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legend. but the new ones will make it like 45 days. but as a snack food in a firm place in americana, yeah, they might last forever. tom foreman, cnn, wap. >> that's it for us. thanks for watching. a jury that today heard impartii impassioned closing arguments from the pruce. trayvon martin was there. he was there legally. he bought skittles or iced tea or whatever it's called. that was his crime. >> six women, five mothers, will
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decide if trayvon martin acted in self-defense. the judge said the jury may also consider the lesser charge of manslaughter. the state hammered away at the notion that the unarmed teen-ager was the aggressor. >> why does the defendant get out of the car if he thinks he's a threat to him? why? because he's got a gun. he's got the equalizer. he's got to take care of it. he's a wanna-be cop. >> sanford martin, what day. very, very dramatic, highly emotional, that closing argument from the prosecutor. i found it gripping to watch and i have to say if i was a member of that jury, very compelling. >> you're absolutely right. let me point out the significant difference between the way the closing statement by the prosecution differed from the opening statement. if you remember that, it was almost like a physical blow when
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they delivered that string of curse words at the beginning but today the veteran prosecutor, bernie de la rionda almost like delivering a sermon begins very methodically and he says a teen-ager is dead because a man acted on assumptions. very strong. listen. >> this defendant made the wrong assumption. he profiled him as a criminal. he assumed certain things. that trayvon martin was up to no good. and that was what led to his death. >> and that's exactly the point, that this was a teen-ager who had done nothing wrong, was walking through a community he had every right to be in and it went on from there but it was a strong beginning for the prosecution. >> i also thought it was very effective by bernie de la rionda was the way he weaved together
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all the statements george had given and interviews he'd given to the media, pointing out inconsistencies and suggests that he'd been almost rein reinventing parts of what happened according to the questions he'd been asked. >> this was a luxury provided by the defendant himself because he made so many statements. he'd made a number of them to police. a lot of them were audiotapes, he made videotape reenactments, he'd been on television telling me about what he did. so they took all those words in the trial and used it against him and bernie summed it up again today, only he called those inconsistencies certainly else. he called them lies and at times he screamed about them to that jury. again, from today. >> he's got his gun in his holster and you'll see in a few minutes -- maybe more than a few minutes -- one of the things that he does he demonstrates to the police where he had the gun. and it wasn't right here in the
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front, it was towards the back and it was hidden. and he'll demonstrate to the police out there where it was. look at the gun. look at the size of this gun. how did the victim see that in the darkness? he's saying that armpits! how does he get the gun out? armpits! how does he get the gun out? >> and it was a powerful moment. and he sort of backed that up by then later holding up the skittles. it's the candy that trayvon martin had. in one hand he's got the gun that was used to kill the teen. in the other he's holding the candy that the teen had gone to buy. the jury really was listening intently, piers. >> yeah, it was very, very powerful. thank you very much indeed. tomorrow just quickly for a sum-up, what do you think will happen tomorrow? >> well, of course starting at 8:30 in the morning, mark o'mara
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has to now come after this from the defense. he'll go for about three hours. he's got a few bullet points, he will carefully watch that jury. if at any point he thinks he's losing them, he'll shift and adjust. he's going to be very different from the way you heard de la rionda. >> very dramatic day today. as i said to martin savidge there, very compelling to walk. a lot of inconsistencies pointed out by george zimmerman. how did you think the day went? >> i think the day went very strong. the inconsistencies bernie used show this jury should not believe anything that he says and that at the end of the day trayvon martin did nothing to cause his own death. >> at one stage the prosecution asked for a lesser charge of manslaughter in the third -- i'm sorry, murder in the third
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degree to be introduced. what was the purpose of that? because he got rejected. >> well, as i heard it, they were attempting to use that with the possibility that there was a lesser part that involved child abuse that would have in essence given them a third bite at the apple. however, what they did do was very good in that you have a possibility of second degree murder and at manslaughter, which will be charged tomorrow during the charge conference. >> in terms of all the emotions running high around this case, darrell, tell me about the family. you've been very close to them as some other members of the legal team. to us this is a great trial to follow and analyze and debate. to them this is about the death of their son. >> well, it's very emotional. we have to always remember even as a legal team, although they're somewhat involved in the media aspect, not making any appearances right now, it's very personal right now. they have sybrina's mom here,
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sybrina's brother is also here, as well the sea of their foundation. very personal for them. they're very tired at this point. it's been a very, very long, enduring four weeks for them. and so they are trying to do their best to make it to the end. but as you know, there was a lot of emotional testimony this week. for example, to sit through the defense case and hear people make statements that all of us knew are not true or lacked good foundation was very tough for them. however, today they were very encouraged by what bernie de la rionda did, a very powerful closing statement, and they are anticipating an equally good rebuttal closing by john guy tomorrow. >> darrell parks, thank you very much indeed. >> thank you for having me. >> let's turn to cnn legal analyst jeffrey toobin and former supreme court justice leslie crocker?
