i can't control life. >> jill >> the thing that made me a good broadcaster was, i controlled it. i can't control life. >> if you've seen the show "archer," you show how amazing she is. she's got her own podcast, which is awesome. how did you find the time to be here? aisha tyler is going to be here. >> here i am. look at that photo. that's unacceptable. >> plus, men grappling with other men so that other men can cheer them on. ultimate fighting and the map in charge of it all, dana white. >> before a guy hit a ball with a stick or threw a ball through a stickle, two men were put on this planet, somebody threw a punch and whoever was standing around ran over and watched. you know it happened. good evening.

i hope you had a beautiful day, wherever you are. and however you experienced it today. i think you're going to like the program tonight. everybody that is sitting across from me in this chair fought to not have themselves defined by their circumstance. everything from race to class to home life, to poverty, gangsterism, judgment from outsiders. and it's a nice experience to go inside people's lives that way, especially when you're younger and you don't know a lot of what happens around the world because you don't have a lot of experience and you need to build empathy. i remember when i was a kid i read a book "when you're from brooklyn, everything else is tk." the cat who wrote that book, not an actual cat, but a legend, larry king. larry is on his way out. here's his story. you're watching cnn, which means you know who larry king is and why people care about him. he was born right in the middle

of the great depression, in brooklyn. he idolized his father, so you can imagine the pain and loss when he was only 9 years old and he arrived home to find a squad car in front of his house. his father died of a heart attack. larry's wife changed significantly after that. he had dreams, not like other kids in his neighborhood. they all wanted to play pro baseball. now, larry, he just wanted to play by play pro baseball. 1956, acting on a tip, larry moved to miami beach, goes door to door, begging for a job. he gets one and he did something a little different. he opened the phones, took phone calls from regular citizens. >> hello, san diego, hello. >> and it wasn't long before he came a national figure. and for the past 50 plus years, despite hardships, personal vice and a colorful romantic life, larry has become an

iconic american personality. tonight you'll see him where he feels most comfortable, on cnn. [ applause ] larry king! [ cheers and applause ] >> welcome. how are you, bud? >> super. great setup. congratulations. i love this. >> thank you. this is nice. >> really nice. >> thanks for having me on your show. >> i love you, george. especially sense you changed your name for television. >> totally. >> his real name is george clark. >> it was a liquor ad that got you to change your name. >> correct. my name is larry zeiger. it was 1957, my first big day on the air. the general manager called me in, and he said, what name are you going to use? i said larry zeiger. he said you can't use that. it's too ethnic, people won't remember, won't know how to spell it.

you've got to change your name. so three minutes to go on the air, and i'm having my name changed. and the "miami herald" was open, there was an ad for kings wholesale liquors. he said how about larry king? i said, that sounds good. >> what would you have said if he said how about larry liquors? >> i would have said anything. just to get on the air, man. then i legally changed it a couple years later. so it's locked in and no one can use. >> what an incredible shift in culture. zeiger is too ethnic, but there's a show called "stroumboulopoulos." when you left the cnn show, people thought, larry is just going to retire and have a good time and that's it. and almost right away -- >> it was a strange set of circumstances. one, i had a wonderful 25 1/2 years at cnn. we thought it would be a couple years run, ted turner signed me, and i had a great run, 25 1/2

years, but it was time. so i thought i would spend a lot of time with my kids. i have young kids, and they play baseball and go to games. it was just very nice. i missed it when big events happened. but then i went down to mexico city and spoke for carlos slim, who is the richest man in the world, and i found out he had been a fan of mine for years. he said, you can't retire. why don't we do something together? so my wife came up with the idea of era tv on the internet and we got distributed and it's been on for a year. just started our second year now in july. i'm back in the swim again. >> every time you try to get out, they pull you back in. >> every time. pacino kidded me about that. he lives a couple blocks from me. every time. but you do miss it. this is a disease. >> it's a thing, isn't it? >> it is. this camera thing is a disease. i love asking questions.

