i got to see it. so thank goodness. >> i'm sorry i never got the honor of meeting him. but thank you very much. >> thank you. thank you for having us. >> that does it for the decision of "360." thanks for watching. come on in. what a program we have. how do these connect? russell simmons. >> i gave you the book. >> and we have a guy that started one of the most revolutionary and hilarious comedies in tv history. now it's airing on tnt. eric mccormack. >> your name is frankenstein! >> and golden globe nominee danny huston is here.

we started this whole journey together, all coming up on "stroumboulopoulos." one, two, three, four, let's go. [ applause ] >> welcome to the program. a lot to get into and i'm going to start with russell simmons. he didn't create hip-hop, but he's one of the pillars on which hip-hop's house is built. so much to get into, and he's a yogi. here's his story. you're familiar with that isaac newton quote, if i have seen further, it's by standing on the shoulders of giants. in the hip-hop world, one of those giants belongs to russell simmons. here's his story. he was born in jamaica queens in 1957. his dad was a professor of black history in manhattan. his mother, a new york city park administrator. despite the grounded upbringing,

he turned to a life of drug dealing and throughout his teens sold on the corners of queens, all the while working on his business accumen. in 1975, disco fever taking america by storm. but russell identified another genre of music that was starting to rise in the depths of the new york city burroughs. 1982, he got into business and music history together. stay that's righted def jam records. soon, it exploded on the american consciousness and music was never the same. but it was never just about the records, it was about the culture. early on, he began designing clothes and creating his own line and embraced the comedy and poetry scenes, developing those brands into tv and broadway shows. today he strives for change. we'll get into all of that with

russell tonight. russell simmons, everybody! [ cheers and applause ] how are you? >> doing good. >> welcome. >> thank you. >> look at those socks. i like those. were you styling in the day? >> still now. >> when you first got into all this back in the day, did you think you were going to be -- >> i had no idea. but i've been designing for 20 years now. >> i didn't know we would get you here, because you're such a defined new york guy. >> i moved here because of my kids. i want to wake up every morning, meditate with them, and take them to school.

i have an office on sunset plaza. i'm in film and tv and the internet business here. so i have new inspiration. i started def pictures and i have a company called a.d.d., which suits me. it's a fun internet idea, like an internet tv channel. i'm going to make mine -- i'm doing -- i must have 20 little series. yesterday, i was in my office and all these internet stars, i had like six internet stars. they were like meeting each other and i was like, wow. >> is working with this kind of internet personality similar to the early days? >> no one knows what they're doing. no one knows why people love them. it's a whole new world of talented artists who are not getting opportunity, so that's what a.d.d. is. >> you operate with empathy then, you're trying to find different ways in?

>> yeah, find ways to help them express themselves. also, i'm back in the music business. >> when you talk about fashion and we see what's going on with fast fashion and see what's happening with warehouses and manufacturing plants around the world, what is your responsibility as a fashion designer? >> it's tough. as we learn more ways to be competitive and do that, i always want to be conscience first. i always write about being a business yogi. my books are about consciousness, but about -- the last book is called "super rich." it's about giving, you forecast about good givers are great getters. but it's about how to go to work every day and be a good servant and it's also about being able to receive. it's not one of those typical

books about prosperity at all. it's about happiness. money doesn't make you happy is a big part of this rap and this reality. but happy makes you money is another part of it. because happy givers attract all kinds of stuff. so that's the philosophy in the books. >> who walked you through that? who is your guide? >> the first yoga teacher, steve ross. he still teaches here. steve's class was phenomenal. he played loud rap music. then one day he gave me the yoga scriptures, 5,000 years old and it's the science of yoga in that book. and there were three scriptures from yoga and i studied all of them. and they changed my life and the way i thought about the world. and it was stuff i already knew. the author of "the power of now"

was in his backyard living in a little shack. so steve gave me that book and i gave it to oprah and he sold 40 million copies. she told everybody meg ryan that gave her the book. but i gave her the book. i said you want a white woman to give you the book because that's your audience, but a hip-hop dude gave you that book. >> what did she say? >> she said, i think meg gave me that book. this was 20 years ago. but when i got "the power of now" and i gave her and gayle king that book downtown, they're like, oh, really, we'll look into this. i said no, you have to read this book. the next thick you know, he's a big store. i mentioned one day casually i gave you that book because i read you said meg ryan gave you that book. i gave it to her first. the hip-hop dude, not your

