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doctor about the only underarm low t treatment, axiron. ♪ hello, everyone. i'm michaela pereira. i'm in your ashleigh banfield. we start with a plane crash in maryland. we want to show you the live pictures. we're going to show you the wreckage after it plowed into a mobile home. we're told this is 20 miles northeast of the d.c. no word yet of any injuries. we don't know if there are people inside that home or in that mobile home park. you can see firefighters are on scene now. first responders are there. we don't know who the plane belongs to either. once we get more information, we'll try to pass that along to you. also something we're watching a massive wildfire
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burning in the california mountains that is nowhere under control. in the idyllwild area, 100 miles outside of palm springs. officials have ordered 6,000 residents to evacuate. 4,000 homes at risk. coming up this hour, live on cnn, president obama is expected to speak about his affordable care act also known as obama care. we're going to bring you the president live as soon as he speaks. and if you happen to be in the northeast, we don't need to tell you this. it is hot. it is so very, very hot. let's show you a hot picture. i don't think the statue feels the heat, but we sure do. this is a live picture of new york city. let us give you some perspective. the high temperature here in new york city today. 95 degrees. the same high temperature that's expected in kabul, afghanistan, just to put it in perspective. not something we see every day. it is not just here. much of the nation is feeling it.
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more than 20 states under a heat rice sorry. meteorologist indra petersons, girl, can i talk about the idea they sent new central park. i think they want you to feel the veracity of your report. how bad is it out there? >> i'm not going to lie. i feel it. around 2:00, 3:00 in the morning, it's hot. you feel that steam coming up from the concrete. but as the day prolgs even as the temperature slowly climbs up it's that son directly hitting you that makes it unbearable. i've talked to people saying it's not that bad. that's because they're out here a few minutes. you can see 88 degrees. with the heat indices, we're seeing temperatures be 95, 98 degrees, depending on where you are. is this nowhere where the hottest time of the day. i spoke to a couple people. >> we're from arizona, we came to new york city to get away from the heat. >> it's 98 in arizona. it's 100 here with the humidity. >> hot, too hot. but if you don't do it now, you're never going to do it.
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it gets hot here. maybe i should go and have a shower and go and see the sights of new york. >> it's hot, it's hot. i can't work. it's very hot today. it's like 88 degrees. and later, it's going to be like 97 degrees. >> you know, one of the things, michaela, we talked about, not just how hot it is specifically in one day, but it's how long we have to deal with that heat. that's the reason we have so many advisories. we're talking about major metropolitan cities. today, even more people affected. for a fifth day in new york. anywhere from southern new england, down to maryland. spreading all the way into minnesota and dakotas today. we actually have a few more days to go. we're not going to see relief until the weekend, eventually, we'll see the relief start in the midwest and make its way over here. for me in the good old gravel, it looks like a while. >> indra, i half expected to see
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you fry an egg on that sidewalk. we appreciate that you actually but flip-flops on. you cannot wear closed-toes shoes on a hot day like today. >> i'll make you breakfast tomorrow. >> indra reporting there. to sports now, and the expected and highly anticipated return of alex rodriquez, the yankees' third baseman said he'll be back on a major league field on monday for the first game of the season. it has been quite a rough ride for the former mvp. many rumors and accusations for the $275 million man who jut can't escape the critics or the c comics. >> there are rumors that major league baseball is going to suspend a-rod after the all-star break. honestly, that's okay. yankee fans are used to him not showing up for the second half of the season. >> how about that? what is a-rod hoping for as he
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gets back on the field. we get that story from our jason carol. >> you know, every day say new day. obviously, in this process, there's a lot of challenges. >> reporter: alex rodriguez knows a lot about challenges he's recovered from hip surgery. the second of his career. and the new york yankee third baseman is back on the field for now, with the aaa trenton thunder. getting back in the game, the real game, may be his greatest challenge. one he hopes to overcome with hope from fans. >> i mean, the support has been overwhelming. and this has been a very difficult process. i'm just humbled by the opportunity to play baseball. i love this game so much. i hate all the noise, but hopefully that goes away soon. and we can get back to playing baseball. >> reporter: part of the so-called noise, major league baseball's investigation into allegations linking rodriguez and other players to this florida clinic shut down for distributing
