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there is an explosion, but according to the people on the ground there wasn't. what you're seeing is dirt from the plane skidding off the runway into that dirt. it is the top of the hour, everyone. everyone. you're in the cnn newsroom. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com i'm don lemon. the passenger jet that crashed and burned on landing yesterday was going way too slow and flying way too low. this is showing the asiana split. it smashed into the runway, broke into pieces killing two of the more than 300 people onboard that plane. i want you to listen to what the ntsb boss said they learned from the cockpit recordings. >> a call from one of the crew members to increase speed was made approximately seven seconds
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prior to impact. during the approach, the data indicate that the throttles were at idle and air speed was slowed below the target air speed. >> the number from the people onboard, 182 rushed to the hospital around the city. rushed to hospitals around the city. six are in critical condition. two passengers who were on the plane died, but amazingly more than 100 people walked away without a scratch. i want you to see and hear the video that fred hayes shot yesterday. he has no idea he is about to witness a disaster. watch and listen. >> look at him. yeah, he does.
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look at that one. look how is nose is up in the air. oh, my god. oh, it's an accident. >> you're filming it, too. oh, no! >> oh, my god! >> oh, my god. you're filming it. >> what happened? >> oh, my god! oh, my god! oh, my god. >> you filmed the whole thing. >> oh, lord have mercy. oh, my god. >> lord have mercy is right. a few minutes ago i talked to fred hayes on the phone. >> you know, i was like, look at that guy. his nose is pretty high. it was one of those things where it appeared to me that the pilot was trying to converse the
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landing. it's surreal. my wife ginna took it hard. we all did. it was a tragedy. our initial reaction was that everybody on the plane was in bad shape. we're just real why i happy that it was minimal, you now, and not everybody on the plane lost their life. >> let's get the very latest on the investigation now. straight to cnn's dan simon at san francisco international airport. an ntsb update gave us plenty of new information last hour, dan. what new information are we learning now? >> we got a lot of new information and we want to be precise in terms of how we talk about it. the bottom line is is that crew knew there was going to be a lot of trouble just seconds before the crash. crews were able to get all this
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information from the flight data recorder and the cockpit voice recorder. let's talk about some of the highlights. we know seven seconds before the crash there was a call for an increase in speed, which means that the pilot knew that the aircraft was not going fast enough to make a successful landing. six seconds before the impact, they had what you call a stick shaker, which means the aircraft was in danger of stalling. if the aircraft stalls, you don't get any lift and you're really going to have an enormous problem. 1 1/2 seconds before impact, the pilot calls to initiate, quote, a go around. what that means is they knew there was going to be trouble. they wanted to abort the landing, make the airplane go up, if you will, and then make another circle to the runway and then try to land the plane once again. the question was asked to the ntsb chairperson if this
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suggests there was some sort of pilot error. we want to make it very clear at this point the ntsb is not drawing any conclusions, at least publically, based upon the information they got. they say all things at this point are on the table, but of course pilot error is going to be one thing they are going to be looking at very closely. >> dan simon, thank you very much. we are going to talk to a pilot now. dan rose is here with us, former military pilot, private pilot now and aviation attorney. can we go over the points the ntsb chairwoman said the aircraft was figured in her approach, communications between the crew and cockpit. the speed of the approach 137 knots. when questioned later she said it was significantly below that. she said we are not just talking about a few knots, but significantly below that. approach she said proceeds normally as a descent. no discussion of any aircraft
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anomalies or concerns with the approach. a call from a crew member to increase speed was made approximately seven seconds prior to impact. >> that's troubling. even the call itself is actually troubling to increase speed. it should be to increase power. increase speed arguably could be pushing the nose down even further. in that situation would be a problem. it's troubling that they're waiting till that very late point to even address the speed. that is something that should be addressed at 500 feet. certainly any time below that, any time you get a call that the speed is not the target speed which is that 137 knot speed deborah hersman referenced, you need immediate action. it can't deviate more than five knots, really. >> here is the sound of the stick shaker occurs four seconds prior to impact.
