goldberg, some of the people getting elevated segments? and you're leaving oit people that were such icons in the history. corey montif could have been an icon. he is as deserving? he definitely appeals to a younger audience. >> we'll be watching. thank you. >> thank you for sharing your time us with here this morning. >> "state of the union" with candy crowley o" starts now. a as soon as f season of deadlines and consequences. today house republicans will continue to fund the government as long as obama care is defunded. >> it's time to say no. it's time to stop this before it causes any more damage. >> unable to stop the bill. >> the house will be in order. >> house democrats move to shape the message. >> they're andy government idealogues. >> our exclusive with house democratic leader nancy pelosi

on looming budget showdowns, her own political future, and the pope. then republicans versus republicans. >> i will do everything possible to defund obama care. >> we can't let the government shut down. >> our political panels take on the civil war in the gop and on the eve of the u.n. general assembly, a look at the legacy of barack obama's foreign policy. brilliant strategy or sheer luck. plus, will she or won't she? does she even know? more tea leaves from the front-runner. >> this is "state of the union." >> good morning from washington. i'm candy crowley. house republicans celebrated the passage of the spending bill this week. it will be short lived. next stop, the democratic controlled house.

this could result in a government shutdown october 1st. the president accuses republicans of playing politics and trying to mess with him. house democratic leader nancy pelosi calls them anti-government. >> we're not here to expand government. but we're not here to eliminate government. if the idea is to limit government, let's work together to do that. >> i sat down with nancy pelosi just after the house vote and asked her where she is willing to compromise. >> where are you willing to limit government? >> well, none of us of comes here to have more government than we need. so we should subject everything we do to real scrutiny to say is this needed because most of it is an expenditure. so is this needed? is this doing what it set out to do? can we consolidate? we should only subject and review what we do here to make

the country work for the american people. i was making the distinction between those who don't need more government. the anti-government ideology is making a mess of what goes on in congress now. >> do you think there will be a government shutdown or is there room in there for some sort of agreement that could bring enough democrats and enough republicans in the house together to keep the government in business at the end of the month? >> let's be really clear about this. the republicans put legislation on the floor that was intended to shut down government. for them, that's a victory. because they're anti-government idealogues who dominate the republican party. >> they want to defund obama care. >> no, they want to shut down the government. the effect of putting affordable care act on the bill is to shut down government. they know that. they know that has no prospect

of prevailing. >> do you believe they really want to shut down the government? as you said to them, they would say we think this is a disaster because it is hurting businesses. it is causing businesses to go from full time jobs to part time jobs. so they can get out from under health care. >> it is an excuse. it not a reason. it is an excuse, it is not a reason. now for the 42nd time this week they voted to defund one approach or another, did fund affordable care act. they know it's not going anyplace. instead of spending the time of congress to reach an agreement -- now, this is a wolf in wolf's clothing. two nos do not make a yes. on the other hand, now they have a bill. it is sort of disguises what is happening on the budget side where they have a budget figure which the chairman said this is not enough funding to carry on

the work of government. >> that was my next question. is the spending level okay with you? set aside -- >> no. >> no. how far away are you from what they could deal with? >> what we deal with is what we agreed to in the budget control act which is a bipartisan agreement. the bunt control act was one trillion 57. that makes a very big difference in service to the american people. so i think it's really born to note that there are lots of excuses that they use. but for many of them, i call them legislative arsonists. they're there to burn down what we should be building up in terms of investments and education and scientific research and all that it is that makes our country great and competitive. i don't paint them all with the same brush. i don't paint the speaker with that brush. enough of them in the caucus to shut down government.

