morgan live starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> tonight a potentially huge turning point in the george zimmerman murder trial. witness after witness takes the jury back to the night trayvon martin was killed and who some are calling a major blow to the prosecution, a neighbor told the prosecution about two men struggling to the ground. >> going back to when they were vertical, i could tell the person on the bottom had a light erskined color. >> defense attorney mark o'mara then kneeled down to demonstrate the tussle between zimmerman and martin. >> the person on the top was back against where? >> it was the same person that was on top whether they were t shaped to the sidewalk. >> so they did not -- >> colors. >> i'm sorry sorks th, they did change positions, did that? >> a lot to get to tonight

involving star witness rachel jeantel, the high school classmate joins me in a moment for an exclusive interview. this is "piers morgan live." martin, dramatic day today and if to date we felt that perhaps the state was beginning to win the argument, today very much a better day you would say for the defense? >> reporter: absolutely and ironically, piers, the witnesses were supposed to be on the stand for the state, but it appears the testimony they gave benefits the defense. the question has been who was on top? what i mean by that is that the defense has maintained it was george zimmerman on the ground being beaten by 17-year-old trayvon martin, but up until now, the witnesses we had have really only said what they heard. today jonathan good took the stand, and he says he actually saw the struggle that took place between those two men, and he says from his vantage point, he could tell who was on top and who was on the bottom.

he was talking about their race. listen to the testimony. >> in terms of describing the individuals, are you able to describe their faces or anything or just clothing descriptions? >> well going back to when they were vertical, i could tell the person on the bottom had a light erskined color, correct. >> what you saw was the person on top in an mma style strike that l position, correct? >> correct. >> that was further described, was it not, as being ground and pound? >> correct. >> all right. explain what ground and pound is in your mind. >> the person on top being able to punch the person on the bottom but the person on the bottom also has a chance to get out of punch the person on top. it's back and forth. >> that witness, essentially is saying not only is it george simm zimmerman on the bottom but described an mma mixed marshall

arts style that was being used. >> martin, here is where i get a bit confused about this because we were told earlier in the week that it wasn't trayvon martin that had been training in mma, it was george zimmerman, and we've seen other witnesses who claim they thought that zimmerman was on top. is it not more consistent if the person on top is performing this ground and pound maneuver, that it's more likely to have been the guy that's been training in that very form of marshall arts? >> that is certainly the way the prosecution wanted to end the day and they were able to do that by talking to a physician's assistant, george zimmerman ease physician's assistant that listed he had been keeping fit by doing training. the training he was dog was mma, mixed marshall arounds, ts, so planted the doubt in the juries'

mind who had that training. >> who made the best case today, the prosecution or defense? i have my guests here, welcome to both of you. jane, it's a dramatic day because jonathan good was a pretty good witness, and as his name indicated, but having said that, there were inconsistencies, weren't there, in what he was saying. walk me through it. >> there are inconsistencies in everybody's testimony. everybody that claims to be an eyewitness or ear witness because it was a dark, raining night and mirky and people saw little fragments, and they really didn't see very much, and what they saw was in the dark and they can't be 100% certain. that's what this guy said. i can't say with 100% certainty, but i do think this was a great day for george zimmerman's defense team. you know, when this case started with opening statements at the

beginning of the week, it seemed like a slum dunk for the prosecution. they had a great opening statement, filled with a baker's dozen of lies george zimmerman told. the defense with the terrible knock knock joke. it seemed they turned the tables today, anyway, with this witness, but i have to stress there were other residents that said the exact opposite -- >> right. >> that said that the people -- that the person on top fit the description of george zimmerman. so the basic point is if everybody is contradicting each other and themselves and in various testimony in depositions is that enough for reasonable doubt? >> right, glorp yia, fascinatin. jonathan good was a good witness. i watched it live, consistent and compelling and compare what he said in the first statements and today and find a few interesting things. for example, he originally said he heard the person on the

