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a couple of quick headlines. after admitting she used a racial slur on youtube. the network says they are reviewing our business relationship with miss deen. plans are settled for the funeral of actor james gandolfini. he died of a heart attack wednesday in italy. his body is expected to arrive back in the united states tomorrow. he was 51 years old. i'm don lemon, thanks for joining us. good night. for two years, the bodies of black children had been found in the woods, then the rivers of atlanta, georgia.
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in all, more than two dozen victims, most of them strangled. by may 1981, the police and fbi were hiding in the brush, beside and below the river bridges. this was to be the last night, almost the last hour. >> i heard the splash. >> bob campbell, a police recruit, jumped to his feet down beside the chatahoochie river. he looked up at the bridge. >> i saw the brake lights of a car come on, i saw red lights. the car started slowly moving away from me across the bridge. >> campbell radioed the other team members up above him. >> i asked, did a car stop on the bridge? i couldn't believe what i saw. each person told me they didn't see it. >> then a policeman in a chase
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car hidden on the other side came on the radio. >> he just said the car is pulling in the parking lot here turning around in front of me, started coming back across the bridge, coming back in my direction. >> this is that white station wagon. police followed it and stopped it nearby. fbi agent mike pacombis rushed to the scene. the driver was standing by the highway. >> he was talking with the officers. saw a black male. he had on a baseball hat, had on glasses. >> the young man was wayne williams, about to turn 23. a self-anointed music talent scout who slept days and roamed the city at night. macombis invited williams over to the car. >> i said do you know why we are here? he said, yes, it's about the missing children. that kind of stunned me. i said, what do you know about that? he said, well, i don't think that the various news agencies are covering it adequately, do
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you? >> two weeks later, this headline would break the news of that night on the bridge. wayne williams would be sent to prison to serve two life sentences for murder. at first glance, he hardly looks like a serial killer, not much more than 5 1/2 feet tall, barely 150 pounds, now in his 50s and growing bald. >> the bottom line is, nobody ever testified or even claimed they saw me strike another person, choke another person, stab, beat, kill or hurt anybody. because i didn't. >> this is the first time wayne williams has talked on tv in at least a decade. why do you think you were convicted? >> fear. >> what do you mean? >> atlanta at the time was in a panic. they wanted any suspect they could find. let's just be honest, it had to
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be a black person because if it had been a white suspect, atlanta probably would have gone up in flames. it came very close to that. >> do you think you'll ever be free? >> no. that is not a matter of if to me, it's a matter of when. >> some 30 years after wayne williams' trial and conviction, there is still debate and some doubt. this time you can be the judge and the jury. we'll lay out the evidence on both sides. you'll hear from wayne williams at length. then we'll invite you to reach your own verdict, guilty, innocent or a third choice, not proven. the first clue was found on a dead boy's dennis shoes. the victim was eric middlebrooks, his body left here in a rainy alley, a foster child who rode his bicycle away one night on an earned. and was dead by dawn. detective bob buffington saw
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something red stuck to eric's tennis shoe. >> i noticed in the flap of the edge of this shoe this tuft of what to me appeared to be wool. that was it. we could find no other evidence. >> back at homicide, buffington showed the fibers to his superiors. >> the lieutenant made a big joke out of it and told the rest of the squad if i went over to the let's house and cleaned out the lint trap in his dryer, we could probably clear out all the cases in the city of atlanta. >> still, buffington sent the fibers to the state crime laboratory. a young forensic scientist larry peterson took a look. why was a fiber stuck in the crack of a shoe important? >> it was loosely there. people don't normally have tufts of carpet fibers loosely stuck
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in their shoe. >> from those few thin threads, peterson would begin to build a case to try to catch a killer. >> how many fibers across the board did you look at every day in this case, when the case really started getting busy? 100, 500, 1,000? >> literally, there's going to be hundreds if not thousands of fibers there depending upon the case. >> in the spring of 1980, no one wanted to believe a serial killer was loose in the city. even when bob buffington spotted a disturbi inin ining pattern. >> there had been a sharp increase in the number of children under the age of 14 who had been killed. >> when he told his boss at homicide, the major threaten ed to move him, ji think they were afraid it would be a panic. >> it was this mother after the
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loss of her 9-year-old son who finally forced police to listen, but not until almost a year after her boy died. camille bell and her children lived in these project apartments, poor to the eye, but rich in mind and spirit. yousef bell was an honor student in the gifted program at school. on a warm october sunday in 1979, he walked away on an earned to buy snuff for an elderly lady downstairs. >> he went bare footed in a pair of brown shorts. he got to the store. he bought the snuff. he started back home. >> less than half a block from this store, yousef bell stepped off this curb and vanished. >> and nobody saw anybody do anything or anything, but they didn't see him come back across the street. that's the last that we saw him.
