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>> yes. >> you ended up here and is this when he circles your car? >> yes. >> he comes up from where? >> i don't know. >> you just notice he's circling your car? >> yes. >> you're still on the phone? >> yes. >> are you giving them a description? >> yes. >> where does he go when you liez lose sight of him? >> he walks back into the darkness. >> does he make the turn? you can be the see him? >> correct. >> you're still in your car? >> yes. >> then what happens? >> the dispatcher asks me what direction he went and what direction i was at. >> you don't realize what street you're on. you're trying to figure out what street you're on. you see him go here. what do you do? >> i got out of my vehicle to look at this house's address and see if it was a sign there.
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there wasn't. i walked through the dog walk to see if there was a sign here on an address a this i could make out easier. >> then what happens? >> the dispatcher asks me if i'm out of my car. they said do you know what direction he went in. i said no. they said are you following him? >> i said i don't know where he went. >> you continue straight on the sidewalk? >> yes. all the way through. >> what happens. you decide you still don't know where you're at? >> i still didn't know where i was at but i was able to give the dispatcher a description from the clubhouse. i said they come straight in past the clubhouse and my car is right here. >> okay. is your car running or you shut it off. >> off. >> you just park here. you follow him. you walk here. when you get here you realize i'm just going to go back to my car, is that whats? >> no. the dispatcher says would you
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like a police officer to still come out. i said i don't know where he went. he asked me for what direction they went in or what road. i said i don't know where he went. they said do you still want an officer to meet you. i said yes. they said where do you want them to meet you. i said at my car. i start walking back towards my car. >> is this all dark in here? >> yes. >> there's no lighting back here unless it comes from someone's houses? >> yes. >> is it all dark down here so you can't see anything down here? >> yes. >> at what point and where from what bushes does he jump out? >> it was somewhere around here. >> did you know, is there bushes along this walkway. where are the bushes? >> the hedges are on the sides and the back of the buildings. >> you think it's somewhere up near the t where he jumps out? >> yes. >> did he jump out in front or did he come up behind you?
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>> i don't recall. >> he was from what you guess he's somewhere hiding at this t in the bushes when he jumps out? >> okay. >> then where do you end up when you're on the ground? >> he punched me in the face. i fell backwards. i don't even know where he ended up. >> when the police took you they took you -- >> back out this way. >> okay. when that man was standing there with the flashlight, do you remember what building he was from? >> no. >> do you remember what building you saw when you said you saw somebody? >> this one. >> you saw somebody over here when the guy says i'm calling? >> yes. >> this is the building where you see somebody? okay. he jumps out of bushes somewhere in this area? >> yes, ma'am. >> okay. what kind of gun.
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>> .9mm. >> i'll get you another one. you can have soda or coffee. >> water. >> do you need to use the restroom yet? >> no ma'am. >> may i approach the witness? >> yes, you may. >> i'm going to show you what's been introduced into evidence 176. do you recognize state's exhibit 176, ma'am? >> yes. this is the google map that he wrote on. >> is that the google map that you were using in the last interview with the defendant? >> yes, this the same map. >> okay.
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may the court assist us by dimming the lights a bit. i apologize. ma'am, i'm showing you state's exhibit 176. do you see it there? >> yes. >> is this the google map you used and had the defendant describe his actions and what and where he came into contact with the person we now know as trayvon martin? >> yes, that's the same map. >> let's go over a few things. i'm pointing to what appears to be a pink right here. what's the significance of that? does it say car on there? >> it says car. that's where he says his car was when he first noticed trayvon. >> all right. here is what i'm going to do. i'm going to blow up part of this map so jurors can see it.
