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>> "ac 360" starts now. george zimmerman will see who decides his fate. he said he doesn't have a problem. should the court have a problem? we'll talk about that and later, the best story you'll see all day. how a 3-year-old came to hear his very first words. >> daddy loves you. daddy loves you. >> i'll tell you about the revolutionary device that made that smile possible. >> we begin with the oldest organization, the x game movement shutting the doors and apologizing saying their world view has been quote neither honoring toward our fellow human beings or bibla kill. more more than three decades they do therapy based on representations of christian
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teachings they said they could change sexual orientation and one founding member renowneds at the end of the decade admitting he wasn't ex gay but very gay and they claim they can help people get over their same-sex attractions. alan chambers was the most recent head and now is personally apologizing to gay people. >> i'm sorry for the pain and hurt that many of you have experienced. i'm sorry that some of you spent years working through shame and guilt you felt when your attractions didn't change. i'm sorry that we promoted sexual orientation change efforts and they aories that stigmatized parents. that is a documentary hosted by lisaling. in the website titled i'm sorry he e lab waits saying i'm profoundly sorry many walked away from their faith and some have chosen to end their lives. yesterday they closed up shop. as i said, we'll talk with
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lisa ling in a moment but what he has been telling people for decades. here is a report our gary filed back when they said the therapy would work. >> men, women looking for a way to exercise homosexuality here at a gathering in phoenix called love one out. >> there will be people there that are just, you know, searching for more information. >> christian ministries off referrals to various treatment programs. >> have a good day. >> thank you. >> with more than 120 local branchs in north america, they call themself the largest ex guy referral service. >> you have to have healthy expectations. >> alan chambers says his own journey from homo sexual assaulty to hetero sexual assaulty wasn't easy.
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>> it was years of work. >> not everybody had the same result. >> sean, when did you realize you were gay? >> at the age of 6 i realized i was different from other boys, and it wasn't until later on i associated the word with that. i was ten. >> growing up gay in illinois wasn't easy for sean o'donald. his catholic parents were loving but the kids at school weren't. >> i had a very low se-esteem. i hated myself. he was born again and joined a church. >> how important was religion? >> the top of my list. i mean, i went to church four or five times a week. i was always at church. mission strips, bible groups. >> if you're gay you believe you're going to held. >> right. >> it was too much. he started cutting himself, ateched suicide and finally at 18 he came out to his pastor. >> did you feel like he was angry at you? >> no, no, he was very
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compassionate with the understanding i needed help. >> he was refered to a local ex-gay organization. >> i thought i would go a couple days without being attracted to men but then i would have a sexual slipup so i thought i'm failing again. >> five years into therapy sean hit a low point and again, tried to kill himself. desperate he moved to california and joined a live-in program for gay men trying to become straight. >> very controlling environment. we went to work. after we got home, we had dinner together. we didn't go places alone, other than to work and back. we were in groups of two and three. sundays we went to church together. we had curfews. >> sean was totally committed to the program. >> the first year i was great, this is -- i'll make it. this is what i needed and, you know, then i had a slip with one
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of the guys in the house. >> the next day sean drove into san francisco and had a one-night stand with a man. >> you know what? that was it. i was done. i had given it the good old college try and decided i was going to come out again. >> this is blunt but i'm curious, do you like girls now? >> i love my wife. i'm attracted to my wife. we've been married for nine years. >> are any feelings towards men still within you? do you feel like it could come out again? >> again, i don't think i'll ever be as if i never was. i'm human. i could be tempted by a homosexual thought -- >> that doesn't go away. >> it hasn't gone away 100% with me. >> do you think programs like exodus can work with some people? >> no. >> sean is back working as a high school science teacher. he's been living as an openly gay man for six years.