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>> camille bell called the police. they came and said they would write a report. that's all. days went by. camille waited with two older children and yousef's 3-year-old sister. >> she is terrify ied. if he can go to the store and they can steal him then she doesn't want to leave the house. she doesn't want to do anything. >> camille hid her own fear from her children. >> you've got to hold them together so you can't act as scared as you are. >> the body of yousef was found in an abandoned schoolhouse. >> his body would not turn up for another month. yousef bell had been strangled. >> all of the, what could have been, should have been and probably would have been was taken away. we'll never know now because somebody decided that it was all
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right to just kill a little kid because they wanted to. >> for a long time, the 3-year-old would look for yousef every time it was a foggy day. >> we would go out into the fog and she would go as far as she could into the fog. i'd say, come back here and she would say, i've got to go find my brother. she said the clouds came down so yousef can come down. >> the child, her mother said, had confused the fog with heaven. >> still ahead, the boy who was too brave. >> he was like, man, i want to find this killer and get this reward money. >> a drive-by threat against the fbi chief's child. >> some guy in a pick-up truck said, i'm going to get you, nigger. >> in the end, the curious question of the cia.
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>> when you're 19 years old, you're saying you worked for the cia. you've been recruited. >> i let the document speak for itself. >> then -- >> do you know how to kill someone with a choke hold? that is a yes or no answer. >> no it's not. >> yes, it is, actually. do you know how to kill someone with a choke hold? >> no, it's not. all business purchases. so you can capture your receipts, and manage them online with jot, the latest app from ink. so you can spend less time doing paperwork. and more time doing paperwork. ink from chase. so you can.
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in the spring of 1980, police were still reluctant to listen to camille bell. >> children were dying on the streets of atlanta in the daytime. >> among them, jeffrey mathis only 10. like yousef bell, he walked down the street on an errand to this gas station to buy cigarettes for his mother. she never saw him again. >> what we had here was a predator. what he was looking for was somebody cut off from the herd. if you don't realize you're in trouble until you're in trouble, then you have no way of getting out. >> it would be another year before jeffrey mathis' body was found in a woods miles from his home. his mother would join camille bell in forming a committee to confront the city's leaders. >> the reaction of the police
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was that we were overreacting, and that there was no serial killer. >> even though by now, six black children were dead. four others were missing. >> perhaps we were like distraught parents that really needed everyone's sympathy, but nobody needed to do anything. >> for years, it has been a dirty little secret among the press and the police, deaths of blacks draw less attention than deaths of whites. >> nobody cared. so you could have several killings go on and if the people were poor, then no one discovered there was a serial killing. if you were black and poor, then really nobody looked. especially if you're black and poor and southern. >> police were slow to recognize these deaths were different. many of the bodies were left in
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the woods far from home, unlike most murder victims who are found where they fall. >> unsolved murders of children is very rare. if a 9-year-old got killed, it was because somebody slapped him across the room, he hit his head and he died. >> police did not create a task force until a year after the first murders began. fbi profiler roy hazelwood came down to help. three detectives drove him around the city and turned into jeffrey mathis' neighborhood. >> soon as we turned on to that street, everything stopped. a guy cutting the grass stopped, guys playing dominos on the porch stopped. i said, what's going on? i said everything stopped. they said laughingly, that's because we have a honky in the car. >> john glover who took over as fbi chief in atlanta that summer says that's why he and hazelwood
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decided the killer had to be black. >> the killer is someone who is invisible in the black community and who is invisible in the black community but another black person? >> welcome harris was one of the first task force detectives. he knew it had to be someone who went unnoticed. >> we felt it was somebody who could come in the neighborhood and get these children and not draw attention to themselves. >> the question of which race struck a raw nerve. it had been only a dozen years since the murder of dr. martin luther king. on the surface, atlanta was a well integrated city. beneath the surface, it remained separate and unequal. >> my prayer and the prayer of everybody in there was we wanted the person to be black. the reason why you wanted them to be black, i knew what it would do to this town if it had
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been a white person or somebody of another race. >> in the black community in the early '80s, a black serial killer was unheard of. all the classic serial killers were white. never black. >> didn't mean you didn't have one now. >> today, black serial killers are not rare. in 2009 here in cleveland, as well as in milwaukee and los angeles, each time the accused serial killer turned out to be african-american. dr. eric hickey is a psychologist who keeps track of serial killers. >> overall in my study, one out of every five serial killers is african-american. in the past since 1995, over 40% are african-american. we are finally saying, blacks do this, too. >> there were whites who fed the
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fear in atlanta. as fbi chief john glover had moved into this upper class white neighborhood, his 12-year-old son was playing outside one afternoon. >> some guy in a pick-up truck, he was out in the yard and, our side yard, we were on a corner with a corner lot, you know, said i'm going to get you, nigger. as he was driving by. >> kaseem reed was only 10 when the first two bodies were found in the woods close to his home in the summer of 1979. >> my life did change. >> how so? >> not out as late as you used to be. not able to ride your bike unaccompanied. >> in 2010, reed would become the mayor of atlanta. back then as the youngest boy in his family, his teenage brothers were his protectors. >> i didn't move without my brothers for about a year.
