do? all the rest of the world support him?

tonight i'll and now cnn's inside man, we're back and going behind closed doors with the biggest ban since the beatles. and i'mly cyrus and her twerking. we have fred plankton with the reporter in damascus and he's on the phone. fred, what's the late on the ground in damascus? is there a sense that a medical tear attack from the united states and the other u.n. countries could becoming in at any moment? >> reporter: certainly is. there certainly is one that the military attack could be coming

very soon, pierce. i've been in touch with the syrian officials and the country's information minister, what a powerful here and the syrian officials talking to you has just changed. two days ago i talked to them and they were very bold and warning the united states that they would strike back. they're still saying similar things but the tone has changed. now you're hearing things from weapons' inspectors. they keep talking about the u.s. not having international mandate about the u.s. having to explain all of this to america and people around the world. you can just sense that there's a new nervousness here. it seems as though they're opening up and realizing the fact that it's not really a question of this any more it's a question of when. that's causing the talk at least among some the ones i've been talking, if mood has changed considerably here on the ground,

pierce. >> cnn has obtained this exclusive video from a direct hit from an alleged chemical weapons attack. i'll warn some of the viewers it's graphic and disturbing. tell us the latest mood, i guess that we'll pant to sense is what is president assad's reaction going to be likely to any strike that comes? >> that's a good question. probably doubtful that there will be any reaction at all but a lot will depend on what sort of military action is taken. if it's limited i doubt there would be any reaction at all. i was here in the city when the israeli struck a big weapons depot of the syrian military and a whole mountain was set on fire for several days and there was a lot of rhetoric but never really any sort of response, any military response. the syrian government knows well that the air force is no match for the us air force. they know well they don't have much in the way of air defense. a lot of a it is from the 1908s

and it's difficult to stop the american planes. if the attack is limited, then i doubt there would be any sort of answer from the syrian government, pierce. >> and finally, fred, is there massive debate on the ground in damascus about what it was the forces that unleashed the chemical weapons attack or is it generally accepted that it was, indeed, from him and there's incontrovertible evidence to that affect. >> that debate has changed in the past couple of days as well and some of the video is one of the reasons. people here are seeing that there might be something more behind it than they thought. we're in the government-controlled part of damascus and people here are generally sympathetic to the government. most of the people on the ground, be the military or civilians were saying they simply could not imagine that the government would ever do such a thing as use chemical

weapons. but as more and more of these videos surface people are starting to question things and wondering what exactly happened? and people are coming to -- >> we've lost fred right at the end of his report there. we'll try to get him back a bit later. he's for cnn in damascus one of the few western reporters there. what will president obama do about syria and will the of the world back him. and fran townsend and a member of the dhs and cia advisory boards and nick christoff. general, what do you believe is the most likely military action 'president obama will take and how effective in your experience do you think it will be? >> my political judgment is that the administration will not do a lot. it's making a very narrow case

that what we have here is not a large issue inside of syria but a small, specific issue of chemical weapons use which needs to be addressed. and i'm concerned that what this president will do is a small limit add tack to, number one, punish bashar al assad and to demonstrate that chemical use will not go unanswered. however, i think it will be limited as a result and everybody in the region will take away a view that america is weaker because of this. >> adam schiff, if that is correct and it seems to be the perceived wisdom about what may be coming if it's not going to be thaesktive and it's not going to dismantle the assad regime, which is something most team have been calling for quite some time, what's the point of it other than making some kind of political statement? >> i think it will be effective if the object is to deter others

around the world from feeling that this is now the new norm. that chemical weapons are another tool in the military toolbox. i think it can be very effective in accomplishing that objective. the president doesn't want to own this war. and neither do the american people want to own this war. we have to be very careful not to commit to things that we aren't ready to engage in the sense of getting fully involved in a civil war in, yet, another car by narrowly defining the mission i think we can achieve the objective and deter the regime from once again, resorting to this brutal and terrible weapon but it has to be a very narrowly defined mission. so we don't get entangled in this civil war. >> and nick, one of the problems the administration faces is the sort of fallout that continues from iraq where the american people and the british people, for that matter, were assured that saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction. it turned out they never existed. once again, the people of america and britain and other