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jeffrey, where are we? >> i thought putting in context not that this crime began on the night that trayvon martin died but it began when george zimmerman became more and more obsessed with these prowlers in the neighborhood and he got more and more angry and i thought that was very effective. where i thought it was less effective was all the use in the second half of all the so-called inconsistencies. none of them jumped out to me as bald-faced lies, and i thought building your entire summation or the entire second half around george zimmerman's own words rather than the testimony of others, i thought that was problematic and a weakness in the summation. >> apparently it is standard practice under florida law to bring in in second degree murder cases like this manslaughter as an option at this stage. some are spinning this as a victory for the state. but it wouldn't appear to be the
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case, it's almost a mandatory thing. do you think manslaughter is a more likely verdict here? >> definitely. in most states any reasonable view of the evidence that would support manslaughter, it would be given anyhow. in my view the state has presented a weak case as to murder but a stronger case as to manslaughter. it's hard to judge the prosecution's summation until we hear their rebuttal after the defense because i think the defense is going to do a brilliant job of destroying a lot of the points that have been made. >> do you think generally the defense has done a better job than the prosecution from the legal point of view? >> i think they've both done a good job but i think the defense has done a superb job and they've had a good, no-nonsense judge, who i kind of like the way i think i was when i was on the bench. >> would you be annoyed by don west and the way he's gone about the business or is that just par for the course? >> it's so standard.
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i'm surprised. >> let's hear a bit of it so the viewers know what i'm talking about and then i'll ask you. >> i've heard the argument from both sides. i am not giving that instruction. >> your honor, we submit that's an integral part of our theory of defense and the court is in error by not instructing the law of this jury properly on the law -- >> i understand. i've already ruled and you have -- you continually disagree with this court every time i make a ruling. i have provided you on three separate occasions with the court's professional conduct in the courtroom and included in that is do not continue to argue with the court after we've ruled. if i have made a mistake in this case, you will appeal. if there is a conviction, it will get appealed to a higher court and they can review it to determine whether or not i made a mistake. >> what i love about her is that she doesn't really show completely how exasperated she is. the truth is this is so standard. i mean, we're new yorkers so we
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see this every day in the courtroom. judges get into it with lawyers, lawyers -- for one thing i think that he had an absolute right to be outraged when the defense asked for this third degree murder lesser out of the blue. it was unfair surprise, it was ridiculous and the only difference if i had been there, i would have ruled immediately no. but i think she was right to consider it and reject it and this was not a big controversy. >> remember how hard they're working and the hours they're working. they're frustrated, they're tired, the stakes are enormous. this is literally life or death. >> and people are watching this around the world. >> i want to play one of the key moments today. this is about a teen-ager is dead. it's the clip that resonated most with me. it cuts to the quick of whether they'll be a conviction here. >> a teen-ager is dead. he is dead through no fault of his own.
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he is dead because another man made assumptions. unfortunately because his assumptions are gone trayvon benjamin martin no longly walks this earth. >> particularly in that part of the summation, it got us back to why this story became a national phenomenon. it's because how can we live in a country where a 17-year-old african-american walks down a rainy street, buys skittles and iced tea, comes tomorrow to watch the nba conference and gets killed. >> this is the tragedy of the
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case. we still have to come back to what is the prosecution strategy in this case? what is their theory? i did not here in the summation what their theory was of what happened. they asked a lot of questions, they showed inconsistencies, maybe not such great inconsistencies as you pointed out. where is this is what happened on this terrible night? >> from your eyes, judge, what is the crucial part of the narrative that could determine whether george zimmerman is found guilty or not guilty? >> the crucial part is whether the state can actually disprove beyond a reasonable doubt that george zimmerman acted in self-defense. that is -- >> in his head he believed he was in imminent danger of his life. >> that's absolutely right. the question is did he act in self-defense, did he act out of hatred, malice, evil. >> i've been banging on about
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this night after night. if somebody on a call to the authorities called his mate and says these a-holes, these f'ing punks, he's always getting away with it, he is profiling this kid as a potential criminal. >> not necessarily. he is a neighborhood patrol officer. his job is to try to stop crime in this neighborhood. and there is nothing inherently wrong with being a neighborhood patrol officer. they are not all crazy, wanna-be violent cops. they are people who care about their neighborhoods. as we heard at the end of the defense case, there was a terrible crime right in this neighborhood that zimmerman was very concerned about the victims. so the fact that people are getting away with crime and he's upset about it doesn't necessarily make him a racist, a thug or guilty of this murder. >> jeffrey toobin, it's a fascinating case. it's why everyone is gripped by it. thank you both for joining me.
