he gives an insiders look at american life. he takes us inside the growing business of medical marijuana, sunday night 10:00 eastern on cnn. we're looking forward to it. that does it for this edition of "360." twa no survivors will be on again for 360. thanks for watching, "piers morgan" sorts now. welcome to the viewers around the world and in the united states tonight. a special look at the biggest crash crop, marijuana and the growing battle to legalize it. it's said taxing it would help the government's fiscal problems, on the other hand, some say it leads to greater danger. we'll meet the pop moms, some say it makes them better parents and reduces anxiety and morgan spurlock shows what it is like to work in a dispensary and i'll

talk to sanjay gupta about the effects on the human body. gone to pot, america's obsession. no denying the power of pot, 18 states proved it's use for medical uses and california among them now and we begin with the most intriguing group of well-healed moms that use pot and are proud of it and swears it makes them better parents. we are with cheryl shoeman and amy and glenda good. welcome to you ladies. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> you are the pop moms of beverly hills. let me start with you then, cheryl. you seem to be the ringleader of this intriguing group. in a nutshell, what is this about? >> well, i was diagnosed with cancer in 2006, and i used cannabis as a last resort to heal myself and able to stabilize myself, and when i did that, i thought it was important to come out of the closet as a corporate woman who used cannabis to basically redefine the sector.

there is a huge stereo type assigned to a cannabis user and not pretty and not a nice image. when i got cancer and started using cannabis, i wanted to redefine it, give hope and empowerment to women like me, corporate women in the world so they could be honest about their cannabis use with their children and put a new face on it and redefine it. >> you've all got children? >> yes, yes. >> and you-all use cannabis regularly and take care of your kids, so the obvious question -- let me come to you. you have a 2-year-old rg i think, right? >> correct. >> the obvious question say well you can't take cannabis and take care of your 2-year-old child on your own, can you? >> i completely disagree with that. mothers, people, parents every day take vicodin or medications to help cure their pain or for anxiety. cannabis, i know how to space it

out like someone would take tylenol -- >> what is your message? >> i like to eat maybe half of a cookie, one whole cookie is too much for me, depending on the strength. sometimes i'll take a few inhales -- >> so you're not talking a lot, a little bit but every day. >> yes, i do. >> glenda. >> yes. >> what are the benefits? all of you suffered various pains, anxieties, do you feel a physical and mental benefit from taking cannabis? >> yeah, i do. i feel like i'm able to be more interactive with my children, and they -- >> why, why do you feel that? >> because i was real sick, and they put me on these -- a lot of medications and i started consuming cannabis and they had to do surgery. i have a hysterectomy and the

cannabis helped me and once i finished with the procedure and everything, it helped me, and once i was feeling good enough to be active and everything, that helped me even better to be there more for my kids. >> so it reduced the pain? >> uh-huh. >> and reduced anxiety? >> yes. >> and you-all found that? >> ab >> absolutely. >> great for anxiety -- >> great for pms -- >> i don't deal with that any more. >> intervene use, i was in the middle of planning my memorial service when i had given up and when i went into hospice care, my daughter was my care giver and held my hand and said mom, we're going to take care of you and we found out how to get a legal garden, started it and built a multi million dollar company together. >> it's potentially going to be a huge business going forward because this is clearly the way america is moving on this debate. amy, there will be lots of moms

watching this at home saying this is outrageous, what do these women think they are doing smoking dope and looking after their kids and as they say that they are clutching a large glass of wine. >> or vodka. >> and this comes to the central debate of this which is is cannabis, marijuana, is it any different in terms of the potential harm to a parent, to a mother, to a wife, to anybody than alcohol? >> absolutely. >> absolutely, absolutely it is. for myself -- >> do you think it's less harmful, more harmful, the same? >> no, it's less harmful. marijuana is a much healthier way natural than doing vicodin or the cocktail of whatever medications that you're taking. so if you're taking a cannabis and you're -- and you're either doing it by a vapor riser or a candy or a cooky or something

like that, it is different and you can control it and you don't want more because you know what you need. >> okay. cheryl, you-all have kids and when they get to be teenagers, my understanding about marijuana is it can be more problematic in younger people below the age of 25 than it is for fully grown adults. knowing that, would you be happy for your kids to take cannabis from teenage years? >> well, i want to address one thing a moment ago. the important fact about prescription tobacco and cannabis. nobody ever died of a drug overdose of using cannabis in history of medicine. it was available for 3500 years and could be purchased on the shelves until 1937. alcohol, tobacco account for millions of deaths a year. getting back to the children issue, i had a different situation. i had to come out of the closet with my children because i had cancer and my children are grown. >> you call it coming out of the closet then? >> yes.