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okay. right here i'm pointing to where it says the word car. he's actually writing that in or you writing that in. how does that progress? >> he wrote that down. i may have put the direction of the arrow showing the direction he was going. >> the defendant was driving. okay. what appears here is something in pink. what is that? >> that's to indicate where he first saw trayvon. >> he comes into contact and sees trayvon martin, the victim where the x is? >> yes. >> in terms of using this map, ipi see what appears to be the line. what's the significance of that? >> it shows the route of car and the line that leaves the x shows
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the route of where he says trayvon passed him and went behind the first set of houses there. >> okay. >> the houses to the right of the clubhouse, you see three. they're at the top of the t. >> right here. further down here? let's go back to right here. is that what you understood to be the clubhouse area that i'm circling right here? >> yes. >> there appears to be here an x and some lines right here. do you see that? >> yes, i believe it should say 911. that's where his car went when he said he called 911 there. >> may i approach the witness again? >> yes. >> i'm going to give you the actual exhibit. we have that up there. that's 911? tell us again the significance of this right here that i'm circling. this part of the exhibit. >> you'll see from the first
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place he says the car is there's a line that shows him going there. then instead of putting car at that location because he said he remained in his car, we used 911 to show that's where he was in his car when he called 911. >> now on this exhibit are there two lines one going there way and the other one going the same way but two lines going parallel at that point? >> yes. the x indicates trayvon martin, the first x all the way to the left. >> all the way over here? >> it's supposed to be a line showing the x stops at the car at some point where he says he looked into the car. >> he being trayvon martin looked into the defendant's car? >> that's what george zimmerman is explaining happens. >> okay. go ahead. >> then when i asked him draw a line where you say after trayvon leaves you where he ends up when he's out of your sight. that's the arrow that goes
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straight and ends up behind the houses right there. if you go up a bit it's right behind the house where he loses sight of him. he follows the street around. >> that's where the defendant claims that he lost sight of trayvon martin? >> yes. >> okay. now, you also have something here and i can't make out what that is, but it's pink and it's some kind of writing there. tell me the san francisco ignif that. >> it leaves the clubhouse. i asked him to draw where he goes from there. he initially wrote that he stopped there but scribbled that out to change where the car ends up a little more forward. >> right here? >> if that's where it says car. >> okay. he originally had it here and it
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moves here. a what happens over here? >> that where he says trayvon circled his car. >> where that circle is and the x that's where the defendant claims trayvon martin came up and circled his car, is that correct? >> yes. >> tell us what in terms of the defendant is telling you using this google map what he claims occurred after that? >> trayvon leaves that area and goes straight into the t. >> am i pointing it out this way? >> yes. >> he says at the top of the t he doesn't know if trayvon continues straight or if he went down. >> okay. let me, i'm going to point this cursor. the defendant claiming he didn't know if trayvon martin went this way or went down this way? >> that was my understanding. >> what else does the defendant claim? >> he got out of the car to locate a house address so that
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he could better tell dispatch where he was. this is all on the tape so you can hear exactly what he said. >> the defendant is claiming he got out of vehicle here to try to get an address to tell dispatch where he was at? >> yes. >> what happens? the reason i'm asking is it appears to be lines going this way. if you could tell us the significance of that? >> he says he goes all the way across the t to the other side. >> okay. stop me if i'm going too far. does he claim he's going like this? >> yes. >> all way to this street? >> yes. >> what is the defendant claim occurs when he gets over to the street that circles the whole retreat at twin lakes? >> i believe that's where he says he lost him. he's telling dispatch he doesn't know where he is. he says when he was there is when he no longer knew which direction trayvon had gone and thought maybe he was hiding.
