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dimaggio and what she says about her brother, the man accused of kidnapping hannah anderson. see it all tomorrow night. that's all for us tonight. good evening, everyone. we begin with breaking news. action tonight by great britain slamming the brakes on any immediate military action on syria unless president obama wants to go at it alone, which the white house is signaling he might. parliament in england weighing a resolution that would have okayed the use of force. weighing it and finding it wasn't enough. here is the key moment as the measure failed loudly in the house of comments. >> mr. mcneal, you're like an exploded volcano erupted, calm yourself man.
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the ayes to the right, 272. the noes to the left, 285. so the noes have it. the noes have it. >> moments after the vote, prime minister david cameron assured members he would not exercise what is known as the royal prerogative to go to war without parliamentary approval. >> i strongly believe in the need for a tough response to the use of chemical weapons, but i also believe in respecting the will of this house of commons. it is very clear tonight while the house has not passed a motion, it is clear to me the british parliament reflecting the views of the british people does not want to see british military action. i get that, and the government will act accordingly. >> voted down the measure despite a report from britain's joint intelligence committee calling it quote highly likely the syrian government used chemical weapons last week. the u.s. intelligence committee is expected to release its own report sometime tomorrow. we got a hint tonight of what
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the administration knows. senior u.s. officials telling intelligence reveals senior members of the assad regime preparing for a massive chemical attack and discussing it afterwards. those intercepted conversations include regime members acknowledging the attack was getting a great deal of attention, discussing the wisdom of lying low for awhile and for going such massive chemical attacks in the near future. on the ground, u.n. inspectors kept up their work today and the u.n. secretary-general saying he expects them to leave syria by saturday morning. in new york, members of the u.n. security counsel gathered behind closed doors, the meeting called by russia which is expected to veto any resolution approving the use of force which leaves the white house in a lonely place. top administration officials talking to key lawmakers. a senior official saying unilateral action may be necessary. now just yesterday, the president made the case that curbing syria's use of chemical weapons is in america's national interest. >> what's happened is heartbreaking.
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when you start talking about chemical weapons in a country that has the largest stockpile of chemical weapons in the world, where over time their control over chemical weapons may erode, where they're allied to known terrorist organizations that in the past have targeted the united states, then there is a prospect, a possibility in which chemical weapons that can have devastating effects could be directed at us. and we want to make sure that that does not happen. >> to that, we said senior officials have been reaching out to lawmakers. a short time ago they wrapped up a conference call. more from dana bash. this conference between the white house and members of congress, what do you know about it? >> i just talked to a lawmaker on that call and it lasted for more than an hour, close to an hour and a half and the gist of the administration's message is what we've heard publicly, they believe that assad's regime did
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use chemical weapons, that was the main message. they insisted that no decision has been made with regard to military action. there is no timetable on what or when that would be, but i'm also told even though there were 20 to 25 people of both parties on this call with administration officials, the secretaries of state and defense and others, it wasn't antagonistic. i'm told it was a good discussion. they listened to everybody's opinions, the opinions i'm sure as you suspect were varied but nobody said don't do it. one of the questions i had, was what the effect in great britain would be on members of congress. the answer that obama officials gave is that the u.s. is going to do what it needs to do, and another country will not dictate what the u.s. does. so no one i'm told from the administration conceded that the u.s. would ultimately have to go without great britain, but they made very clear that it's not up to great britain what the u.s.
