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thank you for bringing me where i am today. >> reporter: mark has come a long way to bathing gun show to showering with rebecca. >> remember one thing. >> reporter: new york. >> thanks for watching. george zimmerman in trouble with the law again. what he had in his glove compartment when police pulled him over. the nsa's deputy director faces tough questions about edward snowden today. the former head of the nsa out front to respond. what is going on at america's airports. more than 9,000 cases of misconduct by employees of the tsa. let's go outfront. the national security agency
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under fire again for its spying programs. today the obama administration declassified and released three documents outlining the phone and internet data collection programs. right before that agency's deputy director faced tough questions on capitol hill about edward snowden. >> for a 29-year-old school dropout to come in and take out massive, massive amounts of data, it is obvious that there weren't adequate controls. has anyone been fired? >> not yet. >> who double checked snowden? >> there are checks at multiple levels. >> obviously failed. >> outfront tonight general hayden who ran the nsa until 2005. thank you very much for being with us. i want to start with the back and forth that you heard there. obviously as you heard and
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nearly half a million private contractors have access to top secret classified information. that is a lot of nongovernment employees. in snowden's case there was a failure somewhere. should someone be fired? >> i don't know the fine print. you had the deputy director there today answering the senator's questions. i'm sure that chris took some questions for the record to get back to senator. i suggest it is not so much at the front end of the clearance process because this young man was cleared several years ago and perhaps didn't have those at that time. i think what we need is better monitoring of what goes on on our networks so that we can pick up almost in real time unusual and anomalous activity which would be someone downloading large volumes of information. >> absolutely. when you talk about snowden my understanding from sources is that he obtained a lot of
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information by taking his supervisors password and a lot of things he did with it they believe were above his technical ability that he had help from inside or outside. do you have any idea who might have helped him? >> no. i don't. look. i would put out there as one of the hypothesize to be tested that he had assistance either internally or externally. he went to china. i have no evidence. this is not fact-based, that he received any assistance from the chinese but you have to put it out there as a theory. >> there is a lot of allegations about what kpablexactly the government can and cannot do. the guardian came out with a new article and the headline was nsa tool collects nearly everything a user does on the internet.
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and the article explained a top secret national security agency program allows analysts to search through vast databases containing e-mails, online chats and the browsing histories of millions of individuals according to the documents provided by whistleal blower edward snowden. >> it is good news and let me tell you why it is. what the guardian was trying to describe today was a tool that has been developed over the years and lord knows we were trying to develop similar tools when i was at the national security agency, a tool that will allow an analyst as he is working day to day tasks to ask a straightforward question that would allowt that question to percolate throughout all the data the nsa has already lawfully collected in its foreign intelligence mission and allow the pertinent data to come
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back to the analyst so he can continue his task. if you read it without the scaremongering elsewhere in the article this is really quite an achievement and it is exactly what you want american intelligence analysts to be able to do to find the needle in the hay stack. we have breaking news. george zimmerman pulled over by police in texas. his crime, speeding. cnn just obtained dash camvideo of the incident. you are looking from the officer point of view. it is clear there was a firearm in the vehicle. >> the reason for your stop is for your speed. i want you to slow down a little bit for me. just take it easy. i want to inexpect your glove
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compartment. >> zimmerman hasn't been in contact with his defense team. david mattingly covered the trial. what was george zimmerman doing in texas? >> we talked to people closest to him and they are not saying at all. they are pointing out security reasons for that. we got a statement from his family a short time ago and it reads our family received death threats on a daily basis. we continue to take our security and privacy very seriously and go to great lengths to ensure our safety and that includes not talking to people about where george zimmerman is. we also received a tweet from his defense team talking about this saying we won't make comments about zimmerman's whereabouts.