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>> that is just the ultimate clue that there is something gone terribly wrong here. it requires immediate reaction and the reaction has to be full power and try to get the plane away from the ground. >> explain to the viewers stick shaker. what does that mean? >> you see the control yoke which is similar to the steering wheel. in this case assuming target speed was 137 knots at about 120 or so or 125 knots, that's already too slow for this approach, the system would start shaking. literally start shaking the control wheel so that there is no way the pilot does not know that he's dangerously slow. the immediate reaction upon that is full power. >> is it fair to say if that happens, if that starts to shake that you are neigh trouble or about to be? >> you're about to be. it's a warning system that says you're coming dangerously slow to too slow an air speed where
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the plane is going to start falling out of the sky. >> it says, according to the flight data recorder which captured the entire flight, it says during the approach the data indicated, indicates that the throttles were idle and air speed was slowed before the target air speed. it was slowed, did they slow down initially? is that what she means? >> she means the power was all the way back. the idle. you're in your car and you don't touch the accelerator. you need more power. he's hoping to try to make the runway or not processing the fact he can't make it under this situation. instead of adding power to make sure he gets to the runway, he's slowly pulling up the nose of the aircraft which is what the witness reported seeing and the video shows. what he is trying to do there is stretch it to get to the runway which is completely the wrong thing to do.
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why he did that, if it's just a piloting issue or there were systems onboard the plane that may have contributed to confusion. there is a system called auto throttles which is supposed to work the throttles for you. it has limitations. if you're below 400, 500 feet, the power of the auto throttles is not going to come on automatically like he may have expected that may have contributed. he needed power and didn't put it on. >> dan rose, stick around. thank you very much. we'll be back. more than 300 people survived the catastrophic crash. some walked away unharmed while 182 were taken to hospitals. the most critical are at san francisco general hospital, the only level 1 trauma center. that's where we find keung law.
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>> reporter: we are expecting to get the latest update from the hospital. the most seriously injured were brought here. they did admit 19 patients. last word we heard there were six critical. one a child. some of the things we are concerned about, head trauma as two patient whose appeared to have spinal injuries that led to some paralysis. we've been hearing from patients and survivors throughout the day matching very much what you've been hearing from aviation experts, from the people from that extraordinary video that shows the exact moment of impact. one man we spoke to says he looked out the window. he saw water. they knew they were going to crash and he thought, "i am going to die." here is what he told us. >> i looked out.
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through the window and i knew something was wrong. that's because we were too low. i've been through that situation so many times so i know where we are supposed to be at. we were approaching to runway. at one point i felt this is not right. that's because i see water right there. right there. right outside the window. i should not. i knew. i knew it was going to happen. i tried to hold on whatever i could. i hear the noise, the pilot try to send as much power as he could. try to lift the plane back up but didn't work.
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>> rah has flown asiana airlines 173 times, to be exact. he has a picture of his boarding pass showing how many times he has flown on asiana. i says after all this, he doesn't know if he could ever step on to a plane again. >> kyung lah, we appreciate that. we were listening to the gentleman there. could there be a communication problem issues here? >> there certainly could be. i think that's one of the things that the ntsb is going to look at closely is perhaps the lack of communication. you have a pilot and co-pilot and they are cross checking each other to make sure the plane is progressing safely. if you have a situation where the co-pilot is afraid to point
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out something is not going right to the very end, that is a problem. >> you are a current pilot. you're an aviation attorney. the reason is in different cultures you don't question the lead person. >> it came out of the korean airlines crash in guam. the issue was the first officer not because of the cultural background feeling intimidated by the pilot. it's not just a cultural aspect in terms of koreans or asians. we had the same problem here in the u.s. we spent a lot of time focusing on being able to challenge the captain, leadership of the cockpit to make sure he's doing the right thing and the plane is progressing safely. >> great question, great perspective as an aviation attorney. stand by good. to have you here sitting on the step with me helping me through, guiding me through this
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coverage. the flames are still burning and the death toll is expected to rise in the small canadian town where a run away train exploded. a news conference was just held by investigators. those 19 fallen arizona firefighters make a solemn return home. it's your most important videoconference of the day. hi! hi, buddy! that's why the free wifi and hot breakfast are something to smile about. book a great getaway now and feel the hamptonality
