to come from the university. i think, women, strongly. because when you see 70% in research that says they're the leaders of the household, what we need is what people to realize, i want to raise my kid. i want to go back and get my three kids. i want to take on that responsibility. i want to love my children. you know, one of the great pictures that, you know, reaches me, because it is special. is to go to for instance, the essence affair and walking around to see -- yeah. to see a black male with his child on the shoulders and

holding -- it means something. and i'm sure this president of the college, knows what it feels like to welcoming the fresh people in and look out and see father. serious about it. because it's -- it's not difficult to do. and you don't have to just jump up one day. you can ease yourself into it. because we have great things happening. graduates of the naval academy. military academy. graduates of all kind of moore house and miles and college -- >> harvard and yale. >> by the same toiken, we also need those people. go to community college. okay so you backed up and didn't do well. you quit school but now you find you need that high school

credential. go to the community college. get yourself there. put your body in line. and i don't like the phrase reinvent yourself, because you never were invented. just go and sit there and understand you're going to get an education. because that's what happened to me. at age 19 1/2, i just knew that i didn't want to do certain things. and it wasn't what they were doing to me. it's what i wasn't doing. it is a very simple thing. >> hello, everyone. i'm don lemon. as promised, we are playing my entire interview with bill cosby. more of that in a moment. but first, i want to tell you we are keeping an eye on other big stories today. the rain is in colorado is finally easing off. but hundreds are still unaccounted for. tomorrow is a big day for the crisis in syria. the u.n. will issue its report on what inspectors found on

their chemical weapons probe. we have a lot more of those stories just ahead. more with bill cosby. the legendary entertainer was in birmingham, alabama to commemorate the 50th anniversary of a bombing that killed four little girls. he talks about what some call respectability politics. today, many people call it respectability polpolitics. and it is respecting the white man because you look at thing this way. what do you think about respectability. >> well, i don't know what they are talking about. i think it is an excuse because they don't know their history and when you speak like that, you don't know how people get to a certain point. for instance, if a person

doesn't come to a certain neighborhood, then people say, well, nobody want to come here. okay. so then when a person comes, then they say, well, will he be back? so how many times do you have to continue to come back before the people you are trying to help really believe that you're serious. so somewhere in the psyche is, maybe a low self esseem to or maybe not wanting to get started or very much like some people who will say, oh, wait, give me -- give me the job first then i'll study to see how to do it. i don't want to have to work for something and then be disappointed and not get it. so i'll just stay in the position i'm in. >> and there is a difference,

though. because in that, you're not saying, that you're going to end racism or discrimination or you're not going to encounter it because you are talking in, and i don't want to put words in your mouth, about pefrnl responsibility. those are two difference conversations and two different methods of dealing with things. >> and the people who say it, the wrong way, know exactly what they're saying. they are protectionists. they are no-grows. who perhaps see themselves maybe out of work. if our people decide to all get together and say, yeah, he's right. i got to take care of my kids. yes, the resolution is in the home. it is here. you can't keep pointing there if you know who the enemy happens to be, then put yourself in the position to unseat the enemy and

become the hometown favorite. >> you are passionate about that issue and you're passionate about entrepreneurship, about education. and it is the reason you are in birmingham on this anniversary, the 50th anniversary of the 16th street baptist church, to honor the four little girls, but also to do what? to move what forward in the future? why are you doing what you're doing? >> we were attacked, all of us, and we have been attacked, all of us. i want fight back. our criminal justice system in terms of our teenage people, and some cities, if you could walk in and look at how many people are in charge of a kid who's

coming in with the suit on and whatever that kid has done or they said he's done, how many people, if they did the job correctly, on the chain, could make the parent of the child feel better? maybe the kid won't understand it. but the explanations are there. we have places that kids go to, boys, juvenile. and the director said to me, on this one place, you know, 70% of our kids are medicated. okay. give yourself eight months of taking medication to keep you subdued. and by the way, i told these young fellows who were incarcerated, if you don't feel right, if you want to talk to somebody, go see the psychologist. afterwards, this woman came to me and said, thanks a lot. there will be a line all the way

around my -- for people to see me. i didn't say anything to her. but my point is, if you drug these people, and then you release them and then there's no prescription for them to get, to take, to do the same thing, and they go back to the same place. now about this time, this is when you hear the no-grows jump up and say, why don't you talk about the good things. because the good thing happened to be taking care of themselves pretty well. we're trying to help those geniuses, those not geniuses, people who deserve because they are human beings on this earth, in the united states of america. we are trying to get them in a position so that they will understand and want to. >> why is it so hard for some people to get that message, though? to hear that message. to receive that message and without lashing out?

