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good evening, everyone, i'm
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good evening, everyone, i'm erin burnett "outfront" tonight we begin with major new developments in the navy yard shootings. signs missed, outrage justified tonight. today mourning in washington for the victims.
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>> reporter: that's right, erin. her name is bonita bell. she's a scientist with the federal government. she says she spoke actually to aaron alexis three times last week, twice on tuesday, once on wednesday. and while she does not forgive the rampage, she does wonder whether there was anything she could have done to help them. >> well, we talked for about 15 minutes. we talked about southern culture. we talked about the fact that we were both there. he asked me how long i would be there. i said overnight. and he said that he would be there for awhile. >> did he tell you how long? >> yeah. i asked him. i said awhile? i said, awhile? and he says yes, i'll be here for quite some time. i said how long? he said for a couple of weeks. >> so you met him again the next day. >> i ran into him again on wednesday. and his countenance was markedly
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different on wednesday. >> how so? >> he was very hurried. he said that he was extremely tired. he said, i'm tired. i'm exhausted. i got to go. i got to go. i'm going to take my food up to the room. >> did you get a sense that he was troubled? >> his demeanor on wednesday was, as i say, the antithesis of tuesday. and so he did appear troubled. he appeared stressed. >> reporter: last wednesday was september 11th. the father of aaron alexis has been quoted as saying his son suffered from ptsd as a result of helping people on september 11th, 2001 in new york. that has not been confirmed when i talked to bonita bell. she said they did not talk about september 11th, aaron. >> interesting, joe, from your interview just because of the things we've heard from people who knew him at the bhuddist temple who said what a quiet, likable person he was and others saying a very much more taciturn person she could see those two
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in one so quickly. you've reported they have his computer, other belongings, looking at surveillance tape from. your reporting, do they have any sense of whether he had a specific motive, a specific plan to do this at this point? >> reporter: certainly nothing they're saying. of course there is hope that the computer will reveal certain facts, perhaps web sites he's visited, other information. on the other hand, there's a real question of course as to whether he had any business contacts with some of the people in the offices that he visited here at the navy yard. i asked that question to the people running the investigation, and no one would give me an answer today, erin. >> joe johns, thank you very much for reporting on this story. obviously that interview with bonita bell a fascinating and important little piece there to what was happening in this man's mind in the days as this horrible event approached. the one thing we do know tonight is that there were major missed warning signs.
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there's no sugar coating this. and while there's passing the blame going on, the reality is a lot of people made some horrible mistakes. there are new details tonight that 34-year-old aaron alexis contacted two veterans affairs hospitals very recently. according to sources he was being treated for sleep-related problems. and this comes on the heels of news that alexis was paranoid. he said he was being follow and hearing voices in his head. and our deborah feyerick is out with that part of the story. the deb, this part of the story absolutely essential. this is where if the dots had been connected, if one person had told another this event could have been prevented. what have you learned about alexis contacting those hospitals and his mental state? >> reporter: it was crucial because clearly he knew that is was going on. just over six week ago a naval base in new report, rhode island was contacted by local police who warned them about a very strange incident involving this contractor, aaron alexis.
