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>> twice a week? >> yes. >> is that normal for teenagers in your community? >> yes. >> much has been said about her. now you get to hear from her. that's tomorrow night. he was born a prince but raised in a broken home. >> here's little 7-year-old william saying i hate to see you sad, mummy. >> she finally fit the glass slipper. >> she's not somebody growing up in a castle or a palace. >> through their rocky courtship. >> they're going to get married or not, make your mind up. >> and royal wedding. now the real work begins. to raise an heir to the throne. to modernize the monarchy. to learn how to be will and kate, plus one.
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it was the moment the world had been waiting for. the most talked about courtship of the century. after a decade-long romance, kate middleton and prince william finally tie the knot in a fairy tale wedding. thousands watched outside the church. middleton family friend john haley was sitting in the front row. >> i was four foot away from everybody, from the queen, prince phillip, charles, all the royal family and it was amazing. >> kind of a pinch yourself moment? >> it was. i couldn't believe it. you knew they were coming, because the roar just came through the abby. you could hear it from outside. and then when kate and her dad come in, wow, that was -- it sent tingles all through your body.
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>> it felt like a wonderful country wedding. >> lady elizabeth was sitting rows behind her cousin, queen elizabeth. >> a huge atmosphere in the church, huge amount of love in the church. which just happened to be a royal wedding. >> a royal wedding that would mark a new era for the british monarchy and a new way of doing things, with william and kate breaking tradition almost every step of the way. >> they did everything themselves. they put up whatever flower they wanted, all of that was personally chosen by them. i think that's the first time it had happened in the royal family. >> westminister abbey is where it all officially began for the duke and duchess of cambridge. billions watched as william and kate married here back in april 2011. and almost immediately after they said i do, the speculation began when would the next royal baby arrive?
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>> because the one job kate had to do immediately after the wedding was get pregnant. >> author katie nickel has been writing about the royal family for the last decade. >> she had to secure the line of succession. we were always going to be on bump watch. >> but in true william and kate style, they did it their own way. waiting and choosing to enjoy time as newlyweds before starting a family. >> it's a breach of royal tradition. you look at diana and the queen, they were very pregnant within three and six months of being married. >> even their honeymoon was different. >> what royal newlyweds usually do is go off to the queen's scottish residence. they decided they would go someplace else. >> it shows how thoughtful they are and they do things their way. you can see their voice and opinion in all of their life choices. >> i think this is a very modern
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royal couple. >> and a royal couple desperate to be normal. william and kate would delay taking on full-time roles as working royals, and spend their first years of married life in a rented farmhouse on the remote welch island. >> they live near this beach, right? >> they're about a few miles behind us. >> ewan hughes is the head of tourism. >> their house is pretty normal. they're not living in a castle or a mansion. >> remote, incredibly beautiful, secluded, and that gives them privacy. and that's most important. >> it really couldn't be further from the life that they will be facing and living when they're back in london. the pressures, the job, and the paparazzi. >> that's why it is a utopia for them.
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>> kate and william are often seen around town, enjoying a pint, browsing the shops, or even picking up groceries. in fact, locals call the dutch else a savvy shopper, known to make meat pies and homemade gravy for william. >> immediately after their wedding day, what did we see? we saw kate pushing a shopping trolly around the car park of her local supermarket. it doesn't get more ordinary than that. that's their stamp, that's their imprint. >> on the world stage, they would at times appear unroyal, like here in canada. >> you can see the look of excitement on her face as she got into the vote. and almost a look of frustration that william had beaten her. >> she did look frustrated that she was defeated. >> this is a couple that can't finish a game of tennis because they're so competitive. but he gave her a hug, and that
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moment walls significant, because you don't see royals cuddling. you just don't see it. but these two are not afraid of breaching royal protocol, and showing the world, you know what? we're really happy together. >> after their first year of marriage, while william served as a search and rescue pilot with the air force, kate slowly stepped out for royal engagements on her own, choosing charities to support, like the children's hospice. >> about 400 families we look after. on that first visit, her approach was just so natural. it's as if she was blind to the disability, but could see the child. that's, of course, takes some skill. >> the spotlight was absolutely fixed on her. every engagement she carried out. the world was watching. >> her true test would be her first official speech, one she gave for the charity.