bottom who he indicates was zimmerman screaming for help and today he said he can't say for certainty. he said in the first statement he saw the person on top who he indicates is trayvon martin holding the person down and throwing strikes, punching, striking him. now he says he can't say with certainty that he was doing that. at the mma hold, in my view complexity, we're told zimmerman is the guy training for mma but apparently it's trayvon martin doing that maneuver on george zimmerman. put it together, what are you thinking? >> i think he was a strong witness and a good witness for the defense, even though he was put on as a prosecution witness. here he testified he sees trayvon martin on top or basically, a person dressed the same way trayvon martin was and testifies to the mma. he testifies that he saw ground and pound. he testifies that he saw the injuries, that he heard essentially the cries for help. no one came, and that there did

not seem to be any will -- ill will or spite evidenced by george zimmerman, which is really important that the prosecution has to prove that to prove the killing was done with the depraved mind to have second degree murder e. overall, no, he's not 100% a good witness for the defense, but he comes very close. >> jane, i mean, we get down to injuries, some of the medical experts that gave evidence today didn't think they were too severe. he never actually had an x-ray to prove he had a broken nose, the assumption is he may have done but the picture certainly looks rough there but the medical experts played that down a bit, which i thought was quite significant because the defense was trying to say look, he was clearly pounded into the concrete. they said well, he may have been, but they have seen a lot worse injuries than this. >> sure, but it seems like we spent a lot of awful time in the prosecution's case talking about

george zimmerman's injury. where was the focus on trayvon martin, the victim? the defense cleverly brought it back every single witness whether emt or physician's assistant or the resident that came out and snapped the cell phone photos always bringing it back to george zimmerman's injuries. ultimately, i think the prosecution has to come up with a good explanation of why george zimmerman has those injuries and explain it in a way in the jury's mind. >> gloria, they have got to prove that. i mean, the advantage the defense has in this is florida's law plays really to the zimmerman camp, unless there is compelling evidence that he was not fearing for his life, and i haven't seen it yet, you just can't say for sure either way, it's hard to see now where this conviction comes. >> well, right, and i mean, some people think that george zimmerman has to take the stand and testify that he was in fear of imminent danger to himself in

order to be successful with his case. but i think that's a judgment call the defense has to make. i don't think they want to put him on the stand because he does have inconsistent statements, and i'm not completely convince that he has to take the stand in order to prevail in this matter. you know, the question is why did the prosecution put this witness on when he was so helpful to the defense, mr. good? i think for two reasons. one, they really need to put all because otherwise it's like hide the ball or it attracts attention to the fact they are leaving somebody out that helps the defense. they are not there in the interest of justice, they are there to prevail and a da, state's attorney is supposed to be there in the interest of justice and then the other reason is, of course, he did -- he didn't see the slamming of the head on the concrete. >> right. >> that zimmerman or the defense team alleges took place, so that helps the prosecution. >> gloria, you stay with me.

jenna, i know you got to leave. before you leave me, one word, is he going to be found guilty or not george zimmerman? >> i don't think you can tell at this point. i well say this, there were points that the prosecution made today that seem to be overlooked by everybody, for example, in his reenactment tape george zimmerman said after he shot trayvon martin he didn't know what happened and spread his arms out. the first people on the scene and officers found george zimmerman, trayvon martin like this a complete contradiction. i wish somebody had brought that to light and shined a spotlight on that contradiction because it came and went. >> i'm sure they will get around to that, jane, thank you very much, indeed. i know you have to go. gloria stay with me. day five ends with a lot for the jury to think about over the weekend. joining me now is mel robins. mel, you were there again. another compelling day. my sense is watching it all that

the it was moving towards the defense case today. 100% as you just heard everybody else talk about. jon good was a fantastic witness for the defense, even if you take into account we had witnesses over the course of the week that thought george zimmerman was on top and one was discredited quite skillfully by getting her to admit she was making that assessment seeing trayvon martin when he was a young kid. we know this was a tussle, they were rolling around and while jon good's testimony was different, it was pulled back and restrained today than it was when he first gave the testimony. he was very clear. i was in the courtroom with him this morning as he was testifying. the jurors leaning forward taking in every word, yes, can't say 100% but my gut who do i

