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thank god we've got something now that's working. >> she's doing so great today. oh, my goodness, what a program we have for you tonight. we'll talk about things like activism, passion. maria bello is on the program. >> my agent fired me. i was devastated. it's the first time i thought about giving up. >> 2014 will make it 20 years since clarks changed the name. kevin smith is going to be in the red chair tonight. >> i remember calling my mom and telling her, they bought the movie. >> he's a hell of an interviewer
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and you know him as tavis smiley. >> i adore prince. >> he's your guy? >> oh, jesus, help me. >> shall we? [ applause ] >> welcome to the program. religion and the voice to the voiceless. spirituality, some of that will play into the program tonight. if you're famous as many people are in interview shows and sit in this red show, your fame is sort of useless if you don't do anything with it. i love it when artists decide they need to do more, and a lot of it will be on the program tonight. maria bello graduated from college thinking she was going into law, even though she followed another law, which was acting. she's really good at it. if you haven't seen "the cooler," you need to. but maria, her impact has gone
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past being a quality actress. it's her work in haiti, she's touched lives way beyond the big screen. here's her story. if we were going to judge a book by its cover, most would think maria bello was born to be in front of the camera. but aside from the talent, she's also very smart and if you ask her, she'll tell you she was born to help people. but it was an acting class in college that challenged her convictions. so she moved to new york and eventually she was noticed for her role in "mr. and mrs. smith." since then, she's played on "e.r."and her role in other shows. she's co-founded numerous organizations, focusing on
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haitian earthquake relief and inner city youth. she's found a way to straddle the line between a successful actor and the caretaker to the world. everybody, pleeltz say hello to maria bello. [ applause ] >> good to see you again. >> welcome. >> thank you. hello, everybody. >> welcome to the show. >> i'm so thrilled to be here. >> plenty to talk about. i just wonder for your own mind when you know you have two movies that are so different to talk about. you have a paul haggis movie, which is beautiful but not fun. >> quite intense. the great similarity between them is they were so much fun to shoot. can you imagine being on marblehead on the beach with chris rock, david spade, adam sadler, kevin james, salma
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hiyak. >> the level of yolks in that room are so heavy, you have to bring them. >> we do. but it's a joy. it's a fun, fun movie. i loved the first one. and the paul one we shot in rome. so as intense as it was, we were in rome eating and drinking great wine every night. >> can you leave those intense moments on the set? >> i can. i've never been that actor that sort of holds on to something or has to live in parts. i'm just kind of -- i like to be in the moment. i like to actually talk to someone, you know, and listen. i feel like acting is all about listening. >> i suppose because you thought being apactor was your thing. >> i didn't even know i could be an actor. my dad was a construction worker, my mom was a nurse.
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as much as i love novels, it wasn't until i was at university studying women's rights and peace and justice education, on my way to law school, that someone said i could take an acting class as an elective and i had a crush on a boy called crew who was in that class. so i said oh, okay, i'll take it. and i knew from the first monologue i did, this was my way of being of service. this is what i was supposed to do. >> in that moment, you became aware of the fact that you could get your humanity or your message or whatever it was out? >> i did, but i was terror feed. i went to my mentor, who was a priest, father ray jackson. i did one of his classes, he wrote a book that i edited for a whole summer. the first paper was on, who are your heros? i wrote ghandi and martin luther thing, mother teresa. when i decided to be an actor i went to him and cried and said i
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don't know what to do. i know i'm supposed to be of service, but now i feel like i'm supposed to act and i feel like it's such a selfish possession. he said you serve best by doing the thing you love most. >> let's play this clip here. >> neither of us is leaving until you tell me what world i have stumbled into. >> i can go around you or i can go through you. >> you're clever, i'll give you that. >> where did you find that? >> i have my entire collection of maria bello stuff. >> that was called "mr. and mrs. smith." it was so much fun. i can't believe you have that. >> when you got the call that said you got that job, what is the first call you made? >> my mother. my mother. you know, literally the first day i came to l.a. i got a job. i struggled in new york for
