hear to make sure that it makes sense. >> let's start off then not to belabor too much keeping in mind your direct testimony but let's start with you he told you he was on his way to super target. did that seem usual or unusual? >> every single sunday like clock work. >> tell me what he said to you about him first noticing who later became known to all of us as trayvon martin. >> he observed trayvon walking between two sets of town homes and looking into, i believe there was a window to one where the light was on and you could see someone was looking into the window of a town home. it was about that time that trayvon and george made eye contact with each other. both aware of the other's

presence. >> okay. in that initial contact did he seem to you as though he was angry or anything like that with who this person was? >> no, no. george said he wanted to make sure he just got with non-emergency dispatch and had them send a police officer. >> he told you he did that? >> immediately. >> you know from your conversation with george that entire conversation was recorded, correct? >> yes, i do. >> from your conversation with george about this night and other nights george zimmerman knows those phone calls are recorded? >> yes. >> tell me then again he's explaining to you that trayvon martin is walking up and near his vehicle at some point? >> correct. >> came walking from between the town homes down to the sidewalk or the road area was. >> are you taking any notes or

just listening to him? >> i'm driving. >> at some point it became apparent to you that mr. zimmerman had stopped his car by the clubhouse, correct? >> yes, he did. >> and trayvon martin came up towards his car and looked in a window or walked partially around it? >> very close. walked around it. they made eye contact several more times. very aware of each other's presence. >> during this second eye contact did george zimmerman relate to you in any way he was angry or anything about trayvon martin or this person who was there has? >> no, not at all. >> he further told you he was still on the phone with non-emergency? >> he remained on. >> then we move forward to i think you said that george

zimmerman did what he thought he should to keep trayvon martin in sight? >> correct. >> is that pretty much the way -- tell me how he related that part to you as best you can recall? >> he said he heard from the sanford polices that showed up to the clubhouse to give instruction to neighborhood watch people was to always try to keep whatever subject that you're observing in sight. it makes it much easier for a law enforcement officer to show up and make conduct with the subject if you're on phone with dispatch and can see the subject. >> did he relate to you that the non-emergency dispatcher told him on a couple of occasion tell me what he's doing now or let me know if he's doing anything else? >> he told me what he was doing. he didn't tell me the dispatcher said certain things. >> basically, george zimmerman as he's telling you this story recounting to you actions,

correct? >> yes. >> not necessarily i did this because of this reason or i did this and sort of super imposing the conversation he's having with non-emergency onto your conversation? >> no, not at that time. >> he was basically saying a rendition of what was going on? >> correct. >> just so the jury is clear about how long was this conversation between george zimmerman and you during this car ride? >> the drive from the sanford police department to near the intersection and lake mary boulevard which would have been about 14 minutes, 15 minutes. >> during that time was other things being discussed like whatever shelly was doing with him? >> she didn't interject. >> during this conversation he's telling you he's trying to keep an eye on trayvon martin however he can. >> that was his intent to keep

his under observation. >> at some point did he say to you that i couldn't see him any longer or that he lost sight of him? >> that's one of the reasons he got out of vehicle. >> tell me how he related that to you. >> he said he went in between the sets of town homes down the dog path, a walking path. >> when you say he you mean trayvon martin? >> right. >> he lost contact in the darkness in between the town homes on that walking path and then he got out of his vehicle to -- it may have been at the time someone is asking him where's your exact location because the officer was getting close. as the police officer gets closer and closer to the actual scene the dispatch likes to tell them exact street numbers so you can find your place exactly. that's what he was looking for. >> george zimmerman never told you during this conversation that george zimmerman ever went down the dog path, correct?

>> he did. he left his vehicle. >> walked down the path. >> correct. >> do you know this area we're talking about? >> i do. >> you know flst a path that goes through retreat view circle and a right path. >> a t. >> he said trayvon martin went down the t, correct? >> perhaps. that's what he believes because the street beyond was lit better than the dog path was. if trayvon had gone to retreat view circle, he would have seen him or his shadow. because he lost sight of him around the time where the t was he just -- he said i believe he made his turn down that dark dog path area that was not well lit. >> tell us the path, if you recall, that george zimmerman told you he took as he was on the phone. >> he said he went strght to

go through since he lost contact. he wanted to go straight through to get a house number. >> straight through. >> straight through not take the right on the t and find a house number. you want to make sure you get the exact house number because there was a lot of units there on retreat view circle. the exact house number would have brought the police faster. >> he told you he was on his way back when the altercation began. >> correct. >> they said whatever they said to each other as you testified to. just to fast forward, i think you said that you weren't taking notes during that event. >> i was driving. >> have you ever talked to george again about the facts of this case or was that the only time? >> one other time i heard him relay the incident? >> when was that?