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[ applause ] we're back here with russell simmons. there's about meditation and feeling, connectedness, spirituality, whatever that is. >> we all are spiritual beings with physical experiences. there was a moment, i think my first yoga class, coming out being so high after class, having experienced this idea of being fully awake. after the first class i felt alive. i said oh, i keep doing this.

i'm going to lose everything. in fact, operating from a present, happy space attracts everything. you don't lose. just being less -- the idea for all of us is as we release anxiety and noise, then we become a more expansive in every way. so discovering that doing physical yoga practice and reading scripture, i'm a vegan. since i don't eat any animal products, making choices that have to do with moving towards consciousness or a relationship with we might want to call it god, but i don't want to care people. but this is something everybody is doing whether they like it or not. being conscious of it and taking steps to move you toward a more present awakened state, christ consciousness if you're christian or the yogis refer to smadi. all of these people talk about being still and knowing.

>> so much of the conversation about organized religion is about separates us, but it boils down to the same system, doesn't it? >> i'm chairman of an organization, the foundation for ethnic understanding. we have 30 countries where rabbis speak in mosque, and we have a dialogue and they fight for each other. in israel, we have 20 programs like that. and the grand mufti and palestinian people and the chief rabbi of the israeli people, they really believe in this dialogue and it's them who can forge a new future. and so it's not only for them, they find the sameness. >> what are you learning about people through this process? >> people are the same. same aspirations, same inspiration to some degree. as i get older i learn more and more of this idea. you say it by having total faith in the fact that we're the same,

it's something that is an ongoing process. you're moving towards that. that's what we're talking about with consciousness, including animals and all -- one living, breathing -- i like to say if god were the ocean, then we would be a cup of god. all things inclusive. so it's all -- i feel that way. >> how do you get people to get there? because there are a lot of people who feel like they're not the same. animals are not the same and everybody has a different world view. it's one thing to stay live and let live. but live and let live -- >> i talk about meditation. when you think about what you're involved in, what abuse you -- some of this stuff you're fed, you have to really be a little bit of an individual. that's why meditation is important. as you sit, you come to make choices in the beginning, and maybe sometimes you have total stillness, but you start to

realize things. >> when is the first time you heard a record scratch? >> 1977. part of why rap is so important and still is, but it's different now is -- >> they all say i'm going to get older. why is it different now, biger? >> it's the relationship with its truth. it was about something. it was about being heard. >> it's still a voice for lots of voiceless people. >> sure it is but -- >> it's their story, that struggle. they say things that we think. they say things society acts like doesn't exist. poets have always said things that make people uncomfortable, but they are the reality. they are the mirrors of societies. >> how does art make you feel? >> that's my brother, danny. >> your brother did that. >> that's dope. i haven't seen those pictures. swhatz is going on inside your

family where this is what comes out of snit >> my mother was a painter, my father was a poet. that's why i run the rush foundation that we have an event coming up. we've had it for 15 years in the hamptons and we underwrite art education for inner city kids. it's important to me that kids get art, practice appreciation, opportunities, because it's like you've got to cultivate creativity. what presence comes from art, from looking inside, the bankers don't get that. and numbers don't mean anything unless you can imagine what to do with them. so cultivating the imagination is important part of the kid's education and it's being overlooked. all the programs have been cut. so we try to supplement programs like that with the rush foundation. >> do people step up when the government's not there? >> if we can raise $3 million in