that will be a victory for them. >> coming up for a big date on obama care first when people can begin to sign up through the marketplaces. do you have any reservations at all? are you worried at all? i ask you this because you know union leaders, james hoffa is one of those who wrote a letter to you and said obama care is now stands would "destroy the foundation of the 40 hour work week." that's pretty tough from a loyal democratic constituency. >> well, we're working on the issue that relates to all of these multiemployer plans which unions are one and some are charities. >> bargaining rights or otherwise risks. there is more than one employer involved. >> in a contract. and that has to be certainly clarified. there's so much the president can do within the law. but there is some leeway to

facilitate as we are in the congress under the exchanges. so i'm optimistic. we will find a path. but overwhelmingly for the american people, this is a liberati liberation. this is life, healthy life, liberty, the freedom to pursue your happiness which could be follow your passion for good rather than follow your palace and be con trained by your policy. it's about wellness. it's about prevention, it's about a healthier america. >> it's not reducing the deficit so far? >> it s by any measure you seek that the cost of health care in our country is at the rate of increase is greatly reduced. >> but still increasing? >> but we're on the right path. the bill isn't implemented yet. so when it is implemented which will be -- they'll sign up in

october. it will be implemented in january. you'll see more of that. and this will reduce cost, again, public, privately, individually to people. and so when he this talk about wanting to reduce the deficit, they're completely wrong. now has that message gotten out? obviously not adequately. >> no chance you agree to put it off as some are thinking of with the debt ceiling some republicans are thinking why don't we attach a year long delay for people to sign up? >> because they don't -- because these are people who do not believe in a public role. they think social security has no place in a free society. that's why they want to privatise. they think medicare should wi h wither on the vine. this isn't a good faith initiative. this is an excuse to, again, hand it all over to their friends, the insurance companies or, again, not have a public

role in this important initiative. >> so you wouldn't gri to anything that involved a year long delay for people signing up for insurance in the marketplace? >> positively not. no way. >> absolute lly positively not. it's important for people to get the advantages they will have. in order to do that, you enlarge the pool to do it. >> i'm hearing now from your republican colleagues that the debt ceiling which battle over which comes next month or, you know, maybe early november -- >> next week. you're going to start talking about middle october. so that is where they believe that they can begin to do some of the spending cuts they want to do. that they can negotiate there. what is your position on spending ceiling, further cuts, who does that negotiating? >> well, first of all, it is an issue that shouldn't really be a conversation. the confidence that the world and the american economy should

have and that the full faith and credit of the united states of america should be without a doubt. >> lots of presidents have negotiated over this. >> i know. but nobody has stopped it. nobody has stopped it. >> but again, i just have to point out that president clinton, president bush, president reagan, and this president have all negotiated the debt ceiling and given up something. so why now? >> because the coverage is there. there is no more cuts to make. it's really important that people understand that. we all want to reduce the deficit. remember this, president obama, when he became president, he said i'm going to cut the deficit in half in four years. he did it in four years and three months. he did that. he's on a path to deficit reduction. we're all commit the to that. put everything on the table. review it. but you cannot have any more cuts just for the sake of cuts. right now you're taking

trophies. >> not entitlements. you don't want to touch entitlements. >> we want to prolong entitlements. we're not going to sit at a table for people who say social security has no place in a free society. that's what they do. >> john boehner doesn't do that. he doesn't say i i wawant to ged of social security. >> yeah they do. this isn't odd person out in the caucus. this is in the ranks of the leadership. and by the way -- by the way, voucherizing of medicare is in the ryan budget. medicare should wither on the vine. that is in the ryan budget. president washington said as he was leaving, he cautioned against political parties at war with their own government. let me introduce you to the republican caucus and the house of representatives. not all of them, as you say, don't paint them all with the same brush. but enough of them to wag the

dog. so this is totally irresponsible, completely juvenile and as i called it legislative arson. it's just destructive. >> let me ask you to clear up any misconceptions we may have about the speakership and if your caucus so wanted and democrats were to win next year, win the majority back, would you be willing to be speaker again if your caucus wanted you? >> the question was asked me before. do you sit around dreaming of being speaker again. i said no. they read that into she doesn't want to be the speaker again. one day at a time. i love having the support of my caucus. we have a good working relationship. it's up to -- first we have to win our own elections. then we have to win the majority. and then we'll see what our caucus wants to do after that. but there are several steps along the way. >> but you intend to win your

