happening now in the newsroom -- >> we can't let the government shut down. >> we've seen the movie before. >> washington at war. house republicans demanding obama care be defunded. >> we're going to continue to do everything we can to repeal the president's failed health care law. >> a threat intensifying and america getting tired of the same thing happening again. also, breaking overnight, a huge explosion in oklahoma. a chemical plant bigger than a

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it's as simple as that. >> we can't let the government shut down. we can't be kamikazes and we can't be general custer. >> there is backlash from americans who feel the bite of a shutdown. many government offices would be closed along with museums and parks. many federal projects would be delayed, meaning contractors and subs would be out of work. that's along with the many federal workers who would be furloughed. mail, however, would still be delivered. so, see, there's a bright note in there, right? erin mcpike is in washington this morning as the gop-controlled house gets ready to vote as early as tomorrow. good morning, erin. >> reporter: good morning, carol. well, the problem for house republicans is if they can pass this bill tomorrow, that would fund the government but defund health care, republicans say they know that kind of legislation would not pass the democratic-controlled senate and of course the president wouldn't sign it because he would never sign a law that would overturn his signature achievement, which

is health care reform. now, here's the problem that happens if the republicans are able to pass this bill. the senate could then pass a bill that both funds the government and health care and then they would send that bill back to the house. now, if that bill fails, that would shut down the government and that would be, of course, deeply unpopular with the american people. and senior republicans are saying that is an ill conceived strategy. this summer oklahoma senator tom coburn made some remarks about that. here's what he had to say. >> the only effective way to truly stop obama care, and i think we ought to do it, to stop it, would be totally reverse it. we don't have the votes to do that. >> reporter: and, carol, just this morning, karl rove wrote an op-ed for the "wall street journal" and said much the same thing. he said any strategy to repeal, delay or replace the law must

have a credible chance of succeeding or affecting broad public opinion positively. the defunding strategy doesn't. going down that road would strengthen the president while alienating independents. it is an ill-conceived tactic and republicans should reject it. there's one more thing i want to tell you about this. last week i was talking to some senior house republican leadership aides and they said they didn't want to hold this vote pause they think they're being held captive by the farther right, more conservative groups who say they are just looking for a list of house republican members that they can then mount primary challenges against, so they didn't want to hold this vote just last week and now they are being moved further to the right, carol. >> my head is about to explode. so it seems like the republican party is in disarray. so why didn't house speaker john boehner, because he's not totally for this strategy, yet he came out and said we're going to do this strategy and see what happens. but why didn't he take a stand? >> reporter: well, carol, that's

the big question now. but i will tell you that just last week there were some tea party rallies on capitol hill, and some of these tea party members have said speaker boehner, if you don't move forward with this, we want to see you go. so he is also being held captive by the further right, carol. >> we're going to talk a lot about this, this morning. erin mcpike, thanks so much, reporting live from washington. as the rising floodwaters in colorado recede, a new worry is growing across the state as to what might be getting into the groundwater. fuel, heavy metals and fluids used in fracking, a process that cracks the ground for drilling, might be mixing with the floodwaters and possibly seeping into the water supply. more than 1800 oil and gas wells had to be turned off and right now the colorado oil and gas association says there are no reports of leaking oil or gas wells, but a leak is not the issue, it's the chemicals and the toxic fluids combining with the water that's the issue. that water could end up in lakes or rivers used for drinking.

scientists say the state will have to be vigilant about testing and fixing any problems. and after a week of rescues from those floodwaters, the focus in colorado also turns toward recovery. evacuations are slowing down in places like boulder and larimer countys, two of the hardest-hit areas in last week's flooding. in boulder county there are just a handful of people still unaccounted for and the rebuilding costs could be overwhelming. george howell is live in boulder again this morning. good morning, george. >> reporter: carol, good morning. so the latest estimate that we've heard, some $2 billion. it will take up to $2 billion to start repairing all the damage that we've seen. and when you look at some of the video that people have sent us of the raging waters that we saw just seven or eight days ago, you get a sense of exactly why. we're talking about waters that in many cases washed roads away, washed homes away. a big deal, a big mess that people will have to deal with and clean up from. it could take a long time before things are back to normal here.

i want to show you where we are now. you can see back here this river and you can see that barn that shouldn't be there. the river shouldn't be there either. in fact all of this changed within a matter of hours, i would say. jim fitzgerald is here and, jim, this is your property. you were telling me it used to be grass out there. so what do you do? how do you start over? >> used to be a pond right here and right below the pond was a tennis court. and all of the rest of it was grass and mowed and decorative. in a matter of minutes really on thursday night this just dumped probably 500 truckloads of debris, rock and filled the pond and blew out the tennis court, another shed and filled my basement with four feet of mud. it's been -- it's been a nightmare, but we will rebuild. we're safe. some of my neighbors are much worse than i am.

it will take us months and months to kind of start to put it back into order. you just pick up and keep on going. we're blessed that everybody in this area is safe and i thank the lord for that. >> jim, i want to talk about these barriers up here. what are you going to do with those? >> what's happening right now is the creek is still at a flood stage and it's been washing out the embankment right here, starting to wash out underneath the road as well as wash out toward my leech field, which is my septic system. if it gets into that septic system, it will destroy that and then it will start eroding down toward the foundation of my building. so we're going to use that to push the water a little bit away from here. it has dropped -- it's dropped probably at its peak ten feet. >> thank you, sir. thank you very much. you get a sense of what people are dealing with, carol. right now we know, and this is good news, the number of unaccounted for at 201.

