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decision? how much time does she have? >> she could rule from the bench. i think we could expect a relatively quick order. i think you'll see the same here. >> thanks, mark. appreciate it. that's it for me. have a great afternoon. brianna keilar takes it from here. thank you, suzanne. i'm sitting in for brooke baldwin. the world waits as there is a strike on syria. president bashar al assad accused of using chemical warfare on his own people. the next questions, exactly how and when? today defense secretary chuck hagel told the bbc that the u.s. is ready to go. if president obama orders an attack on syria. >> well, as i said, and i think prime minister cameron has said, i think president oulan, our allies, partners, leaders all over the world have said, let's
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get the facts, let's get the intelligence and then a decision will be made on whether action should be taken, if action should be taken, what action on no action. >> but if they were to come, you're ready to go? >> we're ready to go like that. >> much of the speculation over syria's use of chemical weapons as secretary of state john kerry took the podium at the state department. kerry said he has little doubt that the man he himself sat down with for a meeting in 2009 is responsible for the, quote, indiscriminate slaughter of civilians. >> what we saw in syria last week should shock the conscience of the world. it defies any code of morality. let me be clear, the indiscriminate slaughter of children, killing of women and children, and killing by chemical weapons is a moral
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obscenity. by any standard it is inexcusable and despite the excuses and equivocations that some have manufactured, it is undeniable. >> our fred plightkin is in syria. let's bring in chris lawrence. chris, this all leaves one big question here. what might an attack on syria look like? >> reporter: that depends on which option the president chooses. i know from speaking with officials here in the pentagon, one of the options, probably the most limited option really involves the cruz misz sisile option. that is the four navy destroyers launching cruz missiles into land targets on syria. now the official told me that this could be a very short mission, over within two to three days. there would be some initial strikes and then depending on
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the number of targets and where they were located you would have an assessment phase to see what was hit, what damage was done, then perhaps more strikes to compensate for anything that wasn't hit and needed to be hit to complete the mission. >> now stand by for a moment. we'll bring in fred plightkin. he's live in damascus. you heard what the expectation is there. there's also the possibility of a strike from the air. logistically the u.s. could do it. syria has pretty good strong air defense. what do you think the expectations are there on the ground? >> reporter: well, i think the syrians are starting to understand just how serious the united states is about all of this. they came out of an interview with the information minister. he kept saying that the syrians will defend themselves. the syrian military is capable of defending themselves. he wishes the united nations
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would wait for the u.n. weapons inspectors to finish their work. they know there is no way they could defend against the united states airstrikes even though they say they kompt the one thing they're saying is please give the weapons inspectors a little more time to do their work. the rhetoric has toned down from what i heard a few days ago. if the syrians were saying if they were to be attacked, they would have no trouble defending themselves. every time i've put to the information minister that it seems as though it's not about if the united states and its allies are going to strike, it's when and how. he says he hopes there is some way to avoid that. he keeps on talking about the united states not having a u.n. mandate. there really is a change here that you're noticing among the syrian administration, at least from the officials that i'm talking to, brianna. >> that is fascinating. it does, as you say, fred, seem to be a matter of when and not
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if. fred is the only western journalist there. in 2005 cnn's christiane amanpour traveled inside syria. i want you to listen to what he says about retaliation for u.s. air strike. >> we don't know what they want. i think they don't know what they want. >> there's lots of talk about potentially the u.s. bombing safe havens and insurgent strong holds inside sir yeah has that happened? >> never. >> if it does happen, would you consider that a hostile act? would you retaliate? >> translator: we'll deal with every situation if and when it happens. i cannot really go into hypotheses at this point. however, there is no safe haven or camp that is going to be
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zblomd mr. president, you know the rhetoric of regime change is headed towards you from the united states. they are actively looking for a new syrian leader. they're granting visas and visits to syrian opposition politicians. they're talking about isolating you diplomatically and perhaps a coupon de ta from your regime. what are you thinking of that? >> i feel very confident. i was made in the united states. this is syrian decision should be made by the syrian. >> fascinating, right? joining me is john king and general mark himmick. we're talking a lot about what we would expect a military operation to look like. what would you expect, general? >> first of all, i think many of the options that were pointed out by chris lawrence were right.
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we have to be very easy to understand that. the tough point is where the president has to make the decision to take military actions. the tougher part is what happens after those military operations have been accomplished. what is post war, post military operations look like? what are we going to be doing after the dust has settled? >> john, you have the latest poll numbers here. there's a majority of americans who don't like the idea of syrian intervention but when you talk to sources in the administration, they also say, you know what, this mass chemical weapons attack sort of makes the decision a lot easier for us. >> i wouldn't say a lot easier but they would say a moral imperative. that's a difficult decision. even if it starts with cruz missiles, you have personnel on those ships. you have planes in the air. there's no knowing even if you start saying we're going to launch with cruz missiles that you're going to end can that.
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part of the opinion is because this president in 2007 has said elect me and i will get us out of the middle east. i will end iraq. we will come home. we will not be off doing this. he defined himself by that. now he's facing a tough choice, not only to have a military intervention in a region he wanted to pull out of in terms of military action, but also doing it without the blessing of the united nations. being president is the loneliest job in the world. the president knows if the plan he is going to sign off on, he knows as commander in chief, he might know how it begins but you never know how it ends. >> that's a very good point. he's made this decision on libya and it appears he may have a few
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questions. >> it suggested that the u.s. go to the source. none of our sources are suggesting that even though the president considers that assad has to go, that he's lost all legitimacy. why not? >> what i read from that same article in the wall street journal was that the half measures wouldn't work. they could be counter productive. by simply trying to isolate this as an attack on syria, as number one punishment for the chemical attack and, number two, to potentially deter any future adversary from using chemical weapons without understanding there will be a response, it leaves the entire rest of the story unfulfilled. once the attacks have been done, once the booms have been dropped, you still have assad in power. you end up with a region that doesn't believe the americans are serious. a president in syria who still remains in power and people
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still getting slaughtered on the grouped. we need to make sure if we're going to take the first step, we need to be ready to go all the way to the last step as well. >> how will syria react and how will its allies know. john king and general kimmett, thank you very much. any reaction can have the general effect. wall street has been jittery. in market speak, brianna, it's called geopolitical concerns. the growing fear of u.s. military action in syria has rattled world markets. here's how the syria fears play out. investors rush out of stocks around the world into the perceived safety of government bonds and gold. oil prices also rise. now syria is not a major oil producer but its location makes it important for oil transport.