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performance-enhancing drugs. rodriguez denies being treated by the clinic. a possible suspension from the team. $114 million contract and his legacy hang in the balance. >> a lot of pressures, a lot of allegations out there. how are you managing to deal with that, while also trying to manage the physical part of trying to come back? >> well, that's a good question. it's never easy and not fun. >> what's harder jt mental or the physical? which one is harder? >> i think in this case, it's both. >> what happens if there is a suspension? how disappointed would you be if you're not able to come back? >> well i'm going to focus on the positive, you know. obviously, that situation, i can't comment on at the moment. but i'm really looking forward to coming back to new york. i feel like i owe the yankee fan base, my a-game. i don't think he that last year. >> no negotiations going on, no sort of plea deals? nothing like that? no deals being made? >> i don't think there's anything that's going on right now. that's as far as i'm going here. i think that's a process, we
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have a good system in major league baseball. let's get the process play out. >> it's the something that's not ruled in your favor wow, want to continue to fight? >> you know, i'd rather not get into any of that right now. it's premature. we'll let the process play out. that's my responsibility right now. >> he really doesn't do that very often, jason. one-on-one like that. that was a great get. he really did not want to talk about the biogenesis issue. >> no, he did not. the reason is because of the ongoing investigation. he was advised not to talk about. but he has been on the record very clearly saying, look, i did not take any performance-enhancing drugs i was not affiliated with that particular clinic. this investigation is ongoing. we'll see what happens when the m.o.b. completes it. >> he wants the message that is going on out there about him? >> he does, he feels that message has not gone out the way
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he wanted it to. he also said over the past year, he wanted to speak to his fans. he said he's been grateful to the fans who have come out to support him. there have been critics who say he's overpaid, not worth the money, all the medical issues not worth it for the yankees throughout. he has worked hard and he wants to come back. >> and that suspension is weighing over him, i'm sure? >> it's still very much a possibility. we'll have to wait to see what mlb couplings up with. what evidence ty come up with, i wouldn't be surprised if rodriguez decides to fight or appeal. >> jason carroll, our first time meeting. another one from indra petersons from the west coast. a trifecta here. >> we're all in the house. still after the break, trayvon martin's parents have been silent since george zimmerman was found not guilty of murdering their son. but today they come forward. they say it's sending a terrible message to kids just like
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trayvon martin's parents are speaking out for the first time since their son's killer george zimmerman was acquitted of second degree murder. trayvon martin's mother sybrina spoke this morning. she spoke about the implications the verdict has not only on her family, but on other families across the nation. >> is this the intent for the justice system to have for victims? i mean, they're sending a terrible message to other little black and brown boys you that can't walk fast, you can't walk slow. so what do they do? i mean, how do you get home without people knowing or either assuming that you're doing something wrong? trayvon wasn't doing anything wrong. >> i want to bring in michael scheuer. he's the washington bureau chief for "time" magazine. thanks for joining me this morning. the july 29th issue of "time"
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features this, look at it, a hoodie with the head line "after trayvon." michael, i'm curious, sybrina fulton mentioned the message it's sending. it's a refrain we've online and the media around the nation. you heard her, can't walk fast. can't go slow. do you get a sense of how the community's coming to grips with this, their own children's safety? >> you heard it from the president of the united states, saying if i had a son, he'd look like trayvon. i think there say lot of still anger and resentment over this ruling. and the question is now, how is it harnessed and will it be different or lead to different results at other times in our history where we've had major trials, horrible incidents like this, that have started conversations about race and profiling in america. and they'd last for a month. they'd last while the trial's on
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tv, a couple weeks later they go away. right now in churches across the country there's a real effort to try to transition from this moment, this trial and the aftermath into education people for young black people, young black men specifically. and political action to try and change laws around stand your ground. change laws around gun rights. change laws around voting rights which has come to the floor because of the supreme court ruling. >> you know, it's interesting, there's the reaction, the emotion. and then there are a group of people, there have been so many that are saying what do we do now? and they want to find solutions to move forward. you talk about that, what the pastors are saying in those community churches what civil rights leaders are doing. what kind of messages are you hearing? what's the common refrain? >> the common refrain is less not let this moment pass without doing something. and there's a real history of that happening.