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in the closing argument, inviting martin luther king, jr.'s "i have a dream speech." >> how did you think when he finished that bernie redee la rionda did?
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>> he was pretty thorough. a little emotional. he has his strategy and his plans. they carry the burden. it seems to me that he told the jury all the things he probably needed to do. whether he did or not we'll find out in a another couple of days. >> invoking martin luther king there? >> this case has been about race from the beginning.
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you get to be my age, you know what's real. >> race has been here from the beginning. it's going to be here through the verdict. it's going to be here after the verdict. it's the reality. >> one of the other key points to my thought in this summary was when he pointed out to everyone from george zimmerman's own words really, he was asked directly why didn't he introduce himself as a neighborhood watch official? and he just said, well, i was scared. it seemed to me to be an unlikely situation that, someone who is an experienced neighborhood watch official
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would be too -- >> well, particularly if you have been on it for some period of time and have a semiautomatic pistol on your hip, i don't know how scared he'd be. i would think he'd be emboldened. >> even if he was punched first, wouldn't you stand back and go, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, i'm neighborhood watch. i don't understand why that wouldn't be the first thing you would say. >> well, there you go with common sense again. what's the matter with you? of course that would have been a smart thing to do. we wouldn't be here. that kid wouldn't be dead. he could have just simply identified himself and telling me i just want to know what you're doing and presumably he would have said, well, i'm here at my father's house. he's right over here and, you know, good-bye. but it's unfortunate. and none of us know exactly what happened out there. but clearly you're right. had he done that, i'm willing to
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submit that there never would have been a further confrontation and maybe the sheriffs would have come there and verified who this kid was and everybody gone on about their business, watched the basketball game and whatever. >> what we now know, chase, as soon as -- since i last spoke to you is we know the criteria that will be on the jury. they can go for second degree murder, for manslaughter or for an acquittal. do you think there should have been other options or is that a satisfactory choice? >> i think that is the choice. what you have to understand and once again there have been some analysts that don't understand florida law and even some from florida don't know it, we have lesser-included offenses under florida law in different categories. category one lesser offenses are known as necessarily lesser included offenses and in the case of second degree murder
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there is one lesser included and that is manslaughter. after murder two it's manslaughter. if either side asks for it, the judge has to give it. this is no alarming deal in court, this is nothing that required research or trickery. this is automatic and the lawyers knew it from the day they got into court on this case. i'm sure they did. i know these lawyers. >> so making a big deal that they got manslaughter introduced is all nonsense, it was always on the table? >> that was nonsense. of course it's on the table. it's automatic. all it takes is one side or the other to ask for the court to give a lesser included offense on the category one, it will be given. no need to argue or discuss it. you have different categories, two and three, what the state was trying to do today was indeed pretty bizarre to come in
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at the last minute and go to a non-category one lesser included offense of third degree murder. that was silly and they wasted a lot of time and my friend don west nearly had a heart attack over there, but the judge did the right thing and it's over. >> let's listen to don west exploding over that particular moment. >> oh, my god, just when you thought this case couldn't get any more bizarre. the state is thinking third degree murder based on child abuse? is the court going to give this any serious contention or consideration? because if so, we have a lot of talking to do. >> i mean, it's pretty rich of him to talk about a bizarre state of affairs given he was the one that opened the proceedings with a knock knock joke. >> well, i'm sure he'll live that down for a very long time. this case as far as don is concerned is going to be about that joke forever. but the bottom line is it was
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bizarre. and for the state to come in on the morning of argument and try to change the case i think was in fact disingenuous, it was bizarre and i have to say, i'm sorry, it was unprofessional and legally incompetent and the judge did the right thing. >> let's cut to the quick now, cheney. how long do you think this jury will go out for and what do you think their likely conclusion is going to be? i appreciate it how long is a piece of string but give me your reasoned, experienced opinion. >> my reasoned experience and my crystal ball that i have on my credenza, this case can go any way. it can be not guilty, murder two or manslaughter. i believe the state has failed to prove a case of second degree
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murder. and i don't think that a jury will buy that. manslaughter is a different story. i have many years of experience, over 40 in trying homicide cases. there's no such thing as one free killing. juries when they don't have a question as to how somebody died, when they died, who calls them to die, where they died, all the things that we had none of in casey and there's a body laying there, generally somebody has a price to pay for that. now, they're going to have a hard time dealing with the concept of reasonable doubt and they don't have to prove anything other than a reasonable doubt as to the self-defense. if i were to sit around with a glass of wine and talk with you and katie about that, i'd say i think there's a good shot at a manslaughter conviction. i also don't think the jury's going to be out that long. >> interesting stuff. they can deliberate all weekend, we can get results any moment i would think after tomorrow afternoon.