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>> meaning he didn't know whether trayvon martin went this or whether he went this way right here, one of those two? >> yes. >> what does this defendant then claim at this point? >> he discusses with dispatch whether or not the police should still come to the scene and it's agreed they will. >> okay. what else does the defendant claim to what occurred? >> he begins to walk past back to the vehicle which would mean he has to go past the intersection to go back to where he parked. >> am i going the right way? >> yes. he says it happened at the intersection of the t. >> right here. what does this defendant claims happen there? >> that trayvon approaches him. he's not sure exactly where he came from. >> okay. in the interview that you conducted of mr. zimmerman, the defendant, he said something came out of bushes or something. were you trying to use in this google map determine or have him point out where it was he claims
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the victim came out of? >> right. in some of the areas you can see bushes but i couldn't see them in that area. i was trying to figure out what he was attempting to say. >> okay. what happens then? >> he says that's when trayvon approaches him and said what he said on the tape. >> all right. you have appears xs drawn right here. >> that's the location he said when he was calling for help and saw somebody at a residence he indicated that was the area that he had seen the person from a resident that's located in that area. >> okay. ma'am, you've conducted an interview and you conducted a second interview using the google map. do you take additional steps
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regarding your interview with the defendant? specifically, do you give him paper for him to write out a written statement? >> yes. i had him fill in a statement form. i just explained to him as best he could to explain everything he told me in the interview and be very detailed as to what he told me and try to put that in writing. >> now, in terms of the written statement, did you sit with him and go okay. this is not right, change this or how did that occur? di did you leave him alone or say you have to write this or this? how did that proceed? >> no. when i gave him the paper work to write the statement i left the room. when i came back he was done. i had him sign them. i didn't read them. i turned them over to investigators. >> when you say you actually gave him paper -- may i approach the witness?
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>> yes. >> i'm going to show state's exhibit 175. i believe there's no objection. >> yes, thank you. >> let me show you state's exhibit 175. do you recognize state's exhibit 175? >> i do. this is the statement that george zimmerman wrote that night. >> i believe is that four actual pages? >> i believe it was four, but i'll check. yes, it's four. >> when you say four actual page, what do you mean by that in terms of, you witnessed? every page you kind of write -- >> i don't mean i witnessed him filling it out. i witnessed he signed and that's his signature on each page. they swear to it. they affirm everything they wrote in the statement is true and they say yes and that's what i'm witnessing. >> he signed each page?
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>> yes. i did as well. >> you did as a witness too? >> yes. >> all right. may i approach? >> yes. >> i'm going to leave you exhibit 175. i gather the pages are numbered in some way, some fashion at the bottom? >> yes. down at the bottom it says one of four and the second should say two of four, three of four, four of four. >> what i'm going to do is blow this up so the jury can see this and get the first part first. are you getting -- what is up there at the very top? >> that's already preset print and he fills out the information it's asking for. >> that would indicate what, his
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ma'am, i'm going to go into the written part of the exhibit. first part here. this is his handwriting, the defendant's handwriting, is that correct? >> yes. >> if you can read what he wrote? >> in august of 2011, i can't read with the lights down. >> can you read it from over there. it's an eyesight test. >> it's not gone although i do wear contacts. they're not very helpful sometimes. >> i think jurors can see that. >> in august of 2011 my -- i don't know what i said there. maybe neighbor's house was broken into while she was home with her infant son.
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the intruders attempted to -- >> attack. >> i think so, attack her and did however spd reported to the scene of it, of the crime and the robbers fled. my wife saw the intruders running from the home and became scared of the rising crime within our neighborhood. i and any neighbors formed a neighborhood watch program. we were instructed by spd to call the nonemergency line if we saw something suspicious and 911 if we saw a crime in progress. >> let me interrupt you a second. how do i go back and get the
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second part? go ahead. i'm sorry. >> tonight i was on my way to the grocery store when i saw a male approximately 5'11" to 6'2" casually walking in the rain looking into homes. i pulled my vehicle over and called spd nonemergency number. i told the dispatcher what i witnessed and the dispatch took note of my location an the suspect. i think it's said possibly fled. >> now the word suspect, that's his word? were you telling him to put certain words to describe the person we know as trayvon martin? >> i didn't tell him any words to use. i told him to tell me to put in writing what he had explained to me and to be as detailed as he could. >> let me stop you a second.
