carrying crude oil smalls into a town and exploded. we're learning more about the pilot, that's the asiana plane that crash landed. this was in san francisco over the weekend. new questions about what killed one of those two teens. we have this from ntsb. this is video from inside the plane. it shows mangled rows of seat. you can see the debris. this is scattered along the runway, including a part of a wing. the plane was coming in too low and too slow. the back end struck the seawall. that's at the end of the runway severing the tail. sent the plane skidding on its belly. dan simon is at the san francisco airport. we're learning more and more

about the pilot had only 43 hours of experience on this plane. do we believe the investigators think this lack of experience flying this particular aircraft had something to do with the crash? >> reporter: the bottom line is we don't know. one would think based upon what we have seen from the data recorders is they will be looking at pilot error very closely. let me tell you about this press conference. we'll be hearing from first responders, police officers and firefighters who responded to that scene in the minutes after this crash occurred. by all accounts they we are formed heroically rescuing these victims, but there's something uncomfortable that they my discuss. there's some speculation that one of the firefighters emergency vehicles may have run

over one of the victims, one of the two teenage girls who died. we're learning that they were alerted by the fire department that one of the vehicles may have run over this girl. questions such oz this will come up at this news conference. the coroner says they have to perform an autopsy to determine definitively whether or not she died from this vehicle or died from the crash itself. meanwhile the investigation rolls on in terms of what happened with this plane crash. we know this plane was coming in at a low rate of speed. they needed to rev the engines up second s before the crash occurred. four seconds before the crash occurred they were in danger of installing and seconds before they tried to abort the landing. >> we're looking at those dramatic pictures.

wooil get more information on the first responders in the moments and hours after the plane crash. investigators have done a preliminary review. this is of the cockpit voice. this is from the airplane. we get a second by second look at what investigators have already learned from those crash tapes. watch. >> look at that one. look at how its nose is up in the air. >> reporter: from the ground many eyewitnesss knew this was no ordinary landing. >> air traffic control gave the crew at the asiana flight a visual clearance. >> you see the plane coming in from the right side approximately where the end of the runway is. you can see how low this plane below the glide slope. you can see it's not even going to make it to the runway. >> a call from one of the crew members to increase speed was made approximately seven seconds prior to impact. the speed was significantly

below 137 knots and we're not talking about a few knots. >> the nose starts coming up. he obviously knows he's below and going to end up short of that runway. he pulls the nose up which is the wrong thing to do. what that did is slow the aircraft down even more. >> the stick shaker occurs approximately four seconds prior to impact. >> the stick shaker is a system on the plane that gives a warning to the pilot that you're going too slow. >> there was call out for a goer around from one of the crew at 1.5 seconds prior to impact. that means they want to not land but apply power and go around and try to land again. >> the go around call was useless. at that point it was a done deal. they were already committed to a

horrific outcome. >> reporter: most of the passenger and crew walks away from the crash. >> if the plane was a few feet lower when it hit the seawall i think we would be looking at a much more tragic result. >> they are holding a press conference. let's listen in. >> the amount of team work displayed to be able to attend to what we needed to do on saturday. we had great assistance from san mateo county. they were part of our response and a large reason why 123 people walked away from this airline crash on saturday. i'd like to acknowledge nose at the airport we worked with. this is something we trained for and thank goodness for our training. it's not something many people would see in their careers. i want to provide the opportunity to have our first

responders, true heroes, people that went on to the plane to assist the passengers off in a very chaotic circumstance. the organizalization structure to address what we had to deal with on saturday. the other thing i wanted to let you know is there's been information to suggest one of our fire apparatus may have come into contact with one of the two victims that were pronounced deceased at the scene. we're working closely with the ntsb as they conduct their investigation on all aspects. as i said on saturday our hearts go out to those that suffered

losses. phenomenal work by san francisco general. they had 53 patients transported. as of yesterday there was 19 still in the hospital. i think a few have been discharged. the team work displayed. people coming in off duty, helping. everyone rose to the occasion. i couldn't be prouder of the members of my department for the display and their professionalism and the training that they did to basically save many, many lives. with that i'd like to now introduce the assistant chief. he works in san francisco overseeing division three. once we knew what we had our three stations here were quickly overwhelmed. we had resources come down, approximately 110 of our members come down from san francisco and the incident commanders of the innocent assistance tom will give you an overview of how he

set up the response. thank you. >> good morning. i'm tom is siragusa. i'm an assistant chief of the san francisco firefighter. about 11:35 i was working at station seven in our mission district as the chief said. resources from the city proper are dispatched down here. we were dispatched by our communication center and provided information in a first response. assistance to what was indicated as a plane crash. people on the plane were exiting via the chutes. we respond down here for incidents and drills and feel like we have a very good working