tell you who was yelling? it was george zimmerman. it was george zimmerman on the bottom. that was unbelievable. the other thing is witness number 21 who was the officer zimmerman. he said something that also was unbelievable gift to the defense. he said that when he asked and when he was talking to george zimmerman after arresting him, that george had a very confused look on his face as he was describing the fact that he was calling for help and nobody came, which also corroborated george zimmerman's story but jon good's story that he came out, saw george zimmerman calling for help. they yelled, he didn't respond, went back in and all of a sudden we have this terrible tragedy and finally, i heard y'all say that the prosecution ended on a strong note, that may be true, but the defense was able to establish that there were wounds all around his head. why? well that supports the rolling

around theory on the ground in the scuffle. he also held up that photo of george zimmerman with the nose that's like 20 times bigger than it should be a dozen times for the jury to see and finally, what's the last thing that that physician's assistant said? she said -- she basically agreed with o'mara and said well, yeah, you know, if he didn't stop the fight, he would have been injured much more seriously. so it was kind of shocking, actually, what the prosecution let the defense get away with today, piers? >> right. thank you very much indeed. my interview with the classmate, star witness rachel jeantel. that's next. you'll find reviews on home repair to healthcare, written by people just like you. find out why more than two million members count on angie's list. angie's list -- reviews you can trust.

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book hoodie on top of eacher a white guy or his panic guy with a red sweat shirt yelling help. one guy on top with the black h hoodie was pretty much throwing down blows kind of mma style. was that the context in which that happened? >> yes. >> maybe jonathan good's testimony could prove damaging for the prosecution. watching the hearings all week, right now mr. parks joining me, co-counsel for the family. the general consensus seems to be a difficult day for the prosecution. would you go along with that? >> i really wouldn't. i think, piers, it's really important, if you listen to the testimony of mr. good, the way he described the person on top was holding the other person

down, so even if he's correct, the whole mma style that mark o'mara put forth is not totally true. if you listen to the testimony he described the person on top wasn't whaling away, you may recall in opening statement, whaling away with punches. that's not what he described. i think what happened, they took this theory, tried to put it forth like it happened. yes, there was a scuffle and rolling around on the ground. let's go back to what is important here. george zimmerman got out of his truck, profiled and went after, meaning he was trailing behind trayvon martin, and so people sort of forget that part because that's the major part of this case, the fact that this would have never have happened if george zimmerman would have stayed in his truck. >> do you know if trayvon martin ever trained for mma style marshall arts himself? >> i can't -- i can't confirm that or deny that at this time, but i think what is important

here is they have put forth that and i think mr. good's testimony is real important. if you look at the details of him describing the fight, he -- he actually even in the clip that you just played right, he actually talks about the person on the bottom fighting back to some degree, too. so the notion that he said at one point in trying to say that in putting forth the theory of mma style, the person's legs were held down the arms of the person on the ground is simply not true. they were fighting and in this situation, they -- when he was also asked about the part of being on the concrete, he doesn't describe a situation where someone was just being pounded and pounded into the concrete step after step. so i -- >> right, that is true -- >> the prosecution -- >> sorry, let's watch another clip from his testimony, jonathan good because a lot of what you're saying is correct. let's watch this again. >> you mentioned you, the second positioning or the change in positioning we call it, they were horizontal at that point

but you could tell it was two individuals, the same people. >> yes. >> okay. in terms of describing the individuals, can you describe o their faces or anything or just clothing. >> going back to vertical, i can tell the person on the bottom had a lighter skin color. >> he went back to the key statements on key parts of this. let me ask you a question, mr. parks, one that struck me watching today. the jury seemed much more engaged this predominantly white female jury seemed engaged today with jonathan good than they did with one of the key witnesses for the prosecution yesterday, rachel. is there a racial element to this that you're now concerned about in the sense that were they just not engaged with a young black girl giving evidence in the same way that they were engaged, apparently, with a