>> well, it is because they feel, i think, i think they feel embarrassed. i think they feel embarrassed, about, you know -- samy davis said something to me one day. we were in a routine. and i told him, i knew something. and he said, no, you don't. i said, yes, i do. and i said it, and he said, no, that's not the way it goes. i said the same thing louder. and he said, bill, saying it loud don't make it right. and so, every loud vice you hear yelling about something and saying, well, you just -- you lost us. you became a millionaire. the reason why i'm giving you this information is because i was living in the projects. i was not taking care of myself in terms of managing my education. and once the door opened and i saw quote unquote, the light, i

started to become very successful. >> we've got more of my interview with bill cosby straight ahead. and he tells me about how that first moment on national television, seeing the all-white studio audience, in an instant he changed his entire routine. and early reminiscent of hurricane katrina victims, rescued by air. we go live to the colorado for the latest. next. has it's ups and downs.

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well couple back. more on don's interview with bill cosby in a moment. first, flooding in northern california. sear etch and rescue helicopter are where they don't want to be. which means they are not flying, not rescuing, not delivering relief supplies. that may soon change. we just spoke to a senior national guard officer who says the skies are beginning to clear. incident commander says that more than a thousand people are waiting to be air lifted to dryer grounds. now once that weather clears, of course, now that's a thousand people in that county alone. which for folks who are familiar, it is in the ft. collins area. rescue crews say they will go

house to house as soon as they are able to move around safely. the death toll could be as high as six right now. officials fear that number will rise. national guardsmen getting into neighborhoods and get ang accurate count of those folks out there. george howell is live in boulder, colorado. george, looking at the picture behind you, it looks like a river there. about you are telling us, that used to be a road a few hours ago. >> absolutely. used to be a road. started out as a river and now is a stream. you can see there is plenty of debris in this river. i can tell you this. here is the last hour, it seems like the flow has slowed just a bit. that's good news. we had less rain in the last hour or two. that could mean that we can

start seeing things like this subside. but keep in mind, with the rain fall that we had, rosa, we will see more communities that are cut off. and that's the challenge. now with the helicopters are halted, until all of the weather passes, now the helicopter lifts are halted, you may have more people waiting on the other side of the situation like this, waiting for either the water to recede or if it is really bad, waiting for, you know, crews to get to them through eermg help them get to safer ground or bring them supplies, you know, to help them wait it out. >> george, we can't help but think about the people you are mentioning and the number of unaccounted keeps rising. right now, about 500. that's just an enormous jump from yesterday. how are officials explaining that? >> right. so at last check, about 482. and you could look at it like this. we did have a break in the weather the last day or so.

and within that time, perhaps, you know, people were able to charge their cell phones. and main able to call and ask about other relatives who may have cell phones. it is that sort of thing. some people trying to call to reach out to others who may not be reachable at this point, with, you know, more rain and, situation like this, we could have more people trying to reach more relatives, you know, is it possible for that number to go up? that is possible. the hope, though, is that as cell phone reception gets bet are, as phone lines get back on line, people will get in touch with each other and we will see that number. it is quite a significant number. some 500 people will see that number go down here over the next day or two. >> right, george. thank you so much, it is amazing how technology can play a role. remember, if you would like to help victims, visit the impact your world page at cnn.com/impact. when you hear the description,

