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the whole thing saddens me greatly. >> now he's meeting with workers, trying to negotiate his way out of the factory. >> this is not how to accomplish something. i'm at the point now, we're at a stand still. i deserve the right to go back to my hotel room and i deserve the right to come back and we can address things professionally. >> the workers say they're owed two months back pay and stoeld us he's not a hostage, that he can't leave. cnn, beijing. >> thanks for joining me today. cnn "newsroom" continues right now. into good morning, everyone. we have a very busy news day ahead. all the day's main views and always always, our take on daytime justice, as well. day two, it is drama in george zimmerman's murder trial.
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911 calls are played out in court that could put a new spin. who wasn't there to hear them? paula deen's sons turning the tables and insisting racism allegations against her are simply character assassinations that started out as extortion. it is an interview and a side of the story that you have not heard. coming ought this hour, as well. and some extremely graphic video, a 3-year-old, 3, watching in horror as a man breaks in and brutally beats her mom, throws her down the stairs. all of it caught on camera. can these images help police to track that man down? i want to bring you first, though, to sanford, florida, where george zimmerman's past may come back to haunt him. day two of his second degree murder trial. live pictures inside the courtroom right now in sandford. this trial, of course, because of the killing of trayvon plaidin. was it murder, wassist justified killing? it's a judge that makes that
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call at the beginning, but it is the jury that is going to have to assess it. and the jury may or may want be hearing some phone calls that george zimmerman made to 911 before that shooting in unrelated issues, completely unrelated to trayvon martin. the prosecution has played several non-emergency phone calls for the judge, but the jury was nowhere to be found. they were kicked out of the courtroom. george howell is live in sanford, florida. explain why the jury was not allowed to hear those calls and if they will ever hear them and why it matters. >> ashley, good morning. so yeah, the jury was not there. here is the reason why. it's the debate right now as to whether they will be able to hear these 911 audiotapes. as you mentioned, these are the audiotapes, the 91 1 recordings when george zimmerman called in to report suspicious behavior, suspicious people before the alleged crime on february 26th, 2012. here is the deal.
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the prosecutors want those tapes into this trial. they want the jury to hear them. the defense is concerned about jurors hearing these tapes. they believe that the prosecutors will basically try to show a pattern and then show frustration building resulting in the death of 17-year-old trayvon martin when george zimmerman and he met on that date. i want you to hear one of these tapes for yourself. listen. >> i was just calling because we've had a lot of break-ins in our neighborhood recently and i'm on the neighborhood watch and there's a -- two suspicious characters in the gate of my neighborhood. i've never seen them before. i have no idea what they're doing. they're just hanging out, loitering. >> mr. zimmerman, can you describe the two individuals? >> two african-american males. >> and that's the thing. so anytime he's asked for a description, he either replies black or african-american, uses the words interchangeably.
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the defense toushs say that these tapes basically show the work of a good samaritan, doing the job of his neighborhood to call in suspicious activity. but they say by admitting these tapes into the trial, defense attorneys believe it would only confuse the jurors, ashley. >> george, i know you're watching this case. we'll check in with you periodically as it warrants. george howell, live for us in sand ford, florida. remember, please, you can watch the zimmerman trial live as it happens on our sister network, hln. they're running that gavel to gavel for you. breaksing news out on the skrourt. they handed down a critical ruling that limits part of the voting rights act of 1965. it is a part of the provision of it that gives the federal government overtooit sight, oversight over 15 different states with histories of voter discrimination. i want to get right to jeffrey tubin at the supreme court right now. is it fair to say that the supreme court yet another day has almost punted a major
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decision? and this time punting it to congress to redraw that provision in the voter -- the voting rights act to assess what today is like as opposed to what things were like in '65? is that an accurate assessment? >> well, ashley, i wouldn't really put it that way. i think this is a bigger deal decision than that. because this is a very important part of american history since 1965. the justice department has essentially supervised nine southern states plus a few other counties because of the voting rights act. what the supreme court said today by a vote of 5-4 is that the formula that the supreme court used to designate those states that are covered by this part of the voting rights law is obsolete. it was based originally on 1965 rules, statistics. it was reauthorized in 2006. but even then, the court said the numbers were obsolete.
