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was jowls deep in the watergate scandal tell. that's it for me. \s. a jumbo cargo plan goes down. plus new details of what may have motivated a deadly hostage crisis i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room." federal investigates are on the scene of a fiery and deadly plane crash. it happened before dawn near the airplane. breaking apart, bursting into flames, killing the pilot and copilot. cnn's david mattingly is on the scene for us, joining on the phone.
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>> reporter: wolf, i understood how close so many lies came to being taken in this crash. the pilot and the copilot we're told died in the impact of this crash, but this plane landed or crashed in an open field about a half mile from a neighborhood. that sounds like enough breathing room, but this plane actually came in very low, taking out the tops of trees in neighborhoods, taking out power lines, actually coming within feet of hitting certain houses on its descent down into that open field. what we're waiting for right now is the national transportation safety board. they've been on the scene for hours this afternoon, looking at the wreckage. they were supposed to have a press conference very soon. it appears, looking at the wreckage, that it should not be a problem to recover the cockpit voice recorder and flight dada
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recorder, the two important sources of information,'s they go about trying to find out what happened. we've talked to people who lived on the ground that had this jet fly over them this morning. they talk about what they heard was a sputtering sound from an engine. i spoke to a man who is a former aircraft mechanic. he says he believes that he heard one of the engines backfire, suggesting that there might have been some mechanical problems as this plane was coming down. but this is all just people on the ground, no one actually saw what they're and they're just guessing about what they were hearing, this was before dawn, but visibility i'm told was actually pretty good, because there was some precipitation in the area. officials here say there was really nothing going on, nothing
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severe, no problems that would have brought an aircraft down, so that is part of the mystery here. also, the mayor of birmingham tells me that they checked with the people at the tower, and the pilot never radioed into the tower that he was having problems, this according to the mayor of birmingham. so we're waiting for ntsb to give their initial impressions after having looked at this. the aircraft is in very large pieces. some of the pieces were actually littering yards of the neighborhood, i was talking about as it was hitting the pine trees and losing pieces as it was coming down. so they have a very large area to actually look at and collect debris from. we're waiting to see what sort of conclusions they're going to draw. >> david, stand by. we're anxious to hear from the ntsb as well. we're going to wait for that news conference to begin. northbound imto bring in michael
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gold faush, who understands this situate quite well. what you have does it that seem like? >> it's interesting, the fact that there was no radio for any kind of help, indicates that it may have been pilot error, but the board is going to say very little this afternoon. it's protocol. they're going to talk about the g.o. teams. they will get the so-called black boxes, bring them back to washington. >> this was an airbus a-300. tell us about this plane. >> first of all, it's an old plane, but this plane was only ten years old. it's been in service since 1972. >> but this one was air acquired -- >> ten years old, so relatively new. it also has modern avionics and the equipment, the black boxes will tell about the aircraft.
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>> wang plane only used to cargo? >> yes. >> was there a passenger version? >> it's no longer produced for passengers, but the interesting thing is what are the leading indicators? what causes concern? number one, pilot fatigue. too many hours. they don't have the same standards. >> why don't they? >> because it's been a pushback from the cargo industry say it's not cost beneficial for us. we fly -- but in this days, 6:00 a.m. from louisville to birmingham? probably the first flight of the day, short hop. fatigue doesn't look like the case. point two, hazmat cargo holds. three years ago, 90,000 lithium batteries in the cargo hold exploded. whether that was the case, we'll find out. it's curious, and there's very little information to indicate why such a tragedy would okur. we just have to assume they were
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seasoned. >> are there different regulations for cargo pilots as far as training is concerned? >> yes, f.a.a. has been trying to move to one standard of safety, and it's been a struggle over ten, 15 years, people flying the passengers planes and people that ply in a commuter plane have the same safety standards. cargo has been a bit more different to regulate. >> they have a different flight regimen, they flight at night, different pilot rules. but remember, all this came out of the that horrible crash in buffalo, the commuter crash, a lot of lessons learned, applying to pilot rules and safety. >> for example, what lessons were learned from that crash. >> the hours in flight were ridiculous. a young 20-year-old with 15 hours in flight. the pilot salary is $25,000, $30,000, same as you make at mcdonald's. no offense to mcdonald's, but they weren't paying the pilot.
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>> has that changed much? >> not that much. they now changed the hours. they are better requirements, better training. >> but i assume a pilot and copilot for a u.p.s. jumbo jet, they get paid decent salaries. >> they do, much more than the commuter planes and probably much more proficient, with hundreds of thousands in flight simulators, and they've flown many, many miles. >> we're standing by for this press conversation. what's the most important thing you want to hear? >> essentially that they can recover the black boxes, that's number one. they have the air traffic control tapes. they know about what was discussed in the communication. they're going -- the good news is they will rapidly resolve what happened on this crash. >> when you say rapidly, sometimes it takes a year? >> no, no, they will have initial plim carry results quickly listening to the black box recordings and data
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recorder. the investigation will take a yus, the danger at this stage, as you know, the early speculation almost invariably is never right. it's a combination of things. >>. anybody. >> who knows. >> indeed. we're standing by for the news conference. i'm ainge to hear what thefz to say. we're awaiting that news conference. meanwhile, a state of emergency as political violence claims hundreds of lives in egypt. arwa damon is in the middle of of it. that's coming up. newt gingrich, host of the new "crossfire" gives a stunning lecture to his fellow republicans. right now, 7 years of music is being streamed.