my curiosity, i can't explain it. when i was 9 years old, i get on a bus, and i say to the bus driver, why do you want to drive a bus? what kind of life is it? i'm the kind of person you don't want to sit next to on an airplane. i drive my kids crazy. what did you do today, what are you going? i don't know what that is. >> not that you're checking up on them. >> it's a desire to learn. >> 9 years old, that's a significant time of your life. >> my father died when i was 9 1/2, and they had lost a child before i was born, a 6-year-old boy died. so when i was born, my father really wrapped me in his arms. then i have a younger brother and he died suddenly of a heart attack on june 9, 1943, 70 years. i was 9 1/2. i changed a lot. i took it badly. death is a funny thing.

i took it then as leaving me. i took it that he deserted me. i did not go to the funeral. i did not cry. i was angry. i'm the head of the house, i'm 9 1/2 years old. you have responsibilities now. you have to watch out for your mother and take care of your brother. and now he left us penniless, we're on relief. new york city bought my first pair of glasses, new york city. an inspector came to look for what kind of food my mother was putting in the refrigerator, all this because he died. i was mad at him. and i carried that with me a long time. >> if you ever have a chance to reflect on your life -- >> i do a lot of that. i can't change it, but i reflect. for example, my three closest friends are still my three closest friends. >> from back then? >> right. two of them, we meet every day i have a bagel place here in beverly hills. we meet every day

in the morning and have breakfast, seven days a week. i take my kids to school, go to the bagel place. i have friends for life. i never forgot where i came from. i left brooklyn, but brooklyn never let me. it's still in my fabric. it's in my culture. each though i was poor, i had a great, great upbringing. >> you had a moment too when you were growing up and you had a kid when you were broke, you were at the end, right? >> i never thought i would get another job. i always had faith in myself. i just knew timing. i knew pace. i knew how to interview. i knew how to be funny. i loved working live. i like live much better than tape. i like happening. when an event happens and you're on top of it, there's an adrenaline flow that's unbelievable. >> once you've experienced those things, though, those big

moments, especially if they're tragic moments, you're not consciously processing it. but you're subconsciously processing it. >> i'm involved in it. like 9/11. we worked -- i worked for 73 consecutive nights, two weeks later i was at ground zero. the fire commissioner of the city of new york took me around through all that. i was at the burn center. we were right on top of that story, cnn's coverage was amazing. and you feel sadness, great sadness, but you never forget that you have a job to do. you have to ask the right questions. you're concerned, but you're not -- you still leave yourself out of it. i would never say, boy, i was horrified by this. come on. everybody was horrified. that's redundant. >> when you go home at 3:00 in the morning after processing that stuff, what are you feeling?

>> on tragedy? >> yeah. >> you feel sad, you feel down. but you're still involved. but you turn on the television and you want more. all you want is information. so i stay constantly involved. so even when i'm off, i'm on. >> stick around. more with larry right after this. [ applause ] what is the one thing that larry king is afraid of? find out, next. i want to make things more secure. [ whirring ] [ dog barks ] i want to treat more dogs. ♪ our business needs more cases. [ male announcer ] where do you want to take your business? i need help selling art. [ male announcer ] from broadband to web hosting to mobile apps, small business solutions from at&t have the security you need to get you there. call us. we can show you how at&t solutions can help you do what you do... even better. ♪ can help you do what you do... even better. in cities like charlotte,ing. atlanta, and chicago, we're revving people up to take a lap around the legendary nascar race track with drivers from the coca-cola racing family.

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>> we're back here with larry king. >> love your socks. >> thanks, man. they usually don't match. the surgeon general coop just passed away this year. what did that mean to you? >> he was a guest on my show in february of 1987.

we finished the show and he said to me, are you still smoking? i said yeah. he said, you know, you don't look good. okay, dr. coop. i go to do my radio show, and the guest says to me, are you okay? i said yeah. he says, you don't look good. i went home and i started to get a pain and the pain was in my shoulder, never in the chest, going down the arm. i called the doctor like 5:00 in the morning and he says, go to the emergency room. so i called my producer. she picked me up and drives me to george washington university hospital. and i'm pulling in, and naturally the pain stops. i was smoking all the way to the hospital. oh, yeah. i said i'm okay now. she said well, we're here, go into the emergency room. so this guy comes up to me and says, are you okay?