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place for him to sign and a place for you to sign as a witness. is that correct ? >> yes. >> i think we're going to go to page 2 but give me a second to catch up to you. page 2, the top part reads the same. it's got his name and i'm going to highlight the first part. go ahead and read. >> in darkened area of the sidewalk as the dispatcher was asking me for exact location the suspect emerged from darkness and circled my vehicle. i could not hear if he said anything. the suspect once again disappeared behind --
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>> could that be between? >> possibly. between some of the houses. the dispatcher once again asked me for my exact location. i could not remember the name of i got out of my car to look for the street sign. the dispatcher asked for a description and the direction the suspect went. >> let me interrupt you. sorry. okay. go ahead. i apologize. >> i told the dispatcher i did not know. i was out of my vehicle looking in -- i'm sorry, looking for a street sign and direction the
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suspect went. the dispatcher told me not to follow the suspect. and that an officer was in route and i headed back to my vehicle. when i headed back to my vehicle -- i'm sorry. it's as i headed back to my vehicle the suspect emerged from the darkness and said you got a problem? i said no. the suspect said you do now. i can't figure out what that last word is. you do now and looked maybe. it maybe says and looked.
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>> we're going to move onto page 3. let me stop you before you read that and we're going to highlight the first part. he uses the word suspect to refer to trayvon martin. have you uttered those words or informed him of any way that's the word he's supposed to use to refer to trayvon martin? >> no. >> thank you. go ahead. page 3. >> finished off and looked and tried to -- i guess he's trying to say i looked to dial my phone. the suspect pushed me. the suspect punched me in the face. i fell back. >> backwards. >> i fell backwards onto my back. the suspect got on top of me. i yelled help several times.
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the suspect told me -- the suspect grabbed my head and slammed into into the concrete several times. i continued to yell help. each time i attempted to sit up the suspect slams my head into the sidewalk. >> hold on. i'm sorry. i'm trying to catch up here. sorry. go ahead. >> my head felt like it was going to plode. i tried to slide out from under the suspect and continue to yell help. as i slid, the suspect covered my mouth and nose and stopped my breathing. at this point i felt the suspect reach for my now
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my firearm. >> could that be unholstered? >> yes, that makes sense. in fear of my life. i unholstered my firearm in fear for my life as he had assumed -- >> could that be assured. >> you think it says what? >> i believe it's assured. >> as he -- i don't know if it's assured or assumed, he was going to kill. >> before you get to page 4, we got to pull it up.
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>> now i've seen the whole sentence maybe i can figure it out. my life as he assured he was going to kill me. >> okay. >> fired one shot into his torso. the suspect sat back allowing me to sit up and said you got me. at this point i slid out from underneath him and got on top of the suspect holding his hands away from his body. >> an onlooker. >> an onlooker appeared and asked me if i was okay. i said no. he said i was calling 911.
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i said i don't need you to call 911. i already called them. i need you to help me restrain this guy. at this point spd officer arrived and asked who shot him. i said i did and i placed my hands on top of my head and told the officer where on my person my firearm was holstered. the officer handcuffed me and disarmed me. the officer then placed me in the back of his vehicle. >> you signed that last page also like you had the prior four pages. >> yes. >> okay. >> now the defendant refers to trayvon martin as a suspect,
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correct? >> he did in the statement. >> in that written statement. in the prior statements he did not, the prior audio statements he didn't refer to him as a suspect? >> no, he did not refer to him as a suspect in anything but this. >> all right. >> when police officers are talking about a person they suspect of doing committing a crime do they refer to them as suspect? >> yes, we do if we suspect them of a crime. they're a suspect. >> okay. now i don't know if it would be a good time to take a recess. >> we'll recess for lunch. i'm going to remind you that during the lunchtime you're not to have any discussions amongst yourself or anybody about the case. you're not to read or listen to any television, radio rors about the case. not to use any type of electronic device about the case, people, places things or
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terminology. you're not to read, create any e ma mails, text messages or blogs. we'll be back at 1:30. please fold your note pads down and follow. >> judge debra nelson warns this jury daily and often do not tweet, read, discussion or talk. this is a sequestered jury. highly publicized case. a lot of information out there. some of it wrong, some of it right, some of it so off base. that's what she's trying to protect this jury from. don't consume the wrong thing. listen to the people you're listening to on the stand. a remarkable witness has just taken the stand. detective doris singleton not only did an audio tape but also