election again. >> yeah. >> and you didn't -- i'm trying to see how i can put this. in no way did you intend to signal you were not interested in the speakership? >> no. i answered the question, do you sit around dreaming about being speaker again? no. we'll have more from minority leader nancy pelosi later this hour. first, i want to talk about everything we just heard. joining me around the table are our political contributors. i want to start with the politics in this. the democrats want their message to be republicans are anti-government and they're standing in the way of everything. you know, they shut the government down. they tried to block obama care so many times. and the republican message is going to be we're trying to stop something you hate. obama care is a disaster. we were out there standing for

the people. does that sum going up into 2016 and who has the winning message? >> i think the democrats have the winning message. that's because the democrats believe we need to grow the economy, put people back to work, continue to reduce the deficit. you heard speaker pelosi say the deficit is the lowest since 2008. we're running on a platform that we're trying to create jobs. >> you know, the obama care has become the albatross for the democrats. it is a distraction. he has no legacy for the cycle. you close your eyes and say what is this administration's vision for these four years? a year and a half has already passed and we've seen nothing. there are two things about obama care that got him under a track. people don't care about obama care. 40% do. the marketplace rejected obama care. more than 60 persons of the american people are on self-insured programs. it's a nonworkable program. the house has its point of view,

the senate has it points of view. the president forgot about his legacy and became a leader, he would say all right, let's come up with a compromise. it's all or nothing for the senate and american people want two things. they want to defund obama care and they don't want government to shut down. >> first off, if can you go out and find me a bunch of americans who sit around their table saying let's defund obama care, that's a family i want to meet. this is a washington creation. it's not that much different than the past where republicans had their message. democrats have theirs. the problem here for the republicans is they're pursuing the exact wrong tactics. they don't thank the government every day because the road is built. when you tell troops they're not going to not get paid.

government is essential to their daily lives. >> i have a different take on joe's point. i think the main point is right. the american public doesn't say the anti-government side of their family table and the pro government side of their table, instead, it's about whether or not what is a good government look like? what does martyr government look like? i think where the democrats have a danger where they always have, their entire message is focused on what the government can do for them. the republicans, they do have the danger, too. and just being anti-government. instead, we have to be for a smarter government. we have to be for a government that works for people, that creates jobs, that can actually be a more efficient in people's lives. i think that's where the focus is on being solution oriented as well as a republican party that aligns itself with people's anxieties about the growth of spending and we don't have enough economic growth now. >> republicans by and large, i

don't disagree with a lot of what kevin said. pursuing a path going in the opposite direction. >> i disagree with this. i think you have to find out the following. number one, this is not about defunding obama care. this is about obama care's already been in the marketplace. people's insurance rates are going up 20%, 30 hers, 40%. >> that's not true. >> yes, it is. >> over 100 million person experienced the benefits of obama care. whether it's young people remaining on their parents' plan or women with pre-existing conditions can now go out and get the kipd of medical help they need. this is not defunding -- this is all about the republicans not having a plan. the republicans are raising money on this to defund obama care. that does not solve the problem. >> the marketplace in america has great instincts. it's all about affordability. why do you think that 60% plus of the american people reject obama care over self-insurance

programs? premiums are 15% less. very simple. >> why do you think president obama who ran for president in 2008 on this platform and again in 2012 won overwhelmingly? all this talk about the marketplace and rejection of obama and defunding this is not true. this has gone through the ballot box several times. it's gone through the courts. republicans can't let go. and that is going to be the scene of their own destruction. >> let me reframe the question in terms of the civil war inside the republican party. nancy pelosi referred to it. there is this group of 30 to 45 corn servetives making life extremely difficult for john boehner. are they making it difficult for the republican party to keep the house? >> well, look, i think if you look at these 50 to 80 republicans, i think there were 80 that signed the letter. you look at their districts, obama care and barack obama and

democrat solution rsz very s ar unpopular. i think they believe the republican party in order to find leverage, make government work smarter and more efficiently that they have to press this to gain that leverage. i think john boehner looks at that and understands. >> well, there is pressing it and then going over the cliff with it. >> i think john boehner is taking two approaches. he can tell people that this is not going to work or he can demonstrate that the voice of these republicans and these conservatives habs to be herd. we accepted it to the senate and see what happens. >> this is a broken record now. you're not going to defund. it's a political impossibility. >> obama care is in any way popular with the american public. >> kevin, 17% to 16% of liberal democrats oppose obama care because it doesn't have the public option. if you look at the republican -- this is the republican plan from 1993, 1994 signed by democratic