you can hear the helicopter over my head right now, the search and rescue continues today. >> all right, george howell and our thanks to mr. fitzgerald as well. just about a half hour ago, we learned of the number of americans filing new unemployment claims rose last week, but not as much as experts had predicted. new labor department data shows initial claims for jobless benefits grew to a seasonally adjusted 309,000. in the meantime, investors are still giddy. stock futures up again this morning after the dow and had s&p closed at record highs on the news the fed will keep pumping money into the economy. allison is live with more. >> reporter: the bulls will keep on running this morning after the stuns record highs not just on the dow but the s&p 500 as well. it's happening because the fed is not stopping the party just yet, pouring billions of dollars into the financial system. but this trader also telling me, wait, let's understand why this

is happening, why the fed kept the status quo. he said it's because the economy isn't all sunshine and roses at this point. you look at unemployment. the unemployment rate is still 7.3%. it's high. growth in this country is still very weak. it's at 2.5%. you really want to see it around 3%, 3.5% to be considered normal. at this point the fed is acting as a safety net. it's not leaving the economy alone until it's on stronger footing. other stories we're following this morning at ten minutes past the hour, iran's president says his country will never develop nuclear weapons. he also told nbc news he's open to resolving iran's controversial nuclear program through diplomacy. he said his government has complete authority to make a deal and called a recent exchange with president obama on the matter positive and constructive. flooding and mud slides spawned by tropical weather along both mexico's coasts have killed at least 80 people and left some 40,000 tourists

stranded. hurricanes ingrid and manuel have affected more than a million people and now a third tropical system is developing off mexico's yucatan peninsula. a fire engulfs a chemical plant northwest of oklahoma city and forces the evacuation of nearby homes. the fire at the danlin industries plant is now out. the cause is still under investigation. amazingly no injuries are reported. the company supplies specialty chemicals to the oil and gas industry. a bit of better news out of washington today. the u.s. navy yard is now open for business. as you know, it's been closed since aaron alexis shot and killed 12 people in building number 197. although that's better news, there is still so many unanswered questions. we now know aaron alexis' mental health was crumbling, his paranoia making his delusional and even more dangerous. yet three days after his murderous rampage, investigators still can't say what turned him into a killer. even his own mother is left with questions.

cnn's pamela brown is in washington with more for you. good morning, pamela. >> reporter: good morning to you, carol. that's right. you know, as this investigation continues, still no word on a motive. in fact officials are questioning whether we'll ever have a clear-cut answer of what caused aaron alexis to go on that deadly shooting rampage. as investigators sift through the evidence in the navy yard killings, navy officials say damage inside building 197 is so extensive, it may take weeks to repair and reopen it. one official saying there is blood everywhere. there is damage everywhere. the mother of the gunman apologizing wednesday to the families of the victims. >> i don't know why he did what he did, and i'll never be able to ask him why. aaron is now in a place where he can no longer do harm to anyone, and for that i am glad. to the families of the victims, i am so, so very sorry that this

has happened. my heart is broken. >> reporter: investigators still don't know why. law enforcement sources say nothing points to a specific motive for the rampage. even after the seizure of aaron alexis' computer and other possessions and interviews with the social contacts for clues. yet odd dough taietails are eme. alexis made unexplained etchings into the shotgun he used in the attack. the etchings read "better off this way" and "my elf weapon." investigators don't know what the sayings are supposed to mean, so questions remain about whether the rampage could have been prevented. navy officials never passed on police reports about alexis' erratic behavior claiming he was hearing voices. >> where there are gaps, we will close them. where there are inadequacies, we will address them. and where there are failures, we will correct them.

we owe the victims, their families and all our people nothing less. >> reporter: new details have emerged suggesting authorities might have been able to contain the gunman more quickly. a government official tells cnn when the first radio call came in about a shooting at the navy yard, highly trained tactical capitol police officers attempting to help stop the rampage were told by a watch commander to stand down. the capitol police chief has ordered an independent fact review of their response and the critical first moments after the shooting was reported. we are still awaiting the autopsy results from the medical examiner's office. meantime this sunday president obama is expected to attend a memorial service for the victims from monday's tragedy. carol. >> pamela brown reporting live from washington, d.c., thank you. still to come in the newsroom, it's mccain versus putin. mccain hurling insults and

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opponents. they rig your elections. they control your media. they harass, threaten and banish organizations that defend your right to self governance. how has he strengthened russia's international stature by alying russian with some of the tyrannies and supporting a syrian regime that is murdering tens of thousands of its own people to romaine in power. he is not enhancing russia's global reputation, he is destroying it, end quote. cnn's phil black live in moscow with more on this. good morning, phil. >> reporter: hello, carol. yes, well, the newspaper is famous really around the world. it means truth. but it is famous going back to soviet times because the newspaper then was the mouthpiece of the communist party during the soviet union. today it is a little bit different. it is a tabloid news website that isn't really read by many people. it is certainly not "the new york times" of russia so in that

case it is not an equivalent blow as vladimir putin's letter to the american people was as such. i guess what john mccain is really going for here is the symbolism, both what it means and its place in history. you mentioned that vladimir putin is speaking right now. we will be listening to see if he gives any sort of reaction to mccain's criticisms but he may not. the event that he's speaking at now is a big picture event talking about the future of russia, its place in the world and that sort of thing. he may be unwilling to lower the tone. but it's certainly not the first time these two men have exchanged barbs. >> so if not many people read that in russia, why would he comment? >> reporter: well, i think it's going back to that historic tide. it is a title that is famous around the world and he joked at the time that vladimir putin wrote his piece that he would perhaps do that in return. it appears that maybe he hasn't fully researched just what the status of this particular media site or news publication is right now, but he's enclosure

l -- clearly trying to reach the russian people in the same way vladimir putin was trying to reach the american people when he wrote in "the new york times." there's a general rule here that russians don't like being told what to do by nonrussians and this is something that politicians play up to a bit and usually use that rule to dismiss outside criticism. they usually dismiss it as interfering, meddling, arrogance and that's the way they have treated john mccain in the past. he is a frequent critic of russia. and in the past i can remember an occasion with vladimir putin when he was asked about criticisms from john mccain and he replied, essentially saying that mccain is crazy because of his time as a prisoner of war during the vietnam. so the relations between these two men, the feelings, they go back a fair way and they're not likely to change too much as a result of john mccain's article here. >> it's funny. i i think americans feel pretty much the same way about vladimir