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took the written statement. we not only heard the words of george zimmerman, we saw and read the george zimmerman. this is a quick break that the judge is now going to take this recess. we'll see the great seal. there it is which signifies no more camera. we'll take a quick break and be back with what this all means and why it's so critical to the case, coming up. dad. how did you get here? i don't know. [ speaking in russian ] look, look, look... you probably want to
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welcome back the our continuing live coverage of george zimmerman on trial for second-degree murder. i'm ashleigh banfield live in san ford, florida. you're not missing any testimony. they're in a brief break inside that courtroom. man, was that significant what he heard today. the great seal is the shot you're seeing now but we're going to give you more testimony and we're going to get you right back into the live action the
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minute it sparks back up. in the meantime i want to break down why this latest witness is so critical. detective doris singleton has been on the stand for a better part of an hour. mark nejame is live with me here. while we've been listening to this, there's been so many bits and pieces that have escaped the general consumption of this case and they are the details that are the devil or maybe not. specifically, what george zimmerman said he did after he shot trayvon martin. explain the wording and why it's critical. >> i think you framed it perfectly. i think what so many have missed and what's so profound to me is we will hear the defense come forward and say those witnesses, those first several witnesses who all said that they saw george zimmerman on top trayvon martin, they're going to end
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upbringing to the jurors that yes, he was on top of him at a certain time but only after he have shot. then he laid him out an he was atop him which becomes consistent with all these first witnesses who came out running and looked through their window and say they saw george zimmerman atop trayvon martin. that seemed to escape everybody because there was a moment in time when george zimmerman according to what we're hearing from zimmerman was atop him. when you start putting the pieces together that becomes consistent with the defense theory that trayvon martin was ato top and the shooting took place and after that there was a rollover. this all happens within a few seconds. people get little looksies and that start piecing the case together. >> i want to bring in a couple other guests as well. we've been able to isolate that
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moment of testimony that's so critical. i want to replay it for you. i want to listen carefully to what this detective and george zimmerman are discussing and the description of this moment in the fight. have a listen. >> he banged my head again i just pulled out my firearm arm and shot him. >> okay. >> then what happened? you're both on the ground? >> i'm on my back. he's mounted on top of me. i just shot him and he falls off and he's like you got it. you got it. >> does he fall to the side and he stays laying on the ground? >> i don't remember. my vision was blurry. >> you didn't feel him fall towards you. he ended up to one side or the other? >> i don't remember. i think when i shot him it might have pushed him back.
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i didn't know what -- it felt like he was hitting me with bricks. once i shot him i holstered my firearm and got on top of him and held his hands out because he was still talking. i said stay down. don't move. then somebody comes out and i couldn't see. it was a flashlight. i asked if it was a police officer. he said no. it was a witness but he have calling the police. i said the police are on their way. he should be here already. i had called. he's like i'm calling the police. i'm like i don't need you to call the police, i need you to help me with this guy. >> i don't need you to call the police. need you to help me with this guy is the testimony you just heard from the audio tape. i want to bring in george howell who is live with me here at the courthouse. i'm not sure if this was surprising to you.
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i know there's been so much in discovery in this case but when you hear it from his own mouth within an hour or two of the actual killing it does sound very profound. >> reporter: the thing that we're looking for as reporters, is inconsistencies from looking at the different elements of discovery. when you look at the video, the video reenactment and compare that to the statement, the few inconsistency are the comments that trayvon martin made to him. you see them on the written statement. you don't hear them on that video and you don't hear them in that audio reenactment. that's what we're finding now. keep this in mind, officer singleton made the point that george zimmerman was read his miranda rights. he agreed to give his story without an attorney and he knew he was being recorded.
