hello, everyone. nice to have you with us on this friday morning. i'm pamela brown in for ashley ban peeled. very busy news day today. we want to start with the end of the ordeal for leo owe women held captive for a decade who now won't have to testify in the case against their captor. we got our first glimpse of michelle mite, amanda berry when they released a youtube video thanking people all over the world for the you pouring of

support. as you remember, their time in captivity ended with this phone call. >> i have been kidnapped and i have been missing for ten years. i'm here. i'm free now. >> the victimnot want to have to testify at the trial of ariel castro. the fan facing 957 charges in this case including kidnapping and rape. now thanks to a plea deal accepted moments ago, they will not have to testify. we want top bring in our legal panel. we have jeff green with us now. defend attorney. and former prosecutor. jeff gold, sorry. nice to have you here with us. let's get your reaction to this plea deal. what do you think of it? >> i think it is great. i think that the worst possible thing would be to hold these victims hostage more. have them -- have to appear at trial and testify. and relive that ordeal.

the prosecutor has gotten everything that it would get at a trial. capital case would have been very difficult for the state under ohio law. castro is pleading to a thousand years and making it very clear on the record he will never get out. judge is dotting his is and crossing his ts. lit not be apeopled. it is a great day for the victims if possible after that great ordeal, they could have a good day. at least the ordeal will be over soon. >> let's just take a moment and actually listen to ariel castro pleading guilty. take a listen. >> prisoner serving a sentence of life in prison without parole, 292903 is not eligible for parole. will not receive parole. and will be in prison until death. do you understand this? >> yes, i do, your honor. >> do you believe for any reason you will be released from prison before you die of natural causes? >> excuse me? >> do you think there is any hope you may be getting -- any

hope you will be getting out of p prison? >> no. >> do you understand -- >> that was one of my concerns with my attorneys. they assured me that nothing is going to change. >> all right. you understand. you will be in prison for life. you don't have the expectation for the hope of getting out. is that clear? >> i understand that, your honor. >> so, jeff, listening to him, i was struck as how different he seemed compared to the other hearings. before when he would appear, his head down, wouldn't make eye contact. today he seemed more at peace. he spoke and said -- talked about his sexual problems and talked about telling the fbi everything from the beginning. as cnn reported from the beginning, that he had confessed to authorities. he just was more outspoken today and seemed more relax. what do you make of his appearance? >> well, he has been talking about this plea deal with his lawyers.

it is something his lawyers were actively seeking. as far as he's concerned, he's not going to get the death penalty. that's for sure. i think think it was clear based on the facts of the case he would always spend the rest of his life in prison. for him, it is a win. for the state, as i said before, it is a win. i think she comfortable with it. having spoken with the lawyers. not something you talk to your client about. you know, two minutes before. it is something that he has been talking to his lawyers about all along. he is at peace with it. >> in many way it is plea deal is not surprising. you look at the charges he was facing. 977 charges. what do you think the strategy was here from the prosecution's side? >> first of all, prosecutors always overcharge. that's just what they do. they charge everything they possibly can. because most cases in america are, in fact, plea agreements. sometimes the public, you know, doesn't realize that because they see a lot of trials on tv. that's what the media tends to cover.

but in reality, 98% of all cases in america are plea bargains to some degree. that gives the prosecutor flexibility to throw out charges. in this case the defendant pled to every charge. the prosecutor said on the record he was merging, 40 charges that were really part of other charges anyway. and that even if convicted at a trial, a judge would have to have thrown them out lou a doctrine called merger. they go together. in essence, the defendant pled guilty to every single charge. that's to make darned sure the thousand years will stick. >> for to distinguish he was facing 977 charges. 937. as i mentioned, i have been covering the case from the beginning. i know these women did not want to testify. they are still healing. what do you think this does for them? this plea deal does for them? do you think it is closure of some sort? what's your view? >> absolutely. as i said before, i mean, take a look at cases we have seen

recently. look at the travis alexander family. having to go lou 3 1/2 months of a trial plus. now facing another trial on the death penalty again. having to relive it. having to go into court and hear their family member, you know, made to be seen as if he was the villain in the case. here these victims have been held hostage long enough. i would -- wholeheartedly agree with them, their lawyers, the prosecutors in this case. if this case could be resolved now, by the defendant agreeing to what the most likely result would be at the end of a trial, which is that he will never get out of prison, that's a good result. i am sure they are very relieved. >> i just want to mention, i got a text from the women's attorney, and he said a statement, a written statement, will be released right after this hearing. of course, we are going to keep an eye on that. mo ivory, does this end tier,