countries are being told by their leaders this man assad, has used chemical weapons but they can't produce incontrovertible public evidence to that effect it won't have much support for the public. how dang vows that for president obama and indeed, other world leaders. >> i think the main reason president obama is not more decisive is that the public has. ti appetite for some broader help jury. he has resisted for that reason. and i think as you say, that the problem is that we overreabouted in afghanistan. we overreacted in iraq. and that has led to a paralysis in the case of syria. but at the end of the day, our approach in syria, simply, has not worked. the things we tried to prevent like the spread of the war to surrounding countries, like the growing civilian slaughter, the steady escalation of the

conflicts and the radicalization of the rebels, they have happened anyway. >> fran, let's talk about president assad for a moment. everyone has been talking very loudly about the need for him to go for well over a year now. now we're at the critical point of military action and that rhetoric has been reigned back. now not a regime change it's a retaliatory strike perhaps, concentrated on the chem weapons' aspect of what he's done. this can is all the a bit of a mess in terms of how you settle this to an already-skeptical public. is he bad and if he is, why are we are not trying to sierk to change his regime? >> that's right, pierce. i training inially don't understand why the administration would signal that we're not looking to change the balance of power. we're only seeking to address the issue of chemical weapons. these limited targeted strikes, the cruise missile strikes in and of themselves we quantity

expect to be deterrent. that did not deter bin laden or the taliban and we saw them launch the 9/11 strikes from afghanistan where those missiles had been. so missiles in reason of themselves, once out, is not an effective strategy. there have to be strategic objectives that this aids but this alone will not be effective. i don't understand why you would signal that before you even start it. >> absolutely. >> may i respond to that quickly? >> yes, you can, go ahead. >> i think there's there's a reason why the president and the administration is being very specific about this. we don't want to give the syrian people the impression that we're the kaf calvary riding in and they should rise up against assad and risk what we saw happen in iraq several years ago when the iraqis had the

impression were going to risk it. we don't want to risk even further slaughter of the people so the president needs to be clear not only with the american people about the limited scope of this potential military action but clear it with the syrian people so they don't expect too much so we don't get ourselves drawn in and essentially own this conflict. >> but general, again, from a military perspective, the rebels will clearly see any intervention by the americans, british, french and others as a plus for them because it's a strike against the assad regime. so effectively welcome the international community will be taking sides, won't it? no other way of describes what will happen? >> look, the international community has already taken sides. as soon as we said assad must go, everybody had taken sides. but a limited strike as described by congressman schiff will only result in an emboldened iran who is convinced they're winning inside of syria

because this is the best and worse that america is willing to do. it will embolden assad to stay in power and convince our allies in the region we're an unreliable ally and america is not serious about standing up to its commitments and its responsibility into the region. >> i'm not so sure about that. can i pipe in? >> yes, you can. >> i think realistically, these very little chance politically of a sustained kosovo type of operation. i don't see that as a realistic possibility. will a short operation of a day or two or three make a difference? you know, i think the general is right there are real risks. but on the other hand, president assad has truly has kind of tested the international community. if you watch what he's done over the last couple of years he started off by arresting protesters and then he opened fire on protests. and then he began sending rockets and mortars and finally bombing rebel areas and finally bombing civilian areas and now

the graerch wal use and introduction of chemical weapons. it seems to me this is somebody what's a rational actor and he wants to protect his toys and i think there's a possibility that he can be deterred. i'm not sure of it but i think the present policy has failed. >> pierce with i think we have to acknowledge we don't know how assad will act to limited cruise missile strikes and what he may do and you can't take them out with a single strike, he maier decide he's going to eyes them or lose them. he may use what's left of the chemical weapons against the population. so there are real risks, both to the deterrent strategy to not having strategic objectives. this is not without peril. >> i'll leave it there, thank you very much general and congressman -- democratic congressman, adam schiff and