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does, where does that leave vice president joe biden? polls show he's a very distant second choice. we asked house leader -- house democratic leader nancy pe lose dwr pelosi to run in. >> do you think hillary clinton will run for president? >> i don't know. i know if she does she will win. and when she becomes president, she'll be the best equipped, best prepared people to enter the white house in a very long time. she is by dent of her experience as a senator, as a secretary of state, as a first lady herself with participating the way she did. certainly with all due respect to our president and i think he's magnificent and wonderful and a blessing to us, but certainly more prepared than president obama. certainly more prepared than president bush. certainly more prepared than president clinton. >> more prepared than joe biden? >> well, i'm saying the presidents that we've had. joe biden is very prepared. i think president bush senior

was prepared. he had been a vice president. joe biden would be prepared as well. you asked me about hillary clinton. >> i was trying to get you, would you prefer hillary clinton over the vice president? >> when they announce they're running, i'll tell you. i always have a saying when you're serious about running, i'll be serious about it. but i think it would be magnificent for america to have a woman president. and by the way, incidental. more important very qualified. >> running or not, clinton returns to news stands this week smiling big she appears on the cover of the latest new york magazine. it's her first major interview since leaving the state department. joe, great get. one all of us are trying to get sort of ad nauseam over the week. so tell me, what is your take

away on the big question about her in town. >> well, she's come out for the first time here and said, you know, i'm thinking about it. so she's weighing it. i think she's coming out during an interesting week when all of the clinton world is gathering in new york for the clinton global initiative annual event. she is sending out a message out there, two messages, one, she's thinking about it. the other is give me some time to think about it or at least let's put it up the road a bit. i think she's concerned or her staff is concerned. let's not get too far ahead of ourselves and have the, you know, front runner that is so strong and like what happened in '08. >> i want to read one of the quotes in the article from her. you say you're wrestling with this idea. do you wrestle with the idea of

running? i do. and she goes on to say, i'll do whatever i can from whatever position i find myself in to advocate for the values and policies i think are right for the country. i will justin to weigh what the factors are that would influence me making decision one way or the other. she has a discussion with you about the many things she was involved in. the obama administration among them. the death of bin laden. and you talked about how, you know, sort of a perfect quote that cuts both ways for her. >> yes, that's right. she emphasised her bond with obama and how she sh been so close to the vicinity, you know, of the commander in chief, up close, front row seat she said to everything that happened and she was very instrumental in, you know, telling him to try to take that risk. and they kind of sweated that out together. this was a moment in which she shared the commander in chief and the pressures of that with

him. and, you know, more or less telling, you know, it was a situation in which she's in a position much like being in the kmabd commander in chief role and showing she has that experience. >> right. and i'm qualified. let me ask you about what i thought was a really interesting part of this article. that is when you talk about how some of the people around hillary clinton said oh, here's a couple people that you should talk to and you go to those people who don't want their names attached to say oh, yeah, she's running. it says to me when you say you ought to talk to this person, that's really what they want to be saying. >> that's right. the most fascinating part of the experience for me was talking to many of her former staffers from the state department and some of her closer friends. and they're much more open about here's why she's qualified. here's what happened at the state department that gives her the experience. here's how she learned from the mistakes of 2008. so they're out there with these bullet points that are very

interesting. that she's not going to be as insular as she was in '08. she is going to be more, you know, she showed more personality and was out being more human as a secretary of state. and also very importantly, she is more independent from her husband, the president, whose role in the '08 campaign was seen as part of her. many of the former staffers underlined and he was not influential in the state department. she was not a factor. and, you know, the take away being, and they said this explicitly, she's more comfortable in her own skin. she's more independent. sh she's her own entity. this is a rough draft of what she made, you know, present if she runs for president. >> right. joe hagan, the article is new york magazine. the september 30th interview. take a read.