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zimmerman himself was somewhat vague today in talking to the police officer. you can hear some of that exchange on the police video. the officer asked him where he was headed to and zimmerman would not give him a firm answer. security clearly on everyone's mind here for george zimmerman's whereabouts. >> a lot of people obviously as you say might be shocked to know george zimmerman is traveling with a gun. you have reported on his fears for his own safety trying to get the permit back. should he be surprised. >> both his family and defense team has been talking about this that he was not guilty of any crime and he is legally able and because of the security threats around him they feel like he not only has the right to but needs to protect himself and that means carrying a firearm. now, this is not the weapon that he used to kill trayvon martin. that is in the possession of the justice department along with all of the other evlds in this case that has the been turned
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over to that agency for investigation. right now george zimmerman clearly carrying another handgun concerned about his security. >> thank you very much, david mattingly. breaking news on george zimmerman tonight. still to come the bay different he is sentenced ariel castro's family is talking and what they are saying about the man who held three women captive for more than a decade. we are seeing he told the women there were other women in the past, some of whom he said never made it home. another million dollar jewelry heist in france. how the thieves are staying a step ahead of the police. a teenager kills himself after being bullied over the internet. is facebook criminally responsible for his death. video of president nixon revealed for the first time shot by his own staff and what he says might surprise you. meet the newest member of the quicken loans family:
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we have breaking news on ariel castro. castro's sister telling cnn that michele knight, one of the women he held captive for more than a decade will make a statement tomorrow. pamela brown spoke to castro's sister. what can you tell us about michele knight? >> reporter: what we know so far is that one of the three victims
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of ariel castro's victims will be making an impact statement tomorrow at his sentencing. i have been told this by a couple of sources and also spoke to castro's sister. and she confirmed the information that michele knight is likely to be making an impact statement tomorrow. again, things could change between now and then but that is the expectation. the other two victims, amanda berry and gina de jesus are expected to be represented by family members at castro's sentencing tomorrow but are not expected to make an aappearance. castro's sister tells me michele knight is expected to come and make an appearance at the sentencing. we have heard from michele knight, gina de jesus and amanda berry in that youtube videot that came out. michele knight talked about the hell that she went through saying she will not let the
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situation define me. >> i may have been through hell and back but i am strong enough to walk through hell with a smile on my face and with my head held high and my feet firmly on the ground. >> reporter: erin, castro's sister told me that castro will be speaking at the sentencing tomorrow. she told me he is going to be explaining a lot, that he is not the monster we think he is. she is one of two relatives who have visited castro in jail and she told me he is very loving. he is the brother she has always known. she kept saying wait and see what he has to say tomorrow. a lot is going to come out. >> that would be amazing. as you have been there reporting when we heard him a few days ago it was blaming when he was
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talking about the pornography and abuse in his own life ratherer than remorse and empathy. obviously a surprise that michele knight was not maybe the person a lot of people would have expected. they might have thought amanda or gina may have spoken. they also had a chance to go through the complaint itself and there is new information in here. when i was reading through it was sort of surprising. what stood out to you? >> reporter: you're right. a lot of the information is what we already know. you talk about michele knight, it reiterated how castro caused the death of her on born child and went into more detail about that but also talked about how castro threatened them and made them feel powerless. one way he did that was by telling them there were other victims before them and according to this document he told the victims that some of the victims prior made it home and others did not indicating that other victims were killed.