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>> the bulk of the victims were boys like you. >> you're right. >> your age. >> right. >> black boys. >> yes. >> did you personally feel afraid? >> i can't honestly say that i really felt afraid, except for at moments. you would have a van slow down and everybody was very mindful of advance at the time. people were suspicious of everybody. they were afraid. and children walking the street, car go by, you see some of them are in fear. >> for good reason, the murders were about to increase to a body almost every week. ♪ a time of struggles >> coming up, a creature of the night. >> then an ex-news reporter in
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the nighttime, that's the time i'm out most of the time. >> and a mystery within a mystery. >> he walked in the back of the studio and he had horrible scratches on his arms. he said he had fallen into a bush.
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so many of the children who died were poor, who earned spending money carrying groceries, running errands or pedalling car deoderizers outside this market new year's 1981. his mother worried about going off on his own. >> they said he's a big boy. they had to catch him first. >> he was a good student, a sophomore in high school, a witness at the shopping center that day saw lubie with a man and helped a police artist draw this sketch, a man with a baseball cap, perhaps a scar on his cheek. lubie never came home. >> i believe he had been kidnapped. >> police searched the woods
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around atlanta. they did not find lubie. instead, police found two other bodies, young boys who had disappeared ten miles and a month apart, yet both left here at the same dumping ground. the number of known dead now 15. the unsolved murders of so many children had become front page news, around the nation and the world. >> this is the reward. >> the city announced a $100,000 reward soon to grow to half a million. the task force was swamped with sketches of suspects, none of them alike, many suggested by psychics. at the state crime lab, larry peterson was sifting through thousands of fibers, nylon, rayon, acrylic, acetate. is it like looking for a needle in a hay stack?
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>> like multiple needles in multiple hay stacks. >> then in january 1981, a breakthrough. peterson realized they were seeing one green carpet fiber with a unique shape. this is a cross section of that fiber magnified many times. >> this particular fiber had two very, very large lobes and one short lobe. >> the lobes are the three ends of the boomerang shape. >> the shape was the most distinctive piece of the fiber. >> he showed me a slide taken from another carpet. >> this is a single tuft of the carpet cut in cross section. >> i can't tell that's green. >> even putting the tiny fibers under the microscope didn't help me. how can you tell what color this is? in this, this green carpet because of that light green looks very whitish. >> the colors seen microscopically will not be
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identical. >> a more sophisticated microscope. >> let me open this up. >> can separate colors to identify a specific fiber. we took another look. now you're talking. now peterson knew what to look for. >> when what is looking at the fiber at first, i had no idea who had made it. i just knew it was distinctive and i would recognize it instantly. >> he didn't know where to find it. wayne williams was not yet on anyone's radar. he freelanced as a tv cameraman who shot fires and overnight news. >> i know the streets of atlanta. i've been around a while. been an ex-news reporter. nighttime is me. that's the time i'm out most of the time. >> now almost 23, a wanna-be music producer, he was trying to form a singing group modelled
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after the jackson five. this receipt shows he had an alibi, auditioning young singers from 4:30 to 8:30 that evening. >> the studio was a small demo studio. >> kathy andrews was co-owner of that studio. >> to my best recollection, he auditioned young kids for a group that never existed. they were roughly as young as 8 and as old for the kids they were as old as 11 or 12. >> now living in another state, kathy andrews did not want her face shown because of what she saw on another day at her studio. >> at one point in time he came for one of the sessions, he walked to the back of the studio and he had horrible scratches on his arms. >> deep and painful, crisscrossing both arms. >> it was more this way and that way and that way and that way and that way and that way. and they were angry looking.