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he had called police early one morning, telling them he was being followed, he was hearing voices of people. he couldn't see these people but he was convinced they were out to hurt him. this was in august, about the same time that he went to a v.a. hospital in rhode island for help with insomnia. he'd also gone to a similar facility we're now learning in washington, d.c. well, alexis told newport police that he'd gotten into an argument and was being harassed by three people who were following him and keeping him awake by talking to him and sending vibrations into his body using what he called a microwave machine. he actually moved hotels three times, but he told police that the voices simply didn't go away. he even went to one hotel on a navy base, and he told police that the same voices were talking to him through the walls, the floor, the ceiling. when asked by police, alexis told them that he didn't have any history of mental illness in the family, that he'd never had any sort of mental episode. but clearly the fact that he was having trouble sleeping and this
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was preying on his psyche on his nerves he had gone to the v.a. hospitals to at least get help trying to fall asleep, erin. >> so you're reporting he went to three hotels because he's hearing voices in the walls and through microwaves talking to him. he went to police. and those police, what did they do with that information? when we get to this question of did the navy know? >> reporter: the newport police knew there was a problem. they actually contacted their counterparts at the naval station, aware of the implications that one of their contractors was behaving strangely, he was hearing voices, things just didn't make sense. so they sent a copy of the incident report to the duty officer. the duty officer said it would be followed up. we did reach out, but neither the navy nor the fbi is commenting on what actually happened to that information. but if he was working or -- he was working at the newport naval base, had they gotten that information they may have been able to check him out, to investigate him, to question him. but it doesn't appear, certainly
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if he was able to go to a next navy base that indeed happened. all of that right now under very intense scrutiny, erin. >> intense scrutiny. as you said it doesn't appear it happened. we're still waiting for them to confirm, admit, and figure out what the story is there. thank you to deb. now i'm bringing in our former fbi agent ken clemente and former navy seal. tim you just heard deb reporting. alexis contacted two veterans affairs hospitals. most important the police had heard he'd gone to them saying i've heard voices in the walls in three hotels. had reached out for help to police in newport. and they told the newport naval base. you heard deb say look it appears clear that that naval base somehow that didn't get passed all the way up the chain at the navy. would you agree that's going to be the verdict here? >> i would agree. i'm sure they probably tried to do something, maybe there was documentation put down about the report from the police officers.
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but it could be that hasn't gone all the way up the chain there. it may be there's a dozen layers after the the base that have to approved the report that goes out. maybe there's medical personnel that come in once a week or something and have to review it because it deals with the medical, psychological aspect of a person that's working there. i don't know what the layers are. in a bureaucracy as big as dod you're going have a lot of players. those layers slow down the transfer of information. unfortunately in this case that information was slowed down to the point of causing a lot of lives. >> now i want to ask you about something joe johns was reporting on the alexis going into the navy yard with that bag and in that bag he had a disassembled shotgun. came out of the bathroom it was assembled. his ammunition was buck shot shells. our understanding he was shooting from a fourth floor balcony down to a cafeteria below. from a distance talking about buck shot, what does this tell you? >> well, it tells me that he had
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the intent of trying to kill as many people as possible. somebody who's going to hunt with a shotgun, hunt bird, they're going to get something that's a lot of small pellets that disperses like that. it won't ruin the meat. .00 buck is maybe 8 to 12 large pellets that comes out like a punch. we used to use those to shoot down basically open up and breach doors when we were on the s.e.a.l. teams. it has a very nasty effect if you're shooting a human with one of those. >> so since you know a lot about it, explain, do you think -- how well thought through his decision would have been to choose that kind of ammunition, this kind of buck shot shells as opposed to something else? earlier reports that it was an ar 15 or some other kind of weapon? >> right. well like i said earlier, he was going in there with the intent to kill as many people as possible. he didn't just randomly say i'll take that box of shotgun shell. he picked the most lethal type you can. and you were talking about sort of the missed steps. if you'll allow me to go back in the timeline to 2007 when he
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enlisted in the military. that was a time when the military was failing to reach recruitment goals, and so therefore they stopped -- or they started giving waivers for criminal and moral. in 2007 when he enlisted, they issued 909 waivers. so a, he would not have normally been allowed to get in the military but he did. he received a secret clearance based on the work he did in the navy. and then as a result of all the problems he ran into in the navy, he should have received an other than honorable discharge and those things would never have allowed him to receive future clearances or even work in the capacity that he did. >> tim, to that point, cade raising the point the difficulty the military was having recruiting in 2007 that they should have been aware of the prior arrests. any sane situation would have prevented him from joining. do you think -- some are trying to say this. and forget the politics of it.