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so congress has to write a new formula if they still want these states to be under supervision. given congress today with republicans in control of the house of representatives, i think it's very unlikely that congress will actually do this. so this is really actually a very major decision. voting rights supervised out of washington looks like it's over. for a significant chunk of the country. and that is a major change. and we'll see what the implications are for how people actually vote. >> so this t significance of this is not lost on many. already, critics are jumping in, those who support this are jumping in. there was somewhat unique or somewhat rare, anyway. but i'm going to defer to you, the expert. can you characterize for me why reading the dissent from the bench matters? >> as most people know, justices dissent from rulings all the
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time. only about 30% or 40% of the rulings of any given year at the supreme court are unanimous. but usually they just have their dissent printed and it's distributed immediately after the decision. reading the dissent from the bench is a symbol of the justice saying, i care deeply about this. this is a very important case. justice ruth gader ginsburg dissented from the bench yesterday in two cases, as well, involving job discrimination. i think what we're seeing at the end of this term is conservatives win some very significant cases. just to keep people up to date, we don't know about the results in the same-sex marriage cases. those will be announced tomorrow morning at 10:00. there's no more mystery about when. tomorrow morning at 10:00 is the end of the supreme court term. those are the only cases left. so we will know about the defensive marriage case and the proposition 8 case out of california tomorrow morning at 10:00 and we'll be here. >> yes, i know you will be.
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i was thinks the justices were putting in a lot of overtime this week unless i realized i think the overtime was put in before this week. >> that's right. their hard work is the month before. >> jeffrey, thank you very much. i'm glad it's a nice day for you out in front of the supreme court. we'll see you there tomorrow. i want to turn to another big story, this growing mystery over the exact whereabouts of edwa edward snowden. mystery no more. he's in russia. he's still in the transit lounge. he left from hong kong and was on his way to moscow. and we wondered if he was in the transit lounge. guess who says he is? none other than the russian president vladimir putin. not a very comfortable place to spend the night, but alas,
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according to the president web has not picked his final destination yet. and the president is going so far as to say, the sooner he does it, the better. clearly, that's not something the russians are loving. it's caused a real problem diplomatically. i think it's fair to say this has been a diplomatic debacle. did you except to hear this from the president himself today, jill? >> it's really fascinating. there has been a lot of criticism about president putin, about russia, what are they going to do, were they going to keep him there? and essentially what it sounds like vladimir putin is saying is we want to get this guy out of our hair, too, just as apparently the chinese did. let's again look at what is coming from interfax news agency, these quotes from president putin saying he's at the airport, his arrival was a complete surprise to russia.
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the sooner he chooses his final destination, the better for him and the better for russia. the special services of russia, he says, like their fsb, like our fbi are not talking with him -- or are not working with him, i should say. and really importantly, mr. putin says i hope this will not have any effect on u.s.-russian relations. so those are actually all very positive comments. again, russia could have chosen to do a lot of things. right now, they're basically saying, he's not even technically in russia, although physically, of course, he is and he ought to make up his mind. and, of course, everyone thought that he was going to be going on to cuba and then on to ecuador. so we'll see what will happen, ashley. and also let's listen to that sound that just came out this morning from senator john mccain about vladimir putin. >> look, we've got to start dealing with vladimir putin in a realistic fashion for what he
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is. he's an old kgb colonel that dreeps of the days of the russian empire and he continues to stick his thumb in our eye in the broad variety of ways. >> well, it may be, ashley, that he is not sticking his thumb in the eye of the united states. certainly want to hear more directly from president putin, but it does sound like he's pretty good news for the united states in terms of just trying to move him along. >> so this all happened pretty quickly. i'm not going to suggest you're a fly on the wall for some of these conversations. but we had reporting just before i went to air that former senator john kerry, now secretary of state blasting russia, blasting china, both of those countries blasting us right back saying our facts are groundless and all of a sudden it's kumbaya? this doesn't sound so simple. >> i would say blasting china, but not really blasting russia because they were in the midst of talking to the russians.