yeah, i feel good now. he says you don't look good. come with me. he took me right in, and they put me in this room and this guy comes in and he's doing tests with me, and the doctor says to me, i'm going to stay with you. you're not in pain now, but i'm going to sit here with you. >> when you hear doctors say that, what is going through your mind? >> what the hell is going on? i don't like this. why is he staying with me? i feel fine. they're doing these tests. suddenly i get a little pain again, and little lights go on called blue code. the doctor comes running towards me and nurses are running behind him and says, you're having a heart attack. and i said, am i going to live? and his answer was, we don't know. the next 24 hours will tell. and turned out to be a right side heart attack and i recovered, went home. i stopped smoking that day. i never stopped before. people tell me stop smoking, i

never stopped. when you get scared, as that day in that hospital, i never reached for one. i smoked three packs a day, but i never reached for one, i never had a need for one. driving home, my daughter drove me home. cigarettes were in my pocket. i threw them into the potomac, and i never smoked again. [ applause ] six months later, wound up having bypass surgery 27 years ago. the surgery story is funny. in retrospect. i'm in the hospital, new york hospital -- first, they tell me you need bypass surgery. i'm living in washington. i said i want to do it in new york, because i want to die in new york. i had no faith. i true up in new york, i want to die in new york. so i go to new york, i will never forget this, it's a rainy morning, i'm going to have surgery the next day.

it's a sunday morning. we walk to the hospital, and waiting in the lobby is the president of new york hospital and governor cuomo, who is a friend of mine. they said, you don't have to check in, we'll take you right up to the 15th floor. i went up the special elevator and i go into the hospital room, overlooking the east river, wood panelling. the only thing that told you it was a hospital was the hospital bed. other than that it could have been a hotel suite. magnificent room. i said to the doctor, he says, mr. king, i want you to know this is our finest room. the shah of iran stayed in this room. i said to him, i recollect he died. why don't you put me in a ward with 48 people where they all go home? now i'm in bed, the surgery is the next day, and my surgeon, who i have not met, who did david letterman, walter cronkite. did a lot of famous people. he's from texas.

he walks in the door, he's got the boots, cowboy hat and of course, he goes, you're going to do right fine, right fine. i looked at the film, you're going to do right fine. i discovered that day all heart surgeons are either jewish or from texas. there is no protestant heart surgeon from south dakota. so he comes over to me and starts to do all the things all doctors do, the two fingers. that's the first thing you learn in medical school. they don't know what they're doing, you just learn to tap. he's tapping and i look down, he has no right thumb. my surgeon has no right thumb. what do you say in that moment? >> i don't know, what did you say? >> i said, doc, i have had this incredible habit all my life, i can't explain it, but when i meet people, i count their fingers. and with you, i get to nine.

and he explained they had a sheering accident, his mother accidently cut off his thumb and made him a better doctor. made him ambidextrous. but i recovered from that. >> did you feel like you had a new lease on life? >> sure you did. >> when the doctor said you're having a heart attack, did you think of your father >> that's the first thing i thought of. naturally, and it is genetic. every june 9, i used to think i was going to die. >> a lot of weight to carry. >> death is final. >> let me ask you a question, larry. you're not old, but you are not 22 anymore. when that day approaches now, what do you think? >> i don't want it to approach. i don't want to die, because i don't believe you're going anywhere. my wife is a devout mormon. mormons believe you go to the other side. maybe i'm too into the world and interviewing, i've met all the religious leaders and they've never given me the answer to one

essential question, why the holocaust? why katrina? god could have prevented katrina, right? omnipotent. why? and they always answer, we don't question the ways of the lord. well, i'm a questioner. if there is a lord and i met him, i would say why. why do children die. life isn't fair. i'm amazed at people who believe. if i totally believe death wouldn't bother me at all. but i can't make that leap. >> do you have fear about dieing? >> you bet your ass. sure. to not exist. >> the consciousness going away. >> not exist? as woody allen says, i'm not afraid of death. i just want to be there when it happens. >> what a pleasure, man. thank you so much. larry king, everybody.

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we're back here on the show. the next guest has had quite a life. calls herself a nerd. when you see her, you'll think, how is that possible? but that's how she identifies it. you may have seen her on "talk soup." if you're like me and you love the show "archer," you know the wonderful work she does as lana cane. she's a standup and a writer and she has a new show called "who's line is it any way?" there's a lot to her story. talking about aisha tyler.

