tv CNN Newsroom CNN July 7, 2013 1:00pm-2:01pm PDT
1:00 pm
all right. don lemon in new york. don? >> all right. thank you very much. i'm don relon. the "newsroom" starts right now. we'll start where we left off with dan. we want to play the video for you now. >> look at him. hmm. yeah, yeah, he does. look at that one. look how his nose is up in the air. oh my god! oh, it's an accident! >> you're filming it, too. >> oh my god. >> oh no! >> oh my god. oh my god! oh my god! oh my god.
1:01 pm
>> you're filming the whole thing. >> oh lord have mercy. >> just look at this. flight 214's final moments. imagine the panic inside that airline r as passengers realize they were inside a burning plane. that had just crash landed. the man who shot that video, fred hayes, he joins me now via phone. thank you for joining us. you had no idea obviously this was going to happen when you took this video. close to this plane crash were you? fred, can you hear me? fred hayes, are you there? okay. he shot that video and appears he was across the water just taking pictures of airplanes coming in and he just happened
1:02 pm
to be able to catch this. we'll get fred back on the phone with us in just a moment. in the meantime, we want to go to cnn's dan simon. he was at the airport yesterday shortly after this happened and, dan, that video really shows what happened. i'm sure it will be a tool investigators will use, invaluable to investigators, trying to figure out what caused this crash. >> reporter: no question about it. i can tell you where fred hayes was. he was at a place called bayside park where save yags enthusiasts go and like to watch the planes take off and land here at the airport. this was right near the runway so here's fred hayes watching these planes. he's there with his wife and pulls out a cell phone or another camera and he is just rolling and happens to capture these very dramatic images. you can hear in the tone of his voice that he was quite surprised to see that occur. he knew instantly that there was an issue and if you take a look
1:03 pm
at that video, don, it totally matches up with what we have been hearing from the survivors and the witnesses. you see the plane come in low. you see that tail hit what appears to be the sea wall and then the plane seems to rotate almost 360 degrees counter clockwise before it comes to a complete stop. you also see what appears to be a fireball. we don't know if that's a fireball or debris and looks like a fireball. very, very dramatic images and as you said, this is something that investigators will want to take a look at, don. >> absolutely. stand by. fred hayes with back with us. how close were you when you shot this video? >> we were probably within a mile or so. we were just across the bay on the bayshore walk. >> and so you were there just randomly taking video of planes
1:04 pm
coming in just out for the afternoon? >> me an my wife had taken a walk. we were staying at a hotel nearby and we were taking a walk and, you know, i'd be observing planes pretty much all morning because i was out there earlier and so we walked down to the boat area of the walk where the airport is and we were watching the planes fly in and out for, you know, about half hour or so and, you know, i kind of became transfixed on this plane taxiing real slow and going in the direction i had seen before so as i was following that plane then that's when the other plane came in. >> did you notice anything unusual when you were -- this plane coming in too low or anything out of the ordinary for you? >> you know, i'm not sure -- give me one second, sir.