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decides needs to be done with regard to national security interests. the other thing i can tell you, though, is that this was a non-secure phone call. members of congress, senators were in their districts and states, some of them on cell phones, so they couldn't do this on a secure line. so i'm told there were some answers that they simply couldn't give because much of this is still classified. >> and congress isn't scheduled to come back for another two weeks. is there any chance they will come back and early vote on syria like the british counter parts did? >> very unlikely. first of all, look what happened in great britain, anderson. i was told before that happened that one of the reasons why even republicans who run the house don't want to call the house back is because they don't want to have that kind of result. for the most part, even though they are not happy, necessarily with the way the president is or isn't making his case publicly, they support the idea perhaps
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using surgical military strikes. they wouldn't want to put the u.s. in a position to have an authorization vote. even just a resolution that would have went down that would embarrass the president of the united states. i got an e-mail from senator bob corker who had a classified briefing earlier today. he said he now, seeing what he saw with regard to intelligence, feels that he would support surgical military strikes against syria. >> thanks for reporting. joining me now is fouad ajami, fran townsend, christopher dicky, and john king. fouad, the president said the national security is at stake, when you have a country with a stockpile of chemical weapons like this. but if this strike isn't actually designed to strike at those chemical sites, what does
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it do to protect national security? >> the president is doing it because he said he would. in this is a very reluctant leader. this is not a war leader. he's not eager to go to war. he put his fate in the hands of bashar assad. >> and not only that, he made this crisis. he made the world we're in right now, barack obama. he refused to back the syrian rebellion. he refused to arm the syrian rebellion. he overrode four of his top advisers in 2012 when they said let's arm the rebels. there were many, many options. all the good options were on the front end. he has very tight options now, and he will do this very unhappily, and in my opinion it will not be convincing. it's not that he will alter the logic of the situation on the ground with pinpricks.
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if you're not going to destroy the regime, there isn't much use for a show of force. >> christopher, what do you think? >> destroy the regime like we destroyed saddam hussein's regime, then get on the ground and occupy the country, spend $2.5 billion a week, kill 100,000 people? >> not realistic. >> i don't think that's a good idea and i don't think obama thinks it's a good idea and i don't think the american people think it's a good idea. >> what about this idea of this limited strike, this shot across the bow? >> on that point i agree completely. either do something that has an effect on the ground or don't have a limited strike. this idea of punitive, limited strikes, is something that's been used by the reagan administration, by george h.w. bush, by the clinton administration. they almost never work and they're almost always counterproductive.
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you wind up rattling the cage of what's already an angry animal, and you wind up with more terrorism and more action on the ground. the other point that fouad made that's very important is that bashar al assad probably feels he's in control of this situation. i don't think we can dismiss the possibility that he carried out these attacks because of the american warnings, knowing the response would be limited and by his terms the american image would be one of inadequacy. >> you look at that vote in england and the way everybody is looking at syria, it's impossible to escape the specter of iraq. everybody seems to be looking at this through the lens of iraq. or through the lens of whatever, i mean russia looks at it through chechnya. >> you're exactly right. the shadow of iraq hangs over this. but everybody has overused iraq.
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i'll give you one precedent which barack obama would opt for, and in a way it would see us to a proper conclusion, a good conclusion. look at kosovo in 1999. it was waged by a dove. bill clinton has never been viewed as a warrior. bill clinton and tony blair went at milosevic and we bombed serbia for 78 days. we destroyed the serbian war machine. we saved kosovo without american losses. there are many other models. everybody jumps at iraq as the only template. it's the only template, iraq looms large because it looms large in barack obama's mind. >> christopher, you don't buy it with kosovo? >> i was on the ground for most of those templates. i was in belgrade, and it was a very different kind of situation. can you imagine this administration or any administration now mustering support for 78 days of bombing, 38,000 bombing sorties? i don't think so.
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also, syria clearly is not serbia or kosovo. and all that was following on what happened in 1995. when you had the croatians roll against the serbian army with american backing. we don't have any equivalent of the croatian army. maybe if turkey wants to invade, we could support it. but i don't think that's likely. >> john king, what are you hearing about the impact of this vote in england? >> it's very discouraging coming from a senior u.s. official. oddly, the impact of this, anderson, could be, emphasis on could be, to accelerate the timetable. remember the conversations we've been having, the prime minister of england said he would try to help the president but he needed the united nations. part of the iraq legacy. he needed a vote. now that the brits are off the table, the prime minister said he can't participate. a second u.s. official said it's possible now, because the obama administration has no expectations for anything to
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happen productively in the united nations, it is possible the timetable could be accelerated and the one thing to watch for from the administration's concern is getting the u.n. weapons inspectors out and they're due to leave saturday. >> fran, so they leave saturday. do you think -- england earlier was talking about waiting for an actual u.n. report. do you see the u.s. waiting for that? do you see action as inevitable? >> i do see action as inevitable. i share the concern, as you know, about this sort of limited one-off strike, not having any real strategic effect. and we don't understand what the president's strategic objectives are. i think we have to act not just because his credibility is at stake, but because the threat of the use of chemical weapons. all these other countries, great britain, the arab league, condemned the use of chemical weapons but not done anything. this is a message being heard not only by assad in syria, but iran and other places around the world.