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>> not only that he was very detailed in his audio recording with the detective and then it matched almost moment for moment detail for detail his written statement which was also read out in open court. i want to bring in joey jackson. our legal analysts will help us. joey jackson anything you heard this morning that stood out to you as a moment that will stand out to the jurors? >> many. let me just say this. what we heard here is this. many have been asking will he testify. will george zimmerman take the stand. he just did in essence because his testimony was played and it was played relative to the time it occurred. this is why i think this is critical here. he was able to lay out in the prosecution's case number one, his basis for following him. what did he say? the prosecution has to establish some ill-will, some spite, some wicked mine. what he's talking about is about
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the break ins and the fact it was raining and he was walking casually about. that didn't seem to right to him. not only that but the demeanor will be relevant. do you detect his demeanor being of a person that was agitated. this is critical testimony. i think that what will happen is the defense will attempt to use it to their advantage. there with more nuggets here but the final thing i'll say, this was done without the benefit of him being cross examined. the prosecution has to point out any and all statements he's fabricating and as a result of that he's guilty and can't be trusted. that's what the prosecution must do. i thought this was very much a defense witness here. >> i keep thinking i'm in a defense case. i'm in week 2 of this trial.
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it's very difficult to cross examine a tape or cross examine a written statement. danny, i'm going to get you in a moment to weigh in. there's other critical testimony that came out. that's about the screams heard on the p 911 tape. who's screams were they? who can best determine whose screams they are? you'll find out what the expert has to say and why the expert thinks maybe his analysis isn't needed after all. it's coming up in a moment in our special coverage of the george zimmerman trial. >> does he look hurt? >> i can't see him. >> they're sending him. >> you think he's yelling help? >> yes. hi, buddy! that's why the free wifi and hot breakfast
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live coverage of george zimmerman on trial. i'm ashleigh banfield. at the seminole county justice center where they are at a break. we're monitoring it for you. all we have now is the great seal which means dead mikes in the courtroom. a great opportunity to highlight why this morning has been so critical inside this florida courtroom and why it makes a difference to prosecutors and to the defense. strangely enough we're in the prosecution's case but the defense is getting lots of points scored not even when the cross examined. there was a voice analyst who works for the fbi who is asked to determine who was it screaming in the background of those 911 calls. they sounded to the average
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reasonable person like someone screaming for his life but there were two men and who could determine who best screams they were, an analyst or maybe a family member? i want you to listen to what the analyst said that. he was speaking with the prosecutor about what they had to work with, how little they had work with and why maybe a familiar person might be able to determine who was screaming. have a listen. >> do i get what you're saying is it would be better the you were attempting a familiar voice identification to have someone who has heard potential subject here under a variety of conditions as opposed to talking to them back and forth in a courtroom or a meeting or something like that? >> yes, sir, that's correct. >> that would be the best approach you could take given this particular sound? >> yes.
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when we hear on the someone's phone say a young man's voice coming through and i may think this guy is young, 20 years old, probably. it can turn out to be a 55-year-old talking or maybe you may think this man is very old, maybe 30, 35 but he can turn out to be only 18 or 19. this al depends upon the individual too. guessing age is a little complicated. >> danny, i want you to come in and tell me why this is so significant given the fact that there are almost no exemplars of trayvon martin's voice to
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compare. we have plenty of voice of george zimmerman. we have almost nothing. i think three and a half seconds of trayvon martin to compare. >> this is some fascinating science. the end conclusion is the science can't help us. why? because of the quality of the recording and men and women and children have different registers. once we get into screaming everyone sounds similar. it's hard to tell apart. this sets us up for having a parade of witnesses on both side s, trayvon martin's family and george zimmerman saying i'm familiar with that person's scream. not because i'm an expert but because i know this person. that sounds like either trayvon martin's scream or george zimmerman's scream and then it becomes a credibility determination instead of a science. given the prosecution's difficulty so far that may be the best they can hope for is a straight up credibility
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determination. do you believe trayvon's parents or george zimmerman's witnesses. >> joey jackson, if the foundation of that analyst was to lay some ground work for trayvon martin's mother to take the stand and say that's my baby screaming for his life. then why wouldn't the defense use the same tactic and get mrs. zimmerman on the stand to say that's my george screaming for his life? >> you better believe they will. in an ideal world what did we know. we know the state wanted to call an expert to say we examined and it was without question trayvon martin's voice. that didn't happen because of the hearing that the judge said it denied. why? the science is not reliable. we'll find human mind is not as reliable, the human condition is not as reliable. when you scream it's not something we're hearing all the time. we hear people. we speak to our family all the time but are we screaming in
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high pitched voices, are we under duress or stress. it comes down to reliability even tho trayvon martin's parents will say it was him and george zimmerman's parents will say it's him. will either be reliable. it cancels each other out. that's why the other evidence is important because of who was on top of who. if you conclude george zimmerman was screaming and fighting for his life then you can conclude the person on the bottom and if fear for their life is the one who was screaming. that's what it may come down to. we just had evidence that was given on 26th of february, that was the night of the killing within hours of the killing, george zimmerman is telling this police officer, help me, help me. he's killing me. i was screaming. it's very powerful given the fact that nobody knew about this
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case on that day. this was not a media explosion. this was just george telling the cop without any other material to come in and make this bigger than it was that night. it's become so much bigger. >> which has no basis to fabricate which makes it pow powerful be. >> you have got to look at that and say that's strong testimony. coming up after the break not only will you hear what george zimmerman told that police officer but what he did the next day by volunteering to go with the cops back to the scene of the incident and do a walk and talk, navigate them through the exact moments, the exact places, the same spaces. what about inconsistencies? does he keep the story straight? that's coming up next. the great outdoors, and a great deal.