>> if i could leave my wife for any one woman on the planet, i would leave her for aisha tyler. she has everything. >> she's in a lot of different shows. but she's doing her thing. >> i remember her on "friends." >> i've seen her on "csi." >> "24." >> "nip tuck." >> she's been on everything. >> i love the show "archer." >> i don't know which is better, the animated version or the real version. >> now she's on "the talk." >> aisha tyler is so versatile. that's what i admire most about her. >> please welcome aisha tyler! [ applause ] >> george! >> how are you? >> i'm fine. how are you? >> good to see you. >> so happy to be here. >> lovely to see you. >> it is lovely to see you. >> this "archer" thing is kind of out of control. >> yeah. >> when you get scripts for this, you don't read it in the room with everybody else, right? >> we record it on our own and they chop it up.

we don't see each other more than a few times a year. usually at comic-con and because we don't see each other that much, when we get together, we turn into a version of our show characters. that's when i realized everybody gets drunk and somebody tazes somebody and there's a fight. yeah, that's pretty much the show. >> so the book is out. >> my book comes out july 9. then "whose line is it any way" july 15. >> and the girl that was the outsider is a kid is no longer. >> well, i don't know i just went to an event recently with sharon osbourne. it was a fund raiser for m.d. and i'm sitting at a table with sharon and rod stewart and all these dignitaries. and i remember sitting next to rod stewart and i thought wow, i

don't belong here. someone is going to come up and stay this isn't your seat. you need to maybe go back and make a sandwich for somebody. that's still how i feel. i don't feel -- i love what i do, and i'm really focused on making interesting art and trying to speak to the other outsiders like me who feel like there's nobody -- you look at hollywood, and it seems everybody is perfect there. and part of my job is to be the voice for the people who still feel like outsiders. >> i want to carry this conversation on, but people at home are saying this is a beautiful girl sitting across from you. how do you feel like the outsider? why do you feel like the outsider? >> i don't know if you have any photos. >> as a matter of fact. >> oh, no. there i am. look at that photo. that's unacceptable. look at those glasses. they're like a time machine.

check tout casio watch. who wants to add some numbers together? i'm six feet tall. i've been this tall sense i was like 8. i'm not even joking. i was blackzilla. and i was also the only black kid in my school until like middle school. and then switched schools and was the only black kid for a little while. i went to private school for a while, my parents kind of ran out of money, and then they were these hippies, they were vegetarians. they didn't believe in television. we were poor. my mother got our clothes out of the free box at church. so much of a kid is what you relate to on tv. who's got the cool new shoes and let's trade lunches. and i was like, i don't have a television. i have a rock and a piece of tofu. and one of the shoes is made out of a t-shirt and duct cape, the other is a flip-flop. at the time it sucked because i very much felt like a loner.

but that kind of lonership made me i think like a tougher adult. when you're a kid, things just suck and you wish you were cooler. but when you're grown up, it makes you more interesting. >> you went to private school, but not because there was wealth, but because your folks worked hard. >> my mom was a school teacher and i went to the school she taught at. my dad, he was a construction worker, he was a butcher, a deep sea fisherman. when i was in high school, he decided to go back to school to become an operating engineer, those guys that operate if big canes. but there's a lot of math and trig, and so there was this period when i was helping my dad with his math homework. and my dad is like a old school man, he comes from the old country, as you would say, pittsburgh.

my dad asking me for help is extraordinary. >> this is her and her pops. it's a great shot. >> look at my dad. he's action jackson. >> what is the best line of that movie, now you're pissing me off. >> here is what my dad -- my dad is such a guy's guy. my parents divorced when i was like 10. >> so you went with your dad and your sister went with your mother? >> yeah, that's how poor people divorce. rich people are like, you have them on the weekends and i'll take them to the islands over the summer. my parents are like, neither of us can afford two children. my father is like, which one can care for itself? which one bathes by now? he is a motivational dad and has no boundaries. he would give me these speeches like in the morning when i was

going to school. he would said, whose day is it? it's my day. what are you going to do with it? grab it by the balls? that's not how you talk when you were 8 years old. >> your first boyfriends must have hated your dad. >> it was my father gearing me up to go on a date and just physically abuse whatever guy tried to come on to me. >> stick around. more with aisha right after this. girls, gaming, and nerding out. aisha tyler next. t to make thins more secure. [ whirring ] [ dog barks ] i want to treat more dogs. ♪ our business needs more cases. [ male announcer ] where do you want to take your business? i need help selling art. [ male announcer ] from broadband to web hosting to mobile apps, small business solutions from at&t have the security you need to get you there. call us. we can show you how at&t solutions