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let's go to egypt now, the single bloodiest day since the historic revolution. one described it as open war just after security forces bulldozed massive camps filled with supporters of the ousted president. according to egyptian tv 278 people have been killed, at least two journalists, one a longtime skynews cameraman, who used to work here at cnn. hundreds have been injured. a month-long state of emergency is in effect, and curfews are in place. that's where our arwa damon is in cairo. you had to duck for cover at several points today, right in the middle of violence president what is the latest? what's going on right now? >> reporter: right now it's
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something of an uneasy calm, if one can even describe it as that. the streets are absolutely deserted because of that curfews in place. the big challenge facing the security forces throughout the day was not just having to go in and clear those two main sit-in sites, but dealing with clashes that increased in intensity and spread throughout the entire city. as supporters of the ousted president were refusing to give up, they are trying to repeatedly re-gather in different areas. trying to re-access one of the main sill-in sites, and then in this other new area, they've managed to set up yet another sit-in. those people are still there, and they are fully aware that they do so at great risk to their own safety. they've set up a field clinic. they are waiting for the crackdown to continue. they were expecting the worst-case scenario, and adding
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to all of this too, wolf, is the added dynamic that it's not just clashes between security forces and morsi supporters. it's also clashes between morsi supporters and residents in some of these areas, driving around just before curfew. we also saw neighborhood watches being set up in some places, basically youth from neighborhoods carrying battens, bats, setting up their own checkpoints searching vehicles. >> do the pro- -- the muslim brotherhood who are protesting their removal, do they have weapons, arms to fight the security forces of the egyptian military and police? >> reporter: they claim that they do not, and that being said, we did not see any weapons in their hands at any point in time. that being said, there are --
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who have been killed in these clashes. although by and large, this was a peaceful movement, and the fallout from all of this, in terms of the casualties, in terms of the clashes that many of expecting to continue as the security forces try to bring the situation under control and in terms of the political fallout. the country is paying an incredible cost in trying to navigate the way forward is proving to be as challenges as ever, wolf. >> i raise the question about weapons, because i know a lot of people are concerned about what we've seen in syria for the past two years, a horrid rend out civil war. you've been to syria, you've been in egypt, libya, you've been throughout the region, are we on the verge of potentially a civil war, a deadly civil war in egypt? >> reporter: to the scale and
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magnitude that we have seen in syria and iraq and some of the other countries in the region? no, absolutely not. are they at risk of more clashes and violence? yes, that's certainly there and in a great are capacity than it was before the security forces forcibly cleared these individuals out. and for the muslim brotherhood for its supporters, for those who are supporting the ousted president, this is also very much an existential battle action but that being said, is egypt going to fall into an all-out civil wart? not likely,u it's still in a precarious position, and the responsibility is on the government right now to figure out a way to bring about an end to this situation, and really decrease the amount of blood that's being swill. it's a vicious cycle. the more killing and death there is, the angrier people become, the more potential for killing
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and death in the near future. >> certainly is. arwa damon, we'll get back to you. once again we're standing by for that news conference from the ntsb. the crash of the cargo plane. let's in the meantime continue the fallout the just a little while ago, the sect taef of state john kerry directly addressed the crisis. >> the united states strongly condemns today's violence and bloodshed across egypt. it's a serious blow to reconciliation, and the egyptians people's hopes toward democracy and inclusion. >> let's bring in jill dougherty. both sides, i guess you could call it a conflict in egypt, they're blaming the united
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states. >> they are. it's very disturbing for the united states. after all, remember when they were trying to say is it a coup or isn't it a coup? the united states stood back and said best not to define it, let's stay out of it. let's keep both sides happy. but by staying out of it, they have angered both sides and being criticized. if they say it's a coup, it angers the military and pleases the people on the morsi side. if they say it's not, it polices the military, so they could win. dorgts forget senator mccain and gram went there. and said it is a coup so it's generating a lot of anger. >> what's at stake for the united states? >> number one it's a huge country, linchpin of the middle east. i think it boils down to terrorism and israel.
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israel back egypt made peace with vault, even when morsi came in, you know, muslim brotherhood, they were fearful here in washington that he might walk away from the peace, but he didn't. and now the military has been cooperating with the united states on anti-terrorism. so if that falls apart, and if egypt completely falls apart, that fight against terrorism could be diminished and that's very dangerous. >> certainly is lots at stake here. by the way, in our next hour, i'll speak live with the egyptian ambassador, he's here in the "the situation room." we'll talk about this crisis. once again we're awaiting a news conference with the ntsb. once it begins, we'll go there live on the crash of that u.p.s. cargo plane overnight. a stunning reprimand from the co-host of cnn's news "crossfire." what newt gingrich is telling them. plus coke takes on critics
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of the artificial sweeteners with a new ad campaign. sanjay gupta will join us, but i'm told the news conference is about to begin. here it is. let's go there. >> well, good afternoon. my name is robert sumwalt. aim a board member. the ntsb has arrived in birmingham to begin the investigation of the accident involves u.p.s. flight 1354. before i go on, i would like to pause a moment and offer our sincere condolences and let you know that our thoughts and prisoners of war are with the families and the victims, and the friends of those. we are thinking of you, and you are in our prayers.