a year and give it out, that's nice. but we need hundreds of millions. so the people step up, they would say oh, we don't need to tax people. we all run charities. get out of here, rich people, just pay more taxes and shut up and let us give people what they deserve. every other country is giving artistic education to kids. every other country is giving good education to kids. while we starve our children of an education, we are slipping. and i'm not a competitive person like that, oh, other countries do it so we should. we should just give people what's fair. we have a very, very special country and lots of people have great opportunities and we should give back. >> good to see you, man. >> thank you. >> russell simmons, everybody. [ applause ] we'll be right back. he taught us where there's a will, there's a great. eric mccormack after this. right now, 7 years of music is being streamed.

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just wrapping it up. >> congratulations. i spoke to you just before this was going to be unleashed on the world, as you know, we talked about it, mental illness, the conversation around it, such a current and important one. getting into the second season of it, have you had a different relationship with a character in that conversation? >> certainly in the first season there was so much of an attempt on my part to define who this character was and his particular illness, which is paranoid schizophrenia, and to fine the tone of the show. there are moments where we see how awful that can be for someone. there's also moments where we see he's a guy, as in control of it as you can be without being on meds. he's figured out how to live with it and almost needs it. now that we've established that playing ground, the second season was a lot more fun in a way. he's become a lot more of an advocate for other people live

with mental illness. it's a crime solving show and a lot of the crimes begin with someone that's done something terrible. and that's when we get into this whole new area of neuro-law, the idea that we are identifying more and more. it's not just that he's insane or sane, but how responsible are people with yet another mental illness and it's getting into a strange air. >> after a big hit tv series, it's hard that someone could get another one. >> it was a brief moment, about six years. it's terrifying, because there's a part of you going, hey, dig

me, i'm that guy. and then you realize, so what? that's on my tombstone. what happens between now and then? and you do have to reinvent yourself, particularly if you were a gay sitcom lawyer. there's much reinvention to be done. and to for me as an actor, i started as you know in the theater in toronto, when i started in drama. so i was trying to find my way back to the old me. >> for all the wonderful things of being in a successful sitcom will give you, is the artist in you satisfied? at a certain point, the characters are what they are. >> the conversation i have with people, why didn't you stay in television, is it time to do a fi film? i do a lot of stage, and that is rewarding. but what i do love about television -- >> is the money. >> is the money. [ laughter ] no, it is -- i do love the

continuity of a crew that becomes family. and of a character that surprises me as much as the audience. i don't know what he is going to do next week. when i read that script, i'm going, i didn't know i was going to do that. i didn't know that was going to happen to them. i didn't know i had a brother. that's the joy of television. >> that's a fantastic reality, you're always on a high wire. >> it's the fluidity of television. if you can last long enough, you have to get creative and come up with new stuff. >> we just passed the birthday of one of the greats, gene wi wilder. >> every week on "will and grace" we had somebody great come on. when gene came on as will's boss, mr. stein, for two episodes, there was a tremendous amount of hand shaking kind of

reverence. he is one of the ones we all steal from. i have definitely stolen from him. but there was a great moment where he was supposed to be playing sort of the silent partner that is very shy, even though his name is in the title of the law firm. i sit down with him in a restaurant and i said, mr. stein, you have to speak up, you have to be you, you're mr. stein. say it, you're mr. stein. i'm mr. stein. and i said, your name is franken-stein. and he fell out of the booth laughing. >> that has to be a trip. >> that was the luxury of that show, realizing we have an audience, but we're not live. we can fool around and get the audience enjoying themselves. i pulled one on michael douglas that was funnel. it was a luxury. >> we know how big a deal "will and grace" was on a cultural level.