putin. john mccain also writes for the russian people, i do believe in you. i believe in your capacity for self government and your desire for justice and opportunity. i believe in the greatness of the russian people. when i criticize your government, it is not because i'm anti-russian, it's because i believe you deserve a government that believes in you and answers to you. but in light of what you just said, phil, this probably won't resonate with russians living in russia. they resonate with russians living here in the united states, right? >> reporter: yeah. i mean i'm sure that some people here will sympathize and absolutely agree with much of mccain's argument. there is a growing opposition movement to putin's rule in this country. but for all the growth that it has seen in recent years, it is still a very distinct minority. something that only exists in the bigger cities here in moscow and maybe st. petersburg. across this vast country people tend to see the world the vladimir putin way and they don't like being told what to do, particularly by americans.

they're still very much a cold war hangover there, where a lot of russians still view america as the great adversary to russia, as an international force that is in some way dedicated to weakening or harming russia. again, these are all things that politicians here tend to play with quite successfully, carol. >> phil black reporting live from moscow this morning. thanks. still to come in the newsroom, battles over obama care setting the stage for a possible government shutdown, but not everyone thinks bringing the government to a screeching halt is a good idea. we'll talk to one of those lawmakers next.

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good morning. i'm carol costello. thanks for joining me this morning. congress is once again engaged in a battle over obama care with money to keep the government up and running potentially at risk. that's right, the threat of a shutdown is once again rearing its ugly head. here's how one tennessee lawmaker summed up his opposition to obama care. >> i have never understood it the day i got here is why in the world health care is a republican or democrat issue. it is a people issue. i've never treated a republican or democrat cancer in my life. i've never seen a republican or democrat heart attack in my life. they're just people problems. that was a mistake that was made from day one with this bill right here. that's why the american people don't approve of it and half the population didn't get a chance or half the congress didn't get a chance to have any input whatsoever in this bill.

>> congressman john fleming of louisiana joins me live now. welcome. >> thank you, carol. >> thank you for being with me this morning, i appreciate it. i know you wanted to defund obama care but you say tying it to the federal budget and possibly a government shutdown isn't the best strategy for republicans so you seem to be at odds with the more conservative end of your party and a lot of pundits say because you're not alone in that, the republican party seems to be in disarray. how would you characterize it? >> carol, i would say that the republican party is, i think, unifying on this issue. it's the white house that's in disarray over the implementation of obama care. and there are a couple of good strategies and we're going to apply both of them first to give the american people the opportunity to rise up and support a full defunding of obama care prior to implementation. >> but, sir, the house has done

that 41 times or something like that already. >> well, no, the house has voted to repeal in one way or another 41 times. to actually defund and connect that with must pass legislation, to my knowledge we've never done that. this is going to be the first opportunity, which is going to be, of course, this friday where we attach it to a continuing resolution to continue operations of government. >> right, i understand that. but are you for that strategy or against it? >> i am for the strategy. however, what i have discussed with leadership and many others, and i think that we're coalescing around this, is that should that strategy not come to fruition, that there's another one that may work even better and that is to delay the implementation of obama care for a year. president obama has delayed big chunks of it already. it's not ready for implementation. and attach that to the debt

ceiling where there is not an issue about shutting government down. >> so some people might say you're just playing games with the economy right at the moment. why not separate the issues? why not work to repeal obama care another way, because you know that these things probably won't pass the democratically-controlled senate and the president would veto it even if it did. >> no, i think the president secretly would love to delay the implementation of obama care. look, this should be -- >> well, if that's true, then why tie it to the budget at all. why not sit down and negotiate with the president and democrats? >> that's what happens with must-pass legislation. we sit down and we negotiate these things. and again, remember that every new job today created, 77% of those jobs are part-time jobs as a result of obama care. we're having announcements by u.p.s., delta airlines, walgreens, who are changing insurance in one way or another

as a result of obama care in a negative way as a result of obama care. people who own businesses are rapidly converting many of their employees to part-time work instead of full-time, downsizing their businesses. this law should be named the unemployment and unaffordable act because that is the impact it's having on our economy. >> there are a lot of negatives but there are also positives connected with obama care. i'm just going to run these statistics by you. so the majority of americans don't approve of boobama care, that's true. but 70% of americans do not understand what obama care is, so they're for or against something they really don't understand. whose fault is that? >> well, the supporters of this have had three and a half years to explain it. and the problem is, it is so complex that it can't be explained. that's the difficulty with the implementation. but they're about to get a lesson -- >> but isn't it part of your job

too, congressman, to make your constituents understand the bad and the good associated with this bill? >> i spend a part of every day educating people about obama care, particularly on the digital media. >> do you say anything positive about it? i'm just curious. >> well, if something comes out positive about it, i'll be happy to relay that to you. >> are you for the health care exchanges, for example? >> october 1st, america is going to learn the steep rise in premiums that are going to happen. in my state alone, some people are going to get as much as a 400% increase in their premiums. on average probably about 80%. so i'm letting people know about this. if you think that's good, carol, tell me what's good about that. >> i agree with you there's a lot of negatives. >> a lot of negative stuff, yes. >> but in other states what you just said is not true. it just depends on which state you live in, right? >> no. virtually all states will see a net increase.

there are a few states that already have similar rules and they may see declines in certain areas, but those are spotty and anecdotal. that's not really going to be the case generally. and so, you know, the thing about this is the way you expand health care to more people is first make it more affordable. make the system more efficient. and this law fails to do this. >> but everybody agrees with you, but we went through an enormous battle to get this health care law passed, right? and right now -- i know you want to repeal it, but what goes into its place? how do you solve the problems if it goes away. >> not one single republican voted for this law. >> i get it. trust me, i get it. i'm just asking you, congressman -- i'm asking you -- >> a point in time in history when democrats got full control of washington and they got their dream deal but america is not on board. two to one americans hate obama care, this whole concept of government health care.