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so this was his way of controlling the women and making them feel powerless. it also talks about how he controlled their every movement through food and drink. in fact, it said they weren't allowed to use the bathroom on the first floor and there was a plastic toilet in the rooms emptied infrequently. it talked about the courageousness of the women and how they kept a diary detailing the abuse they went through and talked about the dreams of making it home one day. we now know this happened this past may. it did have a happy ending. they have a long road of recovery ahead of them still. >> pamela brown from cleveland. one of castro's victims, amanda berry gave birth to his daughter while in captivity. tens of thousands of births are
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the result of rape. >> reporter: when ariel castro asked to see the 6-year-old girl that he fathered by raping amanda berry, one of his three captives a judge ruled no that it was inappropriate. the idea that a monster like castro would have any parental rights is hard to believe but in 31 states rapists do, in fact, enjoy the rights of a father. >> i was astonished. >> reporter: seana's daughter was six months when she found out that the man who raped her wanted partial custody. >> how could i possibly entrust by beautiful, beautiful baby to him? but beyond that i didn't know how to spend the next 18 or more years of my life tethered to my attacker. >> reporter: she was raped at the age of 21 is now a lawyer and is helping to enact new
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federal guide lines that push states to pass laws to strip rapists of their parental rights. according to a 1996 study each year there are approximately 32,000 pregnancies result from rape while the majority of those pregnancies are terminated as many as a third of those women give birth. she says she kept her daughter in part because being pregnant helped get through the pain of being raped. >> just not feeling so alone, not feeling so dead inside because i actually have a life growing within me. it was a comfort to me. >> reporter: critics say most cases aren't as clear as the castro case and that judges currently have enough power prevent unfit fathers from seeing their children. >> lots of solutions that are short of this. and i think a lot of time when things come in this fashion based on one or two truly tragic
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stories we make bad law. >> she says there are other women out there just like her who had no idea when they decided to keep their children that their attackers had parental rights. >> if we knew that this possibility loomed on the horizon that we could spend the rest of our lives tethered to our attackers because of our decision to have our children, would we have made the same choice? and i think that is hard to answer. >> she was able to prevent her attacker from having custody rights. he has never met her almost 9-year-old daughter. the federal government is trying to create a pool of money to use as an incentive of states to give some of the mothers the resources to fight their attackers if they come up against custody battles. >> thank you very much. still to come it is like something out of a movie.
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another high end jewelry heist in france. that is at least five this year. and a shocking story about america's justice system. a suspect locked in a cell for five days with no food or water. he almost died. o.j. simpson granted parole. why it doesn't mean he will be walking free. blue is mine! i was here first, it's mine. i called about that one, it's mine. mine! mine. it's mine. it's mine. mine. mine. mine. mine. it's mine! no it's not, it's mine! better get going, it's chevy model year-end event. [ male announcer ] the chevy model year-end event. the 13s are going fast, time to get yours. right now, get this great lease on a 2013 chevy cruse ls for around $149 a month. like carpools... polly wants to know if we can pick her up. yeah, we can make room. yeah. [ male announcer ] ...office space.
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million earlier this week just basically across the street just three days after one of the biggest of all time. this is better than a movie. seriously. what is happening? >> reporter: this is unbelievable. the resort town has been riddled with high end robberies. the latest was at a fancy watch store where two robbers came in, one with a grenade and the other with a gun. they made out with about 40 watches. the same place was robbed earlier this year and 150 watches taken valued at $1.3 million. the other robbery just a few days back, the carlton hotel had an exhibit of jewels there, $163 million taken by a lone gunman in about a minute. in may two big robberies. a safe broken into at a hotel.
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another hotel a necklace worth $2.6 million was snatched. >> i mean, it is amazing. authorities are saying this criminal network can be involved. it is like a guy in a hoodie that goes in and comes out the side door with $140 million d e diamond. i know they think the pink panthers can be behind it. >> this just looks like their work. interpoll says the pink panthers operate all over the world. these are their hall marks. they like to hit the play grounds of the rich. you want money you go to people who have it. they target really expensive jewelry and have come up awith ways to sell it which is the key here. they typically hit very fast with very precise plans and
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certainly some of the latest robberies look just like that. >> that is just a pretty incredible thing. they have no leads on this right now? i know there was a very important member of the pink panthers in a jail break recently. i am not saying he was specifically involved but he could have been. any leads? >> this is one of the things they are looking into it. they have leads with all of the crimes. there was a jail break in switzerland a few days ago. and two armed men there in this very brazen assault broke in and busted out two other men including a known member of the pink panthers. at least two other pink panther members have been busted out of jail this year alone. does that prove they are involved? no it does not but it is another reason that the authorities are looking very hard at this group which believes since it started in the 1990s, look at this, may
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have stolen almost $400 million worth of jewels. >> $400 million. it is enough to make you think, i don't know, the insurance companies are involved. just stunning. we have been watching this. it is day after day. it is not a james bond movie. still to come an embarrassing report about the people hired to keep people in this country safe. thousands of incidents of misconduct, tsa workers sleeping on the job, stealing from passengers. our special coverage continues. a horrible mistake by the dea. a suspect left in a cell for five days, no food, no water, no light, no bathroom. the disgusting thing he had to do to survive. and nearly 400 people infected with cyclospora.