fran. we'll talk again regularly about this over the next few weeks. an update on a story i brought you last night. a sad update. the arizona teenager on sellsed with the 2007 movie "into the wild" and he vanished about a week ago and sadly his body was found near his dmar the rural area of the state last night and police are investigating hills death as a suicide. his father told cnn jonathan made everyone feel like he was okay but he was hurting inside and our deepest condolences go stwards the family. coming up, unanswered questions about the did napping of hannah anderson. and i'll talk to them for the first title live since her brother's death. that's coming naex.

when me and my mom weren't getting along very well, me and him would talk about how to deal with it, and i would tell him how i felt about it, and he would help me through with it. they weren't anything bad. >> hanna anderson talking about james dimaggio in the wake of

hanna's kidnapping and the murders of her mother and brother. investigators are struggling to piece together? those answers may have died with dimaggio but the person closest to dimaggio speaks out, his sister laura joining me. obviously, a very difficult time for you and your family and everyone connected with this. have you got any answers to the questions, i'm sure you've been asking yourself about what your brother is alleged to have done? >> what specifically answer? specific questions would you be referring to? >> do you know why he did it? >> how do you know that he did it would be my question for you. there is no evidence. the only evidence that has come forward at this point is the fact that these two bodies were found on his property. i think there is a lot of holes in the case. there is a lot of missing information.

i have yet to see any solid evidence. >> what do you think happened? >> in my heart of hearts, i think that hanna perhaps got herself into a situation that she couldn't get herself out of, and i do believe that my brother gave his life to protect her. >> do you really believe that, laura? >> i do. >> i mean, all the evidence points to him having left a booby trapped property that set fire and killed hanna's mother and her little brother. he then took hanna, we know undisputedly on this long road trip, anywhere longer than he had been before. why would he do this if he was a completely innocent man? >> let's start with the first thing that you went over, the booby trapping of the house. i have known my brother for years. he had trouble setting his water thermostat on his hot tub.

my brother was one of the kindest people you've ever met in your life. he worked diligently to save animals. he was not only a father figure and an uncle to the anderson children, he was to many other people, as well. the kind of the man that i know him to be, it's -- it doesn't add up. it doesn't make sense and for me, i need facts and i need evidence, real facts. >> obviously, the police are making it pretty clear that they believe he did set fire to the house. >> right. >> that he did commit a double-murder. >> uh-huh. >> and that he kidnapped hanna and took her away and he was in a shootout then with police, which that part of it certainly is indisputable, he was. >> uh-huh. >> many people watch this -- >> is it indisputable, is it really? >> that he was in a shootout with police?

you don't believe that, either? >> i know one thing for sure. i was in touch with the fbi and u.s. marshals and san diego pd that entire week. they know that my brother and i were best friends, and we were all that, you know, we had left in our immediate family. they know that -- they could have flown me to idaho in a moment's notice. i could have been there in three hours and i could have talked to him, give me a mega phone and i would have talked to him straight out of there and he could have come home and had a trial as he deserves as anyone this in this country deserves -- >> what was he doing there? >> in idaho? >> yeah, why was he with this young just turned 16 girl? i mean, that's not a man of his age should be doing? >> fair enough. >> have you said that to yourself? >> i know that he thought of hanna as a daughter. i know that the wilderness up there, it is some of the most beautiful terrain that you'll ever see in the world, and

that's one of the things that my brother and i enjoyed doing together, doing separately. you've heard andrew talk about they went to yosemite. that's what we enjoyed doing. >> you were very close to james? >> yes. >> how close? >> he was my best friend. he was my brother. he was my father. he was everything to me. he was the person that i called if i had a question about life, love, career, anything. he was my first person that i called. he was my best friend. >> is part of your reaction to this, do you think, a sense of denial? i got to put that to you that you just don't want to believe that your brother could be capable of such a monstrous act as the police believe? >> we're coming back to still