life in prison without parole for castro, or do you think -- perhaps a civil case? >> perhaps there could be a civil case. i'm not really sure the women are interested in that. i think what they want is closure. i think that this -- him agreeing to this gives them a little bit of that in the sense they know he will never be out again ever. this is the best way to justice system could have handled this and would you please spending a lot of money prosecuting this man that has done -- atrocities. i don't -- i'm not sure that the women feel that they could gain anything from that now. maybe -- maybe if they can figure out from other -- another way to go after other assets we don't know about. i'm not sure they want to do. it hasn't seemed that way. these women, i am so proud of them for the way they have handled this. i hope that this acceptance of this plea brings them some closure, gives them some release and helps them move forward. >> it is incredible. you mentioned that -- just learn being all the horrific details that these young women went through and to see that youtube

video see how they are healing, trying to move forward with their life and keep a positive attitude. it is indecreed i will. truly incredible. stick around. we want you to weigh in on a few other legal discussions. including what we are hearing from another one of the jurors in the george zimmerman trial. let's move on to other top stories today. 31 people remain in critical condition this mornings as a result of this train crash in northwestern spain. 80 people were killed. the investigation is focusing on the train's speed white crashed. the driver seen here bloodied, run out to the crash. now in police custody. police superintendent says his, quote, recklessness caused the accident. we now know more this morning about what may have caused the crash landing of the southwest jet airline's jet a la guardia airport. the nose wheel hit the runway first instead of the wheels under the wings is normal procedure. that hard impact caused the nose

wheel to collapse. burton will plead guilty to destroying evidence in the oil disaster. the company threw out test results pertaining to the rig league. halliburton will pay a $200,000 fine and be subject to three years probation. vandals plattered the lincoln memorial with green paint overnight. visitor found the damage early this morning and reportedility to police. police are reviewing surveillance footage. so far release nod information. monument will be closed to visitors until the paint is all cleaned up. officials are hopeful it will reopen sometime later today. attorney general eric holder has been talking to his russian counterpart about edward snowden. we will talk to you about what he is saying right after thing break. we are also going to have our legal panel weigh in. stay with us. we will be right back. ♪

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wrote a letter, in fact, this letter, to the russian minister of justice confirming that edward snowden will not face the death penalty and will not be tortured if he -- returns to the united states. this is a no-brainer for those of us in the u.s. snowden has suggested those things may happen to him. so the ag felt it necessary to put all of this down on paper. the letter essentially states what we already know to be fact. that the charges against snowden are not death penalty eligible. and torture is illegal in the united states. the importance of this is that snowden has applied for temporary asylum in russia on grounds that he might be tortured or subject to the death beenalty. holder says that the assurances, he is now given, essentially eliminates snowden's claim he hub treated as a refugee. >> is this unusual? >> i don't think it is -- that unusual but then -- again, circumstances are extremely unusual. there is a negotiation or at least there has been as to

whether snowden will be granted asylum in russia or return to the united states. so as part of all of that, the united states wants to at least put on record that nothing extraordinary is going to happen to snowden should he be returning to the united states and to face charges under the espionage act. >> joe johns, thank you so much. another juror from the zimmerman trial speaking out and she's not happy about the verdict. >> george zimmerman got away with murder. you about you can't get away from god. >> we will have more of that interview for you right after this break. my mantra? trust your instincts to make the call. to treat my low testosterone, my doctor and i went with axiron,

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juror voted to acquit george zimmerman in the murder of trayvon martin says she regrets verdict. according to abc, juror b-29 is a 36-year-old puerto rican woman identified only as mady. we know from jury selection she is a mother of eight children and moved from chicago to florida. she works in a nursing home as a certified nursing assistant. she told abc she wanted to convict zimmerman of