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i'm here with donna brazile. they're having a talk to the writer of the article and he interviewed hillary clinton. i want to read from you a quote from an anonymous source that he was directed to talk to. she's running but she doesn't know it yet. she is just like a force of history. i think she believes -- she

thinks she has some say so. you're quoted in the article as a part of the inner circle. you worked for the clintons. so give us your take. again, it's my experience that when they lead you to sources that say stuff like this, she's running. >> i'm neutral in the 2016 race. it's too early to predict it. the train has left the station. the train was already on the tracks. they slowed down. i believe if she runs she has a very strong chance of winning a nomination of course when the presidency. hillary clinton is one of the most phenomenal women in the world today. she's a great leader. she is decisive. she has the kind of energy you want, the kind of ndz that we need in this country if she raunz i really believe she will win. >> i think if you look at this and others, it reflects a couple others. he's been this far on the

journey. >> it's not just jobs. i think people really believe in this mission. it's not complete yet. secondly, i think she knows that you can't wait 2 1/2 years, sit and do nothing and then turn it on. that this is a constant 24/7 campaign that goes on. so i think she knows and she's allowing people to go out and prepare the groundwork. and, you know, a lot of people say they had a lot of conversations with her. i'll admit to you, i have not talked to her about this. this is just a guess on my part which is i don't think she's made up her mind. i think she very much wants to be president. i think she thinks what she brings to the office to be unique and good for the country. she spent a couple years wrestling with whether it's putting herself and the family through the process of running for president. >> you have to build an organization.

so what i find interesting is this organization is already readily there and waiting. it's the clinton industrial complex, right? so that's very interesting. what is also interesting is whether or not that group of people, whether or not they can avoid some of the very, very strong disagreements they had internally and whether or not that's the efficiency of the organization. the second thing i found that is very interesting is this idea of independent bill clinton. no way. we should ask joe whether that is even possible. the idea that he is this passive voice in this operation. >> there's an important point in there which is, i think, again based on my knowledge of both of them, i think that the idea that somehow that hillary needed to depend on her husband for her thoughts is ridiculous. now what i -- >> i would agree with that. i think what hillary did when she got into elective office herself, she did look to her husband as someone who had mastered the art and really did

depend. i think the point that the article makes is that it's different now. she's done it herself. you no he what? she's done something her husband did. she ran a campaign and lost. that's where you learn to win. >> exactly. >> that's an interesting dichotomy. usually it's the republicans who end up with a nominee the second time around. and the democrats always want to find the brand new figure they hadn't thought of before. this time around, you know, the inner influence sources of our party, we have no clue as to where our nominee will be nor have we figured out who we want to support. and yet, the democrats for the first time in modern history have already made up their minds who they want to support. it's a true dichotomy. i think frankly there is something to think about. you know, it is such an overwhelming favorite in 2008. all the cards were in her favor and it didn't happen for her. she has to figure out why it didn't happen for her and i can overcome that. that is a serious question she

has to deal with. we prepared our campaign in 2008 to run against her and it didn't happen. her rejection was a shock to me. so we'll see what happens. >> quickly, let me just ask you about benghazi. that is clearly will republicans will go almost immediately. we still haven't heard of end of that story in so far as many committees who are looking into things. a lot of people with big kb questions on her mind. is her big appearance a drag? >> they're going to attack something. it doesn't matter if it is hillary clinton or joe biden. they'll find something to attack. that's the nature of politics. if you look at the republicans over the last year and a half two years, they have thrown everything they could. they held nothing back in benghazi. hillary clinton remains the most admired woman in the world. so is it going to be an issue she has to deal with? yes. is it going to be a drag on the candidacy? i don't think so. >> she is also a very popular woman. the minute you become a politician, your popularity goes