eloquent, middle-class white man? >> piers, i would have to respectfully disagree. i watched this jury the whole time, both of the days that rachel was there. they watched her the same. obviously the first day was tough for her. but the second day they were very engaged how she responded to answers. they watch how. she stood firm on her core believes that trayvon was scared of the guy, described him as creepy and followed trayvon. additionally, most importantly, though, when it got to the point when they were confronting each other, she stood firm in that trayvon and george zimmerman had this encounter. so they paid attention. i watched them. i have one of the best seats in the house watching the jury and i saw them writing intensively. so i believe firmly, most importantly, they watched all week and saw countless numbers of witnesses who have put george zimmerman on top. yes, mr. good has a different version of it, but even his

version wasn't devastating to the prosecution's case. i mean, when he talks about he couldn't really tell who was yelling, 100% sure, then he is beginning to step back a little bit in what he was saying. >> right. darrell parks, thank you very much indeed for joining me. the star witness in this riveting case is rachel jeantel who, depending on your opinion, either helped or hurt the case. thank you for joining me, first of all. you went to middle school with rachel. tell me about the kind of person she is. >> yes. well, when i met her in middle school, i never talked to her, but after i had my son, i came back to nor land and she was in my fifth period class. >> did you speak to her at all? >> i sometimes talked to her,

but not nothing serious. like she would leave stuff on my facebook, like a lot of inspirational stuff. if we did talk, it would be about the class. >> when she gave evidence, what was your reaction to the criticism and support she received? >> i was shocked. i mean, they was saying that she was rude and that she was disrespectful and i didn't feel like she was disrespectful. i just felt like they asking her a lot of questions, and she didn't know how to react to all of them. >> when she talked about, you know, creepy ass crackers and that kind of thing, did you think she was using terms that are racist or just terms that young people use these days in the era that she comes from? >> well, you know, we go to

norland that's how we talk. i'm sure a white area they would call black people niggers and stuff like that. >> in your experience, is it a racist term for white people? >> i'm not racist because i'm from england but that's just how people in florida describe white people, that's what i know. >> did you know trayvon martin at all? >> no, he -- i just know he went to my middle school, but i never seen him before. >> i want to play you something, one of the clips from rachel's testimony, when she talked about the letter that she sent, that she couldn't actually read back because she hadn't written it herself. let's watch this. >> are you unable to read that at all? >> some of it i do not. >> can you read any of the words on it? >> i don't understand cursive.

i don't read cursives. >> what was your reaction to that part? it was a pretty damming look at the education she has. are you surprised she couldn't read her own letter? >> no, i'm not surprised because we are in an intensive class because we failed. not everybody knows how to read, as well, if you're in an intensive class. >> in terms of the reaction that rachel has had, a lot of very nasty criticism has come her way as somebody that knew her, not that well but you knew her, what do you feel about that, that this young woman has been put through so much real attack from many quarters? >> it's sad. it's devastating. it's probably had a lot of effect on herself esteem, she's come to court and testifying and

people just put her down, just not really -- i know it's not a nice feeling. i know it must hurt a lot. >> thank you very much indeed for joining me. >> okay. bye. coming next, a closer look at zimmerman's injuries and the fight that left trayvon dead. what did today's testimony tell us about it? that's coming up next. . hey hun, remember you only need a few sheets. hmph! [ female announcer ] charmin ultra soft is made with extra cushions that are soft and more absorbent. plus you can use four times less. charmin ultra soft. plus you can use four times less. every day we're working to and to keep our commitments. and we've made a big commitment to america. bp supports nearly 250,000 jobs here. through all of our energy operations, we invest more in the u.s. than any other place in the world. in fact, we've invested over $55 billion here in the last five years - making bp america's largest energy investor.