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there was a lot of, you know, burning up the phone lines. senior officials here, the head of the fbi talking to the head of the fsb twice yesterday. and so they weren't really blasting. they were saying hope you do the right thing. that was the message. now, what russia specifically will do will be very interesting. they may say hand off, you know, if he has documents, let him go on. and then he's out of their hair, as well. we'll have to see. >> yeah. i'm sure it can't be too comfortable for mr. snowden. i don't think there are many bathrooms or showers or beds in the transit lounge. keep an eye on it for us. let us know if you find any other movements. thank you for that. great reporting. paula deen's two sons are speaking out about the controversy swirling around their mother. >> i can tell you this. that word, that horrifying
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terrible word that exists and i abhore it coming from any person is not in my vocabulary. it's definitely not in my brother's vocabulary. it's not in my mother's vocabulary. >> it's an exclusive interview you will right here here only on cnn and it's just ahead. [ female announcer ] there's one thing dave's always wanted to do when he retires -- keep working, but for himself. so as his financial advisor, i took a look at everything he has. the 401(k). insurance policies. even money he's invested elsewhere. we're building a retirement plan to help him launch a second career. dave's flight school. go dave. when people talk, great things can happen. so start a conversation with an advisor who's fully invested in you. wells fargo advisors.
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paula deen has been getting hammered in the court of public opinion. but it's not surprising, given the fact that she admitted herself to using the "n" word. and then also to planning a so-called plantation wedding with only black men serving as the waiters. well, now deen has lost another major indoersment, smithfield. now deen's sons, jamie and bobby are speaking exclusively with credit coumo to respond to the cries of racism and almost a public flogging of their mother. have a listen. >> one of the reasons this has become so difficult for your mom is these are her own words.
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this story about the wedding and how people should be dressed there, that it's slave reminiscent, these are her words. doesn't it make it more difficult to apologize and back away from? >> well, let me say this. these depositions were all given separately. mine was separate from my mother's and separate from my brother's. we were not sitting in on each other's depositions. i did not hear my mother give this deposition and i don't know exactly what she may have meant. >> these are her words and not for bobby and i, but i can tell you we do not have lies in us. the number one thing that we cannot stand is someone that is deceitful. that's why when people ask us the truth, we tell the truth. you know, regardless of the outcome. truth is big in our family and -- >> i can tell you this. that word, that horrifying, terrible word that exists and i abhor it coming from any person is not in my vocabulary. it's definitely not in my brother's vocabulary. it's not in my mother's vocabulary.
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we were not raised in a home that that was used. that's not who we are. that's not the home that we were raised in. >> any changes that others come forward and say, well, i've heard her say the same things. it was like that in the restaurant where we were. it was like that on the show, those types of allegations? >> i can't imagine that happening. >> i mean, but on the other hand, what do you think, chris? do you think people are going to take this opportunity to come out and try to get their piece now? i mean, for every -- you know, we have so much local support here, so many friends that have come forward and spoken out for our family. it's just much like as many people would compliment you times ten would complain about we've been in the service business for 25 years and so many people enjoy it, but there's always one person that is going to be most vocal about their disappointment for one reason or another. what are the chances of somebody
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else coming out behind this? i would say pretty good. >> let me ask you this, fellas. take an opportunity to respond to it. your mother has admitted these things. it's not like she's been chased after for whether it's true or not. the question is now, what will paula deen do about it going forward? you're coming on to speak your truth about your mother. what is your mother intend to do herself to make amends and try to move forward? >> i think she's going to continue to be truthful. i mean, again, this was -- she was in a deposition under oath. our mother is going to do nothing but answer the truth. look, we can look in the mirror and know who we are and how we were raised and the character of our parents. my mother, our mother is not the picture that's being painted. it's not -- look, life is not fair. it's inaccurate. >> and chris cuomo joins me now. it's a great interview and it's
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obviously an extraordinary tender topic for them to undertake. there's something unusual and odd about the discussion between mother and sons. i think they addressed it in your interview and i wanted to get your take on it. that is how paula deen discussed using the "n" word in a not unkind way, a nice way. i'm still unclear as to how that shook out. >> paula deen said in the deposition that in raising the boys, you don't use the "n" word in a mean way, but sometimes it can be okay if you use it in a joke or the way you hear other black people using it with each other. now, the boys, this complicates the situation, they say they have no idea what she's talking about and they weren't raised that way, that's not the way they were, that wasn't their household. context one cover legal things all the time. context becomes everything. looking at the deposition, you'd have to understand where she was coming from when she said it. but dealing with such toxic material here, that it makes it very difficult to escape from just complete condemnation.
