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and run as one on the "ridicu-list" that's it for us. thanks for watching. >> and cara santa maria is on the show. we're going to get into a guy, very complicated person, corey stoll. >> it was like, we're the rolling stones. it was incredible. we would go into a bar and people lost their minds.
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>> imagine if you stopped at a stop light and you were rapping to lil wayne, we couldn't see that happen. that's coming up on "stroumboulopoulos." let us begin with the snoop dog. what a transformation he's had. one wouldn't normally think transforming from a dog to a lion would make you for peaceful, but that is what happened to snoop dog. growing up really poor in long beach, california, his name was calvin. got the nickname snoop because he looked like snoopy. raised by his mother and stepfather, snoop really never knew his bad. even as a kid, he was singing and playing piano for his baptist church choir. times were tough and he found a
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way to dealing drugs. by the time he was 19, he had already spent a year and a half in high school. 1992 comes along and the trio collaborate with dr. dre. the next year, snoop released his first solo album, "doggie style" and within 12 months certified platinum. snoop found a way to glorify his gangsta lifestyle. but the consequences that come along with living that life can haunt you. in 1993. snoop was arrested as an accomplice to murder. he would be acquitted and over the next 15 years, he would continue to have legal you are shoes. as snoop grew older, he realized the effect this had on his family. in 2012, he goes to jamaica and confirmed what he already knew,
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it was time to make changes. upon his return, he began to work on a reggae album that promoted peace and harmony. snoop changed and the dog was now a lion. snoop! [ applause ] come on out, man. >> how are things? >> everything is everything. i'm slow motion, taking my time. >> is that so you can stretch it out? >> as you get older, you get slower. you want to take your time. >> last time i saw you was you talking about the reincarnation of the snoop lion thing. now that there's been a bit of extra time, what do you feel
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about that part of your life? >> i feel real good about myles. i feel good about the projection that i give, the energy, the love, the peace, the positive viables. i was also inspired by pimps, gangstas, hustlers. i was inspired by what we call the negative. but these were ghetto superstars. this is all i had. so as i grew up, that's what i wanted to be. that's why i projected so much of that energy in my career. >> was somebody saying to me, snoop, you need to do more? >> i had a lot of mentors, you know, musically, spiritually, and just on a personal level. my uncle charlie wilson was always a great mentor for me. boothy collins. there's a lot of people that inspire me. i feed off positive energy. i could always project positive
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energy. >> i was watching you a year or so ago, and you were on stage and doing lyrics. i was wondering, this is before you came up with the snoop lion thing. i thought, what do those lyrics mean to him today? when you're singing the stuff you wrote 20 years ago? >> music to me is not about hearing it as much as it is about feeling it. when i do those songs from 20 years ago, i get a special kind of feeling. the photo album don't get to come to life. this comes to life. people are projecting the words and when i see people singing songs that i wrote 20 years ago and they're singing it passionately, that's a great feeling. >> specifically, like you and dre and that whole explosion 20 years ago, run dm c and public enemy, but something happened in the beginning of the '90s. >> multicultural.
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you got dr. dre, one of the greatest producers of all time. you take myself and my energy. i was raised around people. so my music i would write for all of my friends, i wouldn't write just black music even though i was a black man coming from a gangsta perspective. i knew how to make music where everybody could identify to make it feel like it was theirs. >> you go to communities now and talk in gang programs, is it a different culture today than it was 25 years ago when you were a teenager? >> no, it's the same culture. everybody is stressing and striving for fame, notoriety, positioning. that's why i can identify with all the gang bangers. i can go to any neighborhood and hold a conversation about peace, because they respect where i come from. i speak they language. one thing about the road in general, it's always been a young man's game or young
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woman's game, it's always been a young person's game. the minute you get old and let the game outplay you, that's when you're out. >> the thing about hip-hop, now you and dre have to create that next generation of hip-hoppers. can you be doing this for 30, 40 more years? >> i feel like i don't have no time period on what i do, you know. i feel like i'm timeless. i say it with confidence, you know what i'm saying? because what i do, i make music for people and energetic situations happen where i use my voice and my persona and my spirit to project positive energy. as long as you're doing that, a, you should. have no limit on it. i look at the greats from the '50s and '60s still doing it, bb king, still playing and doing their thing. maybe i'll be like them one day. >> how much of the reincarnation is connected in your life and your relationship with your wife?