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conflict increases the chance of collateral damage. higher oil prices would hurt the world economy. it would raise gas prices hitting consumers who are already showing plans of cutting back. ben bernanke is slowing stimulus and tapering the bond buying program. if you add a military strike to syria, you could see weaker corporate earnings and that would certainly be bad news for the stock market. brianna? >> thank you. coming up, a tell evangelist tells them to be skeptical about that. now a measles outbreak has hit the church. plus. >> they shot my baby in the head and i had to watch him die.
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leaders of a texas megachurch have experienced a different kind of epiphany, not about the spirit, but about the body. the church north of fort worth is now backing measles vaccinations after an outbreak hit the congregation. this is church video of a sermon asking people to go ahead and get the shot. the local health department reports so far 16 cateses are linked to eagle mountain after a visitor who was from overseas attended the service. kenneth copeland once cast doubt over immunizations. >> immunity, vaccination, spiritual induced immunity from sickness and disease. >> while the fort worth star
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telegram said copeland as recently as four years ago prepared, quote, that parents should be skep at the call and don't take the word of the guy that's giving the shot. even during a recent service when advising church members to get vaccinated kenneth copeland's daughter quoted a doctor on "believers voice of victory." >> i believe it's wrong to be against vaccinations. the concerns we have had are primarily with very young children who have family history of autism and with bundling too many at one time. there's no indication that the autism connection with vaccinations in older children. >> so joining me now to talk about this, senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen. you're listening to these concerns, autism, vaccinating the very young, bundling of the shots. is any of that valid? >> every respected authority says vaccinate your children. you are not causing autism or any other kind of harm.
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vaccinate your children. you're doing it for two reasons. you're doing it to protect your child and you're also doing it to protect other children because, of course, children give each other these diseases. i'm going to be a little bit harsh here. if you decide not to vaccinate your child, that's your choice, right? you want to put your child at risk for dieing, that's your choice, but you know what, you're hurting other children, too, and it's just selfish. >> measles is obviously very serious. the u.s. has nearly eradicated it. most of us have not seen a case. >> that's right. you get some red dots on your face. >> chicken positi een pox. >> it's a huge deal. before we had routine vaccination in the world, people would die. 2.6 million people would die every year from measles worldwide because there wasn't vaccination. so we don't want to go back to that. we don't want 2.6 million people dying from a disease that's
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some very tense moments for a window watcher in clayton, missouri. can you even imagine this? part of his equipment failed and it left him dangling outside the 24th floor of an apartment building. fire crews quickly pulled him up and over the edge to safety. investigators are trying to figure out why his equipment failed. very scary stuff as they were able to help him inch up to safety. look out. a truck comes barrelling through the front door of a massachusetts convenience store. one shopper came within inches of that truck. you see the driver trying to back out. here's how one man described the scene. >> heard a loud crash and squealing tires and i knew something was amiss. i ran out into my front yard to
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see a pickup truck entering and exiting the building. >> into the a single bottle broken here? >> no. we lukd out big time here. the alcohol fairy was with us. >> police eventually tracked down the driver of the truck. he is facing a number of charges as you can imagine. that customer is expected to be okay. coming up next, the rim fire in california has burned more than 160,000 acres. now it threatens san francisco's water supply. is the pressure surrounding the conflict in syria intensifies, a warning from russia as president obama gets ready to make a trip there. we have that next. [ phil ] whee joint pain and stiffness... accomplishing even little things can become major victories. i'm phil mickelson, pro golfer. when i was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis, my rheumatologist prescribed enbrel for my pain and stiffness, and to help stop joint damage. [ male announcer ] enbrel may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal events including infections, tuberculosis, lymphoma, other cancers,
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generators which have been shut down. it also threatens the reservoir which supplies san francisco's water. that's also nearby there. gray smoke has been choking the air for miles around the fire as about 3700 firefighters battle the flames. the fire service says the main goal at this point is just to keep people safe. >> it was astounding to see the power of what i witnessed earlier. so our main objectives right now, structure protection, just making sure that we keep everyone safe and we protect that park at all costs. >> dry conditions and steep terrain are making this fire pretty hard to get a handle on. in california park officials say it's one of the largest in state history. let's get back to the escalating crisis in syria. chuck hagel said today that the u.s. military is ready to go if called upon by the president to respond to the mass deaths last week from that alleged attack with chemical weapons. secretary of state john kerry cited video, some of this video
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of the victims in his extraordinary condemnation. >> anyone who can claim that an attack of this staggering scale could be contrived or fabricated needs to check their conscience and their own moral compass. what is before us today is real and it is compelling. >> now that could also be taken as a swipe. i think it's fair to say it was, at syria's backer, russia, which says the u.s. has no evidence that the assad regime was behind the attack. the russians say a response could be catastrophic. phil black has the very latest on this from moscow. >> reporter: brianna, more tough talk from russia. the united states is behaving like a monkey with a grenade. the russian foreign ministry has warned against the latest attempts to bypass the united nation's security council by creating artificial and
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groundless executions for military intervention. it has what would be catastrophic consequences for countries across the region. the latest statement comes from the stalling of the talks in the hague. it was supposed to come up with a proposal or international culprit that would solve the syrian conflict diplomatically. that the u.s. has postponed those talks as it is working out how to respond. russia says that's a bad idea because it delays this sort of coordinated effort is what is needed now more than ever as the situation in syria becomes increasingly tense. russia has little choice at the moment but to issue the strongly worded statements and try to argue its case against military intervention because its most effective resource for protecting the syrian government from outside pressure and
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military action has always been its veto in the united nations security council. now as the united states and the allies contemplate the responsibility of launching a military strike against syria, they are not talking about going to the u.n. security council to get help there. >> phil black. thank you. cairo, members of the arab league met in emergency session and accused the assad regime of committing a, quote, heinous crime. syria says they did not use foreign weapons. here's the foreign minister speaking from damascus. >> they say the syrian forces are the ones who used this weapon and i categorically denied this matter. i said there's no country in the world use weapons of mass destruction against its people. >> meantime, cnn's nic robertson is in aman, jordan.