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welcome back to the second half. we start with stories where we focus on our reporting from the front lines. while protesters continue to crash in cairo today american lawmakers went head to head on whether to cut off aid to egypt. here is senator rand paul.
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>> when a military coup overturns a dramatically elected government all military aid must end. >> only 13 senators voted to cut off the aid. egypt is a top recipient of american aid. whether you agree with cutting the aid or not u.s. is giving aid to a country whose government was toppled. if the u.s. government formally called it a coup they would be forced to end the aid. the obama administration has chosen not to do so. an update on the cyclospora update. at least 378 people are infected with the stomach bug in 15 states. iowa and nebraska say prepackaged salad mix may be the source. cdc says they can't say whether it is all connected to the
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salad. fda says the process is so labor intensive it requires the collection of thousands of documents. o.j. simpson gets parole but not his freedom. he was granted parole on some charges related to his 2008 robbery convictions for seizing memorabilia he says belongs to him. it could be another four years or so before he is free even with this parole granting. the family of ron goldman was not comforted by the news. simpson was acquitted in the murders nearly two decades ago. it has been 725 days since the u.s. lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? the federal reserve categoried
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recent growth as modest and says it expects economic growth. a lot of people interpret it as a sign the fed will keep pumping money into the economy. our fourth story out front the tsa gets a pat down or slap down. a congressionalal committee held a hearing today to discuss an embarrassing report that shows the transportation security administration had more than 9,000 cases of misconduct in the past three years. top leaders of the tsa, an agency only created after september 11 had very tough questions to face on capitol hill today. >> reporter: the tsa on the hot seat again. >> if integrity is a core value then tsa, it is time to prove it. stop in the napping, stealing, tardiness and disrespect and earn american's trust. >> reporter: the agency scolded and tsa leadership grilled on
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capitol hill by lawmakers for two hours. the agency has grown to become one of the largest government workforces. the tsa has 56,000 screeners operator at 450 airports. the cost to taxpayers, $5.4 billion last year. that's according to nonpartisan watch dog group taxpayers for common sense. so when a government report came out showing 56,000 screeners involved in theft the big price tag raises questions. >> we are well past a decade past 9/11 now. it is very fair for the american people to ask if they are getting for their money the security that we need. >> jeff price, a professor and airport security expert is most alarmed by instances where screeners allowed family and
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friends to skip check points. >> if you look at most of the major terrorists attacks on aviation from pan am103, the list goes on and on there has been an insider that facilitated or carried out the attack. a report like this exposes an insider security risk at a far greater level than we should be willing to accept. >> reporter: while the tsa agrees on how they monitor and follow up on investigations they maintain the bad behavior is only a sliver of workforce. >> every single time we have one knuckle head who decides he is going to do something bad it tarnishes the image of our organization. i have our people on the line 365 days of the year and they know if they fail someone can die. >> despite the no tolerance policy one of the lawmakers said in today's hearing that not all of the screeners who stole from travellers were fired.
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some were only suspended and others only given a letter of reprimand. the tsa defended the move saying they cannot fire an officer unless they can prove guilt. imagine being locked up in a cell for five days with no food and water drinking your own urine to survive. that is what happened to 25-year-old daniel chong. the university of california san diego student was detained in april after dea raided a house where he was visiting friends. he found ecstasy pills, several guns, thousands of rounds of ammunition. he says he never knew about the guns or the drugs and he was never charged. thank you so much for taking the time. just even talking about what you went through on the basic headlines is shocking. five days locked up in a windowless cell.
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you thought you were going to die. you had a piece of glass and you wrote your mother a good bye message. >> for the first few days i was pretty much in denial. i couldn't believe what they were doing to me because i didn't think it was an accident because of how many people were involved. i was a bit worried about what they were going to do and confused, all kinds of emotions, just a clash of emotions, all of it. >> you had hallucnations. you were close to kidney failure. you had to go to intensive care. you almost thought you were going to die. >> that is not an exaggeration at all. i could have died at any moment. >> you lost about 15 pounds during that time? >> i did. >> how did you survive. i know we talked about you having to drink your own urine which is horrific to talk about. that was your sustenance?
