd, thank you. joining me is the host and producer of inside man on cnn. morgan spurlock. it's a great pleasure to talk to you. thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. my pleasure. >> your breakthrough hit is "super size me." everybody knows you for that
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movie. your show will go into other areas. we'll talk about that. we had a piece about chipotle, the fast food chain which is very popular which is now going to be very open about what goes into their products, specifically genetically modified foods. >> yes. >> you took a hard look at the fast food industry, specifically mcdonald's. what do you think people should make of the disclosure from a chain like chipotle? this is fairly big news? >> it's big news. you can only hope it's the first of many. as citizens we have the right to know what's in our food. where it comes from, what it will do to our bodies when we eat it. to have a company like chipotle step forward and say we are going to disclose that information is a great turn of debuting on cnn soon. and as a matter of fact, this weekend, and you look at another popular product out there, although it's not sold at fast food chains, it's the product of marijuana. tell us about, tell us about
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some of these topics you'll be looking at on the show. >> each week we're going to be looking at a different hot-button hot topic in the united states from medical marijuana, to guns in america, to education to immigration in one episode i move in with my grandmother who is 91 years old to look at elder care and end of life issues. so i think in one way people will have their perspectives be shifted and turned on to new ideas. >> the issue of marijuana legalization is a huge topic. let's take a look at the clip from the show and we'll talk about it on the other side. >> great. >> i'm locked in the back of a blacked-out van somewhere in northern california, being driven it an undisclosed location where they grow vast amounts of marijuana. there's been other stipulations that we have to follow now. we can't show any of the people who work there. we can't show any of the people who work there, their faces, we can' show any hands or body parts, this isn't sketchy at all. >> wow, that is dramatic stuff,
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morgan. we know that these marijuana dispensaries have become very popular in states where this is now i guess legal, you might call it. some say it's, sort of pushing the envelope. what did you find investigating this, this industry? it's really an industry now. >> it's a huge industry, where we were in california, i was working at the largest dispensary in the united states. one called harborside in oakland, california, and it's a big, big business, they make $25 million a year. it's a nonprofit, so all the money they put right back into the company. they pay their taxes, federal and state. they're the second largest retail taxpayer in the city of oakland. generate a tremendous amount of revenue, not only for the state, but for the city. one of those things that you start to realize, if you do open it up to other states and let states make the decision, there could be a huge revenue stream and during an economic downturn, it could be a very viable solution. >> morgan i'm looking at some of the video from your special, that looks like a bank, that
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dispensary is so polished and professional looking, this is incredible. >> yeah. it's like a whole 'nother world, you think you're going to walk in and see a bunch of dirty stoners in there, some really dodgy characters, but no, it's a really different kind of thing. they've tried to make it, what they want, they want their place to be a model of what dispensaries will be so they look and feel and become like health clinics. they offer yoga, meditation, psychological counseling for patients that go there all free of charge. when you see a place like this, you're like wow, if every place did it like this, what kind of a difference could it make. >> i don't suppose you sampled any of the product, if you don't mind me asking? >> well, no, i was on the up-and-up, i was walking the line while i was there. i was maybe a little on the fringe, but not quite as far object the inside as i could have been. >> morgan spurlock, i tell you, anthony bourdain's show that
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just started on cnn is a big hit and a lot of fun to watch and this looks like a lot of fun to watch as well. morgan spurlock, the host, star and producer of the original cnn series, "inside man." stay tuned for that, it's going to be a lot of fun. morgan, thanks for your time. when we come back, a controversial documentary raises questions about one of the country's worst disasters in recent memory. and tennis star serena williams' mouth gets her into trouble, now she's trying to clarify her comments. we raise black and red angus cattle. we also produce natural gas. that's how we make our living and that's how we can pass the land and water back to future generations. people should make up their own mind what's best for them. all i can say is it has worked well for us.