>> secret marijuana use? >> yes, here is what has happened. there are millions of cannabis consumers across this country and what happened because the media generally portrays this negative image and stereo type, people who have corporate jobs, high-paying jobs, children, they are afraid that will lose their children and are afraid to come out of the closet. this is similar to lgbt movement -- >> interesting. we'll reveal the results of the poll later but it suggests the majority of americans are moving in favor of legalizing marijuana in the same way that if you took the same thing on gay marriage ten years ago, not a chance, now the slight majority. >> reporter: -- are in favor of it robertson came out in favor of -- >> painting a picture as if this is the greatest thing as sliced bread and maybe it is. what are the downsides that you have to be careful of? >> you have to be careful like

any prescription drugs, we keep it safe, locked away from our daughter, keep it in a safe place -- we explained to her it's a medicine. it's for adults. it's something mommy and daddy would choose. you would take tylenol in front of your children. i see nothing wrong -- >> america is a wash with prescription -- >> absolutely. >> with prescription drugs and over-the-counter drugs. you go to any walmart and any of those places, it's just like a sea of pills that america takes. >> yeah. >> sanjay gupta did a documentary about this, america takes more than any country on planet earth. that's why the cannabis debate is particularly interesting -- >> piers. >> you say how can this be more harmful than taking vicodin. i took vicodin when i broke my ribs. it was crazy. >> they laugh at cannabis and don't take it seriously.

the big fad with young people today are prescription pill parties where they go in and raid their parents medicine cabinets, put them in a bowl, take a turn and they all take a bunch of pills. >> so they watched house and take a vicodin this. this is a real point, a lot of those pills you get through a doctor are pretty addicting. >> the thing i want to address about cannabis. >> why do you call it cannabis and not marijuana -- >> because marijuana is a slang name and cannabis is t name. >> and i think it deserves respect so i call it cannabis. >> even though you're the martha stewart of marijuana. why are you known as that? >> i was one of the first women to come out of the closet from the corporate sector and not only that but i built a magazine and a 6.5 million dollar company -- >> you must be thinking -- no disrespect you must be thinking if this carries on being legalized, this is the biggest

money your business will see, isn't it? >> this is the green rush. i knew when i got better i wanted to lead it and be a good role model. the bottom line is cannabis is here to stay. it's the tooth paste out of the tube and not going away and it's not only a plant that can heal a mar majority of illnesses. we're losing more veterans in this country from ptsd and suicide and cannabis was recognized by the va administration as being helpful. >> that is very true. it is true. a lot of these things, you can see that it could be helpful for. there will be people, let me talk to you about this, amy, there will be people watching saying i'm not buying this. i've got kids. if they take cannabis, they will take cocaine, heroin. it's a slippery slope, what do you think? >> i say you need to educate your children. you need to talk to them and let

them know. i have a 22-year-old, a 19-year-old and an 8-year-old. my 22-year-old got involved with any -- everything other than cannabis because i was involved with cannabis, and i feel that he was just trying to do something out of the box because i gave him that education. once i found out about his use, i definitely talked to him, got him some help and now he is by my side. he works with me in our business. >> could you make edible cannabis, right? >> yes, i do. >> what do you make? >> cookies, cakes. >> any variety. >> anything and everything you can do. my husband is a chef. >> can you mix it with fruit? can it have flavors? >> absolutely. part of me thought it would be four stoners in here and it would be a difficult interview. it's clearly not. you're smart women. it's good for you and legal and

coming to america fast, so ladies, thank you very much indeed. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> moms of beverly hills. inside the booming marijuana business, morgan spurlock goes to work at a pot clinic in california and tells me what he learned. that's coming up next. i am a card holdi medicine registered cannabis person in california and i use it as medicine to help the gastrointestinal issues i have after chemo therapy. shapes each lash up and out for bigger hotter flamed out volume. new flamed out mascara. hot enough for you? easy breezy beautiful covergirl. (announcenergy cycle... natural cats. they were born to play. to eat. then rest. to fuel the metabolic cycle they were born to have,