>> but 70% of them don't understand it. >> well, they have had every opportunity. i mean the people who support it have had every opportunity to explain it to them. it's the complexity that makes it impossible to understand. >> i cannot disagree with you there, sir. congressman john fleming, i have to go, i'm so sorry, but it's been a great debate. thank you so much, congressman. >> all right. still to come in the newsroom, a kidnapped teenager reunited with her parents. now police may have uncovered a connection between them and the men accused of kidnapping this young girl. announcer: where can an investor be a name and not a number? scottrade. ron: i'm never alone with scottrade. i can always call or stop by my local office.

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a kidnapped georgia teenager is back at home this morning. ayvani perez was rescued one day after being taken from her home by armed men. now we're learning of a connection between perez's mother and one of the men that's been placed under arrest. martin savidge is here with more. >> of course the good news is this young girl is safe and sound and that's thanks in large part to the 150 state and local law enforcement. that should not go understated. but then there is the issue and this has always been the debate, why did it happen. what terrified that neighborhood was the report that it was random, that they broke into this home and it could have been anybody's home. now we're starting to find out maybe it wasn't so random and that is as a result of connections that are starting to be made. one of those connections is that the mother of this 14-year-old was arrested in a drug raid last

year. she was not charged or the charges against her were dropped. but another person arrested in that same raid, one of those now in custody in connection with a kidnapping case. so there is the link. exactly what that link is, we don't know. and the other thing you should know, two other people on the loose. this is the clayton county police chief talking about the good and the problems still out there. >> she's been reunified with her family. we currently have two suspects in custody. we're looking at some other suspects and i'll let the fbi talk about that later. she was recovered at a location in conyers, georgia. the investigation is still active and still -- we're still receiving phone calls as we speak. >> one of the things that was sort of dropped at the very end was that the images that we've seen of two men that broke into that home, they're not in custody yet. which then makes you go, all right, they're armed, they're dangerous, they're still out there, and that there is more

than just two people. this seems to be a conspiracy of sorts. was it premeditated? if so, what does it all really mean? and that's what investigators are focusing on today. >> so how exactly was this girl found? was she in the custody of those two men? was she wandering the street? >> those are the kind of details we've asked about but that the federal government and both the local law enforcement are holding back. we don't know, other than as you heard she was found in conyers. that's about 25 miles away from where she was taken. exactly in whose custody she was, what the conditions were and where she had been during the time of her kidnapping we don't know yet. >> martin savidge, thanks as always. >> you're welcome. here's what's all new in the next hour of "newsroom." miss tv ratings gold here in the united states. >> me honey boo boo child. >> little girls made up to look like grown-up beauty queens going head to head on the runway. but one country wants to outlaw child beauty pageants. critics say too much skin at too

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she hopes her mother can finally find the answers that have eluded their family for four decades. >> it has been difficult not knowing what did happen to her father. she never had that closure or the peace of mind or comfort. always that uncertainty. and why did it happen. what did happen. why can't we find what happened. and i'm hoping that this will bring closure. >> reporter: right now, investigators have not ruled out foul play but investigators suspect that both of these cases could very well have been accidents. that the cars could have rolled into the lake, trapping the victims inside, and they drowned. carol, back to you. >> thanks, ed lavandera. still to come, raiszors band in boston. now for one night, fans can be just like their heroes. ♪

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controversial and flying off the shelves. the new "grand theft auto" is apparently the hottest one yet. the second hour of "newsroom" starts now. good morning, i'm carol catello. on capitol hill, the clock is ticking. with only enough money to keep the government running another 11 days, republican leaders say they will approve new funding, only if obama care is defunded. moments ago, the senate majority lead leader, the democrat, harry reid, spoke on the senate floor. >> watching the republican party self-destruct, and that's not coming from me, that's what pundits are saying all over the country, it would be good political theater to watch them self-destruct and that's what they're doing, if there were not so much at stake. the economic consequences of a government shutdown are deadly serious. and, mr. president, today, when i had my news briefing, the

republicans are openly fighting against each other now. senate republicans are saying, well, we don't have enough votes to get rid of obama care but let's take it back to the house and let them hang tough. house republicans are saying, why isn't the senate republicans doing it themselves? >> the president calls it extortion. even some fellow republicans disagree on the high-stakes political gamble in place because the fear of backlash from americans who will feel the bite of a shutdown looms because many government offices would be closed along with museums and parks. many federal projects will be delayed. meaning contractors and sub contractors would be out of work. and that's along with the many federal workers who would also be furloughed. mail, however, would still be delivered. so there's your little ray of sunshine. cnn senior white house correspondent jim acosta is in washington with more. good morning, jim. >> reporter: good morning, carol. not many rays of sunshine here in washington. this is sort of like one of

those movies you've seen time and again, so you know all of lines. this is what's happening here in washington with this prospect of a government shutdown. because as we've heard many times before, here they go again. it's 11 days to a possible government shutdown. and this latest budget battle pitting republicans in congress against president obama is becoming the stomach turning sequel to the sequel. >> what i will not do is to create a habit, a pattern, whereby the full faith and credit of the united states ends up being a bargaining chip to set policy. >> reporter: this time, the threat is all too real. not only does the government run out of money on october 1st, the nation is set to hit the dead ceiling, debt ceiling and go into default. setting up a washington dysfunction double whammy, the likes of which americans have never seen before. >> sort of a gridlock nato? >> if congress fails to act,

yes, it's possible. i'm not sure about the nato part of it. >> reporter: for now, republicans in congress say they will only vote on a spending bill that defunds obama care. >> we're going to continue to do everything we can to repeal the president's failed health care law. >> reporter: but that's not expected to go anywhere in the democratic controlled senate. ramping up the likelihood of a shutdown at the end of the month. we've been here before. a government shutdown has loomed at least four types since 2011. each time a deal was struck to avert disaster. some republicans say this is one rerun they don't want to watch. >> we can't let the government shut down. we can't be cam kazys and we can't be general custard. >> reporter: we're going to hear the president hit on the issue of a government shutdown in about an hour from now when he meets with his counsel here at the white house. you'll see some of those comments later on cnn. carol, at the same time, the white house is watching much of this battle from the sidelines as republicans are attacking one another.