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>> i feel hugely honored to be here. >> there were six, seven satellite vans in our car park. it was going around the world. >> i'm only sorry that william can't be here today. >> i think she did a very good job. it really can't be easy to do that with that much pressure. >> but there was perhaps no greater pressure on kate those first years than to produce an heir. >> i think there was a level of surprise that it had taken quite some time. >> and it took no time for bump watch to kick into high gear. >> every time she wore a dress that was a little flowy, every time she put her clutch in front of her waist, the examples upon examples of all the speculation, everything. she wouldn't eat peanut paste, so she was pregnant. >> yeah, i was on that trip in copenhagen, and there was a discussion amongst the reporters, why is she not eating
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peanut paste? and it was just relentless. >> when kate did get pregnant, she couldn't hide it. the duchess was admitted to this hospital with acute morning sickness last december. then the palace had no choice but to announce the pregnancy, though she wasn't even 12 weeks along at the time. >> i think it took everyone by surprise. it wasn't just the announcement of the pregnancy, but that she was seriously sick. >> later, a pregnancy in jeopardy. >> it affected kate, particularly badly. >> but first, growing up for prince william, a childhood marked by tragedy and scandal. mine was earned in djibouti, africa. 2004.
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june 21, 1982. the couple welcomed prince william arthur phillip louie. >> may we see your son,? >> the world just rejoiced and they were showing themselves to be modern royals. >> from the start, william's life was one contrast after another. a future king of a 1,000-year-old monarchy, raised in an entirely new way. lana marks was princess diana's close friend and confidant. >> william was raised very differently than the previous generations of royals in that though he did have official royal nannies, diana fulfilled much of that role herself in taking the boys everywhere, collecting them from school, taking them on vacation. >> being raised as an ordinary
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boy rather than a prince. >> diana really did break that mold. >> she did. >> prince charles, the way he was raised, very different than how his sons were raised. >> yes. charles was raised by governesses. >> in the first months and years william was often seen by his parent's side. as heir to the throne that also meant growing up in the public eye. from the moment he was born, prince william was in the spotlight every time he left the grounds of the palace, cameras followed. >> i remember william's first day of pre prep school in north london. >> ken wharf was a bodyguard for diana and her sons for more than seven years. >> diana said to him, william, when we get to school, there are going to be lots of photographers. he said i don't like tographers in this very william-esque way.
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we arrived at the school and there were about 120, 130 photographers waiting for william's first day at school. what she was trying to say to william, look, you have to live with this, you're going to get this for the rest of your life. >> for william, it would be a life long struggle, walking the line between a desire for privacy, and the very public duties of growing up royal. and it would only get worse. william was just a boy when his parent's rocky relationship spiraled into a global scandal. >> william became sort of the fixer. he loved both of his parents. he wanted everybody to be happy together. >> christopher anderson wrote the book, "william and kate, a royal love story." >> here's this little boy when her mother locks herself in the bathroom after an argument with
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charles and she's sobbing and here is this little 7-year-old william slipping tissues under the door saying i hate to see you sad, mummy. >> as william got older, diana made sure he was prepared for all the scrutiny he would face. >> william was old enough to read the papers, although the headmaster at the school made a point of keeping them out of his reach. >> did he really? >> yeah, he did, in order to protect them. but then william moved to eaton and you couldn't hide newspapers from william and the other boys. they were interested. over time, he became a confidant to diana. so he took an awful lot on. >> it is announced from buckingham palace that with regret, the prince and princess have decided to separate. >> in august of 1996, william's parents finally divorced. even in the midst of living in this fish bowl of tragedy, scandal and speculation, there were many moments of normalcy. >> they would sit watching tv
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and munch potato chips. she would take them to mcdonald's. she would do regular things with the boys and hug them and kiss them and show them affection. >> as a teen, william was coming into his own, learning to live in the public eye, and living out the lessons his father and mother taught him. >> this was a woman who insisted on taking her children out of the palace into hospitals, into hospices to meet the homeless, to do the serious, gritty work that a royal should do, and i think also charles deserves credit, as well. because he's also always been very proactive. >> and just as the dust settled on the divorce -- >> this is cnn breaking news. >> an unspeakable tragedy. >> the french government has informed all of us that princess diana has died.