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there is strategic geopolitical importance about what weight do we put on the use of these chemical weapons against civilian populations. >> do you buy the national security argument? >> i can't make the connection. i was listening to the president just now, i listened to him yesterday. i don't see how you go from the kind of threat that he's talking about to the united states to a limited strike having any impact on that. if it's not targeting the weapons and probably it's wise not to. >> we've watched the slaughter of innocents for a long time. i get making that argument. the national security argument, do you buy it? >> i buy we cannot permit the use of chemical weapons what the president was saying on pbs i do agree with. this is about -- there are things that we should be roundly against and be clear about that. >> why chemical weapons? 100,000 people have been slaughtered, children have been tortured for two years.
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peaceful demonstrators in the beginning were ruthlessly crushed. why is the line chemical weapons? >> if you look at this conflict and say why did we draw this particular red line, i'll tell you what would have been a red line, air power. this man has had his own air force shell and destroy aleppo, shell and destroy homs and nothing was said. look at bashar's logic. look in the bunker where bashar lives. he's broken every code in the world, and no one did anything to him. >> we're going to take a quick break. later on, what can american forces actually do to syria? what can syrian forces do in return? let us know what you think on twitter. a wakeup call on sleeping pills. what you don't know about them is enough to keep anyone up at night. dr. sanjay gupta has some important information. we'll be right back. ... is me. my dna...
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welcome back. breaking news tonight. a major setback for american efforts to win military support against syria, britain's house of commons rejecting force and the white house signaling it might take action unilaterally. back with my panel. there is this real concern we were talking about before the break, say the regime does fall and you have rebel groups, other al qaeda groups and what they may do a slaughter that could occur against supporters of the regime. >> first of all, it's intimately tied to the presence of al qaeda as well. it's part of the international al qaeda prez sense. >> they are some of the most effective fighters on the ground.
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>> bin laden tried for years to cook up his own chemical weapons or find them someplace else and there is the potential for them -- a number of them to be delivered into the hands of really bad guys who are opposing the regime of assad. it's a real mess. what i don't see, we don't want to beat it to death but i don't see anything we're talking about doing limits that possibility and if, in fact, we move to bring down assad you might increase the possibility al qaeda might get these weapons. >> do you buy that? >> i don't. i'll tell you why. the population rose under the tyranny of the assads and the terror that that country lived under. the people rose in rebellion against that kind of regime. that they're going to barter their freedom and give it to some guys from libya, and they only came because the great powers didn't come. this whole idea about the muslim front came to syria.