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the space shuttle "atlantis" has seen its final days in orbit, but it's about to start a new mission. for today's american solutions segment, cnn's john zarrella and a real-life astronaut got a sneak peek at the shuttle's new home, john joins us live in florida and john, i am officially jealous. i took my kids down there earlier this year, what a place. >> yeah, it is absolutely spectacular. the last time i was in here, jim, it was a hard hat area. but now with less than two weeks to go before the "atlantis" exhibit opens, this is what visitors are going to see. "atlantis" is a showcase to the past. but it also highlights a problem -- america at this point does not have its own way to get astronauts into space. >> up close, nearly close enough to touch it, but still, it begs
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the question -- is it real? >> you don't realize the size when you're living in the cabin up front. >> tom jones flew four shuttle missions, one on "atlantis." but one of the last times he saw it, it was wrapped in shrink wrap as the museum was being built around it. now even he, an astronaut, is in awe of it. >> but to really see the spaceship up close was a rare event, it was always cloaked in scaffolding and the hangar, you saw little bits and pieces like the blind man. but you never saw the vehicle fully revealed except right after landing. >> when the "atlantis" exhibit opens, this is how everyone will see it, a flying machine like none ever built. >> were we ever that audacious that we built spacecraft to do things like that? we're going to look back and it's going to be like something out of a science fiction movie. >> "atlantis" and the other orbiters, now retired, are reminders of the past and the
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present. for two years since "atlantis" touched down at the kennedy space center, the u.s. has been without its own means to put astronauts in space. >> we call it a gap. not sure how long it's going to last, that's dependant on the future providers. >> providers have taken on carrying cargo to the international space station, but not people. now the gap has widened, it's a very iffy 2017. target dates are etched in sand, not stone. not enough money from congress, nasa says, so astronauts fly on russian rockets. jones believes a new generation of space explorers will find their inspiration right here. >> a young person can come in here and say i want to fly something like this. i want to help design something like this. and it can be a part of their future and that's a very bright future for america in the 21st century if we capitalize on the experience we have here. >> nasa is also working on a rocket for deep space missions. that, too, is years away.
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so for now, the inspiration gap is being filled by vehicles, not on the launch pad, but in museums. one of the most common questions, jim, that people have come through here are already is, is it real? they can't believe it's really "atlantis," it's not just the space shuttle that's in the museum. this is a full-scale mock-up of the hubbell space telescope. important to note that the, this entire $100 million facility not a single taxpayer dollar, all turnstyle and a capital campaign that built this incredible facility to house the shuttle "atlantis." as it flew in space and this is the only way it flew 43-degree angle. jim? >> two words, john, very cool. thank you very much. appreciate that. time for me to blast off, but "the situation room" continues right now with my colleague, jake tapper. happening now -- new evidence in a mysterious and
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deadly airline crash. did investigators get it wrong? i'll ask a former ntsb official. plus tea party activists vent their anger at the agency that targeted them. but there's new reasons to doubt claims that the irs was involved in partisan scheming. and growing outrage that the u.s. is about to talk peace with the taliban, only hours after they took credit for killing more americans. wolf blitzer is off today, i'm jake tapper. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world, you're in "the situation room." >> we begin this hour with demands for a new investigation into the whorrific mid air explosion of a twa jet, it happened 17 years ago off the coast of long island. killing all 230 people on board. a new documentary is giving new life to the theory that a missile might have caused the
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crash and the film, six retired members of the original investigative team break their silence and they challenge the ntsb's official finding that wiring in a faulty fuel tank was to blame. >> what would your analysis have been? >> the primary, primary conclusion was the explosive forces came from outside the airplane. not the center fuel tank. >> would that statement have been in your analysis? >> if i got the right one. >> the agenda was, that this is an accident, make it so. >> the investigators will not speculate about the source of the explosion, but this documentary clearly suggests that crucial evidence has been kept under wraps. >> the family members need to know what happened to their loved ones. this investigation was, no not one single eye witness was allowed to testify. that's unheard of.
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let the eye witnesses speak publicly at a government hearing, reopen the investigation and find out what really happened and stop this facade that's been going on for too long. >> in a moment i'll talk to a former ntsb official who worked closely on the 800 case, but first, let's dig deep near the crash investigation and the doubts surrounding it. cnn's tom foreman joins us. >> you know this seems like it wasn't that long ago, jake. but it was quite a number of years back. when you look at it, twa flight 8 00 took off at 8:20 on the evening of july 17th, 1996. it was still light out at the time. the weather forecast called for a smooth flight to paris, and it was that way, for a matter of minutes. >> we just saw an explosion out here. >> two other pilots were in the air and saw the explosion. >> it blew up in the air and we saw two fireball goes down into the water. >> other eye witnesses were on long island.