1:05 pm
can i talk with you -- be quiet. >> all right. fred, obviously -- >> can you hear me? >> having a conversation. yeah, yeah fred. i can hear you. go ahead. >> yeah, okay. so anyways, you know, as far as the only thing i noticed that was unusual was the airplane that i was filming is just seemed that plane was, you know, not where it was supposed to be. i hadn't seen any plane, you know, taxiing in that direction. they were also coming from, like, the far western part of the, you know, tarmac. to fly off. so, you know, at the end i just thought, well, he's kind of
1:06 pm
going where nobody's been before and then he was taxiing slowly. so i just decided to film him just to see what he was going to do. >> we're looking at an enhanced version of the video that we zoomed in on and you can see the plane sort of pitching up. you see it hit the ground and then pitching up which is why people may have thought it cart wheeled because you can see the underbelly of the plane and were you able to observe that as you were taking this video, fred? >> this is right here in the beginning of the game here getting outside. i didn't hear your last comment. >> as you're watching this, were you able to see because it was a little far away but we saw a zoomed-in version of your video earlier and you can see really the underbelly of the plane which is why some people may have thought it was cart wheeling. were you able to observe that while you were shooting this video? >> as far as when the plane was
1:07 pm
coming down, you know, it was definitely coming in low. and but the nose was up and that's what i really, really, you know, struck me was the nose was really pitched up in the air and, you know, so i was like, well, look at that guy. his nose is pretty high. and so, you know, it was one of those things where, you know, it appeared to me that the pilot's trying to avert the landing. that's what it appeared to me. >> yeah. were you able to see rescue crews? did they arrive? how quickly do they arrive? did you see passengers escaping from the plane? >> well, obviously, you know, when it happened there was a few
1:08 pm
minutes where -- where there was, you know, nothing going on but i would say the response team was pretty awesome. and they, you know, excuse me one second. >> viewers, stand by. we're talking to the gentleman that shot this video and obviously in a busy place and this is important that you get this information. this is no doubt the best video that we have seen, the most concise of this crash. everything else is after the crash. and people escaping the plane. the photographs that we have gotten. this video that you are looking at now actually records the plane coming in, the moment of impact, that crash landing and if you look there it skids down
1:09 pm
the runway. and then it pitches up from side to side. which some people may have thought was a cart wheel. that was the initial report. and then spinning around on the runway. fred, are you back with us again? >> yes, sir. >> okay. so fred, you said the response was pretty quick after this. and you were not -- you said you were about a mile away, right? you were not able to observe -- you couldn't see people on the runway, you couldn't see them escaping the plane? >> i did not. we could not -- we could see the landing or the chutes come down and we seen them come out but i didn't observe any people coming. my wife said she had seen a couple but it wasn't like on our side and our view that there was a lot of people, you know,
1:10 pm
coming down the evacuation chutes. >> were you able -- on the video, we can't hear an explosion. we can't hear the moment of impact. could you hear it where you were? >> yes. >> you could. describe it to us if you will. what did it sound like? >> it wasn't an explosion by any means before the plane impacted. it was, you know, again, it was just -- it looked like a normal landing, you know, maneuver. but he was just coming in nose high. and then i seen the tail section of the plane strike the tarmac. and, you know, it struck and then bounced forward and then got a little bit of airborne and, you know, kind of flipped over and kind of came in to view with my camera and then there was an explosion as far as -- we weren't sure there was some like
1:11 pm
orange or kind of gray colored vest but there wasn't fire at first and then, you know, fire kind of started after it settled. >> yeah. as we're looking at -- that was my next question to ask you. when you look at this sort of orange-colored dust as you were saying, it almost looks like an explosion. hang on, fred. so this is that plane coming in. and just as the edge of the runway, right there, it clips -- see it flips the edge of the runway? that was the first moment of impact and when investigators believe the tail section may have fallen off and that's what initially they believe. >> not, the tail section -- oh, i'm sorry. >> go ahead, fred. >> no. the tail section, as far as what i could see, it did not fall off until impact. >> until impact.
1:12 pm
>> yeah. it appeared to me it was, you know, the plane was fine. again, my initial thought was that with the nose pitched up and the degree that it was that the pilot was, you know, maybe trying to divert the landing is what it looked like to me but it was, you know, as you can see in the video, he was pretty low at that point and, you know, that may or may not have been the case. >> it's unbelievable to watch this video, fred. i'm sure you can't believe that you caught this on tape. >> yeah. it's -- you know? it's just -- you know, things happen by chance. me and the missus just happen to be out there and, you know, it was very unfortunate event. and the only thing we can say is we're just really, you know,
1:13 pm
happy that, you know, a lot of people survived because, you know, it wasn't looking good for them folks on that plane, for sure. >> when you -- let's talk a little bit about that orange dust again. does it dust or did it appear to be an explosion? because there wasn't a fire at first as you said, right? because that orange dust -- >> it was, you know, it was -- i mean, the noises that we heard sounded like a plane hitting the ground and just, you know, the sound of a plane just crashing in to the ground and we didn't hear a distinct bomb go off or anything like that. as far as i could tell, you know, it was just the plane impacting the ground and every time the wind hit or when the tail hit and then the nose hit,
1:14 pm
you know, you just heard the banging and the banging in the back. and the sound and, you know, it did echo through the bay there but it didn't sound like a bomb to me. >> yeah. producers, if we can get jim tillman on the phone i would love to get -- i would love to see what they have to say about this. in the meantime, i want to tell our viewers that we have fred hayes on the phone. fred hayes shot this video exclusively and it's exclusively running here on cnn. he was out with his wife, with the missus and recording planes coming in, observing, taking a walk. they were staying at a hotel and then all of a sudden this happens. fred, don't go anywhere. i want to continue to talk with you for a minute. can we roll this from the top? i want our viewers to see and hear.