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day five, more fireworks from the witness box. what would it mean for the jury? i bring in my guests, is still

with me. welcome to all of you and gloria, thank you for staying with me. johanna, let me bring you in here. you're an expert in this thing. in the end, this could welcome down to this jury of women predominantly white women just making a personal judgment call as to whether they think george zimmerman acted in self-defense and genuinely feared for his life or not. is that how you're seeing this? >> well, certainly that will be the bottom line in the their reviewing each one on these witnesses that comes forth is they will rely upon their own life experiences, and i think what was interesting about rachel is that for many of these people, the jurors, they may have needed a cultural person to explain responses but that won't happen. the fact that maybe they were paying less attention to rh and will more attention to the

fellow today, i think goes to how each person, each witness comes through in the courtroom. so, on balance at the end of the trial after they have heard all of these witnesses, they are going to look at who they think was the most credible and they are going to look at what their own life experiences in coming to an ultimate determination. >> yeah, piers, i just want to say i am very concerned because i know learned from your show yesterday that rachel, in fact, had private counsel. if she had a private attorney, then that private attorney really should have prepared her for her testimony. should have helped her to understand the rules of courtroom etiquette, how to answer a question, how not to be combative with the attorney asking the question, how to give a clear answer, and i think she was very bright. she just wasn't well educated and not used to being in a courtroom and i think she could have been better prepared. she was better prepared the second day.

did she talk to that attorney between the first day and second day? i don't know but i put a lot of responsibility on that person. >> piers -- >> sorry, yes, go ahead -- >> no, i totally agree with gloria, the way the manner in which she came in the courtroom with the attire she had on. i referred to that last night. the fact we know over the weekend and maybe before she was tweeting information about here are my nails. these are my courtroom nails and by the way, here is the bottle of booze that i consumed. any lawyer, lawyering 101 would have been for them to reach out to her well before she even became a witness in court this week and said, you know, looked at what her social media footprint was and to say to her stop, you cannot do anything further. that did not happen and granted, the jurors maybe didn't necessarily hear that because they became sequestered as of

this weekend but if there is anything before they might have had access to, we wouldn't know. >> let me bring in judge alex. what is your take on how the week has unfolded. the general perception is it was going well for the prosecution, but today they hit the bufferers abit. >> i think saying it was going well for the prosecution is a massive over statement. this was a devastating week for the prosecution. at this pnt in the trial, it's the prosecution's case. we should all be going wow, he did it. he's definitely guilty, and then you get to the defense's case and it starts to shift and you start to wonder whether there is reasonable doubt of not. the prosecution is calling witnesses who make a point for them and make one or two points for the defense. you're -- if anything, the doubt, the reasonable doubt is as to the prosecution. it's almost like they are trying to create a reasonable doubt. did the mma thing mean he's on top? that more creates a doubt than

anything because the witness that saw him the best was mr. good, who was the closest, 15 feet away, none of the other witnesses saw colors of shirts or anything. the other witnesses said trayvon was on top was basing it on the fact she saw a picture in his football jersey when he was 12 years old and said the guy on top was bigger than that. so this guy is seeing the color of the red jacket and saying he's on the bottom. the guy dressed in black is on top. he says that zimmerman was screaming. he says i can't swear he was screaming but i could hear him like if he was looking at me screaming and the guy on top was facing the opposite way, it would sound like more much distance. when you put the bricks together it's like the defense is building the defense case completely in the prosecution's case. it's been a disaster for the prosecution. >> fascinating assessment there judge alex. paige pate, what is your view because that flies against what many are saying. what do you think? >> i certainly agree that the defense had a great day today.

it's not the common situation for a defense attorney to be able to use prosecution witnesses to prove their own case in the middle of the prosecution's case. and that's what is happening right now. i do think the prosecution had to call those witnesses warts and all, you got to get fact witnesses in front of the jury. you don't want to leave that for the defense lawyers, but all and all the defense is well ahead. >> they absolutely had to call john good because under florida law there is amis versus state which says if the defense calls a witness that the prosecution didn't call and knew about, the defense can get up in closing argument and say to the jury, we have no burden of proof but we had to call this witness because the prosecution was tailoring their evidence, that they were showing you. state did not want that argument in closing, so they took their lumps by calling him thefl semis. >> i would agree, but the state hasn't rested yet. we'll hear more witnesses next week, probably scientific witnesses, technical witnesses, but i would be surprised if the