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i'm just curious as to your point of view. the cutbacks, the sequester, those things are now impacting the navy's ability and willingness to conduct the kind of security checks and background checks that they need to. >> yeah. but i might agree that there's been a lot of cutbacks because of the sequester. i mean, i have a whole host of friend and family that work in the dod community in the northern virginia and washington, d.c. area. it does affect pretty much everyone. but this guy's been working since before the sequester's hit. so maybe his last clearance check that should have been done, that re upped this year for his contracting work now, maybe that is affected by the sequester. but we're going back years before the sequester with most of what was happening. to what cade was saying earlier about his use of a shotgun, concealment of a shotgun. remington 870 is a very easy gun to disassemble. we used to do it every single day on a shift when i was a police officer before and after,
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disasim accept bell it down to the four or five major parts you take apart in seconds. that thing is easily concealable in a small bag. he used the weapon exactly as you just heard. it's a broad scatter gun so you're going to broadcast those eight to 12 basically .38 caliber pellets on a wide swath from the distance he was on the fourth floor. it's the most effective way without great accuracy to hit a lot of people and do a lot of ungodly damage. >> certainly shows he knew what he was doing and had intent to do it. thanks very much to both of you. we appreciate it. still to come, aaron alexis had a history of arrests as i mentioned and gun-related incidents. again this crucial question, how could he have been hired back to the navy as a contractor? and frankly, how could he have been let go as you just heard? cade and tim referred to with an honorable discharge given his record? plus the chairman of the house committee on homeland security, michael mccall is outfront. i'll ask him how with that history, aaron alexis was granted the security clearance
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welcome back to a special live edition of "outfront." tonight we are learning it was the navy that gave aaron alexis his security clearance in 2007 and that security clearance was good for ten years. can you imagine just ten years' blanket? it was issued three years after alexis was arrested for what police called an anger-fueled shooting in seattle. how is that possible? drew griffin has been digging into all of this. he has an outfront investigation. >> reporter: here is the fact. aaron alexis was getting onto bases all summer long with a military-approved pass called a cac card. with all the approvals and access that came with it. >> mr. alexis had legitimate access to the navy yard as a result of his work as a contractor. and he utilized a valid pass to gain entry to the building. >> reporter: from july until yesterday morning, alexis had worked at six military facilities up and down the eastern seaboard, refreshing computers as part of a massive contract.
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the u.s. navy yard would be his seventh job site. the question, how did he get approved? take a look at what we found easily in just one day of searching. a 2004 arrest in seattle. according to the investigating officer, alexis didn't like the way a car was parked, so he shot out the tires. he would tell police as a new yorker he was still suffering from the effects of the 9/11 terrorist attack. in 2007, he joins the navy where in nearly four years he has eight disciplinary issues, ranging from insubordination to disorderly conduct in 2008 he's briefly jailed in dekalb county, georgia for an outburst that included damaging furnishings and swearing at officers outside a nightclub. another red flag. then in ft. worth, texas in 2010, he is arrested again for
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firing a bullet through the ceiling of his apartment. he told police he was cleaning a gun and his hands slipped and pulled the trigger. three arrests, possible mental health issues, and a less than exemplary military record. what happened? we asked the navy's spokesman, rear admiral john kirby. >> 2007 he didn't have nearly the paperwork problems that we have now. so he passes the security clearance. >> right. >> but while he's in the navy, this guy has a bunch of problems and yet the navy allows him to essentially least service with his clearance intact. >> that's right. >> making him gold to these contractors who are scrambling to get workers. >> the administrative offenses he was guilty of in the navy, dereliction of duty, absent without leave, habitually late for work, while not commendable for a navy sailor don't rise to the level that would instantly call for a revocation of a security clearance. >> do you know if the navy had access to his criminal arrest behavior.