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>> a high speed pursuit by the paparazzi, and the fatal crash in a paris tunnel that killed princess diana, taking william's mother from him at the age of 15. >> he was at that quite difficult transition stage of boy going into manhood and not to have his mother there, the person who he could count on, the person that he absolutely adored is a loss that i think he'll feel forever. >> after the very public funeral, william withdrew. and not long after the palace and the press forged an unspoken agreement, giving both william and harry space and privacy. the world got quick glimpses, although carefully choreographed by the palace. so william grew up and quietly began dating. >> he began dating some of the more beautiful ladies. he tried an online romance with
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britney spears at one point that never really got off the ground. >> but playful young romances aside, william knew finding a mate would be serious business. he would have to find a woman willing to put one the relentless scrutiny. and to do that, he would once again have to break from royal tradition. >> she's not an aristocrat. she was from a working class background. >> when we come back, the making of the woman who would be queen. ♪ ♪ ♪ unh ♪ ♪ hey! ♪ ♪ let's go! ♪ [ male announcer ] you can choose to blend in. ♪ ♪ yeah! yeah! yeah! or you can choose to blend out. ♪ oh, yeah-eah! ♪
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quiet english countryside. the place kate middleton calls home. >> wherever you go, it's fabulous around here. there's two pubs in the village, and there's a church, and that's all. >> john haley owns one of those pubs. what is the community like? would you say people keep to themselves or is it tight knit and everyone knows everybody's business? >> no, nobody knows after each other's business but they do look after each other. >> he's known the middletons for 16 years. >> they've been here many, many years, so they're just like any other family. they're just a great family. >> carol goldsmith and michael middleton met and married in 1980. the oldest of three children, kate was born in 1982.
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what i heard from other folks is she was as normal as normal could be. >> just a normal working class family. they're both workers, the parents, carol and mike, so just a normal working family. >> kate was baptized at this church. she was a brownie in the local scout group and loved being in school plays. such a normal ordinary childhood for a woman in line to one day be queen. >> i think they were a family that always did things together. they enjoyed nice holidays. they drove nice cars. but it wasn't always the case. they came from pretty modest upbringing, a modest start in life. and it was really because of carol's desire to improve their position and to build that family business. >> they sold supplies for children's parties and soon spun it into an online internet empire worth millions. >> it was carol who saw that
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this business really had legs to grow. and of course, when that happened and there was money in the bank, they decided to invest in their children's education. >> as the middletons saw success, they sent their children to private schools. kate was 13 when she came here, arriving confident, happy. but that would soon change. >> she went in at the age of 13 rather than 11. moat of the girls had started at 11, so -- >> they already had their circles. >> they kid. and it was very difficult for her to find her feet. >> she became the victim of the mean girls in the school. there was malicious gossip about her background. she was one of the few girls from a working class background. >> carol middleton wasted no time. she immediately switched kate to a boarding school. >> it was a big school. >> ali baines went to school with kate. >> boarding schools, if they're
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not happy, are miserable. there's very few in between. >> for kate, it was a tough start. >> you have to forget the glossy image of the dutch else of cambridge that you see on the television and remember particularly as a young woman she was quite shy compared to pippa, who was outgoing and sociable. kate was much quieter. she was a different character, and it took some drawing out of her shell. >> carol middleton once again stepped in. >> her mother set out to transform her. she combed out her lush hair, got her wearing makeup. so when she reappeared in school, it was a new person. >> it was here where kate really came out of her shell. popular, athletic and a serious student. but she also had a bit of a wild side. according to one friend, she was
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known to moon the boys from her dorm window, earning her the nickname, kate middlebum. >> it was great fun and she was a very pretty girl. >> yet kate didn't date much, and despite her denials, many who knew her then insist she set her sights much higher than her prep school classmates. >> i talked to too many friends who said yes, she always had this picture over her bed, a picture of william in fishing gear. so she did have her sights set on her like a lot of the young women her age. >> winter 2000, kate would come close to meeting her prince. after her graduation, both kate and william traveled to chile with the same youth volunteer group. but they just missed each other. malcolm sutherland was their expedition leader. >> i think it's incredible for a start that william and kate didn't even know each other.