you heard harry reid talking about that just a few moments ago. that is because house republicans are furious with texas republican senator ted cruz who said yesterday that the senate, at least on the republican side, they don't have the votes to defund obama care. that prompted a lot of house republicans to go off on twitter. one house republican, sean duffy of wisconsin, accused cruz of waving the white flag of s surrend surrender. also this morning, a return to work, but gar frfar from a r to normal. the military complex reopened for business, three days after that murderous rampage, and investigators are still searching for clues as to what turned aaron alexis into a killer. they know his mental health was crumbling. his paranoia making him delusional. even his own mother is left with many questions. cnn justice reporter evan perez is working his law enforcement

sources. so what are they telling you about these etchings found on the gun alexis used? >> reporter: good morning, carol. yes, this is among the many clues that the law enforcement investigators are looking at. they're basically still trying to figure out, there's so many unanswered questions that they have. there are things, so many puzzling things that they've found. one of the things they found was on the shotgun that he used on monday. he had etched the couple of phrases. one said better off this way and the other one said my elf weapon. no one knows what those -- especially the "elf weapon" refers to. it could be something video game related. it could be some navy phrase. it's one of the puzzles that they have today. they also found in searching his laptop, they found that he had some kind of online alias in the name of mohammed salem and

apparently they're trying to figure out whether or not this means anything. they don't think he was a jihadi or had any interest in any kind of religion views. he dabbled in bhuddism. so, again, this is among the many puzzlers that they're still trying to figure out today. >> yes, because we all thought he didn't really have an online presence. >> reporter: he didn't have much of a social media presence. he was apparently a big video game player. but apparently not much of a social media user. and this online presence, i should say, there's no content. there's no website that essentially has any kind of writings or anything like that. it's one of those things that they're, you know, just unexplained at this time. >> so many questions remain. adam perez, thank you so much. checking our other top stories this morning at 8 minutes past. receding floodwaters in colorado

give way to rising concerns about what might get into the ground water. fuel, heavy metals and fluids used in fracing, a process that cracks the ground for drilling, might be mixing with the floodwaters and possibly be seeping into the water supply. more than 1,800 oil and gas wells had to be turned off. right now, the colorado oil and gas association says there's no reports of leaking wells but a leak isn't really the issue, it's the chemicals and toxic fluids that might combine with the floodwater. and that water could end up in lakes or rivers used for drnking. scientists say the state will have to be vigilant about testing and fixing any problems. police in georgia are looking for at least two more possible suspects in the abduction this week of a 14-year-old girl. two other men have been arrested. avani perez is now back with her family after she was kidnapped during a home invasion. a winning powerball lottery ticket was sold at a store in lexington, south carolina, near columbia, actually at that store right there.

no one has come forward yet with the ticket. in south carolina, winners can remain anonymous. the jackpot was $400 million but after taxes it will be closer to $223 million. the winning numbers, 7, 10, 22, 32, 35. the powerball number, 19. it was one of the most anticipated video games of the year. grand theft auto 5 has left its competition in the dust. i mean left in the dust. generating more than $800 million on the day it hit store shelves. that would be a new record for first-day sales. alison kosik is at the new york stock exchange to tell us more. >> crowds lined up to buy this game. which rewards stealing and killing in the virtual world. for take two interactive, the company who makes it, the cult following continues to pay off for them. the company made $800 million in sales of the game in just one

day, the first day of sales. amazing. we're hearing it could be a one-day sales record. you look at its rival, activision. it makes "call of duty." its latest version, it sold only $500 million on the first day. grand theft auto does do better partly because it doesn't release new versions as much. when grand theft auto first came out, the fourth one, it came out five years ago. so these gamers were really chomping at the bit for a new one to play. >> so let's talk about traditional video games. they're in stiff competition with online games and mobile apps. what does the success of grand theft auto 5 mean for traditional gaming? >> it shows that traditional gaming, it's still alive. it's thriving. even after grand theft auto has been around, what, for more than 15 years now. so the fact that it's breaking records after all this time, it really is incredible. no surprise here, shareholders are really happy. you look at shares of take two. they're up more than 55% this

year. they're up another 2% today. however, they also got their name out there because of some controversy. the game has players compete, complete these heists. they have to traffic guns, they kill police and civilians. the games involve drugs. all this stuff that makes life worth living. carol. >> oh, well, just so they stay encased within that game and your living room or wherever. >> i hear you. >> alison kosik, thanks. strong-arm politics on capitol hill as the government inches towards a shutdown. we'll take a closer look at the gamble and the potential payoff next. [ male announcer ] campbell's angus beef & dumplings. hearty cheeseburger. creamy thai style chicken with rice. mexican-style chicken tortilla. if you think campbell's 26 new soups sound good, imagine how they taste. m'm! m'm! good!