1:15 pm
>> yeah. yeah, he does. look at that one. look how his nose is up in the air! oh my god! oh, it's an accident. >> you're filming it, too. >> oh my god. >> oh no! >> oh my god. >> you're filming it. >> oh my god. oh my god. oh my god. >> you're filming the whole thing. >> oh lord have mercy. >> right, you were, fred. lord have mercy. just in the beginning before i could even see that the plane was coming in for a landing that was going to be a crash landing, you noticed something out of the ordinary from the beginning. you said look at that one. its nose is up. looked like it was coming in low to you.
1:16 pm
fred? >> yeah. it was -- again, it was -- you know, my initial thought was that nose was up because he was trying to divert. but i also was thinking that if he had just came in normal that he was landing normal that, you know, the flight -- his position looked, you know, maybe a little lower than some of the other planes but i couldn't say that for sure. he looked like, you know, the reason he impacted is because i saw that the nose in the air and the tail was down and, you know, he just ran out of room but i think in a normal landing pattern, you know, perhaps he would have made it. but the tail section was definitely, you know, pitched down and the nose was up. you know?
1:17 pm
i don't know what degree, you know, probably 20 degrees or so. it was pitched up a little bit. and to me it looked like it was either, you know, trying to climb back up or maybe trying to get the nose up to avoid the edge of the bay there. it's kind of funny for me. that i had very similar incident at dfw once upon a time when i was flying in and the same exact thing happened. we were coming down and our plane diverted the landing right as we were about to touchdown. the tarmac. because there was another plane on our runway and my initial thought was that the tail section, that we were going to hit for sure. that absolutely it was going to hit and our pilot got us up and out of there and avoided the incident. so it just was ironic that
1:18 pm
that's -- you know, at least at that time appeared to be what happened with this, too. >> fred hayes, thank you so much. we appreciate you joining us and you're in a very busy place. go about your evening, sir. thank you. >> okay, sir. >> don lemon here in new york. this video, again, just in to cnn that you are looking at. and it is from the gentleman we just spoke to, fred hayes. this is of that flight asian flight 214 that happened yesterday afternoon. coming in to san francisco international airport. this video will no doubt be used by investigators to try to figure out exactly what caused this crash and you can see why the passengers who got off this plane and ran for safety are telling harrowing tales about the final moments before the
1:19 pm
impact and then getting off this plane. we're going to have jim tillman look at this video with us. go over it and see what he can assess from this exclusive videos here on cnn right after a short break. hi, buddy! that's why the free wifi and hot breakfast are something to smile about. book a great getaway now and feel the hamptonality the ones that let you call for help. and i said, "that's not for me! that's for some old person!" but we finally talked my mom into calling adt. then, one day, i slipped and broke my hip. the pain was terrible, and i couldn't get to the phone. i needed an ambulance, so i pushed the button. it's okay, mrs. anderson. the paramedics are on their way. it was so good to hear adt at the other end. [ male announcer ] adt home health security services. with one touch of a button, you can summon help from anywhere in your home and talk with adt's trained professionals,
1:20 pm
who can call for emergency assistance and even stay on the line until help arrives. 1 out of every 3 people over 65 will fall this year. adt helps you maintain your independence starting at just over $1 a day. call now to receive free activation and a free guide to living alone. i'm glad adt could call for help. so am i. [ male announcer ] protect your independence. call today for more information and ask about special discounts for aarp members. adt. always there.