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the ntsb, we'll start with that. we are an independent federal agency charged by congress to investigate transportation accidents to determine the problem cause action and then to issue safety recommendations to keep those accidents from happening again, that's what we're in the business of doll. this was u.p.s. flight 1354. it was on a scheduled flight from louisville, kentucky, to birmingham. the aircraft is an a-300-600. a-300-600f. the "f" stands for freighter. the registration number is n155up. and has been reported, the aircraft crashed while on approach to runway 1-8 here at
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birmingham shuttlesworth international airport. the ntsb's g.o. team arrived here in birmingham. we landed at about 11:00 this morning. we had an investigator on scene actually about 9:15 this morning who drove over from atlanta. and today what we've done is just a very overall initial assessment to begin planning the next steps of our investigation. but i can tell you from the preliminary information that we've gone out and gathered, from the initial ground impact -- and bear in mind that there were three strikes prior to the initial ground impact, but from the initial ground impact to the final resting point of the forward fuselage,
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which contains the cockpit area, that distance is about 200 yards. and then another 75 or 80 yards past that, closer to the runway, that is, there would be the part of the fuselage that contained of wings and the tail section. and that part of the aircraft, especially the over-wing portion, was extendively damaged by fire, the tail section of the aircraft is still smoldering, still smoking, and for that reason we have not been able to get in and get the black boxes, if you will, but the first responders are out there continues to put water, fire retardant on that section of the fuselage, so we are optimistic we will be able to get in there
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quickly and recover those crash recorders. the ntsb has responded to this crash we have a 26-member g.o. team. the head is dr. bauer, who has over 20 years of investigative experience with the ntsb. our go team, we will break it down into several groups. we will have a special group of experts looking at the aircraft's structure, power plans, survival factors. human performances, systems, we were -- we will be looking at
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everybody that may be relevant to the causation of this accident. we have members of the office of the transportation assistant. they will be helping to provide support with the family members of the victims. >> i do want to emphasize that we are just at the very, very beginning stages of our investigation. there's a lot of work to be done, and that work will begin in earnest tomorrow morning. throughout the next few days, we will be gathering factual information. our goal is to find out not just what happened, but more importantly why it happened, so that we can keep it from happening again. i want to emphasize that while
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we are here on scene, we are just here to collect the perishable evidence, the perishable information, which is, in my opinion, the information that goes away with the passage of time. so we will be tomorrow morning with the assistance of the fbi's e.r.t., evidence response team, this el will help us to document the wreckage. we'll be collecting records that we can analyze later, records for the aircraft, records for the flight crew. we'll be looking at collecting weather information, the atc tapes, those are the types of things that have already started, but will continue in more detail tomorrow, but we're not here in birmingham, we are not hear to conduct any analysis, and we will not be determining cause of the accident. and nor will we in any case
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speculate on the accident. that's robert sumwalt gives us some very, very preliminary information about this investigation that the ntsb will do on this u.p.s. flight 1354, the crash in birmingham overnight. we'll stay on top of this story. we'll take a quick break and be right back. [ female announcer ] a classic macaroni & cheese from stouffer's starts with freshly-made pasta, and 100% real cheddar cheese. but what makes stouffer's mac n' cheese best of all. that moment you enjoy it at home. stouffer's. made with care for you or your family. [ crashing ] [ male announcer ] when your favorite food starts a fight, fight back fast with tums. trusted heartburn relief that goes to work in seconds. nothing works faster. ♪ tum, tum tum tum tums! nothing works faster. for the strong and the elegant. for the authentic.
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harsh reprimand from newt gingrich, about obama care. plus the gunman and one hostage dead in a louisiana bank. what we are learning from police about the suspect's family and a possibly motive. egypt's bloodiest days since the historic revolution. i'll ask the egyptian ambassador at the top of the hour. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." ist the law of the land an an increasingly seems to be as troubled as it is controversial. we're talking about obama care implementation of one part of the law has now been delayed by the president, and it's not such a first initial glitch. our white house correspond dan lostian is joining us now in our american solutions segment. dan, what's going on right now with obama care? >> wolf, first of all, it's a very complicated law, as you know, and there are now these delays.
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what it does is it gives critics more ammunition, more reasons to discredit the law, and to remind americans that the president over-promised. >> when president obama was selling health care reform, part of the pitch included this promise. >> we'll place a limit on how much you can be charged for out of pocket expenses. >> reporter: when this requirements takes effect, the cap will be twice as here, yet another delay in the roll-out. that hitch buried in bureaucratic language on the labor department's web side -- all the individual out of pockets costs were supposed to be capped at $6,350 by next year. now certainly individuals will face two caps that combined total more than $12,000. >> there's major medical policy with prescription drug benefits from a separate provider, for example. in that sort of situation, if that prescription drug policy
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doesn't have a cap today, then under this delay, the plan would have an additional year to add that cap. >> but the white house says this cap on out-of-pocket costs still benefits consumers. >> for the first time, every sing thele american will have access to a health care plan that will limit their out-of-pocket medical expenses. that means never again will a family go bankrupt because somebody in their family gets sick. >> reporter: yesterday there seems to be plenty of confusion and criticism, as other delays and change have been quietly announced. >> they can't do that. that's against the law for him to just write the law. >> last month the white house gave larch employers an extra year to offer health insurance to full-time employees. a few days later, the bar for the government to verify consumers' salary and insurance status was lowered. in april another one-year delay to offer employees of small businesses more insurance options. in his pre-vacation news
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conference president obama insisted the affordable care act is all right benefiting millions of americans, but admitted there will be setbacks. >> there will be some glitches, no do you about it. there would be thing when they'll say we should have thought about this earlier. that's true, by the way, of a car company rolling out a new car. it's true of apple rolling out the new ipad. as for republican criticism josh earnest points out these are the same republicans that voted against the law, the same ones that tried to have it repealed. he's making the argument they don't have in credibility, and other at mrgs officials pointing out that most of this law is either on track to be implemented or already in place, and that only a small portion facing delays. wolf? >> dan lothian traveling with the president while vacationing in martha's vineyard. newt gingrich, the new dough host of "cnn's "crossfire" gave
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a verbal smackdown to the he blasted gop members of congress for not offering any alternatives speaking at the republican national summer meeting in boston, no cameras present at that meeting, gingrich said republicans have no positive replacement for obama care, said hess party is caught in a culture that rewards obstruction and negativity. he was a bit more restrained when i later caught up with him on the phone. joining us right now, the former house speaker newt gingrich. as you know, house republicans voted 40 times to repeal to get rid of obama care. it's not going anywhere, certainly the president would veto that action and now some republicans are saying they are ready to shut down the government to do away with obama care. you believe this is a mistake. >> i don't think we should shut the government down. i think we should finance all the of the government except
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obama care, and i think we should be pretardy they ought to send a bill to the senate says september obama care. i think senator reid and the president have to decide how big a crisis they want to crazy, but make clear it's their creases. there's no desire by reps to shut the government down, but i also thing and i've been in here boston talking with the republican national committee. we need to over a better future in health care. we have people like dr. mike bur juries, dr. tom price, a number of people with good ideas, and we should solidify into a republican better future in health alternative, and say, look, would you have this personal iced medicine orb -- against obama, and i think that would puts in a stronger 7gs to force the fight over obama care in october. >> because you know the president would veto any
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legislation that wouldn't fund obama care, and in effect there could be a government shutdown. you lived through two government shutdowns in the '90s. republicans paid a huge political price for both. >> yeah, you know, i thought so at the time, and then as i got away from washington and was no longer speaker and thought about it for about two years, it occurred to me that's all nonsense. the first reelected house republican majority since 1938 occurred after the shutdown. so i've always wondered, what is this big price to be paid. we got reelected. nobody had been reelected -- >> the big price was that mr. bill clinton was rea electriced in 1996. >> i don't think he was reelected because of the shutdown. >> that was certainly a major part of it. >> but he also signed the well fair reform bill. >> that was important as well. but he certainly benefited dramatically in recapturing the white house for four years
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because of those two republican-led government shutdowns. >> well, all i would suggest to you is that there are a lot of different factors in the presidential campaign, but the people who were directly responsible for the shutdown got reelected, and that nobody had been reelected -- incumbent presidents getting reelected is a lot more common than republican congress getting reelected in 1996, yet almost nobody in the media wants to look at -- why was it while clinton got reelected, so did the house republicans and so did the senate republicans? i want those are fair points. what's your biggest gripe right now? >> i don't think i have a gripe per se. i think we have to shift to a breakout approach where we show the american people they can have better health and better health care through a republican approach than they'll get from obama's. >> newt gingrich speaking with me earlier.
