lively conversation. i'm glad we had it. but while we might agree there is dysfunction in washington, we fundamentally will disagree on obamacare and the role it should play. >> the debate continues online. >> join us tomorrow for another edition of crossfire. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. next, outrage as washington is about to fail the american people again. why the gop is on fire and firing away. plus why is syria moving its chemical weapons again in direct defiance of the united states? and the same company that vetted the man responsible for the navy yard massacre also vetted another infamous figure. an investigation, what is usis? it matters big time. let's go "outfront".

and good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett,. tonight the united states in crisis. 11 days up the government shuts down. so what does it mean for america? >> very serious consequences for the financial markets and for the economy. >> apocalypse every three months. >> bleeding over into the consumer sector. >> going to do great harm for the american people. >> hundreds of thousands of federal workers will be september home withosent home without pay. >> this is among the most fiscally reckless things you can do. >> democrat, republican, market expert, man in charge of the american economy. washington is failing again. and this time some republicans say they have a plan to keep funding the government. but only if they take funding for obamacare out of it. as we'ved is before, that is a nonstarter. and whether you love or loath

obamacare, that is not the point. it's a guarantee of a shutdown. and while there is plenty of waste and abuse in washington, the truth is a shutdown does nothing about that. out front tonight, tom cole. great to see you. let's start with this. in your party, sir, some are taking a stand on principle that they think obamacare is bad for america and they will stop funding it as part of this deal. obviously that will not pass the senate. it will shut down the government. is it worth it? >> first of all, i don't think we will have a government shutdown. that's certainly not our intention. actually the bill makes sure funding continues. there is a defunding provision for oig care oig in the bill. that reflects what the majority thinks in the house. we'll send it to the senate. they have plenty of time to act. a number of our colleagues on the republican side have made the point that they think they can get it done, they would like to have the opportunity, they have some unusual tools in the

filibuster and they also have democrats that they may not want to defund it, but it they might want to delay it if only for political purposes. but i expect the senate will send something back and the house will respond to that. but i would be very surprised if we get to a government shutdown. that's not our aim. >> so you think it is a serious proposition, though, to take the funding away for obamacare? the only reason i ask, as we all know, this is the president's signature policy chief thachiev. i know a lot of people hate it. i'm just saying it's passed the supreme court. it is the law of the land. and using a shutdown to try to defund it seems a little bit ridiculous to a lot of people. >> remember, we've changed the law seven times already and saved about $62 million. i think we'll continue to chip away at it where we can. but this was a unique opportunity. again, all the senate has to do is act. they don't have to do what we

say. but you can't expect the house to simply follow whatever the senate dictates. so this reflects the house's majority. the senate can operate and act and frankly those senators that wanted this in their court have it in their court. we'll see whether or not they can handle it. and what they can do with it. at the end of the day if they'll send us back something, we'll react to that. the speaker made it clear last thing we want to do is shut down the government. this bill does not shut down the government. it would take nonaction by the united states senate. and let me say i expect them to act, not sit on their thumbs so to speak. >> the speaker also said, though, of course back in march that he thought using obamacare was holding the government hostage and a recipe for a shutdown and he thought it was irresponsible to do this. now obviously he's going ahead with it. but this isn't -- his heart doesn't seem to be in it. >> will isn't our final move in this match. we're waiting now assuming we pass the bill tomorrow on the senate to act. when it acts, we'll respond.

so just because we put something in there doesn't mean the senate has to respond. we hope they will. some of our senators over there have asked us to do that. we said okay. and we'll put you in the game and see how you do. and then at some point, the senate will send us back a product and i expect the house to pick that up and try to move swiftly. but again, we agree, we don't think the government ought to are shutdown. i don't think it's an effective tactic. and i think the political consequences of it are fairly bad for the people that actually do it. >> i totally believe what you say and i know a lot of you have your heart exactly where your mouth is. but the truth of it is to the american people, it's, okay, now we have a deadline. we have to relitigate things that have already been litigated. in this case it's obamacare. everybody says they don't want to shut the government down, but yet they might pass something that will defund obamacare. a democratic senate won't pass it. so you're saying you don't want

to do it, but you're willing to do it. >> let's wait and see what the senate does. all the senate has to do is act on the legislation. they will receive it in plenty of time. they can send it back with or without the defunding provision in it and then we have to respond. but the idea that somehow severally becau simply because we sent it over there means they wiacquiesce. we hope they will. but let's give them the opportunity and see what they do. at the end of the day, we'll deal with what they send us. i think we're at the beginning of about a 75 day negotiation where we try to deal with the end of the fiscal year, debt ceiling and deficit. so this is a first move in a much larger negotiation. >> you just ruined my dap day, killed my heart and broke my heart. 75 day as. congressman cole, thank you. >> i'm so sorry. >> everybody watching you making a lot of tears flow. thank you, sir.