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>> my wife has always been my best friend and backbone through it all, understanding me when nobody else could even possibly understand me, as well as giving birth to my three babies and just being my backbone. when i took her to jamaica with me, it was very important, because it was a transformation in my life. if my wife is a part of my life, she needs to be part of the transformation, not from a distance, but up close and personal. we shared the experience and when she came back home, she started eating meat and doing different things to better herself. our energy is always reflecting off of each other. today is our anniversary and i want to shoot her a shoutout. i'll be home in a minute. [ applause ] >> i suspect it's even more significant, because there was a time when you were going to split up, right? >> yeah. i was being foolish and loving the temptation and loving, you know, what's there before me as an entertainer.
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i put that before my wife and my kids and being greedy, as opposed to being a real man and appreciating real love and appreciating what i had. i told her i didn't want to be with her no more, because i felt like i wanted to run the streets and be a pimp and live out my dream, which was childish of me, but at the same time you have to get rid of your childish ways. so when i asked her to accept me back, i asked in front of my kids because i felt like i abandoned them. i was fortunate enough to beg her back and for her to accept me back and for me to get my life right and to put her and my kids right and we've been together now 16 years. >> especially in music, a lot of guys, there's a big of bragging, were you good at being vulnerable in that moment? >> no, i'm never good at being vulnerable. you have to man up sometimes.
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when you're wrong, you're wrong. and i was wrong. before i lose my wife and kids, i rather admit i'm wrong and come back and get it right. >> you taught your son how to smoke weed. is that true? >> i can't teach nobody how to smoke weed. but i must say that he is definitely a seasoned vet. >> are you okay with that? like old enough -- is he old enough for that? >> he's 19. >> to be a seasoned vet? >> he graduated from high school. he did all the things me and his mother asked him to do. you have to look what it's done to me. i'm 42 years old, still looking good and flamboyant. i support him and always, because that's all he does is smoke weed. he don't do none of the other drugs that ault the celebrity kids are doing and i'm thankful for that, because it's so easy to get those drugs.
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and the horror of finding out that your kid is addicted to a drug that you have no control over is a horrible feeling as a parent. >> so those difficult conversations about drugs and all that, how did you have them with your kids? >> we smoked a joint. >> that certainly would take the edge off. >> i told him the effects of cocaine, the effects of alcohol, the effects of, you know, pills. all of the drugs that are accessible to him as i gave him the consequences. and we had members in our family that are ex-crackheads. i never push anything on my kids. i never just say i want you to smoke weed, do what i do. when i found out that's what he was doing, as a parent, my job is to bring him in and show him the proper way as opposed to letting him learn the improper way. >> stick around. more with snoop right after this.
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welcome back on the program. we're hanging out with snoop lion. >> it's kind of hard because people will be like snoop lion, snoop dog. it's whatever you like, man. when i make reggae music, i use snoop lion because that's the persona i'm pushing with the positive vibe and the new movement. but when i do my other thing that i normally do, it's still snoop dog. >> so when i watch your show, hands in the air, that's your
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thing. >> yeah. >> how do you feel about being connected to that part of the culture? >> i love it, because it makes me identify when i say no guns allowed, because we no the effects of the gun. when i say no guns allowed, it's not to those who need a gun and protect themselves in a righteous way, it's for those using it as violence towards kids and innocent people. >> what made you decide i need to put this down? >> i was getting sick and tired of all these shootings at these schools. then when i seen the one in connecticut, that broke my heart. i coach football, i coach 9 and 10-year-olds. and to think if my kids were in class and this happened to them and i have to hear about this, that hurt my heart. so it touched me to where i felt like i had to say something and do something and not worry about the effects of street credibility and the effects of who is going to say anything but
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deal with the issues and stand by something instead of falling for everything. >> did you feel like you played a part in celebrating gun culture? >> most definitely. i contributed to it. as a kid, i looked up to all the gangstas and the al pacinos, and the real life gangstas that we had a chance to hear stories and legends of. that's american culture, just like those movies were made for a reason. when they were made, they stained our brain and they did what they did to us. "scar face" is one of the greatest movies ever made and it's one of the most violent movies ever made and it's related to drugs and cocaine. but you forget what it really did. it helps us get a gangsta mentality. we became gangstas after that movie. >> i love hearing you on the willie nelson record.