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they came to syria because nobody else came to syria. the powers didn't come to syria. i have faith in the syrian people. i have faith in the free syrian army and the syrian center. we have already witnessed in many towns where the muslim front has power, people have risen against them. syrians have demonstrated against the muslim front. so we have to have courage. if you want to do war, you have to have faith in yourself and faith in other people. i have faith in the syrians i know that they don't want to live under the tyranny of al qaeda or the muslim front. if we don't believe that, we shouldn't do any of this. >> what fouad is saying is right, i don't worry about al qaeda as much as i do hezbollah. hezbollah is far greater aligned with the qods force -- >> they're fighting on the side of the regime. >> that's right. they're a pro regime force bankrolled by the government of iran. they have enjoyed safe haven in
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syria for years. so the weapons falling into their hands is a real risk. when you talk about a limited tactical strike, and will it have any effect, what i worry about is the use it or lose it syndrome. so if you're assad and you feel only more corner by even a limited strike, perhaps you launch what chemical weapons you've got against the population, because you're afraid there will be further bombings. i'm sure military planners are looking at that possibility, but that's a real risk. this notion of a limited -- if you're going to go in, you better go in with a full comprehensive strategy. i'm not advocating boots on the ground, but there can be an air campaign taking out the air power that's been used against the syrian people. >> a lot of people just hearing you talk throughout the united states, are thinking this just sounds like iraq. the u.s. yet again when we're trying to get out of afghanistan, when we're seeing iraq already starting to blow up literally every day with car bombs again, although nobody is
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paying much attention it to. john king, where is the calculous for the white house in this? are they looking at this in the wider geopolitical conflict? is that the calculation? >> i think the conversation you're having with very smart people right now underscores the problem for the administration. if this happens, and if it goes well, we'll forget about this. but at the moment, there's a great deal of confusion. there's no clarity of what the u.s. position is right now. even on this phone call tonight with members of congress, the frustration after it is, the administration cannot clearly explain what is the goal of these military strikes. what do they want syria to look like the day after, the week after, the month after they do this. that's the challenge for the administration. because of the complexities you are talking about. the communications up to this point from the administration have frankly been very confusing. you have state department people saying one thing, pentagon people saying another.
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people at the white house saying something else. that will be forgotten if that goes well. but if it doesn't go well, imagine this is the president who made his name saying he was going to get us out of the middle east, he was not going to act unilaterally, he was going to reestablish u.s. credibility with these arab nations. at the moment, one of the challenges for the president and one of the reasons people think we're past the point of no return is he's being told his credibility is at stake if he does nothing. >> you don't put much stock in this? >> anderson, if making war gives you credibility as a president, we would have to say george w. bush has more credibility happen just about any president in history. i don't think most americans feel that way, frankly. because i think that they feel we got into a very bad war in iraq that paid very few returns for the american people. fouad says if you want to make war, you have to do this. the american people don't want to make war.
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they don't want to do it. >> forgive me, i think you've said iraq too many times. but nevertheless -- >> i agree. >> i think we were in iraq too long. >> we need to explain to the public, the public is reluctant about all wars, all wars. but the job description of a leader, we elect a president who will explain to the american public what the stakes for them are in a world where chemical weapons and mass murder in a country on the mediterranean, that this goes on for three years and we pay it no attention. it's part of the job description to explain to -- >> if you don't have a force on the ground that can take over, then what do you accomplish with even a much more significant operation against -- >> fouad, final thought? >> in were many good choices on the front end and barack obama did not make those choices. >> thanks to my panel. coming up, assad's firepower. we'll take a look at what the united states has to consider,
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knows about the chemical weapons attack that has the united states considering an attack in syria. senior u.s. officials tell cnn that intercepted conversations reveal senior members of the assad regime preparing for a massive chemical attack and discussing it afterwards, saying it was getting a lot of attention and would be wise to lie low for a while. intelligence showed increased shelling outside the attack. now the question becomes what are the syrian regime's military capabilities right now and what does the united states have to consider in making a decision about whether to launch a strike? joining me now are james "spider" marks, and christopher harmer. general, let's start with you. we know a lot about what the u.s. has in terms of capabilities, five destroyers in the mediterranean, other assets in the region. what do we know about assad's capabilities at this point? >> assad's military is still very capable. the syrian army has a very short track record in terms of military successes. they have not been successful
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for years in terms of their application of force in the region. clearly since the insurgency has been in place, they've achieved a good deal of success. we thought assad was losing momentum and thought he was a dead man walking. he has since gained some incredible strength. so assad has capabilities and a lot of that is very kinetic. he also has hezbollah on his side, which is part of his force not fully integrated but part of the fighting force on the ground right now. so it's a capable military. it's not been completely degraded. his air force remains in place and he still has a navy. so he has conventional forces and has not demonstrated any hesitation to use it. >> general, in terms of chemical weapons, is it true you can't strike the sites because that could detonate the weapons themselves? >> you can strike the sites and destroy them and minimize the down wind hazard that would ensue.