relationship training wise. san francisco fire county department that people were still trapped on the plane. i did not have any indication there was a fire involved. i understood there was an incident that took place. that kiep of an exit was taking place off the plane. i noticed a column of smoke c e coming from the airport proper. it was more of a light haze. i requested from our communication center if they had any information to bring in fire and at that point the information had not been passed on. based on the fact i did see a column of smoke, i raised the

response level to a second alarm and we declared a yellow alert. what that means is we're putting hospitals on notice that there's a potential for them perceiving victims. when i got to north field access came off the freeway heading left on to the airport proper. conditions began to rapidly change. i now had a significant column of smoke coming from the airplane itself and i will save you, with all of the training that the chief mentioned the preparation, the expectations for what we do on daily basis this is not something that i expected to ever view in any career. as i approached the airplane as my initial report was to the

communication center. people are exiting the plane and the collection point had been established. at that point i raised it to a third alarm and declared a red alert. we do have victims and the hospitals need to be notified of the higher level. as i arrived on the scene, quickly got into unified command with and i want to acknowledge the response to the san mateo fire departments. specifically the chief. we were joined at the hip. captain anthony robinson was the commander. we quickly got into a unified command. i will tell you that i have never responded to a commercial airplane being down and being involved. i would venture to say nobody on

the scene had participated in an event like this. however, when you go back to the ground work of what we are trained to do, some of the higher level of expectations when it comes to being an instant commander, i went through the checklist. that included what the priorities were and based on the information that we had people still trapped on the plane, we were in a life mode, life priority to get onto that plane and being a rescue operation. number two, we needed to exti e extinguish the fire and the tarmac for potential victims. on the outside of the plane rescue fire fights equipment was dealing with the exterior of the plane applying foam. firefighters from san francisco along with members of the san francisco international airport were doing something that many

people might think and i'm telling you it's above and beyond the expectation that firefighters would enter a plane that's involved in fire. one of the things i haven't heard very much talk about is they're on the plane involved with fire and in those wings of that plane is jet fuel. jet fuel is leaking out and our firefighters under the direction of anthony robinson entered the plane, began a primary search and began to extinguish fire. we have jet fuel that's leaking off. we're dealing with those objectives. the other objective was dealing with the mass casualty in place and the rescue captain was assigned to begin the roles. i assigned captain along with san mateo fire department crews

for any potential victims on the tarmac. also information we may have had victims in the water. along those lines we had sates on the water. >> you've been listening to the fire department explaining the asiana flight that happened over the weekend. you're seeing cnn exclusive pictures of that plane crash. obviously he's trying to explain what led up to the series of events talks about this was something that he and many other firefighters had not experienced before. a fire that was taking place live on plane from a commercial airliner. they had to deal with the secret fuel around the wings and how the search for those that survived, rescue to get them out of scene.

we'll be playing close attention to new details that we're learning. we've been hear handgun, this is some of the people who knew george zimmerman the best. we're talking about a co-worker and his closest friend. we have more coverage of zimmerman's second-degree murder trial. that's up next as well. to angie's listnd i aml for bringing us together. find out why more than two million members count on angie's list. angie's list -- reviews you can trust. thto fight chronic. osteoarthritis pain. to fight chronic low back pain. to take action. to take the next step. today, you will know you did something for your pain. cymbalta can help. cymbalta is a pain reliever fda-approved to manage chronic musculoskeletal pain. one non-narcotic pill a day, every day, can help reduce this pain. tell your doctor right away if your mood worsens, you have unusual changes in mood or behavior or thoughts of suicide.

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in egypt they are calling today bloody monday. at least 51 people have been killed. hundreds more wounded. this is when troops opened fire on supporters of the opposed president morsi. they have been demonstrating since arrest last wednesday. you have morsi supporters who are saying they are praying, holding peaceful protests and the egyptian military says security forces were attacked and they had to respond. whose at fault?

what's going on? >> reporter: there really are two sides to this story and it's difficult to sort it out. we were able to speak to someone who lives in flat overlooking the area where this incident took place. she told us she was woken up at 3:42 in the morning by loud bangs in the street. it's not altogether clear who started what. as you said the muslim brotherhood or morsi supporters are claiming that the army and the police who were outside the republican guard headquarters opened fire without warning on them. the army and the police are saying and we heard this on a live press conference on egyptian tv that in fact they came under fire. we do know that some of the supporters of the desuppoposed egyptian president do have weapons. it's really hard to say but

certainly this really does represent an incident that many people here find very disturbing. it's the most violent single incident since the fall the of mubarak in february 2011. it's clouded the euphoria that followed the dismissal of morsi. many people thought that was the end of this story. it seems to be just the beginning. >> do we have any idea on where morsi might be? is he still detained in the headquarters? >> reporter: well, we understand he's in the social club or the officers club of the republican guard headquarters and remains very much under lock and key. there's no indication what eventually is going to be done with the deposed president. we understand the egyptian authorities are investigating any possible criminal activity.