second-degree murder but the law made it impossible. >> george zimmerman got away with murder. but you can't get away from god. >> reporter: anguished and apologetic. the juror going by the name maddy told abc's robin roberts she favored convicting george zimmerman of second-degree murder. >> i'm the only minority and i felt like i let a lot of people down. >> reporter: maddy says it was the interpretation of the law that led them to acquitting zimmerman. >> for myself, he's guilty. as the law was read to me, if you have no proof that he killed him intentionally, you can't find -- you can't say he's guilty. >> reporter: anderson cooper spoke exclusively to juror b-37 soon after the verdict about how they got to a not guilty verdict. >> after hours and hours and hours of deliberating over the lay and reading it over and over and over again, we decided

there's just no way -- other place go. >> reporter: after more than 16 hours of deliberations, maddy says she struggled with the proof to convict. >> how did you go from in nine hours from feeling he was guilty of second-degree murder to not guilty? >> it was hard. a lot of us wanted to find something bad, something that we could connect to the law. >> reporter: maddy concedes she still struggles with the verdict and public outcry that followed. >> i fell on my mes and my husband was hold me and i was screaming and crying. i kept saying to myself i feel that i killed him. >> what would you like to say to trayvon's parents? >> i would like to apologize because i feel like i let them down. >> trayvon martin's mother was crushed by the juror's confession and said this. it is devastating for my family

to hear the comments from juror b-29. comments which we already knew in our hearts to be true. that george zimmerman literally got away with murder. sybrina fulton is scheduled to speak at moon. let's bring in our legal panel to discuss this. attorneys mo ivory and jeff gold and ryan smith. nice to see you three here. mea culpa is not exactly what you expect to hear from a juror. she clearly feels like she owes an apology to martin's family. does she? >> absolutely. and this is so hard for me because i -- i feel so -- i'm so emotional about the verdict. i don't apologize for that emotional connection at all. the legal side of me understands her conflict. but i also felt like she was very much bullied by b-37 in that deliberation. i do feel like she could have been that one vote that came -- you know, made it a hung jury

which would have given the ability to retry george zimmerman. i feel like she caved. part of me is very upset with her. i think the apologies after are empty apologies. then i understand her to be a mother of eight and i feel very sympathetic towards her pain because i know that it is real. i know her apology to trayvon's parents is real. i'm angry with her for not being strong enough to go against the bullies, five others, especially b-37, where she could have been the deciding vote to retry him and maybe the verdict would be different. >> but, mo, all fairness here, to the jurors, it was clear they -- they took their job very seriously. they went into that room, deliberated and looked at that law. isn't that what they are supposed to do to put their emotions aside, emotions aside, look at the law, make that decision based on the law? by the way, there were other jurors who came in and wanted to find him guilty of manslaughter. they also changed their minds. >> two others. >> wasn't she doing her job

here? do you think think she was bullied? >> i think a little bit of both. i think absolutely that it is the job to go in will and look at the law. how often does that happen? they are people and have emotions and considered things. some come harder and some come less, you know, less strong. so you can't tell me that b-37 wasn't going in there with her ideas of what she wanted to happen. yes, i understand the law of it. i am not dismissing that. i am not dismissing the duty of a juror to look at the law and apply it. i do not want us to forget these are real people and they go in and think one way, they can come out completely differently and based on the personalities in the room. >> all right. jeff, let's go to you now. do you think the jurors had other choices under the law? do you think this was their only choice that they went with? >> i don't think that they had any choice. i sat in that courtroom for most of the trial. i watched this particular juror who really didn't pay that much attention compared to some of

the other jurors in my opinion. and i don't believe that she was bullied by the other jurors at all. i believe that this is a matter of buyer's remorse. that after the fact, she sees this as sort of black and white. no pun inp tended. and she feels she somehow let other people down in the community. i don't think that she expressed herself exactly as she meant when she said he got away with murder. i think she meant he got away with a killing. and that killing isn't a good thing and even though it wasn't illegal, god will take care of it. i think the media has taken her word, using murder, as if she meant something other than her actual words in the interview which was she had to do this under the law. after the fact, the protest is what the bullying is. >> hold on. mo, let me ask ryan this question. there has been outrage since the verdict. these jurors were sequestered. they had no idea what was going on. there were protests, president