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if you go back to history. emmitt tillo, rodney king, you have moments in your past where you've had these conversations started because of tragic circumstances. and the underlying issues don't change that much. you know, one of the things that a lot of these passators are al talking about, we do have the first black president. and a country that's moving forward in racial history in some respects but at the same time, the black community hasn't really progressed in other ways over the last five years. you know, unemployment is hurting the black community far worse than it is whites. the recession hit black household wealth far more than whites. you continue to have programs in new york like stop and frisk which infuriates the minority community up there. so, you know, the promise of obama when he came in two 2008 is still a promise. it's very meaningful, it matters a great deal. when you hear it being said in a
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lot of these churches, that's not enough. >> that's michael sheerer he's the washington bureau "time" magazine chief. trayvon martin's parents are going to sit down with our anderson cooper live discussing how their family is moving forward. the all-new interview tonight on "360." now, the trayvon martin case isn't the only one raising issues about stand your ground. an appeals court in tampa says the defense can even be used on a school bus. the miami herald is reporting about a student who was found guilty of battery. let's break it down. the bus driver testified that the girl grabbed boy's jacket, pulled him on the seat and punched him. the girl, by the way, disputed the claim. we're not sure if she nationed any charges. but the boy did fight back. the case went to court. the zwluch blocked usage of stand your ground. the boy appealed.
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and now joining us, danny cevallos and attorney and former criminal prosecutor faith jenkins. thank you both for being here. let's talk about this notion, should stand your ground apply in a school bus fight? not just the notion the fact it's happening on a school bus, a school bus fight, those things happen likely daily around the country. faith, let's start with you? >> well, in florida, the statute is very broad. anyone can invoke stand your ground defense if they're in a place where legally entitled to be. the lower court found the statute only applied if you were in your home or car. the higher court recognized that and that's why the decision was reversed. it doesn't matter if you're a school bus or street corner. under florida statute, if you're legally entitled to be where you are, you can invoke stand your ground. >> danny, you probably had one of those fights on a school bus
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growing up? >> oh, i was the recipient of many beatings on a school buss unfortunately. the thing to understand about standard ground, the statute creates a presumption in certain areas. in other words, if you're in your home or in your car, oh what a difference george zimmerman been in his car when this altercation started this case may have never made it to trial. so it creates a presumption that the using of force is proper. anywhere else, the defendant has to prove it. so faith is absolutely right. it doesn't matter, you can be in a school bus. you can be in a park. up can be eating green eggs and ham, wherever you are, you may be able to apply stand your ground as a defense. there no -- there is no guarantee that if you're in your home or car it applies. but there say statutory presumption. once get outside that locust, as long as you're somewhere you're lawfully allowed to be it is broad in florida. if you can prove it, preponderance of the evidence you invoke stand your ground
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immunity. >> i'm concerned, i want to put this question to both of you, this is about -- you know, what kind of message is this sending to our kids and teens? >> well the difference between stand your ground and regular defense laws is there's no duty to retreat. you don't have to stand down. you don't have to count to ten. there's no obligation to try to quell a dispute. you can use force in the beginning. and it takes away that choice, that limitation, and that message that we want to send to our kids. if you don't want to resort to violence don't. but the stand your ground statute says just the opposite. you have that option, you can take it and you're not going to be held accountable if you actually had the opportunity to retreat and you didn't. >> danny final thought? >> yeah, when applied, there won't be that many differences between self-defense and stand your ground. the real criticism is stand your ground as a policy. what effect, what incentives it creates. that's the real criticism on a
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global, macro sort of level. that needs to be sussed out. >> danny cevallos and faith jenkins, appreciate you both. have a great day. thousands of men and women are sexually assaulted by their military commanders and their comrades. what two branches are doing something about that? jcoming up in a few minutes we expect the president to speak live about affordable health care, also known as obama care. we're waiting the president coming to the podium and making his comments. we'll be back in a moment. ok, i am coming. [ susan ] i hate that the reason we're always stopping is because i have to go to the bathroom. and when we're sitting in traffic,
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it is a damning mark on the u.s. military, rampant sexual assault against both men and women. the pentagon estimates, kind of a shocking number, 26,000 servicemembers were the victims of sexual assaults last year. that's up from 19,000 in 2010. cnn has learned that the navy and marine corps are actually going to begin to publish their own version a sex offender's list which is part of the effort to crack down on sexual assaults