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eight years doing theater. i was a bar tender, i was homeless at some point. i was really beating the streets. when i came out here to visit a guy i was dating at the time, i went to an audition with him and he said oh, the casting director is from philly. she said, can you read this? i said, sure. and i read it and she gave me this role in a pilot. i couldn't believe it. and i've been so fortunate that i've worked ever since. >> tell me about the homeless experience. those moments when you were really -- that's a really tenuous place to be in one's life. >> even at the time i was moving from couch to couch to couch all over new york city. my mom would take the train up to bring me medicine when i was sick and bring me meatballs. she still talks about it. >> in many cultures, meatballs
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are medicine. >> my mom always told us about signs. when i was 22 years old, i had just gone to new york city, i went to an audition. my agent fired me and manager called me to say when you went to this audition, they said never send her to us again. i was devastated. i thought, maybe i'm not supposed to do this, i suck. i'm going down 23rd street in my army boots and crying and it's snowing. all of a sudden i see something glinting in the snow. and i stop and it's a shoe, like a golden high heel glittery shoe. and in the middle of the street i look at it and i go, oh, my god, i sit down and i put it on and it fit. and i was like, thank you, god. thank you. >> what are you going to do with one shoe? >> well, it gets better. years later, about three or four years ago, four years ago, i'm looking at my shoe and i thought, i've been blessed. i've gotten everything i ever
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wanted in this career that i thought the shoe represented. my mom said what you give away comes back tenfold. i took it to new york city, i put a piece of cardboard with the shoe stuck on it. whoever took that shoe i would love to hear if they took it. it said size 9, try this on and read the below. i wrote a little note how i promise if you find this shoe that it's a sign that your life is going to become. a month later i'm on the beach in santa monica, and my son comes up to me, mom, mom, i found your shoe. it was a gold ballet slipper. a month later i'm walking out with my boyfriend at the time, we're walking, and i look down, and there's a gold spray painted ugg in front of me. i went, what? i picked that up. i walked two steps further, there was a gold spray painted
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sneaker. it was apparently leading you to this art exhibit. so five shoes. >> so you're open to things, you're open to experiencing life in a imagimagical way then? >> i am. >> stick around. more with maria bello after this. maria bello on why women in haiti must have the power in order for things to change there, right after this. especially today, as people are looking for more low, and no calorie options.
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it's interesting now having my ngo. working in haiti, i started my own organization after the earthquake, because such a tiny percentage of money was going for women's organizations. and i find in developing countries like this, especially a beautiful nation like haiti, the women really know what their communities need. the women in the camp were so organized. they came up to us, and they showed us these notebooks and said these are all the women in the camp and this is what they need can. you help us do something? within a day, we put up a tent. within three days, we haddock fors and nurses there. within two weeks the women were running this clinic. when i said, hey, you could start these in all the camps, it only costs $5,000. they all said, well, you need a
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proposal, you know, you guys are -- i was like, i'm sorry, i'm not going to say the f word, but really, really got angry. and we would like to say we advanced because we were pissed off about that. >> how do you get these organizations to be more maneuverable on the ground? >> i find most big aid full of bureaucracy. i heard someone speak from the u.n., he's a fantastic person. this was in september, and they were talking about what they learned after the haiti earthquake. the number one thing they learned is that they can't go in and tell people what they need. the people know what the people need. and i was like, you just figured that out. >> take a look at this video here. >> please join us. together, we will learn and explore our true potential.
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>> talk about barbara. >> barbara, my partner and my inspiration. >> i love that photo. she's clearly your transportation, as well. >> that's our clinic. i met barbara, who is an artist and activiakty vest -- activist singer. and she did run for mayor. >> are you tough? >> yeah, i think in some ways i'm very tough. you know, people ask all the time in haiti and during the war, you know, kosovo and africa and the things i've seen. you've been to the morgue in haiti and isn't it so hard? i don't have post traumatic distress. one of my best characteristics and worst is i'm tough. >> maria bello, everybody.
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thank you, everybody. he's one of the great filmmakers of his generation and we have him right across from us. kevin smith coming right up. mom, dad told me that cheerios is good for your heart, is that true? says here that cheerios has whole grain oats that can help remove some cholesterol, and that's heart healthy. ♪ [ dad ] jan?