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for any parent who' to provide some sense of comfort. but what happens, what happens if it's the baby monitor that gets broken into? cnn money correspondent, lori siegel has the chilling details. >> imagine, your 2-year-old daughter, sleeping. and an outsider watching her through the baby monitor. that's what happened to a family in texas this weekend. they discovered the problem when they heard a man yelling at their toddler, reading her name off of her bedroom wall. >> she said wake-up amsen, you little [ bleep ]. >> the gilberts believed their device was hacked. >> it felt like somebody broke into our house. >> someone kind of did. as home automation becomes increasingly popular, there and more ways to hack your house and more devices that are vulnerable. >> i can tell this computer
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please unlock the door. >> that's a hacker unlocking your door. the smartlock is connected to a device that enables you to control your home appliances from your phone. daniel crowley, a security researcher found a flaw in that device. >> i run code on it and compromise it, set up a back door. or i can control any device hooked up to it. >> and in a world full of these types of devices that let you do anything from flush your toilet to turn on your lights through your smartphone, a hacker can make your house feel haunted. >> i can open up any of these rooms which have been associated with this device and control them. turning them on or turning them off. >> sound like something cass par would do? these security researchers found an issue with this hub that enabled them to take control of the devices connected to it. a similar vulnerability was found in a children's toy this toy rabbit has a camera that syncs with an app on a parent's mobile device, designed for keeping an eye on your kids. but someone else could, too.
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>> that traffic, i was able to capture and pull from it a url. which was the direct video feed. and as long as the access token was still valid, it hadn't been expired yet, i could watch that video feed indefinitely. >> insteon -- >> has fixed the issue identified by the researchers, verolite stresses that the hackers need a internet connection. the makers of the baby monitor and the toy rabbit did not immediately respond to cnn's request for comment. as for ways to stay safe? always paut strong pass word on your internet connection and never click on links from strangers. and wolf, i should say when it comes to the baby monitor had the couple updated their software, this could have been prevented. but that being said, when you have a baby monitor, you don't think, if i don't update the software, someone can hack in
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show your car a little love with an oil change starting at $19.95. happening now, cairo becomes a bloody battleground as troops storm supporters of the ousted president. there are hundreds of casualties and egypt is now in a state of emergency. is it on the brink, though, of civil war? i'll ask egypt's ambassador to the united states. just days after her rescue, kidnapping survivor, hannah anderson opens up about her ordeal, answering social media questions from total strangers. and brand new insight into how president obama spent his time while u.s. special operations forces killed osama bin laden. it may surprise you. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room." it's been a day of horrific
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bloodshed and chaos in egypt that began at dawn when troops moved against supporters of the ousted president, mohammed morsi, storming to large camps in cairo. there was teargas, clubs and gunfire as pitched battles broke out. the day ended with streets covered in blood. 278 people are reported dead. 235 civilians, 43 police officers. 1400 people have been wounded. egypt now in an official state of emergency. with cairo and other major cities under curfew. fighting has rage aid cross the country, and the united states, the obama administration, strongly condemning the violence, and warning against a return to emergency law. let's go straight to cairo, cnn's reza sayed was right in the middle of the action. what's the situation like now? >> well right now, wolf, it's eerily calm and quiet and that's because a curfew is in effect.
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a state of emergency declared by this interim government. several hours ago, it's midnight local time, usually this time of night, this city is buzzing, not the case because of this curfew. this calm and quiet, a stark contrast to what we witnessed earlier today. this was just an awful day and frankly, i have never seen this much bloodshed, this much use of force, the targeting of demonstrations, based on what we've seen over the past six weeks, was mostly peaceful. many are describing this as a massacre. and when you look at the staggering death toll, it's hard to dispute that description. we're getting conflicting accounts as to how many people were killed. according to the interim government, they put the number at 278. the muslim brotherhood, supporters of the ousted president, they have numbers ranging from hundreds killed to thousands. it's impossible for us, at this moment, to verify those figures. all of this of course, the fallout, the outcome of a ferocious crackdown.