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and when i looked at him, the first words out of my mouth was, oh, wayne, what happened? that looks awful. he said he had fallen into a bush. >> 15-year-old terry pugh died late that january. his body dumped on a roadside 20 miles from home. he had been strangled. >> whoever kill him he had to usle with him because he had scratches all over. >> it gives me chills down my spine still. >> to this day, kathy andrews does not believe wayne's explanation. >> he did not fall in a bush. it was after he realized it it was fairly obvious. i don't know what else could have caused that wound on his arm. >> the intervals between murders were shrinking. 19 days from lubi's disappearance until terry pugh's death, then 15 days until the
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next victim. soon 13. then 11. before long, a body a week. fbi profiler roy hazelwood says this is not unusual for serial killers. >> they come to believe that they in fact, are almost immune to mistakes, if you will. and they can take greater risks because it's more exciting and because they're so superior they don't have to worry about the inferior police catching them. >> after a month, lubie jeter' body would be found in the woods, the boy left naked except scraps of underwear. the medical examiner would testify jeter apparently had been killed by, quote, a choke hold around the neck, a forearm across the neck. it's a question we'll have reason to ask wayne williams by the end of all of this. it's a very simple question. can you kill someone with a
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choke hold? when you were 19 years old -- >> you probably could. >> i know for a fact i could not. when we return -- the boy who wanted to catch a killer. >> the body was indeed another victim of atlanta's child killer or killers. >> i just know right away it was his body. oh, my god, mama. >> later, a failed lie detector test. >> it surprised him that he didn't beat that polygraph test. he was convinced he could beat the test. matt's brakes didn't sound right... ...so i brought my car to mike at meineke...
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there is yet another twist in the missing and murdered children case. >> atlanta is a city of frustrations and fears. >> the number of missing and murdered children grow. >> the body was another victim of atlanta's child killer or killers. >> patrick was the kid convinced he could catch a killer. >> he was like, man, i want to find this killer and get this reward money. i'm going to buy my mom a house. i'm going to do this and i'm going to find this killer.
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>> his stepmother sheila was worried. >> for 10, 11-year-old child to be talking like that that was just like, wow, where is his mind at? >> patrick was a latch key child, living unsupervised with an older brother in a project apartment near downtown. >> he was very streetwise. >> he stayed out late at night, often at the omni center, now the headquarters of cnn, but back then a hotel complex with an indoor skating rink and game room for kids. >> that's where he spent a lot of his time at, at the games arcade. >> wayne williams was known to frequent the omni, passing out these fliers as a talent scout to offer audition for boys aged 11 on up. >> 15 kids are dead two, others officially missing. >> by early february 1981, more than a dozen young african-american boys had been
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found dead. many dumped in the woods around atlanta. >> i was very fearful. >> sheila pleaded to send patrick back home to the rest of his family in rural louisiana. >> if i had somewhere to send my son, i would have sent my son. >> one evening, a white man in a big car appeared to threaten patrick and a small friend. >> the little boy said patrick said, man that, might be the killer. >> patrick used a pay phone to call police. he told them a man was chasing me and my friend in a brown cadillac. >> actually, thought it was a crank phone call. they didn't send a car out. >> this is a sketch the other boy provided to police after patrick was dead. two weeks later on february 6th, patrick stopped by the restaurant where his father worked to ask for money. then walked back toward the
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omni. he never made it home that night. >> i'm like, he didn't come home. oh, my god. that was the first thing that popped in my head, missing. murdered. oh, my god. >> the atlanta missing persons bureau continue their hunt for this missing child. >> one day seemed like it was a week. that was the longest search in the world. >> it was almost 2:00 p.m. when the maintenance man found a young black boy. >> a maintenance man spotted a body tossed down into the woods behind a parking lot at a suburban office complex. >> the bank was fairly steep. >> the medical examiner had to hold on to a rope to get down to the scene. >> he had a ligature mark on his neck like if someone was off to
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the side behind you and close thard hands or fist together and pulled the ligature, basically. >> in other words, killed from behind. >> most likely, yes. >> state crime lab scientist larry peterson attended the autopsy. >> i can recall one autopsy pulling a fiber off one of the victims. it was a green carpet fiber and founded the sample under the slide. when i looked, it was the same one. >> the body was indeed another victim of atlanta's child killer or killers. >> local television carried these pictures live from the crime scene. >> it was one of the three children listed as missing. >> sheila got a call from her mother. >> she said, they found another body. she say, i really feel like this is patrick's body here.
