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out of sight. >> amazing story. everybody is fine. thanks for joining us. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. another big day in court. we have it all covered. the judge asks george zimmerman directly if he wants to testify. she gets teste with the lawyers and sets the time table for closing arguments. we are going to go live tonight from san francisco where investigators late today say the pilots of asiana flight 214 told the crew not to evacuate the aircraft. why? and then what made them suddenly want to change their minds. and then the man accused of setting the boston marathon bombs with his brother. you will see his face. there is a big change on that. let's go outfront.
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i am erin burnett. out front tonight the defense rests. a huge day in the george zimmerman trial. george zimmerman himself apparently concerned about his fate. today zimmerman spoke. you actually heard his voice to say he would not testify in his own defense. >> what is your decision, sir? >> after consulting with council not to testify, your honor. >> you understand that no matter what council says to you it is still your decision? >> yes, your honorer. >> it is your decision to not testify in this case? >> yes, your honor. >> and then when the day was done zimmerman's lawyer was asked about his client's state of mind. >> he's happy with the way the evidence got out and that he has had an opportunity to have his lawyers present his case for him. but we still have a case where the state of florida is trying to put him behind bars for the rest of his life.
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that is a very scary position to be in and he is worried. >> worried. as you know he has been watching every second of the trial for us. martin, the defense obviously has rested which is a significant event. court is not done for the day. what happened after that? >> there was a lot more that happened after that. the prosecution wanted to have testimony from what had been a pretty key witness from the defense stricken, that would be telling the jurors not to pay attention to john donelly, the vietnam war medic who dramatically said he could identify george zimmerman screaming for help in the 911 tape. he knew what people under stress could sound like. the reason the prosecution wanted it out was apparently he was sitting in the courtroom a couple of days earlier. the judge listened and said that testimony can continue as it had been. that means the jurors can continue to think about it. the other thing that came out the lesser inclusives.
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the lesser charges that george zimmerman could face if not second degree murder. they include the possibility of manslaughter and aggravated assault. manslaughter you could end up with decades behind bars and the assault charge could land you prison time. those are important issues. they are not done with those. >> and obviously crucial if they go for the lesser ones what it means for jail time. what happens tomorrow? now we get the closing arguments and go straight to the jury. it doesn't happen that quickly. >> the next thing is probably the attorneys going over the instructions with the judge as to how that jury is going to be instructed. most attorneys would tell you this is crucial because this is really what the jury hears as far as their job before they go off and do their job. what are the instructions? that is really, really important stuff. and then the next thing that
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will happen is you begin with closing statements. you know the prosecution will go first for about two hours and the day will end. that means the jurors overnight will listen to the words of the prosecution ringing in their hands before friday morning when the defense gets to come back and give their account. and then lastly it will be the prosecution with one final hour before the jury deliberates. friday is the key day. deliberation is expect to begin. >> of course, the question is to begin and when they end and how quickly this jury of six makes up its mind. thanks for martin savage. i want to bring in our legal analyst, sunny should george zimmerman have taken the stand? this was a very contentious decision. were you surprised at all? did you think there was any chance he might? >> i think he wanted to. even his attorney said he wanted
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to. it was very clear from being in the courtroom that he has a story to tell. it was very smart that he did not. he has his statements out there. many of them are inconsistent. to get on the witness stand would have been a mistake because it is a prosecutor's dream to cross examine a defendant. this was a brilliant strategy by the defense to convince him not to get on the witness stand. >> and they did indeed have to convince him. did the defense do its job? or do you think they rested too soon? >> i actually think they rested a little too early. i think when dr. di maio had given his testimony you don't get better than that. >> that is the guy talking about the whether zimmerman was on top
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or bottom. >> he was spectacular. i think what happened is that we had a little bit of what happened with the state. the state ran a great case, clean case beginning, middle and clean story and it unravel at the end. i don't think the defense unraffled the way the state did. i will tell you that the state did not -- the defense did not end it with that bang that they were hoping to. they would have done that if they ended it with their expert forensic. i think that they were looking for the best way to close it on a high. i think they got a gift by the judge leaving out the animations. that would have been cross examination for the state and they would have really unravelled at the end. they can use it in closing for demonstrative purposes. i think they should have closed a little earlier and then try to put in his father at the very end to make a statement. we had heard seven other people that was george zimmerman's
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voice. it wasn't that fireworks that they were hoping for. it was still a strong case, a strong defense case and i think they did as much as they could hope for. >> obviously that 3-d animation. yesterday the defense had the forensics expert. today their first witness was dennis. the cross examination on this one was really intense and the state brought a dummy into the courtroom to ask about the medical examiner's determination that martin was shot and the angle and the crucial questions to determine who was the aggress aggressor. i want to play this to show you what happened with the dummy. >> could not the defendant have shot him at a 90 degree angle? >> if trayvon martin is backing up and you are saying that mr.