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>> joining me now is lisa ling who spoke with alan chambers for our special on the own network. first of all, it's great to have you back on the program. >> thank you. >> did it surprise you alan chambers apologized they shut the doors? >> it did surprise me when he said he wanted to apologize to all gay people and people harmed by exodus because it's acre knowledging that thoses had their lives harmed by it. what now? last year they stopped condu conducting therapy and this year he wants to apologize to people they harmed. what now? we witnessed what now last night. >> what does it actually mean? he still -- he's not saying being gay -- is he saying being gay is okay? >> so, although alan won't directly say it, he still believes that homosexuality is a sin. he just doesn't want to be part
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of an organization to try to convert people or cure people of homosexuality because he says it's not possible. he himself as gary tuckman's report indicated still says he has same section attraction as does 99.9% of the people that have gone through the program. >> i interviewed a number of people that say they are ex-gay they will acknowledge that they still have the attractions, as you just said alan does, that they still have the thoughts. they are just forcing themselves or training themself not to act -- >> that's right. >> not acting on it. >> to an extent that's how alan is living now. i firmly believe that he has a beautiful marriage with his wife leslie and children we he says he continues to have same-sex attraction. >> i've done a lot of these interviews and clearly, i'm gay but i don't try to force my opinion on, you know, somebody wants to, you know, thinks they
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are unhappy being gay and wants to change, if it works for them, it doesn't. >> right. >> it seems like there is a lot of people who say they are harmed by this therapy. i want to show another clip from your report, god and gays. there is a guy name sean who is so-called ex-gay survivor who came out and tried to change, has nod and he's talking to alan about how much damage he feels it has done. >> all the people trying to change. >> so let's hear from him. >> when i left exodus i joined the military and i was just at my end. i didn't realize i was going into such a deep pit of dispair and anger and i woke up one day and my friend had gone to work and he had a loaded gun in his closet, and i was so happy about dying it felt like i was opening a christmas present. that's how i felt. i went over to the closet and i stood there, and i prayed that prayer that i had prayed probably a million times and i
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said god, why will you not change me? and i can't describe it, but something from the outside, alan, told me not to take my life. and i said god, why won't you change me? and it said to me because there is nothing that i need to change about you. >> amen. >> the idea of suicidal thoughts, people that even actually attempted suicide, that's something common from people from exodus. >> several people said they entertained suicidal thoughts because when you're told from a young age that you are a sinner for doing nothing but having thoughts -- same-sex attraction and go through the programs and you try and you try and you can't change, what is your purpose? what is -- what are you here for? and so a lot of the people that i've encountered said they have definitely thought about suicide. >> alan chambers spoke to, i
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guess, it was -- i guess it was last night to a grouping from exodus international. >> the conference is going on and he announced it will be shutting down last night. >> so let's play some of that. >> i believe we've come to a time in the church when it's time to lay our weapons down. we fought the culture, and we've lost, but i think we've lost for a good reason because it time for peace. we are the culture. culture doesn't exist without people. god doesn't want us to fight people anymore. >> and again, i'm not clear on exactly where he goes now where the organization goes now. >> right. >> it's officially shutting doors but sounds like he feels they are shutting because they lost a culture war. >> he does say we lost the culture war and when you think
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about it, gay rights, marriage equality, these are civil rights issues of our generation. the supreme court will decide on doma and proposition 8 and anderson -- sorry, alan and the bored of exodus thought what side do we want to be on? >> it's interesting in one statement he said he feels their world view -- world view has not been fair to our fellow human beings to quote him and also has not been biblical, that it sounds like he wants some sort of an organization that is more welcoming, whatever that may mean. >> so alan -- i don't know that they can even define what the next chapter is going to be for them, but he has mentioned to me that there -- there is a place -- or there are people who are struggling, who may want to remain sell bit or work on their relationships but moving
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forward, they want an organization more conclusive than anyone would come to. >> i look forward to speaking to him tomorrow night. thanks, lisa. as i mentioned, alan chambers agreed to come on the progroom. look forward to that conversation. i hope you join us tomorrow night for that. let us know what you think. follow me on aroundnderson coop an all female jury is chosen for the zimmerman trial. the judge is fine with it but it has a lot of people talking to believe the, a battle not just over this fence but fight for and against immigration reform and politics for years to come. we'll be right back. i'm the next american success story. working for a company where over seventy-five percent of store management started as hourly associates. there's opportunity here. i can use walmart's education benefits to get a degree, maybe work in it,
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in "crime and punishment" the jury is selected in the zimmerman trial. it caught a lot of people by surprise. five are white, one is black or hispanic and all are women. zimmerman said he's fine with the makeup. listen. >> were you able to hear the six members of the jury and four alternates? >> yes, ma'am. >> is and is this jury panel acceptable to you, sir? >> yes, ma'am. >> all florida cases except capital trials are decided by six jury members. he's charged with killing trayvon martin. he said he shot him in self-defense but prosecutors are saying he profiled him. they expect the jury to do their duty and be fair and impartial.