appreciate it. >> you bet. our second story "outfront," 75 days of hell. no, actually, it's this. who pay as political price for the shutdown. john king is here. this is tom cole, fourth ranking republican in the house. the guy who just said this summer that shutting down the government to get your way over an unrelated piece of legislation, ie obamacare, is the political equivalent of throwing a temper tantrum and now it sounds like he's totally in line. what the heck happened? >> you'll be able to tell your children and grandchildren you once lived in a parallel universe. the house republicans have now taken a complete about face to be loyal to their speaker. you're right about what congressman cole said this consumer. pete king, the republican, said just yesterday it would be a kamikaze mission. today he says let do it. the speaker has decided because he accepted it to the

senate. the senate most likely will accepted it back and then the challenge begins. if the senate leaves that money in there, then the house will act again and i'm told when they act again, they will try again on health care. will they try to cut part of it, try to just delay it a year. we'll go through this dance for at least a week or so on the shutdown and then as the congressman rightly noted, on the debt ceiling. >> i believe no one wants to shut the government down, but they're like as long as i get my own way. of course we all know that's not how things work. so i find it deeply frustrating. but what about john boehner? because you look at the public and you look at the polls. and they play the gop for this loud and spanking clear. right? john boehner was totally against this obama care move. and yet now he's doing it. does he have control over the party? >> he is at risk of losing control over his caucus. which is why he's doing this to try to keep control. what he's doing to them is saying here is your carrot, i'll give you the vote even though i

think it's a bad idea. i'm on the record as saying it's a bad idea. let's do it. we'll accepted it over to the senate. the challenge for his leadership is when it comes back. how do you avoid a government shutdown. what else do you try to give the tea party conservatives. and let's be honest. republicans are heading into a midterm election cycle where john boehner thinks they can pick up some seats in the house. over on the senate side, republicans have a chance to be the majority in the senate. so republican strategists say what we're doing angers independents, convinces people we're in the a serious governing party and it will hurt us next year. why would we do this? but that vocal minority pushing it, most of them go home to 60%, 65% republican districts. republican lost them. they are not at risk. and they're not looking at the big picture. and many of them promise this had to the voters. so i'm not criticizing them per se, but they're not looking at it from a governing perspective. >> no, from a perspective their

small electorate. but it is frustrating. >> 75 days of parallel universe. >> oh, 75 days. all right. still to come, developing tonight, syria moving its chemical weapons in defiance of the united states. where and why? breaking news tonight. plus a strange twist in that story of the 14-year-old girl kidnapped from her home. her rescue captured the nation's attention. officials frantically searching for the child and they arrested two men. but the mother of that girl could be in trouble tonight. plus the home of former nfl player trashed by 300 kids. and he is not going to let them get away with it. a report on what he's doing now. and we'll take you to a place where floods have killed 80 and the water is rising tonight. [ male announcer ] introducing new fast acting advil. with an ultra-thin coating and fast absorbing advil ion core™ technology, it stops pain before it gets worse.

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our second story "outfront," a developing story. syria's chemical weapons again on the move in a major act of e defiance. the united states has no idea what he's doing with it. the movement has all occurred, this is a really amazing fact, all of it since september 14th. that is the day when secretary of state john kerry made a deal with russia to secure and destroy syria's weapons. a deal that syria has now embraced. barbara starr broke this news today and barbara, obviously this is a significant headline. it might not surprise a lot of people, but it is a big deal. and what does the intelligence

really show? >> well, that's the problem, erin, right there. since september 14th, the u.s. intelligence community has been getting information that syria is moving some of that stockpile. why? what's the motivation? two possibilities. they're moving it to consolidate it so they can declare it to the international community. intelligence community is pretty skeptical about that scenario. the concern of course is they are moving it to hide it. so when inspectors come in, they won't find everything that they're looking for. the syrians won't declare it, it will have moved. how are they finding this intelligence? u.s. satellites well-known fly overhead. they have been seeing vehicles move, trucks, vehicles, pull up to some of these chemical weapons storage sites and then they drive away. what's in there, how much material. these are all the key questions. there is a lot of skepticism.