oh, there's a guy guy on tv that i can connect to and i'm sure you've had that. have you had people have a conversation about schizophrenia and mental illness? >> yeah, it's been great. in its own way, it is the next tabu, that everyone for years nobody talked about mental illness in their family. it was so murky and so ill-defined. and now for various reasons, including oprah and dr. phil, it's become more and more okay to talk about the pills your mother took and the effects it has had on you. so for people to come up and say my brother has schizophrenia and i never seen it portrayed like that is affirmation we're doing something right. >> it's a privilege, because you want -- choosing acting is so

selfish. you completely do it for yourself. you're not thinking how you're going to feed your kids down the line and how disappointed your parents will be if nothing happens. so to do be able to do something that rewards you and pays for your family, but also is giving a lot of other people something. >> you mentioned your parents. you lost your parents. as the years go by, how do you think of them and what would they think of the guy they have now? >> i think that they would be pretty pleased. they didn't see all this coming. when they came to the "will and grace" set and came to the "lonesome dove" set, everything was gratified. they came and immediately said we want to be in this. so they became extras for a day. i have a great shot of my mom somewhere in a big bonnet. some church picnic scene or

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[ applause ] we've got eric mccormack hanging around with us. so your son is about to have a birthday? >> he just had a birthday. he's 11 and he was born on the same day as our country. born in santa monica, california, but a canada day baby. >> obviously there's a lot of space you operated on. you worked with the cancer society in canada. when you spend so much time dealing with that, do you find comfort in that, being in that place? >> yeah, but i'm -- it's just so

dismaying that the word is completely common in our life. it's no surprise that someone has cancer. someone else has cancer. we just did a story on the perception coming up, with joe beth williams plays my mother and she has cancer. so i was doing scenes about my mother having cancer, which is how my mom died. it makes you angry and it's underrated, too. how do we get to a point, maybe our kids will get to a point where they talk about it like we talk about polio. >> who tells you that your tv character mom was going to have cancer. who breaks the news? >> the creator of the show, ken diller. i remember every year on "will and grace" the director would tell the writers don't be afraid to paint your seselves into a

corner. so when ken comes up with these stories and i think how long can we do this? how many hallucinations can i have? but he came up with some doozies this year with the writers. and the idea that i'm -- my mom gets introduced in such an interesting way, it's great. >> if you go back into yourself, you've lived that. >> but that's -- like i say, to say it's the hard part of the thing is in some ways not true. the hard part was in theater school not having any life experience and coming up with that stuff. but at this age, to have, in a strange way, the luxury of i get to show something that i actually went through and not have to act so much is a very

different thing. it's a good thing. >> let's go back to the '60s and tell me what this makes you think of. >> come on, max, it's really me. >> but you know the new control protective code. i can't open that door unless i am sure it's really you. oh, it's you. come on in. >> that was my every day after school. i would come home with my friend bill and we would sit and watch "get smart" and i was agent 44 and he was agent 85. and it was a fantastic, and all we wanted to do was sleep with barba barbara feldman. we didn't know what that meant yet. so years later, i got to meet don adams at an nbc party. and i got to tell him how much i loved him and i didn't know if he was really listening.

but there was a "get smart" panel and i was in the audience and telling stories of leonard goldberg. and somebody said, don, do you think there will ever be a "get smart" movie. and he said, i don't know, but if there ever is, i want eric to play me. and i didn't even know that he knew that i was there. and it was the greatest moment, and i told steve karel that story. but it was a very exciting -- so much for me of this business has been the excitement of making childhood dreams come true. meeting heroes, and it happens in the craziest ways from a friendship with elton john to meeting alice cooper to whatever it is. and i'm just a giddy fan. and every week on the sitcom, it

was like, who's coming in? i'm going to fall apart. i can't take it. i can never get jaded about that, because i was such a -- it was everything to me. >> ever start singing a song and you have to suppress it? >> oh, absolutely. there was one day, there was times when i'll ask crazy fan questions. like he was shatner, and i said elton and bernie were backstage and i was there and i might have had a beer or two. and i said, can i ask a question? i said i may never see you guys together again and i asked some obscure question about the captain fantastic album and they staid, i don't know, i haven't the faintest idea. >> what was the question?