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our senior political correspondent joins me now. what do we know about the six women. >> first of all, anderson, five out of the six are mothers. two of them just come into the area in recent months from living out of state. one jump ror used to have a concealed weapons permit for a gun, a female did. she doesn't have it anymore because she doesn't carpry her gun anymore. her husband still has a concealed weapons permit. quite a few of the jurors do come from gun families. b 29 has been arrested. a lot of diversity and a lot of life experiences, but we were surprised when it was a total female jury. >> clearly, they selected these people so the prosecution and defense both seem happy with the jury they got, correct? >> they did. and the way they did it was in order of that individual questioning, that's how they went and here is what is very fascinating. there was an african american male who should have been on the jury but the prosecution
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exercised a strike which can be for whatever reason. the defense didn't challenge it so he was not on the jury, but when then when the prosecution exercised four strikes for white females, the defense actually exercised the constitutional challenge saying you're trying to december criminate based on juror and they got two back on the final jury. one said innocent people go to prison which favors the defense. one said her daughter said what is a young kid out like that buying candy at the night got her back on the jury, and remember, it was 7:00 in the evening, not real late. >> the judge will rule or expected to rule whether an expert can testify on a crucial piece of evidence about who is screaming on the 911 tape. tell us about it. >> this is probably the most important piece of evidence in this trial because you hear a voice and it's described as a death cry, somebody believing they are going to die. prosecutors want to put expert testimony on to say they can't
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conclusively say but they believe based on the science that it is trayvon martin. defense put on really renowned experts saying there is no credibility in these experts and the science at all. the voice is so far away, the instruments they are using are outdated and there is just no way to tell with any type of scientific certainty who was crying out. >> i interviewed trayvon martin's mother and she said she was pretty sure that was her son's voice. >> that's right. >> let's dig deeper with the criminal defense attorney and marsha clark former district attorney and author of killer ambition. so you say you can see why both sides might want a jury made up entirely of women. why is that from the defense and prosecution standpoint? >> anderson, there is something for both sides when women are involved. from the prosecution said, women, especially mothers, five of the six are mothers, the hope is they will feel invested in
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trayvon martin, someone that could have been their son out there that night. but from the defense point of view, they like the idea of women, women who have had guns in their lives and family because women are more likely to identify with the tear in a neighborhood that's been victimized by burglaries and feel like george zimmerman is kind of a protector of theirs, and so appreciate what he was trying to do. so women have something to give for both sides of this lawsuit. at the end of the day i'm not surpriseed to see it was an all female jury. >> what do you think because i heard people say most of the women, five out of the six are moms, they might be more sitthreaten tick to trayvon marten. >> if they say that they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. this could not be a better defense jury if you dreamed of it. when jean did that package october the constitutional the wheeler motion, a motion and
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they got put back on two jurors that is a prosecution's worst nightmare. they need a unanimous verdict in this case. the defense only has to have one holdout. at this point, i think the prosecution would be holding on for dear life to try and get one person to vote for them. i think that more importantly than the gender here is the race composition and i think this is a grand slam home run for the defense. >> mark, you also say that jury selection is the most important part of a trial. do you really believe that? >> absolutely. i've tried hundreds of cases, and i can tell you based on all of those cases, the cases were won or lost 99.9% of the time in jury selection. this case other than marco falling and tripping and income knocking himself out, this is his to lose at this point. >> mark brought up the racial
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make up of the jury. does it play one way or the other? does that matter? >> of course, it always matters, especially in a case like this where race is squarely on the table. the prosecution's theory is he profiled trayvon martin and reacted because he's african american so having a white set of jurors more likely to identify the theory they are more likely to identify with george zimmerman. the fact that -- so the race factor alone does play in his favor. i disagree a little bit with mark about the other issue. the mother issue can play in the prosecution's favor but what worries me the most is the batson versus kentucky challenge what mark was referring to where a prosecutor or defense attorney has excused them of a given race, he say that's not fair it's a race-based refuse and
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that is send a damaging message to the jurors and not only did they know why they were excused but the rest of the jury knows it too so this prosecution starts out with a taint of having done something improper. the jury knows it. >> how long do you see this going? >> right, that's exactly what will happen. >> how long do you see this trial, mark, going on for? >> i don't know. i don't think this is a case where you want it to go on longer or drag it out indefinitely. i think if you're in the defense camp on this case, you want to get this over as quickly as possible. i think it's to the prosecution's advantage to drag it out ideally so they can get into alternates that are there. i can't emphasize enough the idea of placing two of those jurors who the prosecution had excused back into that jury box, and those jurors are going -- have already thought about it. i guarantee you -- it's crossed all of their minds in a case here which is so racially