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joint chiefs chairman martin dempsey was there. we heard fred plikman there. he hoped military action could be averted. are you getting the sense that folks realize it is a matter of when and not if? >> reporter: yeah, sure. the sense is that there is the potential for strikes and they could come really soon. the reason and rationale is quite simple. a regional diplomate said, look, unless there is some kind of reaction to the chemical strike, and pretty much they hold accountable bashar al assad, unless there is some reaction to that, then the geneva peace talks that have been talked about so much will either be dead in the water or still born, he said. doesn't necessarily have to be a military attack but really he
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said that is the implication. the reason they will be dead in the water unless there is some reaction is that the only way the peace talks work is that if both sides, the rebels and the government, believe that they cannot win mill ttearily. bashar al assad believes he can be using chemical weapons. he will continue in that vein. so for a peace to work, there needs to be a response. that's the expectation here, brianna. >> many sources are saying, you know what, any sort of response is going to be to hold syria accountable. they still want what they consider this diplomatic process to move forward or at least that's what they're saying. nic, i want to ask you about syria's allies. they may be the wild card in all of this, how they decide to respond? >> reporter: well, iran has the real potential to stir up more
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trouble in lebanon, to the west of syria. the problem there, iran's ally hezbollah is based there. hezbollah fighters inside syria supporting bashar al assad. they want to keep that link to hezbollah and keep that pressure on israel. how this will shake out it's expected if there were strikes and iran wanted to, it could create problems, trouble, explosions, bombs as we've seen recently in mosques in lebanon. this sort of terrorist type activity could take up and lead to an escalation of the sectarian tensions, the same kind of sectarian tensions that exist today exist in lebanon that could spark even greater problems we've seen. that's how iran could play into this. >> that is the predicament as president obama weighs his options. nic robertson, thank you so much. coming up, george zimmerman
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is about to ask florida for some cash. 200 grand, in fact, find out what that's for. plus, as thousands get ready to march tomorrow to honor the 50th anniversary of the i have a dream speech in washington, one republican says race shouldn't even exist in america anymore. well, i'll speak live with someone who's never shy about voicing his opinion. first, speaking of tomorrow's march, one of cnn's "cross fire's" hosts shares a moment from the show next month. check it out. >> well, the country's about to celebrate the 50th anniversary of dr. king's i have a dream speech. at this point it's almost impossible to imagine that it was ever controversial to want to honor dr. kicng, it certainl was to jerry falwell. >> why not a martin luther king day? >> i just feel that there are
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giving americans a chance to reflect on how much has changed and how the nation still restless with the issue of race. entertainer and civil rights activist harry bella ffonte wasn that stage. he gathered a group of stars to lend their support to the event. >> myself personally, my task was to organization a contingency to come to the march on washington. >> i give you mr. bert lancaster. >> paul newman, lena horn, sammy davis junior. >> all of them looked to harry as their spiritual political moral civil rights mentor because they knew his close relationship to dr. king. >> one of the things i said in
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my conversations with the ken disin discussing why they should be more yielding in their support of our demonstration was the fact that there would be such a presence of highly profiled artists that that alone would put anxiety to rest, the people would be looking at the occasion in a far more festive way. >> harry bellafonte joining me from new york. thank you so much for your time. i know this is a period of reflection for so many people at this point. people look back. they say what's happened? what progress has been made? there is now an african-american president, but what do you see as the unfinished business from that march? >> well, the unfinished business from that gift that was given us by the people who struggled in that great campaign is the fact that we are watching those gains made through so much struggle, through so much sacrifice,
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through so much violence to in fact now be in the process of being dismantled, what's going on in north carolina, some of the things we've seen down in florida with the trayvon martin murder, with what we see going on in the supreme court and the reversal of the laws that were put in place to protect our voting rights and our voters. that was a big part of our campaign. to see all of that under threat now is deeply disturbing, but i'm convinced that there is an america that will be awakened to this reality and step into the breach and begin to re-campaign all over again to say you cannot, you cannot dismantle the gains made by the citizens of this country. >> obviously and just to your point there race is still very much an issue, but i want to get your feedback on something that louisiana's republican governor said very recently, bobby jindal.
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they need to stop emphasizing what they called our separateness. i wonder, the republican party has realized they need to reach out to more minorities and they realize that from the last electi election. do you think jindal's comments help? >> yes, they help. for america to have a discourse we need to have all parties, both parties and other parties may come to the floor to be able to have a discourse representing all of the citizens of our nation. the republican party has been somewhat severe in recent years in its behavior in relationship to the minority vote, the vote of color, whether it be black americans or latino americans.
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we are in a bit of an edgy place. >> the republicans did not fare very well when it came to minority voters. we'll see how that goes. perhaps some of you might say the unfinished business of civil rights eras. >> i'm glad to hear that colin powell has raised his voice to this indiscretion on the part of the republican hierarchy. i'm very glad to see him stepping in and saying although we may have political differences, there is an america that we all ascribe to and it's an inclusive america. republicans, democrats, all people who want to get on with the democratic process need to have an inclusive process. >> harry belafonte, thank you for your time. we appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up, a teenager on trial for allegedly killing a baby in a stroller while his mother watched. >> i didn't realize, you know, that it was real. it didn't look like a real gun,
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and killed on a street in brunswick, georgia, in broad daylight is recounting the traumatic event against marquise elkins. two teenage boys allegedly walked up to sherry west and demanded money. they shot her 13-month-old boy in the face as he sat in his stroller. the trial generated so much publicity that they had to move it to the suburb in marietta county. moments ago an emotional sherry west took the stand talking about the morning of the shooting. >> i dressed him and put him for a nap at 7:00. >> and how long did the baby sleep? >> he took a morning nap from 7:00 to 8:00. >> and he woke up at what time? >> 8:00. >> and what did you do then? >> i dressed him to go out.