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an unmanned train broke three, rolled seven miles down a hill and derailed and exploded yesterday. flames from the burning car spread to a small canadian town near the maine border. five people were killed in the inferno, but that number could rise. jason carroll has been looking into this accident. >> they are looking for the locomotive event recorder. if they find that, that will help get more information. the coroner there on the ground at the scene says there is a possibility that some people may have been vaporized because of the intensity of the explosion. canada's prime minister spoke not too long ago. he described the aftermath as looking somewhat like a war zone. emergency officials are expecting more deaths as workers manage to get into the worst areas affected. the devastate began unfolding
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saturday morning when a train transporting 70 tankers of crude oil slipped downhill and derailed in the town in quebec province. this triggered a series of large explosions. at least 30 buildings were engulfed in flames. authorities evacuated more than 2,000 people. many remain missing. witnesses on the ground are trying to come to terms with all that has happened in their small town. >> the last explosion was the biggest. this one, i saw the fire and went 300 feet high. >> people saying they were running into street, trying to avoid the fire, jumping in the lake. you can see it in hollywood movies. this is terrible, terrible. >> translator: i have no news from my friend. i haven't heard from any of them. i can't say more than that. we are waiting for confirmation. we are waiting. >> some in the town are calling
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it the runaway train after montreal mid-atlantic railway noted the train had been locked down a locomotive engineer. the engineer left for a crew train. soon after the train rolled into town it rolled in unmanned. the company released a statement saying we extend heartfelt condolences to the residents who lost their homes and businesses, and particularly those who suffered injuries and lost loved ones. mma will cooperate with the government safety agencies in trying to determine a cause. emergency workers recovered five bodies so far. also an estimated 40 people don are still unaccounted for. >> you mentioned you said some of them may have been vaporized. do you know when investigators will get a handle how they can figure out who is missing and what's going on there? >> i think it's going to depend and be determined how soon they can get to some of the areas you're seeing in that video. as you can see, two of the five
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cars that derailed are still smolders, still very hot, still too dangerous for investigators to get in there and see what's down in that area. i should also tell you that in this particular part of the town where these trains derailed and the explosions occurred, apparently from what we are hearing from witnesses on the ground, there are a lot of people who were in bars and restaurants in that area. because of the extent of the explosion, emergency officials are saying it's likely some of those people got caught up in that explosion. this is a small town. some 6,000 people live there it's one of those towns where everyone seems to know each other. when people there say, look, my cousin is missing, my sister, my friend is missing, that's why investigators are taking this so very seriously.
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>> it's an unbelievable story. jason carroll, thank you so much. today a road trip breaking hearts across arizona and the nation. procession of 19 hearses with 19 flags traveled on the journey more than 90 miles. it is a tribute to the arizona firefighters trapped in a wildfire last sunday, the deadly event for firefighters since 9/11. the 19 men were part of a specialized force called the granite mountain hot shots. their procession went from phoenix where the bodies were taken to prescott, the men's home base. upheaval in egypt. the president is ousted by his army, but is the united states taking the right position? $ymp0&0xjp#çr5
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this is just into cnn. the wife of the secretary of state john kerry is ill. an ambulance took creasa heinz kerry to the hospital this afternoon from the couple's home in nantucket, massachusetts. this is coming from a source close to the kerry family. no word on what caused her illness. we will update you on cnn as soon as we get that. let's get to san francisco general hospital in san francisco news conference
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happening now. >> good afternoon, everybody. i indicated earlier at the airport i wanted to come down and visit. if anything, to thank the hospital administration, the doctors, the surgeons, i'm here with barbara garcia, director of public health and her wonderful staff. i had a chance to talk with a couple of the surgeons and personally thank them. they were working very hard, but they also felt the pulse of san francisco the bay area. they said there were droves of volunteers that forged in here when they heard the news of the airplane crash incident that occurred. they knew there was going to be a lot of patients coming here to sf general. this is one of the best hospitals you'll ever find in our country. i want to just thank all the people here on behalf of san francisco government and the people. had a chance to not just say thank you to the doctors, but to the nurses, to the administrators, to the emergency
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staff. all of them work as a very strong team. many of them are here again this morning coming in early to see what they can do with these critical patients as well as those that are recovering from their serious injuries. it's remarkable. i repeat what i think the surgeon chief said yesterday that but for the triage that occurred immediately on the crash site itself, bringing these folks over here to sf general and to the over 11 other different hospitals, we wouldn't see these miracles happening with survivor rates as we are seeing today. the consul general of korea, the consul general offices of china, as well as the officers from asiana and united airlines are all here helping out with the volunteers, helping out with the social workers at the hospital and through our public health department to give comfort and