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charged, i can't even imagine what is going through the prosecutor's minds at this point. >> good to have you on, thanks. as always, you can find out more on cnn.com. there is more there. next the fight behind the fight on immigration reform and how it can reshape the republican party and new word on the circumstances surrounding the terribly premature death of james gandolfini. so hard to believe he's gone and late word on determining exactly what killed him. [ female announcer ] a classic macaroni & cheese from stouffer's
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well politics, the fight that affects millions of people and could reshape the economy and job market and could reshape america's border with mexico but on top of that is a battle in many ways for the future of the republican party, immigration reform. today in the senate offered an amendment calling for 20,000 more border agents and completing a fence to beef up republican supports if the larger reform bill passes the senate, republicans in the house will support it. that, however, is a big if. dana bash is here to explain why. dana, it goes back to border security for republicans. does it look like this bill, at least as it now stands, is tough enough on boarder security to get republican support? >> reporter: it's tougher and looks like it could. it's not a question in the senate whether or not immigration reform will pass but by a lot of votes and talking to
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republican sources, they think that this beefing up the border security will bring maybe ten to 12 republican senators near it that wouldn't before hand. supporters say they need maybe up to 70 votes in the senate to give this issue momentum heading into the republican led house because of course there, it's a different ball game and anderson, talking to members of congress and republicans, it seems like positionings are hardening against immigration reform than softening towards it. >> how much of the bill is about politics? >> reporter: how much time do you have? of course, everything is about politics but this in particular is fascinating. it was dead for five years because it was a third rail for republicans. what happened was the 2012 election. mitt romney got 27% of the hispanic vote, plummeted since george w. bush who got 44% for his reelection and republican leaders looked at the future of the republican party and said we
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don't have one if we continue down this road because hispanic vote sg getting bigger and bigger so we have to deal and get it off the table. the problem is not everybody in the participatety agrees, a lot of people say it's amnesty now matter how you cut it. i talked to one of the leaders on this, marco rubio about this issue. listen to this. >> i can tell you politically it's as much as negative as a positive. people are really upset. i respect it and understand it. by the other token, this is hurting america. if nothing passes, this disaster we have now will stay in place. >> to negative as much as positive, is it a risk? >> there are people upset and i agree with on every other issue who are mad at us and trustful the government will do it part. >> reporter: a big part of the issue for the republicans is those from more diverse states or higher ambition like marco
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rubio are much more interested in getting immigration reform done because they are worried about being beaten by democrats that get more hispanic voters and you have the house polar rised and people from red, red districts. their concern isn't democrats but getting primary challenges from conservatives so that's why they don't want to do this. john boehner, the house speaker compared it to obamacare which is a four letter word for republicans, that kind of says it all. >> dana, thanks, interesting. let's get caught up on other stories. susan hendrix has the bulletin. >> the worst day of the year for the dow joaning dropping more than 2%. investors are unnerved about the plan to phaseout the stimulus program. they pump billions of dollars dollars into the economy every month. a criminal investigation under weigh into usis, the private firm that checked snowden's
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background. it's not known if it was prompted by the leaks. jodi arias was in court in prison clothes. the penalty trial is set for next month but her attorneys asked for a delay. in may jodi arias was convicted of murdering her ex-boyfriend. we learned james gandolfini collapsed in his hotel room around 10:00 last night and found by his family. the hospital said a heart attack was the likely cause. an autopsy is planned for friday. anderson. >> still so unbelievable. i was really shocked by that. thanks. we'll have more on the life of james gandolfini later on tonight. next, controversy to sentence a murderer to death not because he's innocent but may have been sent to death row because he's african american, also ahead, a 3-year-old boy born deaf hears for the first time. we'll talk to dr. sanjay gupta
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he asked for an appeal and the s appeal supported by someone including a texas governor, and the people that helped convict him. buck is on death row because he's african american and they point to testimony that jurors heard from an expert witness. >> reporter: there is no question dwayne buck is guilty of murder. in 1995 he shot and killed two people including his former girlfriend and wounded his stepsister in this houston house. the controversy started after a jury convicted him. that's because during the sentencing phase, former texas prison psychologist was asked this question by a prosecutor. quote you have determined that the race factor black increases the future dangerousness for various complicated reasons, is that correct? he responded yes and later in asking the jury to sentence buck to death rather than life in prison, the prosecutor told the jury quote you heard from dr.