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zimmerman is laying on his back and brings the gun if he is backing up that the bullet is going to go straight in? >> could he shoot him at a 90 degree angle ? >> i think i am getting really lost. this 90 degree thing. i don't want to misinform the jury. >> if the defendant started to sit up and trayvon martin is getting up are you saying there couldn't be a 90 degree angle? >> with him in a half up position? if the body is in line -- in order, my understanding to maintain the entry we will have to maintain some relativity between the two persons. so the relativity i can sit here and say the same thing that if i am laying completely back and you are more forward i can get a 90 degree entry. could it happen that way? the absolutely answer is absolutely yes. if he is getting up and he is
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getting up together, sure. >> should the defense have called that witness. he seems a little confused. >> i didn't think he was a good witness for the defense. on cross examination he was evisc rated. this jury likes this prosecutorer. he is attractive. he is aggressive. he doesn't seem to mind to get his hands dirty doing courtroom demonstrations. half stood up to see him do the demonstration. basically the prosecution took what was supposed to be a defense witness and turn him into a state witness. i think the defense had a strong day yesterday. they should have ended with di maio. they did not. today probably was diminishing returns day for the defense. this was not a good witness for the defense. >> thanks very much to both of you. agreeing the defense ended on a
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weak note today. we have more on today's case plus an interview with the man who chose not to arrest george zimmerman. an exclusive interview. tonight he speaks out. plus the latest on the investigation in the crash of 777 in san francisco. we have new details tonight that came out late today about two members of the flight crew who were blown out of the back of the plane and survived. and the head of the rail company whose run away train exploded potentially killing dozens says he knows now who is to blame. later a driver does something you are going to find we think pretty hard to believe.
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why did he let george zimmerman go free after the shooting? he is now speaking publicly for the first time since he was fired in an interview with our george howell. >> reporter: what are the decisions that go into letting a person walk free? >> well, the main decision is do you have probable cause to charge that person? george zimmerman made that self-defense claim. and the evidence and the testimony we had corroborated the statement. for us to arrest him would have been unconstitutional. >> trayvon martin's family attorney joins me now along with david mattingly. you just heard the former police chief say it would have been unconstitutional to arrest zimmerman. when you hear that what is your reaction? >> i think the sanford police department's failure to arrest
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george zimmerman for shooting and killing trayvon martin was a complete miscarriage of justice. we are always going to have people in our society who behave in morally deviant ways. for our system to fail to arrest a self-confessed killer of an unarmed child is a complete unjustice. >> david, let me ask you about this. about a month after the shooting the case got transferred. george howell asked the decision to basically take sanford out of this. >> is it fair to say that the investigative process in a way got hijacked? >> yes. in a number of ways. >> what do you mean? >> that investigation was taken away from us. we weren't able to complete it. and it was transferred to
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another district or a different state attorney. so that outside influence changed the course of the way the criminal justice process should work. >> it wasn't until a special prosecutor was appointed that george zimmerman was arrested and charged with second degree murderer. would he have been charged if the investigation hadn't been transferred? >> we are never able to answer the question because a grand jury was never called. the evidence was never presented so we don't know how to answer the question. we have to know that the city was actually blind sided by the back lash about this case. bill lee gave a press conference outside of city hall early in march. there were people shouting at him. the city manager had been on the job a very short time. until then there was never conversation in the city about the huge rift between the
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african-american community and the police department. so this caught them very much by surprise. they were reeling at that time the case was taken away from them. >> let me ask you about the 911 call and who was screaming for help. obviously it is the heart of the case. george howell asked lee about whether it was right, the initial decision made to play it to a room full of people which included trayvon martin's family. here is how he responded to that. >> to our understanding it was a room full of people, you know the martin family in this room, the mayor and city managers and perhaps others. they were all hearing the tape together. is that how it should have happened? >> well, if you are trying to have someone identify a voice, no. you know, it should be done individually so there is no influence on the other people in the room.