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there was launched at dawn this morning against two pro morsi demonstrations, two locations. in cairo, we were at the one in east cairo. that was the major one. really the headquarters of the pro morsi demonstrators for the past six weeks, different accounts as to what happened. the interior ministry insists that they try to use nonlethal force. they came in, they say, using water cannons, teargas, they alleged that morsi supporters fired on them first, and they had to fire back. what unfolded, what followed, was hours of gunfights, and scores of people killed, wolf. i can dell you we paid a visit to the makeshift clinic there and we were literally walking on the blood of the victims meandering through the victims who were on the floor. being treated by frantic volunteer medics, who were there doing their best to treat these victims. just an awful, awful day. and now we wait for the fallout, for the implications that are going to be far-reaching for
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post-revolution egypt and this interim government. wolf? >> 43 police officers were killed during these demonstrations, that must mean that supporters of mohammed morsi, they must have some weapons, right? >> according to the interior ministry, they did. and they put out some video, showing purportedly pro morsi supporters firing weapons. we should point out that during these six weeks we've paid frequent visits, to the demonstrations in east cairo. it was impossible for us to confirm and witness everything that was going on there. but we can tell you, for the most part, these demonstrations were peaceful. however, repeatedly, this interim government claimed that there was terrorist activity there. and they used that narrative as a justification to move in, wolf. >> reza, sayah in the streets of
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cairo. president obama, joining us in the situation room, egypt's ambassador to the united states, mohammed taufiq, appointed by the ousted president. is that correct? >> that's correct. >> i want you to hear what john kerry, the secretary of state said in part reacting to a very bloody day in cairo. >> today's events are deplorable. and they run counter to egyptian aspirations for peace, inclusion and genuine democracy. egyptians inside and outside the government need to take a step back. they need to calm the situation. and avoid further loss of life. >> what's your reaction to the secretary of state? >> i think that we have made, made it very clear that the prime minister gave a statement
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this afternoon. and he said that we have put into place a road map for the future and that we are committed to respecting that road map. >> are you upset with the u.s. response? because the u.s. response clearly is deploring what the government is doing, the security forces, in addition to what the opposition is doing as well. but certainly blaming the military, the security forces, for so much of the violence. >> listen, i'm not going to comment on the u.s. position. what i will say is that this was not a solution that anyone is happy with. the loss of life is something that we all mourn very, very seriously. however, the fact as you just said, 43 police officers were killed. that is not a peaceful demonstration. this is a very serious thing. today there are news that they found mass graves in the sit-ins. this is something in the past few days, there were reports
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about people that were abducted. and tortured. and killed there. >> by the supporters of mohammed morsi? >> of course, by the supporters of mohammed morsi. and the fact that you have, it is true that the majority of the people in the sit-ins, they were not armed. but you had armed people, well-trained people. among them. so in fact, they were using these people as human shields. >> where did they get these arms? >> that's a very good question and i'm sure we have to find out -- >> what's your suspicion? >> well, my suspicion is that they have been preparing arms for, arms caches for a long time. >> are we on the verge in egypt of a civil war? >> no, a civil war happens when you have two equal sides. in egypt you have the entire egyptian population on the one hand and the muslim brotherhood on other hand. >> the muslim brotherhood represent as big percentage of the people in egypt and morsi won with 52% of the vote, as you
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remember. >> of course, but he won with the votes of people who are not muslim brotherhood members. the muslim brotherhood is not the majority of egyptians. and after today, after they have seen the attacks on the churches, seven churches were torched down. when they have seen the attacks, 21 police stations were attacked. by gunmen. police officers were killed, after they were killed, their bodies were mutilated. when the people of egypt have seen this, i don't think there's going to have a lot of support. >> muhammed ail bared elbaradei he was in the government, he opposed morsi. but he resigned today. because he said he can't take it any more. what's your reaction to that? >> that's a personal position on his part. and i think he can comment on that better than i. what i can say is the vast majority of egyptians support
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the measure that the government took today. it was not certainly what we would have desired. but it became very clear that any alternative to that would have caused even more casualties. so again as the prime minister said, this is something that we had to do, because we had to do it. not because we wanted to do it. >> here's obviously i'm a journalist, a lot of journalists were hurt trying to cover what's going on. including one photographer who used to work for cnn, was killed in the action. is there an effort by the security forces, whether military or police to go after the media to try to shut them down? >> absolutely not. absolutely -- what was happening is you had shooting from the side of the muslim brotherhood. they had people on rooftops shooting. when you have that sort of situation, then you don't know who's going to get hurt.
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certainly there had been warnings from the security people in egypt, to journalists to take care as much as they could. i know people get taken by all the action and they want to be right into it. but it's, it's something that certainly we feel very sorry about. >> as you know, the u.s. military, the egyptian military, ever are i year they have operation bright star, which is a huge military exercise in sinai, to show the cooperation between these two militaries. have you been informed by the obama administration, by the defense department, that that is being canceled for the coming weeks? >> no, i have not been informed of that. >> do you expect them to go forward, this operation? >> that's a matter that is left to the two militaries to decide. based upon their operational considerations. >> but it would be a serious blow, if the u.s. said we're not doing bright star this year? >> it would be a serious blow to both sides. because this is an operation that basically benefits both sides. >> we'll see what happens, mr.
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ambassador, thanks for coming in, we'll stay in close touch with you and as someone who has been in egypt many times, i hope things quiet down and get under control over there. >> i'm confident that we're going to be able to handle this. >> thank you very much for coming in. >> coming up, an american report anywhere cairo was beaten by the security forces, he was forced to turn over his laptop. he'll join us with his own experience. also now facing sentencing, the army private bradley manning formally apologizes for leaking u.s. secrets. she knows you like no one else.