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in the military. cnn's barbara starr following developments and joins us live at the pentagon and join us via skype is steven razor, a judge advocate in the army. thank you both for joining us. barbara, first, why don't you give us the key details of this new plan. >> well, it is sort of a sex offender's list, michla. what the navy and marines are going to do, start publishing a list of court-martials. including sex offenders, people up on sexual assault charges. they will publish the charges. the details. the disposition of the cases, whether they are convicted, acquitted, what the punishment was. one key difference from civilian sex offenders' lists, the names will not be published. those could be gotten perhaps through a freedom of information act. why are they doing this? the military is under tremendous pressure from congress to show that it's taking action against the sexual assault crisis. the feeling in the navy is this
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will bring more public attention to it, it's one of several measures they're taking to try and get it into the public arena and show that they are cracking down. show that to the public and also show it to the troops. michaela. >> barbara, i'm curious, there are voices that say the military brass has failed so far in reducing the sexual assaults from 2010 to this year's numbers, it's up significantly. >> you know, it's an interesting question, because one of the key problems is, they don't really have a good handle on the statistics. you look at those numbers. is it the case that there are more incidents? perhaps, yes. or is it the case that more incidents are simply being reported? because what we do know is that victims by traditionally, are very reluctant to report these cases. they feel that they would be persecuted, harassed, intimidated. so a lot of the effort is to try and take away the stigma. get these people to report these cases so they can be prosecuted.
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are the numbers up? probably almost, certainly, they are. but the feeling is, some of it more victims are will are willing to come forward. >> that is the big challenge. getting them reported. let's bring in steven razor our criminal defense attorney and former judge advocate in the army. do you think this plan is going to go part enough? is it any good? >> i think it's a good first step. i think what they're attempting to do is create a corollary to what we have the in civilian system which is a way to track sex offenders so people on the outside know exactly what they're dealing with. i think it's a good step in the direction. i think they're more or less going to try to mirror what they're doing and create a symbiotic relationship between the military and convictions in the state so that people that are involved or connected to these individuals have full information as to who they are, and whether or not they are in fact a danger to them. >> now, steven, i'm going to ask this, some are going to wonder
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how on earth a person found guilty of sexual assault or even being investigated for it, would be allowed to continue to serve in the military? >> well that's one issue that is very obvious, and it does scream for an answer. i think for the most part if someone is convicted after a court-martial. and it's a serious sexual offense, especially violence involved, they will not be in the military. it simply does not happen. there's no doubt about that. however, what they're trying to do right now is try to create a database that even civilians can be aware of. what we just mentioned about statistics is a way to track to see, if this problem as it is being addressed, whether or not that problem is improving or not. and i think we see this kind of dip upward in reported cases, as was just reported because of the fact that it's becoming easier, and there's more accountability and there's also more protection for the victims. they need some way to 2r5k this. i think that's the major focus
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here. but also for individuals who are discharged from the military so that people on the state or civilian site can be made aware of who they are along with other sex offenders who have been convicted through the civil. >> steven raiser and barbara starr, thank you for joining us. this is a story weesh watching here on cnn. we are minutes away from president obama speaking on it his landmark health care act and how it's saving you money. we'll join the white house live in a moment.
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all right. a live picture in the white house. the president standing alongside a young woman by the name of morgan terrio. from silver springs, maryland. she received a refund check for $260 after they didn't meet the health care policy spending at least 80% of her premium dollars on health care. president obama is joined by families who have benefited from the health care law. let's listen in as the president is about to speak on his affordable care act. >> thank you very much. thank you so much, everybody. >> well, i want to thank morgan for that introduction. and i want to thank all of you for being here. there are a couple of people i want to make sure that especially acknowledge.
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first of all, the leader of the democrats and the house of representatives and somebody who worked harder than just about anybody to get the affordable care act into law, nancy pelosi. >> we have some outstanding members of congress here. some mayors and elected officials who are here. i want to give a special shutout, i'm not going to introduce all of them because it would take too much time and i might miss somebody. there's one person who is standing in front -- sitting in front who i want to acknowledge just because he has served for decades. and for decades fought to make sure that everybody had affordable, accessible coverage. and we're so proud of him, john dingell.