1:21 pm
1:22 pm
yeah, he does. look how his nose is up in the air. oh my god! oh, it's an accident. >> you're filming it, too. >> oh my god. >> oh no! >> oh my god. >> you're filming it. >> oh my god. oh my god. oh my god. >> you filmed the whole thing. >> oh lord have mercy. >> as i said before, lord have mercy is right. jim tillman, an aviation expert is on the phone with me now. jim, you were on the air throughout the evening with me yesterday and now this. as you're looking at this video, what does this tell you? >> well, i mean, frankly, i have about the same response that gentleman had to actually seeing this thing develop. one of the things that strikes me is that he was a lot lower on the approach than i thought he would be at that point.
1:23 pm
just as he was moving in a way that says, okay, i'm just a little bit below but that's okay. i'm going to make it to the runway. i don't know what his thoughts were but the approach was a lot more shallow than i thought it might be and it did look like, hey, this is going to work out fine. particularly from a long range like we are right now. see, right there, looking at the -- not that unusual to see that kind of approach but it's almost flying level for a while. and then at the last second it appears that the nose seemed to come up at about the same time he was about to strike that
1:24 pm
dike. then the airplane is turning around with a severe nose down attitude and wondering if it keeps the wings level so we're not inverted. there's apparently a fair amount of skill involved in actually keeping the thing from going belly up. if that had happened, oh my goodness, this would be a different report to make today because there's surely a great deal more injuries as a result. that's remarkable footage. i'm sure you agree. it will be analyzed and do you meaned in for detail but i can tell you that it's hor rrendous. you used that term yesterday and you're right. it's horrendous.
1:25 pm
>> and now, yes, it's horrifying. and you can see why at a certain angle -- remember the initial reports saying it looked like the plane cart wheeled. trying to clarify that on the air. >> yes. >> you can see the plane, the entire -- looks like the underbelly of the plane both wings come back up off the ground. as it is skidding there. just before -- there it is. just before that orange smoke or dust. and which is probably -- you can correct me if i'm wrong. the plane skidding in to the ground. do you think that's earth coming up? >> yeah, yeah. i do. you know, i have to tell you. my feeling about flying an aircraft and accidents and that sort of thing, pilots have an instinctive thing about never stop flying it.
1:26 pm
no matter what else is going on. they're still maintaining whatever control they have. and that's why i'm saying what i am about as the aircraft is skimming across that surface there and he gets to a certain point and the airplane wants to -- right there where the airplane wants to tip over and it's my personal feeling, the mind-set of an airline pilot, particularly, we have to keep this thing belly down and whatever we have to do, we have to do that. for whatever reason, he was successful at that and that saved a lot of lives. >> tim tilmon, stand by. i want to update our viewers now. this is that plane as you can see it now on the air coming in for a landing which became a crash landing. you see it hitting the ground. the first impact on the screen.
1:27 pm
now it is skidding across the runway and tips up to the side, on its side, and then you see that orange dust which may be dirt from the plane going off the runway and in to the ground. to the grassy area. this video was shot exclusively, was shot yesterday and exclusively given to cnn by fred hayes. he said he and his wife were just out for a walk. they just happened to be videotaping, planes coming in, planes taking off at san francisco international airport. they were at a hotel out for a little sightseeing and then they came across this. i'll continue here with aviation expe expert and then we're going to go -- jim tilmon. then i want to play this tape
1:28 pm
from the beginning and hear it and jim tilmon and i will talk about it again. roll it, please. >> look at him. hmm. yeah, yeah. he does. look at that one. look at how his nose is up in the air. oh my god. it's an accident. >> you're filming it, too. >> oh my god. >> oh no. >> oh my god. >> you're filming it. >> oh my god. oh my god. oh my god. >> you filmed the whole thing. >> oh lord have mercy. >> he indeed did film the whole thing. there is a press briefing at the bottom of the hour. jim tilmon and i will talk on the other side of this very short break. weekdays are for rising to the challenge. they're the days to take care of business.