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broken or not, the clock is ticking towards september 30 when federal funding runs out and the government teeters on a shutdown. today that threat is more real as republican leaped ders say t will approve new funding only if obama care is defunded. the president is calling it an extortion. this e-mail saying, we did it. after traveling the country, rallying support to kill obama care, kremer told reporters, this is a huge victory for the tea party. while we won this battle, the war is not over. amy kremer joins us now, along with jason johnson, an hln contributor, and hyram kalla, political science professor. welcome to you both. >> it is a victory. we didn't even think that leadership in the house would bring it to the floor for a vote

and they're bringing it to the floor i believe tomorrow. so it's a huge victory for us. it shows that when we work hard, we can accomplish something and the tea party movement is still here. >> do you think it will pass in the house and go on to the senate and pass and hit the president's desk? >> i think it will pass in the house. they're going to vote tomorrow. and hopefully it passes in the senate. we have a lot of work to do in the senate and that's what we're going to be focused on other the next ten days. >> but why tie obama care to the federal budget? we still live in a fragile economy, right? why take a chance? why not fight obama care another way? >> one of the reasons the economy's doing so bad is because of obama care. the correct question is why would we inplimt and fund a program passed into law three year ago and is still not ready for prime time? even the president has admitted that because parts of it he's delayed. he's delayed for big business. why not delay for middle class average americans? why can we not defund this,

delay it for a year, and let's have that obama care debate that we never got to have because it was shoved down our throats? it passed with not one republican vote. >> it still passed. went to the supreme court. >> people don't want it. >> jason, i really, in fact, polls show americans don't understand what obama care is. 70% know very little about this law. >> most think it's a bad idea. we've been seeing it in oregon, in washington, and in my home state of ohio, premiums have been going down. i think this idea we need to scuttle the entire american government just for this particular bill, it's not a good idea. it won't pass through the senate. really, this is a lot of political posturing. this is just like all the votes to defund it before. it's not going to work. >> even ted cruz came out and tweeted. even he says this doesn't have a chance. so why do it? >> i mean, i haven't seen ted's tweet. two weeks ago, everybody said it

didn't have a chance of getting through the house and now we're bringing it to a vote. we're going to have to fight that battle. i think there are senators that need to be put on the spot and see where they are. this is the thing. is that democrats are coming out against this. max baucus said it's a train wreck. when you have union leaders who helped promote this for the president, now they want out of it. i mean, the president and harry reid need to listen to the american people and not worry about scoring a political victory. because this is what it is to them. no one's talking about the president. it's not the republicans that want to shut down the government. we're going to totally fund the government. it's the democrats that are talking about shutting down the government, if the -- >> you tied obama care to a bill that would shut down the government if basketbaobama car defunded. >> the president has said if. sequester is not rolled back, he's going to shut down the government. why is no one talking about that? >> this doesn't make any sense. first, you look at the republican leadership in the

house, the vast majority, they weren't even around, they weren't in office in the last government shutdown. that is going to kill the republican party. ted cruz was graduating from lawsuit when the last government shutdown happened. it's like people don't have institutional memory. boehner was the only one in leadership but cantor and everyone else wasn't. this is going to be blame on the republican party. this is a battle that can be fought next year. the continuing resolution only goes to september 15th anyway. we're right back in this argument. >> this totally defunds it permanently. the continuing resolution only funds the government. the government spending until december 15th. >> in which case we're going to be back in the same fight. whether we're talking about obama care or not, who wants to have this argument in front of christmas? i think this is a bad idea overall. after october 1st when people have access to obama care, who knows, they may like it. >> they're not going to have access until january. >> the vast majority of americans are going to start signing up october 1st. i was a skeptic. i was a skeptic like you.

we've seen in several different states the premiums are going down. the premiums at my college are going down. it's not such a bad idea. >> what you said about people not supporting it, especially union leaders, is true. everybody who does not have health insurance now who cannot afford health insurance now, they actually are interested in obama care and how it might help them. and we're talking about millions, tens of millions of people. >> and i want to make two points. number one, that the republicans came out yesterday with a plan to replace this out of the republican study committee. and there are free market solutions that will work so people can have access to health care. second thing i want to say in 1966, when medicare was implemented, the cost was $3 billion. the projection of cost in 1990 was to be $12 billion. the actual cost in 1990 was $107 billion. it's going to be the same thing with this. we can't afford this. government is not the answer. government's the problem. we need to get out of the way and pass free market solutions that will work.

insurance across state lines. getting rid of pre-existing conditions. that sort of thing. >> we've already debated all of these issues. >> it's amazing how they came up with these brilliant ideas at the last minute now that this is about to become policy. >> the republicans brought up those ideas during the last debate and they were tossed aside by the democrats. let's be honest about this. >> they were tossed aside because president obama wants this, and yes, it's political points. we can't be disingenuous here and think this is a disaster. there are ways this bill can be fixed. once it's implemented and we see what happens. we're talking about projections down the road. we still have sequestration. we don't know if that's going to work. the idea of saying we know this is going to be doom and gloom doesn't make any sense. >> it doesn't make any sense when they have to sell it to the american people and they're spending hundreds of millions of dollars -- the democrats have done a terrible idea of helping people understand. bill clinton will be on letterman on monday night.

i'm sure that's what he'll be talking about. what exactly this means. >> most of us are skitill skeptic skeptic skeptical. costs have been going down in some states. it may end up working out. >> all right, i got to end this but we could go on and on. amy kremer, jason johnson, thank you. this is for you. ♪ [ male announcer ] bob's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today his doctor has him on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. if you've had a heart attack, be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. ugh! actually progresso's soup has pretty bold flavor. i love bold flavors! i'd love it if you'd open the chute! [ male announcer ] progresso. surprisingly bold flavor for a heart healthy soup.