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to help with the transition. i had a chance to talk with a couple, about three of the kids that are recovering and they are, i didn't want to ask them about anything that happened on the airplane because i think they are still experiencing a level of trauma, but they smiled, at least. they seem to be glad to be here in san francisco and they are getting the best service that we can possibly provide. i also had a chance to talk with a couple of the adults. there are still questions about calling back to shanghai and getting a connection for them. they lost everything from clothes to their telephones. the staff here is helping them make that connection as we speak because it was too early a fewer hours ago to call back to shanghai. now is the appropriate time to make that call to get hold of their family back in shanghai. someone can answer the phone there in the wee hours of the
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morning and they are awakening hopefully to a call from a family connection they have wanted to hear from all these hours. these are the stories that will come out the next few days as we get all of the patients a little more stabilized. as rachel said earlier, she will give you updates as they occur. i am just so happy to see so much of our life-saving expertise at work on an hourly basis here at the hospital. i'm sure this story repeats itself with all the other hospitals whether they are at st. francis or down at stanford. this incredible reaction of volunteers and doctors and surgeons coming to save these people's lives and to prolong and make sure that they are adjusting properly. as we said at the airport, not much i can say at this time because the national transportation safety board has
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taken over the investigation. all of the agencies including police and fire and airport emergency staff are now cooperating with them as they go through in minute detail every aspect of this incident and make sure they cover all the grounds from the way it happened to what occurred on the crash site itself and saving lives all the way up to now. so i appreciate your patience in the media. i know there are still a lot of questions to be asked about everything from the systems and the travel, the airlines, chairperson, deborah hersman will continue having her conferences to advise on all the details of that. i'll take a few questions at this time. [ question inaudible ] >> i don't have any information with respect to that particular
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description. i will say that all incidents that happen on the crash site itself are being reviewed. they have a particular section that ms. hersman described a survivor assessment that will take into analysis every truck that was on the scene, what occurred on the site, where they found fatalities outside as well as how people got out of the airplane. all of that will be assessed. i do not have any details about what you just mentioned. >> has anybody mentioned that to you? >> there were talk about it, but it wasn't verified. i would suggest to you that both the fire chief, the coroner's office and of course the chairperson of the ntsb would have more direct information about that. [ question inaudible ]
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>> again, there are reports that suggested when the back of the airplane opened up, there could have been people thrown out of that aspect of the airplane. we just don't know the details of it. again, we are going to ask everybody for their patience as all these details come to light. we are not going to second guess any of the investigation. there are so many agencies whose notes and reports have to be compared and collaborated. they also have to be collaborated with the coroner's report about how death might have occurred on each of the fatalities, as well. as any reports that come out of this hospital and the other hospitals. [ question inaudible ] >> there are a lot of reports that were given to me. some substantiated, some not. i cannot go into detail of that
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because they are unsubstantiated. when we were out at the crash site yesterday potentially looking for additional bodies, we had all kinds of speculative quarter sayings that were going on. everybody was patient to say we have to wait for all these reports. yesterday when we were on the site, my personal concern was whether or not we had still passengers that were not accounted for at the time. i was very nervous about whether or not we would find additional evidence as we comb the fuselage of the airplane. that was really on my mind as everybody else was talking about what they were observing. i will say this. it was very, very hectic. very emergency mode at the crash site minutes after the airport came to rest and there was smoke inhalation and people were coming out of the fuselage as fast as they could. i also observed that the
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emergency chutes were only evidenced on one side of the airplane. i think people had to literally jump out of the other side of the airplane. there's just a lot of confusion. i know what was on the mind of the emergency responders that were arriving that they had to get triage to those already injured on the ground, as many as they could see. they also had to prevent possible explosion of smoke and fire that they were evident coming out of the airplane. that's all i could verify. [ question inaudible ] >> you have to ask the firefighters and first responders for that. there was a lot of smoke at the site. thank you very much. >> thank you, all. any other questions about the hospital patients?