>> the next morning. >> we'll talk about that in a moment. >> okay. >> during the event in the car when he said things like do you have a problem? you do now or no i don't. are those as best you can recall the words george told you from the night before? >> that's correct. >> talking about the actual mounting when he said that trayvon martin had mounted him. i think you said at one point he was straddling and the knees may have been up as high as the armpits, is that correct? >> in the rib area. could have been as high. >> i'm asking you. i would like you to tell the jury without presuming or suggesting, rib, armpit, hips. for right now just recount what george remembered of the event and what he told you. >> i guess during the struggle the position of his knees and legs would probably change with

george squirming. at one point they were around his ribs with george trying to squirm off the sidewalk and on to the grass. i guess his knees came up higher or once they get closer to the grass in a fight or a scrap like that the knees move. >> was he consistent it was trayvon that mounted him? >> yes. >> was he consistent that it was him screaming for help? >> yes. >> there was an event with the hand over the mouth? >> yes. >> did he tell you how long that portion of the overall altercation lasted?

>> 20 seconds. he didn't say how long. >> did that as he related it to you seem to be significant that he could breathe for whatever length of time? >> it was critical. >> somebody had a hand on the nose that already suffered the previous injury? >> correct. >> as he was relating that to you was that a real focus of his? >> that was the focus. he was losing oxygen. he felt he was not able to breathe and that's why he was desperate to clear an airway. >> in your experience as law enforcement would you agree that's a natural reaction to traumatic events? >> i would think so. >> do people involved in events like that focus on particular

parts on it. >> almost exclusively to the admission of others. >> car accidents you might know kus on the speed of the car coming at you and forget about other cars around you? >> correct. >> is that unnatural in your experience as law enforcement? >> it's typical. >> when you go to the scene of an accident or anything that you investigate do you find in your experience that people often have tunnel vision views of what happened to them? >> sometimes very specific, correct. >> does that mean they're lying? >> not at all. >> why is that? >> it's been proven it's typical. sometimes they will focus on one event to the exclusion of others. >> how about their ability to recount events with any particular clarity at all? >> i'm going to object it's beyond the scope? >> sustained.

>> you testified concerned this whole event around the gun. did you have a similar concern about his ability to recount those event? >> no. >> tell me what he said about having to grab his gun. >> he said that trayvon reached down and grabbed for the gun wln it w whether it was on the leather holster or the metal part itself. at the time i didn't see a difference. i thought the intent was clear. that's when he had to -- he freed one of his hands and went and got the gun. he either broke contact or knocked somebody else's hand

away, trayvon's hand away from him reaching for the gun and grabbed the gun and he drew it. >> do you recall if he said trayvon martin touched the gun or he was reaching for it? >> i thought he said he grabbed the gun. i only heard the story twice. whether it was grabbed the gun or grabbed for the gun perhaps it was the intent. i believe he said he grabbed the gun. >> then he told you the rest of the story as you relayed it? >> correct. >> about trayvon martin sort of saying something to him. did that seem unusual to you that someone shot can still say something? >> yes. that's very, very common unless you're shot in the wind pipe, in

the vocal cords you would be able to talk for six to eight seconds. >> george zimmerman said he held his hands away from his body. >> he had got off of george, laid down on the grass and george jumped on top of him to pin his hands down. to try to solicit help from people around. >> trayvon martin may have fought them back under him. is that the way it was presented to you. >> speculation. >> no. >> did george zimmerman even know to talk to you about the fact that trayvon martin's hands were found back under his body. >> i didn't know that fact. >> he didn't see any need to explain that to you? >> correct. >> objection.