seeing no evidence, no -- the sheriffs -- the san diego sheriffs have basically said that the case is closed. >> the police report said he tortured christina and ethan, hanna's mother and brother and set fire to the house and burned them and kidnapped hanna and took her away. these are things the police have made clear from their point of view happened. >> well, where is the evidence? >> if it wasn't him, who was it? >> i don't know. that's what i want to find out. >> he's the guy who took hanna to the middle of nowhere. what other explanation do you have? >> do you believe everything a 16-year-old tells you? >> we think she's just lying? >> i'm not going to speak to that. >> you know hanna anderson, you know the family well. >> i do. >> do you believe there is a reason why she wouldn't be telling the truth?

do you think -- >> i know the hanna anderson that i saw a few nights ago on the tv is certainly not the girl that stayed in my home three weeks prior to them disappearing. >> what do you mean? do -- what do you mean? >> i remember very vividly telling my brother, she's trouble. she's going -- i said, you need to watch out for that one, she's trouble. she was -- you know, came into my home, was very gracious. didn't say thank you once. she had on extremely heavy eye makeup, just wasn't -- wasn't the -- just didn't strike me as a -- i don't know. i don't want to bash anyone. it certainly not my intent. >> so if you believe she was troubled, then it may well be that your brother became infatuated with her --

>> i know she -- i know that, you know, jim did express at that time that he was -- she stated that she was very upset with her mother. she blamed her mother for her father moving to tennessee. it was, you know, didn't -- didn't appear to me -- it did concern me at the time. >> i mean, look, there will be people watching this saying come on, laura, you've got to face facts. >> uh-huh. >> we understand that you're his only surviving sibling. we'll get in after the break after very troubled upbringing you had and close relationship. >> right. >> but in the end if it's the police saying all this stuff, and they are absolutely convinced that there is no doubt that your brother was a double-murderer and torturer and kidnapper, it may be that you have to face the reality that he just flipped, that he became obsessed with hanna. >> right. >> that he planned this road trip with her. >> right. >> that he cracked up, that he

set fire to this house and that he disposed of the two people, whatever it may be, that he just became somebody that you wouldn't recognize as your brother. >> well, i think we're getting ahead of ourselves. when they can show me evidence, than i will deal with it at that time. >> let's take a short break. we'll come back and have more of this because i wasn't expecting you to say some of this stuff, and i want to go over it in more detail with you. >> okay. g. and now there are endless ways to love it... from crispy to spicy to savory. [ man ] you cannot make a bad choice. [ male announcer ] red lobster's endless shrimp! as much as you like, any way you like! you can have your shrimp. and you can eat it, too. [ male announcer ] try our new soy wasabi grilled shrimp or classic garlic shrimp scampi. all just $15.99 for a limited time. it's gonna be a hit this year. [ male announcer ] red lobster's endless shrimp is now! we would never miss endless shrimp. [ male announcer ] but it won't last forever. so come and sea food differently.

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back with me now is lora dimaggio, the sister of james dimaggio, the kidnapper of hanna anderson.

this is her first interview since her brother's death. >> piers, can i stop you? >> yeah. >> i would like to throw in there just -- i would like tory mind you that at this point my brother is still a suspect. he is not a killer. he is accused, and again, it is alleged. so i would just like to -- >> i mean, i understand that and this is on behalf of everyone watching saying look, the police have been very firm in their reports from this and public statements that they have little doubt that your brother was a double-murderer, torturer and kidnapper. so i understand why you as his sister defend him but i have to put again, it sounds to me like you're slightly in denial. >> uh-huh. i understand where you're coming from on that, i certainly do.