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>> i don't have an age range for the children. all of the children are under 18. there are some teenagers, some not teenagers. there is a mix. hang on. i can't hear you both. [ question inaudible ] >> it's a girl. i don't have anything new on that. i don't know that either. i'm sorry. i don't have anything much more than this morning. i'm just trying to be consistent with giving information. this will be it for today. >> okay. giving updates at the hospital. are you see they were basically updating what's going on now. talking about reuniting patients with family members and what have you. the mayor there edwin lee
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thanking everyone for such a coordinated, in his estimation, response here. the former inspector general of u.s. department of transportation has been sitting right here with me watching this press conference looking at that exclusive video into cnn of the moment that plane crashed at san francisco international airport. ma mary is with me. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] the ready-for-anything chevrolet sonic chevrolet. find new roads. [ male announcer ] the ready-for-anything chevrolet sonic
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we continue with our coverage of the crash of flight 214. we have new video of the asiana flight, its final seconds. i want you to watch this. >> oh, my god. >> oh, no. >> oh, my god. >> you're filming it. >> oh, my god. oh, my god. oh, my god. >> you filmed the whole thing. >> oh, lord have mercy. >> fred hayes was just taking video of planes taking off and landing yesterday when the boeing 777 hit the ground, nearly flipped over and started burning. i want you to listen to the head of the ntsb today. she says the cockpit recorder gives no indication anything was going wrong. >> the approach proceeds
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normally as they descend. there is no discussion of any aircraft anomalies or concerns with the approach. a call from one of the crew members to increase speed was made approximately seven seconds prior to impact. the sound of the stick shaker occurs approximately four seconds prior to impact. a call to initiate a go-around occurred 1.5 seconds before impact. >> right now, two priorities. first, the survivors who are injured. 182 people were rushed to hospitals around the city. six of those survivors are in critical condition. two teenagers who were on the plane died, but amazingly more than 100 people walked away from
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this crash. priority two is what happened? what caused this asiana airlines 777 to slam into the ground? break into pieces and catch fire? the flight data recorders are now in the hands of the right people, as you heard from the chairwoman of the ntsb. they've got a million questions to answer. their investigation might take a long time but it begins today. that video will no doubt help investigators answer some key questions, what happened? mary schiavo is here. the u.s. department of transportation. she is here. i saw you listening. to miss hersman and watching that video and you looked very troubled. >> i was because there were so many things that could have saved it. first and foremost is the air speed. air speed is the airman's friend and the air speed was deteriorating. there have been so many recent accidents where the pilot did
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not stay on top of the air speed and it deteriorated leading to disaster, such as the flight from rio to paris on air france. the flight up in buffalo. that air speed has to be monitored closely. to see it deteriorating that close to a landing is very troubling. that's why the black boxes are so very important to provide that data. >> when you heard her say, when she mentioned the knots, you said, mmm. the stick shaker another sigh because? >> the fact that the stick shaker activated is a very important clue. that means that the air speed had continued to deteriorate. they hadn't increased it. at that point so close to the ground, you don't have a lot of options. ordinarily the stick shaker goes off with a stick pusher and you put the nose down to get your air speed up. you can't do it that close to the ground. they really had to increase the power, increase the air speed and they had so few seconds it was almost impossible to do
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that. seven seconds out they could have, but 1.5 seconds or just before they hit the wall, they were out of time. >> they were out of time. stand by. this is new into cnn. new pictures. look at this with me. this is from the national transportation safety board inside the aircraft. look at that. what do you make of that? >> two things. this scene couldn't have happened 15 years ago because newer aircraft and the 777 is one of the newest and had a perfect record almost until this. the g-7 force was strengthened. they can withstand greater g-forces. if seats collapse on top of each other there are more casualties and injuries. the fact most of the seats held is a very, very good sign. and the fact the interior wasn't burned means that so many people were able to live. but cabin survivability has been a big push in the united states by the ntsb and faa.
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they want to get people to survive a crash. this one was survivable. >> all right. these are new pictures into cnn from the national transportation safety board. do we have another? there we go. the outside of the aircraft. >> the outside of the aircraft because so much burning took place after persons got off, it looks so very familiar to another case i worked on which was the case of air france making the runway overshoot in toronto. just as here, the passengers were able to get off. they got off the plane. after they were off the plane burned entirely. that 90-second requirement to get everyone off that plane saves so very many lives. some of the newer planes, not the 777, but some planes they say we can model this. we don't have to be so stringent. you have to get people off in 1.5 minutes with some of the doors malfunctioned and debris thrown around the cabin. when they do the test, they have to throw suitcases.
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they use dummy to signify children or babies, get pillows and blankets. it's that kind of requirement, those regulations saved lives. they certainly did here and several recent accidents. >> we saw one photo with deborah hersman the chairwoman for the national transportation safety board. those are great pictures. look at that. there is the landing gear, part of the landing gear. >> that is very telling, too. that shows the impact it hit. once they hit that sea wall there was no opportunity to go around. once they had an impact, the air speed deteriorated so much. putting if power, calling for a go round that close to impact wouldn't do anything. to hit that hard that the gear would come off is a very significant blow. there would at that point be no way to do a go round. >> then the top of the plane as we saw burned. it didn't appear to be an explosion. many people think was an explosion. that's dirt.