>> let's talk about your recounting -- you said you heard a story the next day. any differences in what we talked about so far? >> none. >> who was that discussed with or in front of? >> my wife and his wife. >> was it different in any context? >> it was -- george looked different. he was not as wide eyed and he didn't appear to be as in shock the next morning. >> let's fast forward. how many months until you decide to recount this in a book form? >> i may have to look. at least four months. >> did you have any conversation with mr. zimmerman to corroborate that what you recall rauled happened or what you recall him telling you happened was accurate? >> we weren't able to contact each other after he was arrested

the first time. there was no contact. >> all right. >> you haven't talked to him? you haven't shown him a draft of the book and say i'm going to say this? >> there was no corroboration to that. >> this is your memory.

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telling mark his story. telling him what happened that night. telling him how it unfolded. he's up on the stand telling us what george told him. let's listen. >> i think you -- >> i guess whether he's going over the holster part or gun, but grabbed. the gun didn't come out. he grabbed the gun. >> that's what i'm saying. >> yes, sir. >> mr. zimmerman said he didn't grab for it, he got it. >> that's what i thought i heard. >> okay. then he said i thought i shot so i put my gun in my holster. >> correct. >> he put the phone in his pocket to turn back and the guy was about 15 feet walking towards him? >> correct.

>> thank you, sir. >> question and response. as to the re-holstering of the weapon. do you recall if he was re-holstered when he got up or if he had it in his hand when he was holding trayvon martin's hands down or some point thereafter. >> he may have had it. he may have had it in his hand as he jumped on top of trayvon and holstered when he saw the flashlight. i don't remember specifically. >> any re-direct? >> he holstered it? >> he holstered it. exactly when i'm not sure whether he to do up on still partially on top. >> you want to look at your book

a minute. page 29 at the bottom. did you quote him by saying after putting my gun in my holster i jumped on top of him and pinned his wrists to the ground. is that accurate? >> as far as i remember. he holstered, pinned his hands down. it's what i remembered him saying something like that. >> thank you, sir. >> thank you. may he be excused? . thank you. you're excused from the courtroom but you're subject to being recalled. >> ladies and gentlemen, we'll take a recess for lunch. before you go to lunch i'm going to advise you that during lunch you're not to discuss the case amongst yourselves or with anybody else. you're not to read or listen to any radio, television or newspaper reports about the

case. you're not to go on the internet by using any type of an electronic device to do independent research about the case, people, places, things or a terminology and you're not to read or create any e-mails, text message, twitters, blogs or social networking pages about the case. do i have your assurances that you'll abide by these instructions? >> yes. >> thank you. with that put your note pads face down and follow deputy jarvis into the jury room. >> as george zimmerman now take a moment to confer with his attorney in the quiet confines of defense table you can hear, but you'll never see those jurors stand up, push their chairs. they have big legal note pads. the same size legal note pad as i have here. this is what they have on their happens. they can't take them back with them. they have to leave them on their chairs in the courtroom.

some courtrooms their not ever allowed to take them away again. they get destroyed. most cases they will get destroyed. we're going to go to the picture of the great seal. i love the great seal. here's the issue. this is a best friend. a self-described best friend of george zimmerman. he wrote an actual book titled, "defending our friend, the most hated man in america." . he's the person that spent all of this time recounting what happened in those fateful moments. he's on the stand recounting for us what happened. there are discrepancies. when we come back after the break what points were scored, what points were lost. why that particular witness matter and maybe most importantly what's coming next. we're back in a moment. vietnam in 1972.

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welcome back. zimmerman on trial is the official name of the coverage and the reality is it's george zimmerman and it's second-degree. the victim in this case is trayvon martin. he's not there. he's represented by his parents. george zimmerman's parents aren't in the courtroom. they aren't allowed to be because they could be witnesses. will they be important witnesses. are there more critical witnesses to come? there's some crucial witnesses to come. wait for the fireworks on forensics. i want to bring in some of my special guests who have been watching this gavel to gavel. they can hear stuff during commercial break and know a thing about the law and in particular florida law. with me is mark nejame. he's a criminal attorney for

many years. he's spoken directly with some of the players in this case. he joins me live in the studio right out in front of the criminal county courthouse. also with me is danny savalos who has been helping me to analyze this case as well. george, howell is a correspondent who got that unfortunate assignment in a very hot and muggy florida on rainy days and thunderous days. i'm going to get you to do your best to put into perspective this last witness. a best friend and what he had to say. >> reporter: when you talk about mark you're talking about the person who spent several hours with george zimmerman immediately after the shooting. you also get some insight into zimmerman's demeanor. you get insight into his wife's demeanor. he describes him as being stunned and somehow detached. i want you to listen to just a