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did you get stoned with willie? >> and you do know that. >> because that's the trip of all time. >> willie nelson was psychedelic, sci-fi, wide screen. i mean, i've never been outdone. [ applause ] but i was in amsterdam with willie and he made me quit. i had to think of something to get us to stop smoking. i was like, willie, let's go get something to eat. >> willie nelson, snoop dog, amsterdam. how did nobody die? >> wait a minute, we played dominos. so we're playing dominos. he got a vapor. i got a blunt. he got a joint.
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he got a bong and he got this other kind of thing that's like a wooden piece that you smoke out of. so just me and him, i'm keeping score, he blazes up the first one, i blaze up one. before you know it, it's four things being passed around while we're playing dominos. you would have thought we were octopuses, because we were moving so much. >> at some point your conversation must have reached the level of enlightenment. what were you talking about? >> when i'm around willie or a great musician that's still relevant and still doing it, i always pick they brain. i asked him what was he doing when he made "on the road again," and what was he thinking when he wrote "you're always on my mind." >> that's one of the greatest songs ever. >> i'm like i want to know that. what were you smoking when you made that, willie? i asked questions like that. >> was the answer satisfactory?
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>> very, very. >> this is the thing, i'm a fan and i've listened to the records. i got "doggy style" and i had to put a subwoofer to make it work. but something i realized, i was sit thing and i couldn't sing along anymore. i didn't want to say the n word out loud and i couldn't say ho or bitch. does your daughter ever say why do you keep calling us bitches all the time? >> my daughter was raised by me. let me tell you how crazy it is in my house. i'm downstairs in the living room and right by the kitchen where they eat. so we're playing spades, me and my wife, her aunty and sister. so my wife put on her phone.
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something come on talking about women's sexual organs. so she's singing it. my daughter humming in the back ground. >> how old is your daughter? >> 14. so i'm looking at my wife like, how are you play thing kind of music? and she's like, you of all people. but i'm not that person anymore. it's like, it hurts my ears to hear my wife and my daughter listening to that. >> i was watching all these girls singing along and the b word kept coming up. >> it only effects me with my wife and daughter. my mother and grandmother, it didn't bother me. >> but everybody else's grand mother? >> it ain't i don't care. i just have a different connection with my wife and daughter. when i do some of the songs, i don't like to do them.
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i don't even know why i feel like that, but it's certain sexual songs i have i don't like performing when my wife and my daughter in the house. >> tell me about the tupac hologram. when he said, what up, snoop, is i got chills and i didn't even know the guy. if you don't know it, tupac's hologram came up and the guys my age were going like, oh, wow. it was very odd. what was it like? >> it was like bringing your friend back from the dead to have him perform with you one more time. the energy, the projection, the way he moved, the way he sounded. it was like you would get caught up if you weren't professional. i was damn near caught up, because it was certain places i couldn't go, because i would mess up the hologram. but i was like, so caught up. i would close my eyes and start rapping.
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i've got to get back on point, because i was so -- see, what y'all were seeing i wasn't seeing. i was seeing his projection off of the floor. so i was seeing him really side by side but from a different angle. >> if you were on some willie stuff, he would have been there. >> exacta mundo. >> how does your wife feel about the new guy? >> she like it. she's more of a soft teddy bear. >> a huggy bear. >> that's what he is. because you can't hug the bear. >> more acting for you? >> yeah. i definitely love being on screen. i love doing movies. i love making movies. i love when hollywood calls and say we got a role for you. i love going in there and taking roles, too. that's what i'm known for.
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if i hear about a movie i like, i go in there and say, where the director at? >> always a pleasure. thank you so much. >> pleasure's all mine. >> snoop. we'll be right back. next, science takes top billing when cara santa maria is in the red chair. and letter, from "house of cards" corey stoll. [ applause ]
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welcome back to the program. one of my reasons i love doing a show like this on a network like this is the idea of having
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conversations about science, nature, twisters, the weather. there's a lot of ways we can have those conversations. my next guest calls herself a science communicator. she's a writer, producer and television host with degrees in biology and psychology. she's currently tackling climate change as the co-host of two shows on the weather channel "hacking the planet" and "the truth about twisters." please welcome cara santa maria. >> thanks for having me. >> what do you want to do? >> what do you want to do. >> when one hacks the plan et, what does one do? >> i don't think it's so much that scientists are looking for something but trying to counter the effects of these terrible weather phenomena or harness them. >> in this era when we was a conversation about weather
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phenomena, if you say the word climate change, there will be instant position taken by those who disagree. >> it's become a partisan issue and science almost never comes into the conversation, unfortunately. >> it's been connected to religion, evolution, creationism. why is that? >> for me, as a lot of science communicators say, the great thing about science is it just is, whether you believe in it or not. but there are a lot of people who look at these things as if they are belief structures, which makes my job a lot harder. >> do you think this would have been your path in life if you stayed connected to a church? >> i don't know. i was raised mormon. i'm a recovering mormon.