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the challenge is for the boys and for the mother, how do you move past this when it's something that society recognizes is so wrong. >> you've got a woman who is 56 and admittedly grew up in an age of segregation and desegregation and lived that world, has plenty of anecdotes about things she went through in her life, and as the boys said in an interview chose to be honest in a deposition. this wasn't paula deen being caught on tape. but it is huge, what's happened. this is the crumbling of an empire based on this. did her sons address the grandness of the reaction and whether they felt it was surprising or appropriate or inappropriate? >> well, they see it as an extension of this lawsuit. that, you know, this is what's happened, this has paid off very well for whoever the plaintiff is in this suit. they are now trying to deal with
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the very verb ragzs of it through society. but it's difficult because this is very toxic material. but they do feel that this is -- i think the word he used was extortion. this was using thinks insendary things to help with these lawsuits, based on something else and someone else other than paula deen. >> and what about the notion that you and i work in an industry that is lightning fast. and with the internet, these stories can erupt in massive way, they can erupt in a philosophical ways, as well. certain people will cover certain as spejts of this story and leave out other aspects of this story. do they feel as though the entire story has been given coverage? and i'm referring to the genesis of this which they say was extortion. >> using the time tested disclaimer, i don't want to speak for them. but it certainly seems that they feel this is a very jilted view of they are mother. and i do think it's fair to say that negativity is often a proxy for insight of these stories.
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so because the "n" word is involved and because there's ugly imagery of the slave period, the analysis is over. forget about who is person is in their totality, that it was under oath as opposed to being caught, as you point out. and then the piece i think is most important, this is a moment to reinforce that we think it's wrong and to now find the behaviors that we think are right because saying okay, i said it and i shouldn't have and i know it's wrong isn't enough. you have to do something to demonstrate that we're better than this now. >> so we work in -- you know, my generation and my kids' generation, they all work at warp speed. at 66, i don't know that that generation can grasp this so fast and the moving paradigm and how things have shifted and how to use the right language and how not to use the wrong language. it's tough. >> why else do the story? the reason is you want to reinforce the behaviors that right, that are better than this, we're about our diversity, and that we understand the
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shared experience and the individual experience. if we're not making those points, then the rest of this is sensationalism. >> great grew and really insightful to see their demeanor during the interview. it's been a tough time for that whole family and everybody involved in this. >> i understand why they came forward. >> happy to have you here. >> and have i said on the air, nice job on the new show? >> you have, many times. >> thank you. >> you guys are fun. chris cuomo a's new show, 6:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. that it kate baldwin in the middle. they make a great team. one other thing in that paula deen story, listen to what bobby dean said this morning. take a listen. >> i'm disgusted by the entire thing because it -- it began as extortion and it has become character assassination. >> okay. that is big, extortion is a very strong allegation. but the local reports out of
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savannah quote paula deen's attorney would says that his client was asked for $12 million before the lawsuit was filed. $12 million not to file the lawsuit. it was deen's deposition in the case that put us where we are at this point and there are actually a lot of legal questions to discuss that not that many people are talking about in the gander and wilder notion of paula deen crumbling. we're going to do that, have that full leg conversation talking about what exactly happened that started all of this coming up in the meantime. caught on camera, a shocking home invasion. this video is very difficult to watch. a mother enduring a brutal attack while her 3-year-old child has to watch helplessly from the couch. the suspect is till out there and police need your help. more coming up in just a moment. [ female announcer ] the best thing about this bar
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in front of this child. again, this is in new jersey and i do want to warn you, this video is tough to take. but maybe someone can help to catch this person who is on the loose. i want to give you this report now from john klecamp of our affiliate news 12 in new jersey. >> an alarm company was installing a security system at the victim's home in cypress street this afternoon, a totally understandable reaction after this. around 10:30 friday morning, the young mother of two was attacked by an intruder who did not care that she was unarmed and putting up no resistance or that her little girl was in the room watching her mother struggling with a stranger who kicked his way inside. during the assault, she made a kishgs decision to take whatever the intruder dished out. >> i knew if i started screaming, my daughter would, too, and i was afraid that she would get her. i took it and can cried the entire time. >> the nanny cam on the mantle captured the whole thing. brutal punches and vicious kicks