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>> those are the forensics that we're doing, we're trying to take a look at through those brushes with civilian law enforcement, if we missed anything. and so we're looking at that right now. >> they're looking at that right now. but it's pretty clear there were some big mistakes made. but alexis was also checked out, i know, just in the past year, the past two months by the defense contractor, the subcontractor to hewlett-packard for which he was work. and they didn't find anything either? >> reporter: that is what is so really hard to believe in all this. according to that defense contractor, they checked him out twice in the last year. and both times got his secret security clearance approved by the department of defense. the latest check, according to this company, was in june, erin. and they said that all they came up with was a minor traffic
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violation. that is an almost ridiculous security check if they can't even find what you and i can find or anybody else can find on the internet these days. >> drew griffin, thank you very much with that investigative report here. i want to bring in now outfront republican congressman michael mccall, chairman of the house homeland security committee. senator mccall you just heard that report from drew griffin. and i'm trying to figure out exactly where to start with you on this. let's start i guess with this issue. how is it that the navy to begin with could give this person secret clearance, security clearance, when he had been arrested for gun violence in the three years prior to that time? how could that happen? is that acceptable in any situation? >> i don't think it is. i think your prior piece illustrates all the problems that we're finding with these clearances and who we're issuing them. to remember, alexis had three arrests, one prior to his
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clearance where he had anger fuelled blackouts according to the police report, and yet that was never picked up on. then we know that he had a v.a. mental health issues. there was also a phone call to the newport police department where he said he was hearing voices. this is really not that long ago. hearing voices and thought that people were following him around. my understanding that that was reported to the newport military base. i don't know what was done with that information. but as you point out, so many flags in the process, and yet all the -- it just all slipped through the cracks unfortunately. >> and i can confirm for you, yes, our reporting is that the police in rhode island did call that navy base. but we don't know at this point either what that navy base did. how high up in the navy that report went about aaron alexis hearing voices. i guess the question to you, senator mccall, what is wrong at the navy? is this something you can blame on they're using outside contractors to do a lot of this
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screening whether it be for basic background checks or security clearance? or is it something more significant than that? >> well, there's a high demand for clearances on the outside with the contractors. but clearly in this case -- here's the big issue, erin, that concerns me. we know that al qaeda and terrorist groups would love to infiltrate or radicalize or find someone that has this access, these clearances, to get on a military installation and cause the type of tragedy that he caused. so i think we need a more heightened state of alert when it comes to who we're giving these clearances out. to this is a secret level. this is the u.s. federal government trust of an individual with classified information, but also access to a very sensitive military installation. and yet it looks like there's not enough precautions here in place. >> and what about the issue here, i'm wondering if you think it's become too dominated by lawyers and legal ise or how
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this could have happened. he has all these problems, doesn't show up for work, has misconduct, gun violence. when he leaves the navy he gets to keep that security clearance and gets an honorable discharge. when most people look at the list of things this guy did, there is no way he deserved an honorable discharge. he deserved a dishonorable discharge most people would say. the navy started the proceedings to get him one level below honorable because they gave up because issues got in the way. what about this issue of the fact that common sense says this guy should have had a dishonorable discharge and the laws got in the way? >> eight disciplinary actions that were kind of swept under the rug. sounds a little familiar to me. the political correctness. we saw the same thing with major hassan and the fort hood shooting. he was promoted, passed along there. were signs along the way and no action was taken. that's precise lit kind of case that we want to stop here.
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bledsoe is the other military infiltration case. and yet nothing was done when these flags come up. and they're just sweeping it under the rug. >> so when you say political correctness, what do you mean? the fact there was a mental illness and they didn't want it discriminate on that specifically as colonel kirby has said from the navy? >> i think there's a tendency to not want to deal with the problem. it's real easy to just pass it along, pass the buck along to another military base, or in this instance to a defense contractor. and just to get that problem out of my office and move it on without looking at the bigger picture here. as your report pointed out, there are so many flags that have popped up in this case. if we'd just paid attention to one of them we possibly could have stopped that shooting from happening. >> our congressman michael mccall, thanks very much to you. that's just the bottom line. it could have been stopped. still to come on this live edition of "outfront" tonight. much more of our coverage of the shooting. 12 people lost their lives and we honor them tonight as we talk
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welcome back to a special live edition of "outfront." tonight we remember the victims of yesterday's mass shooting, those who lost their lives were devoted parents, spouses, siblings. they were beloved to those around them. here is the latest on what we're able to tell you ant them tonight. >> kenneth bernard proctor, the father of, two was a civilian utilities foreman at the navy yard.