it is almost like they are in an island and they can't get to them. you can only imagine the fear that they are feeling right now. >> i'm from louisiana. you lived in louisiana for a long time and you remember katrina. 4,000 rescues, 2,000 here. that's a lot of rescues here. as national weather service said, biblical proportions. >> absolutely. it is scary. we are definitely keeping them in our thoughts and prayers. >> welcome to cnn. >> thank you. >> welcome to the broadcast. my mom watched new baton rouge. >> oh i can't wait to meet your mom. >> we have a connection here. my aunt is on city council in west baton rouge. rosa and i share an office. >> thank you so much. >> i have to say, folks, don is phenomenal. what you see is what you get. he is good people. >> oh, there's lots of love here. thank you, rosa. looking forward to working with you, again. welcome to the big channel. all right, more now on my conversation with bill cosby. today marks the 50th anniversary

of a 16th street baptist church. a bomb went offset off by the ku klux klan. bill cosby told me why he believes it is so important never to forget tragic events like the church bombing in 1963. >> what america has to understand, is that some people get embarrassed about what happened. same way if i talk about something, empowerment, and they can do it themselves. there are people who don't want to see these things talked about again. they weren't there. i didn't do it. yes, i'm white, but please, do we have to talk about it. it is painful. but we have to really get to this, so that if you do it the

correct way, which is show your children what happened. tell your children, this is not our fault. but this is what happened then. look at these faces. there's a sickness in these faces. i want to get back -- >> can i get back to 1963? as i talk, my researchers write on august 6, 1963, you were giving your first appearance, national television appearance, on the tonight show with guest host alan sherman who ended up producing your first comedy album. so you have the mar. on washington going on. bombing of 16th street baptist church. then you were breaking barriers in the world as well. what was -- and people think you didn't live through that. some would assume you didn't live through that. but you did. what was on your mind then? >> i had decided that i, as a writer, and a monolo gist, was

k going to go on, and show people, i am the antithesis of what hollywood is putting out for people to see, about us. in 1963, i step out and i walk out on that stage, and i decide not to do the piece i was going to do, but just look at audience. give them a chance to think, because they know that this black face is going to talk about race. and i said to this audience, i want to talk to you about karate. later, every time i'm writing, i'm writing from my black experience without jumping at you saying, i'm black. really?

no, this is the way i am. this is the way we grew up. this is the way we talk. this is the way we move. and so 1963, as well as 1863, when republicans led the charge, to free us as abolitionists, 1963, bam! here's the march. and later on, as time goes, we see the people evolve. >> my interview with bill cosby. you will see more here on cnn. the issue of what was found during a chemical probe in syria. i will ask the panel about it next. but first -- >> this week, putting ideas to work. jim newton is a loif-long do-it-yourselfer who is passionate about making.

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we're tracking developments on the crisis in syria. john kerry meets tomorrow in paris with leaders from france and britain to discuss the agreement hammered out tosyria' weapons. let's talk about this with nick payton walsh and colonel nick pay tona. nick, there hats been criticism for action, paralysis, disagreement, expected to deliver tomorrow's report august

21st. what do you think the role is going to be for the u.n. will it make the u.n.'s role larger? >> in fact we have just heard first official confirmation from the u.n. that report will come out tomorrow morning and the secretary of talk to reporters at 12:50. so we will hear whether or not chemical weapons were used, what kind, and indications that may suggest who is behind it. but that's not the job of the report itself. plus the u.n. is taking a big role this week. because even though the agreement in geneva had a lot of meat to it, it still needs to be inshrined in international law. >> is this a "this is it" moment with the report, findings and all of this. is this "the moment"? >> i think it is another step in the case they're building. but it's right here. the framework sewn only sets up

a guideline for where we would like the human resolution to go. but i think the key will be, what the resolution actually said. is it going to be chapter 7 resolution? include the threat of the use of force? if f it doesn't, is the united states making it clear to syrian and russians that we intend to enforce this and hold them to the time line? so i think the report is just the first step. i think the real action is at the end of the week. >> you know, there are going to be searching for chemical weapons in the middle of civil war. the war itself, if anything, intensified in recent days. have you been saying that here on cnn for a couple ofs now. how do they see cure the weapons. >> you would think it is in the interest of the opposition to have a cease-fire or to adhere to a cease-fire. let inspectors come in and remove the weapons because they are a surge. they've been used against the opposition but the opposition is

not one unified body as we have been talking about. there are groups that make this up. some might go for that but there are other groups, particularly on the islam side that may want to get their hands on the weapons or get a wrench in the process. so they have a real challenge ahead of them. i don't know where we will find those willing to do this. >> i see you shaking your ahead there. >> he has good points. will there be easy access? they will soon find out, if they say, some of that is in rebel territory and we lost hold of that. but this russian american agreement is written in some way that the government can control this, pretty far, pretty effectively. >> nicholas talk about the people here. chemical weapon is aside, people dying in syria everyday.