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that sent her flying. at one point, he places her in a choke hold and slammed her to the floor. he drags her away. he can hear the dread in her voice, oh, no, before he shoves her down the stairs. it is video on that sicklens everyone who see it it. >> i was in a room with about seven officers and we were all just speechless. it was like an out of body experience. >> and yet as hard as it is to watch, the couple say they want people to see it. >> they need to help us get him off the streets. he's -- he's not just a burglar. you know, he's violent. >> just unbelievable. and one of the hardest parts about that tape is that even though it was blurry, there was a little girl on that sofa. she was sitting on the sofa virtually petrified and she seemed to be hiding behind a small pillow. i want to show you the man we're
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looking for at this point and i think all of us can safely say we are looking for him, about six feet tall, 210 pounds, salt and pepper beard is the description that's come in. and there's the description off to the left, pillow over her face as she watches that unnerving scene play out in front of her. i want to bring in faith jenkins, a former federal prosecutor. we often hear about these assault cases, we often hear about home invasions, that there are assaults and then they are assaults like that. >> right. >> tell me the difference between that and a simple assault. >> well, here, the level of assault that they're going to charge in terms of being a felony is going to be on how sustainable her injuries are, how significant her injuries are. so they're going to look at that. but it's definitely a felony assault. it's going to be a burglary. he broke in the house. even if he didn't take anything, the fact that he broke in with the intent to commit a crime, they're going to take that video .show and say obviously he
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had the intention to commit a crime. but the level of violence here, that is what is so disturbing. it's one thing when we have these cases, we have people who break into homes, they take things, but usually in most cases, they don't try to hurt the victim significantly because they just want the stuff. >> she wasn't putting up any resistance. it just seemed like it was a beatdown. and by the way, isn't that an aggravated assault what we just witne witnessed? >> absolutely. >> what about the significance of the audience? injuries aside, if she's got bruises and perhaps a mild concussion, which earlier was reportsed here, how about the fact that there was a 3-year-old in the room who is never, ever going to be is same? >> that's an additional charge of endangering the welfare of a child. that's wa you're looking at because he did this in the presence of her child. but the level of violence here, that is significant. i guarantee you 24 is someone who is not new to the criminal justice system. this is someone with some kind of history, some kind of violent history because you just don't
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go into someone's house and do something like that to someone else without having some kind of history. >> or that they might be known to one another and there's a lot of history between the victim and the -- i want to put that picture up one more time. look, we don't have a lot to go on. this is a nanny cam, but we've done the best we can to isolate a picture to show at least a front view of this man. if you think you may know who he is, have an idea who he is, if you recognize him, we do urge you to contact the milburn, new jersey, police department. and if that's too tough, contact your police department and ask them to give you a hand in this one. but milburn, new jersey. and that man, need i remean you, is still out there somewhere. some breaking news that we want to bring to you. and it's about the man that we've all been looking for for days and days on end, edward snowden. a bit of a mystery, but now
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quantity to check some of our top stories making headlines this hour. wall street, that's a big plus sign making a comeback after some pretty stinker days in the past. right now, we're up about 102 points following upbeat economic reports particularly coming out of china. the supreme court handed down a real big ruling today limiting part of the votesing rights act of 1965. provision in question was a provision that gave federal authorities some very serious overthyme sight in 15 states that have a history of voter discrimination. the government had to give the okay for any voting law changes, like precincts be moved and polling stations in those areas. but today the supreme court said that's unconstitutional and now they're saying it's up to congress to rejig parts of the law to reflect wa we are today as opposed to what we were then, feeling that the oversight is still somewhat necessary, but definitely needs to be different. the nsa leaker edward snowden, turns out he's still in