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neighbors of 73-year-old john roger johnson say he always had a smile on his face. mary francis knight was 51 she was an information technology contractor who taught at a local community college. arthur daniels worked as a handyman at the navy yard for 17 years. gerald l. read, 57, worked in managing security risks at the nfl he served during the korean, iraq and afghanistan wars. frank kohler was a senior systems engineer according to the "new york times." he served his community of lexington park, maryland as a form president of the rotary club. the paper also reports 61-year-old vishnu pandit was a marine engineer and naval architect who dedicated 30 years of his life to the navy. kathy gaarde, 62, had been working in washington for 38 years. richard michael ridgell spent 17 years with the maryland state
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police before resigning in the year 2000 as a corporal. michael arnold designed ships at the navy yard. he was an avid pilot who was working on billing his own plane. sylvia frazier, who was 53, was the second youngest of seven children according to the "washington post." she worked at the naval seas systems command on network security. martin bodrog was a naval academy graduate. after two decades in the military he managed the design of ships for the navy. martin bodrog, you can see that smile on his face. he's remembered as a wonderful husband and the father of three daughters. an active community volunteer who taught sunday school. earlier i had the chance to speak with selma nunes. she worked closely with martin at fairfax young life community. i asked her how his family is
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doing. >> they're in good spirits. be they are lucky enough to have an amazing community both church community -- they've lived in northern virginia for a long time -- neighbors, people are flying in. they are lucky enough to have a lot of people that are surrounding them and just taking care of them. so they're in good spirits. and they know that he's in a better place. and because of that, they're doing a lot better than most people would in this situation. >> selma, do you remember the first time you met martin? what can you tell us about him? we hear he was designing the ships and people get this image. that takes such a great dedication and talent. what do you remember? >> well, i remember the first time he saw me. i was in high school. and i spoke at a young life fundraiser benefit. him and his wife were guests. i shared my story and how much that organization changed my life. and because of my story, him and his wife decided that they wanted to be a part of this organization. i met him three or four years
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after i graduated college when i joined young life in eastern fairfax. and he told me that that story changed him. and he has been part of that organization ever since. and that's the one thing that when i think about marty i think about his dedication. and everything he did was purposeful, meaningful, and was intentional. and because of that he did everything with excellence, whether it was his family, his job, helping with young life, his church. he was just someone that was very intentional in everything that he did. >> which of course is something so many of us wish we had so much more of. what an incredible person. and selma, what did you think when you heard that he had been killed yesterday? obviously you heard the news. and you knew he worked there. there was a part of you who thought there's no way that he would be one of those people. >> i'm still hoping that i receive an e-mail from him and this is not true. i was in shock. and i think most of the people in his community are in shock as
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well. because he was such a great man, truly an excellent man, a faithful man. and to think that he's gone, leaving back three children and a wife, it's sad and shocking. >> and our thanks to selma nunes for sharing her story. >> another victim was moved to the navy yard building only about a month ago. tonight her brother-in-law joins me via phone. theodore, when you think about mary francis knight, getting that promotion just moving there it must have been a time of celebration. and to end like this, i'm so sorry. how has the past day been like for your family? >> i think nightmare would be a short term. as family spokesperson, it's
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been extremely difficult to witness her mother and father go through this. her father is retired special forces. she leaves behind her mother and her father and two young daughters, not even 30 years of age. so it has been quite difficult. >> and obviously with her parents, you never think that will happen to your child, that you'll outlive your child. how did you find out, theodore? how did the family find out what happened to mary? i'll ask you the question i asked selma when you heard the news you thought i need to get in touch with her. i'm sure she's fine. there's no way she'll be part of the 12 and yet obviously she was >> yes. we found out yesterday evening about 5 minutes to 9:00 eastern time. and we have a very kind of quote unquote regimented family where we talk and facetime. it's very -- we're very
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close-knit. and being a newsier if you will, i always have the news on. and i awoke her sister. and i said, i think that's where your sister is working. and she confirmed that. and we waited all day. and then like i stated, at about 8:55 p.m. last night, her sister, my wife, broke down. and i knew of course that there was something terribly wrong. so i spoke with a female fbi agent that was with her youngest daughter, danielle. and the reston area where she had been living. and they told me that they could not really give me any facts due to the current investigation
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under way. so we literally put clothes in a trash bag, and i contacted my mother and father-in-law and said, let me be the representative for the family, due to the fact that i have a background in politics and public relations. and that's where we're at. >> well, theodore, thank you very much for taking the time. and our condolences and thoughts are with you and your wife, her sister and her parents. thank you. well, from teen mom and high school dropout to the d.c. chief of police, in the hours after the navy yard massacre as you were watching this coverage, the face that you saw again and again was that of cathy lanier. she was in charge of the response, in charge of the investigation. the woman people looked to for comfort. but her path to becoming the top cop in washington, d.c. has not been easy or straightforward. its is the story of overcoming incredible odds. and jessica yellin is outfront.