1:29 pm
when possibilities become reality. with centurylink as your trusted partner, our visionary cloud infrastructure and global broadband network free you to focus on what matters. with custom communications solutions and responsive, dedicated support, we constantly evolve to meet your needs. every day of the week. centurylink® your link to what's next.
1:31 pm
back now live on cnn, we have exclusive video of that crash landing yesterday at san francisco international airport. it was shot by a gentleman who was out walking with his wife. no doubt this will be used in the investigation. wanted to remind our viewers, as well, we are waiting for a press briefing at the bottom of the hour at any moment from the national transportation safety board. in the meantime, we'll show you the video in the entirety and i'm going to speak about it with jim tilmon, aviation expert. let's play it for you. >> look at him. hmm.
1:32 pm
yeah. yeah, he does. look at that one! look how his nose is up in the air. oh my god! oh, it's an accident! >> you're filming it, too. >> oh my god. >> oh no! >> oh my god. >> you're filming it. >> oh my god. oh my god. oh my god. >> you filmed the whole thing. >> oh lord have mercy. >> hmm. jim tilmon is an aviation expert helping us out here on cnn. jim, i wonder if they're looking at this before they come out to brief the public. and i'm just being honest about that. >> well, i imagine they're looking at everything. one of the things that appeared
1:33 pm
to me, occurred to me is that he was literally seconds from just making a normal landing and we wouldn't have this conversation. literally seconds. one of the questions left on my mind is why was he that low and that shallow on the approach? that's -- i mean, you know, the chances of his touching down early starting at some point prior to reaching the runway, much greater than they should have been simply because he was -- his trajectory was so low. it's almost as if the airpocraf was leveling off out there in the distance prior to reaching the absolute runway. you can see it there. the airplane is doing very little in the way of descenting. why aren't they getting the runway? it appears to me he had control. i mean, everything was working
1:34 pm
all right until final moment and just happens to drag the tail through that barrier. and then you can see what happened afterwards, once he lost control of the rutter or anything else and then looks like he has -- in the cockpit, there's nothing in there to tell him what has really happened. it's not an instrument on the instrument panel that says, hey, we have lost a part of the airplane or whatever else. i mean, if he looks out the window, he can't see anything like that. he doesn't know. we're seeing a whole lot more than the pilots are. >> jim tilmon, we'll go to the ntsb press conference. stand by, please. >> -- injured in the crash. i want to personally thank the 225 first responders who did an amazing job. the incident could have been much worse without their
1:35 pm
outstanding work, particularly thank the airport commission staff, police department staff, fire department staff and all of the first responders who responded on a much yule aid basis. i want to report that as of 30 minutes ago, runway 28 right is back in service. so three of the four runways are back in service. we're handling about 22 to 23 landings per hour, equivalent to our normal weather condition with low clouds, so we'll be experiencing delays but it's a more normal level of delays to experience. i want to particularly thank mayor lee for his leadership. he was here all day yesterday and again today supporting our efforts and i'd now like to turn it over to mayor lee before the ntsb reports on their efforts. mayor lee? >> thank you, john. thank you, everyone, for being
1:36 pm
here this afternoon for this update and report. as john martin said earlier, we are handing this investigation and has been taken over by the national transportation safety board, but before i do that, i just want to also give my personal thanks to the first responders. we've been listening very carefully to the doctors and the nurses reports on the various bay area hospitals this morning and clearly from the doctors' perspectives, particularly those that are treating the critically injured from the crashes of yesterday, they are very appreciative that as chaotic, as dangerous as the crash -- incident site was yesterday, they're using the words miraculous and remarkable, that the persons that were brought to them with serious injuries that are surviving very serious
1:37 pm
injuries were the result of very, very good triage work that was done at the crash site with the various transportation modes that were used to bring them directly to the hospitals. this is going to be with the injuries that they have notified us about what they're treating, they're saying that but for that triage work, that was done at the crash site, some of these victims would not have survived as they are now. i'll be going over there to sf yen this afternoon after this is over to give my own comfort to those that are still under treatment. but that is the assessment that the doctors are giving us. having said that, i also want to say that there's just quite a high number of people that have responded in addition in follow-up to the 225 first responders. united airlines and special
1:38 pm
efforts were given to them flying additional personnel in from chicago along with their partner asiana airlines and they have been treating the passengers and their friends and passengers all through the evening, this morning. and then i want to also give acknowledgment to the airport accommodations unit that has been helping other stranded passengers find their way to some comfort as the flights are canceled. in addition, i want to thank the san francisco airport eoc. i've been with them this morning. they've been up all evening assisting everyone at the airport get to a level of comfort and they've been working really hard to make sure everyone's taken care of. even though we experienced a high number of flight cancelati cancelations, they have been working at a very high level.