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my father is still mormon. a lot of my brothers and sisters are still mormon. the funny thing is, i left the church before i found science. so it didn't happen the way people assume it would. my folks split up when i was like 7 or 8 and i left the church officially when i was 14. which was a big and tough decision to make. it caused a big rift in my family. >> how did you do that? >> it wasn't easy. >> did you sit down -- >> yeah, i sat down -- in some ways i was lucky because my parents were divorced and my mom had stopped attending. i was really into a lot of philosophy at the time. i was reading a lot and dealing with some kind of mental health issues, dealing with depression. and i was trying to look inside of myself and i just realized, you know, i'm lying to myself.
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at a certain point, you just can't do it anymore. >> look at this picture here. my question is, which deejay at the rave were you most excited to see that night? >> you can believe i was going to a rave that night. >> of course you were. >> i'm not going to talk about what i was doing at that rave. >> your admission is an admission in and of itself. >> i'm pretty open about that. i had my fun when i was young. >> what effect did it have being raised by a single mother? >> i think it was positive. it's a double edge sword. i'm going to open up to a therapy session. i talk about this sometimes with my shrink. a lot of times what you end up having in life are kind of skills that are also masks. so i think it made me extremely resilient and super tough. i was -- i thought i was a mini adult. at 16 i moved out.
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i started college, moved into a house with some friends. thought that i was on it. obviously i wasn't. i was 16. but i've always been a little ahead in that way, or at least i thought i was and have been able to hang and i've been able to do things the way i want to do them and take care of myself. but at the same time, there's a wall that comes one that. sometimes you keep people out. >> stick around, more with cara santa maria right after this. we're going to get educated with cara santa maria, next. business can save by sharing. like carpools... polly wants to know if we can pick her up. yeah, we can make room. yeah. [ male announcer ] ...office space. yes, we're loving this communal seating. it's great. [ male announcer ] the best thing to share? a data plan. at&t mobile share for business. one bucket of data for everyone on the plan, unlimited talk and text on smart phones. now, everyone's in the spirit of sharing. hey, can i borrow your boat this weekend? no. [ male announcer ] share more. save more. at&t mobile share for business. ♪
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[ applause ] welcome back to the program. cara santa maria is here. we're talking about all kinds of stuff. i don't know how you would answer this question. i'm not sure i want to ask it. neuro biology, how much free will do we really have? >> there are different ways to look at it. sometimes when we talk about free will in neuro science or philosophy, we make the mistake of trying to look at it from a religious perspective. okay, i'm talking about how much control do i have over kind of innate behaviors, over my brain might know that i'm going to do something before i'm cognitively aware i'm going to do it. that's a different phenomena than a higher power having planned a future for me. so right there you have to get that. >> i'm thinking this is your
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wiring, your chemistry suggests you're going to do this. >> the real issue is our brains are much more plastic than we really understood in the past. we used to think there were critical periods or development and after that we couldn't change that. this holds true for certain things like developing visual acuity. but there is an amazing amount of change that our brains can undertake and it really depends on whether it comes easy or difficult. there are some habits that are harder than others to break. but we're somewhere in the middle. >> dealing with mental illness at any level, especially depression, someone would say, pick yourself up. >> there are people say you should just meditate or eat more green vegetables. it's kind of a first world
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problem or one percenter problem. or look at you, how could you be depressed? you have a good job and a good life. i think that's why it's important for people who do deal with depression to come out and talk about it if they are comfortable. obviously it's a personal decision. but if they are comfortable, because i think it shows a lot of people who deal with this that first of all, it's not your fault. and second of all, it's not like x, y, z would have had to happen to you to become depressed. it's a brain illness. there's something physiologically wrong and it requires treatment the same way diabetics require insulin. >> what do you think would change about science with more women at the table? >> i think that -- well, i think a lot of things would change. i think the way that science is done might be done a little bit differently. i think the way science is presented to the public might be different. and i think for me, honestly,
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what's most important, yes, i want to see more young people get interested and excited about the scientists so that they can come up and be scientists, innovators, engineers, mathematicians working in the tech sector. at the same time, when people ask me why i'm a science communicator, i say it's all about science literacy. i'm not talking about everybody turning into a scientist, but about the general public. people who have jobs and are focused on what they love and care about, being more scientifically literal. looking at the world through scientific lenses. because science illuminates dark corners and brings us out of fear and helps us understand the world as it is and not as somebody on high told us it is. i think that's fundamental to having a functioning democracy. >> good to see you. thanks for your time. >> you too. >> cara santa maria, everybody. corey stoll, coming up.