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congressman dingell. so i want to welcome everybody to the white house. every day, across the country, and certainly, here in the white house, there are people who are working, as we speak, to implement the affordable care act. and to deliver the security of quality affordable health care to more americans. the good news is, starting october 1st, new online marketplaces will allow consumers to go online and compare private health care insurance plans just like you'd compare over the internet the best deal on flat screen tvs or cars or any other product that is important to your lives. and you're going to see competition.
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in ways that we haven't seen before. insurance companies will compete for your business. and in states that are working hard to make sure that this law delivers for their people, what we're seeing is that consumers are getting a hint of how much money they're potentially going to save because of this law. in states like california, oregon, washington, new competition, new choices, market forces, are pushing costs down. just yesterday, state officials in new york announced that average premiums for consumers who buy insurance in their new marketplace will be at least 50% lower next year than they are today. think about that. 50% lower.
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so for people like morgan who are self-employed, who have to buy on the individual market, they're suddenly going to see opportunities not just for the rebates we discussed, but also for even greater savings in their monthly premiums. so if you already buy insurance on the individual market, meaning that you don't get insurance through a big group plan, through your employer, it could mean thousands of dollars a year that can go towards paying a mortgage. or putting a kid through college or saving for retirement. and what this means is that hundreds of thousands of new yorkers who don't have insurance will finally be able to afford it. because these exchanges, this big pool, is going to reduce the cost. and you may qualify for health care tax credits, middle class families, will potentially qualify for these credits that will bring the costs down even more.
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so this is just an example of how the affordable care act is doing what it's doing what it's designed to do. deliver more choices, better benefits. a check on rising costs. and higher quality health care. that's what it was designed to do. and we're already seeing those effects take place. now, i mention all of this, because yesterday, despite all the evidence that the law is working the way it was supposed to for middle class americans, republicans in the house of representatives voted for nearly the 40th time to dismantle it. we've got a lot of problems in this country, and there's a lot of work that congress needs to do. get a farm bill passed, get immigration reform done. make sure we've got a budget in place that invests in our children and in our future. and, yet, instead, we're refighting these old battles.
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sometimes, i just try to figure out why. maybe they think it's good politics. but part of our job here is not to always think about politics. part of our job here is to sometimes think about getting work done on behalf of the american people. on baffehalf of the middle clas and those who are striving to get into the middle class. and so, the progress that we're seeing in california and in washington and oregon and now new york, that's progress that we want to make sure we're seeing all across the country. because there are still millions of people out there who not only want to get health insurance, but many who have health insurance, who deserve a better deal.
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and deserve the kinds of savings that the affordable care act will offer. now, if you're one of the 85% of americans who already have health insurance, could be through your employer, or through medicare or medicaid. you already have an array of new benefits in place. you don't have to wait until october 1st. you're already getting benefits because you don't know it's because of the affordable care act. you're getting more protections. you're getting more value for each dollar you spend on your health care. and that last point, the issue of getting better value for your buck is what i want to focus on today. for years, too many middle class families saw their health care costs go up and up, without much explanation as to why or how their money was being spent. today, because of the affordable care act, insurance companies have to spend at least 80% of every dollar that you pay in
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premiums on your health care. not on overhead. not on profits. but on you. now, many insurance companies are already exceeding that target. and they're bringing down premiums and providing better value to their customers. but those that aren't, now actually have to reimburse you. they're not spending your premium dollars on your health care, at least 80% of it, they've got to give you some money back. last year, millions of americans opened letters from their insurance companies, but instead of the usual dread that comes from getting the bill, they were pleasantly surprised with a check. in 2012, 13 million rebates went out. in all 50 states. another 8.5 rebates are being sent out this summer, averaging around 100 bucks each. and for families like morgan's
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that, you know, are working hard, every dollar counts. it makes a difference. as she said during her introduction, she'd been buying insurance on the individual market in maryland for years after she got a rebate for the first time. and i'm quoting morgan now, she said it felt like someone was actually being held accountable for the dollars i was spending on health care. that's one of the core principles of the affordable care act. holding insurance companies and providers accountable. so that we all get a better deal. dan hart who is here from chicago had read these rebates were happening but he didn't think anything of it until he got a check in the mail for 136 bucks. dan's a father of two. as any parent will tell you, those kids, they suck up a lot of money. so -- am i right? absolutely. so he used his rebate to pay