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alison kosik's at the new york stock exchange. really? >> yes, i kind of laugh at this, because what better way to fan the flames when it comes to ceo pay debates that go on, make their salaries public. the sec agreed to draft this new rule. basically forcing these publicly traded companies to disclose what its ceos get paid in comparison to how much their other workers make. the afl-cio, according to then, they say the average ceo makes $12 million. the average worker, $35,000. the highest paid ceos are larry ellison, oracle's ceo. he makes $36 million. elon musk, for tesla, he makes $78 million. no surprise, big business lobbied against this rule. companies already, by the way, have to disclose pay of its top five executives. this would take it to a whole new level. >> interesting. alison kosik, live at the new

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scam taxpayers out of millions of dollars. joining me now to talk about the investigation is u.s. attorney rod rosenstein. good morning, sir. >> good morning, carol, how are you? >> i'm pretty good. tell us what was happening in the city of baltimore. >> these ten defendants were charged following an investigation by the u.s. department of agriculture, along with support by the fbi. in the course of that investigation, evidence was uncovered that led to these charges, that ten defendants associated with eight retail stores in baltimore, were engaged in what we call food stamp trafficking. what that means is the defendants allegedly traded food stamp credits for cash instead of food. >> how wide spread is this problem? >> the usda estimates that the rate of fraud associated with the food stamp program is relatively low. their latest estimate is 1.3%. now, as fraud goes, that's a relatively low rate. in terms of absolute numbers, you're still talking about close to $1 billion in fraud. it's become a very high priority

for the department of justice and agriculture department to root out that fraud. >> i notice this went on in baltimore and detroit. is this a nationwide effort? >> the usda i know is making efforts nationwide. they're limited by the enforcement resources they have available. i believe they have just over 100 agents nationwide. the goal is is the enforcement actions we take to get the maximum impact, to prosecute significant offenders and make sure we send a broader message to deter other people from violating the law. >> rod rosenstein, thank you so much for joining us this morning. we want to turn to republican congressman andy harris from maryland to talk about the politics of food stamps and what exactly we should do. so tell us about this bill to change who is eligible for food stomps. >> it takes the program, which has doubled in the past three years, and says what we want to do is take out waste, fraud and abuse, and we want to decrease

the program by 5%. as you've just heard, waste, fraud and abuse occurs in the program. 10.5% of the stores that participate in food stamps are engaged in trafficking. so we think if we eliminate the waste, fraud and abuse, we'll have more money to get to the people who need it. >> the federal government seems to already be doing this. you heard from the u.s. attorney from baltimore talking about that. you do think there is a need, a real need out there, to be on food stamps for many people. >> absolutely. again, we want to get food stamps into the hands of those people who deserve it. not, in the case of baltimore, one store owner who defrauded the government for $2 million. that's $2 million that didn't get to the hands of needy recipients. >> the amount republicans want to cut is $40 billion over ten years. critic, say that's an arbitrary fig, way too much. >> it's a 5% decrease.

when we know there's 10.5% of the stores that take food stamps are engaged in trafficking, so we know the fraud stands at 10% of the stores. we only want to cut 5%. that should leave more money into the hands of the people who do need it. >> if you change the requirement, some people will be throwing, you know, some people will be eliminated for qualifying for food stamps. how do you decide who needs food stamps and who doesn't? is there some study that says how many people are on the rolls right now who are not deserving? >> well, again, there's the one study that's showed by the department of agriculture 10% of stores are committing fraud. what we're doing is just saying, look, if we're going to help you with food stamps, and we are, then we need you to either work, look for employment, if you're able bodied, not disabled and able to work. either be working, look for

work, or engage in job training. we think that's a commonsense tradeoff for getting help from the american taxpayer that needy people need. >> some might say it's easy to say, you know, get some job training, get a new job, get a better paying job, but there aren't that many jobs available at this particular time in our economy to accomplish that. or is there, in your mind? >> well, no, look, clearly this economy is stagnant. there's no question about it. we have different ideas from the president on how to get that job engine going. we're not telling people they have to be employed but they have to seek employment or they have to seek job training. that's reasonable. that's the hand up, as well as the hand out when in need. we think that's the double-punch people need. they need to get the aid, and we need to be giving them a hand up to getting a job. and ultimately reducing the amount of people who need food sto stamps. >> don't we have to create the jobs first? yesterday, i interviewed the ceo of panera bread. he's taking this food stamp

challenge. i asked him if he thinks food stamps are enabling people. here's what he had to say. listen. >> one in six americans, 48 million americans, are food insecure. now, are there people in that group that are taking advantage of it in some way? i'm sure there are. on the other hand, are there people who have real need? absolutely. and the question we each individually have to ask is what kind of society we want. what does it mean? and how do we want to live? >> your response to that. >> i couldn't agree with him more. we have to help those people in need. again, he agrees, there are peep who are getting it who probably shouldn't be. again, we know 10% of stores are trafficking in food stamps. we know there's waste, fraud and abuse. we think it's reasonable to say, let's -- we know there's probably 10%. when you combine people who probably should be working or are looking for a job or in job training, plus the stores that shouldn't be trafficking.

we're only asking for a 5% decrease in a time of budgetary crisis where, you know, this is being put up against, you know, funding the nih for basic medical research. this is putting money in defense. we're saying, look, let's be smart with the dollars we have, help the people who need it and help the people, again who can work, get a job, find a job. obviously, in this economy, you're going to have a lot of people who can't get a job right now. no question about it. everybody agrees this economy is stagnant. but we have to -- we have to at least make the offer of job training, and encourage people to do that in order to -- when this recession is finally over, god knows when, let's go ahead and -- >> i hear you on job training but who exactly is going to do that? and where's the money going to come from? because the savings that you're going to save from cutting this $40 billion from the food stamp roll, for lack a better term, is not going to go to job training. >> oh, we have billions of dollars in job training. there are 41 different programs the federal government provides

grants for that provides job training in the states. we have a lot of programs. we have to just get these to the people who need them most. i think the people who require federal help, federal food stamp help in times of need are people who we ought to be doing more than just giving them food stamps. we ought to be getting them the job training. getting this economy going. this is part of a larger effort to say, look, let's get america back. remember, the number of people on food stamps has doubled in the last three years. we've got to reverse that trend. one way to do it is get this economy going again. >> congressman, thank you for joining me this morning, i appreciate it. >> my pleasure, carol. still to come in the "newsroom," miss america addresses her historymaking win. >> i want to be the first indian miss america, to be that symbol of a new face for the organization. >> why she says she is proof positive the girl next door is evolving. [ female announcer ] it's simple physics...