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all of a sudden the yelling spot. >> assistant district attorney bernie de la rionda. i want to bring in a high-profile jury consultant who worked on the o.j. simpson and the casey anthony trial and a very eminent panel. richard gabriel, what's going to happen tomorrow? do you think the jury will be out by tomorrow afternoon? and if so, how long will they be out for? >> well, it's always hard to say. it is like reading tea leaves a little bit. i would guess we're going to hear mark in the morning, get to the rebuttal probably in the morning, early afternoon. they're going to get charged. they're probably not going to get little more than an hour or
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so in the afternoon. they're going to probably be deliberating over the weekend. i think this jury is going to really take their time. they realize the world is watching. typically as we've seen in some of the other cases, a short verdict typically is a pretty good one for the defense. it means they don't feel the prosecution has met their burden. i think we're looking at early next week for a verdict. >> i actually think it's a bit of a red herring, the screaming stopping. i would imagine the cries for help would stop whoever was crying at the moment the gun was fired, whether it was trayvon martin or george zimmerman. but what could be a question for the jury is whether to acquit him under self-defense or convict him of manslaughter. most people think that the murder charge is probably no longer a likely option. >> absolutely. the murder charge is out of reach. a year ago i said i didn't think second degree was doable but i
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think manslaughter was very much on the table. although it was pro forma today, it was still a victory for a prosecution team in need of a victory. i think they've made the case. my concern when the prosecution made the compelling argument, i think it may have hit the jurors in the heart but when they go back to deliberate, they're going to go to their heads and they'll ask did the prosecution present a coherent theory, and i don't think they did. >> have they really established what they think happened as the prosecution? >> and i agree. i do not believe they have met the burden of proof. and that really is very difficult because you have a defendant who has been very articulate about what happened and of course trayvon is not here to tell his part of the story. but i do think that there is a very likely possibility that the jury may come back with a
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conviction on the manslaughter charge. and so i think that the prosecution couldn't abandon second degree in their argument today and i think they were wise not to. >> jay, i want to play you a clip from bernie de la rionda where he was lie lighting inconsistencies in george zimmerman's testimony. >> he originally told the police over and over before and even after this interview he didn't know the name of the street. when they just kind of let him talk, he gives the name right there. i mean, it's common sense. there's only three streets and he's lived there four years. again, why did he have to lie about that? because he does not want to admit that he was following this innocent young boy. >> you see, jane, this is what i also come back to is that a
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neighborhood watch official has been on patrol, operating there for several years and there are three street names, he has to get out of the car to check which one it is? how likely is that? >> well, i think that he was turned around. i think that he wasn't exactly sure where he was at that moment because he was following trayvon. look, piers, the reality of the closing argument today was strictly appealing for sympathy and emotion. and bernie knows better than that because he knows in florida that the judge tomorrow afternoon is going to read to this jury that they shall not base their verdict on sympathy or feeling sorry for anybody in that courtroom. they must base their verdict on the evidence that they hear in the courtroom and the exhibits that have been admitted and the instructions by her honor. and she will tell the jury failure to do so and base their verdict on the law and the evidence only will result in a miscarriage of justice. miscarriage of justice.