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>> it sounds like they may have made a mistake. how much of a difference do you think it would have made if they hadn't played it to a room full of people. the only people saying it is trayvon martin screaming was his mother and brother. the defense was able to bring multiple friends of george zimmerman to sayt that voice was george zimmerman's. >> that was remember that was played for the family because they were hearing the last moments of their son hfs life as he cried for help. she didn't talk to everybody because she had a visceral reaction when she heard her son call for help and she couldn't help him because she knew he was dead. >> so i understand what you are saying it was because it was such a sensitive and emotional moment that they chose to do it in that way. billy told george howell there were outside influences.
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i wanted to play what he said for this because he says the words thrown under the bus. >> one of our legal analysts today said chief bill lee got thrown under the bus. would you agree? >> yes. >> why? >> i love the city of sanford. and i hate that the city and the men and women of the police department were mischaracterized. it was pretty special to be selected as the police chief. i knew there was a big responsibility there. and i knew that we could make a lot of progress and a lot of improvements. it's a vision that is going to be unrealized. and i am at peace with it on most days. i am a man of faith but it stings. >> at the time there were demonstrators around the nation
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calling for zimmerman's arrest. it was an uncertain time. do you think there is something to be said for what bill lee said? >> bill lee failed to conduct a fair and impartial investigation which is why he lost his job. i personally thank god he does not have the ability to fulfill his vision to uphold an arcane practice that has no place in our legal system. >> thank you very much. we appreciate your time. of course, to our david mattingly back with with us with a special report. it was a contentious day in court. we have been saving some of this to share with you. there were some intense exchanges between the judge and the attorneys. we are going to play them for you. it sounds extraordinary. is it? later a facebook employee takes a long leave after the birth of a child. does it matter that that person is male? and for the first time since the boston marathon bombing the
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that might be one of the better words to describe the interaction between one of george zimmerman's attorneys, teste. he -- test y. >> have you made a decision as to when or not you want to testify in the case. >> have you made a decision as to whether or not you want to testify in the case? >> i object to the question. >> overruled.
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the court is entitled to inquire. >> i was -- on mr. zimmerman's behalf. >> i am asking your client questions. please. >> i object to the court inquiring as to his decision about whether ear not to testify. >> your objection is overruled. >> legal analyst, maybe that is why we were talking earlier about how george zimmerman wanted to testify. his attorneys didn't want him to. it seems clear to that. does this happen all the time where the judge has to say basically shut it? >> it brings back memories. i had a kidnapping case in manhattan where a judge asked an officer to stand behind with me with hand cuffs out. i was trying to get the judge off the case. this sort of thing is really
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arising out of the tension of the trial and the fast pace of the trial. i think everybody has admired judge nelson's hard working ethic but normally the judge doesn't ask the defendant if he is going to testify. she says to the lawyer first is your client going to testify. and then she may ask follow up questions to confirm that the client understands his rights. i have never seen a judge say to the defendant are you going to testify it is very unusual. probably not illegal but not the thing we see in court. >> this is the lawyer that told the infamous knock knock joke which fell extremely flat. last night don west said i am not physically able to keep this pace up anymore. i am working nights and weekends and i'm exhausted. the judge walked out on him. how does his interaction with her, does it hurt george
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zimmerman? >> i thought it was the dopiest opening statement with the knock knock joke. i have grown to be an admirer of his cross examination skills. he works hard. everybody likes a hard working judge and let's push the case. let's say we are having brain surgery or open heart surgery and you found out your surgeon was forced to work until 11:00 at night and then come back at 8:30. you wouldn't like that. we like a slower pace with such serious charges. >> interesting. wouldn't like it although doctors in this country do it all the time. outfront what would life be like for george zimmerman if he is convicted? >> i don't have zimmerman lasting six months. >> we will hear from a man who knows. allegations that aaron hernandez, the former new
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hernandez fired the shots. the extra step is very important because "sports illustrated" legal analysts tells outfront that hernandez's lawyers will argue the statement is inad missable because it is hear say. in may you may remember we reported that the navy launched the x 47 b unmanned drone from a carrier for the first time. that was a big landmark. today it actually landed the drone on the carrier. the project on government oversight tells us as the program progresses the conditions get more and more rigorous and we will begin to see how much of a future drones could have at sea. shocking surveillance video we want to show you of a hit-and-run in michigan. this was caught on tape. you are going to see a young
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mother and her 1-year-old son walking across a parking lot. the child gets caught into the bumper and dragged several feet. there is a happy ending in that the mother and the boy had only minor injuries. the driver fled the scene. police released the pictures of the suspect. police tell us there have been 80 hit-and-run crashes so far this year. >> it has been 704 days since the united states lost its aaa credit rating. we found out what fed officials were talking about in the june meeting. we don't know when the fed is going to cut back on purchases and uncertainty makes the market nervous. a very big question in the george zimmerman case. what will happen to him after the verdict is read? the defense team is fighting hard to keep the client out of
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prison. here is why. david mattingly spoke to a convict. >> i don't got george zimmerman lasting six months. >> reporter: larry is an ex-con and author who has grim predictions for george zimmerman if he is convicted. a want to be cop who killed an unarmed black teenager guarantees trouble. >> there is a whole litany of people that will either want a piece of george by extorting him or protecting him. george zimmerman's first six months to two years is survival. >> reporter: zimmerman would have to get tough and quickly. his attorneys tribute the weight gain to troubles with stress.