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looking at live pictures there. any moment now testimony will resume. we'll take it to you live. they're going to get back from their lunch break. the jurors not yet in the courtroom. we have seen the judge as well as the attorneys. i want to dissect what we saw. zimmerman's defense attorney called his best friend, the best friend's wife and former colleagues to testify on george

zimmerman's behalf. all these witnesses were asked to listen to that cry for help that was on the 911 call. that tape, the night that trayvon martin was shot. who was that that was screaming, that was crying on that call? they all insist it was george zimmerman. >> do you know whose voice that is in the background scream something. >> it was george. >> how is it that you know that? >> i just hear him screaming. >> i talked to him probably as much on the phone or had before this incident as i did in person. hearing his voice over a recording your tone is a little different. it sounded like george. >> whose voice is that and let me premise it this? we know we hear someone in the

fore ground. could you hear the noise with the yelling in the background? >> yes. >> could you identify whose voice that was? >> george's. >> how do you know that? >> i recognize his voice. i've heard him speak many times. i have no doubt in my mind that's his voice. >> i want to bring in our legal analyst to talk more about this. former prosecutor sunny hostin and mark nejame in sanford, florida. we're watching live testimony of this. i want to talk a bit about john donnelly. it was a little confusing here. this is a guy who said he's heard battle cries. combat medic in vietnam. what does that really have to do with how would he know how george zimmerman sounded in that kind of stressful situation?

i want to start with you sunny. >> i think that's the question the jury would be dealing with. could he really know george zimmerman's voice. when all of these witnesses were getting on the witness stand to testify, i was in the courtroom for it. the first two i thought pretty heavily biassed here. sondra osterman married the zimm zimmermans. i didn't think it was effectively. as all of this witnesses got on the stand over and over, i think it has been effective. this last witness, mr. donnelly because he's saying he's an expert in how people would sound when under distress similar to what he saw when he was in combat medic, i think it's been a pretty effective tactic been the defense. >> he was emotional and times he was very uncomfortable with what

he was listening to. i want you to tell me whether or not that plays to the jurors and secondly, the fact he bought all these clothes for george zimmerman, the suits and ties and the shopping spree for him. does that undermine his kred credibility that perhaps it does call into question his credibility. >> i think all of those are valid points. who will know his voice that is close to him but once you indicate you're close to him then they will be subject to impeachment because they are too close to him. there's going to be a trick door no matter which way you go in. i think that they have been very strong. there's two women on the jury who are in their 60s. i think they would be highly relatable to the donnelly's. they came across as being

honest. somebody is going to be wrong. one side or the other. everybody on both sides believe what they have testified to. the issue is there's also a halo, an aura that is attached to george zimmerman have been former military. they have been people that are in law enforcement. that has a cumulative effect of helping him. >> stay there. we'll take a quick break in before we resume live coverage in a moment. ♪ we're investing big to keep our country in the lead. ♪ load! we keep moving to deliver what you need. and that means growth, lots of cargo going all around the globe. cars and parts, fuel and steel, peas and rice, hey that's nice! ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪ ♪ helping this big country move ahead as one ♪ ♪ norfolk southern how's that function? ♪

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helpful to the defense. she did sort of intimate that she thought he was truthful and believable. remember she was one of the officers that was removed from the investigation after the charges were brought and other investigators were brought in. it's usually pretty unusual to have what are really state witnesses like police officers and detectives and m.e.s being called by the defense. it shows you what you this case is about. the defense is turning things on their head. you just don't typically see it. when i was prosecuting cases perhaps it happened to me one time. it's pretty unusual that this happens. >> a lot of twists and turns. earlier we heard from lee ann benjamin. one of the things she said is she knew him because they were

involved in these political cam p campaigns. she heard him like these screams of joy or these political campaigns. she was asked about the 911 tape. she said that's george zimmerman's voice, a cry for help. is there any way that they could turn that and say george zimmerman, if he sounds that way on both the tape as well as what she calls, this this was not somebody who was screaming for help and crying out but that he was actually enjoying it. he was pummelling trayvon martin. there was a sense of joy in that moment. is there any way the jurors could confuse her testimony? >> whoever was screaming we know was saying help. it's rare that you would be jubilant and saying help at the same time. that would take pretty much of a diabolical master mind that i don't think we're going to find here. it comes back to the issue of