that syria is even positioning about living up to its part of the deal. >> i know the question then will be proving that beyond a reasonable doubt. enough to get action. does this mean that the whole plan p that assad publicly embraced even last night that i'll give all my chemical weapons to international control is dead on arrival? because obviously if it means that, that means strikes have to come right back on the table which the president of course i'm sure is very loath to do. >> well, it's going to depend i suppose on how much anybody believes what assad says. so what the intelligence community doing to develop its own information, its case counter to what the russians are saying, to what the syrian regime is saying? think of this way, satellites are flying overhead, they're using communication intercepts very well-known. they have spies on the fwrougroo to speak. people in neighboring countries reporting in what they see. the russians are trying to

assure the u.s. that everything will go well and the syrians will declare everything they have. right now there is a big chunk, pentagon, cia, intel against that isn't willing to buy that tonight. >> i don't think anyone trusts assad on that.isn't willing to tonight. >> i don't think anyone trusts assad on that. now our fourth story. when ayvani perez was found safe yesterday, the focus of the investigation to her kidnapping shifted to the suspected kidnapper. with you cnn has learned one of the suspects in custody was also arrested last year with perez's mother. ayvani perez was kidnapped during a home invasion on tuesday. investigators now say this wasn't random. this case captivated a lot of people around the country. martin savidge has been covering it. last night you said there are a lot of strange things here and questions to be answered. tonight we'll celebrate her

return. today those strange questions that you raise are loud and clear. what happened? >> yeah, we're starting to find out here that there are a couple of recurring themes and they're not necessarily good ones. as you already pointed out, this does that appear to be a random home invasion with a kidnapping. we're also finding out there could be as many as six suspects involved here. and lastly, there is a reoccurring theme and that theme seems to be drugs and money. let's talk about the suspects and the relationship to the kidnapped victim's mother. she was arrested last year along with a man who is also under arrest in connection with the kidnapping of her daughter. what's the relationship? at that time, it was a drug bust that had the two of them wrapped up. charges were dropped against both the mother and that man. but you wonder what is their relationship? how do they know one another? how are they related in this case or the case previous? that's still being worked out. authorities won't talk about it. but it's a link and that link is not one that points to

randomness. so it's not looking good. >> no, certainly a story that seemed to be a good story turning in to something darker. thank you. ahead, breaking details on the company that vetted the navy yard shooter and breaking details tonight, by the way the same company that cleared edward snowden. that, incredible. then a lesson in social media. 300 kids break into a home, throw a huge party and trash the place. and then they do something really stupid. and our shout out tonight -- thieves beware. taking care of e is just a tap away. ♪ introducing at&t digital life... ♪ ...personalized home security and automation... [ lock clicks ] ...that lets you be closer to home. that's so cool. [ male announcer ] get $100 in instant savings when you order digital life smart security. limited availability in select markets. ♪

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our fifth story "outfront," kids trash a former nfl player's home. big mistake. this is what brian holloway's house looked like earlier this week. graffiti, garbage, thousands of dollars worth of damage. turned out neighborhood teens broke in and invited hundreds of friends to party. wait until you find out how holloway found out. lauren siegel up front. >> reporter: broken windows. widespread graffiti. stolen family treasures. 300 high schoolers broke into holloway's 200 acre estate. they threw a party while he was away. but holloway watched it unfold live on twitter. so you were on vacation in florida and your home was being vandalized. people were partying in your home and you watched it all unfold online. >> sure. i was following the tweets and you could see the conversation

go from this is the greatest party ever, i can't believe we broke in here, look at all these people drinking, this is amazing. look at her, she drank too much. look, we can't even wake her will up, who cares. to oh, my god, the cops are here. run to the woods and get rid of all the drugs. >> reporter: $20,000 worth of damage. >> the carpets were soaked. i walked on them and they would squish like a sponge. and could you teyou could tell smell, it's beer, liquor, vomit, urine. and all that went down. >> reporter: holloway took matters in to his own hands, publicly posting the names and tweets online. a call for parents to take note. >> what was going on in these 300 kids' minds and how this made sense, how did we get so far off track. where are we now. and what do we do to get moving in the right direction. >> some of the kids that broke in new brian's son growing up. >> a lot of people are saying