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his trainer testified he is no fighter. >> communications with the outside world will keep him as sane as he can. he will get support from various groups and various people. hopefully that will keep him. i think the prison system will protect him for as long as they can. >> reporter: these pictures come from the florida corrections website. protective custody means alone in a cell like this for 23 hours a day. the isolation can take its own toll. lawton spent 12 years in federal prison. >> you want to go crazy. i have watched men kill themselves. >> if convicted zimmerman would be looking at decades, maybe a lifetime behind bars dealing with a daily possibility of violence. is he ever going to be able to relax? >> great question. i was in prison for 11 straight
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years. i never slept past 6:00 in the morning. when the doors opened i got up and my boots on. where do you think they are going to get you in prison? when you are sleeping. >> a warning to zimmerman about a life he is desperately trying to avoid. >> what is the process if he is convicted? >> if he is convicted he will go to a facility called a reception center. it sounds very pleasant but it is not. that is where they take new inmates to be processed and determine what needs they will have and that is where they decide what kind of custody he will have to be in, if they have to protect for a while. it is not going to be a very pleasant place for him to be. it is only a stopping point to where he might be transferred at some other location. it is going to be his first
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taste of life behind bars in the state prison system. >> david mattingly, thank you very much. tomorrow a special investigation from david on what happens if george zimmerman is acquitted. now to san francisco where we have new details on the chaotic moments of the crash. the pilots told the flight crew not to evacuate. then they changeled their minds after a flight attendant saw the fire. within minutes the crew helped save 305 lives by getting people off the burning jet. outfront san francisco airport. we learned a lot today. what else are investigators now saying? >> something that really caught my ear is that investigators are looking at multiple mode changes of the auto pilot and auto throttle in the final two and a half minutes and looking at something the pilot said was an
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unusual flash of light he saw at 500 feet. it was a temporary issue for him. we also learned that there were three flight attendants ejected from the plane, not two. we also got to see some of the cabin crew. >> reporter: through a packed international terminal one flight attendant in a wheelchair and five of the crew spoke to reporters crying throughout their brief statement. the shaken crew prepared to leave san francisco where they survived asiana flight 214 days before. the families who suffered losses are in my prayers. she added her airline is working as quickly as possible to recover from the accident. the ntsb says the evacuation of the aircraft did not begin until 90 seconds after the plane came to a stop as flight attendants helped passengers escape they tried to put out a fire. it was a hectic evacuation amid
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a burning, smoking and dark cabin. holes punctured in the walls. evacuation slides opened inside the aircraft pinning two of the flight attendants but still fairly successful given that all but two passengers survived. >> about two minutes after the crash the first emergency response vehicle arrived on scene and approximately three minutes after the crash the first extinguishing agent was started to apply to the aircraft on the right side. >> reporter: adding to the chaos some passengers grabbed their carry on luggage as they evacuated. look at this picture. that is two duty free bags purchased in asia. others pulled down roller bags. bloggers were outraged. one writing at least one man said he first grabbed his luggage and then grabbed his children. another writing outside the
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plane many were carrying their luggage even duty free liquor. when i saw this i felt ashamed. former airline pilot called it human nature to grab luggage but a dangerous instinct. >> it is irresponsible. it is reckless. there may have been circumstances where it was relatively calm and moving certain belongings was a way of clearing the pathway a little bit. on the whole it is just a terrible idea. >> six of the flight attendants did leave returning to korea. an additional six remain here in the united states primarily because they are injured and cannot fly. >> thank you very much. the alleged boston bomber dzhokhar tsarnaev appeared in court for the first time today. that means we saw him for the first time. the mystery of the run away train. explosion that levelled a town
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alleged marathon bomber dzhokhar tsarnaev appeared in public today. this is the first time since his arrest. this is the first time we have seen him as the public. speaking in court the surviving suspect pleaded not guilty to all 30 public charges coming from the series of explosions in which three people were killed and more than 260 injured. 17 of the counts carry a possible death sentence. we haven't seen dzhokhar tsarnaev since he was arrested nearly two months ago and then we didn't see him really. he was severely injured in the police shootout in the boat. what did he look like today?