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>> reporter: d.c. police chief cathy lanier, the no nonsense commander running local response to the navy yard shooting. >> within literally two to three minutes, metropolitan police officers were on the scene. >> reporter: in washington, lanier is already well-known for her remarkable story. >> i don't know that i would have made the tough choices and driven myself so hard had i not been in a situation i was in. >> reporter: this is lanier at her swearing in with her mother and son. there she shared her story in moving, personal terms. >> to my son anthony, you're a brilliant child and i was a know it all teenage mom. >> reporter: lanier had a baby, dropped out of high school, married, separated, moved in with her single mom, and lived on food stamps all by the age of 17. she says she learned determination from her mother. >> you had a vision. and your inability to see the negative side kept us all going. so as you watched me over the years, i wonder if ever you
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realized why i was so passionate about my work as a police officer. i wonder if you ever see a bit of yourself in me. >> was she as experienced as a human being has been brought to her work. >> reporter: washington mayor vincent gray was with lanier when she visited d.c. police officer scott williams who was injured in the navy yard shooting. >> it was not the formality of chief and officer williams. it was almost scott and cathy. >> reporter: lanier has managed to balance her personal life and professional life from an early age. she got a ged, two master's degrees, and in her early 20s followed her older brother into the police force. >> once i came out of the police academy and hit the street i just knew that there was nothing else i'd ever want to do. >> reporter: when lanier joined the police force in 1990, the city was known as the nation's murder capitol. no longer. she's credited with driving down crime without driving a wedge between police and the neighborhoods they work in.
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the head of d.c.'s fbi office, joe percochini worked with lanier every day and considers her a close friend. >> taking the time to show that come compassion to everyone is vitally important. she has that ability. it's just natural. >> reporter: she has a soft side. >> i have a little problem here. ramsey said if i made chief i could never cry in front of my people. and if i felt like i was going to cry i better find the damn bathroom. and i don't know where the bathroom is. so i got a problem. >> reporter: that's clearly no problem when she's on the job. for "outfront" jessica yellin, washington. and still to come, other stories that we are following live tonight here at 20 of midnight on the east coast. the latest from the deadly floods in colorado. one of the largest air rescue operations since hurricane katrina under way. you see those military chinooks on the scene. we're going to go there. and the largest salvage operation. almost really ever when you look at a ship. so we looked night. how much is the costa concordia cruise ship sitting there dormant rotting in the water for
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welcome back to our special live edition of "outfront." tonight new developments in the deadly floods in colorado. we have just learned that officials have revised the number of fatalities. the number of fatalities has droppeded. it was eight, it is now six.
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two of the individuals were missing and presumed dead are now just considered to be missing. so unclear how this will end up, but we try to take that good news where we can get it. there are still more than 500 people unaccounted for. though a tragedy in colorado and anna cabrera is outside boulder tonight. >> reporter: just outside boulder, evacuations not over yet. more rising water keeps a community on edge. it's day six of the disaster. residents still digging out. in places where flooding has stopped, reality now sinking in. >> we're going make it so pretty again, okay? >> reporter: the overwhelming task to cleanup begins. >> yeah. this is our house. it was a perfect piece of heaven. >> reporter: that was before a wall of water six feet high gushed through this bedroom window. >> 30, 45 seconds. that's all the time we had to get out of here. we had no warning. >> reporter: it raced right
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through the kitchen's wood cabinets, filled up the bathtub, even seeped into the the clothes dryer. the whole lower level is a gut job. carpets ripped out. chairs, televisions, dressers, now on the front yard. genevieve marquez fears nothing is salvageable. >> you're worried this water is contaminated, too? >> well, yeah. i mean, there's sewage plant water in here. not only that but it's farm fields and cattle fields and horse pastures. >> reporter: at one time, that location was the attraction of this century-old farmhouse. >> where did all this water come from? >> there's a river that runs about maybe an eighth of a mile up there. a dam broke and came through here and broke the river bed. it created its own river. >> like a tsunami almost. >> it was just like a tsunami. >> reporter: a wave of water so strong it pulled a garage right out of the ground, foundation and all. putting all the pieces back together may not even be
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possible. but this family plans to try. >> we're just going to get back into our house as quickly and safely as possible and just rebuild our lives and rebuild our slice of heaven again. >> reporter: anna cabrera, cnn, boulder, colorado. well, the costa concordia has risen. it was the largest salvage operation of a passenger ship ever. 500 people spent 19 hours raising the ship. that's a fraction of the number of people who will actually have to salvage it. but the process required massive metal platforms, pulleys, 1,000 bags of cement, 20,000 tons of group. all toll, the concordia is expected to cost the insurance industry, who's paying for it, of course the industry will try to pass that along to you in the form of higher ticket fees whenever they can, it's costing the insurers $1 billion making it the biggest ever shipping loss for the industry. that brings me to tonight's number, $43 million. that's the estimated value of the costa concordia as scrap. so today we reached out to upstate shredding.