how, you know, san diego police have not -- they refuse to return any of my calls. fbi refuses to return any of my calls. no one will speak to me. no one will give me any information. no one will release any of his property to me. i've largely been left out of the loop and completely ignored throughout this whole process. and if there is evidence, i think that as, you know, the last remaining, you know, immediate family member of james, that i am -- i think they could share a little bit of that with me. >> tell me about the upbringing you had with james, because it was very tormented with your mother and father. we've heard lots of rumor about it. >> the reality is that we stuck together a lot. we did have trying times. we also had a lot of happy times.

we made our own life, and he took care of me a lot. >> your father went to prison and it was over a strange incident involving an ex-girlfriend. >> correct. >> the way he ended up at the ex-girlfriend's house and effectively seemed to kidnap her daughter. >> correct. >> and for that he went to prison. he later committed suicide and james lost his life on the anniversary of your father taking his life. do you think that was linked in someway? >> no, i think that in many ways they are very different situations. my father was on drugs and my father was a drug addict for years. my entire life that i knew him, he was on drugs. as soon as -- after he left the military, and we're not just talking about, you know, marijuana or something like that. he was, you know, on some very heavy drugs. my brother was not a meth

addict, so i think you're talking about two totally different situations, although i did understand and can see the similarities. >> you had -- >> situation. >> you had a pact with your brother after your parents died that you would never leave the other one alone. >> right. >> tell me about that. >> no smoking and take care of yourself, watch out for yourself, don't do anything stupid. we agreed that we would stick around for each other for a really, really, really long time, as long as we possibly could until we were old and gray and that we would never leave each other alone. we had already lost so much. >> you must feel very alone now. >> i miss him very much.

very much. he was the center of my world. >> did he ever, lora, give any sense to you of being very damaged by what had happened in his upbringing that could possibly explain what happened? and i don't want to prejudge, you're right the police investigation will have to conclude and everything else, all the evidence at the moment points towards him being guilty of heinous crimes, ones that you just can't believe your brother is capable of, but was there anything in his behavioral pattern over the years where you thought potentially one day he could crack up? >> you know, the only thing that i could say to that is that jim was very quiet. he never spoke about our childhood, whereas i was opposite. on every anniversary or birthday, jim, mom would have been whatever age today what not and he would say lora, you know,

stop living in the past, stop living in the past. he was very quiet about everything, never spoke about it on his birthday he would pretty much turn off his cell phone and kind of, you know, go work on the property or something like that. he was always just very quiet. i don't know that he ever grieved of dealt with anything we went through as children or in his teenage years. you know -- >> could it all have just been building up, building up? i mean is it a possibility? >> anything is a possibility -- >> did -- >> absolutely. anything is a possibility. >> that he may have just completely flipped. >> it's certainly a possibility, but it's very hard to believe that someone who was just so genuine and so dependable every single solitary day just woke up one day and decided, you know,

i'm going to do this. it's very difficult to believe. you know, i also want to say that i'm not in any way excusing, you know, i'm not saying that he didn't have any part in it, but what i would like to know is i would like to have factual evidence of what exactly his part in it was, and, you know, when i have that evidence, i'll go from there. >> you were pretty critical of hanna anderson, a lot of people on twitter and if you want to give me a view of this tweet me at piers morgan but a lot of people acting angrily to that saying you can't attack a young kid, a 16-year-old girl that's been kidnapped by your brother who is a man nearly three times her age, regardless of anything else, you can't go after a young kid like that. what is your reaction? >> they have a right to their own opinion, and i have a right to mine. >> you -- it's sad that you were

trying to get dna evidence to explore a theory that james had had a relationship with hanna's mother and that he may even be the father of hanna or indeed ethan or both. is that true, and if so, why did you do that? >> to this day i have not asked the andersons, you can ask the anderson family, i have not asked the andersons for any dna. >> do you intend to? >> we'll see when the time comes. >> james left all his money not to you, as he originally planned to but to the maternal grandmother of hanna. >> correct. >> was that a surprise to you? >> no, it was not. >> his argument, apparently is that he believed she was best place to take care of the kids should something happen to their parents. >> i mean, correct. you know, i remember speaking to him about it. it was never -- my children don't need it. i don't need it.