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that there was a probability that the man would commit future acts of violence. >> it's so clear the testimony shouldn't have been put before the jury. >> reporter: linda was an attorney working the case but not just any attorney, she was one of the prosecutors and now pushing to get dwayne buck a new sentencing hearing. >> the idea that he would be walked to the execution chamber without this simple hearing boggles the mind. it just doesn't make good sense. >> reporter: walter was a lightning rod key person when the death sentence of six were overturned because of his on the verse l testimony that race is one 20 fact tomorrows that can determine if someone is likely to be a future danger to society. all of them were given new sentencing hearings and all sent to death row. dwayne buck was denied but appealing that decision.
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from game dwayne buck remembers what it was like to hear the testimony. >> she said basically because he was black he needs to die and i felt that was strange because nobody else, no prosecutor or the judge, nobody didn't -- it was like it was an everyday thing in the courts. >> reporter: another member of the prosecution's team wilson says buck doesn't deserve a new sentencing hearing because her testimony had little impact on the injure. in fact, wilson noted he was called as an expert witness for the defense and testified that the convicted killer should be sparp spared the death personal did. >> was it right? should you ever link race to why is judgment is reached no. but in buck's case that's not what happened and in the cases where that happen, it was reversed. >> reporter: we tracked him
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down. i'm with cnn and we've been trying to get ahold of you to talk to you about your testimony in several death penalty cases. >> sure. >> reporter: he invited us in. he says over the years he's received death threats. >> the allegations that -- allegations that you are racist, allegations that you are racist and that your testimony is racist, what do you say to that? >> well it's not true but of course, i have never been that type of person who will argue for me. >> reporter: he says his testimony has been misunderstood. he argues some 20 social factors can be used to determine if someone is likely to repeat violent behavior, things like age, sex, economic background, education, drug use and yes, race. >> they pick that one piece of testimony and twist it and make
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it look like race causes people to commit crimes, which is stupid. now no human being would say such thing. >> reporter: but in some of the testimony i've read you say race is a fact tomorrow as to whether or not someone will be a few tour dang future danger so you're saying if someone is black they are more likely to be danger. >> if someone has a gun, they are more likely to be dangerous. it doesn't meangun owners are violent. they are twisting it. if you do not factor in race, you are not discussing the problem seriously. >> reporter: it's unfair that if you're a black defendant and you're being compared to what a bunch of other black people are doing, that ultimately that's not fair for you, is it?
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>> it is not fair but those are the statistical studies, but when you say is likely to commit another crime because he's male, nobody objects to that. that's the same level of comparison. >> reporter: dwayne buck has one last chance to fight his death penalty sentence, a texas appeals court will decide any day this summer if he gets another shot in the courtroom. the next time we'll hear anything from the texas court of criminal appeals is next wednesday but we don't know if there will be decision in the case. i want to talk more about it with boyce wilkins. he joins us by skype and jeffrey toobin. jeff, let me start with you. is there any doubt considering race like this is a violation of this guy's constitutional rights? >> no doubt this is textbook. when i started looking into this i had to look several times because you think he didn't really say that.