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only jazz musicians do but we all evolved. >> yeah. >> i mean, the whole country is evolving. >> evolving and for her at least, that means getting high and that's oscar nominated film maker morgan spurlock inside the booming marijuana industry. morgan spurlock is with me tonight. morgan, welcome back to you. we had a brief chat with you over the week and doing this huge pot special tonight. >> right. >> you got the show sunday, and you work in a medical marijuana dispencery in oakland, california. tell me what you found out going through. what did you go into? what was the preconceived view and what did you come out with? >> the preconceived view for me is sit was going to be a little sleazy, filled with stoners looking to get good weed and what you start to see, the clinic is run like any typical health clinic would be. it's beautiful inside. it looks better than a lot of health clinics i've been to here in new york city, the lion's

share of folks have real health problems and health issues. they have cancer, leukemia, they are dealing with mental distress or mental illness, trying to get off medication they are on, prescription medication and interesting to see these are people looking to get help. >> were you surprised how easy it was to get a medical marijuana license? >> yeah, it's pretty simple. it's -- you know, it's not like you have to have a tremendous amount of proof of an illness. i went in and talked about how stressed i was with my job. you know how it is, piers, you get strelszssed at work all the time. >> yeah. >> i talked about my stress and walked out with a card. >> and in terms of overall debit, has your view about the marijuana debate changed at all? >> when you look at a state like california and the dispencery i was in is the largest in e united states. it makes $25 million a year, the money going back into the clinic

where they offer health services for clients. they offer yoga and psychiatric treatment and psychologist treatment and people to go there and have relaxation exercises. to pour this in is a great thing and if they em late that around the country, it could be really beneficial. >> i mean, do you put the financial arguments, a lot of the ones against legalizing it are, to me, sound -- they say we'll lose jobs that we have. we'll lose jobs who have to go after the pot dealers, et cetera, et cetera. these aren't great arguments to me -- >> that's right. >> -- you can have clean centers and people can deal with complaints legally, it's controlled and also, the money you could bring in is pretty substantial. billions of dollars from taxing this. >> that's right. >> and also, you know, i would assume as i've just interviewed one of these pot moms with a

thriving business, it will create a whole new world of jobs anyways. >> the green rush is happening now for people that want dispensaries and grow it and be the middleman to help transport it. i think there are a tremendous amount of people fighting against it. one is the prison corporations. we created a situation in the united states now where we create corporate businesses that are prisons that only can operate and function by keeping those prisons full and so it's in their best interest to keep these drugs illegal. we have thrown a tremendous number of people in prison for first-time offenses when it comes to marijuana and they want to make sure they stay open because they make millions and millions of dollars. >> these moms all get prescribed specific amounts like it is a prescription drug, not very much by the sound of it. none of them seem to be taking it to get high necessarily. >> yeah. >> it's for pain relief or anxiety, what you expect a

prescription drug to do. one of the arguments is the strength of cannabis on the streets is much stronger in recent years and dangerous. if you had it in a more controlled legalized environment, you could deal with that. >> and you know what you're getting. if you buy it on a street corner from some guy selling it, you don't know what you get. when you go into a clinic, they can tell you the dosage, how powerful. you know it's not mixed with other chemicals that can be dangerous. that's part of the thing you were talking about. here are these moms taking prozac and vicodin and xanax and the moment somebody says they are taking cannabis or marijuana product, you're seen as a criminal, and i think part of what you have to do is change that stigma. >> absolutely. fascinating subject, morgan, a great show you've got on sunday "inside man" premieres june 23rd at 10:00 p.m. eastern.

>> cheers, piers. next, if alcohol and cigarettes are legal, then why isn't marijuana? will legization lead to more addiction? >> it's more medical than anything. it helps you as opposed to hurt you. you don't hear nothing about people going out, you know, doing crazy crimes on marijuana, getting into driving accidents, none of that. you see people calm, relaxed and dealing with medical problems or staying to themselves and being on they own little ride. rement . money has to last longer. i don't want to pour over pie charts all day. i want to travel, and i want the income to do it. ishares incomes etfs. low cost and diversified. find out why nine out of ten large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus, which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal.