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this is kate sitting in front. >> for both, it was hard work. they helped build buildings, teach english, even clean toilets in the same small town in chile. >> kate's tough. she's a sporty fit lady. she knew what she was about. she knew how to look after herself. >> while kate missed william that winter, chris andersen says carol middleton says that wouldn't happen again. >> originally kate wanted to go to edinborough university. >> so many believe that kate was among one of those women, thanks to her mother's gentle nudge. >> in kate's case, did she nudge her toward a relationship with the future king of england? yes, and why not? by putting her in proximity to
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fall 2001. william arrived as a freshman at the university of st. andrews in scotland. it was far from home and, again, breaking the royal mold. most royals went to cambridge or oxford. >> i really do want to be in control of my own life and i hate losing control. it's very important to, you know, see what you want to do and go for it. >> and at st. andrews, william would get protection from the press. >> he agreed to give a number of televised interviews during his school years at st. andrews. but apart from those occasions, he was to be left in peace. >> i met him as soon as we arrived. and incredibly, quickly, this group of friends formed.
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>> jules knight became one of william's closest friends. >> there were no real heirs and graces, if you like. for me, he was just another guy. he's a very down-to-earth, normal guy. >> one of the first girls to join their circle of friends, the equally down to earth and norm allocate middleton. >> i got to know her early on. she was very charming, a very delightful girl. >> maybe a bit shy, though, when meeting the future king of england. >> i turned bright red and sort of scuttled off, feeling very shy about meeting you. >> william invited friends to his dormitory room and she did this courtesy and he spilled his drink on himself. >> sally's is where they lived freshman year. they quickly became friends, bonding over their love of art history and their swims in the pool.
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another connection, a shared sense of humor. >> i have a very dry sense of humor, so it was good fun. >> but it wasn't all fun for william. >> he had all the same stresses and pressures as every student does. >> charles warren was one of his professors. >> he was panicking about approaching deadlines and struggling like most of the students do. >> and actually he did seem a bit low and unhappy. i remember distinctly thinking i'm not sure he's enjoy thing much. you're a long way from london, in the middle of nowhere really. and to think, i've got to spend the next four years here is intense. >> william and kate attended art history lectures in this building. the first year it was a tough one for william, struggling with the pressures of his work and being far from friends and family. he almost quit.
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>> he went home for christmas after the first semester and said to his father, i don't know if this is for me. >> friends say it was kate who convinced william to stay, and as soon as he returned from christmas break, everything changed. >> the turning point really came when william watched kate in that now infamous charity fashion show. >> it was march 2002, the annual st. andrews charity fashion show. and on the cat walk, kate. >> i remember that specific night very well. >> jules knight was watching the show that night with william. >> she wasn't what you call a risque girl. she was a pretty safe bet. and here she was not wearing that much, looking amazing. i think everyone did think, wow. >> but that was the moment when he suddenly realized that his friend was actually very hot and
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he rather quite liked her. >> and the next fall when william and kate moved into this flat together with a couple of friends, their friendship turned romantic. >> it just sort of blossomed from there, really. we just saw more of each other and did more, so yeah. >> you liked my cooking. >> it was all right. it's got better. >> living with a girlfriend was almost unheard of for a member of the royal family. >> it was controversial, but i think it was felt that they didn't want mistakes of the past. they didn't want history repeating itself. and this was an opportunity for the couple to get to know each other. >> and to really get to know each other, the world's most famous prince knew he had to keep his relationship a secret. >> they had a policy of never holding hands, never being seen to be publicly affectionate. if invited to dinner parties, they would often arrive separately. >> by the end of their second year at st. andrews, they were
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in love. william found the normalcy he craved in kate. >> she's not an aristocrat, she's not somebody who grew up in a castle or palace. she's pretty normal, really. >> kate brought william home to spend weekends with her parents in bucklebury. >> i think he loves going for dinner around the house and he loves being part of something which is actually, yeah, standard. >> behind the walls of st. andrews, william could live like a ordinary student. >> i do all my shopping. i rent videos, go to the cinema. just basically anything i want to, really. >> i remember we walked out of the pub, called ma bells, which is where we went a lot. we were quite drunk, and i think i saw a pellet gun on the floor, someone had discarded this sort of toy gun.