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makeup and heels going head to head in pageants. it's been reality tv ratings gold here in the u.s. >> go, baby. >> reporter: if lawmakers in france get their way. there will be no french honey boo boo. the country's senate voted to ban page ain't es for kids under 16. the measure will go to the lower house for a vote. the momentum in france was partly fueled by this cover spread in vogue. a child in sexy poses. critics argue these competitions sexualize girls at too young an age. >> you're basically telling a young girl that her visual, her physical self, is more important than her emotional intelligence or intellectual intelligence. >> reporter: anna berry says her 13-year-old daughter ashley overcame extreme shyness competing in shyness.

and now ashley gives speeches around the country talking about her experience with bullying. berry tells cnn, i know without a doubt that my 13-year-old can outinterview anyone and speak more confidently than most adults. some psychologists are concerned about normalizing bae havior for young girls that would have once been considered extreme. >> now it seems okay for a little girl, a 6-year-old, to be walking in thigh high boots and short booty shorts. that's what a stripper does. >> it's hard to watch. i wasn't allowed to shave my legs until i was 12 years old. it's unbelievable. i'd like to know what you think about this. go to my facebook page. there's a place for your comments. i'm interested to hear what you think. back at home, there's a different kind of controversy in the pageant world after 24-year-old nina davuluri became the first indian-american to be

crowned miss american. others have lashed out on social media, claiming her heritage disqualifies her somehow from that title. for her part, she says she welcomes that debate. >> it's something i've grown up with, a stereotype, which is why i started my platform. so inhave always viewed miss america as the girl next door but the girl next door is evolving. she's not who she was ten years ago and she's not going to be the same person come ten years down the road. going into this, i wanted to be the first indian miss america to be the symbol of a new face for the organization, hope, and let younger girls know regardless of race, their socioeconomic status, their religion, that anyone can become not only miss america but anything because i am living my american dream right now. >> she's so beautiful and well spoken. becky anderson is in london this morning. we all know about the backlash nina received here in the united states. backlash in india too?

>> well, it's amazing, isn't it, you could argue these pageants are a relic of the past or outmoded, but the debate, fueled by nina's victory, is very, very 2013. as the u.s. argues about just how american or not the daughter of indian immigrants is. the irony is that in india she'd be too dark skinned to probably win miss america. there is a sort of conventional standard of beauty in india these days, which says that you need to be fair skinned. and that is very, very big business. the pigment or the paradox of pigment as it were is massive business. that skin whitening creams are absolutely huge. the preference for fairness in skin color, carol, goes really, really deep into indian culture. if you look at marriage ads, and there are many, many of those in

india, you often see grooms and brides being looked for who are of fair skin. so it is -- it seems sort of ironic, doesn't it, that somebody who is fighting a good fight in the states, as it were, for being american, in india, would probably stand absolutely no chance of winning the national pageant there. remarkable stuff. >> it's just sad. it just makes me sad. and to the united states' credit, there are critics, but i think there are few. i think most americans embrace this young woman. she's beautiful, she's well spoken, and she's done more than one interview, and people are really listening to her. >> that's right. and in her interviews, she has said, she said during the pageant, she was opposed to plastic surgery, for example. she didn't talk about skin whitening creams herself. you're absolutely right, for every one nasty tweet, let's be quite frank about this, social

media has been awash with really, really nasty things said about this girl. she said for every one bad tweet she's got since the pageant on sunday, she's had 12 dozen, she says, of really supportive tweets. she'll go out there. she's somebody who really embraces cultural diversity. she calls it sort of cultural competency. she really wants to make a difference, and she will, i'm sure about this. these remarkable debates continue on in what seems, you know, seems ridiculous, isn't it it, in 2013, we're talking about things like skin whitening creams, but there you go. >> i'm not into these beauty pageants either but in this particular case i'm glad she was crowned miss america because she can accomplish something. becky anderson, thank you. one of television's most critically acclaimed shows, "breaking bad." >> you brought a meth lab to the

airport? >> why, you said we were in a hurry. >> there are only two episodes left and fans are on the edge of their couch waiting to see what tear be a end is in store for walter white. here's cnn's report. >> say my name. >> reporter: people have been saying his name a lot lately. bryan cranston, "breaking bad." who would have predicted so much attention on a show about tv's scariest high school chemistry teacher who makes meth to pay for his cancer treatment. >> what is it with you guys? >> reporter: good question. 13 emmy nominations this year. critical acclaim. record ratings. it's a good time to be bad. >> "breaking bad" is really hot. so people would maybe hadn't watched it are watching it now. >> reporter: are they ever. almost 6 million people watched the midseason premiere. a record for amc. they're not just watching, they're tweeting and blogging and breaking down "breaking bad." >> you go online and it's like a deconstruction that used to be reserved for shakespeare, for, you know, honors papers on

shakespeare. >> reporter: you can find plenty devotion here on youtube. a quick search for "breaking bad" fan videos yields almost 400,000 results. whether it's the fake "breaking bad" sitcom. >> i'm talking with ted. >> reporter: or a jimmy fallon spoof, "joking bad." >> there's no end to what we can do. >> reporter: there is an end to the show. the closer it gets, the more everybody wants to know how the show will end. well, almost everybody. >> i don't want to know! i want to watch it just like you people! i'm just as much a fan as you are. >> reporter: but he won't be saying good-bye just yet. amc recently lly announced of character. >> better call sal. >> reporter: will the "breaking bad" buzz help come emmy time? >> "breaking bad" is the show to beat. period, end of statement. >> reporter: cranston nabbed three straight emmys for playing walter white. now he's just getting ready to say good-bye to what he's called the role of a lifetime.

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