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>> tell the court and the jury as best as you recall what you dressed him in. >> it was cold. he had, i think, sweatpants and a sweatshirt and mittens and a hat. >> did he have some kind of a little fuzzy hat that you put on his head? >> to match his mittens. i'm sorry. >> hln's jane velez-mitchell is joining me from new york. that's very moving testimony, jane. this is the star witness from the prosecution. i have a hard time keeping it together watching her testify. i imagine the jury's going to he r react the same way. >> thinking about this 1-year-old shot through the eyes and killed in that manner. it's incomprehension sinl. brianna, there's a trend now in criminal defense work.
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the defense really wants to blame the victim and if possible let's turn the victim into a total monster and that's what the defense team in this case has done with this mother. they have actually in motions and other ways tried to suggest that this woman is responsible for her own son's death and they have called her every name in the book, they've said she's a crack addict, they've accused her of trading sex for crack and the fact is that the prosecution says they've got the right to defend it and this defendant tried to rob somebody else in a very similar manner ten days earlier and that other victim, a pastor, took the stand and described being shot by this teenager. so the idea that these -- go ahead. >> let me ask you this about. this is a mom whose literally -- i mean, she basically whimpered as she's describing the mittens that she put on her son this morning and then you compare that to the defendant who, yes,
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as you just mentioned, allegedly committed this other murder just days before the baby was shot. how does that even -- how is the jury going to weigh that? could they even do you think be swayed by this? do you think the defense should have taken a different tact here? >> i think the defense should have taken a different tact. i understand that everybody's entitled to a defense. this trend i'm seeing, we saw it with jodi arias, trying to turn the victim into a pedophile, which was certainly not true. now this is a trend in criminal defense work. it's absolutely obscene. this woman has lost her precious child and now they're suggesting that she did it, that she's the real killer and she did it to get insurance money? apparently it's very complicated because she doesn't have a great relationship with her adult daughter who gave an interview saying that, well, you know, i don't know. it's kind of suspicious. they've taken that ball and run
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with it. >> i think it is a horrible trend and certainly we will wait to see the outcome of this case and we'll be talking with you. thank you. >> thank you. coming up, george zimmerman was acquitted in the murder of trayvon martin in florida. he's said to ask the state for at least $200,000 to pay for his legal costs. why? we have that next. [ male announcer ] this is jim,
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george zimmerman is telling the state of florida, pay up, please. his lawyers are preparing to ask florida to reimburse them at least $200,000 for court costs. zimmerman was acquitted by a jury in july on second degree murder and manslaughter charges in the shooting death of trayvon martin. >> reporter: joining me is joey jackson. let me talk to you. do you think the state will go ahead and reimburse this in full or in part? >> i think ultimately it will be in part. why? there is an audit done. the audit determines whether the fees are appropriate. are they documented properly. what's interesting, this is really a legislative issue. the legislative issue, they
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thought they should have a statute that says, listen, if you're acquitted you can make application for your resources back. that's exactly what this is. i understand also, brianna, there's a lot of concern this is not relevant, appropriate, something that should happen. the legislature enacted this law and to that extent he'll be able to apply for these fees and get part of them back. >> when you look at the law, obviously he does have a case to make here and, lisa, to you, zimmerman and his wife were accused of lying at their bail hearing. this is last year when they said they had no funds yet they did raise hundreds of thousands in donations. do you think that's going to play a part here? >> i absolutely think it should play a part. i would encourage the state of florida to push back, what's happened to that several hundred,000 of dollars. what's happened to that money? is it all gone? i mean, the attorneys for george zimmerman have said they have not been paid so where has that money gone, between $200,000 and
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$400,000 depending on what report you believe. why should the state of florida pay for that if he has that resource to draw upon? >> where has that gone. i'd like to know. lisa bloom, joey jackson, thank you. unpredictable and moody. that is the description of bashar al assad from one of the few people who have gained personal access to the syrian president. we will take you inside the mind of the dictator.
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the j.d. power award for highest ranked large car in initial quality. a recent speech by a sophomore at georgia tech is lighting up the internet. have you seen it? it's pretty good. well, the timing could not be better as it turns out. tom foreman explains in this week's american journey. >> if you want to change the world -- >> reporter: maybe no one else in the country whipped up more excitement about math and science this month than georgia tech sophomore nick selby whose rousing speech to incoming freshmen has been seen more than 2 million times on youtube. >> if you want to build the ironman suit, you're in georgia
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tech, you can do that. >> reporter: but at schools everywhere, especially those where science, technology, engineering and math, the stem studies are king, a more profound excitement has been steadily growing. georgia tech president, bud peterson. >> people realize that in order for a country to remain competitive globally, they have to have a work force that's trained and educated in the stem fields. >> the white house certainly knows it. the president wants to see 100,000 new stem teachers trained over the next decade. >> a higher education is the single bets investment you can make in your future, and i'm proud of all the students who are making that investment. >> reporter: and all of this is not just about making the country more competitive. researchers have found students in stem fields generally enjoy better returns on their education investment with more job options and higher salaries. an average engineering graduate,
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for example, can easily start at 65,000 a year, and with one out of five american jobs now stem related, that's enough to make students and parents at many strong stem schools very excited, indeed. >> i am doing that! >> reporter: tom foreman, cnn, >> reporter: tom foreman, cnn, washington. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com hi, there. i'm brianna keilar sitting in for brooke baldwin. first up, we know that the u.s. will punish syria. after two years and five months of attacks on its own people, president bashar al assad crossed what the u.s. called the red line. one step too far in this civil war using chemical warfare on his own people. today defense secretary chuck hagel told the bbc that the u.s. is ready to go if president obama orders an attack on syria. >> well, as i said, and i think prime minister cameron has said,
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i think president ouran has said, our allies, leaders, partners all over the world have said, let's get the facts, let's get the intelligence, and then a decision will be made on whether action should be taken, if action should be taken, what action, or no action. >> but if the order comes, you're ready to go like that? >> we're ready to go like that. months of questions came to a head on monday as secretary of state john kerry took the podium at the state department. kerry's saying he has little doubt that the man he himself sat down with for a meeting fwh 2009 is responsible for the quote, indiscriminate slaughter of civilians. we're being joined by damascus. fred is the only western journalist inside syria. fred, you've been talking with the information minister there. i find it pretty fascinating what he said. tell us about it.