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[ applause ] welcome back to the program. you know, what you want in life is to be surrounded by friends who have got your back and sometimes you want to be the person that has to have your friend's back. when you do it at a great level, it doesn't matter what you do for a living. are you a good friend and good person? the next guest is also that guy. he's the one that turned a comic
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book collection into an empire, movies, reality series. giving kids ammunition against their parents every day they buy a new one. you may know him as silent bob. he won't be silent tonight. kevin smith! [ applause ] >> nice to see you. >> thank you. this is weird and cool for me. i don't know how to say this without sounding condescending, but i'm so proud. we met, if you remember, probably going back to around the time of "clarks 2" because i still had that office near sunset boulevard. you kept saying, i want an interview and i haven't met you prior to that. you came out to the office, we did an interview like on the porch. and you made me so damn comfortable. it was one of the first times,
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oh, these one on ones could be really fun. normally when you're on the interview circuit, you go through the junkets and they're grueling. i love to talk so it doesn't matter, as you can see. you haven't even started talking yet and it's your show. i love the talking but it's so much better to have a conversation. so you and i did that. there was no like, we've got to get through this in five minutes. we just chatted a long time. >> i remember when i started seeing your films, i was like, this is a guy that speaks my language. you used to read about the generations of filmmakers that told stories the audience could connect to. you were our guy. you and tarantino. >> me i could get. i write about -- i don't write about epic things. quentin would write about bank robberies or drug deals gone awry. i write movies about i saw a movie about a drug deal. they're both huge parts of our
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life. >> next year is 20 years, man. >> we are coming up on 20 years that i've been doing this professionally. when we made the deal to sell the movie, they bought it in purpo in the united states. and me and my producer would joke about in 25 years, we own "clarks in england," what's that going to be worth? it's worth a lot. in the beginning, we talked about being independent. i'll do it by myself, the hell with everybody else. until we were done and it's like, we've got to sell this. i'm sorry about all that stuff i said about being independent. i never felt like an independent filmmaker except for the first one. we made it to say to somebody in the future, we know how to move
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a camera around, will you give us money next time around? so like i entered the business with piss and vinegar and love with earth. i had seen the movie "slacker" on my 21st movie. >> let's play a clip. >> what do you do to earn a living? >> you mean work? to hell with that kind of work. all that does is kill tfill the bellies of the pigs that exploit us. look at me, i am making it. >> i saw that film with my friend, vinnie. we didn't talk to each other for like four, five months. went right in the back, did his job and we would close and walk away from each other at night. this is around the time of "twin peaks," so i was bring in the vcr tv and watch "twin peaks" and vinnie comes in one night and for the first time he stops
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dead and he said, you like lynch? oh, love david lynch. i was a big fan of blue velvet and that began this friendship and we started talking. he talked about wanting to be a filmmaker. my brother is gay, he's been gay forever, since he was born, but married to a dude for 20 years. he did it in a unitarian church 20 years ago. he talks about the moment he realized he was gay, the moment it fit and he was talking to other people and makes it even more clear when you talk to other cats who have similar feelings. that's what i had with vincent. it was coming out in film. it was like meeting a guy in the bathroom and tapping under the stall, like we had this thing, like you like lynch? i like lynch. so suddenly i had this buddy,
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this guy talked film 578d he was like my first film schoolteacher. he wanted to make films and i was like, i'll write the movies and you make them. sltz how did you know you can write? >> my sister, she was always writing in a notebook. one day i grabbed it from her and it was just all this writing. and i was like, what is this? she's like, i'm writing a book. i'm like, what do you mean? i'm writing a book about me and my friends. i'm like, you can't just write a book. what will the government say? i didn't understand. i was like, this is a book and i had books all around me. this is not a book. she's like, anybody can write a book. before these books were this, they were this. to it always lodged in my mind, anybody can write. so years later, we're going to see my relatives and i hated going to see my relatives. so i started writing on the big
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electric typewriter. it's like gene sheppard-esque essays about going to my relatives. i think it was about 11. so i typed up one, five pages, and gave it to my brother. he's like, what are you doing? i'm like, write thing story. he's like, you can't just wroit a story. i said, virginia said we could do this kind of thing. so he read it and he started laughing, like on the first page, he started laughing. >> how did you feel when you heard that? >> amazing. at this moment, i was like, writing. i can write a story and get this reaction. he's four years older than me. >> my sister was born august 10. one year prior to that, my