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>> right. >> why did it burn afterwards? >> because it caught fire like any debris. there are parts of the plane still to this day, planes are flamable. materials in the plane evidence are burning. they will catch fire. they have made some efforts on the newer planes. 777 is one of the newest to make the interiors less flammable, the seats, the floor coverings, the wall coverings. again to save lives. the plane itself will burn. even metal will at certain temperatures. >> did you see it tipping up? that is what some people may have thought was a cartwheel. many people thought the plane cartwheeled. you see the edge of the runway, right? it's highlighted. there is a jetty, something that goes out. the edge of the runway is right there. then that plane comes down.
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very close to that other united airlines flight. then here is a tipping. >> you can see it clearly on this video. the fortunate thing is it tipped but settled back down on the belly of the plane. everyone will remember the accident in sioux city where it came to land. i was a different situation. that plane did heart wheel. half the persons lost their lives. here it tipped then settled back on the belly, giving people the opportunity to get out of that plane. that was fortunate it did not go ahead and cartwheel over. >> we have the former inspector general from the u.s. department of transportation here. exclusive video of this crash landing and new pictures of the exterior and intier dwror of
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th interior of that airplane. there is upheaval in egypt to speak of. the united states government staying neutral as the president is ousted by his army. is that the right position for us to take? dad. how did you get here? i don't know. [ speaking in russian ] look, look, look... you probably want to get away as much as we do. with priceline express deals, you can get a fabulous hotel without bidding. think of the rubles you'll save. with one touch, fun in the sun. i like fun. well, that went exactly as i planned.. really? now save up to 60% during summer hotel sale. use code "summer" on priceline's.
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egypt is in chaos. state television reports the interim government has named a prime minister. mohamed morsi supporters showed up in full force rallying outside the building where he is reportedly being held. the u.s. is staying strategically about who should be egypt's next leader. they give $1 billion in aid every year. some say that should come with specific expectations. here is arizona senator john mccain.
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we have to make it clear their transition is a democratic government. for us to support coup is is a lesson we should have learned a long time ago. good to see both of you. >> good to see you, too. >> anna, do you agree with senator mccain? >> i agree with senator mccain and i agree with president obama we should remain neutral. egyptians get to choose who they have as government. we get to choose who we give aid to. it is not an entitlement and should come with strings attached. it should come with strings attached of asking it and making it conditional to good governance, democrat
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governments, respect of minorities, women, christians. $1.5 billion is not chump change. senator mccaines right. the other thing we have to do is stop pussy-footing around what happens in egypt. if it looks like a coup, swims like a coup, quacks like a coup, it's a coup. it's time to suspend that aid until there is good governance in egypt. >> maria, most people would say anna has a point there. do you think president obama should be doing something differently about egypt? >> well, i do think that we should remain neutral. this is not our decision to make. this is up to the 30 million egyptians who have gone to the streets to talk about how they want real representative government. in terms of the aid though, i think we need to be careful to say that we want to take away
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all of the aid from a country where we have a lot of interest in terms of balance in the region. if we take away all the aid tomorrow, we have no leverage. anna is right. we should condition that aid on making sure egypt is moving in the right direction and egypt's leaders are moving toward essentially that representative government that morsi was not able to give them. if we take away that aid tomorrow, that's it. our influence is gone. we have limited influence in the region. we need to use what we have. that aid is part of that. >> i want to switch gears and talk about texas governor rick perry. says he might run for president again. anna, do you think a perry run for president is a good idea for the republican party? 30 seconds left to get both of you in here. >> there are three reasons he shouldn't run. number one, he already did it.
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blew through a lot of money and didn't win a single primary. there is a whole new batch of republicans coming along who the base likes. number three, oops, i can't remember number three. >> i was going to say the same joke. >> very good. >> i was going to use that exact same joke. now i'm going to go with the following. if anthony weiner is now leading the race to be mayor of the new york, anything is possible. what i would tell rick perry is keep taking his ginko and brain training if he is thinking about doing this. >> all righty. thank you. short because of the breaking news. >> thank you. we have been watching this gripping new video that shows
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>> she wants to fix local government one smart phone app at a time. >> this saturday, 2:30 eastern on the "next list." top of the hour, i'm don lemon. you're in the cnn newsroom. the passenger jet that crashed yesterday was going way too slow and flying way too low. that's what federal officials say at this stage of the investigation. you'll hear that in a moment. first i want you to watch this video. it's exclusive to cnn of the asiana airlines 777, the moment when something went very wrong. >> look how his nose is up in the air. oh, my god, it's an accident. >> you're filming it, too. oh, no! >> oh, my god. >> oh, my god, you're filming it. >> what