prosecution doesn't have a few very solid, very favorable witnesses waiting in the wings to testify toward the end of their case. >> gloria -- >> piers, i have a question. >> yeah, johanna? >> i have a question for the legal analysts on the panel and that is, there's obviously focus on what happened during the -- during the fight. what -- why is the prosecution not focussing on the fact that zimmerman left his car, left to follow trayvon, and the fact that people that are in neighborhood watch are taught by law enforcement three things, to observe, to report, and to be a good witness. >> yeah -- >> they are not taught to take things into their own hands. >> that's a great point. >> judge alex? >> i'm a former police officer, and we love the neighborhood watch people to observe and report and not get out and

follow anybody because things like this happen, you get killed by somebody who is a dangerous criminal or accidently do something to somebody who wasn't because you don't have the training. but the reality is and people don't like to hear this but it is the truth, leaving the car, following him, approach -- even approaching him, which zimmerman is not admitting, going up to him and saying what are you dog here is not illegal and doesn't add no to anything. what really matters is confrontation. when they came together who started the aggressiveness of the fight. who through the first punch? and nobody can tell us that. at that point, if zimmerman through the first punch he can't claim self-defense unless he made an effort to retreat. even a person who starts it if they say wow, wow, i'm stopping, backing out and try to retreat, they can still under florida law claim self-defense but getting out of the car, the following, listening to the police officer -- i mean, the dispatcher, as much as people think that should be significant

is inconsequence l to this. it basically a is dispatcher not wanting you to get hurt -- >> okay. that's a fascinating assessment. gloria, you're going to stay with me so i'm come back to you after the break. to my other guests, thank you-all very much indeed. >> thank you. >> when we come back to rachel jeantel's yes, sirs to the mma moves. is it because of race, class, or self-defense? -yeah! go, angie! -whoo-hoo! [ sound fades ] at a moment like this, i'm glad i use tampax pearl. [ female announcer ] tampax pearl protects better. only tampax has a leakguard braid to help stop lea before they happen. tampax pearl protects better. to help stop lea before they happen. i tthan probablycare moreanyone else.and we've had this farm for 30 years. we raise black and red angus cattle.

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you described him as a creepy ass cracker? >> yes. >> so it was racial, but it was because trayvon martin put race in this? >> no. >> you don't think that's a racial comment? >> no. >> no denying rachel jeantel is a polar rising figure as jonathan good's testimony was electrifying. this is fascinating because of race, class or self-defense? joining me now angela and sherry williams a professor at syracuse university and gloria still with me. sherry, is it about race, this trial? >> i think -- well let me talk about the representation of rachel jeantel because i think that's important and a lot of that is wrapped up in a lot of the racism, class, sexism and a

lot of the look that's deeply rooted in this country, because i study social media at syracuse university, and when i was looking at a lot of tweets, posts, i saw a lot of ugly vicious venom spit at her. there is a lot of ugliness on twitter believe me, because i study social media but the volume of what people were saying. so much of it and came at such a fast pace and it was really based on how she looked -- >> i tweeted about her and said i found her a pretty compelling witness and quite credible and i got bombarded with very hateful tweets, actually and i was taken aback by them. it's a motive case and people on both sides are taking big extrem extremes. angela, what is your take on this? it's a self-defense case.