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[ applause ] welcome back to the program. so when word got out about netflix's idea to do "house of
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welcome back to the program. so when word got out about netflix's idea to do "house of cards," kevin spacey, robert wright, two incredible actors, everybody talked about this project. and people loved it. but what often happens in a program like this is a surprise comes up. there's a breakout star. that's happened with "house of cards." his name is corey stoll. here's what you think about him. >> corey stoll is excellent. i loved him in "house of cards." >> i was so addicted to "house of cards." >> there's so much going on behind those eyes, the passion. >> he's got a sense of charisma and he's also so humble. >> working with woody allen, that was great. >> he's an amazing actor. i think his star is rising as high as the sky can go. [ applause ] >> everybody, please say hello to corey stoll! [ applause ]
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>> how are you doing? >> great. >> what a run, sir. >> yeah, yeah. been a good couple of years. >> when it's happening, do you recognize it's happening? >> yeah, absolutely. when you get called to walk into a room with woody allen or david fincher, you know it's special. >> woody allen especially. >> yeah. other people had like pamela anderson on their wall and i had woody allen and martin scorsese. >> was that concerning to the people in your life? >> if it was, they didn't show it. they were supportive. >> you got to work with your gods in a sense with woody. what was it like with woody allen? >> it was all business. that's what is great about it. that's the key to his longevity. he just keeps writing, makes a movie a year, and if it's brilliant, it's brilliant.
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if it's not, it's not. it's the doing that counts. >> was he nurturing to you? >> it's all business. one time he gave me a compliment. that's 100% what i was looking for. i mean, that was 100% of what i was looking for. so that was pretty cool. >> is it true your grandmother used to take you to the theater? >> she did. she was a huge fan, and i remember she said that she took my grandfather to see "death of a salesman," and he was so distraught by it. this is my life. i don't need to see this on stage. from then on, they only saw musical comedies. so when i came around and showed interest in heartrending drama she grabbed the opportunity.
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>> what do you think she would have made of the "house of cards"? >> she would be over the moon. >> do you watch shows like that? >> i rarely have that kind of time to do that. >> so you don't sit down and watch like 12 "flavor of love" episodes? >> those days are behind me. i have done that. that is an incredible show, though. that's not still on, is it is? >> i don't think so. >> just remembering that first year, there was like -- it was the season finale and somebody like -- she had to go to the bathroom and couldn't sit through the -- >> so she went. >> that was amazing television. >> i can't tell if you're being sarcastic. >> well, i am, but it's remarkable. remark my trashy. but at least it was something. >> it's coming back though,
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isn't it? thankfully in the last maybe ten years you're seeing a shift back what -- like movies were the home for these challenging stories. most of it has transferred to television now. >> television was the boob tube and it was sort of the place of mediocrity, right down the middle broadcasting to as wide an audience as possible. but now with all these channels and the internet, you can do directly to an audience and take bigger risks that way. >> what's neat about the netflix model, they don't publish the ratings. so you never have to worry about the ratings. >> it's fantastic. there's nothing worse than feeling like your job is dependent on ratings that have literally nothing to do with the job you did. but with netflix, it was like
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doing a movie. we did the 13 episodes and then sent it out into the world. and it wasn't that sort of game of trying to please everybody. >> "house of cards" experience, people don't know what it's going to be, right? >> nobody knows what anything is going to be. so all you can go by is the people you're working with and the script. and those were incredible. it was the best pilot script i had ever read. and it was a role that had infinite possibilities. peter russo is somebody who inhabits all these contradictions in such a great way. when the character is both brilliant and idiotically self-destructive, you can got in any direction. >> when you're done with that spot, it can't just be a one-way street, it has to be bringing something to you. >> yeah. i've never gone, you know, crazy.