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parents loved to have sex in november. to i looked up to him. also like after every election, we lost, let's do it. so i always looked up to him and the fact that i could make him laugh. this is magic, this is what i want. when i went to college, i went for writing. my biggest dream is to write for "saturday night live." but it never happened. i never even saw famous people. so i eventually gave that up, and never thought about working at "snl" after that. i kind of crashed and burned in
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my mind in new york in 1989 after i graduated high school. i went to accomplish something and checked out early. i started hanging out with my friends, and he's like, hear, read comics. the next thing walter gives me is hockey. he's a huge devils fans. so he taught me about hockey and how to play hockey. so it was those friendships, man, that fueled everything. and it's 20 years ago now. >> stick around. more with kevin right after this. [ applause ] more with the man behind "chasing amy" next. ♪ of craving something that i can't have ♪ ♪ turn around barbara ♪ i finally found the right snack ♪ ♪
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[ applause ] welcome back. we're hanging out with kevin smith. your parents didn't dig what you did for a living, did they? >> not at first. my parents, wonderful people. >> unless it's november. >> then they were doing it like crazy as we found out. but they weren't like real achievers. my mom stayed at home to take care of the kids, my dad worked at the post office. so they're like products of the get a job, pay for your dream, which is to get married, have kids. when i said i want to be a
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filmmaker, they weren't like absolutely not, they just thought it was a phase and they knew it was an expensive phase. but i didn't bug them for money. i had credit cards that i put together in a contest with my friend to see who could get more credit cards and stuff like that. i amassed about 12, because i worked at rst video store, and i would put on my application that i was the manager and i made $50,000 a year. so they would call that number. and i would answer and they would say oh, we're doing a check on kevin smith. i'm like oh, our manager, he makes $50,000 a year. so they would send me credit cards like crazy. but i would never use them. but one day, i was like, maybe one day i can use these to finance the dream. so my brother said my parents
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thought i would get it out of my system and i would end up working at a restaurant. >> that didn't piss you off? >> not at all. i might as well said i'm going to the moon as an astronaut. it was so outside the realm of possibility. but when it mattered, when i needed them, they came through. we had been using credit cards to pay for everything. we rented this old camera, a 16 millimeter. we had to pay cash for it. they wouldn't take credit cards. it was going to be $3,000 to rent it for three weeks. so i turned to my parents and i was like, if we don't do this, this is the crucial part. we've got everything ready. my producer has flown out, but we can't shoot it. do you guys have any loot? i think at that point my father
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was making 21 k a year. so they're like, we've got 3 grand, that's all we got. that's everything. and i'm like, if you can spare it, i'll get it back. but they believed enough to say here. but when they saw the movie, they weren't like oh, my god, you've done it, my stop. not at all. i showed them the flick and after the credited rolled, i was like, what do you think? my mom is like, you spent $28,000 on that piece of garbage? all anyone does is curse. she's like, everyone is going to think that i taught you all those horrible words. so when the movie got picked up at sundance, she was like oh, is this something? i was explaining like it's a big deal. this is a good thing. they only pick 16 movies and we were one of them. i've heard of movies going to
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sundance and being picked up. so i don't know, maybe it's in the cards for us. suddenly there was hope and my mom is like, that's interesting. people like this movie of yours even though they curse so much? ma, they like it because they curse so much. so i went to sun dance and the rest was history. harvey weinstein bought the flick. they thought the movie. my mom is like, oh, thank god, he has such bad taste. she was never like one of these parents to kick you when you're down. >> what about your dad? >> dad was different. dad was the kind of guy, he was very supportive, but not like you can follow your dreams, son. do anything you want in life. my parents weren't from that school of thought. my father was like, see that
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mountain, son? never climb it. >> stick around. more with kevin after this. next on "stroumboulopoulos," lots to talk about still with kevin smith. on and off the fi, with the help of soccer stars. these free clinics, help kids gain confidence in their game, and learn how important it is to get moving every day. it's part of our goal to inspire more than 3 million people, to re-discover the joy of being active this summer. see the difference all of us can make. together. ♪ every now and then i get a little bit hungry ♪ ♪ and there's nothing good around ♪ ♪ turn around barry ♪ i finally found the right snack ♪ ♪
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we've got kevin smith with us. so your father is -- ten years since he past away? >> we just past the ten-year anniversary. we come from a pretty catholic family. as much as you celebrate somebody's birthday, you mark the day they died. it's like aunt connie's anniversary, aunt marie's anniversary. death was always a big thing in our house. my mom was always very terrified of death. i guess she went to catholic school and the nuns put the fear of death in a big way. they didn't quite, you know, explain the concept of death well enough to her satisfaction that it didn't leave her terrified. so we were raised in a fear-based environment. you know, we pulled our shades and curtains down at night.