will this bring an end to the violence? >> no. not at all. it may stop chemical weapons. that's a long shot anyway bp but one interesting thing happen ped. since this remusted focus has come out. many people are almost ignoring it for perhaps two years, the death toll it seems, has gone down a little bit in the last couple of weeks. perhaps the regime was busy doing something else. but something changed slightly. and the level of scrutiny may see a change in months ahead. and that reduces the number of women and children who are killed everyday in horrible circumstances. >> because of the level of focus we may see a change. but my question to you, colonel franconia, what does this to to reduce violence in syria, anything? >> i don't think it does anything pch.

this will continue until there is more pressure from the outstied get the two sides apart and get on the path to diplomatic solution. when you raise that, talk to the people involved, there is just so much hatred involved on both sides. i don't think we're's there yet. chemical weapons as we move forward, animosity on both sides is something we haven't seen before. >> a very good point. the whole thrust of this, even congressional resolution, discussions are trying to get people to talk, which is fine. but the opposition doesn't want to. rebels don't think it is worth talking right now because it is not talking. they think for someone they can trust. >> all right, gentlemen stand by, more discussion later. thank you very much. >> big news today as a man who may been the next federal reserve chairman says count me out. the political impact of this move coming up.

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they're here. kidding. anna no vara -- >> you say that to all the analysts. >> and commentator -- no, anna, we have a special love for you guys. larry summers, respected guy. but also has his critics. will this make it harder for president obama to choose the next fed chair? lz? >> i don't think so. the president is smart man. he knew the writing on the wall as soon as the name yas out there. it is well known this is his number one choice. members of his own party rejected that choice. so it is embarrassing. but there's a lot of bigger things going on. i know this is a big job. i'm not trying to say it's not a big job. but with the issue in syria, this isn't as huge a hinderance if we weren't talking about

possible war. >> ms. no varo? >> we don't know exactly what happened. i can tell you he has a pretty good gig going here, larry summers p. there are also other qualified candidates. this looked like it was going to turn into a vender war. so i think it was a personal decision by larry summers. i'm not sure that it wasn't his own decision to take himself out because why go through this. there were several senators, and folks in congress, who had come out against him in recent days. and he's been there, done that. you know, so i think president obama just blachks slate now to put something that will pass mustard and have no issues in congress and want to dot job and can do the job. i think there is plechbty of those. >> all right. as l.z. pointed out, this is a big job. but all eyes are on syria right now. president obama on tv this morning, defending the new syria agreement, but mccain called the

deal a loser. ana, is he right? >> i think he is very concerned. this is all still very murky. we haven't seen the writing. we haven't seen what deal looks like. i think john mccain and others, like lindsay graham, and others are were very concerned there's no peace to this deal. no credible use of force that in order to be able to use force, which is what you need to get the syrians and russians to do what they need do, you need to go back to the security council. go back to the u.n. in order to be able to do that, where russia can veto it. i think they are having a natural skepticism. we are here in bed with assad. and with putin. who are not exactly our best bed fellows. so a degree of skepticism is a

healthy thing everybody is hoping this work. everybody is hoping assad and putin are struck by miraculous lightning where they have a change of mind and abide by this. but if they don't, there needs to be some way of enforcement. >> l.z., this is a scathing criticism. he describes the overall as this, he willingly jump node a bear trap of his own creation in the process. he has damaged his presidency and weakened the nation's standing in the world. it has been one of the more stunning and iniks olympicable deplays of presidency that i have ever witnessed. your reaction? >> i think that's a little bit after hyperbole. if we comb through history, we can find higher levels of incompetence tense. we look to look at this and look at this through a wider lens. this is not just about syria.