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but he really did say that and he continues to -- buck and the five others hat - deserved new hearings, and the five others got the new hearings, as that story said. they were all sentenceed to death again but for some reason they won't give back a new hearings and it's just completely outrageous. >> you say this is indicative of a deeper infection that plagues the court system. >> absolutely. before we get upset with what the dock tomorrow said, we have to realize what he's doing is slapping the justice system in the face with well-documented racial disparities that exist across the country. when i started working on a massive incarceration project, according to the sentencing african american males get
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sentences 20% longer than white males when they commit the same crimes. so even though the professor was naive enough to mention race, the idea is we've been using race as a fact tomorrow for a very long time. >> jeff, what they are saying and not granting him a new hearing is that this guy was a defense witness and that makes some sort of a defense. >> i mean, the jury hears what the jury hears, regardless of who is putting forth the witness. the other factor here is texas has an unusual death penalty law in that the issue of future dangerousness is important. unfortunately, that law leads to quakery. the idea -- i mean, the legal system has a hard enough time telling people -- determining what happened in the past. the idea that you can put a psychologist on and predict future dangerousness is just absurd -- >> like that movie about the future crime, you know, fighting
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future crime. >> exactly and he's not the only psychologist who has gotten in trouble. dr. death testified all the time and gave similar ridiculous testimony but the whole idea of psychologists telling juries they can predict who is dangerous is fraud all and of itself. >> that was the minority report. >> if this case doesn't heard, what message does that send to african americans in texas and the rest of the country? >> if you look at the justice system and across the country, especially in texas, we have to realize prisons are the new slave plantations. particularly what happened with the war on drugs, african americans, particularly black men are an endangered species because of the prison complex. families are destroyed. i do cases every single day. yesterday i read a case about an
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entire family that was sent to jail because of drug distribution. our desire to hold up the law over simply doing the right thing is really destroying the fabric of our country. we're really setting our children up for a dismill future when we decide incarcerating children is more important than making our country safer and better in the long run. >> jeff, he could get -- even if he got a new sentencing hearing, he still could be sentenceed to death. >> that's exactly what happened with the other five. >> so nobody is arguing -- >> go home. >> go home. >> it's a question of he should be sentenced without race in mind. >> it just so happens, as i understand, buck is an absolutely model prisoner, talks to others on death row. a jury informed of that would take that into consideration and maybe in the hospital sentenced him to death but this is no chance that a jury could say he is not guilty. he can go home.
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most of us, of course, don't remember the first time we heard a sound, none of us do. it's impossible because it happens in the womb but grayson clamp was worn totally deaf and will never forget that moment captured on tape. >> daddy loves you, daddy loves you. >> incredible moment, of usually for grayson and his family. he was born without the nerves needed to process and hear sound. he's the first child in the united states to get what's called an auditory brain steam implant, being studied in clinical trials. he had the surgery in april in north carolina. joining me is dr. sanjay gupta.
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how does this work. >> i can't stop watching that. it's amazing when he sees hears that the first time. >> as you pointed out, anderson, the nerve from his ear to the brain stem is what he doesn't have and that's a specific hearing loss. so what they are trying to do is recreate part of the nervous system. let me show you on my brain model. so this is the right side of the brain. this -- you see the micro phone that's sort of sitting around his ear, that takes sound, processes, distills it into frequencies and there is a quire that goes to the brain stem. know this, that it takes that sound that he's hearing and sort of shuttles it all throughout the brain allowing him to have that reaction you saw there, one of total surprise and what is that as he heard his dad's voice for the first time. >> this is different than the
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cochlar implant? >> it is. the nerve from your inner ear to your brain, your brain stem that's working so you don't need to replace that. in a very small percentage of people including grayson, they don't have the nerve at all so it's a much more difficult problem in someways to tackle but the way they tackle it was to essentially create a part of his nervous system. it's just an unbelievably remarkable thing. >> watching the video he seems confused or thrown by it. i can't imagine what it's like to live that many years of your life without hearing sound and all of a sudden, hearing sound. do the doctors know how much he can hear and exactly what he hears? >> it's a great question and it's difficult to know and we asked the same thing. they say they know he is sound aware. he's clearly hearing sounds. how much he can actually process and recognize as language it's
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harder to tell one thing they said, he loves music. when he hears it he will go over and turn it louder. he seems to enjoy that. he's 3 years old and we talk about this idea that your brain is pretty plastic at that age. he's probably going to grow and learn very rapidly what to make of the sounds and transmit it into something useful for him. >> will he be able to speak at some point? >> that's what they say. we asked the same thing. they think he will be able to hear the language, understand it, and then be able to express himself through spoken language, as well. the doctors seem convinced. this is the first time it's been done on a kid in this country. it's been done in adults before but again, kids' brains are still developing so it's a little unclear how much the brain has already developed, what it will adapt to specifically but the doctors seem very, very optimistic. >> this is for a child just a testing -- it will be available
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to anybody with his condition? >> yeah, right now it's very much in testing phase. he's the first child in america to have this done. it's been approved for ten children, five of whom don't have that nerve at all from the ear to the brain. five who have the nerve but the nerve was traumatized in someway, damaged. so it's not useful. but, you know, this seems toc working so far with grayson. he's sort of the first patient. but if it continues to work and that's the dwell to make it much more widely available. >> we wish him the best and his family. sanjay thanks. >> thanks. his parents will be on "new day" starting tomorrow at 6:00. we'll be right back. i am an american success story. i'm a teacher. i'm a firefighter. i'm a carpenter. i'm an accountant. a mechanical engineer. and i shop at walmart.
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