please take my picture off like i don't deserve this, i need to go to college. but the thing is, we offered them a chance to come and redeem themselves the next day, only one student showed up to help clean up the mess. >> reporter: but the former nfl player feels like it's time it for a digital wake-up call. >> this is happening right now. i'm telling you kid across this country are planning the same sort of flash party and they're tweeting and communicating about it right now. and it's going to go down tomorrow. i assure you. and so this is a shout out to all those other parents and community member, you need to it take a good look at this and determine how you're going to go about dealing with this issue. >> reporter: lori siegel, cnn money, new york. we're rooting for them because he is absolutely right. still to come, has the pope gone too far in the holy father makes strong comments today and conservative catholics are fighting back hard. plus a controversy paradox, showing sympathy for those with ptsd or making security clearance tougher to obtain. is that choice making america

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welcome back to the second half of "outfront". in apinterview released in 16 countries today, pope francis says the catholic church does not have the right to, quote, interfere spiritually in the lives of gays an less bee answer. the media has been reading in to the pope's statement as unprecedented tolerance of gayso the pope's statement as unprecedented tolerance of gays. this is a trend that they have seen from pope flap srancis 37 some catholics say this is a misinterpretation. he said pope francis unwe could cliffly rejected both abortion and gay marriage. cardinal dolan says pope francis is a man who profoundly believes in the mercy of a loving god. he sure is. taking the church on. that was my comment, not his

quote. america's largest bank on the line for $1.3 billion. jpmorgan chase ordered to refund $390 million to customers, pay $80 million in fines about credit card billing and another nearly billion dollars in fines over the london whale trading scandal. jamie dimon talked about that scandal today saying the bank has acknowledged our mistakes from the start and has worked to fix them. dimon has taken a big hit over that trade. it generated $6 billion in paper losses and he initially characterized the storm over it of course as a tempest in a teapot. the shocking story out of miami involving a shooting, a car chase and apparent suicide. it unfolds and a 48-year-old man allegedly shoots and kills his ex-girlfriend and daughter. and then the suspect leads officers on a high speed chase endangering more lives which ends when he crashes into the

car you see there. he killed another driver. when officers tried approaching his suv, they report shots are fired. police call in the s.w.a.t. team to find he took his own life. investigators later discovered hydroponics inside his home and seized 43 marijuana plants. horrible story. the odds of winning power ball are 1 in 175 million, but o obviously that means there is one winner and that was in lexington, south carolina. the ticket sold at a gas station. so it often seemed to us, emphasis on seemed, that the winning tickets are sold in gas stations. so we checked it out to see if it is true. and it is. of 22 recent win, ten were sold at gas station, four at supermarkets. one each at a pharmacy, airport and an ice cream shop.

it has been 775 days since the u.s. lost its p top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? as we count down to the government shutdown, federal debt will reach 100% of gdp in 25 years. importantly, the cbo says that does not account for the negative effects the growing debt will have on the u.s. economy. currently nearly half of all federal spending goes to social security, medicare and medicaid up from 23% ten years ago. and now our sixth story. cnn tonight has learned that the same company that conducted the background check for navy yard gunman aaron alexis also vetted edward snowden. stop and consider that for a second. the company is usis and it vetted alexis in 2007 and snowden in 2011. usis is a private government contractor skurnlt currently under investigation. alexis' background including his history of troubled mental health has been a focal point

for investigators who have been asking how in the world this person was able to get security clearance. pentagon correspondent chris lawrence is "outfront". these are the kinds of things where you think there is no way this could be true because it's just so -- so shocking almost like a parity, but what can you tell us about usis and this development? >> just a couple days ago, usis said we didn't do his background check. now the company is saying, oh, we did. and it's not surprising because usis conducts about half of all the background checks for the federal government. now, they say they are not allowed to retain any of the records about that background check. but federal officials have told us that some of aaron alexis' runs ins with the law as well as serious mental health issues occurred after that initial back ground check. aaron alexis told police he was a hallucinating and hearing voices. he once got so mad he shot out