and i want nothing more than -- you know, i have so much respect and love and deep, deep, deep respect in my heart for my brother that i want nothing more than for his wishes to be honored. i've heard people say that, you know, i'm upset about that, that he left them $100,000. it's really -- >> you spoke -- >> could not be further from the truth. >> you've spoken to brett -- >> i called and let him know. absolutely. >> how that was conversation? >> it was very nice. i've been -- you know, brett was my brother's best friend. in a sense, they were like brothers. my brother, you know, took on his family as his own and bernice was, you know, very much so a maternal role -- you know, role model in his life, and she helped him out -- >> did brett believe that james had done all this? did he tell you that? >> i think he was a little

surprised, but, you know, i had just called him because i wanted to let him know that this was in place for him, not to worry. you know, he certainly has enough to worry about, and my deepest, deepest, you know, condolences. my heart just breaks for brett, really, it does. >> well, it's an awful situation for everybody involved. >> it is. >> i appreciate you coming on, lora. i know it's difficult for you and you didn't want to do this. you're perfectly entitled to have your opinion. it was your brother. i hope you find peace from this. >> thank you. >> we got a statement from the family, from the anderson family. no one in the anderson family or associated with the anderson family has received a request for dna from andrew or lora and they did not meet mr. dimaggio until the sixth month of tina's pregnancy with hanna and brett anderson's dna was used to identify the body of his dead son ethan anderson. this is a difficult time for both families and we wish her

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♪ ♪ talking about these blurred lines ♪ >> to twerk or not to twerk. morgan spurlock, how are you? >> good, how are you man? >> you're the expert because you made the movie the entire teenage force is going to watch, so what is your reaction to the great twerking controversy of miley cyrus. >> i think the fact you and i are having a conservation about it, has proven that she's accomplished everything she set out to do. people like to think it's terrible, it's awful. where are the parents in this? we're talking about it. it absolutely unbelievable. >> this whole thing of twerking being a new form of dance, i've been going to the caribbean for

25 years and if you go to any nightclub in trinidad, barbados, jamaica, they have been doing it for 20 years. it's called bump and grind. so i've been twerking since i was 15. >> i believe it. i've seen you. it's impressive. we need a little booty shaking now and then. there is nothing wrong with it. >> lady gaga doing it, nobody would care. it because it's miley and we want her to be little montana, little 10-year-old. get real, she's a 20-year-old young woman and doing exactly the same as beyonce or lady gaga or any of them. >> i imagine billy ray cyrus has a printing machine going yeah, look at that honey, here it comes, more money. it like this is -- >> he was supposed to be -- billy ray was supposed to be on the show to explain his daughter's behavior. >> yeah, billy, you have explaining to do. >> i'm not sure he's worked out his explanation.

we decided to postpone it. we'll get the first interview. i know he's watching. billy ray, we're ready. you emersed yourself with one direction. they are a great bunch of guys. >> they are. >> i had the pleasure of meeting them and you did this documentary on them. what did it tell you about the world of pop, and of marketing and promotion and the kind of stunt that miley pulled here? it's so important, isn't it, to the brands of these young pop stars? >> i think the biggest thing you've hit on is it's a machine. there is a tremendous amount of work that goes into being a pop store and a lot of that is visibility, that everything that these guys do in one direction, every time they say something, do something, it becomes front page news as is happening with miley cyrus and that's what keeps this machine going. these guys, luckily, have not had the kind of strip down to their underwear yet.