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so i picked it up and i was waving it around and he grabbed it out of my jacket pocket and he was holding it in the air. suddenly even in my drunk state, i was like, this is probably not a good idea. >> if william was wild, jules says kate was always in control. and by the spring of 2004, william was ready to introduce his girlfriend to the world. >> if you take somebody to cloisters skiing, which is the place that your family had been going for the last however many years, it's a pretty clear sign that he's saying to everybody, this is the girl in my life. >> coming up, the perfect romance abruptly ends. >> prince charles said you can't keep stringing this girl along. if you're not ready to ask you to marry you, break it off. mr. goldman loved his family a lot, didn't he dad?
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of americans, everyday. "dedication: that's the real walmart" at st. andrews, prince william lived happily and privately. but as graduation arrived, the agreement that kept the press at bay was gone. >> protection that they had enjoyed had finished, and it was open season as far as everyone was concerned from then on. >> open season on william and now on his girlfriend, kate. >> well, i think when they left st. andrews, that was the real testing point for kate, could she cope with the fact that
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there were photographers outside her flat every single day? >> the pressure was relentless and a terrifying reminder of what had happened to princess diana. >> the accident that's happening isn't happening in the streets of paris, it's happening in the streets of london and it's happening to kate. >> with the press following her every move, and william forced to be away doing his military training, kate was left wondering what was next? >> they had this period of time when they were basically together but nothing was happening and everyone was going are they going to get married or not? like make your mind up. >> william seemed to have a lot on his mind, including what was fair to kate. >> at one point, he said i was born into this, she wasn't. and does she deserve this kind of treatment? should i be subjecting her to this? >> but kate, she was ready.
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>> she really demanded that he commit, as they say. and william wasn't ready for it. he went to his father, prince charles. he said if you're not ready to ask her to marry you, break it off. >> publicly and painfully decided to break it off. so kate went back to bucklebury. >> she did what she always did, and it was carol who said okay, you can have your weekend of mourning and your tears. then you're going to pick yourself up, dust yourself off and show him what he's missing. that's what she did. >> do you think she saw something he hadn't saw before? >> we saw something we hadn't saw before, plunging necklines and dresses and confidence and radiating. >> it was evident that she was being very forthright.
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she was like right, i'm getting on with my life, cool. and it hasn't worked out, that's behind me, let's move on. and she was very calm and level headed and strong about it. and i think he thought, oh, my god. >> he became unglued. he started drinking too much. he went out with his buddies to various clubs. he was very obviously adrift emotionally and it didn't help to see him pictures of kate having the time of her life. >> i think at the time i wasn't very happy about it, but actually it made me a stronger person. you find out things about yourself that maybe you hadn't realized or i think you can get quite consumed by a relationship when you're younger. you know, i really valued that time for me, although i didn't think it at the time. >> if the breakup made kate stronger, it made william certain. he never wanted to be without
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her again. back together and vacationing, kate and william made a deal. >> william had a military career and a training program to complete, and he knew he had to do that before he got married. the pledge was, if you wait, there will be a ring at the end of the day. >> quietly, the pair and the palace began planning. >> you can see how much work had been taking place behind the scenes. she was being trained. she was being groomed and prepared for a far more important role, which is queen in waiting. >> there was also the matter of kate getting to know her future in laws. >> the palace and the queen were acutely aware of mistakes that had been made with diana, that she felt isolated and ostracized and they were determined this shouldn't happen to kate. >> and that would take a special effort, beginning with prince charles.