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they are not to base their verdict on sympathy and emotions. and that's all the prosecutor did today. >> do you want to jump in? >> they're still a human being. >> i absolutely agree that's how they should be charged and that's what the standard should be but i think he had to go there. >> because he didn't have anything else. >> that's not necessarily true. you talk about the language on the tape and the comment he's made. there really is and i don't know that he'll be able to meet that threshold but there is evidence at that there may be possibilities of malice and intent and just the whole pattern of what happened. so i think that he did exactly what he had to do today. so i disagree with that. >> but there is one crucial bit of inkcontrovertible evidence ad that is that trayvon was shot dead and we now know he was a completely unarmed 17-year-old
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boy and that, if i'm a juror, has to be hugely significant regardless of anything else. >> they're not allowed to make a decision pure lirr based on emotion, they have to base it on the evidence. but we're human beings and even as you're objectively analyzing evidence, at some point you're going to have to say what was george zimmerman attempting to do? do i trust his testimony and that he was doing what he saved he was doing? ultimately that emotional tug at our hearts may play into it. only two people know what happened, zimmerman and trayvon and zimmerman killed trayvon. >> you don't have to use george zimmerman's words. can you ignore all of his statements. >> wait, wait, let's take a short break and we'll be back with you all. you're all staying. so let's just keep the powder dry until we come back after this break. i'm going to ask one question, what does mark o'mara need to do
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why does he get out of the car if he's got a car? why? because he's going to take care of it. >> if you have a view of this, tweet me with your view and we may read out your tweet. this is from isabella, a famous actress and entertainer. she's thinking following the george zimmerman trial, i'm so confused. the arguments are all very compelling. that really cuts to this trial, doesn't it? the arguments are very compelling on both sides. very, very difficult i think for these jurors and i hope they do take time to really think this through because it's an important decision. >> it is. >> it is important and the issue that has to be brought home, piers, two things.
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one, not guilty does not mean he was proven innocent. not guilty means the state has not proven its case beyond a reasonable doubt. our standard in this country. and that's very important. it does not mean innocent. and, number two, the prosecutor today with all his theatrics, he ended his closing argument talking about and there was no dna. and he of all people knows dna, trayvon martin had a closed fist and was punching george zimmerman, which is the nose being broken, as was indicated on the record by eyewitnesses, not george zimmerman's self-serving statements, by witnesses. and with a closed fist, there's no way to get dna under the fingers. bernie knows better and yet that's his best argument at the end? >> he also talked about covering his mouth and that's george's testimony, that his mouth was covered and that trayvon had covered his mouth. the question is why don't we see
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some dna on the sleeve, why doesn't we see it on his hand? >> dr. di maio answered that very clearly. remember he said because trayvon martin at that time was on top and he took his jacket. that's why the gunshot was two to four inches away because there wasn't a contact wound, there was stipling. >> this is the problem, piers. >> this is exactly the problem. everything is compelling. and the problem is whether everything is compelling, there's reasonable doubt. >> and there is. >> if the prosecution left the closing and we're still saying, well, the defense has a compelling argument and they haven't spoken yet, that's not a good sign for the prosecution. >> richard, you're a jury expert. this jury has the weight of the world's shoulders watching here. it's leading network and cable, all of the world now. this is the biggest deal they're ever going to have to face. what are they thinking tonight?
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what do you think their thinking will be over the next couple of days? >> well, the truth is that verdicts are rarely just about evidence or the law. they're about human judgment. and both of the attorneys have to sit there and say here is my juror, i've got a nursing assistant with eight kids, i've got a safety officer, i've got a woman whose husband is a space attorney who used to carry a conceal and carry weapon but let it lapse. these are the people that we have to talk to, this is the judgment that has to be made. it's what they think of it. it's likely that their judgment has already been made and their views may have already been formed even before this case started but it's -- >> let ask you this, richard. in your experience of juries, are women likely to be tougher in a situation like this than men or not as tough as men? >> it depends on the woman and it depends on the situation. the truth is everybody kept saying here's the women and they're going to be more
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sympathetic to trayvon martin. the truth is that it depends on their life experiences. what i look to in jury selection is you've got a woman who is reporting vandals, you got another woman who has got eight kids and a woman involved in pet rescue and loves saving animals. those are the type of personality issues that really do drive this decision and not necessarily their gender. the real question is how are these jurors going to get along because it depends largely on whether this is a consensus jury, they're going to get along and come to an agreement on either a murder charge or manslaughter or acquittal or they're going split because they're not going to agree on anything and you're going to end up with a hung jury. >> i'm going to make you my jury and i want one word. i want to know do you think he should be acquitted, manslaughter or second degree murder? let me start with you lamont
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hill. >> this is based on the closing statement of the prosecution? >> not guilty. i think he did it but -- >> that's a very honest answer. richard gabriel. >> i'm just thinking about the jury. i'm thinking they're heading toward a manslaughter because they don't have the motive. they have enough motive given the state of mind of george zimmerman but they don't have enough to give him that depraved mindset for a second degree. >> judge glenda? >> i think it's going to be manslaughter. >> jane weintraub? >> not guilty. >> we're hung, piers. >> it's a hung jury and i think that probably sums up how america's feeling right now. it's a complicated case and it could go any of three ways. shock ways on the trayvon martin case have reached across the country and across the world. the family of another young man
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get great rates at our ten top hotel brands during the great getaway. book now at hiltongreatgetaways.com. three years before the death of trayvon martin, police in oakland, california shot and killed a young man named oscar grant. the death was captured on cell phones. the officers were found guilty of manslaughter and sent to prison. thanks for coming in.