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my father didn't want anyone looking in the house. we were home by 5:00, lock the doors. even though we lived in an insanely safe community. so i came from people that were very obsessed with death. then my mother was on the table and she died during an operation. she went out for like three minutes. i talked to her about it, what was it like? for her she had been so terrified of dying. i said, what was it? she goes, well, first thing i felt was like all the pressure was gone. like i suddenly felt like, i don't owe anybody anything. i felt so at peace. i was like, did you see a light? she said no, i was just floating. i said, did you see dead people? she said no, but i knew i was dead. my mom is like, i don't know how else to explain it, but i was comforted. i had been scared my whole life, but the peace i felt, i really enjoyed it. that came at a time that was
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essential because my father passed away a couple years later and that was her best friend. when he left, if she hadn't gone through that experience herself of knowing oh, he'll be at peace or whatever, i don't think she could have made the transition to being a widow as well as she did. he died in a wonderful, epic way. we were all at dinner together in philadelphia. i was there at a comic-con doing a q and a. my brother, sister, mom and dad. afterwards, we all go out to eat at morton's, the steakhouse, get a back room, and we're sitting around the table. dad was just sitting back, enjoying the heck out of it. as a parent now, it's easy to read, like they were like, we did it. we kept all three of these from being dead. that's your job as a parent. and they're getting along, we like us, we like them, and they're alive. we're done. what we didn't notice is my old man, who had health problems,
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fought diabetes his whole life, the whole night he's eating fillet mignon, he threw back a couple of manhattans, eating cheesecake. he was laughing. he enjoyed what he put together with this woman he met like he felt got and it. we finished the meal, put him in a cab, and i was going to see him the next day. so i kissed him and said i'll see you tomorrow. they went off. i got a phone call like 5:00 in the morning and it was my brother. he said, dad is in the hospital, get down to the hospital. so my wife is like, what's up? i said, my dad's in the hospital again. so i get to the hospital, i walk
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into the emergency room door and i saw the scariest thing i ever saw in my life. my mother terrified the and bargaining with god. i had seen her cry before and seen her be panicked and worried and stuff. i had never seen this. she was sweating bullets, crying, just white as a ghost. i could see her and she could see me when i came in, and i was like, hey. and she said, tiger. and immediately went back into oh, jesus, god, no, please, not now. like really emotional and stuff. so i looked at my brother, and my brother, you know, because she's turned now, and my brother is embracing her. so i look at my brother and he gives it to me and goes. and i was like, no. i go to the back where they lay out people and there was a nurse there and she goes, come on in. and my father is laid out on a
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stretcher, he's just gone, no life in him. i had experienced death, but not someone so vital and i had just seen hours before, a living mass of perp, having a great time. to i always spent time growing up watching a lot of tv. one of them would play "bowling for dollars." he would lay kind of on his back on the floor looking at the tv this way, and i would lay on top of his belly like this watching the teach. i was just struck by like, this is it. at this point, i was like 33 years old. i was like, you're a 33-year-old man who is never going to have the chance to do this again. you're not going to weird him out like, dad, can i lay on your belly? so i just did it for the first time in a lot of years. so i went out, saw my mom and she was still processing it. and i went outside to have a cigarette. i was a smoker in those days. so i go -- my brother comes out,
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i offer him one, he's not a smoker. i said oh, right, we're half orphans the now. we're halfway to batman. and he goes, yeah, i guess so. i said, what was it like? he goes, dad died screaming. and i said, what? he goes, dad died screaming. i said, what does that mean? he's like, he woke up, he was complaining to mom, like i'm hot, he was pushing the sheets off. she went to get him water and he bolted up and my brother got in there. and he went to the bed and he's like, are you all right? he's holding my dad and my dad seized up screaming right at the end. went down like screaming as if he was in a plane and gone. and that profoundly impacted me. life doesn't care how cool you are. life doesn't care if you're a
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hero. you're going to go out that way. i realized there's no point in this life not trying to accomplish even the stupidest dreams you have. now, if your dopey dream is to kill children, i'm not talking to you. don't do that. >> thank you so much. we'll be right back. when you make black america better, you make all of america better. so said tavis smiley, and we have him in the red chair, next. do you like to travel? i'm all about "free" travel, babe. that's what i do. [ female announcer ] fortunately, there's an easier way, with creditcards.com. compare hundreds of cards from every major bank and find the one that's right for you. creditcards.com. it's simple.