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[ applause ] welcome back to the program. aisha tyler is hanging out with us. let's run through a bunch of these. talk about girls and gaming. >> the largest component, the biggest growing component of new gamers is the female component. many more women are gaming. i go to the big gaming conferences here in l.a. and i was just there. i presented the new lineup of games for this gaming company. afterwards, a lot of people online said she doesn't even play. she's just a stupid actress. she's never picked up a controller in her life. cheato fingers, in my mom's basement. that parochial kind of, i'm going to tell you who belongs has been the thing i've hated my whole life. the idea you're only cool if you're like this, you're only popular if you're like this. even outsiders, which the gaming

community tends to be nerds have decided they're going to push other people out of their group. which i think is up acceptable. so i said something about a game platform. and they said you don't know what you're talking about. and i'm like, i'm just a gamer. don't take anything i say as gospel. first of all, shower, then read something. you know what i mean? >> you're so scrappy. >> i'll punch you in the neck, i'm not messing around. but it's a misunderstood community. a lot of people try to control how you act, trying to prevent people from buying games. they're saying games are making people do things. >> they're worried about the violence. >> i think it's fair to be concerned about the violence in games, but in the end, it's entertainment. like any other entertainment, i love action movies. i've seen "die hard" 50 times. my first movie my father took me to see was "mad max." super inappropriate for an 8-year-old.

>> my dad took me to see "the brood." a david croningberg film. >> i wouldn't be scared. it's like, what is happening? every time i watch a croningberg movie, it's like, did that guy just make a gun out of his tooth? but i've always loved that stuff, and it hasn't made me a violent person. >> social change is not new for you. you seem to care about this stuff. and always have. >> if you've ever seen like "glee" or the competition shows, all of the east coast colleges have this apella groups, so we -- the school i went to, that was a big culture there. and i couldn't get into any of the old kind of venerable ones. so we started one. and they were called the roccapellas. >> why couldn't you get? >> didn't have the right clothes, wasn't the right sorority. >> when you were there, did they look around you and go, that's a black girl, did you feel that?

>> i've always felt that. >> but in those schools, you had that experience? >> yes and no. what i will say is when i was younger, i stood out and what i -- rather than trying to hide it, i just decided to have that be like my emblem, my oddity. so it wasn't like i chose things to be strange, i just decided to embrace my strangeness. so i listen to punk rock. i skated. i took up snowboarding in high school. my first concert was black flag. yeah, baby. i just -- i'm going to be okay with my weirdness and by the time i got to dartmouth, i was a competitive snowboarding. then it was like, look at the weird black girl. where did she come from? >> when you knew your folks had to work hard to get you this kind of education, did you feel a weight?

>> absolutely. yeah. and it was fun to call my parents and say, thanks for the ivy league degree, and i've decided to be a comedian. and my mother said, is that a kind of doctor? because if it's not, i'm going to kill you. how would you like to be buried, cremated, thrown into a river? but, you know, one thing about my parents and my mother, she's always said this, she's so excellent. he was a painter, an artist, and she's a jazz singer. her art, she had to put it down to be a mom, but now that she's older, she performs all over. she's incredible. she was like, i'm just not going to be a dream killer, you know what i mean? you don't belong to me. and she said, i would always hate parents to try to force their kids to do what they

wanted. you're just here for a short period of time and you better go for it. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. [ applause ] >> aisha tyler, everybody. we'll be right back. who is the toughest guy in the world? dana white knows, and he's next. . in cities like charlotte, atlanta, and chicago, we're revving people up to take a lap around the legendary nascar race track with drivers from the coca-cola racing family. coca-coca family track walks give thousands of race fans the chance to get out, get moving, and have fun... all along the way. it's part of our goal to inspire more than three million people to rediscover the joy of being active this summer. see the difference all of us can make... together.

saving time by booking an appointment online, even smarter. online scheduling. available now at meineke.com. welcome back to the program. i love talking to the next guy who is coming out, because all you want out of somebody you sit across from in any part of life is they say what they think.