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they used current market prices to calculate the figure for a nearly 1,000-foot-long, 114,000 ton vessel has has enough steel to build a full-size replica of the eiffel tower. what's that forth you take the pieces of steel and corroded metal. $42 million some of you might say is pretty solid. it's still well shy of the 600 million it cost to build the ship and the more than 800 million spent on the salvage. "outfront" next a police officer in north carolina shot an unarmed man ten times. was race involved? [ male announ] this store knows how to handle a saturday crowd. ♪ [ male announcer ] the parking lot helps by letting us know who's coming. the carts keep everyone on the right track. the power tools introduce themselves. all the bits and bulbs keep themselves stocked. and the doors even handle the checkout so we can work on that thing that's stuck in the thing.
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a police officer charged with killing an unarmed man. newly released 911 tapes shedding light on what happened saturday morning when jonathan ferrell, a former florida a & m football player was shot and killed by a charlotte, north carolina police officer. that officer was charged with voluntary manslaughter. a police investigation found that ferrell was unarmed and actually might have been approaching that police officer trying to get help after crashing his car. the story is complicated, but some say race could be involved. and alina muchato investigated outfront. >> 911. hello.
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>> i need help. >> where are you at? >> there's a guy breaking in my front door. >> there's a guy breaking in your front door? >> yes. >> it was that frantic call for help that randall cerrick and two other police officers were responding to when they encountered jonathan ferrell. he had just survived a bad crash and apparently was looking for help himself when he pounded on the front door of this house around 2:30 saturday morning. the woman opened the door and panicked when she realized it was a stranger. >> oh, my god. please. oh, my god. i can't believe i opened the door. what the [ expletive ] is wrong with me? >> you thought it was your husband. >> he works nights. >> when officers arrived, they say ferrell ran toward them. one tried to subdue him unsuccessfully with a taser. police say carrick fired 12 shots, 10 of them hit ferrell killing him. the charlotte man was unarmed. authorities have not yet
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released dashcam video of the shooting, but family attorney chris chestnut says he and the ferrell family have met with police and watched the video. >> you can see. you can tell he's unarmed. he approaches the officers and immediately two laser beams in the center of his chest. he gets excited. wait wait wait stop. then he's coming forward saying stop. and he goes off the camera. you just hear shots. 1, 2, 3, 4, pause, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, pause. 1, 2. >> but police say officer carrick told investigators right after the shooting quote the suspect assaulted him by unknown means and he had quote apparent minor injuries but refused treatment. still, police called the shooting excessive and charged the 27-year-old officer with voluntary manslaughter, a felony less than 20 hours later. >> we're confident that the resolution of this case it will be found that officer carrick's actions were justified on the night in question.
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>> ferrell's more meanwhile says a part of her heart is gone, but she still foregives carrick. >> i definitely want justice. i pray for him each and every day. but i do want justice. because i don't want this to happen to anyone. >> carrick is free on bond. no trial date has been set. for"out front" alena muchata, charlotte, north carolina. >> obviously we'll keep following that story as it develops. thanks for watching our live program tonight. piers morgan is after this break. can save by sharing. like carpools... polly wants to know if we can pick her up. yeah, we can make room. yeah. [ male announcer ] ...office space. yes, we're loving this communal seating. it's great. [ male announcer ] the best thing to share? a data plan. at&t mobile share for business. one bucket of data for everyone on the plan, unlimited talk and text on smart phones. now, everyone's in the spirit of sharing. hey, can i borrow your boat this weekend? no. [ male announcer ] share more. save more. at&t mobile share for business. ♪
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