1:39 pm
there are as john martin said earlier the runway is now cleared on 28 right. i also want to thank the extra custodians that were brought in to work with the ntsb to clear that runway so that it can be used. but again, as chaotic as the site was yesterday, i think a number of miracles occurred to save many more lives. with that, we'll answer a few questions around this aspect of it before turning over to deborah hersman, chairman of the ntsb. >> i know they haven't cleared the other runway yet but what will happen to make sure that that particular airport is safe for aircraft to land on in what will happen? >> this is an example where we really defer to the ntsb. they have an investigative process they need to go through. they need to give us clearance that they've conducted the
1:40 pm
necessary work before items can be removed so we're going to defer to their process of investigation before we initiate efforts to reopen that final runway. >> now, can you tell us if the ils and the landing gear, were those working yesterday? >> i would tell you yesterday all the systems required were operable. were operating under clear weather conditions and using visual flight rules and all the system that is are required for runway use were fully functional yesterday. the -- >> [ inaudible ] >> the faa really determines what equipment's required to use the runway under any given situation and in this circumstance all the required systems were in use. we have an ils system of a localizer and a glide slope indicator. the localizer were utilized.
1:41 pm
>> can you say the bevy lights, were they operable yesterday? >> i don't have that information. >> would you say -- a seasoned pilot, any pilot in particular, but with the weather conditions yesterday, would any pilot have needed the extra instruments to land the plane, any plane? >> we were operating under when's called video flight rules and essentially requires planes to visually sight and report the airport. we did also have augmenting that a precision approach monitoring system, a pappy system, beyond wh what's required. at this time, i'll turn it over to the ntsb chairperson. >> thank you. on behalf of all of the board members and staff at the ntsb, we offer our condolences to those families that lost a loved
1:42 pm
one in this crash and our thoughts go out to those hospitalized for a speedy recovery. i'm here to provide our first on-scene update of the crash that occurred here at san francisco involving asiana flight 214. we had our organizational meeting this morning. we involved our parties to our investigation, those people that can provide expertise to our investigators as well as the individuals who have been working on scene since the crash occurred. we outlined the work that we intended to accomplish today and i'm going to talk to you about some of the work that's already been completed and some of the work that's in progress. first, i'd like to share with you a preliminary review or an audition of the cockpit flight recorder and the flight data recorder. yesterday, we had investigators that arrived on scene.
1:43 pm
they were able to secure the cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder. they went back to d.c. on a red eye flight last night. they were escorted by federal air marshal and met by our investigators in washington, d.c. this morning. they were taken to our lab in washington and read out. we had good data on the fdr and cdr and from a preliminary audition, i'm going to give you some high points. the cdr was a two-hour recording and of good quality. the recording began while the aircraft was in cruise flight two hours out. the flight is cleared for the visual approach to runway 28 left. this is confirmed by the crew. the aircraft was configured for
1:44 pm
approach. again, this is based on the cockpit voice recorder. the communications between the crew and the cockpit. the aircraft was configured for approach. with the flaps at 30 degrees and the gear down. the target speed for the approach was 137 knots. the approach proceeds normally as they descend. there is no discussion of any aircraft anomalies or concerns with the approach. a call from one of the crew members to increase speed was made approximately seven seconds prior to impact. the sound of the stick shaker occurs approximately four
1:45 pm
seconds prior to impact. a call to initiate a go around occurred 1.5 seconds before impact. again, what i just gave you was a brief recap of what our team in washington in our lab heard on the cockpit voice recorder when they auditioned it. now i'm going to talk to you about the flight data recorder. there are 24 hours of recorded data on the flight data recorder. there are 1,400 parameters of recorded data. this flight data recorder captured the entire flight. during the approach, the data indicate that the throttles were at idle.