obama spoke out about this. ryan, do you think the aftermath of the verdict might have contributed to her feeling this remorse and -- all this emotion and peeling so torn up more so than the verdict? what do you think? >> absolutely, i think it did. will are a couple of factors going on here. i was in the courtroom and saw most of the end of the case and closing. i saw her in that courtroom taking notes when the prosecution would make points on their power point. i thought she might be a voice for the prosecution in that jury room. what this shows you is the push and pull people feel. would like to say taking emotion out of it but it is impossible to take emotion out of a case when you have somebody who has died. i think that what happened here is -- you talk about the gut feeling people have in juries. she walked in there with a gut feeling that george zimmerman is guilty with something. but she looked at the law and talked to her other people there in the jury room and just felt the pull to go to the other side. also, let's not forget that a jury came back with a question

asking for spesfication on the manslaughter charge. the judge said, hey, come back with something specific and we will answer that question. never came back with anything. somewhere during that time period, there was some convincing going on in that jury as ma happens often and someone switched their position and she was one of them. she said that. >> jeff said that don't take her words that she didn't mean he got away with murder. yes, she did mean that. and he did. let's not say that her -- she wasn't saying what she meant. he did get away with murder. >> there have been -- >> got away with a killing. it wasn't murder. to say it was murder when the jury acquitted him is inappropriate. >> we have heard death lets against these jurors. again, they went in there and, as we saw, heard from two of them now. they ride on do their job best they can. what's your opinion about this? these jurors went in and did their job and now facing backlash. even if you disagree with the verdict. >> i think it is terrible. i don't think any of the jurors should be getting death threats. i don't think they should fear for their safety. they were asked to come to do

their civic duty. they did it. whether you agree with the verdict that they came with or not, doesn't mean their lives should be put in jeopardy or there should be any backlash from what verdict they did come back with. but -- it doesn't mean you have to agree with it. you don't also have to agree the law was applied evenly or done, you know, justifiably because -- >> point made. we hear you. we hear all three of you. we appreciate your ina signature and analysis. we respect all of your opinions and perspective. thank you. we will talk to a couple of you soon. next story may just shock you. south florida man left his 4-year-old daughter home alone with her teddy bear, arsenal of assault rifles and grenade. that story up next. [ driver ] e knew all about a bike accident, just by talking to a helmet. it grabbed the patient's record before we even picked him up. it found out the doctor we needed was at st. anne's. wiggle your toes. [ driver ] and it got his okay on treatment from miles away.

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>> keep it up and you will get arrested again. >> he says he owns the weapons legally and miami police are checking on that. custody hearing today will decide if the child was allowed to go back home. cnn did reach out to the attorney and still waiting for a response. let's get now to our legal team once again. attorney and radio host mo ivory. criminal key tense foreigner attorney jeff gold in philadelphia. let's start with you, jeff. do you think either parent will get custody today? should they? >> i don't know if they will get it today. custody was taken away quite rightfully. leaving your kid alone, that's pretty bad. when i was a prosecutor and i had a weapon, i used to -- even before i had kids i would keep the ammunition in separate places because i was so worried. then at some point i didn't keep any ammunition in the house. i took it to the range. this guy had grenades. they have to think seriously about where this guy's brain is. leaves the kid home alone, number one. then p the kid was in the house

alone with grenades, yeah, they have taken the kid away to do an evaluation now to see what should happen and that's the proper thing. >> mo, you know, are the laws in the books good enough, in your opinion, to protect kids in these -- these kinds of cases? we heard so many of kids getting their hands on their parents' weapons. you know that little girl is going to wind up back home at some point, if not today. >> it is very -- very disconcerting hearing this. i mean, a little girl to be in a house with all of those weapons and grenades. first of all, what is he doing with all those weapons in his house? i understand that the guns he did have legally but i'm very concerned about it. i hope that they take a long time to investigate this and the mother as well as the grand pear. because you want to understand this whole family environment and if the child is given to the mother will will the mother bring the child right back, grandfath grandfather, will he bring the child right back. i'm concerned and the laws on

the books don't go far enough to protect our children. that's why we continue to see these things happening over and over again. practice is a g-- florida is a gun-happy state. >> if you were representing him, do you think that's a good enough explanation? >> well, first of all, if i was representing him, i would say that this is not that connective of a case. leaving the child home and then the grenades are in the like in the same room at the same time. what is he doing with grenades? what's he -- you know, killing deer with grenades? why do we let people have grenades? why do we let them have grenades if they have kids? we institute make a law that says if they have kids, no grenades. how about that? >> all right. we will end on that note. you know. just to mention this is a little girl's 4th birthday. what a birthday. a shame. thank you so much. we will see you later on in