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you know? oh, my god. >> if he is one of the three missing children, the chances are strong he was 11-year-old patrick baldazar. >> they went to the funeral home to identify their child. >> they told we he had struggled, you know, for his life. and seeing the print, the rope print across his neck all the way around the front. >> at patrick's funeral, she would insist on an open casket. >> i just wanted the world to
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see that this child could have been anybody's child. >> patrick's fifth grade classmates wrote a poem read at his funeral. this from local tv coverage that day. >> patrick, our school mate, you came to school though sometimes late, but you were never mean to anyone. you tried to help people and thought it was fun. then one night, one terrible night, you didn't come home, not even at daylight. something's happened to that boy, the people said. patrick is missing. is patrick dead? we cried some and we bowed our heads. >> and hope for your safety and prayers were said. oh god, please bring back that
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missing boy. when he returns, we will shout for joy. the police and the news people came and went. in our hearts was no content. no one could rest until we knew whatever, whatever had happened to you. then one day your body was found out in the woods on the cold, cold ground. someone killed you and dumped you there. it was a mad cruel person who did not care. there was not a word about how you died. it is no wonder that we all cried. patrick, we miss you and wish you knew, how much your school mates grieve for you. just ahead -- the plan, under suspicion. >> it was an entire family of
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brothers that were involved in the klan. >> a disappearing nylon cord. >> could have been the murder weapon, as far as i know. all business purchases. so you can capture your receipts, and manage them online with jot, the latest app from ink. so you can spend less time doing paperwork. and more time doing paperwork. ink from chase.
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in february 1981, a troublesome tip reached the police. a man involved in the ku klux klan could be atlanta's serial killer. >> atlanta was about to explode and here was information potentially that the klan could have been doing this. >> bob ingram with the gbi,
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georgia's bureau of investigation got the case. >> it was an entire family of brothers that were involved in the klan that were the focus of this particular intelligence information. >> an informant said one brother threatened lubie jeter, the child found dead only weeks before. the klan associate lived here on a dead end street in the railroad town of mountain view, on the outskirts of atlanta. >> we're tapping telephones. we heard a lot of rhetoric. we heard a lot of racial slurs. >> on one wiretap, the detectives heard this said. "go find you another little kid." the gbi followed the four brothers for almost two months. >> these family members were under surveillance at that time, physical surveillance where we had an eyeball on them. >> in those two months, six more black youths would disappear and
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die. detectives saw nothing to link the klan to them. >> if somebody was in there with a van or two or three men who, you know, to grab somebody and dump them in the back of a van, people would have noticed if they were white. >> the brothers were called in. they took lie detector tests and passed. >> they were polygraphed and cleared as to their involvement in the killing of atlanta's children. >> clearing the klan didn't stop the murders. jojo bell vanished during the surveillance. he used to hang out at this seafood carryout place. manager richard harp. >> you come here and do anything, i give a dollar. just long as he get money to buy stuff at the store, something like that. >> joe joe bell unrelated to
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yousef bell came by captain peg's one last time. >> about 3:30, 4:00 monday. he came by and stuck his head in the door. he said, richard, i'm going to basketball. see you later. throw his hand up, went up the street. >> to a school yard basketball court like this. this witness, lugene laster knew jojo and saw him leave the game. he said he left in a station wagon that looked like this. laster testified he got in the car, got in wayne's car. in court, laster would identify wayne williams as the driver. lugene laster. >> okay. >> he's pretty much an eyewitness. said that you gave a ride to jojo bell in your station wagon. >> okay. >> did you? >> no, i did not. >> you fervor gave a ride to jojo bell? >> no, i did not. >> williams did not deny he was the
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he insist the his passenger had to be someone else. joe joe bell was never to be seen again. >> it would be horrendous if another child dies, period. >> a week later sammy davis jr. and frank sinatra came to atlanta for a concert to benefit the children. the photographer up on stage, that's wayne's father, homer williams, with the black newspaper "atlanta world." >> how come you got no tuxedo on there? on stage looking like that there. >> reporter: back stage with sammy davis jr. in a photo which made the front page. that's future mayor kassim reid. >> i remember that. it's so cool meeting frank sen ought are a. >> as a young child, reid would help the volunteers searching atlanta's woods every saturday. >> we would walk through wooded areas, and we would walk for a