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>> that probably is what saved me. i knew i needed to drink some fluid. the only fluid that was around was from myself which was urine. scientifically you just know you are going to die without it. i do watch survivor shows and i did learn that you have to drink your own urine if that is all you have. i went ahead and did that. the other thing i did was try to get the sprinkler going. there was a sprinkler attached to the ceiling. i tried to get that to spill some water so i can drink some of it or at least swim in it or something. it took a lot of energy because it was in the ceiling. i was barely tall enough to reach it. i kicked the door, cries for help. i put shoe laces in my jacket to let them know i was there. i did all kinds of stuff, whatever you can think of to survive in there i did. >> when you look back nine
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people including you were detained during the original raid by the dea. and the agents found all of this ecstasy, drugs, guns, ammunition, they never charged you. what were you doing in that house? >> i was celebrating 4/20. it's a holiday that a lot of college students, many college students celebrate to celebrate marijuana. so i was smoking marijuana at that house like a party. >> you weren't aware of the ecstasy and the heavy kinds of drugs and guns in the house? >> absolutely not. i knew about some spot but definitely not that stuff, no. >> you were never formally arrested or charged. you settled with the dea for $4.1 million. i know you are working towards a degree in economic at uc san diego. $4.1 million is a lot of money.
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i don't mean to say you didn't go through hell because you did. $4.1 million is a lot of money. what are you going to do with it? >> i'm going to buy a home for my family. i am going to protect it from myself and lock it all away. >> and save it. >> right. i'm going for the retirement. >> thank you very much for telling your story and taking the time. we appreciate your coming out front. >> thank you. >> amazing story. a teenager kills herself after being cyber bullied. was facebook responsible for her death? there is no crying in baseball. what about in the business world? are tears a sign of weakness. and why bars around the world are pouring some of the best vodka in the world down the drain. ♪ [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be great if all devices had backup power?
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breaking news the senate has voted to confirm jones as the head of bureau of alcohol, tobacco, firearms and explosives. it is significant because the politicly controversial agency has not had a permanent director
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since 2006. senators voted 53-42 to approve jones. he has been the atf's acting director since fall of 2011. as you can see that vote far from overwhelming. now to tonight's outer circle where we reach out around the world. i want to go to italy where facebook is at the center of a suicide. teens posted abusive messages and facebook can be the target of a criminal complaint. what is the allegation against facebook? >> reporter: an italian prosecutor tells cnn he is looking into throwing the book at facebook for failing to remove offensive content that may have played a role in a 14-year-old girl's suicide. she jumped out of her bedroom window. before that a video showed up in
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which she appeared to be drunk and disoriented. and then the prosecutor says the ex-boyfriend and friends sent messages aimed at carolina. a facebook spokesperson released a statement. >> i want to check with anderson cooper. >> we are keeping it honest tonight. year long investigation reveals has california's federally funded medicaid system paid out $84 million to drug clinics shown signs of deceptional billing practices including phony patients. state officials announced
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action. drew griffin asked what took so long. new claims from edward snowden about how easy it is for government officials to dig up information on americans just a few key strokes. we'll speak with edward snowden father-in-law about the allegations that the nsa denies and why the fbi asked him to travel to moscow. >> looking forward to seeing you in a few minutes. for crying out loud, is it not okay for a woman to shed a tear? an article about jill abramson about her career, lots of detail in there. apparently only two words are important enough to make headlines. you can see it right there. front page of the report. i cried. she admit that she cried after an article suggested she was a failure. would we see the same headline
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if it was a guy who cried. great to see both of you. we have been through this really, really nasty stuff. i appreciate it if it was one nasty article. i want to read what abramson told "news week" after the article. i cried. i should say it went right off me. i cried. by the next morning i wasn't completely preoccupied by it anymore. i had my cry and it was done. >> in this specific instance i think that gets picked up and seen as the armor. she is a tough woman. she is a successful woman. that was picked up. and there is an element of meanness as well as the