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moscow. that is the direct word from the top from the approximated of russia. vladimir putin. he said edward snowden's arrival was completely unspec'd. putin says snowden is a transit passenger and the sooner he leaves russia, quote, the better for us and for himself. the secretary of state john kerry has chastised russia for not handing over snowden, but like the russian president says, technically he's not here, he's in transit. there's no shortage of political significance to the russian president saying these things, saying not only that, but that he is a free man. mr. snowden is a free man and the sooner he selects his destination point, the better, meaning get out of my hair. you're causing huge problems for us. >> it's stil still potentially a major problem because as you know, last saturday, the u.s. formerly revoked snowden's u.s. pat passport. so he's not traveling legally right now unless he gets
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documents from russia or another country that would give him some sort of status. the russians know he does not have a formal u.s. passport. they also know he's been given these criminal complaints, including espionage and he's wanted here in the united states. it's still potentially a big political problem if the russians, even though he's in this transit zone, let him board a flight whether for cuba or ecuador or iceland or if he wants to go back to hong kong. although i suspect the chinese authorities there in hong kong have no great desire to have him come back there because it's only a headache for hong kong. we'll see where he winds up. i suspect he'll wind up maybe in ek with door, or maybe iceland. >> wolf, a wolf traveler, as am i. i have had to secure many a difficult visa to go to certain countries, even to transit through certain countries. yet the russian president said
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he arrived in raush ya as a complete surprise. is that hard to buy, that story? >> maybe a complete surprise to the russian president, but when he boarded that flight from hong kong to moscow, he had a u.s. passport. i assume he flew on that u.s. passport, even though technically it had been -- it made invadly the day before he left on sunday and on saturday the u.s. said it revoked that passport. the chinese said they haven't received all the technical information about that. that's why they let him fly. but you're right, to go to moscow, i think you need a see va. whether or not he had a visa, i don't think. but these are legitimate questions the state department is going to be reviewing. it could have a big impact on u.s.-russian relations or whenever he winds up. but i suspect, for example, ecuador or iceland will take him. wikileaks mowers will be able to get maybe even a private plane to fly him there.
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>> i once had been turned roy because it's serious, if you don't have the right documents, you're not getting on board their planes. they're the ones that have to suffer the consequences. >> at least we know where he is right now for sure. >> finally. wolf blitzer, thank you for that. i want to go also to this story out of sanford, florida, the george zimmerman courtroom. day two of testimony in that highly publicized second degree murder trial. and it is his past that is becoming his present today. you're going to hear what mr. zimmerman said in a prior 9111 call that had nothing to do with this case. and we're going to ask our panel how it could affect this case if the judge ever allows the jury to hear it. that's next.
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zimmerman as he sits at the defense table as he listens to attorneys discuss what they know and witnesses discuss what they know. this morning, the prosecution played in 9111 calls just for the judge, fought for the jury. these are 911 calls that have nothing to do with trayvon martin been but the prosecution says they set up context about what kind of person george zimmerman was before all of this. and the jury may hear the call if the judge decides they can hear them. have a listen. >> i'm with the neighborhood watch and we've had some burglaries and vandalisms lately. and a gentleman was walking in the neighborhood. i've seen him before entourage days going around picking up trash. i don't know what his deal is. >> is he white, black or his panic? >> black. >> joining me now is attorney faith jenkins, a former criminal prosecutors with the manhattan district attorneys office and
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danny novella. the meaning and significance of these calls, some attorneys would say these have nothing to do with the case. other attorneys would say these have everything to do with the case. why sfp. >> the defense is arguing these calls have nothing to do with the incident the night trayvon martin was shot and killed. the prosecutor is saying, hold on a second, george zimmerman has a pattern and practice of profiling young black males. this goes to show his intent the night trayvon martin was killed. he had done it before. just six months prior to this incident, he made a call about another suspicious young black male. it goes to the case in that he was profiling young black men and in this case 1 that did absolutely nothing wrong and committed no crime. >> so if the jury does get to hear these tapes, do they get to hear them in their entirety, some preamble, or is it here is evidence, here is what the guy did before? how do they put this in context?