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period of time until about an hour before nightfall. >> reporter: but now a new twist in the murders. patrick balthizar, the 20th victim, would be the last child to turn up in a wooded area. a day or two later an official would tell reporters fibers and dog hairs were being collected from the victim's clothing. the mechanics child to die would be found in a river wearing nothing but underpants. fewer clues now for larry peterson. >> we're talking maybe a dozen or dozens of fibers as opposed to hundreds or potentially 1,000 fibers. >> reporter: the 13-year-old victim was found beneath this bridge over the south river in atlanta suburbs. a driver crossing that bridge earlier in the week saw a man leaning over the railing. it turned out to be the same afternoon jojo bell disappeared. at trial the witness said the
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man was wayne williams. jojo's body would not be found for seven more weeks until easter sunday. it had floated far down the south river almost into another county. >> they also had nothing on but underwear, basically. >> medical examiner joseph burton went out in a boat to retrieve the boy. >> we've got the body wrapped in a sheet. >> dr. burton ruled both joe joe and the other boy found in the river had been as fixated. >> we didn't have any history of either one of he's boys swimming in the south river in their underwear. >> other bodies were now washing up in the river to the west and the north of atlanta. five victims in that river in the next six weeks. >> i said, you know, if i was doing that, i would be throwing them off the bridge. >> fbi agent mike -- grew up along river in tennessee. he knew if something were to float on downstream, it had to
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be dropped in the middle of a river. they suggested the bridge stake-outs. >> we looked at remote places, dark places. we believed it would be at nighttime as opposed to daytime. >> the fbi and police began night watches at 14 bridges over the chattahoochee and south rivers. the stake-outs were to last four weeks. nothing until the very end. >> we at that point were ready for that to be our last night, and wayne williams showed up that night. >> reporter: just before 3:00 a.m. the station wagon drove on to the bridge. >> he waited a couple more hours. we might not have been there. >> otherwise, we would have missed him. >> next, the night on the
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bridge. >> you said i know this is about those boys, isn't it? >> correct. that's what i said. >> pretty damning statement, don't you think? dry mouth definitely affected my self confidence. it's debilitating when you try to talk, when you're trying to eat, when you're trying to sleep. i'm constantly licking my lips. water would address the symptoms for just a few minutes. the hygienist recommended biotene. it's clean and refreshing, i feel like i have plenty of fluid in my mouth. i brush with the biotene toothpaste and i use the mouthwash every morning. it's changed my life. it is the last thing i do before i walk out the door. biotene gives me that fresh confident feeling.
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>> that might night on the bridge wayne williams says police made him the scapegoat because he was black. >> when this case happened, if those police had arrested a white man, atlanta would have erupted as well as several major cities. you possibly would have had another race war. >> reporter: no, said the fbi chief. >> atlanta police department's eye, they were looking for a white guy, so why would all of a sudden a black guy be considered a scapegoat? >> williams disputes almost everything police witnesses said
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about that night. >> what happened that night on the bridge? >> okay. in the first place, i'm not being fascicious, but nothing happened on the bridge. >> there was no splash. >> he never stopped and didn't turn around. >> so you never stopped on the bridge snsh. >> no, i did not. >> you didn't throw a body? >> definitely not a body, month. >> his story. >> i crossed the bridge. i turned out briefly after i crossed the bridge at what i call a liquor store. >> williams said he pulled into the parking lot only to look up the phone number of a singer he was trying to locate that the hour. >> i turned back on the highway. i went to a store. i used the telephone. i came back. >> the call didn't go through. >> i got the recording this number is not in service, and i thought this is strange. >> this is the closest thing to an address he had for the singer
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he said was sheryl johnson. >> the fbi looked hard and never found her. >> we looked hard, and we thought he made it up. >> only then did he turn around to cross back over the bridge again. police would stop him moments later. >> you said, i know this is about those boys, isn't it? >> that's what i said. >> pretty damning statement, don't you think? >> no. i mean, the perception in atlanta was at the time kids were missing, and i think if i'm not mistaken, perception was a lot of young males were miss, and that's what i said this is about those kids, the boys or something like that, isn't it? >> remember what fbi agent mike mccomis said he saw when he got to the scene? >> saw a black male. he had on a baseball hat. >> this is the