>> right. >> but is it impossible to eliminate race from this? >> it is impossible to eliminate race from this but what is most important at this point is this child rachel's humanity. people don't want to see her humanity and instead want to focus on negative stereo types on the way she looks or may speak and you have the keyboard asassens and twitter terrorist who are attacking a child, who is sharing her very personal and traumatic story of hearing her friend murdered on the phone. i mean, this -- this young girl is incredibly brave and should be celebrated and instead, she's being mocked and villified by these people. it's terrible. >> gloria, you represented many victims over the years, certainly young women been through appalling crimes, many of them ill educated, many of

them maybe not the most eloquent kwenlt people in the courtroom. i imagine you have great empathy for people like rachel. when you see the reaction, putting that to one side, what kind of impact would it have on the legality of the court process itself do you think? >> well, i do think that it would have an impact on the jury, how she comes across on the witness stand, and it may be that some people who are on the jury are not understanding some of the issues of race and class that -- that have been brought up by the guests and -- but i might add that, you know, we do have this image of opra winfrey who is large and african american and one of the most loved persons in the country and the world -- >> i don't think we can compare opra to rachel, though, i mean -- >> well -- >> the comment that was made -- >> black women in this country,

op opra winfrey, i don't think that's a fair comparison because we don't have a lot of images of black women on main stream media -- >> right. >> it has to do with her youth, the fact that she may not have as much education, was not comfortable in the courtroom -- >> yes, absolutely -- >> she was very vulnerable at times, came across as very authentic. i think most people do believe she was very upset about the killing of her friend. >> right. >> but, you know, and it may be that she's used to kind of copping an attitude as younger people would say -- >> i think that was -- >> she was continue fronted -- >> that's her style. >> i think that was a self-defense for her. >> yes. >> this young girl is probably suffering from some form of posttraumatic stress from herring hear friend murdered on the phone, and i don't think anybody is focussing on what that young girl may be feeling.

again, going back to her humanity as a person and understanding that to sit on a stand at 19 years old, to testify in front of the man that you think killed your friend at the most high-profile trial of the year that's being broadcast around the world, i don't think anyone could do a great job under those scenarios, but -- >> okay -- >> she could have done a better job -- >> i think -- >> i think she could have done a better job. >> she was honest and that's what matters. >> if i was her attorney i would have sat with her for probably a week -- >> sure. >> and gone through it every single day so she understood how the questions needed to be answered, she needs to answer them truthfully. >> right. >> which from her point of view which she was doing but communicate in perhaps a more effective style. >> if i can jump in for a moment. rachel jeantel and the jurors

have something in common. before this trial they were living their lives as regular women going on their regular way and now they are at the center of one of the most high profile racially charged cases of probably the decade and they have a lot of responsibility and pressure on them because of the role in this and i think maybe the jurors can empathize with the fact that, you know, their lives are changed now and they have a lot of responsibility in this case, too, just as rachel does. >> okay. good point to end on. sherry, angela and gloria, thank you-all very much indeed. coming up a look ahead to monday's testimony. martin savidge is live in florida. who will take the stand, coming up. 'one size fits all'. it doesn't. that's crazy. we're all totally different. ishares core. etf building blocks for your personalized portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus, which includes

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that is to come, the prosecution probably is going to start putting forward witnesses like the medical examiner, and that can be very interesting, because the body of 17-year-old trayvon martin could tell us a lot about what went on. i would also expect you're going to hear from the person who ran that martial arts gym. and then one or both parents of trayvon martin may take the stand. they will finish before the fourth of july, and the defense will begin next friday. >> trayvon's parents would be extremely emotional and very powerful you would think for the prosecution. but what about george zimmerman giving evidence? could we at any moment be sprung that as a huge surprise? >> reporter: you could, and i will never say it won't happen, but i would be very surprised, and in constantly talking with

those, it's unlikely he would take the stand. there's too much at stake. >> and the one thing we haven't heard much about, which surprises me in the first week, is guns. in the end, you had somebody shooting somebody to death with a gun. yet we've hardly heard a mention of the word "gun" in the first six days. >> reporter: it's possible that could come up further. but remember, he was licensed to have that weapon, so there was nothing clandestine about it, and in florida, there are a lot of people who have weapons that has not so far been an issue. it's whether he was justified in using it. >> martin savidge, you've done a terrific job all week. thank you very much indeed. we'll talk again on monday. we'll be right back after this break. checking her heart rate, administering her medication, and just making her comfortable. one night britta told me about a tradition in denmark, "when a person dies," she said, "someone must open the window so the soul can depart."

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