bit of what he said in court so you can hear for yourself. >> how was george presenting himself to you? >> detached. it's hard to describe. >> well is detached different from the way he normally is? >> vastly. >> when you see detached, what do you mean? >> i would say probably -- when you feel like you've -- it's hard to describe, sir. i would say he was probably in a position where he was not able to process. >> reporter: that is the night that osterman said zimmerman told him what happened that night. he made the point of a lot of what's in that book is through his memory. what he remembers zimmerman

telling him. he didn't take notes on that night. i want to also talk about his account of what happened. he basically says that george zimmerman was walking back to his car, was reaching for his phone to contact 911. that's when he says according to zimmerman that trayvon martin ambushed him, punched him in the face. that's when zimmerman fell to the ground. he said trayvon martin put one hand over zimmerman's mouth, one hand over nose to basically stop him from screaming and that's when he says also trayvon martin was throwing punches and started to reach for that gun. you're finding that the prosecutors and defense attorneys really are looking at exactly what is said in that book and comparing it to statements given through audio statements and video statements by george zimmerman. >> it's those discrepancies that the prosecutor is trying to point out however subtle. sometimes there's strength in numbers. i don't think the viewers can

hear it but the thunder claps are going overhead in florida. it's a very rainy and thundery day and it's more humid than it's been in the past. i only bring that up because i think you were watching. that last witness was sweating profusely in the courtroom. i'm told in the courtroom that temperatures are similar. >> reporter: one point and it could very well be nerves. we know we've spoken to mr. osterman. he was sweating in that situation. perhaps it could be nerves or it could be the temperature in there. it is hot outside. i've been in the courtroom outside. it's a pretty good temperature in there but whether it's nerves or temperatures still unclear. >> right. i think that's important to point out. unless you've ever sat on a witness stand and i have, it's very unnerving. lawyers who take the stand and realize i had no idea what it

was like to be on the other side of this. stand down for a moment. i want to fit in a quick break. you're not missing a moment of testimony. there's a break in that courtroom. when they take a break and the mikes are dead, it gives you a moment to show you what you may have missed but also the critical moment of testimony. we're back. ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, llllet's get ready to bundlllllle... [ holding final syllable ] oh, yeah, sorry! let's get ready to bundle and save. now, that's progressive. oh, i think i broke my spleen! home insurance provided and serviced by third party insurers.

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and the forensic could play in big here if george zimmerman's story is trayvon martin held his nose and mouth, how is he getting beaten down mma style at the same time. scri a listen at the friend des what george told him. >> you quoted mr. zimmerman as saying that trayvon martin put his hand, takes one of his hands and puts it over my nose and pinches it close while the other hand goes over my mouth? >> it was described something like this but a pinch like that and cover. >> shehe's using one hand over nose and one over the mouth. >> something like that. >> the defendant says he never knocked him off of him, right? >> that was not described to meh

jenkins. big points scored for the prosecution. >> it's a big point because they're trying to show the implausibility. in order to get a conviction they have to discredit his story. they have to show not only are these just minor inconsistencies, these are outright right. when does a person lie? when they try to cover up something they did and when they know they did something wrong and also a sign of guilt. the prosecutor is saying that george zimmerman embellished this physical encounter. we know there was some contact. we know there was some injury but was it enough, where are the injuries significant enough to justify george zimmerman turning around and shooting trayvon martin. the prosecutor made a great point. he's saying if both of his hans are on his face this guy is taking mma style classes three times a week why can't we just

throw trayvon off of him. >> how do you counter that? >> that's brought up by a third party witness. it shouldn't be a witness in the case. if he had named any other sport does that make it relevant if he participated in that. when it comes to self-defense, this is depraved murder. even if the jury disbelieves the theory of self-defense, the question is whether or not he had evil motive or ill-will or hatred. the issue of whether or not he held his mouth or punching him we already have a third party witness, mr. good, on friday who testified that likely it was trayvon straddling and his arms going down in a downward motion. if there are discrepancies between mouth being held or being punched, i don't know that the jury will consider that significant enough to disprove self-defense. there's going to be inconsistencies. we're not all robots. we can't tell the same story

five times in a row. >> detached was another word that came from the stand from the mouth of the best friend. coming up after the break what did detached mean? does it mean someone who didn't care he just shot a kid? does it mean someone who can't get his story straight because he's trying to process everything that happened? >> these are the arguments. how will they play out? [ male announcer ] for diarrhea, you take kaopectate.