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>> kate said that she was very nervous about meeting william's father for the first time. and i think charles went out of his way to make her feel welcome. >> after nearly ten years of secrecy, breakups, pressure and paparazzi, it was finally time for william to pop the question. >> we had our little private time away together with some friends, and i just decided that it was the right time really, and we had been talking about marriage for a while, so it wasn't a massively big surprise. but i took her out somewhere nice in kenya and proposed. >> and that long promised ring? >> i had been carried around in my rucksack about three weeks before that. i knew if it disappeared, i would believe in a lot of trouble. it was my mother's engagement ring. obviously she's not going to be around to share in the fun and excitement, so this is my way of keeping her close. >> charles and diana had a quite
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difficult start, because diana stalled in the limelight without necessarily wanting to. when i went to canada and north america with the couple on tour, yes, people were chanting for kate. but they were also chanting for william. so right from the outset, the dynamic was very, very different. >> more that they were equals. >> i think that's exactly the word, they were equals, and it wasn't just the kate show, it was the william and kate show. >> and they took that show on the road. from a spectacular wedding. ♪ to their first overseas tour. >> thank you very much. >> coming up next, a royal baby
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not escape the worst of news in what should have been the best of times. the joy of the pregnancy was quickly eclipsed by tragedy. a nurse at this hospital killed herself after accidently putting through a prank call that revealed private details of kate's condition. kate was said to be devastated. >> of course she was still seriously ill, very hormonal, and to have the trauma and the tragedy of a suicide over what should have been the happiest announcement of their lives i think must have been truly awful. >> so kate left the hospital and soon returned perhaps not surprisingly to the comfort of home. in bucklebury. christmas of that year, how different was it? >> they decided to spend christmas with her family so she
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could relax and put her feet up, which isn't something that happens in royal residence. >> but even christmas had its complications. when you're part of the world's most famous family, what do you get the royal who has everything? >> well, the answer to that question is something small, preferably hand made. and if you can inject humor into it, all the better. she had taken up jam making. it was something she enjoyed doing. so she would jar up her jam and she gave pots of preserves to the family members, which went down i think very, very well. >> back home, more domestic bliss. though william has never claimed any of the credit. >> i would say i'm getting better cooking. kate would say i'm getting a lot worse. i get quite lazy about cooking, because when i come back from
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work it's the last thing i want to do. but when i was trying to impress kate, i was trying to cook these fancy meals and would catch it on fire. >> as her pregnancy progressed, kate readied the nursery and the new apartment. she also kept an ambitious work schedule. >> i remember being at the national portrait gallery, thinking she should be tucked up in there. but she was in four-inch stilettos, giving a speech and meeting people from the art room. >> to john haley, it's not unusual. it's just kate. >> you know, she's not catherine, she's kate. she still comes in and she's just herself. >> and even in her hometown, the baby became a source of great speculation. >> we've got an actual charity
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where people are saying, will it be a boy or girl, what weight it will be. so i can't weight to see. >> and that could happen sooner than nip might think. after the baby is born, some reports stay kate will bring the baby to her parent's home here in the english countryside, breaking from royal tradition. not a surprise, though, to many considering kate's tight knit bond with her family. >> i understand, because you do want to be with your mother or you want your mother around. >> is that of any concern to the palace? >> for her family to be included in everything and in her life is of paramount importance to her and to william. >> most believe kate will hire a nanny to help. but unlike royals in the past, will remain very involved in every stage of the child's life. >> i imagine that kate will want a very hands on role and be
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involved with whatever the nanny is doing. i don't think she's doing to see the royal nursery as a domain that is not hers. i think they'll look at their own family. diana was very hands on. can i recall and michael were very hands on with kate. they will want to bring that into the family dynamic. >> they're just as sure to avoid the mistakes of the past. especially when it comes to managing the pressure of the media. >> if they comply with things like that at the beginning, the heat goes off, because i think the media do have a respect very much for prince william because there is a lot of guilt about how they treated the princess of wales. >> and yet there's no getting around the simple fact that this baby, whether a boy or a girl,
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will be in line for the throne. as the queen's cousin, what does this baby mean to the queen herself? >> i think an enormous amount. she's going to see there is a continuity there, and it must be such a relief if you've worked so hard at something. >> a continuity for the monarchy. and yet if history is any indication, kate and william will keep doing things the their own way. >> i think you'll see them push royal boundaries, break royal mold and forge their own way forward for the future. >> is the monarchy evolving? >> i think the monarchy is changing now and preparing itself for the future. the royal family is built on tradition and heritage and continuity. it's the greatest dynasty in the world. but in order to move forward, it has to modernize, it has to change. this baby is going to be so important, because it will be
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the future. lost a son. at the end of the day for sybrina fulton and tracy martin and the parents of trayvon martin, it's that simple and sad. the jury's decision may add to the burden, the country taking up the debate will ease it a little but nothing changes the ache of absence, the ache all parents after losing a child. few parents see their child as a predator or have so many people define him to fit their agenda, whatever that agenda may be. so tonight, as we talk about all the greater implications of death of trayvon martin, we don't want to lose sight of the simple fact that a mother and father have lost a son. joining me now is sybrina fulton, tracy martin and benjamin crump. thank you for being with us. first of all, how are you holding up? >> it's difficult but i'm taking
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