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humanizing element. >> there is no crying in baseball means that there is no double standard. the standard for women is the same for the standard and in finance and news and all these tough, hard core industries where men are at the top, the standard for women is the same for men. there is not a double standard. it's not acceptable. >> women do cry, people do talk about it. they do dock them for it. >> yeah. >> so to margaret's point, if you do cry, okay, if you do people may say it's fine but. >> men and women are different. men may get angry and punch a wall and i don't know if jill did that, maybe the same pickup. >> i -- >> that whole story is her junior editor, got angry punched a wall. men and women are wired differently. you know this, i know this. >> if a guy goes and cries in an office, it's a different thing
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and more acceptable for a woman to cry at work, not a dude. >> margaret, hillary clinton, when someone asked how she's balancing and making everything work. here is hilary. >> this is very personal for me. it's not just political. it's not just public. i see what's happening. we have to reverse it. and some people think elections are a game. they think it's like who is up or who is down. it about our country. it's about our kids' futures. it's about all of us and she cried. >> and then she cried. >> and that won her the primary. >> people thought she was a robot. >> it humanized her. remember, that was a group of women, 16 undecided women voters so women on women and prayed differently with women than men. she was criticized by men, not so much by men. >> john boehner. >> yeah. >> i got a point of view on this
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but in case you forgot john boehner's problem with the faucet area. >> making sure that these kids have a shot at the american dream. it's important. i put my -- myself through school, working every rotten job there was -- >> love you. >> and i think the top of our list is provided for the safety and security of the american people. that's at the top of our list. >> i love that he cries. all right? if nancy palosy did that, she would not be on top. >> clearly, john boehner is not afraid to cry. water works at the drop of a
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hat. if nancy did that it would be held against her. it makes it a safe place. >> the issue is it's not about emotion, it's about emotions that men perceive as weakness and crying men perceive as weakness. if a man cries we know a man is tough, if a woman cries maybe she's not up to the job. >> okay. >> all right. [ laughter ] >> margaret gets the last word. >> i don't agree with that. >> thanks to both of you. >> every night we take a look outside the day's top stories for something we call "the out front out take." do you know bars declared war on russian vodka. it started last month because gl puden signed a law and in protest bars around the world are stopping selling russian vodka. in the past week dump stoli
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dumping parties there are a few problems. it's really not russian despite the name and russian history, the company is not. this is letter from the sto stoli ceo. this is not enough for the organizers of the soli boycott. they says she would be using influence over the russian government on behalf of the gay community. for example, the owner and founder of stoli has not met with vladimir putaliladimir put he's not going to because putin is trying to throw him in jail. he is launching the rugt vodka war. he fled russia for fear of arrest and hasn't went back. val vladimir putin is there. stoli brings in $2 billion a year worldwide. if a few bars in a america stop
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selling it, it won't make a dent in the business. if they are serious, we should be lobbying leaders to do something when it comes to that country. out front next, never before seen footage of richard neixon n the white house shot by his own staff. the postal service is critical to our economy.
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i've been fascinated by nixon since i first saw the david frost interviews. it was something about it, a human side to him that i wanted to know more about. richard nixon of course, is one of america's most infamous presidents and yet, there redetails about his life and presidency that have not been revealed, amazing to think about but it's true and about to change. three of nixon's top aids documented their experiences with home movie cameras, must have been really when that was big technology but did it and that footage was seized did the fbi during watergate and went largely unseen until now. it's now a new documentary called "our nixon." it introduces us to a nixon few of us know. they are discussing the tv show all in the family, which nixon thinks is a movie. >> i told bob the other day i
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was trying to tune into the game and then the game went off and cbs came on with a movie. they had two magnificent guys they were glorifying home moe sexuality. >> there is more and you can see them tomorrow night at 9:00. them tomorrow night at 9:00. "ac 360" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com tonight, keeping them honest. billing you for patients that don't exist. officials going on record. also tonight, does the nsa have your number and web history and e-mails just a key stroke away? new reporting says yes and reveals the classified software they use to access that and more. we're joined by a lawmaker who wants to remain in the agency and is there a bellyache in this bag. an ugly stomach bug is