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alcohol consumption is the third, both kill and both are legal. why is smoking pot a crime? is it time to end the war on marijuana? we are here with our guests, also with us david evans, a criminal defense attorney, special advisor to drug free america coalition. let me start with you, neil. you're the head of a group of law enforcement officers that want to stop the war on drugs. what is the reality of that war? >> the reality of that war is very, very dangerous communities and a nightmare for law enforcement. we have thousands of murders across this country every single year. we talk about the numbers of murders in mexico, but nobody is talking about the murders we have in this country. in 2009 journalists and i els mated that number on the low end to be over 6,500 murders the result of drug prohibition policies in our country, right in our own backyard, so let's

reduced and the violence we have in our communities, stop filling up the jails. the jails are not institutions of higher learning. they go to prison, come back out into the community, can't get jobs, but the drug trade will hire them back into a violent cycle again. >> david evans, that's all undeniably true and you wish to continue to criminal wise marijuana, why? >> there that is not undeniable true there is false statements in what he said. legalizing drug social security a very naive approach. it's simplistic and simply isn't going to work. i say it's naive because what will happen if you legalize drugs and if you legalize marijuana, that all the commercial interests will come into play. it's not just about legalizing it so you can have a joint at home in the privacy of your

home. it will be a big industry and they will focus on the young people just like alcohol and tobacco focuses on young people because if they get them hooked, they will have customers the rest of their lives. >> wait a minute -- >> it's absolutely untrue -- >> no, no, you wait a minute, hold on. >> okay. >> the point of the debate is it any more harmful, marijuana, than tobacco or alcohol? most of the scientific evidence suggests that it's no more harmful, in which case you may not like the fact that people can buy and smoke cigarettes or buy and smoke alcohol but it's perfectly legal. it's now perfectly legal to do the same with cannabis in at least two states and many more are following. if it's no more harmful, that's the only reason that i can see that you would have this whole debate in the first place. if it's no more harmful, why not legalize it? >> piers, your very poorly informed on the dangers of marijuana. marijuana combines the worst

aspects of tobacco and the worst aspects of alcohol. it's mind-altering and addictive and kids coming into college with higher rates of marijuana depen dance than alcohol dependence. it's not caught up with the recent science. if people looked at the recent science, they would see marijuana is -- has more properties than tobacco. the department of environmental department of air considered it to be a carsigen. young you talk about deaths of the cartels, in california drug driving is surpassing drug driving so more depths on hide ways. most of those people will be young people that will be dying. >> you're painting a very bad picture here, have you taken marijuana yourself? >> i smoked pot in -- >> you're still alive. you haven't killed anyone.

you haven't gone crazy. you seem perfectly well. you seem reasonably rational. >> marijuana then was a benign substance than today. today it's highly addictive. the thc is a lot higher -- >> that's exactly -- >> that is exactly the argument as to why you should legalize it because there is so much stronger stuff on streets, the best way to deal with this surely is to legalize it, control it, prescribe it and, you know, as these mothers showed me earlier, in small doses it will enhance people's lives, not ruin it. >> you can't control the amount of thc in a substance and if people want the stronger thc it will go to the black market anyway. you need to look at europe. in great britain they reversioned the marijuana policy, decrime utilized it and recriminal utilized it because they had problems with kids going into mental institutions because of high to tendency

marijuana. the netherlands made high potency -- >> let me bring back neil frank. your reaction to this? >> piers, most of your listeners know the information mr. evans is giving us right now is false but even if it were true, i ask this question, why would we continue to support the policy that's causing all of the problems that mr. evans is referring to, but why would we continue to support a policy that puts more drug dealers on our street corners who are not regulated or controlled? they hire kids to sell marijuana and other drugs to kids. there is a reason they call them pushers, because they push drugs on people when you go to them for marijuana, they will push other drugs on people. it's the environment that's more dangerous than anything else for our young people. so it's not only dangerous for

them because more drugs, deadly drugs are available to them, no quality control measures but the streets have become very violent. tools of the trade are guns. that's why we have high gun violence in our country today. the vast majority of the murders on our streetsd directly related to drug prohibition. >> that's what i'm talking about naive -- >> mr. evans, mr. evans, if i have plenty of time, i have to leave it there. >> thank you. >> the poll, marijuana, 48% of americans said they have tried pot in their lifetime and should marijuana be made legal, yes 52%, no 45%. neil franklin, david evans thank you. >> thank you. are the marijuana moms we saw earlier helping or harming their families by using cannabis? a lot of questions and we'll get answers from dr. sanjay gupta and other experts after this break.

>> i don't know how i feel about legalized pot smoking because of the differences that alcohol is something that's consumed as part of food, wine and you can you can drink alcohol ask say i had enough. drugs are consumed for the purpose of being mind-altering substances. i want to make things more secure.