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so there is a way to control it. all the discussions so far have been we intend not to do that. what the intent is, is to strike assad's ability to deliver the chemical munitions. in terms of a military imperative, there doesn't seem to be one right now relative to the issue of chemical weapons. >> chris, we hear a lot of bluster from russia and iran, the imminent destruction of israel. is a lot of that tough talk from russia and iran? is it just talk or sit a real concern? >> at this point i would say there's a very real concern, but we have to look at the iranian history and how they project force. overwhelmingly that is through proxy forces such as hezbollah. hezbollah is task saturated. on one hand, they have significant forces engaged in syria on behalf of the assad
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regime. on the other hand, they're completely busy back in lebanon defending themselves against car bombs from sunni activists who are reacting to the hezbollah presence in syria. so i don't think hezbollah right now has sufficient band width to engage against the u.s. or israel. it is a consideration we need to take into our calculations but not something that should deter us from acting in our strategic interests. >> thank you very much. up next, important new information you need to know. dr. sanjay gupta joins me ahead. also, investigators say the hannah anderson kidnapping case. what her aunt told our drew griffin ahead. ( bell rings ) they remind me so much of my grandkids. wish i saw mine more often, but they live so far away. i've been thinking about moving in with my daughter and her family. it's been pretty tough since jack passed away. it's a good thing you had life insurance through the colonial penn program. you're right. it was affordable, and we were guaranteed acceptance. guaranteed acceptance? it means you can't be turned down because of your health.
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counter sleep aids, as well. the study doesn't say if that's good or bad. what does it say that so many of us are using drugs to help us sleep? dr. sanjay gupta joins me now. sanjay, 9 million americans using sleeping pills, that's a huge number. >> it is a huge number and more people are turning to sleeping pills than ever before. i's been going on for some time now. people are turning to these pills more than they have in years past, and often times turning to them very early on, so as quickly after they develop sleep problems, going to the sleeping pills earlier than they had before. >> and certain groups of people, women, older individuals, they're taking sleep aids more than others, right? >> the most common group of people were people in their 80s. older people, more likely women versus men, and more highly educated. so highly educated, older women
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who fit the most common category using the sleep aid. >> i thought middle aged tv anchors would be in the highest category. >> some that i know are. >> the same study also suggested that a lot more people who are trying nonprescription remedies, does that concern you? >> well, i think there's some good options out there for people who don't want to go straight to a prescription medication. potency can vary, so one time you may get a certain effect, the next time not the same effect. and they can linger into the next day. so you may have some significant daytime sleepiness. >> is it the same kind of sleep? is the sleep you get taking -- after taking a pill, is it the same as regular sleep? >> it doesn't appear to be. that sort of deep sleep that you get, the amount of time that you spend in that deep sleep may be reduced in response to some of these sleep aids. you may wake up thinking i can just slept a very good night,
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i think is i helpful for people having trouble sleeping, but overall, you may not have gotten the same amount of deep sleep. you may still have drowsiness, and people will take these pills over and over again. really, they're not designed to be taken for maybe a few weeks at the most in a row. after that, it may not offer as much benefit and could offer harm. >> and they don't come without risk. we've talked about ambien and the fact that i've taken it after having a glass of wine, especially on an airplane. if i want to sleep, i will have a glass of wine and ambien, you say that's a big mistake. >> i was pretty hard on you, wasn't it? >> yes. i still do it, i must say. every now and then. >> only because i care, anderson. seriously, the way that a lot of these drugs work is essentially by depressing your central nervous system, slowing it down. by itself, again, it can be very effective as a sleep aid. once you start to layer in other things, in this case alcohol or
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anything else, you start to get an exponential effect here. so you're fine when you're awake, but when you go to sleep, eventually, your drive to breathe may be impaired and that can cause real problems. people on ambien, you hear about sleep driving, people sleep texting. you sleep text, you sleep text me all the time. i can only imagine you were under ambien at the time. >> that's not true. >> it can have these sort of strange effects. that's part of the reason the fda and other people are looking into it. >> i'll lay off the wine and the ambien. sanjay, thank you very much. >> you got it. just ahead, why would hannah anderson's kidnapper, james dimaggio, destroy a family he was so close to? hannah's great aunt is speaking out. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan.