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i was particularly sober. >> no drugs or hookers during the russo part. >> just because i had to take my clothes off. >> that will mess with your own vanity, too. >> oh, yeah. >> i talked to guys in "the sopranos," guys that were actually in the mob would walk up to them and say, that's pretty close. do you get that with politicians? >> we had the opportunity to go to the white house correspondent's dinner, you know, they call it the nerd prom in washington. it was like we went as a cast and it was like we were the rolling stones. we would go to a bar and people lost their minds. it was like the cast of "game of thrones" going to comic-con or something. kevin mccarthy, who is the majority whip, who is -- that's the position that kevin spacey has in the show.
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he stopped me in the bathroom and -- >> which way were you facing? >> we were by the sink. >> that's the kind of photo that sinks a politician. corey stoll, everybody. we'll be right back. so where does a guy go to get that peaceful, easy feeling? we'll find out, next. [ male announcer ] these days, a small business can save by sharing. like carpools... polly wants to know if we can pick her up. yeah, we can make room. yeah. [ male announcer ] ...office space. yes, we're loving this communal seating. it's great. [ male announcer ] the best thing to share? a data plan. at&t mobile share for business. one bucket of data for everyone on the plan, unlimited talk and text on smart phones. now, everyone's in the spirit of sharing. hey, can i borrow your boat this weekend? no.
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[ applause ] welcome back to the program. i don't know what your story is like and what your personal journey is like, but there's a moment in your life where you say i'm not that interested in this subject. but then off there comes a point in your life where you stop and you go, hmmm, what kind of growing is going on in that aisle? and if you find it, it's pretty special. i know "the power of now," which was a "new york times" best seller by eckhart tolle has helped a lot of people. so when eckhart said we could visit him at his home, i thought, how could we miss the opportunity? it's eckhart, it's me.
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we go driving. world renowned author and spiritual speaker eckhart tolle thinks you can obtain fulfillment by living in the now. with a printing of 3,000 books, "the power of now" has sold 7 million copies worldwide and eckhart's work has inspired people across the globe. so i decided to jam him in a place which is the opposite of calm. how about a holiday weekend traffic jam on a california highway. except we're going to do it in style in a '71 el camino. so my intercom is on a road trip. how are you in traffic? >> actually, i enjoy driving. i quite enjoy most driving situations. >> even bumper-to-bumper traffic you're okay? >> yes. it's a great opportunity for just being in the moment and relaxing into the moment, because there's a situation you
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can do nothing about. ♪ >> you and your wife go on these road trips together, but you have managed to avoid the biggest problem with a road trip being cooped up with somebody. tell everybody what your system is. >> we each have our own car. we travel together, we communicate through walkie-talkies. she usually goes ahead of me, because she goes in the fast lane. >> so she's the speed demon and you try to take it easy? >> yeah, i'm not going to so slow that i hold up traffic, but i don't particularly like going fast. >> ever had a car crash, any of those terrifying moments? >> no.
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most people when they are driving, they say i'm a good driver. miraculously i haven't had a single accident in 35 years. >> what do you listen to in the car? do you listen to rock music or hip-hop or any of that? >> no, i don't. >> can you imagine if you stopped at a stop sign and you were rapping to lil wayne, we wouldn't see that? >> probably not in this lifetime. >> is there another lifetime, do you think? >> i think you're reincarnated, because there's more to you. i wouldn't say that -- the basic energy that is you, the intelligence does
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reincarnate, as long as it's necessary. >> when it comes to dying, you're not worried about it? >> no, no. the more you live in the present moment, the more the fear of death disappears. >> forgiveness is a really important part of this life, isn't it? >> yes. if there are people you haven't forgiven, you're not going to really awaken. you have to let go. >> i suppose that includes yourself, too? >> yes. [ applause ] >> what a pleasure it was to hang out with eckhart. of course, what a pleasure it is as always to hang out with you. see you next week. have a good night.
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