the tires on someone's car. alex alexis' family claims he suffered from ptsd. and still he kept his security clearance. >> the political correctness. >> reporter: some lawmakers argue the government has watered down the security clearance screening process for all members of the military. >> want to be politically correct, we don't want to sti a stigmatize anybody. >> reporter: advocates lobbied for an exception. suicide rates were spiking and more troops an vets were seeking mental health care. in 2008, the government said if you sought mental health counseling related to having been in military combat, do you not have to disclose that. alexis was never in combat. but veterans expect his actions to ignite some criticism over the questionnaire. >> i think well be called on to defend the question and the change made in 2008. >> reporter: iraq and afghanistan veterans say tighter

standards would make them so scared of losing their clear answers they just wouldn't seek help at all. >> they're concerned about their employment.seek help at all. >> they're concerned about their employment. concerned about their career. >> reporter: in march the government proposed changing the actual question to ask the last seven years have you had a mental health condition that would cause an objective observer to have concern about your judgment, reliability or trust woreliness in relation to your work. >> i think that the proposed changes make things even more vague than they were before. >> reporter: attorney sheldon cohen has come upped peop edcou through the process. he says the change may encourage shall people to self report, but ultimately the screenings are not even designed to predict if say an employee like alexis will one day try to kill his co-workers. >> these are designed to determine if you're the kind of person that can safe guard classified information. >> we're also learning new information about what happened

at that navy yard. authorities now believe that aaron alexis came out of the bathroom with the shotgun and methodically but randomly started shooting people on the third and fourth floors. not down into the atrium as we first believed. they say there was no pattern to it and at some point he went down to the first floor, shot a security guard and took his handgun. when authorities found him, he was in a room filled with cubicles and they had to clear those cubicles one by one until they got to him. a t at that point, he engaged them and they shot aaron alexis. >> thank you very much. new ally or wolf in sheep's clothing? just tonight, just coming out, the "washington post," an op-ed by the new president of iran, rowhani, offer to ing to broke peace deal between the west and syria. and in what could be the most

significant gesture, the new president of iran also tweeted today that he, quote, has not ruled out the possibility of meeting with president obama at the u.n. general assembly next week adding, quote, everything is possible in the world of politics. everything and nothing perhaps. cnn's jim sciutto is "outfront" tonight with the latest. in the "washington post" op-ed that i just referenced, rowhani said he wants to get involved in the talks between the syrian government and the opposition. i'm just curious, we hear about this man, he's a reformer. others say, no, he's a wolf's in sheep's clothing. just saying all these nice things. what do you think? how significant is all this talk? >> well, i've been to iran a number of times. i always thought the term reformer is overused in iran. it's just different shades of hard liners there. this is a regime that is intent on its own survival. that said, there are different approaches. and this is as you said unprecedented outreach. i've spoken to a number of people and they call it the most

significant outreach since the 1979 revolution. and because it is quite broad. you have this invitation to the u.s. president to meet at the u.n. ga next would he beek. an outreach to jews after years of his predecessor made lini li jews. and now the offer to broker a peace treaty. potential significant because iran is syria's main backer. it would if affect recognize syrian opposition as legitimate. i can't imagine syria opposition wanting iran to be an unbiased broker. but still taken together, you have a very different approach to the outside world. and u.s. officials that i've spoken to are at least intrigued by this, but they have been down this path before and they want to see action in addition to the words. >> intrigued. and of course i hear from israeli sources and also from arab sources they actually agree many of them. they don't trust what he says.

this is a man who previously used a period of peace with the west on the nuclear issue as a time to later brag. that's when he made the most progress. this is coming at a time when there are reports senior military officials in iran said if the u.s. does anything in syria, attack the american embassy in iraq. if other countries said that, the united states might be at war. but better's n they're not in t case. people are talking about talks. >> no question. better they're case. people are talking about talks. >> no question.better they're n case. people are talking about talks. >> no question.etter they're no case. people are talking about talks. >> no question.tter they're not. people are talking about talks. >> no question.er they're not i. people are talking about talks. >> no question.er they're not i. people are talking about talks. >> no question.r they're not in. people are talking about talks. >> no question. they're not in . people are talking about talks. >> no question.t they're not in. people are talking about talks. >> no question. terrorism has always been a tool of iran's policy and will likely remain so. we know that based on tracing the sources of some of the more dangerous ieds there. i think when you look at this, though, the one reason why it's credible that iran is reaching out now and wants a different interaction with the west, particularly the u.s., is that