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welcome back. a trial that has this country transfixed and believe it or not countries around the world are tuning in to watch how this plays out for so many reasons other than the crime itself. there's no secret that race has played a massive part of why this is so well known. it's no secret there's many who are for or against the process happening here in sanford, florida. no matter what you think about it. it's case, it's a prosecution and there's a man on trial that could spend many years behind bars if convicted. i want to take you to that man in his own words. he has not taken the stand and he may never take the stand. he's been watching himself talking at length in interviews and on tape.

listen as he describes exactly how it is he got on top of trayvon martin after shooting him and what he did with trayvon martin's arms. >> somehow i got out from under him. when he was hitting me, i don't know what he was hitting me with. i thought he had something in his hands. i grabbed his hands when i was on top of him and spread his hands away from his body. he was still talking. i was on top of him. >> george zimmerman says he got on top of trayvon martin after shooting him and thought there might have been something in his hands he had been hit with. he wanted to spread those hands out. here is the problem. when trayvon martin's body was found, the hands were underneath his body. don't ask me. ask the lead detective who came upon the scene. here is how he described it. >> do you recall he stated

trayvon martin fell on the ground face first. you recall that? >> yes, sir. >> do you recall the defendant stating he put his arms out, correct? >> correct. >> do you recall him saying that? >> yes, sir. >> show you state's exhibit 77. do you recall he took some photographs out there? >> yes. >> one of them was state's exhibit 77? >> yes, sir. >> may i publish that to the jury? >> yes. >> you recall the victim's hands being underneath his body? >> yes, sir. >> did someone say that was inconsistent that he put his hands out? >> that positioning yes. >> in that interview that you conducted the defendant didn't

say i put his hands out and after that i put them back in, did he? >> no, he did not. >> someone's got some explaining to do. mark nejame. i say point for a prosecution on this one unless there's a lot more i have to learn about how trayvon martin's hands went back under his body. >> that's exactly the prosecutor's attempt to do is bring out inconsistencies. ere's a big point for the defense on that and that is it does say that george zimmerman was atop trayvon martin with all the neighbors who say when they looked out they say him on top. >> if you're mark o'mara aren't you try to illicit how the hands got back under the body. >> a major issue. there's no other witnesses who have been able to say,000 hands got underneath. if you looked at trayvon martin's mother that was the most exprezzive. he rolled his eyes.

he owes that -- he believes that is not true. >> little known secret here. if the two of us do that in court we could be thrown out. there's a sign saying we will not tolerate facial expressions or nosises in reaction to what you hear. i think family members get little slack. it wasn't very overt. what exactly we were talking about. is there something else to come? some other forensics to explain how did trayvon martin's hands get back underneath his body if what george zimmerman is saying is true? back after this. tion, for it's smog. but there are a lot of people that do ride the bus. and now that the busses are running on natural gas, they don't throw out as much pollution to the earth. so i feel good. i feel like i'm doing my part to help out the environment.

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living continue coverage of the trayvon martin also versus george zimmerman case. it's george zimmerman facing second-degree murder charges. you're not missing any testimony. they're in a break. it's the great seal. it's the indication to the rest of the press, cameras off, mikes off. we're in a break. it gives a great opportunity to show you what you may have missed. there was a key piece of testimony and it was the best friend. the self-described best friend of george zimmerman who spent all those hours after the killing of trayvon martin with george zimmerman hearing the entire account from the accused. hearing what he did, what he said, how he looked. the injuries didn't need to speak. he saw them for himself and mark osterman just described them in court what he said his best friend george zimmerman looked like hours after the attack.