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>> reporter: it was very interesting when he first walked in. he was much taller than i anticipated from the pictures. he was probably a little over 6 feet. his hair was quite disshelved. he looked immediately in the direction of some family members sitting in the court. he got over to the table with his lawyers. his feet were shackled. he seemed almost uninterested in the proceedings. in the words of the mother of one of the victims that there was no remorse. the judge was speaking to him. he looked around. he wasn't focused on it seemingly to ignore the situation or the gravity of the situation. one interesting thing also when he entered his plea of not guilty the judge made him speak the words not guilty. and there was a thick russian accent. and i ran into some wrestling buddies of his from high school after the hearing. they wanted to get a look at the
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guy they had known so well. they said when they knew him there was never a trace of a russian accent so it was very curious to them as to why he was speaking clearly with an acisn't that when they knew him he never had. >> it is amazing when you say that. everyone told us he appeared to be totally acclimated. i know some of the survivors were there as well as others there to support dzhokhar tsarnaev. did he interact with any of these people at all? look at them? interact? >> reporter: he didn't look at the victims. it may have been he didn't know who they were. he locked on to two women, both wearing head scarves. one holding an infant who was fussing and he smiled and kept looking back at these two women who were visibly upset.
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when he was leaving court his hands were shackled. and he sort of pursed his lips and blew them a kiss. he did appear to have sustained some nerve damage to his face. there was a twitching going on. he did have one of his hands in a cast. just he was moving and fidgeting. he didn't look focused. even watching him in the center of all of this when everybody around him was so serious. it was one of the strangest arraignments of suspected terrorists that i had personally attended. >> pretty incredible. curiosity about what he looks like. now to our outer circle. tonight we go to canada. there are dramatic development tonight into the train derailment. 30 people are missing and presumed dead. that is stunning.
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the chairman of the railway company spoke today. what did he say? >> reporter: he met with a hostile reception. people calling him a murderer saying he was unwelcome in this town and if he came he would need security. he came with police escort. people are angry because it has taken him five days to get here and actually confront the local community. let's have a listen to what he had to say. >> i understand the extreme anger. and beyond that i will do what we can to address the issues here. we can't roll back time. >> reporter: he is obviously cooperating with police. the company has suspended the engineer in charge of the freight train. they are investigating what his role is with the disaster
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whether or not he correctly applied the brakes. the death toll is now 20 confirmed dead and 30 missing, presumed dead. this is a town basically dealing with a loss of 50 lives. >> it's impossible to imagine. 50 people in a small town dead. how are people in the town reacting? >> reporter: as you can imagine the sadness and grief has turned to anger. how was this able to happen? how was it this train carrying this crude oil as people described as a bomb is allowed to go through the heart of this town's center. the people want answers. and that is what they are demanding. we spoke to a mother today who is one of her sons is among the missing. she says in her heart she knows he is dead. the reason be is because his house has been vaporized. it is no longer standing. that is what we are dealing with
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is people looking for bodies of their loved ones but these bodies have been vaporized. it is a gruesome imagery but at the end of the day that and now taking time off to raise a child. a new dad writing about his experience while on paternity leave he say he was ridiculed because not working. that's because dads are in the minority when it comes to taking time off. 1 in 20 take more than two weeks off after their child is born. when it comes to companies that offer paternity leave, in the united states it's only 15%. up front tonight contributors and expect tablet parents together. i should note. they disagree on this, which makes it great. john, some of the companies that do offer paid paternity leave for fathers, earnston young give