1:46 pm
and air speed was slowed below the target air speed. the throttles are advanced a few seconds prior to impact and the engines appear to respond normally. again, i've just given you a brief summary of what our team found today as they auditioned first the cockpit voice recorder and then the flight data recorder. i'm going to talk to you a little bit about the 777 and give you basic facts about the aircraft. this was an asiana 777 ex or extended range. the tail number was hl-7742. as far as manufacturing, it was line number 5-53 off the line.
1:47 pm
the factory rollout was in february of 2006. and the delivery occurred approximately one month later. it is equipped with pratt and whitney pw-49 engines. it has about 36,000 hours and the aircraft has about 5,000 -- configured for 303 seats. 32 of those are -- and 271 are economy seats. boeing delivered over 1,100 777s. of the 777 200-er type, they have delivered 421 of those.
1:48 pm
of the aircraft that are equipped as 777s equipped with the pratt and whitney 4,000 series engines, that number is 169. there are 777s equipped with ge-90 series engines, there are 721 of those. and there are 777s equipped with rolls royce trent series engines. and those number -- the pratt and whitney engine entered service in june of 1995. we had our organizational meeting today. we talked about site securement since the accident. we have received excellent cooperation from san francisco airport 0 kishls with respect to securing the accident site since
1:49 pm
the accident and during the overnight hours. airport emergency operations were activated. and today they were in the process of removing any hazmat or any materials from the site that could be of risk to our investigators and responders. so they are doing that today. we have received excellent support from the fbi, both here in san francisco and from teams that have traveled from quantico. the response team is helping us document the site and teams from the field office that are here to help us, as well as hazmat experts from the fbi. we are receiving excellent support of our federal, state and local partners. we really appreciate that. we have worked very hard to get 28 right cleared and reopened
1:50 pm
today and so mayor lee, i know that you and the airport officials were glad to see that airport runway reopened. i know that this inconvenienced a lot of travelers and we respect that they have many challenges with respect to moving on and we are working to complete our work as fast as we can to get the airport back to full strength. let me tell you about some of our other groups, about the activities they're under taking. we have an operations group. they are focused really on crew and operations issues. they're going to evaluate the geography of the site, document the cockpit, the instruments, the cockpit seats, windshields. they're going to be looking at flight plans, at flight kits, at the information that the staff -- that the crew have to make decisions. the overall conditions in the aircraft and in the cockpit, how they might have evacuated.
1:51 pm
they're going to be looking very close at flight training and operations manuals, at the crew's experience. the system and the flight management computer. the cockpit configuration and there's been a lot of discussion about state and there's been a lot of discussion of stabilize approaches and we're going to be looking at that very closely. we do hope to interview the crew within the next few days. we have a power plants team and looking at the engines, they're documenting general conditions, taking a lot of photographs. they can tell through their examinations whether an engine is -- the engine was rotating at the time of the crash. they'll be looking to document that and the conditions -- any evidence that there was any fire that might have originated in the engines and there are
1:52 pm
electronic modules or devices that do record faults and looking at the health and the trending of the engines. they will likely be doing an engine tear down at pratt and whitney facilities in windsor locks, connecticut, at a later time. we have a survival factors team out on the scene. they're doing an initial site survey. they have been at this for hours today. there is an extenseive debris field they're documenting. they want to locate the four corners o. wreckage. they'll be looking through the wreckage field to identify important parts. they have documented the locations of rest of the two fatalities. they're going to be working now to document the seating positions of those who were injured.
1:53 pm
we want to identify preliminary injury patterns. and interview survivors as well as conduct cabin crew interviews. we'll look at the slides, the deployment, their use and performance in thisser eir sequ and whether child safety seats were used. when we talk about the airport, i know we have the experts with respect to airport operations behind us, but i'll just give you a brief thumbnail of what we are looking at when we're looking at runway 28 left and san francisco. there are about 1,200 operations per day, three quarters of those are commercial operations. there are two sets of intersecting runways. runways 119, left and right. and runways 10, 28 left and right.