i think miley is in a different shift because she's having people look at her in a different way. she wants to be beyond being this innocent little teenager and now she wants to be an adult pop star and wants to compete like rihonna or lady gaga and the fact we're talking about it, proves she's accomplishing that. >> there is so much hot air spoken about it. i was not remotely offended. i just thought what is all the fuss about? really. it was a little bit of a naughty dance. why shouldn't she? she's not 15, she's 20. >> people like to think the wardrobe malfunction was a mistake, robin thicke, the pr people. the foam finger is probably like i didn't plan on any of this. >> the most upset person will be lady gaga because she had a similar outfit -- >> lady gaga is like you stole

my gig, what are you doing miley cyrus? get off the stage. >> [ laughter ] let's have a little break. we'll come back and talk about your one direction movie, which is terrific and your view on the bigger international story, bigger than one direction, syria because you traveled around that region and i'm sure you got a pretty good perspective of it, after the break. >> absolutely. of people that do ride the bus. and now that the buses are running on natural gas, they don't throw out as much pollution into the air. so i feel good. i feel like i'm doing my part to help out the environment.

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breaking news tonight out of fairfield, california, where firefighters are battling a raging fire that's destroyed several buildings. and the rim fire continues to scorch yosemite park. officials say it's the seventh largest fire in california history. gary tuchman is live for us in groveland, california, with the latest on the rim fire. gary, bring me up to speed with how this fire is doing. >> reporter: since this fire started ten days ago, it's continued to grow. it's now the largest fire in california ever in recorded history. 287 square miles have been burned, the equivalent almost twice the size of las vegas, nevada. nobody has been killed, that's very important. it's an amazing fact, considering how big this fire

is. in addition, there have been no serious injuries. the latest numbers we have, 31 homes destroyed. we're standing outside of yosemite national park. 6% of the park has been singed by fire. it's not the part of the park where tourists go. they're hoping to keep the fire away from the park where the tourists go. piers? >> gary tuchman, thank you very much. i want to bring back cnn's inside man, morgan spurlock. i want to play a little clip from this movie. >> as soon as someone tries to tell us what to do. it's like having five rowdies in class at school. ♪ >> thank you. enough of you. come on, now. >> they look each more handsome on your tv show, i've got to tell you. >> they're taking america and

the world by storm. they're getting the kind of crowds we haven't seen since the beatles. i'm surprised as to why you made the movie. you like metallica, music like that. you've done gritty documentaries. now you're doing a pop movie, albeit a very good one. why did you do this? >> to have the chance to make like a documentary blockbuster. a film that would appeal to a major audience. who wouldn't want to make a film without a band who are at this core of their career. as we're about to go into a room with them and see them explode. that's the road and journey we went on. to capture that with cameras is a rare opportunity. >> it's a terrific movie. i haven't seen it yet, but everyone who i know who has seen it says it's brilliant. let's turn quickly to syria, because you've made movies about this region.

you've traveled around this region. what do you make of what's happening here? >> the biggest thing for me is you want to make sure all the information you're getting is accurate. that before we act we get real people on the ground who are verifying and justifying everything we're hearing. you've got to get u.n. security inspectors in there. it is such a pressure cooker. when you travel around the world, there's already judgments about the united states. the last thing you need to do is make a mistake and make the wrong decision. i said earlier to the panel, one of the problems, and you'll know this from having traveled that region, there's so much distrust after what happened in iraq, that when governments say this bad guy has bad weapons and it turns out he hasn't, then trust goes, doesn't it? >> and it goes immediately. all it takes is one little thing like this to ruin it. we just can't afford that right now.

>> morgan, i've only -- you've only been working at cnn for about a month, but you can come back any time. you're a man of all trades. >> whenever you need me, i can twerk whenever you like. >> i like the idea of two morgans going at it. good to talk to you. >> thanks, piers. >> we'll be right back.

good evening everyone. tonight with washington talking war, we'll talk about what military action against syria would actually mean to american interests, american lives and millions of syrians living and dying under a dictator. >> and part two of america's worst charity when it comes to how much money they raise for dying children, and how little they actually spend on them. we're keeping them honest. the people that say not vaccinating their children is a matter of faith, putting everyone at risk of childhood diseases that we sometimes forget can kill. dr. sanjay gupta weighs in. we begin with syria. the drums of war growing louder but tough questions what kind of military action it might be. defense secretary hagel says american forces are in his wor