these sanctions that it has been suffering under for a number of years are truly crippling the economy. it's very painful. and that leads to questions in this regime about its own survival. and this is what rowhani has said, that he was elected in the most recent presidential election to helplessne lessen s the effects. it skdoesn't have to be they suddenly found god and became warm and fuzzy. it could be that practical issue of survival in light of very severe sanctions which the people won't tolerate. remember, iran is looking at countries all of its neighbors, these regimes, its old friends are falling due to popular uprisings. and you have to think that they're thinking in the back of their mind that could be up next. >> all right. thank you very much, jim sciu o sciutto. john mccain flablasted puti

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oklahoma. they already have some clues. confirming the identities of the bodies and how they got there will be time consuming and difficult. ed lavendera has been on the scene from the beginning. >> reporter: this was jimmy williams standing next to his bright blue 1969 camaro bought six days before he disappeared 43 years ago. a sweet driving muscle car that would be the envy of any teenaged boy. this is what oklahoma investigators believe that car looks like now. a corroded jelly like carcass found sitting at the bottom of foss lake in western oklahoma. it was one of two cars found there this week containing the remains of six body. when williams and two other friends disappeared in 1970, his family friend missing posters over their hometown offering a $500 reward. the teenagers were believed to either be on their way to a football game or on a hunting

expedition. no one knows. but we did see investigators uncover two core raided rifles from the car. investigators say they have not ruled out foul play yet, but they says pekt the six victims doesn'tly drowned, that the cars rolled back into the water and cars trapped inside. they were discovered by a team divers with the highway patrol. they were testing new sonar equipment. >> it's too murky. >> reporter: it wasn't up the cars were pulled out of the water that the gruesome and mysterious discovery was made. >> when we brought them up on shore, that was whenever the doors opened and you can see the skeleton remains. >> that's your grandfather? >> yeah. >> reporter: john is believed to be one of the victims in the second car. he and two friends were last seen driving a 1950s chevy when they disappeared in 1969. this could be what that car

looks like now. his granddaughter says her family used to look out on to this water and wonder. >> we'd always -- maybe grandpa is in the lake, you know, maybe he had an accident. >> you used to say that? >> yeah. even since i've been married and an adult, we would come up here, you know, maybe grandpa's in the lake. maybe that's where he's at. >> reporter: a random thought that may turn out to be oddly prophetic. ed lavendera, cnn, foss lake. >> doctor, here is the thing that sort of shocked me. we can identified king tut, king richard the third was under a parking lot in britain and they were able to identify them and they're saying they can't identify these bodies. how come? >> i think they can identify these bodies. there are things that anthropologists can do to assemble the mixture of bones answer separate them out

>> why is it going to take so long when it was so quick, for example, recently with richard iii? >> well, there's no soft tissue, first of all. >> meaning skin? >> skin, no skin, no muscle. the only thing you've got is skeletal remains. and the only way to identify them is through dental records or x-rays if there were fractures, for example, but then you'd have to get those records. other than that, you're down to dna. and the way we do bones is through dna. we have relatives, these are not -- we're not looking to identify these out of the universe of people. we've got it narrowed down to six possible people. so through dna, we should be able to do that. it may take some time. >> interesting. but you're saying it really is that there's often -- >> advanced decomposition. >> left on very, very old skeletons, obviously not in this case because of the water. >> most of the time we're talking about mitochondreal dna.

>> we've also been hearing, ed lavandera's been reporting rifles, wallets, purse coming to the surface now which is eerie and bizarre after all this time. but that would be crucial in this particular case, right? >> absolutely. not just the skeletal remains but anything else in and around the car. finding a walt, a shoe. for example, you find the shoe, it's got a certain size and then you can then say, well, perhaps this size nine fits this skeleton. >> and a shoe could last that long in water. >> absolutely. and if you find guns, for example, that would be consistent with the teenagers that were out to go shooting. >> all right. well, thank you very much, sort of just fascinating, a mystery like this in one lake and six people and then there's how it's tied together. >> it's a mystery. thank you. it's time for today's outfront outtake. you know, you know a week ago putin wrote the op ed in the

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