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what's that, mommy? this is a joint. it's made of marijuana. mari what? >> my turn. >> all right. mommy will see you in a few minutes. okay? >> taking a hit, that's one of the marijuana moms i spoke to earlier. they say it makes them better parents but can it and what are the medical facts of weed now? dr. sanjay gupta is working on a documentary about marijuana and psychologist howard samuels, the founder and ceo of the hills treatment center. sanjay, the statements by one of my last guests, what is your reaction to the dark, gloomy picture he was painting? >> let me say we have been working on this documentary for

a year now. as a neuro scientists i wanted to learn about this. there was so much he was saying that simply wasn't true. first of all, his comparison to alcohol and prescription medications and saying this was far worse, it's just not true. it -- depending how you define far worse, it is, you know, there is people who overdose on these prescription medications every 19 minutes in this country, every 19 minutes somebody dies of a prescription drug overdose. doesn't happen with marijuana. it's classified in this country as a schedule one substance and he conceded it has no medical benefit whatever. that's not true. we know there is medical benefits. i've seen the studies with my eyes around the united states and around the world and this idea of high abusive or addictive potential. it can be addictive but compared to other things, it's about 9% roughly of people might become adibl addicted compared to 15, 16% for

alcohol and 17% lsd or heroin. a lot of propaganda, piers. >> the thing you gleamed in the making of the documentary over the last year, as you say. is there any logical scientific backed reason why if tobacco and alcohol are legalized, marijuana should not be regular wilegaliz? >> i can't find that. there is a fair amount of hypocrisy and we've been researching this and looking at this. you can pick just about any met trick you want, you talk about comparisons between alcohol and marijuana and keeping the discussion about adults now, you know, people whose brains are fully formed, the long-term impact of alcohol versus marijuana much worse with alcohol. the overall impact on your body in terms of developing liver disease, krard yak disease, with

alcohol, the hypocrisy is quite stunning, i think, piers, when you start to look a little below the surface. >> let me bring in howard samuels now. obviously, you run a big treatment center and you're a psychologist. so you deal with people with these problems. what is your view. >> without question legalizing marijuana would be a huge mistake, okay? i treat a lot of people that come in very addicted to marijuana, have smoked it every day for years. i see anxiety disorders. i see panic attacks. i see huge inability to deal with feelings in a healthy way. you know, the young adults today, to learn how to deal with feelings, you need to learn how to express anger, hurt feelings and when you medicate and numb them with marijuana, you push all those feelings down. >> here is what i would say to

you, that is also true of numerous prescription drugs. >> without question. >> so -- >> and i'm against those, also. >> okay. >> i mean, this country needs and wants to get loaded. this is what this whole debate is about. what are we doing? >> this country is already seriously medicated. sanjay did a beautiful documentary and you go to the stores and see it racked up. >> this is where the problem is. >> big business. >> everybody wants to check out in this country, whether it's marijuana, whether it's alcohol, whether it's prescription. that's what this alcohol fight is about. what are we doing? what do i tell my 12-year-old who says to me, hey, dad, i thought marijuana was bad for you and they are talking about legalizing it. >> talk about sanjay, what is your reaction? >> look, he's taking a very safe path here. i'm against all of it is especially what he's saying it. i have three young children.

i'm not in love with the idea of a parent being high on marijuana when they are taking care of a small child, as i'm not excited about them being drunk or taking pain pills. i would agree with that part of it. i would ask the doctor, marijuana is a schedule one substance and lsd, cocaine is a schedule two substance. do you think it should be a schedule one substance? >> see, to that to me sounds absolutely ridiculous. >> that is ridiculous. there should be no way that people should be going to prison for marijuana or heroin or cocaine. we need to have treatment centers to treat the addiction and decriminal wise the drugs. >> so you would decriminalize all drugs? >> no, i would have to make them legal. am i going to tell my children is marijuana and heroin is as safe as an aspirin. >> so you would fine people but not imprison them. >> absolutely. >> sanjay, your documentary, but

the way america is trying to legislate this, what do you think is the most sensible course of action? >> it's extraordinary, piers, if you think about it. in the medication sense, that's essentially been approved by the voters. typically this goes to the fda. there is a process of clinical trials. in this case it's been voted on at the state level. this is relatively new phenomen phenomenon. for 3,000 years marijuana was a legitimate mid case in tedicati form larrys. i traveled around the world and in jerusalem, the father of thc, he isolated it and when you see patien patients vapor rising it in the hallways. they believe it works and provide as benefit that other medications cannot and they can do it more safely this way.