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>> it looked like a flame coming straight down. i thought it was coming from the ground up. the flame looked like it was shooting from the ground up. >> 230 men, women and children were aboard flight 800, everyone died. people thought terrorism immediately. an alert went out to the fbi. the navy sent state-of-the-art salvage ships, investigators recovered 97.5% of the plane in a giant hangar, they actually put twa 8 00 back together and reconstructed the plane's last seconds. early on, they determined the center fuel tank blew up. causing the nose and first-class section of the jet to break off and fall away. incredibly, the coach section kept flying for about 30 more seconds. evidence pointed not to one explosion, but two. the second blast, half a minute after the first erupted when the left wing tore away from the back half of the plane, leaking fuel from the much larger wing tank until sl touched off a spark. that, they say, is why people
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saw a line of flames shooting upward. those eye witness accounts of a trail of fire hit the internet less than 36 hours after the explosion. people speculated it was a terrorist surface-to-air missile. then, a document began circulating on the web, taking the missile theory in a new direction. it said a u.s. navy ship accidentally shot down flight 800 and a cover-up reaching the highest levels of government was in play. it might have stayed an internet conspiracy theory, had it not been for one man. >> it's a document that i got about five weeks ago. from an intelligence agent of france. >> in march of 1997, pierre salinger, the former press secretary, former u.s. senator and network news correspondent claimed to have verified the friendly fire cover-up. specifically naming the uss "normandy" as the ship that fired the missile. but there was a problem with his claim -- salinger's proof turned out to be the same
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unsubstantiated document that had been on the internet for months. and investigators concluded the u.s.s. "normandy" never fired any of its missiles and even if it had, it was out of range. >> the ntsb looked at this for four years after the explosion and in august of 2000, they put out the final report and concluded that twa 800 was the victim of fundamental flaws in the design and engineering of the aircraft. wiring that cracked and lost its insulation allowing high voltage into the center fuel tank full of highly explosive fumes. that's the official story. jake? >> tom foreman, thank you. and joining me now is peter goals, a former ntsb managing director who worked closely on the twa flight 800 investigation. mr. goals, thanks so much for being here. i want to play for you a clip of the producer of the film, talking to our morning show "new day" this morning. >> what we do show in the
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documentary is solid proof that there was an external detonation, that's in the form of course everyone knows about the eye witness statements, and we have corroborating information from the radar data. and the radar data shows an asymmetric explosion coming out of the plane. something that didn't happen in the official theory. let the eye witnesses speak publicly at a government hearing. reopen the investigation and stop the facade that's been going on for too long. >> he's saying solid proof of an external explosion. your thoughts? >> he is wrong. there's no solid proof. there's no evidence whatsoever. that supports his theory. he's been chasing a variety of theories for 15 years. this is just the latest. he's wrong. >> how do you account for the investigators in the film? the people who worked for twa, the pilots union, ntsb, who say that they feel that there was evidence that there was an exterior explosion. >> i think if you question the
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individual investigators carefully and ask them whether they agree that there was a missile and whether they agree that it has been covered up, they'll start to get awfully -- weak. for instance, hank hughes, a former ntsb investigator, who i know well, his major complaint is, the fbi treated him poorly. and that goes under the news of -- dog bites mailman. the fbi treats everyone they work with poorly. and we had problems like that but there is no evidence whatsoever. these guys cherry-picked their facts, i can point to the china lake report on potential missile explosions, they are unambiguous and clear -- didn't happen. >> is it possible at all that any information was suppressed during the original investigation, a news release for the documentary claims the investigators featured in the film waited until retirement to come forward and were not allowed to speak to the public. that's a quote from the release, or refute the ntsb at the time
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of the official investigation. >> it's absolutely not true. mr. hughes was given whistleblower protection and was called to testify before the senate judiciary committee. he was under complete protection. he had no constraints. and what he had to say was, the fbi didn't treat me right. >> the filmmakers are submitting a petition asking for the ntsb to reopen the investigation based on what they call new evidence. do you think that that's a legitimate request? is there any value whatsoever, do you think, in reopening this case? >> well they're free to you know, any citizen is free to ask the ntsb to look at an investigation again. the investigation is never officially closed. but they have to have new evidence. and frankly, i listened to their press conference, i've seen their movie, there's no new evidence. this is simply they don't like the interpretation or the analysis that was given to the existing evidence. that frankly is not enough.