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it with stipulation. so you can't take a great amount of time if someone else is the primary care giver. some say that's a double standard. do you think there should be a double standard to give fathers paid leave? >> i don't think. this is personal. we're around four weeks away and i'm under no illusion guys don't have it easier until delivery but an opportunity to reset as a family. while responsibilities are different, some paid leave is important to regroup as a family with this extraordinary new audition. >> all right. margaret, what do you think? do you agree there should be a double standard? >> i do think that there is a double standard for a very clear reason, reasons that we are aquatinted with and our husbands are. biology created a double standard. this is not company policies acting unfairly, this is the fact i'll have an entirely different experience in the three months following the birth of my child than my husband is and it's reasonable for
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companies to reflect that in the time off and paid leave. >> hard to argue with that, a e except i will. >> she's going through what she's going through, which is a lot and you get to hang in there. i'm kidding. >> i'm excited for a little bit of parental leave. >> that's important. prince william is said to be going on paternity leave for two weeks, which is what a lot of americans do but you get 28 weeks legally in the united kingdom as a man. the united states doesn't require paid parental leave. do you think that needs to change? >> you may be surprised here. i'll go conservative and go small government, i don't, actually. i'm for more policies that allow people to take paid time off with their family, but you can do that through private insurance program. i'm not for the federal government saying we need to pay
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for people to take time off and i'm not sure we want to look at europe -- >> john, let me tell you, did you see this, men in sweden, men get 61 weeks of paid paternity leave and they are in the witness result. >> i did notice that. 61 weeks? i mean, that's a socialist paradise. just kidding, that's nuts. i do think that some -- some paid leave -- look, we have these things in the 90s over small government act. folks generally agree it's the same. two weeks seems about right. some companies take more and some fathers take more and seems like a paid vacation. some is the right thing to do. >> it's tough, too, margaret in this country it's hard for women to take their full maternity leave. most women don't. they might be given more but don't feel comfortable taking it
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because of job security. >> we have laws that say you're guaranteed your jobs for 12 weeks, just not paid for 12 weeks. you should be able to know that you can go off, have a child and come back and have your job safely in place, i think that's a reasonable law and thank god for the family medical leave act. >> margaret is praising bill clinton. >> but the government isn't paying for my time off. >> that's a big one. obviously, this is personal and we're totally excited and i'm excited for a little parental leave dang it. >> i want to encourage that impulse because it would be nice to have you around. >> agree. looking forward to it. >> on that nice note of peace, we'll leave it there. john, march great hoover thank you. out front next, a truly rare find. long lost footage of an american president and his secret. mine was earned in djibouti, africa. 2004.
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it's one of history's worst or perhaps best kept secrets. post of us only say franklin d. roosevelt's disability in the movies. after polio went swimming got it, lost both legs in 1921 and four years before he was president roosevelt. only hollywood showed us move the. roosevelt in run rise. >> i am not going to let myself go down a drain. a bat beating breaks the stick or the student, well i'm not broken. >> john boydt in pearl harbor.
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>> mr. president -- >> get back, george, get back. do not tell me it can't be done. >> and then, there's bill murray in "high park on the hudson". >> so nice of you to come. forgive me for not getting up. >> those movies were some of the only tools that helped us better picture what life was like for the 30 second president. leader of the free world, running the country from a wheelchair. i remember the first time i went to his library and house to see what he had to deal with. i was shocked because we didn't have to deal with it. it was a mystery until now. indiana college professor ray stumbled upon this 35 millimeter
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film at national archives, an incredibly rare find. this is fdr. you see the president being wheeled down a ramp to a visit at uss baltimore in july of 1944. such a brief window into his life, but one that really didn't exist until now. the question is, did presidents have too much privacy then or do they not get enough now? let us know what you think. let us know what you think. ac 360 starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com we begin with the zimmerman trial, the trial judge pushing both sides hard, the defense rested today. the prosecution reagan rebuttal and the schedule set for closing arguments. the prosecution asked to allow jurors to allow lesser charges. mark o'mara spoke today saying the jury has what it needs to acquit. he joins us in the hour ahead and we'll talk with one oe
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