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[ applause ] welcome back to the program. so the guy sitting beside me is a broadcaster, a "new york times" best seller, a ceo, and when i first heard of him, it was him as a radio guy, a live call-in guy. now he's returning to his roots and he's back doing that. i dig him so much. tavis smiley is here. welcome, man. >> congratulations. >> thank you. thank you. true story, when cnn and i agreed we were going to do this program, when i came down here to meet and they said, who do you want on? i said, we've got to get tavis smiley on the program. because you've been able to build a career sort of outside the main stream, yet be main stream. has it felt that way? >> one of the things i love about being on pbs for ten years is i get a chance to put people
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in their comfort zones. we use these platforms to introduce americans to each other. harrison ford doesn't like to sit for conversations and he came to see me. his body language -- he sat in a chair like. this leaned all like this. it was clear he didn't want to be. it was nothing personal against me. so rather than try to fight that for a 30-minute conversation, i just leaned in like you are right now, and i said, you don't really want to be here, do you? you hate these conversations. tell me why, why do you hate them? he said no, you don't hate them. yes, you do, you really don't want to do this. if you don't want to do this, why do it? he said i'll tell you, i hate them for this, i am tired of being asked ant this, i can't talk about my project. and hi started to open up. by the time we got to the end he
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was singing like a humming bird. you have to put people in their comfort zone. when you do that, conversations become great. >> i want to go back a little bit. we just recently passed -- talk about the killing of denver smith. >> the thing that got me involved and wanting to be involved politically and socially and culturally was losing a friend to a police shooting. now, they shot denver smith -- i was a student at indiana university. he was a great football player, and they shot denver what, 21 times, mostly in his back, and said it was in self-defense. i was a student leader and i was involved and i would speak out. but this was the issue that really got me. in every one of our lives, i believe hopefully for you, it's not your friend being shot and killed by the cops. but in every one of our lives, something ought to happen that makes us decide i want to do
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more with my life than just chase success, i want to be great. as americans, whether we're republican or democrat, white or black, christian or atheist, we all want to live in a nation that will one day be as good as its promise. there's a report called the rasmussen report, where they found a slight majority of americans believe that our best days as a nation are behind us. so we have to do something about the hopelessness of all people. there's a hopelessness that's rising in this country that we have to do something about. >> your radio show is going to be part of it, because you're taking phone calls. i think much of what's happened in the news talk and political talk has become about partisanship. are you looking forward to talking to americans that way again? >> the pbs show is great. but i'm talking -- letting people talk to the nation. >> look at the radio picture here. >> that's an old one.
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we call that the high top phase. >> i'm going for that. >> remember "house party?" >> of course. >> that was my tribute. they made their mark. i've always loved radio. i love tv, but radio gives you time, you get a chance to get into the good stuff. so i can talk to people, hear their points of views, but it allows me to produce other talk show hosts. so i'm love thing opportunity to expose the nation to other people that i think have something to say and let them have their voice, as well. >> i was thinking about this, when i interviewed bob newhart, he said a richard pryor record was a window into a neighborhood you saw.
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so using pop culture today, if someone put on a hip-hop radio station, what are they learning about the culture? >> that's a scary question. that's a scare yes question. i'm going to give you my honest answer. i believe that hip-hop is still a viable art form, but it's not what it used to be. everything in music, i love music, everything about music is cyclical. i think overtime, you come back around and people understand there's nothing wrong with music having a message and a beat and being funky, and being soulful. you can do all that in one piece. marvin gaye is a good example where not everything you do has to be socially redemptive. >> one off feeds into the other. >> absolutely.
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>> let's say it's 2:00 in the morning, you're having a moment. you've got a go-to song. set the mood. press play, drop the needle. >> what am i going to? >> listen, tavis, your dream night. >> 2:00 in the morning. >> yeah, you don't have to get up in the morning. >> it's hard. there's a lot of good stuff to choose from, but it is hard, really hard to beat "adore" by prince. >> he's your guy? >> oh, the lyrics to that song. one day god struck me blind, your beauty i would still see. oh, jesus, help me. >> tavis smiley, everybody! [ applause ] pleasure
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