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>> what do you account for all the individuals who say they saw something heading towards the airplane? >> that's a great question. and we wrestled with the eye witness issue for a long time. here's what we know for sure. we know precisely when the event began. the data recorder, the voice recorder, stopped the signal from the plane stopped. we know where it began. and we know precisely where it ended. and we know that in between those two points, was somewhere around 40, 42, 43 seconds. so we know that's what happened. if someone says, and almost all the witnesses say this, i heard a sound, i looked up, and then i saw a streak of light or a fireworks and an explosion. those who say they saw that, saw the last six seconds of the event no witness saw the first event, 40 seconds prior to that.
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>> that could not be a missile. >> lastly, sir, you directed family support for the families of the twa flight 800 investigations. obviously they're the ones we really care about here. their pain and their suffering, their losses, do any of these families that you know of have a desire to reopen this case? are any of them on board with taking another look? >> yes, there are. there are a few. and i've spoken with them repeatedly over the years. there's a french gentleman who lost his son. who continues to believe vehemently that this was shot down by the united states navy. there are other family members as well who just don't accept the explanation. i understand that. but you know, this was the most exhaustive investigation in the history of the ntsb. tens of thousands of pages are under public record. people ought to take the time to read those pages. if they're interested. >> peter goelz, thank you so
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much for being here. >> thank you. up next -- afghan president hamid karzai is lashing out at the u.s. over planned talks with the taliban at their controversial new office. and a reality check on the irs. was the organization under political pressure to target conservatives? we'll tell you what congressional investigators are learning. in the name of style and sophistication. but to us, less isn't more. more is more. abundant space, available leading-edge technology, impeccable design, and more than you've come to expect from a luxury vehicle. the lexus es350 and epa-estimated 40 mpg es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. it's lots of things. all waking up. ♪
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with your hearing aid purchase- a $100 value. the aarp hearing care program provided by hearusa comes with a 100% satisfaction guarantee. call hearusa at ... and start loving life again, today. the group that ruthlessly targets americans for deadly attacks, the group that sheltered osama bin laden and now the u.s. is about to do something that was once unthinkable. sit down for talks with the taliban. cnn pentagon correspondent, chris lawrence, has more. chris, a lot of anger over this, i would assume. >> anger is probably an understatement. a lot of folks are outraged that the president would give the go-ahead to these high-level talks, especially in light of everything that's happened in the past few days. in the next few days, a u.s. ambassador is expected to sit across the table from the
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taliban. launching negotiations with a group that just 24 hours ago took credit for killing four more american troops, by firing rockets at bagram air base. >> we're helping legitimize while they're blowing up americans in afghanistan. >> congressman duncan hunter blasts the plan to send a high-level official to qatar where the taliban have opened an office and are flying their flag. >> it raises them up in the national and international eye. >> the office itself isn't confined to peace talks. >> it could use it as a base for propaganda, for fundraising. >> the actual sign had to be taken down because the taliban called the office -- the islamic emirate of afghanistan, the name they used when they ran the country. >> the office must not be treated as or represent itself
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as an embassy. >> what did the taliban do to earn these talks? they made a statement supporting a peace process. >> they did not degree to a cease-fire, they did not acknowledge the afghan constitution. >> we think ultimately we'll need to see afghans talking to afghans about how they can move forward. >> which may not happen now. after a furious president hamid carsi pulled out of the talks. >> i think he has a legitimate contemplate that we're trying to legitimize, the guys blowing up americans and afghans in afghanistan. >> karzai took it one step further, spending separate talks in the u.s. over a troop presence post 2014. >> there are things that did not go as planned. >> certainly didn't. but the president admitted there will be bumps in theed road you but said all sides have too much to gain not to talk. while the administration is
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trying to break up the taliban and al qaeda, some critics say it's the taliban that's doing a better job of driving another wedge between the u.s. and afghan governments, jake? >> all right. chris lawrence, thank you. just into the situation room, three midshipmen at the u.s. naval academy are accused of sexually assaulting a female midshipmen and accused of making false statements and facing military charges. officials say two of the accused are former football players. the third is a current player who has been suspended from the team. an embarrassing blunder by a high-profile gun control group -- how it mistakenly memorialized one of the boston bombing suspects. plus -- kicked out of the men's warehouse? >> you're going to like the way you look. i guarantee. >> why he was fired from the company he started.