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the tragedy has spun out half a dozen theories, one of the most stunning came from dimaggio's sister who told piers morgan who said it's possible her brother was a victim. here's what she said about hannah anderson. >> i remember very vividly telling my brother, she's trouble. she's going to -- she's -- i said you need to watch out for that one. she's trouble. >> if you believe she was trouble, it may well be that your brother became infatuated with her. >> i know that jim did express at that time that he was -- she stated that she was very upset with her mother. she blamed her mother for her father moving to tennessee. in my heart of hearts, i think that hannah perhaps got herself into a situation that she couldn't get herself out of, and i do believe that my brother gave his life to protect her. >> gave his life to protect her. a lot of people found those remarks offensive. hannah anderson is a 16-year-old
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girl who has lost her mother and brother. we don't know what she endured. cnn's drew griffin has the latest. >> reporter: hannah anderson arrived at the memorial service for her mother and brother seemingly in an upbeat mood. family members say it is a facade. they tell cnn she's confused, not sure how to act in the face of terrible tragedy. according to even those in her family, there are many unanswered questions. why did a long-time family friend, named jim dimaggio, kill hannah anderson's mother christina and brother ethan. what led dimaggio, as authorities believe, to leave behind timers that would set his california desert cabin ablaze with the two murder victims inside? and a question just as mysterious, and far more delicate for members of hannah anderson's own family, why did dimaggio allow hannah to survive? and in fact, kidnap her on a
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1,000 mile journey to idaho? >> there's some thinking along that line that maybe this man was terribly infatuated or more with hannah. and it looks like it was very premeditated in my view. >> reporter: in fact, there is more evidence dimaggio may have been infatuated with a 16-year-old girl, who grew up calling him uncle jim. hannah anderson's friend, marisa chavez, recalled a car ride with uncle jim and an awkward admission. >> he said don't think i'm weird or creepy uncle jim, he just said if i were your age, i would date you. >> in the beginning i was a victim. now, i consider myself a survivor instead. >> her brief comments on the "today" show confirm what little police have said. hannah anderson is a victim. >> i want to emphasize during the law enforcement interviews with hannah, it became very clear to us, very clear, that
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she is a victim in every sense of the word in this horrific crime. from the time of her abduction to her recovery in idaho, she was under extreme, extreme duress. >> reporter: two weeks after making that statement, nothing's changed here at the sheriff's department. their investigation has found hannah anderson was nothing more than a victim in this case, pure and simple. jim dimaggio was the perpetrator and he is dead. the case closed. it is cut and dry. >> for them it's cut and dry. >> reporter: jennifer willis is the late christina anderson's aunt. born three years apart. this were more like sisters she said. >> i just get this feeling it's not as cut and dry as it seems. i don't know how he could have done something like that to his friends. i just don't feel at ease about it at all. it's not cut and dry. >> reporter: for years, jim
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dimaggio was the family friend. the cabin dimaggio owned an hour outside of san diego was the anderson family getaway. but willis says in the past year, the family dynamics had changed. christina and brett anderson, hannah's parents, had separated. brett anderson moved to tennessee. then according to jennifer willis, dimaggio began to face financial troubles that led to foreclosure on the cabin they all loved. jennifer talked to christina just days before her murder. >> she said, he's having a hard time, losing his house, he doesn't know what to do, he's depressed. she went there to be by his side one last time. that's the kind of person she was. dropped everything and went there for him. >> reporter: that's apparently when dimaggio snapped. christina and ethan's bodies, or what was left of them, were found in this burned down cabin. documents show ethan's body so badly charred, an autopsy could