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chris lawrence is joining us from fort mead in maryland, outside washington, d.c., what else did he have to say, chris? you were there. >> yeah, wolf, he looked emotional, he sounded emotional, but this contrition from bradley manning is coming in the final days of this hearing. as he faces 90 years in prison for his crimes. he basically started off the day by saying i'm sorry. he said quote, i want to start off with an apology. he said i am very sorry. i'm sorry that my actions hurt people and i'm sorry that i hurt the united states. he went on to say, i understood what i was doing in the decisions that i made. however, i did not fully appreciate the broader effects of my actions. he went on to explain that now he does understand that and he says, when i made these decisions, i believed i was going to help people, not hurt people. and wolf, he went on to say as he look back, he said i wonder how in the world i, as a junior
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analyst, ever believed that i could do better for the world than the people in the proper authority. he said he now understands that. but again, wolf, it's coming as he faces 90 years in prison. >> what happens next? walk us through the process. >> basically on friday, the prosecution will give their rebuttal and then the judge is going to have to come up with a number. we earl krer heard testimony from bradley manning's sister. she talked about it what it was like growing up with two alcoholic parents. someone of the hardships that bradley manning faced in his life. at one point, the attorney asked her, who was caring for bradley manning as a baby. and she said, i did, when he would cry, i would get up, i would make the bottle, i would rock him back to sleep. at the time she was only 11 years old. so the defense has been building the case that he had a tough life. that he had fetal alcohol syndrome. that he had gender issues and was very confused and wanted to become a woman. and they're arguing that the
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army missioned a lot of these psychological red flags, that should have taken him off the battlefield well before this happened. prosecutors will say he was well within his right mind and knew exactly what he was doing. >> chris, thank you, chris lawrence reporting. we'll see what the judge decides about eventual sentence. meanwhile, there's a stunning new revelation about what president obama was doing while u.s. special operations forces raided osama bin laden's compound in pakistan. reggie love was the personal aide, the so-called body man to the president, says during part of that very tense time, he and the president played cards. >> i spent the entire day at the white house. and probably, you know, typically like the weekends he's like he'll work like a half day. and this sunday, we worked the, we were there until almost, i think he went on tv at midnight.
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official investigators now on the scene of the latest deadly plane crash. a u.p.s. cargo jet that went down about a half-mile from the airport in birmingham, alabama. early this morning. very early. moments ago, they updated reporters on their investigation. cnn's rene marsh is joining us now with the latest. very early in this process. what are we learning, renee, so far. >> what we do know is the ntsb has been unable to recover those very important flight recorders. they're located in the tail of the plane. and right now the tail is still moldering. they'll have to let things cool down first and the recorders, we
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should let you know, they're built to withstand very intense heat. so they should remain intact. but it has happened three times in a little over a month. serious crashes during the critical approach and landing phase. now some aviation safety experts are wondering, if there's a common thread, and if there's something being overlooked. >> these are your normal u.p.s. boxes and envelopes and everything else that were on that particular shipment. >> pilot and aviation safety expert, kevin hyatt is waiting to learn more about what caused this latest crash. the third during the 30 days during the critical approach-and-landing phase. asiana in san francisco, southwest at laguardia. and now the u.p.s. cargo plane crashing before reaching the runway. >> are we missing something? is there something that has come up in the last three flights that we're not aware of? or have bebecome complacent? do we need to look at the technology? do we need to look at the human
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factors? >> is there a common thread, it's too early to tell. one thing will be different in the alabama investigation -- >> the key difference you would say, though is in this case, would be the cargo. >> correct. you're going to take a look to see if there was any hazardous materials in this cargo. or anything that was part of this cargo that might have caused this accident to happen. >> u.p.s. has yet to say what was on board. but in 2010, it was a pallet of lithium batteries and other combustible materials that caught fire. bringing down this u.p.s. 747 in dubai. another concern? how cargo is secured. all seven crew members on this 747 died this year when heavy military vehicles on board shifted on takeoff. hyatt says shifting cargo is not likely in the alabama crash. >> this was on, on arrival and not takeoff, like the other? >> correct. other was on takeoff, the load shifted due to the amount of
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weight that broke the restraints. this particular case, those cans are actually strapped or clipped into the floor. and therefore, you're likelihood of a shift is a lot less. >> well another question investigators will look at is did pilot fatigue play a role? the faa changed the rules requiring airline pilots have ten hours of rest and limit flight time. but the rule excludes cargo pilots. and the union representing u.p.s. pilots says that rest rules should be just as strict for cargo pilots as they are for airline pilots. so, wolf, they've take thn issue to federal court. >> they've got to learn some lessons from this as well on that specific issue. even though we don't know the cause of this crash. thanks for that report. amid the carnage in cairo, an american report certificate punched, beaten and arrested. he's standing by to tell us what happened. and can chris christie save the republican party iffrom itself? we'll show you what he's up to.