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let's take a quick look at other stories we're following in the situation room with mary snow. mary? >> federal reserve chairman, ben bernanke spoke and stocks took a nosedive. the dow tumbled 200 points when bernanke addressed how the fed might eventually cut back on the $85 billion in stimulus it pumps into the economy each month. but bernanke says for now, the massive bond purchases will continue. we're hearing from brazil that a hike in bus fares from sao paolo has been repealed. the city's mayor and governor of the state made the announcement a short time ago.
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demonstrations against the hike rockeded city, bringing thousands of people into the streets. and sparking calls for social justice. the group mayors against illegal guns is apologizing for including the name of boston bombing suspect, tamerlan tsarnaev, in a list of gun violence victims, it was read at an event marking six months since the massacre at sandy hook elementary school. the group partially funded by new york city mayor michael bloomberg said it was using a list compiled by slate.com of people killed by guns since the december shooting. now you've probably seen one of his many commercials over the decades, see if you recognize this man. >> you're going to like the way you look. i guarantee it. >> that's george zimmer, co-founder and the public face of the clothing retailer, men's warehouse, he's been fired by the company's board of directors. zimmer, who is the largest
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shareholder says he's being silenced after voicing concern over the company's direction. no comment from men's wearhouse. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> the one of a kind voice of slim whitman, the yodelling country star, he had hits in every decade at the 50s to the 80s and came into the american living rooms when he started selling his records on tv. he was big in europe and australia, where he toured extensively during the 1990s. slim whitman died today in florida, he was 90 years old. jake? >> thanks, mary. still ahead we're looking at the nsa leaker's relationship with china. is there a secret reason he's hiding out in hong kong? plus a surprising new report on a controversial vaccine and its effectiveness in fighting a cancer-causing virus. dad. how did you get here? i don't know.
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passing secrets to the communist regime? i'll ask a top lawmaker what he thinks. and a cancer-fighting vaccine has been controversial, but is it effective? plus our reality check on the irs and its scrutiny on the tea party. you may think you know what really happened and you may be wrong. wolf blitzer is off today, i'm jake tapper and you are in the situation room. president obama stood before a symbol of freedom today and tried to calm european anger about u.s. government spying. in a speech at germany's historic brandenburg gate he alluded to the controversy over nsa surveillance and he promised a balance between security and privacy. >> our current programs are bound by the rule of law and they're focused on threats to our security. not the communications of ordinary persons. they help confront real dangers, and they keep people safe here in the united states and here in europe.
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>> the nsa leak may be getting even more attention in china than in europe as far as we know. the leaker, edward snowden, still is hiding out in china's back yard, hong kong. the controversy is raising a lot of questions about snowden's ties to the communist regime and about china's relationship with the u.s. cnn's david mckenzie joins us live from beijing. david? by showing up in hong kong edward snowden opened himself up to those questions. the question is -- does china want him here or not? >> edward snowden surfaced in hong kong with a laptop full of secrets to expose a u.s. surveillance program. and told the hong kong paper that the u.s. is hacking china. legislators in the u.s. are asking questions. >> does he have a relationship with a foreign government? and is there more to this story? we're going to make sure that there's a thorough scrub of what he is, what his china connections are. >> snowden in beijing say
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there's no connection. chinese state media is having a field day with the snowden affair. one sample headline, the world owes snowden a debt of gratitude. for china, it's pay-back, the u.s. government and security companies have been accusing china of hacking for months. but a leading chinese media expert says the chinese government can only say so much. >> i think it's quite difficult for china to make too much of a fuss about american surveillance and hacking because they don't want to draw attention to their own activities in the area. >> it's widely believed that the chinese government monitors its own citizens and even controls the flow of information. >> new york university now our own broadcasts on sensitive subjects. >> are silenced. >> most analysts believe that china is more wore ied about its number one foreign policy priority, the united states. >> u.s./china relationship is of such vital importance to both sides that neither government would want the relationship to be derailed by snowden.