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some bills. rick shoewell and claudia diamond own a stationary store in virginia. rick said i figured i'd never see the money. so it was a complete surprise to him when they got a rebate for $320. put that money right back into their small business. and this is happening all across the country and it's happening because of the affordable care act. it hasn't been reported on a lot. i bet if you took a poll, most folks wouldn't know when that check comes in this was because of obama care that they got this extra money in their pockets. but that's what's happening. now, even if you don't get a rebate, even if you didn't get a rebate, there's a good chance that these reforms are helping you as well, because one easy way to meet the goal of spending 80% of every dollar on care is to charge less for your care. now, we've got more work to do
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to get rising health care costs under control. and some of the gains that we've made, some of the progress we've made in slowing the rise of health care costs isn't always passed on to workers. sometimes, companies may keep it and they are charging their employees a higher co-pay or higher deductible or in some way shifting some costs on to some workers. but generally speaking, what we've seen is that health care costs have slowed drastically in a lot of areas since we passed the affordable care act. we've got a lot more work to do. but health care inflation's not skyrocketing the way it was. and because of this new rule, because of the fact that is improves the value of the coverage that you purchase, last
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year alone, americans saved $3.4 billion in lower premiums. that's $3.4 billion on top of these rebates. so that's just one way this law's helping middle class families. but it represents everything the affordable care act means for folks who already have insurance. better benefits. stronger protections. more bang for your buck. the basic notion that you ought to bet what you pay for. now i recognize there's still a lot of folks in this town at least sti rooting for this law to fail. some of them seem to think this law's about me. it's not. i already have really good health care. it's about the dad in maryland who for the first time ever saw his family's premiums go down instead of up. it's about the grandma in oregon
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whose free mammogram caught her breast cancer before it had a chance to spread. about the mom in arizona who can afford heart surgery for her little girl now that the lifetime cap on her coverage has been lifted. it's about the folks here today who got a little bit of relief. and i'm curious, what do opponents of this law think the folks here today should do with the money they were reimbursed? should they send it back to the insurance companies? do they think that was a bad idea to make sure that insurance companies are being held accountable? i know that's not what these folks think. so the upshot is the american people deserve a fair shot. they expect businesses to play by a fair set of rules. and that's why this fight is so important. our broken health care system threatened the hopes and the dreams of families and businesses across the country who feared that one illness or one accident could cost them everything they'd spent a lifetime building.
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and step-by-step, we're fixing that system. it's hard. you know, this is a big country and the health care industry is massive. and there's tons of providers. and so as we implement, there are going to be glitches. there are going to be certain states for political reasons are resisting implementation. and we're just steadily working through all that stuff. the same was true when medicare was started. the same was true when social security got started. there were folks who for political reasons resisted implementation. but once it got set up, people started saying, it was a pretty good deal. it gives me a little more security. it's part of that basic bargain that if you work hard, if you're doing the right thing, that you can get ahead in this country. and that you can provide some
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basic protections for your family. and health care is at the heart of it. it's part of it. affordable health care is not some privilege, just for the few. it's a basic right that everybody should be able to enjoy. so, we're going to keep fighting to secure that right. to make sure that every american gets the care that they need. when they need it. at a price they can afford. that's the america we believe in. that's what families deserve. that's what we're going to keep on working to deliver. we're going to keep on working to make sure many people around this country who are already paying premiums are getting cheaper prices. that the money's being actually spent on their health care. that you're not having to worry about the fine print. that if you don't have health insurance, you finally are in a position to get some. at an affordable price, to give you and your family the kind of security you deserve. that's something everybody should support. that's not something that should be subject to politics.
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if the folks who had been trying to make political hay out of this thing, if they had some better ideas, i've always told them i'm happy to hear it. but i haven't heard any so far. what i've heard is just the same old song and dance. we're just going to blow through that stuff. and just keep on doing the right thing for the american people. so thank you very much. thank you. >> all right. that's president obama in the east room of the white house. obviously, health care is a matter that affects and gets the attention of a lot of americans. making the argument that the affordable care act is indeed beneficial. and share something of the successes in his estimation. we, of course, want to get the republican response to the president's speech on the affordable care act. we will get that after the break with representative phil roe. he'll join us after the break. we'll be back to speak with him.