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ousted president, mohammed morsi. battles have spread way beyond cairo. there's a curfew in major cities across the country. the entire country is under a state of emergency. today's violence has been extraordinarily bloody. and we must caution you that our next report contains some very graphic pictures. brian todd has been combing through some of the strongest images, he put together a cold, hard look at the unrest. brian, what did you find? >> wolf, a lot of what we've seen today out of cairo. we cannot show viewers, it's so grisly. we're giving you the most raw images we can. along with a brutally honest take on what's happened from an analyst who has been there through some of the worst unrest. we start with the video of a protester who was cut down in an instant. as these protesters peel back, watch the man in the white hat and purple shirt. in seconds he'll be at the very least near death. in this video from cairo, from the website, liveleak, you see the man standing. after gunfire erupts, the camera
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jostles. thi then there's a crowd around him that carries him as he bleeds. this is egypt's violence laid blair, the most raw images we feel we can show from you social media. >> it's the most deadly day since the 2011 uprising. so i mean that's a good reason to expect it's a game-changer. >> a game-changer says analyst aaron trager because the egyptian military is clearly escalating against the muslim brotherhood. moving in to clear protesters who support ousted president, mohammed morsi in this picture, a scene reminiscent of tiananmen square. a woman tries to shield a wounded man from a bulldozer. a picture tweeted by a journalist, shows what the caption says is a woman shot in the head. brought to a hospital. in this photo, uploaded to cnn'si report website, several bodies are seen severely charred. we don't know how it happened. >> bodies are burned this is a
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tweeted picture of bodies lined up in the hospital. who is doing the killing? >> it seems that security forces are doing the killing. security forces came in and according to all reports, used live fire on protesters. >> but it's not always clear, in this video, apparently from a tv network, you see men moving in the same direction. the two on the other lart of the screen. are they on the same side? hard to tell when the one on the right wheels and fires, leaving the other writhing in agony. we can't independently verify any of the claims that come with these pictures of who's doing what to whom. >> for many americans and others outside egypt, the violence has become part of the background because it's flared up so recently. why do we need to be more riveted. >> egypt is 90 million people in the heart of the middle east and the stability in egypt has tremendous consequences for the stability of the region more broadly. remember that any part of the middle east where there's becomes a breeding ground for
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terrorism. >> trager says that's already started to happen in one area of egypt, the sinai peninsula. which borders israel. what's scary now, he says, is that the new round of violence signals that egypt's cities are starting to become unstable. wolf, a very bad sign. you and i were just talking in any city in america, what woo woe be saying if 300 people died in one day and 40 policemen? >> d >> it would be a disaster. and it's a disaster in cairo. >> trager said they could be escalating toward the military now. the problem with them a lot of their top leaders have been arrested. in that event, some of the more unstable and some of the more violent elements of that group could take control. watch what happens next it could spiral from here. >> brian todd. >> journalists among the casualties in cairo. at least two have been killed and "newsweek" and the "daily beast" correspondent mike giglio had a terrifying experience, he
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was beaten by police, forced to hand over his laptop and arrested. he's joining us by phone. what exactly happened, mike? >> i was at the main sit-in when the crackdown commenced. and i was able to report on it. from front of the police line to about an hour and a half. and eventually they just decided they didn't want journalists there any more and they rounded me up with a couple other journalists, and they took us away. >> what did they do? >> first they found out that i was an american, second, they found out i was a journalist and both of those seemed to be counting against me. they demanded my laptop. when i wouldn't give them the password to open it, they started beating me. and you know, i saw them beat the other journalist with me as well. they took us into a paddy wagon with about 30 other people who had been arrested from the protest and brought us to an arena nearby. where they were housing detainees. >> did you eventually give them your password? >> yes. >> did they ever return your laptop or do they still have it?
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>> they've got that they've got my wallet and they've got my cell phone. >> what about physically, did they beat you hard or what happened? >> they bunched me in the face, they punched hee in the head. i'm fine, i didn't get it too bad and i think there were a lot of journalists facing worse than i was today, dodging bullets, getting shot, getting killed. there's such an atmosphere of hatred and anger of western journalists right now that i think it's incredibly dangerous to cover this right now. >> you're talking about the egyptian military, the security forces. >> because we're not always supporting the narrative that the government wants, to be out there right now and the narrative is extremely important to the government. and the government politicians in egypt, anti-morsi activists, whether they're giving interviews or even tweeting online, and the state media and local media all trying to reinforce the same message. when they see the foreign media going against it, they really attack and they're spreading the
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idea that foreign media is working against egypt, can't be trusted. especially american media. >> you point out it could be worse for you two two journalists were killed, including mike dean, a former cnn photographer. he's been working for sky news for the past 15 years. are you familiar what happened to the other journalists who were actually killed? >> yeah, i've heard the reports and most that happened while i was detained. i guess it's not clear whether they were targeted directly and i guess it's not clear whether i was, either. in my case it was well established i was a journalist before any of this happened. so they knew it was a journalist they were beaten. they knew it was a journalist they were arresting and the two photo journalists that were arrested with me had the exact same experience. >> our own arwa damon came under fire as she was reporting, showing video of that dramatic footage. a very, very, dangerous situation. be careful over there, mike and we'll stay in close touch. >> thanks very much.
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this just coming in to "the situation room" -- a preliminary autopsy shows the man who kidnapped hannah anderson, james dimaggio, was shot at least five times. fbi agents killed him and freed anderson on saturday. now anderson has showed up on social media, typing remarkably candid answers to questions from total strangers.
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here's wians. >> it's perhaps no surprise that hannah anderson did what any teenaged girl would do after going through a life-changing ordeal. she took to social media and discussed it with her peers. 16-year-old hannah anderson is sharing details about her kidnapping on social media. she fielded questions on the site "askfm" about her abduction by the man she knew as uncle jim. >> why didn't you run? he would have killed me. why didn't you tell your parents he creeped you out? in part, he was my dad's best friend and i didn't want to ruin anything between them. >> hannah shed new light on the night she was kidnapped. the same night her mother and younger brother were murdered. their bodies burned in dimaggio's house. how did he separate you from your mom and brother? he tied them up in the garage. >> how did he keep the fire a secret? >> he had it set where it would catch on fire at a certain time.
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>> hannah also wrote dimaggio threatened to kill her if she fled and brought her at least in part to carry equipment in the wilderness. some questions from subscribers were brutally blunt. >> did he rape you? >> i'm not allowed to talk about. so don't ask questions about it, thank you. >> are you glad he's dead? absolutely. some experts questioned the wisdom of hannah's online chats. this is a 16-year-old who is totally traumatized, she's in state of trauma, so she's not thinking. sometimes in a numb said, you're doing things that you don't really consider the consequences. >> hannah posted a selfie and engaged in lighter conversation, typical of a teenaged girl, but even some of that seemed painful. what design did you get on your nails, pink for my mom and blue for ethan. those who know her tell cnn that hannah spent some of tuesday helping to plan their funerals. hannah expressed regret that she could not have done more to save the lives of her mother and younger brother, wolf?