1:54 pm
the flesh hold elevation of 28 left, you will remember the runway to focus on right now is 28 left, is 13 feet above sea level. it is 11,381 feet long. the faa this morning requested a flight test to evaluate the equipment on the runway. from a test aircraft. they were able to validate the localizer. as you all know, the glide slope was noted or issued in a notice to airmen that it would be out of service from june 1st to august 22nd. so the glide slope was out of service and there were no returns from the glide slope detected by the test aircraft. there were also path lights or
1:55 pm
presicision approach path light available to the crew but on 28 left those were significantly damaged in the crash sequence and so after the crash the asiana aircraft, they were put in a list that the lights on 28 left are out of service. that occurred postcrash. they'll be looking at all of the approach lights. they'll be documenting the runway markings, lighting and conditions and then evaluating construction activities taking place on the airport property. we are looking at emergency response. this is the postcrash response. our deployed or aircraft rescue and fire fighting operations deployed 29 responders in 9
1:56 pm
vehicles after the crash. we'll be looking to determine the effectiveness of the response, how they organized, site safety and security, how the fire was extinguished and whether or not there were rescues made, crew or passengers from inside the aircraft and with respect to the triage what took place outside of the aircraft after the passengers and crew exited. we still have with respect to the emergency response to conduct interviews with the arf operators and we are also seeking video. video fromhe airport and also video from the arf operations if they had any video on the fire trucks. we are looking to obtain that, as well. we have human performance investigator and he'll be looking at the performance of the crew. we typically do a 72-hour work rest history. we'd expect drug and alcohol
1:57 pm
testing to be done. we'd be looking at things like fatigue, medication use and sleep disorders, are human factors or human performance efforts are very extensive. we'll be looking at crew resource management or crm and this is how the crew work together, how they communicate, how they follow procedures. we'll look at crew monitoring and we'll look at coordination. the weather on the day of the accident, at the time of the accident, winds were from the southwest at 2.10. at 7 knots with 10 miles visibility. there were no reports of wind sheer or adverse conditions reported. air traffic control, they gave the crew after asiana flight a visual clearance. handling appeared routine until the controller noticed that the
1:58 pm
aircraft hit the sea wall. the controller declared an emergency. no prior distress calls or request for special support or problems were noted in the air traffic control tapes between the controller and the asiana crew. the pilots communicated with air traffic control postcrash and emergency vehicles were deployed. united is helping asiana set up family assistance center to help both the survivors as well as the families of the victims and the survivors. this is a part of our process when we launch to a major aviation accident. those efforts are coordinated by the ntsb but those services are delivered by others. united is stepping with a
1:59 pm
co-chair partner to coordinate services here locally. the korean accident investigation board and asiana personnel from korea have arr e arrived today and being integrated in to our team. i'd like to finish up my prepared remarks by saying thank you so much to all of the responders for assisting our team as we arrived on site. thank you to the mayor and thank you to the team at the airport. we really do rely on others to help us as we come in to a community new to do our job so we very much appreciate that support. i'd be happy to take questions. >> top of the hour, watching an ntsb press conference at san francisco international airport. taking questions now, deborah hersman. chairperson of the national transportation safety board.
2:00 pm
>> the question was whether or not we had the lowest speed that the crew achieved. i will tell you that the speed was significantly below 137 knots. xxxx we're not talking about a few knots. we still have to corroborate some information. as i mentioned, this was a preliminary mention of the recorders. the 137 knots came from the crew conversation about their approach speed. we have to take another look at the raw data and corroborate it with radar and air traffic information to make sure we have a very precise speed. but again, we are not talking about a few knots here or there. we're talking about a significant amount of speed below 137.
191 Views
IN COLLECTIONS
CNN (San Francisco) Television Archive Television Archive News Search Service The Chin Grimes TV News ArchiveUploaded by TV Archive on