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>> reporter: well, the information minister basically prodded the line the syrian government continues to use. they continue to say they're not responsible for using chemical weapons here last wednesday in the damascus suburbs. they say all of this was fabricated. they think that the u.s. is using what is fabricated evidence to go to war in syria. they have said that the u.s. is trying to fight a pretexts to go to war here in this country. they keep saying that the united states should get the u.n. chemical weapons inspectors on the ground here, they should be given more time to evaluate things and then a decision should be made on how to move forward. however, it does appear very clear that they do realize that it doesn't seem to be a question of if the u.s. and its allies will strike, but when. you hear them tone down their rhetoric a lot in the recent hours really.
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before they kept saying syria was going to defend itself in every way, shape or form if it was attacked, now all of that seems subdued, brianna. >> you think the syrian response might be here or what we can see from syria's allies? >> well, i think that would depend on what sort of action was taken. if there was limited action, i'm not sure there would be any action at all. remember, the israelis, for instance, struck this country for several times. i was on the ground when they hit a gigantic weapons depot here. there was some rhetoric coming out of damascus. there wasn't any other sort of response to that. certainly no military response. i would be very surprised if there was a response if the u.s. and their allies do cruz missile strikes. we have to remember that most of
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the gears they have is from the 1980s. no match to what the united states has. on top of that, you have the fact that this military is engulfed in the civil war that is stretching it to the max at any case. the last thing the military needs is to open another front against an adversary that is much more powerful than the syrian military, brianna. >> fred plikin in syria. thank you very much. u.s. ally great britain is putting the wheels in motion. prime minister david cameron is calling parliament home saying syria has crossed the line. >> let me stress to people, this is not about getting into a middle eastern war, changing our starts, going further into that conflict. it's nothing about that. chemical weapons, the use is wrong and the world shouldn't stand idly by. >> despite the urge to act now, this is a fight that washington, london, and nato have gone to great lengths to avoid. here's a sobering thought today
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from national security analyst peter birgen writing at cnn.com. whoever prevails is hardly going to be an ally of the u.s. it's an ungodly mess. in short, a problem from hell. on that note, let me introduce mike baker. he's a former cia agent, "time magazine" editor at large and gloria borger. mike, i want to start with you. one of the things we're waiting for before president obama makes his final decision is this intelligence assessment. how quickly are we expecting this. is this something that's perfunctory or does this at this point lead his decision making? >> well, hopefully it will lead the decision making. it's separate from the u.n. investigative team's efforts. if i'm smiling, it's only because i can't imagine anything more feckless on the ground than
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a u.n. security investigations team. the intell is important. i'm hard-pressed to see how they have any other options at this stage. when you use the words undeniable evidence and no doubt and you combine it with red line and moral obscenity, you have no place to go other than to push the button for the cruz missiles. they have to take a measured response and so like a lot of things, there's not a lot of options on the decision tree. i think what they're doing now is setting the table with the public and with congress as opposed to trying to see if they've got enough intelligence because if they don't, then they've clearly misspoken out of the white house and the state department. >> okay. gloria, to you. if they've misspoken, it seems rhetorically they've already laid the ground work for what we would expect to come, which would be a strike from the ships, the warships that are out in the mediterranean. it's hard to fathom that even
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though the administration will not say a decision has been made, it's hard to fathom that anything besides this happens or is that overstating it? >> no. i think what we're watching first from secretary kerry, then the notion that they'll declassify some of this, making their public case, what we're watching is the rollout of this. i think it's a question of when we're going to do this, not if. i think they're trying to get as much of a coalition together as they can. the spec tore ter of iraq not materializing there, it kind of haunts all of this. they want to make sure they have the evidence. they want to make sure they have a large coalition in place and, you know, they want to be absolutely sure and try and get the american public to understand this before they go do something. >> and, bobby, when you're talking to folks, what do you feel the administration is trying to achieve here? is it to just punish syria?
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is it to do something more than that? and obviously there's a lot of risks with whatever they're trying to do. >> my fear is at the moment it's sounding very much like a wrap across the risks for bashar assad. a lot of the language has been couched so carefully about we're not in the business for regime change, not trying to change the balance of power on the ground. all we want to do is send bashar assad a message. bashar assad doesn't take messages like that. this is a man without whem call weapons. to prevent him from using further chemical weapons, it's not going to stop him from slaughtering another 100,000 of his people in the next 12 to 14 months. it's unclear what the end game is?
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>> do you think it's not okay to send the message to syria but other foes. if we draw a line and you cross it, we're going to do something. obviously i think of iran. >> yes. that is the hope. the message has to be a strong one. if the message is not even strong enough to deter assad, then it's not going to be strong enough to deter tehran. this is carrying a small stick. that's never been known to work in a war. >> 9 question is if you can't carry a large stick because you don't want to get bogged down in a quagmire in their civil war, do you sit back and do nothing as chemical weapons are used. >> i don't think going in a -- a big still involves boots on the ground here, sorry to mix
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metaphors. use cruz missiles to take out larger parcels -- assad's arsenal, not simply to sort of slap him across the knuckles. take out big chunks of his air tower. not two days worth of cruz missile strikes. >> if i had another couple minutes i would call you on that interesting freudian slip where you said saddam there. it's an interesting question to ask. i'm go to have to looef it at that. mike baker, bobby ghosh and gloria borger. coming up, we all know flying can be frustrating. you have your long security lines, baggage concerns and of course those crying babies. one carrier says it has a solution to one of the problems at least. next an airline with an age 12 and over policy? plus, a 40 year secret, did
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couldi icooing babies are c crying babies? yeah, that on a plane when you're trying to sleep, it can make you feel cursed, right? well, now there is an option for passengers who are willing to pay a little more for a kid free zone. this is being offered by an airline in sing singapore called scoot. how much does it cost to sit in the zone. if you're on an airplane with a screaming baby, it doesn't matter where you're sitting. you can still hear it? >> reporter: absolutely not. couldn't disagree with you more. if that baby is in row 39 f and you are up in row 6, you won't
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hear the baby over the engines. for $15 or so, sometimes up to 20, $25 scoot is joining other asian airlines, like malasian, like air asia, in offering these kid free zones at the front of the aircraft. this is a straightforward raisi airline, but it is also a reflection of demand, particularly in asia where you have lots of overnight flights down to ausz stral yeah from singapore, from bangkok, and people are basically saying, we paid for a -- we want to be able to travel in a business environment and that includes not having to listen to children whaling. it may not be pleasant, brianna. it may not be politically correct, but that is what people and passengers are saying. >> it's not even the crying. sometimes it's the kids kicking the seat that really gets me, i
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will say, not necessarily babies. >> it starts with -- it starts with an -- at 3:00 in the morning you know what's coming. it turns into a full scale whale running up and down the aisle. i have come off the fence. as the presenter of cnn business traveller, i have come off the fence. ban babies in business class, and for good reason. you don't allow a child to go to the theater or a movie theater and whale. you have no problem in saying that's not acceptable, but we allow people to bring their children into business class where people are paying thousands of dollars on trans atlantic or trans pacific flights and we think nothing of sort of saying, actually, it's a business environment. if you can afford it, go into first, otherwise, back in economy, but business is business. >> and richard quest, ladies and gentlemen, has spoken on this topic.