so, you know, if i sound a little bit up in arms of it, i find it irresponsible that we've been denying people effective medications here for so long and cannot understand the reason why. >> okay. final word to you. >> okay. i think those medications are for pain and health, not emotional issues. there is no question that marijuana and all these drugs create serious emotional issues in young people, and that is my greatest -- >> let me ask you one point about that, sanjay. this thing about the age people take marijuana, is there scientific research that supports the theory, if you're under 25 it could have more effect on you emotionally, psychologically if you're under 25? >> i looked at the studies on this, as well, like the doctor has but one was cog thattive and iq and not a great study but a study that looked specifically at kids who started earlier on

in life and 25 is a good number they picked because that's -- the brain is more fully developed and had on average eight iq points lower by the time they were 3. the other one resolved around psychological addiction, a type of dependence and found one in six children that smoked marijuana before the age of 25 were likely to become dependent or addicted. those are the studies i found. regarding emotional dependence and things the doctor is siting. i haven't seen those studies. you have your experience but the moral equivalence, piers, that you've done a brilliant job here, how is it compared to other things they are exposed to -- >> right, see, that to me -- right, that to me is the key to the debate. if it in the end doesn't have a worse effect than tobacco or alcohol, the argument against legalization to me falls apart and that's where i think some of the states are coming from.

>> and i totally understand that but what is our response? that we keep on making drugs legal that really have a tremendous amount of benefit? aren't we being ir responseble to our children to set them up to have another thing out there to get more disfunctional and have more problems emotionally? >> well -- >> do we have a responsibility. >> i think we do. i'm looking forward to seeing sanjay's documentary. thank you. coming up next is star. >> tax it. i snow lots of people that smoke lots of pot. they don't get a lot done. this day calls you.

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how to make money selling drugs. it exposes the journey that drug dealers go on, how they make money and so on. what are the key conclusions that you personally have drawn about the marijuana debate? >> well, that we're going about it all wrong. we need to stop throwing people in jail. stop using s.w.a.t. teams and military action in our neighborhoods to find them and throw them in jail for long periods of time. >> i mean, 853,000 arrests for marijuana violations in 2010. 750,000 people arrested for possession. one person arrested every 19 seconds. >> well, not to mention that those arrests are disproportionately targeting minorities and people in poor neighborhoods. so that's all -- the weakest members of our society are being targeted. we should be helping them, not targeting them. >> having said all this, what we

don't want to do is encourage the use of america to think that all drugs are fine. how do you tackle the easing of legislation perhaps with marijuana with the harder stuff? >> i think we need to educate the youth of america. i mean, the film "how to make money selling drugs" is targeted to kids. we want young people to see this movie. that's why it's spoken so plainly. young people are on the internet. they see a lot. but what they don't have are adults talking to them straight, telling them how it is so they can make educated choices about what to do in the right circumstances and what not to do. >> let's take a little clip from the movie. this is one of the young drug dealers that is interviewed. >> ninth grade. up to that point i was a student that didn't participate. then they were like, how many

grams were in an ounce? i was like, 28. how many pounds are in a kilo? 2.2? and do you want to know how much it costs? >> they're not necessarily as you rightly say the most evil people on earth. they stumble into these things. >> they're working under the circumstances that they're working under. but the truth is, all these guys are great human beings, and they went down the wrong path. i'm not saying you should become a drug dealer or do drugs. it's typically a bad choice if you have a problem with it. the problem is a lot of money isn't put into programs to educate first and foremost. and then to help people who stray. >> tell us some of the biggest problems? i have three teenage sons. one of the big problems in communication is that they see these old politicians, you know, in their stuffy suits saying how evil it is and how awful it is

and how you're going the hate yourself and hate doing it. of course, the reason so many people do take drugs is that most of them enjoy it. that's part of the problem. you have to tackle that reality check, i think, with young people. >> you're not going to dictate your child's behavior every moment. so the idea is, you have to create responsible adults. and the only way to do that is to give them the information and let them make their way and figure it out for themselves. so when they're on their own they can decide i'm not going to participate, it's not responsible. or this is something i should avoid. >> when willie nelson came on here recently, he had mentioned he had partaken of a joint the same morning. i have to ask you the same question. >> i think one of the luxuries of having obama admitting to smoking pot, we can all admit it now. of course i have. >> this morning? >> only onset. >> adrian, it's an important

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