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those apples you have been buying, they were probably imported. that's right. half the fresh pruitt consumed by americans comes from overseas. it is 20% for fresh vegetables. 15% of the food we eat is imported. the past, it has been harder for the mood and drug administration to control the safety of imported foods but that could change with the announcement today of new safety mood proposals. the commissioner of the fda is joining us. nice to have you with us, dr. hamburg. >> thank you so much for having me, pamela. >> starting off here, let's talk about what these new

requirements entail and when they will go into effect. >> as you noted, the food supply for the united states is increasingly global in terms of where those products are coming from. this gives us for new tools. enables us to work with our partners, to require that will's foreign supplier verification the food being produced in other countries is, in fact, being grown and -- produced in accordance with our standards. it allows us to engage third parties and in doing audits, also assure that those same standards for food safety are being met. at the end of the day, this all matters so that we can help to better assure that the food that we all are put on our family's table is the safest and highest quality possible. >> essentially, dr. hamburg, this would allow the fad pad to be more proactive and preventing food safety issues before they

happen. especially with foods that are imported. is that right? >> well, we are trying to address lou historic piece of legislation that congress passed just a few years ago, food safety modernization act. we are trying to transform the food safety system to one that focuses on prevention, to stopping problems before they occur instead of just responding after the fact when there is an outbreak and recognizes that the food supply is global in nature. and that we can't just assume by looking at what's happening here at home, we are keeping the food supply safe and we can't really realistically just inspect foods as they come over the border because we are seeing millions of entries from more than 150 countries around the world. growing percentage of the mood we eat here is actually coming from other countries. >> obviously a key player in all of this are the -- foreign

importers bringing this food into the u.s. do you think they are ready to comply with these new regulations? these new procedures? >> right. we have been working with our partners in countries around the world to address some of the issues already. and this now will help us really systemtize some of the changes that need to be made. really clarify the standards that we expect for food that's coming into this country for american citizens to eat. i think, frankly, part of our mandate is not only to assure that the food coming this is safer but to work with other countries that have much less sophisticated systems for regulatory oversight in food supply, help them strengthen their capacity. in this way, everybody will benefit. >> so the fda does its job with protecting a mood that comes over here. what can the consumer do before they go to the store to buy food?

any tips? >> well, of course, consumers should always follow basic safety rules. you know. keep things that immediate to be refrigerated cold. should heat things, you know, meats and eggs and dashes especially to appropriate temperatures, to kill any possible bacteria. hand washing is always when preparing mood. >> if you immediate more information on that you can go to our website or the centers for disease control provides a lot of useful information for consumers. >> dr. hamburg, i can't let you go without touching on outbreak. any progress on the cause? >> this outbreak exemplifies how complex the food supply chain

is. we are now seeing cases in many states, we have seen 250 cases to date now mild limited for the most part. we still don't know for sure what the source is. we are working hard and working with the state. health authorities, and with our partners. and centers for disease control. it looks like it is probably coming from produce. we will keep you informed as we learn more. had is why we need to focus on food safety and strengthen our systems to prevent outbreaks from occurring in the first place and that's what we are trying to do. >> moving on, recently pepsi was hit with a $9 million lawsuit for its naked juice products. do you think this is a big win for consumers? >> well, i think that we

immediate to always be looking at how we can provide consumers with the most accurate information about the products they are consuminconsuming. obviously part of our job, we were talking about before to make sure that those products are as safe as possible. so that's what we are focusing on. when we do our for work to promote and protect public health. >> absolutely. thank you for coming on the show. have a great weekend. >> thank you. you, too. more women are accusing san diego's mayor of sexually harassing them. details are sounding like something out of a soap opera. ♪ [ acoustic guitar: upbeat ]