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not determine the cause of death. christina anderson had been hit in the head, wrapped in a tarp and left to burn, leaving a host of unanswered questions, including why. >> beside the fact that he's sick, he's a monster, he did what he did, why did it have to happen to them? >> reporter: why did it happen to tina and ethan and not to hannah? >> right. >> reporter: i hate to ask these questions almost, but was there any relationship between her and jim dimaggio? >> none that i am aware of. none that anyone was aware of. i would never have imagined anything like that with her. >> reporter: amidst all the turmoil, hannah anderson's family is now trying to determine what happens next. the teenager is dealing with the loss of her mother and brother, and the sudden return of her biological father. a man who returned from tennessee hiring a publicist who
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is talking book and movie deals and telling hannah's family his daughter will now live with him. through that same publicist, brett anderson turned down cnn's request for an interview. >> hannah is back, she's safe, she's okay, and from there i think it should be left alone. >> reporter: relatives say hannah will return to high school here in the next few days and try to live "as normal a life as possible." >> drew, there are a lot of unanswered questions. the sheriff's office basically stopped talking, right? >> reporter: that's right. really they have not released anything in the past week. the only thing left to learn here, anderson, and possibly to be released publicity is the toxicology report on jim dimaggio. was there anything in his system that could explain why he did what he did? those results should be back within a couple of weeks and maybe, maybe released, anderson. >> as for the connection between dimaggio and hannah anderson as well as any motive, police are still investigating, correct?
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>> reporter: they are. and they're wrapping up their reports. that doesn't mean the reports will be released. i talked to the sheriff's department today. they believe the case is wrap l up. jim dimaggio killed two people, kidnapped a third and was killed. that's the end of the story according to police. california law does not require those investigative reports to be released. and they most likely won't be. as far as hannah anderson is concerned, i've got to tell you, i talked to the sheriff this past sunday night. most of that conversation was off the record. but he did say this, this girl is a minor. her privacy is protected and it will be protected by his office, even if that means not sharing information with the members of jim dimaggio's family or even hannah's family. >> drew griffin, thanks. we wish her the best. we'll be right back. female narrator: through labor day at sleep train,
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higher prices this fall. no matter what, a fruit market will go on in one atlanta neighborhood where tom foreman takes us on this week's "american journey." >> it's going to be our naturally sweetest fruit. passion fruit mango. >> reporter: as sure as peaches pop out in summer, every day customers pour into lottafrutta. >> fresh cut coconut. >> reporter: she knows how much that matters. when she moved her, it was an urban food desert, with almost no fruit and vegetables. >> i figured if i could not find this anywhere, why not open up my own establishment and offer every single day for me, for selfish reasons, and for everyone else?
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>> reporter: some predicted locals would not support her, but that was seven years ago. >> thank you very much. >> reporter: and lottafrutta has been growing ever since. elaborate fruit cups, smoothies and more. >> there's nothing like this anywhere around here. >> reporter: lottafrutta is so important to the community's identity, it's been given a $50,000 expansion loan from the city. >> this is an up and coming neighborhood being revitalized. so we're always looking to incentivize and assist investments that help attract and keep residents in neighborhoods like this. >> i am a self-accredited, self-appointed fruitologist, only because i have a love and passion for fruit. mangos. >> reporter: her secret is simple, the first part -- >> everything we do here, we would want to eat. and we put a lot of care and consideration into what we do and how we prepare it. >> reporter: and the second part -- >> a lot of work.
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>> reporter: that's made this combination of fresh fruit and a fresh idea into a homegrown success. tom foreman, cnn. >> that does it for us. thanks for watching. "early start" starts now. striking syria. president obama confident the government poisoned their own people. will the u.s. do anything about it? we are live. . thousands of fast food workers taking to the streets demanding a better wage. a new warning this morning about the deadly dangers of tylen tylenol. good morning, everyone. welcome to "early start." i'm poppy harlow. >> it is
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