who was screaming is going to be the one who is likely the prevailing side in this case. we've said that for well over a year now. that's what's turning tout be correct. >> mark, we're going to dip back in in. this is doris singleton. >> chris serino said -- >> objection. hearsay. >> i'm not going get into what he's speaking of. >> she can testify to what she observed and has been the circumstances were but not to what anybody said. not as to what anybody said. >> including the other officer? i would need be heard at the bench for that. i know the limitation we talked about already just not ta one. >> go ahead and ask your question and i'll wait for an

objection. >> i think you were saying a setting. you may continue. >> the setting was in the office cubicles and they were both sitting at chris serino's desk. chris at his own seat and so trayvon martin could sit. i believe it was his girlfriend that was with him. they were there so chris could explain to them why at this point an arrest wouldn't be made. >> it was your understanding that investigator serino was in the beginning stages? >> yes. it was two or three days after the incident. >> where were you sitting or standing while this conversation was occurring? >> i was sitting probably

diagonal to the cubicles. i was in halls. it's where the cubicles would end before there's another wall that actually has officers that are walled. i was probably eight or ten feet from his desk. >> okay. ditd there come a time then that investigator played what we know to be the lauer 911 call for mr. trayvon martin an his girlfriend to listen to? >> yes, he played it for them. >> do you recall if it was played once or more than once in. >> i recall it was played once. i'm not sure if it was played more than once. >> what did mr. martin do in response to listening to the call? >> same objection. >> she can describe what she saw but not what he said. >> i'm asking you to give an observation as to his physical

response. >> he was very upset. he was very sad. he hung his head. he cried. >> did he give a response to officer serino? >> yes. >> the next question, i think might be objectional. what did mr. martin say in response to the question by many serino as to whether or not that was his son's voice? >> sceustained. >> no further questions for this witness. >> no questions. >> may she be excused? may she be excused? >> i'll recall her potentially as we go through the next couple of witnesses. >> you're subject to be recalled. stay in the building. you're excused from the courtroom. >> your next witness. >> officer chris serino.

>> you've been listening to detective singleton who was called before the stand. we're going to get a quick break before we go back live inside the courtroom in was a detective who interviewed zimmerman shortly after the shooting at the police department.

sidebar taking place in the trial there. so i want to bring in our legal analyst to talk about what we've learned. mark, to you first here. you've got two different camps who are listening to these 911 tapes, and they're hearing something very different. on the one hand, all much these witnesses on behalf of zimmerman say he's the one they heard screaming on the tape. you've got trayvon martin's mother and brother saying no, it was trayvon martin. he was the one who was screaming. how does this figure? is it all a wash at this point? >> well, the defense would hope that worst case it's a wash, and best case, that it's to their side. remember, it's the state's burden. and the defense strategy here is obvious. what they're attempting to do is keep on pounding one after another friends, family, coworkers, trying to establish that, in fact, they believe that it was george zimmerman's voice. and when you have trayvon martin's mother and brother, that was really all that the

state presented. so i think that the defense is trying to overwhelm the prosecution and show the jurors that clearly the state can't prove that it was trayvon martin's voice beyond a reasonable doubt because they put up one seemingly credible -- i'll say respectable witness after another. so remember, all ties in criminal cases go to the defense because it's the state's burden. so if it is a draw, in this case like any other case, to the defense. >> sunny, why do you suppose they only called two people to speak to identify it as trayvon martin's voice? >> well, you know, i think you call the witnesses that have the most punch. and this prosecution is trying a lean case. i mean, they could have tried this case in a month or two months. let's face it. and they didn't do that. they're trying a lean and tight case. so that's the strategy issue. they can't really call tracy martin, although they may.

tracy martin, when he heard the tape, said that doesn't sound like my son. you know, they may have to call him in rebuttal and clean that up and have him get on and say, i didn't want to believe it was my son, but on further reflection, i do believe it's my son. but that's why they didn't call tracy martin. if not, i suspect they would have. but you know, some would argue, suzanne, that two very strong witnesses that are intimately involved with the victim are -- is more important than calling five, six, ten lower-quality witnesses. it's quality versus quantity, and i think that's what the prosecution has done in this case. >> sunny, hang on there. mark, you hang on as well. we're going to take a quick break. we'll be right back live inside the courtroom up next. ♪ trains! they haul everything, safely and on time. ♪ tracks! they connect the factories built along the lines. and that means jobs, lots of people, making lots and lots of things. let's get your business rolling now, everybody sing. ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪

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watching the george zimmerman trial live. we bring in our legal analysts to talk about this while we wait and see who the next witness going to be. and mark, i want to throw this question to you here. we believe they're going to bring back detective chris serino, the lead investigator. why would they do that now? >> this case is upside down. i think they scored all the points they could have ever hoped to have made with the prosecution's lead detective who ended up really saying that george zimmerman had come across with consistent statements throughout. you know, you don't get much better than that. i don't know the specifics that are going to be seeking. the irony of this case, serino specifically, serino was almost the only initial officer who was involved in the investigative team who believed that a prosecution should attach to george zimmerman. but yet he came out very helpful, somewhat helpful, to george zimmerman with the cross-examination on the state's case. and then most of the other officers had made a determination that they did not

think this was a good case for prosecution and opined against it. so it's really interesting, the interplay. we've seen this entire case really backwards. you know, one side that you usually think is going to be for the prosecution is on the defense and vice versa. i'm interested in seeing why they're calling serino. i think it's a bit risky. they got a lot of beautiful information from the defense perspective with the state's case. hopefully they don't go too far, at least from, again, the defense perspective. >> it has been fascinating, actually, to see it kind of flip -- turn onity he its head,u will. sunny, serino talked about how the guy was truthful or honest in some way, but i'm not sure that that's admissible, that that was struck down. if jurors are asked to ignore that, does that really work when they're in the deliberation room? >> you know, i've got to tell you, i mean, i find that jurors definitely listen to the judge's instructions when they go back to the jury room. and i believe that most juries, when told you cannot consider

this, they don't consider it. but people are human, and you can't unring the bell. and in law school and trial practice, you often learn never, ever give up the opportunity to poison the well. that's what they did with this, the defense did. they poisoned the well. chris serino did almost vouch for the credibility of george zimmerman during the police interviews. and although it was stricken from the record and the jury was advised that they couldn't consider it, i'm not so sure how that's going to play out. but i think to mark's point what was also interesting is that chris serino was the only detective to recommend that they charge george zimmerman with manslaughter. and so, you know, i wonder what benefit the defense has in bringing him back to the witness stand and possibly opening up the door to that line of questioning from the government. i think it's a really risky, risky bet to put him back on the witness stand unless -- unless they are, again, trying to get in tracy martin's statement to

chris serino, which was, i don't believe that's the voice of my son. because it seems to me that the defense's entire case is about those screams. >> right. >> they want this jury to believe that george zimmerman was screaming for help. >> and mark, i want you to button this up, if you will, for us. if you were representing zimmerman, how would you be wrapping this on your side? >> well, i think they went ahead and they just touched the area without mentioning the specifics of tracy martin. but now it's evident to the jurors that tracy martin did listen to this call, the voices, and he was not called by the state to testify. to me, that's going far enough. you know, you've left a taint out there. as sunny just said, you poisoned the well without getting into any of the specifics. so it's got to -- it's obvious by its absence that tracy martin, who heard the call, was not called to testify. so that seems to me to be strong enough in light of all the other points that seem to have been made. again, with chris serino taking

the stand, i think it's a risky move. we'll see how it plays out. getting ready to take the stand now as i see. >> we're watching serino walk back in, taking the oath, is going to be testifying on the stand. we're going to leave it there. thank you very much. of course, we'll be dipping back in and talking to both of you. that is it for me. brianna keilar is taking it from here live from washington. hey, brianna. >> thank you, suzanne, very much. i am in for brooke baldwin today. let's get right back to the zimmerman trial where lead detective chris serino is on the stand. >> -- as well, testimony under oath. we had -- the conversation with your last testimony that talked about the ongoing investigation that you were in charge of regarding this case. you were the chief investigating officer, correct? >> yes, sir. >> did there come a time that you met with tracy martin and his girlfriend, brandy green, in your office? >> yes, sir, there was. >> do you recall about how many

days after the event of the shooting that was? >> it was either the day after or the day after the -- i think it was the 28th. >> okay. what was the purpose of you bringing mr. martin and miss green to your office? >> to bring them up to speed as far as the progress of the investigation, where we were at that point. >> okay. they had some concerns, did they not, as to whether or not mr. zimmerman at that point had been arrested? >> yes, sir. >> were you sharing with them your progress, what was done and what still needed to be done? >> yes, sir. >> and can you outline the setting, where you were when you had this conversation with the two of them? >> we conducted a meeting in the conference room that we have in the police department on the second floor. and after that i went ahead and played the 911 recordings for him. >> do you recall where that recording took place?