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richard, thank you. well, you know it's perhaps the most famous tennis match in history. billie jean king versus bobby riggs. they say this battle of the sexes may have been rigged and it may have involved the mafia. wait until you hear this bombshell next. over 20 million drivers are insured with geico. so get a free rate quote today. i love it! how much do you love it? animation is hot...and i think it makes geico's 20 million drivers message very compelling, very compelling.
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a stunning new claim that the mafia fixed a match that millions of americans watched. maybe you remember this. 1973, all eyes were on the battle of the sexes tennis match between billie jean king and bobby riggs. well, king went on to beat riggs in straight sets but did riggs lose on purpose to settle a gambling debt. one man says the answer is yes. hal shaw says he kept the secret for 40 years until he appeared on espn's "outside the lines."
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shaw says he heard mob bosses planning to fix the match. >> the main thing that was surprising was they brought up bobby riggs. there was a proposal to set up two matches between the two best women players in the world. he mentioned margaret court, and it's easy for me to remember that because one of my aunt's name is margaret and the second lady was billie jean king. riggs had assured him that he would beat margaret court and then he would go in the tank and he'll make it look and appear that he's trying his best but billie jean king is just overwhelming him. >> well, shaw says he kept that secret until now because he was scared of retribution from the mob. for more on this amazing story, let's bring in a man who covered the match. tennis historian, bud collins. he's joining us from brook line, massachusetts. bud, you were there. i want to get right to it with
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you. do you think that riggs threw the match? >> no. no, i don't. i think -- i was there at courtside. i got a photographer's ticket so that i could be right up close and i could see billie jean with a new look of fire in her eyes and bobby wasn't in shape. that was the whole center to the match. bobby just had thought so much of his king of the world sultancy. that's what he thought he was because everybody was slobbering all over him giving him commercials, all sorts of things like that, and he was a great competitor, but he forgot to get in shape. and i was very close to it and he was perspiring and limping and he was a good sport about it, but there was no point for him to throw the match despite
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the story because that would have been the end of it. he loved being the sultan. he was next to play chrissy evert. he had played margaret court and won that one easily. his tactic was to play the ball in the sun, but there was no sun at the astro dome. >> let me ask you about this, bud, because riggs -- let's just play devil's advocate here. riggs was known for his accuracy, especially with his serves, but he missed almost half of his serves in that first mass. you think that was because he hadn't trained, was out of shape? >> no, i think a little of everything. i think he was nervous for the first time in his life. >> yes. >> usually he was great for this sort of thing, gambling, and i wouldn't say that he didn't gamble on matches because he did, but he didn't gamble on that one. nobody really knows how much money they both got. they split the purse, i believe, but it was fight, fight, fight
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for the women. that was the motto of billie jean king. she came onto the court and she was very angry at me because i had picked riggs and so she came on and i was rooting for her inside but she -- >> but you thought that probably she wasn't going to triumph, and to that end obviously a very competitive spirit. bud, she told espn that she knows when players throw matches and she said riggs wasn't throwing this one. >> oh, sure. >> but it was also -- was it also known that he had a lot of mob friends? >> a lot of what? >> friends in the mafia. >> well, i suppose everyone has if you're in sports. >> i don't. >> i don't think that had anything to do with it. billie jean came on there as a woman possessed. she was the joan of arc in short
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pants, and she was settling all the arguments across the world really where men were going against women and thinking that billie jean would crumple. she didn't. she didn't. it was no fun because it was over so quickly. he just couldn't get the ball in play and she moved him all over the court and she was ready for him and they had gone through the battle of the sexes so called with commercials for both. >> yeah. >> but after the match they made up -- billie jean was -- they gave bobby a pig as a prize, the other women of the women's tennis association, and billie jean said, well, we've got pigly wiggly here. she didn't want to do it. she didn't want to play him originally, but when margaret court lost to him, then she felt compelled to take over and just
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support the women of the world. >> and certainly it's so interesting to hear you -- it's so interesting to hear you describe that match. billie jean king, a woman possessed. bud collins, thank you so much for being with us. now unpredictable and moody, that is the description of bashar al assad from one of the few people who have gained access to the syrian president. we're going to take you inside the mind of a dictator next.
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just in to cnn. the defense has rested in the trial of nadal hasan. the defense is him. he's been representing himself. he has been convicted already, found guilty of premed dated murder for killing 13 people in the 2009 shooting rampage at fort hood, texas. also 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder.
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he rested and it was a matter of 20 seconds where he said the defense rests. there were questions about whether he might take the stand. ultimately he did not and he didn't do that in the first phase of the trial. we'll be looking at closing arguments starting tomorrow and then the jury will get the case and determine his fate because he is eligible for the death sentence. unpredictable, moody. that is how one man describes the president that the whole world is now talking go. syria's bashar al assad has long been an enigma. he's the son of one of history's most infamous dictators. he's been in power over 13 years. he's been a recluse. cnn's brian todd just sat down with one of the only americans to be given personal access to not just assad but his wife. brian, someone you could argue who knows assad best. how did he get this access and what did he tell you?