this is about how we run our politics. this is what i mean. two years ago president obama kept the nation at arm's length from a civil war with syria. he was criticized for it. what happened last year? midst of reelection campaign. his opponent was constantly beating him and beating him by saying he was weak because he want doing something about syria. so what did he do as a result? he said some things. some things he now is in a position to have to back up. this is what really happened. this is why we are in the position we're in. he was cornered politically and said things he didn't want it to say. now he has it back it up. i'm not saying that is incompetence tense, this is politics. and politics with international politics. now we have to clean the mess up. the truth is, syria violated international law. that's all he had to say.

it is the world's red line. 98% of the population signed on to the law. i'm not willing to call pim incompetence tent but he did get tripped up in a political tan spin. that's for sure. >> hyperbole from joe cline? >> i had lunch with joe cline earlier this week. even though joe cline, the interesting thing is, joe cline agrees with president obama on the o over all policy. but it is the stye. president obama said i've been consistent. when he says that, he knows he has been perceived as inconsistent. when he says, style, he knows it looks messy, like vacillation. it looks like there is not determination. it isn't pretty. the last two weeks have not been pretty for president obama and his team. they have not acted in concert. they have not shown clarity, vision or strategy.

>> yeah, yeah. all right guys. thanks you very much. short on time here. we'll be right back, everyone.

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best not to come forward. he has fallen on his sword, so the president, who is actually believed to have wanted him for the job, is not going to have to do his job for him. >> what will the impact be? >> i don't think there will be impact. the difference, we can talk about it in small increments and who is more one side or the other, they are very similar on macro economics. nothing for nicanyone to get to concerned about. does he try and convince the job, having seemingly or back to square one to find a new name? >> richard quest. "quest means business." thank, richard. we'll be back, everyone.

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s no doubt who is number one in college football, the alabama crimson tide. they scored 35 unanswered points against texas a&m, beating aggies and johnny manziel. how impressive is this? >> very impressive. don, so impressive that alabama may never lose again. at least not this year. you look at the schedule really the only team that can beat them in first week of november when lsu comes to tuscaloosa and this is not going to happen. this alabama team won three -- >> wait, wait, wait. when lsu comes to tuscaloosa, and you know that's not going to happen. you know i'm a tiger.

>> i knew you would catch that, don. they can make the game close but they made a championship through the last few years. nothing that shows they will not win four out of five. they are loaded at every single position. and no team has been this way in 20, 30, 40 years. >> what about a.m. quarterback johnny football? he led upset of alabama last year. how did he do it? >> look at what he almost did yesterday. this was the guy yesterday, as last year, he has throws and scrambles that are other worldly. this guy is crazy off the field. but on the field, he is spectacular. i was just trying to figure the best way to describe him, don. he looks like fran targatan and maybe the flying walindas. and there is a very good chance he could become the second player ever to win multiple heisman trophies. the only other time that's done

is mid 1970s with archie griffin. >> i'm going to ask you another question, it'll probably take the rest of our time, but with nascar, chase for the can up under way today with 13 drivers because nascar added jeff gordon. but it has to do with a conspiracy by two teams last weekend, to make sure one of their drivers made the chase and a second driver who spun his car on purpose. can you explain any or all of this. >> two words. typical nascar. nascar in 1940 was, based on everything, oversized tires, loose bumper that would fall up to help you race better. the only reason this got a lot of publicity is because nascar panicked. everybody was complaining about it. they did something they shouldn't have done, changing

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a ku klux klan bomb ripped through a church service in alabama. killing four little girls. the girls were given posthumously awards through their family. i asked her mom, what inspired her to lead her family in that way. >> you had to have a grandma like mine. she didn't take crap from anybody. and you had to do right because it aright to do right. that was one of her favorite expressions. and so as a result of that, a lot of my attitude was based on that premise. that the only thing i can say. i often wondered what made me

choose the attitude that i have, and that the conclusion i came to. >> so much more with mcnair family on cnn.com as well as my interview with bill cosby as well. and details of the legacy of that church bombing. i'm don lemon. stay with cnn tonight. a great lineup for you. good night. people are lighting up all over the country. they call it the green rush. marijuana moved out of the back alleys and into the open. >> i have a canibas truck, y'all. >> in some states, legal to grow, sell and smoke and could