there's a quote from that show, dana white said, i'm going to outwork you, i'm going to stay up later than you, and i'm going to beat you. if you're not willing to do that, you're never going to "f"-ing beat me, ever. the president of ufc, an electrifying force, it is brutal and popular. a lot to talk about. dana white, everybody. [ applause ] thank you for coming on. i was at the first ufc in montreal, and it was wild. when you walk into a new market, what do you think you're going to get out of this? >> well, a lot of people watch the ufc on television. it's great. one of the cool things about this sport is it works very well on tv, but the live event is one of the -- you know, i don't know

how many people have ever been to an nfl game. i love watching the nfl on tv. i went to a patriots game once, bumper to bumper traffic both ways, i'm sitting on a bench, it's zero out. i've got some fat guy painted red, white, blue, with no shirt on spilling beer on me. the experience wasn't as good as it was in my living room. the ufc is the opposite. when you go to one of these events, it's the most exciting live sports events you'll ever see. >> that's the challenge for all sports organizations. tv is improving. how do you change the live event? ultimately, you still have an octagon in the middle of the room. and all these people piled around it. how do you create that? >> the people that go to the event are spending a lot more than those who watch it on television. they flew in from somewhere, they stayed somewhere, they paid for everything. why would you not care about the people who pay for tickets? that was always my philosophy. so we have two different

producers. we produce an in-house show and a television show. we put up huge screens so people can see everywhere. you can see what's going on in there. but at the end of the day, it's all about the fight. we have to make sure we put on great fights. that's wh people want to see. >> when it first started, so much of the focus was on individual fighting styles. what is the challenge of a sport that is a couple decades in? >> when it started, the first-ever ufc where a karate guy beat a kung fu guy, they created a sport and advanced martial arts more since 1993 then it has in the last 10,000 years. the answer is, no one fighting style was the best. you had to have a piece of everything to be a complete fighting. that's when mixed martial arts was born. and not just the sport. it is the new martial art. it's the martial art that men and women are taking all over the world. what's happening now is, now

that there's a lot of money in it, athletes that would have played other sports, whether basketball, football, whatever it might be, are now getting into mixed martial arts. so the level of competition keeps getting better and better. >> for me when i was a kid, it was about this guy right here. >> empty your mind. be shapeless, like water. you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. >> the wonderful bruce lee. >> growing up, i was very much into martial arts because of bruce lee. i always believed that fighting was the first sport ever on earth, before a guy hit a ball with a stick, two men were put on this planet, somebody threw a punch and whoever standing around ran over and watched. you know it happened. >> and then the next thing was the betting on it. >> this works everywhere, because it doesn't matter your color, what country or language

you speak, we're all human beings. fighting is in our dna. we get it and we like it. you know what it mean? it doesn't have to be explained to anybody. i always say, if you go to india, the one thing that works everywhere, if you ask anybody, do you know who mike tyson is? everybody knows him. muhammad ali. bruce lee died in 1972 and whatever and people still know who he is. we're fascinated by who the toughest guy in the world is. >> it is the international sport in a lot of ways. what has the international influence meant to your game? how do you work that international part to it? >> we're in 175 countries and 23 different languages and over 1 billion homes worldwide on television. as we go into the other markets, it's about building stars. like your manny pacquio from the philippines, and we're doing that with the ultimate fighter. >> i've never seen a person have an honest dialogue about the stars in your league.

i was reading something that rampage said, he said i don't think dana misses me. and he clearly said that to find out if you miss him. >> i miss you, rampage. >> do you miss rampage? >> he always said, when dana was talking about me not making weight -- >> you ripped him. >> yeah. so in the fight business, making weight is your job. you have to -- to be able to put on the fight, if we're going to fight and come in at 185 pounds, we both have to come in at 185 pounds. i was upset about him not making weight and i questioned whether he still wanted to compete in this sport or not. >> where does that come in you, that guy? >> when i grew up, you know, and when you were watching sports, these guys would come out and read these canned statements that lawyers wrote. that's not how i operate. i'm going to tell you how i think.

the one good thing is, you don't have to wonder where you stand with me. >> you had to fight your whole life in so many different ways, just to get here. when you make it, you don't automatically lose the fight. what is it like to manage that rage, whatever it is you have? >> anybody who has ever built a successful business, it's never over. every day there's new battles to fight. there's never that day where you're like, we're here. >> one can work too hard. >> i don't believe that. >> i mean, life, family and life. >> yeah, you have to -- listen, i'm very blessed that i get to provide the things for my family that i do. my kids go to a great school. i don't miss anything that my kids do. if my kids are playing football, if they're at a school performance, whatever it is, if i'm out of town and i can't go, i have the biggest production facility in las vegas. we stream it live to me, and i watch it on tv.