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>> a menacing north korea. military influence in the region. and of course, a vital trade relationship. are the chief concerns of the u.s. and china. >> well jake, most analysts i speak to say that china needs the u.s. far more than it needs any of snowden's secrets. jake? >> thank you, david. joining me now is house intelligence committee member, and republican congressman, pete king. congressman, thanks for joining us. snowden denies it. but are you aware of any evidence that snowden has connections or has been giving information specifically to china? >> no. i know it's being lucked into. but i'm not in a position to say what his relationship with china is. i haven't made that accusation. again i think this is something that has to be looked into. as to why he went to china any previous connections he had. any intelligence he might be giving them.
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that to me is just sound intelligence work. on the part of our government. but i'm not in a position to say what he has done or not done. >> i want to get your reaction to what fbi director, robert mueller said today about drones in the united states. >> does the fbi use drones for surveillance on u.s. soil? >> yes. >> very, very minimal way. very seldom. >> congressman, do you have any issues with the fbi using drones on u.s. soil? >> i really don't. to me it's another form of surveillance. sometimes they use binoculars, sometimes they use telescopes. sometimes they just use eyesight. to me, so long as it's not penetrating someone's home i don't see the fourth amendment issue, obviously it's not something that should be abused. but to me it's a legitimate law enforcement actual that should be used in certain circumstances. >> i want to play an exchange
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that you had with the director of the nsa, general keith alexander. >> prior to 9/11 there was phone messages from yemen which you did not have the capacity to follow through on which perhaps could have prevented the 9/11 attack. general alexander, or mr. joyce, could you explain how the attack could have been prevented? >> what we don't know, going back in time, is the phone call between yemen and there. if we would have had the reasonable suspicion standard, we'd have to look at that. assuming that we did. if we had the database we had now with business records fisa and and we searched the data number. we could have tipped it to the fbi. >> so what did you take away from that answer? do you think the 9/11 could have been prevented if we had had the surveillance programs in place? i agree with general alexander. i think it could have been prevented. there's no such thing as a sure
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thing in this business. to me that would have added an extra piece of the mow sake and it would have improved our chances of being able to stop 9/11. >> someone who disagrees with you on a lot of these issues. republican senator rand paul talked about 9/11 in an interview with our jim acosta. senator paul said the failures before 9/11 had to do with a lack of police work, not seeking warrants, had nothing to do with the ability to listen in to phone calls what would your response be to that? >> i have no idea what senator paul is talking about. i have no warrants he's talking about, i don't know which phone calls he should have been listening to. to me what general alexander said yesterday still holds up a lot better than what senator paul is saying. to me i've studied 9/11 as probably as much you know, more than most people. and i'm really not aware of what he's talking about. in hindsite there's probably different things we could have done. there's always in hindsight. i would say it's more likely we
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would have found something if the fisa organization had been there. >> i interviewed two whistleblowers yesterday and i asked one about general alexander's answer that the technology does not exist for an nsa analyst to flip a switch and listen to americans' phone calls and read their emails. this is what he had to say. >> to say that the technology does not exist really begs the question, do we just trust his word for it? there's been a number of cases that have been made public including a couple of analysts at fort gordon in georgia where they're listening in on ngos and american citizens overseas. >> congressman, are you confident that the technology does not exist or do you have any concern at all that general alexander might have been hiding behind the phrase, flip a switch, because it's obviously more complicated than just flipping a switch. >> i have tremendous confidence in general alexander as a member of the house intelligence committee. i've found him to be very straight foortd, very honest,
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very dedicated. if it comes down to a choice, i will side with general alexander. >> and lastly, sir, there's an unreleased documentary film on the 1996 twa flight 800 explosion, i'm heard you've heard about it and many of your constituents, i'm sure have a lot of interest in it. producers say this documentary offers solid proof that there was an external detonation that led to the plane crash and producers are submitting a petition signed by many former investigators asking for the national transportation safety board to reopen its investigation. do you think that the investigation should be reopened? >> i'll have to see what information they had. the plane came down very close to my district. i was out there at the site a number of times during the summer of 1996. also i have great regard for jim calstrom, the fbi man in charge of the investigation. obviously i'm open to all new evidence and i would look at it, but i'm not going to make any decision right now. >> congressman peter king, thank