have a listen. >> we get into my vehicle. both shelly and george got into the back. i had a four-door vehicle. they got into the back. shelly is trying to put an assessment on the injuries that were to george's nose, the back of his head. he had a swelling on his left side of his head. about the size of your fist. it was a swollen area. not really a goose egg. it was a very big swelling area. >> back with me live here in sanford, florida at the criminal justice center is mark nejame. he's been watching this case since it began last february. when you hear that testimony and when you see those pictures, they blew them up this big and showed them all around court and described them and left them for the jurors to see on the back of george zimmerman's head. it's not lost that there is a guy who did get beaten up.

he got beaten up that night. you can see on the evidence these are right after the actual incident. his nose is bloody. the black eye came the next day. the butterfly bandages came the next day. you know there was a fight. his friend has called him det h detached. does that play well for the prosecutor or defense? >> they're both going to spin it for their defense. the depraved mind, malice. that's what the state will bring out. the defense will say he was stunned. it's not reasonable that somebody involved in that in a shooting and almost believing according to their testimony they were going to get killed. >> he had his head beat up. >> the standard is he's got to have a reasonable belief he was fearing death or imminent injury that was going to be so

substantial. that's the standard. he's got to go in there and say i was involved in in horrific situation. i can't remember everything chapter an verse. >> your saying the detached or tunnel vision could actually explain for any of these discrepancies. they are minor but there are several of them. i usually say strength in numbers. is that how the defense would take this? detached yeah, you ever killed a guy. i think they asked chris serino said no. never used by service revolving. >> that's why the defense was asking his best friend, somebody who was a former police officer say does everybody remember everything. he said no. they focus on the key parts and the rest unfolds later. >> when i heard detached. i say second-degree murder.

if you're detached after killing a teenager that could speak well. >> remember, no matter what you do, cry, laugh, scream, jump up and down, silent, there's also a spin because everybody's different. >> oh, boy. i've seen people mourn by partying, honestly. everybody mourns differently. trial is coming back. we've got our eye on the courtroom. you're not going to miss a moment. as soon as they start back up, they're not telling us who the next witness is. usually we get this nice big witness list. this time we get to stare at the seal and wonder. it's always a big surprise and a bit of a mystery. you'll find out along with us as soon as it happens. don't go away. it's going to resume soon. something big that's coming. make no mistake and rest assured forensics. it's csi, folks.

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mpblt welcome back. i'm ashleigh banfield in florida

and what can only be described as the hottest and muggiest day. i feel like i'm in the central amazon. if the jurors are on a lunch break they're not coming outside. it's thundering. it's raining. it's been like this most midday throughout this hot, muggy july trial. what's critical here is the lightning inside that courtroom. i want to do a whip around to my group who is watching this gavel to gavel. for starters, danny, i'm going to ask you if you look ahead to the next hour, what's the next shazam moment? what's going to hit he over the head? >> since we don't know who the witnesses are, i don't know if we'll get into forensics yet. i think we're going to see the prosecution try to put on a little more fact evidence.

at this point it's hard to say. for some reason they have kept us in the dark. i'll be curious to see who they call next. the prosecution has to be coming close to the end. >> faith jenkins, what's the moment? >> they have to put on forensics here. they have to put on an examiner to testify about what dna blood, in any, that was on trayvon and the trajectory of the bullet. it's going to be very interesting testimony. that's going to be key and essential for the prosecutor's case. >> mark nejame. what am i going to be surprised to see? >> the prosecutor keeps on pulling rabbits out of somewhere. i'll call it a hat. he ran a timeline. now he is working on that depravity issue. if he has any other witnesses that can show malice, depravity,

that's what the going to come next because he's building that portion of his case. if there's nobody else then there's time to get into the forensic. >> i'm all about the forensics. i watch live trials and find out what the molecular smoking gun tells me. with that said guess who handles that, people. we're fallible. thanks for watching. as we continue to keep our live eye on this trial you'll not miss a moment. we have our live cameras and a crew inside the courtroom. we're watching that seal to see when that shot widens out to see who the next person to walk through that door is. the mystery continues. the live coverage of the zimmerman case continues. we'll see you soon.

george zimmerman's best friend takes the stand in b the second-degree murder trial. we're bringing you up to the minute developments and live testimony. we're also following other big news stories. protesters packs the streets of cairo. they are calling for the egyptian president to resign. a man without a country. more governments say no to edward snowden's request for asylum. we begin with a president trying to hang onto power and the millions of protesters who want him out. thatth