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very powerful, very timely. what do you see of the trayvon martin reaching its conclusion? what are the parallels with the story that you tell in your film? >> i mean, there are a few parallels. more than anything, there are differences. the biggest difference is that trayvon was 17, not even old enough to vote yet. oscar was 22 years old. oscar was shot and killed by a law enforcement agent. trayvon was killed by an ordinary citizen. george zimmerman wasn't a member of law enforcement. the biggest difference is somebody wasn't there to record what happened. they made everybody witness to it when it was shown on the internet. >> and the reason the policeman got a limited sentence is he argued he had been going for his taser gun, not his real firearm
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and he made a mistake and that was accepted. >> yeah, that was the defense's argument in that trial. >> did you believe it? >> it's not my opinion to make. you know, i think that i was much more concerned with the fact that a young man lost his life unnecessarily and it happens too often. young black males are killed, whether it's through police violence or black-on-black climb, it's the leading cause of death of young african-american males. too often our lives are looked at as having less value than others. >> it's very interesting you would say by ourselves. people have said, look, why so much attention to the zimmerman case when in chicago over the recent holiday four-day weekend, you had nearly 70 people shot, many of them killed, a lot of it black-on-black, youth shooting. >> absolutely. >> why is there not more being made of that?
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why is it happening so much in chicago and why are we not making more of it? >> i think black-on-black crime, it's the highest cause of death for -- >> why? >> i don't know why. there's a lot of factors that play into it. i think in situations of urban violence, self-hate has been perpetuated in this country and is a part of our commonwealultu. in urban areas, it comes from a demonization. like with oscar grant and the police looking at him. and the situation with trayvon martin. the same thing happens with situations of black-on-black crime. >> there's an irrational fear
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and suspicion perhaps? >> i think sometimes it's really short sighted. they don't see them as somebody who has a mom and a family and people they care about and a life that matters. >> let's take a look at the clip from the story. >> all right, all right, i hear. >> you arresting us? because we don't do [ bleep ]. >> shut up! >> what is the message you want people to take away from this film? it's very real, very raw, very powerful. >> for me the film was all about humanity. when i saw the footage, oscar was 22 at the time, i was 22 myself in the bay area. i thought about what if that happened to me? what if i didn't make it home to the people i love the most? when i started to research the case, i really wanted to make the film about the relationship he had with the people who knew
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him the best. often a case gets politicized and people want to make him out to be a saint who have never done anything wrong, some people want to make him out to be a criminal, a horrible thug who got the justice they deserve. to me they're human beings and they live had gray areas. the message was about the humanity, the fact that oscar was a human being and had people he loved and people he meant the world to and he didn't make it back to. >> congratulations on a terrific film. it opens limited tomorrow and across the country on july 26th. >> thank you very much, piers. >> we'll be right back. siri, do i have any text messages? [ siri ] you have a new message from chad -- "are you wearing my scarf?" ♪ tell me a joke. two iphones walk into a bar.
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final tweet here from after party. a 17-year-old boy was stalked, shot in the heart and the murderer is portrayed as the victim. welcome to america. tomorrow, closing arguments from
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the defense and george zimmerman's fate is in the hands of the jury. the very latest where you tell me what you have to say about this explosive case that's tomorrow night. that's all for tonight. anderson cooper starts right now. the prosecution makes its closing pitch. good evening again. welcome to another "360" special report "self-defense or murder, the george zimmerman trial." today, the lead prosecutor tried to bring home his case. the state of florida's case to the jury, that a wannabe cop fed up with crime in his neighborhood prejudged a teenager, pursued him and shot him dead. tonight, we'll look at the merits of that case and today's closing arguments. we'll focus on closing arguments from the defense and the impact of the judge's ruling allowing jurors to consider the lesser charge than just second degree murder, the charge of manslaughter. with me, the best legal panel around. first, the highlights from closing. here's our martin savidge. >> reporter: unlike his

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