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on capitol hill, fresh outrage at irs targeting of conservative groups and new information as lawmakers dig deeper into the scandal. cnn chief congressional correspondent dana bash is working the story for us, dana? >> jake, the fbi director got an earful today from a conservative senator accusing him of
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slow-walking the irs criminal investigation. but here in congress, the probe is in full force and there is more bipartisan agreement and what they've found so far than meets the eye. outside the capitol, thousands of tea party supporters rallied, railing against the government agency that targeted them, the irs. >> we will get the truth and we will hold those responsible accountable. >> inside the capitol, sources tell cnn congress am investigators conducted their eighth recorded sfl view with an irs employee, trying to get to the bottom of why tea party groups were subjected to inappropriate irs scrutiny and delays in applications for tax-exempt status. a new cnn/orc poll shows during the month that congress has been investigating, american suspicion about white house targeting of tea party involvement has jumped, from 37 in may, to 47 now. that flies in the face of what
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lawmakers of both parties leading the investigation have actually found so far. no evidence that singling out tea party groups was politically motivated. this week, democrat elijah cummings released the full transcript of an irs interview on state the union. the irs employee, a self-identified conservative republican says the reason the first tea party group was singled out was to get guidance on how much political activity a group can engage in and still qualify for tax exempt status. a congressional investigator asked, are you aware of any political motivations behind the screening, centralizing and development of tea party cases? i'm not aware of that, replied the irs employee. >> he said over and over again, i want it to be consistent. and so that's how all of this got started. period. >> cnn reviewed another transcript of an interview with washington irs official, holly paz, which reveals an agency
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plagued more by bureaucratic ineptitude than partisan scheming. she said using the term tea party was a shorthand way to identify any group participating in political action. they understood that the real issue was campaign intervention. when it comes to delays, paz said many requests languished because the irs cincinnati office waited for guidance from irs washington, where ooh washington didn't realize that applicants hadn't received answers from cincinnati. while there's bipartisan agreement so far that there's no evidence of political influence. many more irs employees to interview before they can firmly conclude why and how irs tea party targeting happened. jake? >> dana bash on capitol hill. despite woes, the irs says it's legally bound to pay $70 million in bonuses to union employees.
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charles grassley is demanding to know why he wrote to acting chief danny wuerfel of the irs were banned. the irs says, it's negotiating bonuses with the union. the controversial vaccine against the virus that causes cervical cancer is working better than anyone expected, with informations down more than half among teenaged girls. cnn senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen is looking at new numbers from the centers for disease control and prevention, what did the researchers find? >> what they found that the vaccine seemed to work better than they thought it was going to in many ways. what they found was a 56% drop in hpv rates in teen girls. now, it doesn't mean that hpv has gone away. in fact 89 million americans have hpv and hpv causes 70% of cervical cancers. but that drop is a great thing and they're crediting the vaccine. which came out in 2006. jake? >> elizabeth, that's good news.
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obviously, great news. but there's still a lot of people who haven't had the vaccine. why not? >> right, they were hoping that by this time, about 80% of girls would get the vaccine. it turns out that only about a third have gotten all three of the shots that they're supposed to get. you know, maybe the word hasn't quite gotten out yet. maybe it's because people are used to getting shots for their let's say, two, three and 4-year-olds, but not necessarily for their girls at age 11 or 12 or 13, but they're hoping to get the word out. because the more girls who get vaccinated, you get her immunity. they don't give it to boys, boys don't give it to other girls, it's really important. >> you talked about girls getting the shoxt but as you mentioned, boys can get it as well? >> when boys get hpv, they can also get cancers. so there's an emphasis now also on boys getting the shot. at around the ages of 11 to 21. this is on the vaccine schedule for boys. as well as girls. and we'll see how those rates do years from now.