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in the second-degree murder trial of george zimmerman live here in sanford, florida. you're not missing a moment of testimony. that's why you see the great seal. it means mikes a dead, action stops. it also gives an opportunity to put into perspective what you have heard and why it matters. sometimes it seems weird why certain things will played out in court but it's also a chess game and a puzzle. it's strategy. make no mistake. this morning you may have thought you were hearing a defense case but you're not. you're still in the prosecution case. last week you might have thought
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the same thing. you're still in the prosecution case. they could be headed somewhere very significant. there is more evidence, video taped evidence that's coming in likely today, probably this amp in this case and it's george zimmerman walking back to the scene of the incident, the killing the night before. the next morning bandaged up. he walks police investigators back through the scene and he gives them his perspective how it played out moment by moment. words matter. let's listen to this particular moment where he describes that fight and how it came to an end and words that were used. you see it. you can pick out any inconsistencies. have a listen. >> i kept yelling help, help. he put his hand on my nose and hi other hand on my mouth and he said shut the [ bleep ] up. i tried squirming again.
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when he was hitting my head against it felt like my head was going to explode and i thought i was going to lose consciousness. he only had a small portion of my head on the concrete. i tried to squirm off. when i did that somebody hear opened the door and i said help me, help me. that said i'll call 911. i said help me. i need help. i don't know what they did. that's when my jacket moved up and i had my firearm on my right side hip. my jacket moved up and he saw -- i feel like he saw and looked at it and he said you're going to die tonight [ bleep ]. he reached for it. i felt his arm going down to my side. i grabbed it an grabbed my firearm and i shot him one time. >> well, there you have it. listen to my untrained eye that
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sounds pretty darn consistent to what he said the night before to the investigator in the interrogation room and what rewrote down in his written statement that was played in open court just within the last hour. i'm not the best at this. mark nejame is here. he's tried a few cases in the state of florida and you've been privy to so much. you've been reading along with the discovery. i haven't been able to spot the inconsistencies that the prosecutor promised us would indict george zimmerman. you're better at this. >> you're right. i do not see any material dis e discrepancies. i don't see a single major inconsistency that the prosecutor can say he's lying.
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maybe they're going to measure out times and distances. with statements, he's been consistent from start to finish about how this played out. >> you do play by play with me. we're always chatting away as we're watching this happen live. the first thing is how can you have your hand over mouth and nose and continue a beat down, a ground and pound. >> that's a very valid point. all this is happening within split seconds. you heard him say his mouth was covered and nose which was consistent with his earlier statements but you didn't hear any of the other witnesses say yes that is what happened. we did hear them say it was a ground and pound. it was will be clear that it was george zimmerman on the bottom. the state is trying to make a case otherwise but i think it's weak, weak situation. grass stains, forensics. >> i can't wait for forensics. thank you very much. to the rest of my guests thank
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