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>> reporter: well, brianna, this gentleman's name is andrew tabor. he's an analyst for the washington institute here. he got access because he worked for a charity that he and assad's wife, osma assad ran. in this situation they say bashar al assad has badly miscalculated. he got advice from people who told him that president obama would not enforce his red line against chemical weapons use and a huge part of this mi miscalculation is driven by assad. he's partly delusional. they believe they're not doing anything wrong, that it's outside forces, namely the u.s. and israel setting them up. i spoke with andrew tabor. he's an analyst who's a handful of westerners who got access. here's what he had to say about bashar al assad's personality. >> bashar al assad, unlike his father, is quite erratic. he's quite moody.
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he goes from one side to the other, bouts of rationality and irrationality. that confounded all of our attempts to deal with bashar over the years. >> he couldn't say whether he thinks assad is bipolar or not. even those close to him find it difficult to read him. his calculations in the current crisis may be even tougher to predict. you have an erratic personality who's now under a great deal of stress. brianna? >> very interesting report. brian todd, thank you for that. you can see more of brian's report on "the situation room with wolf blitzer" at 6:00 p.m. eastern time. former house speaker newt gingrich is calling on the house for this. before bombing syria over the regime's latest crimes, we should stand back and ask, and then what? gingrich writes that iran is a far bigger threat to the united states' interests given its purported nuclear weapons programs. joining us now from new york to talk about this, cnn political
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commentator will cane here in washington, donna brazile, a cnn commentator. let me start with you, will. what do you make of what gingrich is saying? is there any way for considering that the u.s. has said this is a red line for there not to be a response here? >> that's the problem, brianna. we have created a situation where we're damned if we do, damned if we don't. the obama administration put itself in this position. any kind of military action in syria makes absolutely no sense. what do we do? we lob a few missiles over there to create a symbol to say you must not do what we tell you to do. take out chemical weapons storage. you don't launch a war on chemical weapons, you launch a war on regimes, people. that means a greater escalation. this helps no one. it's reflective in the obama administration's lack of action for two years, but the fact that 650% of the american people do
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not want to see action in syria. however, because the obama administration created this red line, because they created this false scenario that if you launch this, we must act, our credibility is at stake. nations like north korea is watching. obama through running his mouth has created a situation now where we must go to war. >> donna, what do you think? >> well, mr. assad, if these allegations are true in what secretary kerry pointed out yesterday and giving us a little bit of an update that we'll get from the intelligence community, we cannot allow mr. assad to violate against his own home people. i think it's extremely important that we -- >> giets, just a moment. i'm going to revisit with you in just a moment but we have vice president joe biden who is speaking in houston before the american legion convention. let's listen in.
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>> everyone acknowledges their use. no one doubts that innocent men, women and children have been the victims of chemical weapons attacks in syria. and there is no doubt who is responsible for this heinous use of chemical weapons in syria. the syrian regime. for we know that the syrian regime are the only ones who have the weapons, have used chemical weapons multiple times in the past, have the means of delivering those weapons, have been determined to wipe out exactly the places that were attacked by chemical weapons and
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instead of allowing u.n. inspectors immediate access, the government has repeatedly shelled the sites of the attack and blocked the investigation for five days. at president obama's direction, all of us and his national security team have been in close touch with our foreign counterparts. the president believes, and i believe, that those who use chemical weapons against defenseless men, women and children should and must be held accountable. no one, no one knows better the depths of this country's commitment to universal principles than the american legion, the very people we've asked in the past to defend those principles. what a remarkable group of women
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and men you are. what a remarkable group of americans in this room today. as i look out, i see the faces of veterans of wars going back to world war i, korea. >> we're going to dip out of this now. this is vice president joe biden speaking. it was a planned speech that he was to give there in houston before the american legion. he's the keynote speaker. let's bring in donna brazile and will cane. now you've had chuck hagel, john kerry has talked about this and now we see vice president joe biden. the highest level of president obama's here laying the groundwork for a justification for a use of force in syria. i mean, that's how i read it, donna. >> well, look, they also must exhaust every other legal means to go to the u.n., nato, the arab league. there are clearly steps being
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taken now to consult with our allies and to ensure that our response is appropriate. but i simply cannot believe that we're going to have a partisan petty fight over what the response should be. what the president is doing is consulting with members of congress. he's consulting with our allies, and we cannot simply allow the syrian regime to use these chemical weapons, and who knows, to let them out to others who clearly hate america that might use them against us at some point. so i think the administration is doing the right thing and proceeding cautiously. >> will, i want to ask you about this. you brought up the poll numbers that show americans, they're very war weary. they don't want to see the u.s. engaged in this front. it's more than 50% who say they don't want this. let me ask you this. there's a difference between a military engagement where u.s. troops lives are in jeopardy and something like lobbing tomorrow
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mohawk missiles from the mediterranean sea where you're talking about at a great distance. do you think that if americans were asked in a different way, now that they've seen these pictures which are just heart wrenching, don't you think that that changes those poll numbers? >> i think somewhat we're playing a semantic game of the definition of war, whether that's american pilots flying over syrian air space or cruz missiles is besides the point. the question is should the united states go to war. the images of that war, the nature of that war are the secondary question. the question is should we go to war. over what? over the use of chemical weapons? it's abhorrent. the use of chemical weapons is abhorrent, but you know what else is, killing people with bullets and bombs. that's what president bashar al assad has been doing for two years. i can't accept the premise that somehow that's moshl and that's tolerable and chemical weapons, that's over the line, that's immoral and that is a predicate to action.
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that requires us to do something. the only reason this requires action is because the president said it with his own words. the irresponsibility of his own words. he's committed us to it because now iran and north korea will respond. by the way, to donna's point about it being partisan, disagreement is the most important thing when it comes to war. i think the democratic party made -- >> donna, i want to give you -- >> there are many democrats who oppose war. >> donna, i want to give you the final word on this though, on what he says about president obama painting himself into a box here. >> no, the president is going to use every diplomatic tool in the tool kit and the president is going to reach out and make sure as john kerry said the other day, that our allies in turkey, saudi arabia, israel, and others are with us in terms of our response. but this is a very important region of the country. we shed a lot of blood in the middle east but we have a lot of
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interest in na part of the world and the united states cannot simply turn a blind eye to what's going on in syria. there's a humanitarian crisis. we cannot simply run and hide when we're not ready for what the consequences may be. iran, that situation, we could spend more time, will, talking about the consequences of inaction. i think we all know what that is. >> donna and will, we will spend more time talking about this in the days going forward. it's goings to be a very busy week on this topic for sure. thanks to both of you for being with us. coming up, decades ago a follow lower of charles manson tried to kill president gerald ford. now brand-new never before seen video of ford talking about what he saw during the assassination attempt. >> i saw a hand come through the crowd in the first row. she loves a lot of the same things you do.