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an interview with rolling stone magazine she talked about the squikz of two high school football players who assaulted a drunk classmate. williams said the girl should not have been drinking and shouldn't have put herself in that position. rachael nickels is working the story for us. what is serena williams saying about this controversy? >> i want to put that quote in a little more context for you, as well. the beginning of the quote in rolling stone had her saying specifically i am not blaming the girl. she went on to question did the girl's parents teach her about drinking and not drinking to the point where she couldn't remember anything and that is
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where she followed saying she shouldn't have put herself in that position. that is why she came out with a statement today and said i'm currently reaching out to the girl's family to let her know i am deeply sorry for what is written in rolling stone. what was written was insensitive and hurtful and i would by no means insinuate she was to blame. my prayers and support always goes to the rape victim. she clearly feels at this point she needs to come forward and clarify her remarks and hopes this kind of puts an end to the issue but of course she is about to start wimbledon. she will be giving plenty of press conferences. >> you have known serena since she was 15. what is your perspective here? >> you know, she went on in her statement to say she was always supportive of women's issues.
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she and her cyst satelliter venus have made such a point of being vocal that there is a documentary coming out. i think we can look at her actions and trust that what she says is true and her general feeling about this is what it is. separately when she wants to talk about the fact that maybe you tell your daughters, your young girls don't get so drunk as a teenager that you could fall prey to predators. don't put yourself in position to be the victims of crimes. doesn't mean they are at fault for those crimes but means you need to be smart about certain situations so you lessen and chances of being in those positions. confusing those things is something serena did because the victim in the case didn't do anything wrong. she needs to basically come forward and say that when she thinks she said today. >> i do wonder what about the
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parents of the two convicted rapists? did the parents teach them that sexual assaulting and raping young girls isn't a good idea? we'll leave that where it is. >> i would certainly hope that parents all over teach them that. i think that serena's been on record on the past saying things. i think that for her at this point she sort of says things casually and i would like to give her the credit of admitting that she was wrong because she was wrong in this situation. the comments she made were wrong and i think she apologized. it is something that gets added. >> is lebron james going to wear his head band tonight or is he not? >> we'll move on to something a little more light weight. the game seven of the nba finals, game six lebron's head band came off. and he played like a beast as he
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said after that. the big question is, is he going to wear it tomorrow night. i was able to sit down for an interview that will run during the day tomorrow. he did say he is going to start with the head band. he was very funny during the interview. he took his head band and kissed it and apologized for abandoning it last night and said he is going to start with it in game seven. he'll see how he plays. if he doesn't play well the head band can go again. >> interesting. the interview airs tomorrow beginning at 6:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. prancericize. if you like the original you have to see what is coming up next. [ male announcer ] running out of steam? ♪ now you can give yourself a kick in the rear! v8 v-fusion plus energy. natural energy from green tea plus fruits and veggies. need a little kick? ooh! could've had a v8. in the juice aisle.
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joanna says her understanding is that mayorer saw her original video with the volume turned down while he was working on his song. >> he saw my movement synchronized with his song. >> reporter: next think you know he was singing with it. it has been a surreal ride for joanna. im imagine seeing yourself spoofed by a horse. or a lady walking her dog. >> it is very chaotic. i can't seem to get a handle on everything. >> reporter: joanna calls the reaction to her rhythmic exercise routine overwhelming but thrilling. tweets get pretty jumpabled when you shift to a gallop.
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i am not especially proud to say i was one of the first news people to prancercise publicly. i am channelling my inner horse. it is exhausting. the "today" show it was almost a prancercise collision between the hosts. on hln's "news now" anchor led what amounted to a prancercise flash mod. and in casper, wyoming, a fitness trainer gave her critique. >> what are you looking at right now? >> a lot of flailing around. >> nobody is really doing it. they are imitating what they think is prancercise. >> reporter: tell that to the unicorn. let's face it. we all look as graceless donkeys
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compared to the princess of prancercise. >> that's it for me. i am going to prancercise my way out of here. erin burnett starts right now. the fbi admits it is using drones to spy on americans here on american soil. plus the latest from the whitey bolger trial. and new information about the explosions that brought down twa flight 800. some are saying it wasn't an accident. let's go outfront. good evening. i'm erin burnett. out front tonight big brother is watching you. literally, with a drone. and without rules.
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