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well, moments ago, you heard the president speaking in support of the affordable health care act. i want the president speaking. i want to bring in a congressman from tennessee and thanks so much for joining us today and welcome, representative roe. i want to ask, are you a physician. i would like to hear your response to what the president just said. >> well, i got to hear most of it. it was a good speech. the problem is the president left a lot of things out of his speech like the 21 new taxes, the premise we need to have higher quality, lower cost health care is one that we all share in this congress. the question is how do you do it? do you do it with a 2700 page very prescriptive bill with 22,000 pages of rules and regulations and, look, you can't write a 2700 page bill and not have good things in it. there are things in the affordable care act i agree
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with. we need health care reform that is patient centered and market driven. that's the only way you're going to hold the costs down. in our state of tennessee the individual rates are scheduled to go up by a huge amount and small businesses, and that's where the real problem was in the -- of the uninsured in this country. >> i heard you say that patient centric. patient centric. give us an idea of what the solution in your estimation is, the common ground that you think can be found. >> i think the common ground right there is when the patient comes in to my office to see me which they did for over 30 years in tennessee where i practiced, and that patient and myself made the health care decisions, not the insurance company, and not some pubureaucrat in washington d.c. you can set it up with their own policy, where the policy is not owned by the company you work for. health savings accounts where you decide and direct where the
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dollars go and i had breakfast with dr. ben carson. brilliant man who shares many of the same ideas. putting the patient and the doctor back in control of the health care system. >> we want to bring in our chief political an irs gloria borger joining us to talk about this as well. you had a chance to hear the president. what is your reaction to what the president said in defense of his affordable care act? >> in listening to the congressman and the president, i think it is the same old, same old arguments we have heard about health care reform over the years. it is a question of big government. what republicans are saying is, look, i don't want the insurance companies and i don't want the federal government whom by the way we don't trust to do much of anything in charge of our health care and what the president is saying is, look, if we all band together and we have these insurance pools and we have mandates, then health care costs are going to go down and your premiums are go down and the president spoke about rebates,
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for example, that certain people are getting. what the president didn't talk about is the fact that this is so complicated that he has had to delay mandates for businesses to ensure their employees another year because it is very complex and they haven't been able to get their arms around it and do it, so he has given them another year to do it. what republicans are saying, if you have delayed it for businesses for another year, delay it for individuals, so they don't have to go and get insurance as part of these pools. why are you doing it for business and you're not doing it for the average american? >> let's bring in representative roe, and there will be voices that will say, look, the way it stands nout, i am not happy with the way any medical is. how do we fix it? i need help now. i can't wait for this argument to continue over and over again. >> the problem, most people who had health insurance coverage in the united states liked their coverage. the president remember said if you like your coverage, you can
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keep it. by the way, he did say about three years ago that he would go over this bill line by line with anybody who wanted to and i asked him to do that, and never heard and i heard him say at the end of the speech he was waiting for ideas. this afternoon if we can work it out we have one more little glitch to have a republican alternative completely ready to go, so he didn't mention, let me give you an example. i am the chairman of the subcommittee on health employment labor and pensions and i held a field hearing in concord, north carolina, not ang ago and for the self-insured what he didn't say is there is a company over there, mr. horn, he had a textile manufacturing company and mr. horn provides 80% of the coverage, all preventive services, and basically all of those he provides, so what does he get out of this bill? he gets a $63 per person fee that he has to pay to help indemnify insurance companies. many self-insured businesses, my home city of johnson city,
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tennessee, it will cost them $177,000, another hidden tax that no one talks about. >> let me just say with all due respect to the congressman, i don't think that health care reform is going to be repealed. the president would veto that. this is a political argument that people are having now as we head into the mid-term elections. health care reform is there. it may be fiddled with in one way or another. it may be delayed for a while in one way or another. it has been passed by the united states congress, signed by the president, and he is not going to preside over an undoing of it right now. there have been 40 votes in the house to try and do that, and i think the congressman and others there are making political points about what they don't like about this, and that's likely to continue through the next election. >> all right. we'll have to leave it there. we want to say a big thank you to congressman phil roe. thank you for your time.
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