>> in the original lyric notes that came with the actual vinyl album, there are lyrics to a song called "dogs in the kitchen" and i said did it ever get recorded, why is it there? they stared at me like they had no memory or they didn't know. >> that's the best life experience when you don't remember. it means you remember enough that you forget something as awesome as that. you were telling the joke that you didn't know what sex was at that age, but culture is so different now. your son is still in that sweet age, and as they get older, how are you managing that part of it? those conversations that you have to have? >> every parent has the conversation these days about the internet. everything we went through, any innocence is obliterated by a touch of a key stroke. so that part is hard, because what i see in my son and a lot

of kids, they still want to be innocent. the childhood desire to see secret things and find out stuff is there. but i think they're subconsciously aware that childhood is finite and i keep trying to remind them, you'll be an adult forever. this is a very brief time that you should be a kid. i'm still a kid. i stretched it out. >> good to see you. >> thank you so much. >> eric mccormack, everybody. [ applause ] we'll be right back. from hollywood to "magic city" danny huston is here. that's all coming up. right now, 7 years of music is being streamed. a quarter million tweeters are tweeting. and 900 million dollars are changing hands online. that's why hp built a new kind of server. one that's 80% smaller. uses 89% less energy. and costs 77% less. it's called hp moonshot. and it's giving the internet the room it needs to grow.

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business. >> yeah. >> the huston name is part of it. >> i'm very proud to be part of it. my grandfather, walter -- >> canadian born. >> that's right. my father, my sister anjelica, and now my nephew jack. >> did you always feel like part of snit >> i did. one of the lessons my father gave me, he said danny, stop. what? he said this is nonsense, stop that. he said when you look from left to right, and right to left, what do you do? i don't know, i give up. he said you blink. that's a cut. he said don't worry about all the nonsense in between. focus on what it is you're trying to say. that was my first film lesson. >> i remember reading about "mr. north" you were directing when your father passed.

what was it like knowing you were going to get to work with him in that context? >> i made a film called "mr. corbett's ghost," and i was a young buck, and he flipped a line and he said, cut. i said, dad, you can't do that. i'm directing. oh, i'm sorry. i'll never do it again. and he was so sweet and supportive. of course, he could say cut. but he was giving me that feeling of authority. >> like a lot of kids for a minute, they grow up and think their parents are god in their life. >> that's right. >> what was it like when your father is god, because in the bible, he narrated. >> he was the voiceover for god and my mother was in the film also, she laid hagar and she was in the desert dying of thirst.

as you say, when father is god for a child, to actually hear him as god is -- >> obviously much time has gone on and you forged your own career and identity. when you spent enough time as an actor working as something, do you need to go back? because this is something you love and in your blood. >> i'm itching to direct again. you see, basically i made a couple of films, and my father was very much my buddy in making these films. and when he was no longer around, suddenly i was stuck in l.a. and this sort of seasonless state. and years were going by. i was having meetings and developing things. but years were going by, and fellow directors, friends out of the kindness of their hearts, started giving me small parts. and the next thing i knew, the parts got bigger.

and i became an actor. >> let me show you this clip here. >> things happen for a reason. think of anna. you will write to me, and the status quo will be reassessed. >> you cannot be my partner in the havana hotels. >> it's "magic city" and it's just a time in american pop culture, isn't it? >> yeah. >> he's got sort of a bugsy siegel quality about him, 1959 miami. there's a certain amount of research i had to do, but it's a fantastic period. castro is in, kennedy is about to be elected. free jazz. the atomic bomb. >> what does malice feel like? >> quite normal. [ laughter ]

i take great pride in dissecting my characters, the villainous ones and prodding them. nobody necessarily regards themselves as villainous or evil or bad. but in the case of this character, i thought i would give up and just plan for the bad ass he is. >> it must be fun to act in a series where you get to make stuff. >> i like to work backwards a lot. i like to know what happens to the character. and not knowing i find it's a little daunting, like life. you don't know what corner you're ghog to take and what's going to happen to you. to that's what i find a little uncomfortable is not knowing where the story is going necessarily or what's going to happen to your character. but it's also exciting. and it's -- i really treat each