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we're back with our political panel. foreign policy is certainly not what the president wanted to focus on but it just comes up as we all know. and we saw what happened in syria where now it's possible

syria is going to rid itself of chemical weapons with help from russia and the united states and the rest of the world. we're now seeing these kind of amazing statements coming out of the president of iran, sort of a -- someone said this morning on our air that the last time there was a meeting between a president of the united states and a leader in iran was like 30 years ago. so is the president, has his strategy all along just been so brilliant as nancy pelosi told me or is this just -- he just fell into a really good streak of luck? >> i think he laid a strong foundation for these diplomatic channels to work, to be open. the stakes are very high with iran, there's no question. iran has been a player not just in syria but in funding a lot of the terrorist groups, hezbollah and others. clearly, if these talks bring out any good meaning, it's wonderful. but we have to verify. i think it's good to see the president exchanging letters, becoming pen pals with the new leader of iran. >> is there a risk of being

duped? >> let's not confuse anything that happened over the last few weeks and months with a strategy. because they've lacked a strategy to embrace any of the changes that tack place with the arab spring in an effort to sort of secure american national security and foreign policy interests in that region. so i think that's really what has been missing right now is some sort of clarity and confidence that we have a strategy. >> in fact, there are a lot of democrats that go we're not really sure how this all came about. >> the difference between being president whether republican or democrat and being a member of congress is that you have a strategy and that it doesn't boil down to sound bites that you can go out and campaign on and go out and build messages on. this is highly complicated and most times confidential stuff. if you look at what's going on with iran and the president has been criticized that he wasn't hard enough on iran and we ought to threaten nuclear war against

him there are plenty of people in the republican caucus who advocated that. what you're seeing now is potential fruits of a strategy put in place and was put in place by presidents before him. and so there's a big difference between what happens on capitol hill in front of the cameras and what actually happens. >> i want to read a couple things that just caught my attention. first of all, you can turn the corner where there's a new leader and there's a new leader in iran now. that provides some sort of opening. this is what he tweeted out on ras -- i wish all jews a bless ed hashanah. then we have this from israeli's

prime minister office. >> no one should be fooled by the deception of the iranian president. the iranians are trying to spin their story in the media in order to continue spinning their centrifuges. >> sincerity and integrity are not in the value system of these iranian leaders. words said publicly are meaningless. what's meaningful is geopolitical status. they came into power with help of the soviet union and now putin and russia are strong supporters of syria. he found an opening. the only two options were to intervene for regime change or stay out of the way. he chose the weaker option. congress was reacting the weaker option. putin came in and made a decision to agree with the president on a solution. the solution itself is

humanitarian but the outcome is that assad will stay in power. the real winner here is putin. the real winner in the middle east is putin. >> it's premature to say that. >> we know that things can go belly up quickly in foreign policy. the risk to the president in the deal with russia and syria and in this opening is does he end up maybe being looked like he got duped? >> no. i wanted to say something stronger though. he's holding firm on the military option. at the same time he's pursuing diplomatic routes. there's nothing wrong with the president going out and trying to give peace a chance. if it doesn't work, he has a military option on the table. that's what his critics refuse to understand. >> congress rejected his proposed military option. >> they didn't vote. we'll continue this. you're going to watch commercial breaks. still ahead, surprising take on the new hope from one of the nation's most prominent catholics.

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before we go, pope francis is calling for a new balance between the church's spiritual and political missions. he says the catholic church should not interfere spiritually in the lives of gays and calls for a bigger role for catholic women. we ask speaker pelosi for her reaction. >> starting to sound like a nun. the pope is starting to sound

like the nuns. his holiness is obviously a very revered figure. and i being catholic believe that he was chosen pope by the intercession of the holy spirit so i pay attention to what he says. i can tell you that there is great joy among catholics and friends of catholic as to respect that his holiness pays to all of god's creation and members of the church and then beyond that. it's really quite remarkable. it's a source of joy to us all. >> it is remarkable. not sure it's a source of joy to all catholics because i've seen conservative catholics express some reservations about it. >> i don't know about them. certainly when it was another pope who had something else to say, they wanted to hold us all to it. >> thanks for watching "state of the union." i'm candy crowley in washington.

if you missed any part of today's show, find us on itunes. search "state of the union." you can find more of my conversation with nancy pelosi and stay tuned to cnn for more information on the mall attack. fareed zakaria is next with former president bill clinton. this is "gps." welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. we have a very special show for you today. an important exclusive interview with bill clinton on the plan to rid syria of its chemical weapons. >> who cares how it came up. >> on president obama asking congress to approve a syrian strike. >> i don't think he had to go. >> on america's duelling political parties. >> you got to give it