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questions on video about the day a woman named linette squeaky from pointed a loaded pistol at him outside the state capitol. the weapon didn't fire and she was arrested. the video of ford's testimony has just been released. check it out. >> as i indicated a moment ago, i noticed this lady, brightly colored dress, who wanted to apparently move closer toward me and i assumed to shake hands and so i hesitated. instead of keeping -- moving as i normally do and as i stopped, i saw a hand come through a crowd in the first row and that was the only active gesture that
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i saw. in the hand was a weapon. >> john berman, tell us where this video came from and why are we only seeing it now. >> this is a fascinating piece of american history, brianna. this tape -- this video taken of president ford has been in a vault sealed in a federal court house in sacramento since 1975. the tape was made here in washington about two months after the assassination attempt. it was a deposition for the assassination attempt trial of squeaky from. president gerald ford gave this testimony for that trial and at the time there were many people in the government who did not think it was a good idea for a president to testify. he was the first sitting president ever to give such testimony in a case but president ford felt it was important. he felt it was important to send the message no one was above the law. >> fascinating stuff. i remember looking into this, and it was a secret service agent i think who managed to
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stop the hammer from coming down. that's how close of a call it was. fascinating. john berman, thank you very much. he's going to be anchoring "the lead" so tune in. by now everyone has an opinion, i have one, too, on sunday's miley cyrus, what do we call it? we'll call it an exhibition. one thing is for sure, it was a social media phenomenon. it generated 306,000 tweets per minute. what does her dad, singer billy ray cyrus think about it. our piers morgan will ask him tonight on cnn. it was a normal family photo of a marine but it's gone viral all because of what his wife was doing for him. we'll be showing you the picture next. [ male announcer ] don't miss red lobster's endless shrimp.
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>> it's cool because i think we represent a what a lot of people are going through and a lot of couples going through the same thing. so it's an honor to be able to represent that. >> the photographer says that her facebook page has been overwhelmed from messages from people looking at the pictures. >> now we have a unique custody fight. the father didn't know she was born and just found out the foster couple is adopting her. does he have a case? we'll be back.
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now to an unusual custody case out of kentucky. a father is fighting for his baby girl. she's not with the woman who gave birth to her but with the parents who adopted her. the father didn't have a change of heart. he never even consented to adoption, telling our affiliate that his ex-girl friend told him he had an abortion. he found out about his daughter
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through a friend so he petitioned the family court but despite his blood ties, a jefferson county judge has denied trevino not only custody but visitation. >> this is something i helped create and i want to step up and help take care of her. >> we want to bring our lawyers back, lisa bloom and joey jackson. joey, is this dad going to eventually win custody? >> it's kind of dicey. we might say are you kidding me, this is outrageous, there was misrepresentation. apparently under kentucky law you have a 60-day period in which to assert your rights as a father. the argue is going to be she misled him, she said she wasn't pregnant but the reason for the 60 days is you do have a reason
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to know and you can affirmatively act upon your rights. while he does have a case, it may not be as simple of a case as we may imagine. >> the reason is to as well protect adoptive parents as well. cnn want able to identify the mom, she declined an on-camera interview. court documents show she thought another boyfriend was father when she put the baby up for adoption. do you think the blood relation would get a priority and maybe at least to maybe get visitation? >> he has a constitutional right to raise his own child. i think this is outrageous law that a father who has been lied to on has 60 days to find out, otherwise he has not right for
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18 years? at a time when there are so many deadbeat dads and a lot of people, including me, are railing against fathers who are not present in their children's lives, here's a father fight ing to be present in his own baby's life, you would think the law would stand behind him. >> that's a good point, lisa. >> that is a good point. >> next find out what caused one former governor to get emotional in a courtroom. >> these kids only get one shot. they only get one shot. [ beeping ] ♪ [ male announcer ] we don't just certify our pre-owned vehicles. we inspect, analyze and recondition each one, until it's nothing short of a genuine certified pre-owned... mercedes-benz for the next new owner. ♪ hurry in to your authorized mercedes-benz dealer
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i have a lifetime of experience. so i know how important that is. i want to take you quick to pennsylvania where the parents of sara murnaghan, the 11-year-old whose lung transplant case changed the rules for lung transplant. >> it's all just muscle buildup. she's off of oxygen so now it's building up her muscles. >> her breathing muscles? >> her breathing muscles, basically all of her muscles. she's having trouble walking. she walks with a walker, with assistance. it's not effortless. it's huge and hard. we walk from the couch to the bathroom with a walker and that's a huge challenge and huge ordeal. >> reporter: what's the first thing she wanted to do?
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>> she just wanted to be with her brothers and sister. it's been hard being separated as a family for six months. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> i mean, awesome obviously. we didn't obviously do it alone. we did it with all of you and with our wonderful friends who, you know, stood up with us and, you know, really made this all happen. you know, and really fought for sarye sarah. everybody did this for sarah and our friends. >> reporter: please take us back to when you had very little hope to the day when she came back from the hospital. can you tell us about the journey? >> it's a long journey. >> yeah, june was really hard. june was an awful place to be.
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obviously we didn't know if she would live. around the 8th of june she was intubated and sedated -- >> sarah murnaghan now home from the hospital. best of luck to her of course. that's it for me "the lead" starts now. john berman, take it away. >> if you were hoping your life would not be affected by the syrian war, it is already too late for that. i'm john berman and this is "the lead." your retirement account taking a hit from the story on syria. the national lead, an outbreak of measles among followers of a texas mega church. did their religious beliefs help the virus spread? and the buried
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