episode like a film unto itself. >> life doesn't let you know where it's going. how are you handling that? >> certainly not. i mean, i have a daughter, so immediately that's any sort of recklessness about one's self, you become a bit conservative. and you care about her future. >> have you figured out your role in it? >> she's just a great friend. the other day she says to me, dad, would you sit down. i sat down. she said would you stand up. i stood up. she said, would you sit down. i said, what are you doing? she said, i'm directing. >> where is that coming from? >> well, a family. >> so many hustones. can't you just get together and do one massive family movie?

>> we're big believers in nepotism. in "mr. north" i directed my sister. i directed my father. and so yeah, we're definitely going to keep working together and hopefully entertain you. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. >> [ applausebecause we'll be right back. next, keanu and i go on a motor bike ride, next. [ female announcer ] the best thing about this bar it's not a candy bar. 130 calories 7 grams of protein the fiber one caramel nut protein bar. the fiber one ♪

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[ applause ] welcome back to the show. so as we get ready to close this out, i want to get to a space where we started this thing. we had the keanu reeves piece and we got a lot of nice responses from you. the thing that motivates you, the thing that makes your heart sing, for lack of a better phrase, and watching somebody do it is infectious. he loves motorcycles. so let's go back to arch motorcycles company, a company he co-founded, to see more of what drives keanu. >> this is what i came in on

today. >> this is your main commuteer? >> yeah, this is one of them, '72. >> when did you first ride, what is your first bike? >> i started when i was 22. i was in germany doing a movie -- >> which movie? >> "babes in toy land" and this young lady had a motorcycle and i was like, can you teach you? so i ended up riding around the lot. and then got back to los angeles and i went to this place in l.a. called super twins and got a norton and so i've been riding them since. i guess it was around '88. >> all the people in your life look at you say, please don't get a motor cycle? >> yeah, but they're wrong. this is an amazing thing. you've got the ocean, the desert, sunsets, you've got pch,

santa monica mountains. when you're in traffic on the 10 or the 405, you're like -- >> do you think they're wrong when you wreck your bike? >> no, that's when they're right. when you get the wrecks, yeah, that's when they're right. you've had that, right? >> i've had four of them. you just get up and go. >> yeah, if you can. hopefully when you can. it's like that's a good day. and then coming over here, can we just take a little look how this is shaping up here? >> if we're in an art gallery, what are we seeing? >> beauty, balance, symmetry, and its totality is wonderful. it feels like it wajtds to move forward. it works in a hole, but also as you go into it and you're looking at the detail of it, you're like, wow, look at that. >> will there be a version that's just like this? >> yeah, that will be like our ground.

>> you'll go for it and i'll go behind you and ride it back to canada. ♪ take a chance, hit the gas, leave the town behind ♪ ♪ let's ride ♪ feel the open road >> for this kind of motorcycle, when you think of like a custom big twin, you can really tuck in and go and just have that ummm! >> what does that feel like you when you get that ummm? >> it's a physical experience of pleasure. you know the sensations of the sound, the wind, the kind of contemptplate that you can just go. >> you're just in it. >> yeah. >> what a great ride, bro. california, beautiful.

>> that has a nice rumble to it, man. so you're obviously so recognizable. when you get out there, do you feel like that's where you're not? >> no, for me, sometimes motorcycling is escape. sometimes it's a release. sometimes it's just for pleasure. it's for like with what you do. you're talking about crossing north america, canada, what is it five times now? >> have you ridden across canada? >> not that often. >> do you feel like canada is home? >> yeah, that's where i grew up. >> so here we go. [ applause ] >> what a pleasure it was hanging out with keanu reeves and a pleasure hanging out with you. see you next time. [ applause ]

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