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counts 518 to 574 inclusive. counts 675 through 731 inclusive. and counts 824 through 880 inclusive, how do you plead to the charges of rape in each of those separate counts? >> i plead guilty. >> how do you plead -- >> you heard there he's pleading guilty to 937 charges. this means that he will spend the rest of his life in prison without parole plus another thousand years. this also means that the three victims who were held captive for more than ten years will not have to testify in court. moving along, we want to go to san diego. the flood gates are open as more women have come forward accusing mayor bob filner of sexual harassment. >> reporter: four more women came forward thursday to accuse san diego mayor bob fill mothne

sexual misconduct. >> bob stepped between me and the doorway and stopped me. he got fairly close to me. he ran his finger up my cheek like this. he whispered to me, do you have a man in your life? he would come in and try to kiss me on the lips. i would have to squirm to get away and just -- as recently as a few months ago this happened. i turned and he -- just slobbered down my chin and i was so violated. >> total of seven women have publicly accused filner of you wanted groping, kissing, headlocks. thursday filner showed up at a trolley station groundbreaking. why are you still keeping your job? for several minutes he walked aimlessly refusing to answer reporters' questions. >> is it a bad message you are not addressing these allegations directly now? >> reporter: filner admitted treating women badly but denies

sexual harassment. >> what do you have to say to these that have come forward and accused you of inappropriate behavior? >> there is a legal process which this will be decided and that's how he will be dealing with this. >> reporter: one woman filed a lawsuit while the mayor tries to make light of the controversy. >> i see you found a wonderful way to attract media attention for our efforts on the trolley. >> reporter: thursday night the democratic party voted to the urge mayor to step down. >> casey joins me now from san diego. it seems like mayor filner is the only one not calling for his resignation. a growing chorus of people wanting him to step down. is there any sense at this point that more women could come forward? >> that's certain lay possibility. two women ason in mounonymously

letter. they worked for him when he was a u.s. congressman and warning of these types of activities. certainly it is possible we could see more women come forward. we have also seen more pressure mounltding on mayor fill mother to step down. mounting a recall campaign and has plans do that. holding a news conference later today. it is re -- it really seems difficult how he is going to hold on to his job. right now he says he's not stepping down. >> he's digging in his heels about that. thank you. it could be separate from a tv drama. a woman conspire was her boss to kill her husband. but this case is not fiction.

prosecutors may drop the most serious charged levelled against a woman having her husband murdered. she conspired with her lover who was also her boss. she was convicted with murder last year. the d.a. says the case is circumstantial and there's no physical evidence. on our sister network one witness says he doesn't like what might happen. >> heard him walk away. i just don't see how that's even

fathomable. i couldn't imagine that even coming to pass. >> let's talk about this case now with the host of hln's evening express, ryan smith. he's right outside the courthouse where an important hearing is scheduled today. let's talk about the hearing and why it's so important to prosecutors. >> there will be a discussion about whether or not they can admit statements that the killer of rusty schneiderman made to melanie white, a friend of his. he sent her e-mails with talks about what he and andrea went back and forth on. here is the complicating factor. it's kind of hearsay. the question will be will it come in. hemy newman, is going to take the fifth. he's not going to testify because he's got an appeal pending. he was found guilty but not mentally healthy.

this is all very interesting when you talk about what could come in. the big question here is will the prosecutors decide today if they want to drop those murder charges. think about it this way. if she's found guilty of murder, she's looking at the possibility of life in prison without parole. if those charges go away, she's only facing perjury and she's being accused of lying to police. those things carry a penalty of five to ten years each. big difference if found guilty. >> that's got to be a tough pill to swallow. thank you for keeping us up to date with that story. how does a grandparent cope when their grand kids are dropped oen their doorstep and become their responsibility? that story is up next. and i need to run off to the bathroom. ♪ i'm fed up with always having to put my bladder's needs ahead of my daughter. ♪

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going to grandma's house is a time honored tradition. for many it's not just a visit. across the u.s. three million grandparents are raising their grand children. retirees forced to become parents begin. >> one day my daughter came to my door and she handed me three kids. she says here, mom. i'll call you later. it's seven years already. it changes your life. >> everything changed. at 60, wow. i have to raise this baby. how am i going to do it? >> does anybody have a crisis they want to talk about? >> for mother grandparents taking in the children it does

wreak havoc because many are living on fixed incomes and were not prepared to take on one or multiple children. i help grandparents with their grand children. >> this is my sister. >> when my sister was 27 she committed suicide and left an 8-year-old. this is kevin when he came to live with my parents. my parents were my inspiration. from a family tragedy something wonderful has happened. >> i know it may not feel like it but you are going to get passed this. when a family calls whether it's help with the school, finding a pediatrician, resources, we'll find a way to help you. >> all of a sudden i had things coming, clothes, food. they're like my therapy. >> she was able to walk me through everything. they helped me get on my feet where i could help myself. >> i want to introduce you to a

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