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>> that is exactly the problem the judge has to grapple with. the judge has to first find that they're relevant, in other words, they tend to make a material fact more probable or less probable, but relevancy isn't the end. then the judge has too ply 403 and ask even if it's relevant, if the privilege so great because it would be unfairly prejudicial? and in weighing that out, the judge will likely, if she does allow it, would allow the whole tape, i would expect. but i don't know that it gets to that point. because applying the tests, these prior acts don't rise to the level of evidence which would be admissible and probably should be excluded turned rules of evidence. >> so you've got a defendant here who is his panic, who has made a lot of calls before because his job was to be watching out for people that he thought might be watching problems and therefore calling 911 when he saw people he thought would be causing problems. but he has said in the past,
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some are black, some are his panic, as well. i can't tell you if he said some are white because i can't hear all the types. but you have a hispanic guy that has called out hispanic people as well as blacks. >> yes. they're looking at the other comment. he didn't just say these are a black male. he said these a-holes always get away. he called them as expletive and a punk. he had an attitude before him before he ever met him. that's what they're trying to bring in. >> so these are the tapes beforehand. these have nothing to do with the tapes the night of that has nothing to do with trayvon. >> exactly. >> i know he's talked about the description of the man, hispanic male, a description of the man, a black male. >> let me point this out. black people and hispanic people can profile other black and hispanic people. it happens all the time. they're saying this is a pattern
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of practice and it goes to his intent. >> thank you for that. i want to remind our viewers that you can watch the zimmerman trial live. we are playing it out gavel to gavel on our sister network, hln. there's a lot of fascinating stuff that happens in between this when you're covering the case. the boss in china is an american. the factory workers are holding his hostage. it's pretty weird. he's not lo allowed to leave. he's allowed to make phone calls, he just can't leave. how legal is this? if you ever try to travel overseas, could this happen to you? and what are your rights when you leave american boarders.
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many. >> the answer is yes. stairing at me at 1:00 in the morning. banging on the doors, windows and lights and stuff. a lot of sleep depravation. >> reporter: his family said they are in constant contact worried sick. he has a medical condition. he wants to leave. th won't let him. >> if you were to try to leave now they wouldn't let you. >> it's been interesting to try. it's crossed my mind. >> reporter: in a bizarre twist we are led in to view the factory. you and i talking here and you still being held hostage it's kind of surreal. the whole thing saddens me greatly now he's meeting with
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workers trying to negotiate his way out of factory. >> this is not out to accomplish something. we're at a standstill. i deserve the right to go back to my hotel room. i deserve to go back and address things professionally. >> reporter: the workers say they are owed two months back pay and said he isn't a hostage but he can't leave. >> in most places that would be called kidnapping. i don't get it. if you restrict someone's movement, it's kidnapping. is it different in china. what are our rights when we find ourselves in a foreign country when it's not so much like our country? >> reporter: you're right. that's the definition of kidnapping in the u.s. when it comes to china i'm not sure how they define it.
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this seems like a blend of labor negotiations and hostage. when it comes to china u.s. citizens have to obey chinese action. neither the township or the local government are not involved. the police are there to keep order. >> this sounds like a perfect example where local police should be involved. can't you call the embassy and can't they come to your assistance in some way? >> reporter: the consulate cannot intervene. you can receive a visit from your agent. you cannot discuss under regulations your actual case, only with an attorney that you end up getting separately. you're entitled to a visit and
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