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>> casey wian reporting. let's dig a little deeper about hannah anderson's insights, as well as her decision to go public only days after being freed. joining us from new york is the psychotherapist, robbie ludwig, what do you make of this, robbie? >> i actually thought it was very healthy of hannah to go online and to be so candid about her feelings. part of hearing a trauma, is by talking. and by feeling like your words and your experience is being listened to. of course, there's always dangers when you go online and you're speaking to an anonymous group. we don't know that that group will always be supportive. but i think what hannah experienced was so awful and devastating, that she felt supported. it seems like she felt supported. i think it's the strength of hers she wants to talk. she's not isolating and trying to process what happened to her. >> because i was surprised to see all of this. because only the other day, her father came out and publicly
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said, you know, this young woman is going to be going through a lot, give her some time to heal. if you will. and you urgeded news media for example to back away and not try to talk to her and so that's why it's interesting to see all of a sudden the exchange on the social media. site, askfm. >> it's very different if you are making a choice to reveal your feelings on social media, versus having reporters ask you questions that you're not in control over. you have to remember, this is a girl whose life was out of her control for a long period of time. so probably taking to social media felt very normal for this girl and it was almost for her getting back to what a normal 16-year-old girl would do, which is healthy. >> if she asked you, asked you for some advice, what would you tell her? >> i would tell her not to blame herself. this is absolutely not her
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fault. she's going to experience a range of emotions. that it's going to take time to heal. the human spirit is resilient. there are other people who have been through horrible situations similar to hers, who have also healed and they are available to her. there is a support network of people who have been abducted. just to hang in there and continue talking and being around supportive people. >> you got to remember with the young 16-year-old, has gone through. kidnapped. also losing her mother and her younger brother, eething, our heart goes out to her and the entire family. robbie, good advice, thanks very much. >> thanks so much. >> dr. robbi ludwig, the psychotherapist. this afternoon, the former jesse jackson senator found out how long he will be in prison. what his dad had to say today. including the es and rx.
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a stunning fall for a former united states congressman, who once was a rising democratic star. gistcy jackson junior was sentenced to prison today for misusing campaign funds, and his wife got a prison term of her own. let's got details, cnn's athena jones was inside the courtroom where it all went down. what happened? >> it was a heavy day in that courtroom, wolf. i had a chance during the break in the proceedings to speak with reverend jesse jackson senior about how his family prepared for this day. the day when they would learn how long his son and daughter in law would serve. he told me, they had been praying. an emotional day capping a spectacular political downfall. >> i still believe in the power
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of forgiveness. i believe in the power of redemption. today i manned up and tried to accept responsibility for the errors of my ways. and i still jackson jr. pled guilty in january for misusing campaign money for personal expenses like coats, high end electronics, children furniture, a $43,000 rolex watch. his wife sandra pled guilty to filing false tax returns. today they arrived in washington just steps from the capitol to learn their fate. jackson jr. was sent to prison for 30 months. less than the four-year sentence government prosecutors wanted. the 48-year-old son of civil
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rights leader jesse jackson sr. wept before the judge saying i was wrong, i take responsibilities for my actions. i know i have let a lot of people down. his attorney said the sentence was fair but called it a sad day for jackson. >> the fall from grace is complete. my client went from a respected member of congress to a convicted felon who is about to be incarcerated. >> reporter: the case has taken a toll on jackson's family, as well. >> i speak today as a father. this is home. >> reporter: after jackson serves his time his wife, sandra, will serve 12 months in prison. >> the judge agreed to stagger
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the sentences because the couple has two young children. jackson's lawyer argued his client's mental health should be accounted for. the judge said jackson's team offered no evidence to show that that condition made him steal. >> was that what he was arguing because of his mental health issues he did what he did? >> he said he takes full responsibility but his lawyers said it should be a mitigating factor. in the end he got a shorter sentence than what the government wanted. the judge did address this discussion of mental health. >> so he will serve 30 and then his wife after that will serve her 12 months? >> exactly. 12 months. up next, one of the country's most popular republicans prepares to do a little damage control. [ phil ] when you have joint pain and stiffness...
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republicans have lost two straight presidential elections but leaders of the divided party are looking ahead to the next one. can chris christie step up to save the gop? here is jim acosta. >> reporter: top republican leaders are meeting here in boston to start plotting their strategy to get back to the white house. some are wondering whether chris christie will ride to their rescue and how bumpy that ride might be.
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here is how chris christie is spending his summer crisscrossing new jersey asking voters for another term as the state's tough talki ing governo >> i won't rest until everybody who wants me back in their home has me back in their home. >> reporter: christie's reelection may seem like a tune up for 216 but the new jersey governor will have work to do. the party is divided on some big issues. listen to some at the strategy meeting where christie is slated as one of the headliners. let me ask you about chris christie. ron paul supporter is getting over mitt romney. >> i'm not a christie fan either. >> reporter: why not? >> you don't ask for fema aid
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and say you are a conservative. >> reporter: president obama after sandy there are the government surveillance programs that got him into a spat with rand paul. >> rand paul understands. he gets the whole notion of don't tread on me where chris christie is for big government. >> reporter: paul all but blushed. >> i love an endorsement with sarah palin. >> reporter: the governor is quietly building for the future recently heading to las vegas for a fundraiser where he spoke about the death of his mother. >> this is a woman who i thought would beat anything, when she looked at me and said i know i am going to die, that was my low point. >> reporter: argues christie's unconventional style will have
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appeal. >> there are people who want purists. i want somebody who will represent the nation. >> reporter: as for christie's speech on making the gop more competitive the remarks are closed to the press, a rare instance where christie's straight talk won't be heard by everyone. the political journalist jack germond died today. he co-wrote an excellent political column for many years beginning back in the 1990s he shared his insights here on cnn. he was one of our political analysts. he will be sadly missed. i used to watch him in iowa and new hampshire and learn a great
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deal from him. tweet me. that's it for me. "erin burnett outfront' starts right now. the developing story tonight, what caused a plane to crash in alabama? the fire is still burning. did the crash have something to do with something that was on board the cargo plane. at least 278 dead in cairo tonight. the obama administration still says what happened there is not a coup. are they dead wrong about the egypt. and the 16-year-old girl abducted by her father's friend gives a surprising interview online. how she says he was able to kill her mother and brother without her knowing. let's go outfront. good evening. i'm eri
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