>> that's incredible. how into this sport are they? >> you know, my kids are into the sport. but my kids are huge football fans. they love football. so it's turned me into a fig football guy. whatever your kids are into, you get into. if your kid was the best finger painter ever, you would be the biggest fan ever. >> more with dana white right after this. [ applause ] dana white's run-in with whitey bulger, that's after the break. [ whirring ] [ dog barks ] i want to treat more dogs. ♪ our business needs more cases. [ male announcer ] where do you want to take your business? i need help selling art. [ male announcer ] from broadband to web hosting to mobile apps, small business solutions from at&t have the security you need to get you there. call us. we can show you how at&t solutions can help you do what you do... even better. ♪ can help you do what you do... even better. hey, thanks for stopping by. you know, i've followed your character

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welcome back to the program. hanging out with dana white here. at some point you have to be responsible for how their well-being is. the nfl pays attention, the nhl in terms of concussions and injuries and stuff. >> what's funny is, i've been ridiculed for that by fans and the media. you always saw in boxing the guy that hung around too long and didn't retire. when it starts to happen to these guys, i want them to retire. >> you have a union that helps prepare these guys for the end of their career. what is the ufc doing for that? >> we're the only fight promo promoters in the history of the world who has health insurance for fighters. because they live in this band different from boxing, we have t-shirts, action figures, video games and the fighters get a piece of that.

even when they retire, it's not like you wouldn't want a chuck liddell action figure or chuck liddell to be in the video game. so these guys live forever inside this brand. >> is it the sports to take care of its retired stars? >> it's tough to say. when you have grown men that made $35, $40 million and they're broke? you look at the league and say what does the league do? i can't tell you how to spend your money. if you're going to blow $35 million, i don't know what to tell you. >> what is the biggest challenge so far in terms of international growth? >> the biggest challenge that we have right now is time. there's not enough time in the day to do all the things that need to be done. and we're just doing the best that we can. >> one can work too hard. >> i don't believe that. >> i mean, life, family and life. >> listen, i don't miss anything that my kids do.

if my kids are playing football, if they're at a school performance, if i'm out of town and i can't go, i have the biggest production facility in las vegas. they stream it live to me and i watch it live. >> that's incredible. >> yeah. >> we heard about your story that you had to leave and you owed some money to guys and you left town and it was whitey bulger. >> just to clarify, i didn't owe the mob money. i used to live in south boston in the late '80s and it was run by whitey bulger. the town was run for 50, 60 years by organized crime. and i had a boxing program there, and one day i was teaching and two guys showed up and said i owed them $2500. i was 21 years i would. you might well ask me for $25,000. i got a call one day and they said you have until 1:00 tomorrow to give us the money.

i said okay, i hung up the phone. i called delta. i said, get me a flight out of here like now. i left that day. i had an apartment there. i left everything. everything. i packed my favorite clothes, left my furniture, stereo. >> did you ever go back to get any of that stuff? >> all gone. >> there's got to be like a dana white museum somewhere. >> you get into fights people, there's one guy you're fighting with in canada all the time? >> it's fun. i like to fight with these guys on twitter. it's fun. gives me something to do. >> ever go too far? >> no. probably. but no. i don't think so. here's the thing, if another person says something stupid to me, get ready, because something stupid is coming right back. >> dana white, everybody. hope you had a wonderful night. see you next week. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com

tonight the interview everyone is still talking about, my one on one with the star witness of the george zimmerman trial, rachel jeantel. >> racial, let's be honest, racial. >> a combatted teenager. >> are you listening? i had told you are you listening? >> you got to see this. what is your view of george zimmerman? >> weak. scary. >> rachel jeantel answers every question i put to her. she even answers questions from the studio audience. >> do you feel that your testimony strongly impacted the case at all? >> yes. >> in a negative way? >> no. it might have said whyhe