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>> actually, i felt like the rockstar on that occasion. >> and the new president of iran making his debut. also, armed and dangerous, a 7th grader suspended from middle school for shooting a pellet gun. >> we were in our yard and this had nothing to do with school. i didn't have any of this at the school at any time. >> a strong view, of course, of that, given my position on guns, plus the five brown piano prodigies, brothers and sisters, hear their family secret on the briveng of reaching superstardom. >> let's call it cruz control, senator ted cruz, it's hard to believe it if you don't quite hear it, yourself. >> i will credit my fought. he invented, this wasn't for the restaurant. he did it anyway, green eggs and ham. sometime ago i tweeted a speech
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that ashton kutcher gave. now, number one, as a consumer, i'm a big fan of eating white castle burgers. i do not like them, sam i am, i do not like green eggs and ham. >> now the latest. one question really amongst other things he may have been eating, can we include magic mushrooms? >> i don't think so. i think actually pretty safe in saying that did not happen. but in all fairness, he is trying to buy time by doing things like reading his two young daughters bed time stories via cspan, which is why he read green eggs and ham. he is spending time on the substance of obamacare and why it's bad. he is tweeting supporters from his home state of texas and around the country. lock the bottom loin is, pierce, this is by many people's account here, he knows this is a long speech. it's not technically a speech
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that will delay anything. so that's why a lot of people in his own party think that this is just hurting the party, splitting the party. diluteing their message. that's something i actually asked him about just yesterday. senator what is your end game? you flew from the start, why put congress through this? >> with respect, i disagree with your premise. i believe we can. with we stand together, we will defund obamacare. this was always a multi-step process. >> pifrs, they show this has determination. he is the only guy that will stand up to the big bad senate institution in washington as usual. those who can count and know he doesn't have the votes, they think that means he is delusional. >> maybe even senior members of your own party led by john mccain and others, lamb baste you as wasteing other people's time, doesn't it park you in the
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dilutened and ridiculous category? >> not if you are somebody like ted cruz who won his election in an 81 set in a quote unskwoet establishment republican in texas. he has made it his mission to rock the boat an not let go of this obamacare issue. and he really is fueling this in terms of perhaps his own future ambition, maybe the white house and others and so, it definitely is hurting him relationshipship-wise, you know, he never had the greatest relationships anyway, it's not why he is here. you are absolutely right, pier, we had fellow republicans call him a fraud and worse, today, he's not somebody known for his humor. he had a little jab at them. it was a little bit of a joke. watch this. >> this fight is not about personalities. look. most persons could not give a flying flip about a bunch of
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politicians in washington. who cares? you know, almost all of us are in cheap suits with bad haircuts. >> he could be talking about himself. let's cut to the quick here. >> not me. >> let's cut to the quick about obamacare. many people find complicated. don't understand the issues. viewers at home really trying to get to grips of what this latest debate is about. crystallize it in simple terms for me. >> light the big thing right now is looking ahead to one week from today october 1st, next tuesday, which is when the exchanges opened in most states around the country. what that means is this is going to be the place where most people can go to purchase insurance if they don't have it. maybe they'll do it through their employer. >> that is the most open enrollment as people in the u.s. know it as their employers. the next big date is january 1st, which is two things. one is that is the date where
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most people in this country will be required to have some kind of health insurance or pay a penalty for not having it. >> that really is if people were watching bill clinton and president obama try to expla inthe benefits of this. that was one of the key things they were hitting on today, piers. this is, the president said this is the only industrialized country that doesn't have the health care that it should. lastly, i think this will be most interesting to people. lest you remember, on january 1st, insurance companies will be prohibited from dropping people or taking people because they have preexisting conditions. those are some of the things and the news you can use but again the flipside, these are losing propositions, that they are making small businesses bleed money. people are being dropped, doctors are retiring early and on and on and on. so there is very much a dooms
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day feeling from ted truz cruz. he says, voicing the concerns of his constituents in texas. democrats understand there is a lot of concern. you said this confusion is not clear. they're trying very hard at the white house. will you see the president this week to have an education campaign. they're not there yet. >> thank you very much, indeed. we are engij dpld a showdown of our own. focused on the right. capitol hill on the left. ben ferguson, let me try to get my head around this. the president has tried to bring in millions more americans who wouldn't have qualified for health insurance into the health insurance gain. what's wrong with that? >> there is nothing wrong with that. the problem is obamacare tried to fix a system people didn't need to fix. it's too big. it's too costly t. congressional budget office says it can be upwards of 80% more than we were told when it was passed. the other issue is, look at nancy pelosi, one of the best things she said in her entire
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career, we won't know what's in it until we pass it. after it was passed, she wasn't lying. we found out a lot of things. we found hospital, vanderbilt hospital are laying off a thousand people directly bus of obamacare. that's a hospital. if a hospital is having to do that, there is a pretty god sign this bill is not exactly that great for everyone. that's the point that he's making tonight i think on the floor of the senate. >> this has been a total disaster, according to ben ferguson. >> first of all, it's way to early to decide. we are entering the implement phase. we have to look at that. you can put on an outlier like vanderbilt and say some people were laid off. >> a thousand is not some. >> million will be covered with pre-existing conditions and million will be covered beyond age 25. millions will have a much better standard than any other
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industrialized nation in the world. >> that itself not to say, i can see the point that there can be weeks to done to obamacare. the problem is people like ted cruz who have doing nothing like political theatre are doing nothing to advantage the weeks to. >> ben ferguson is almost worse than that. you could argue that what cruz is doing is actively damaging his own party. what he is creating is that old splinter now between the old tea party and the bid of politics of the republican party. >> that doesn't help anyone. it won't help you win the election. >> well, let's look at the people that are saying that. one, john mccain. two, lindsey graham. three, you have other leaders like that and the point that i think ted cruz and many other conservatives like myself are saying is those guys have been failures over the last five years. john mccain hasn't had a single victory. yet he's acting like he is somehow leading on these issues. the point is for most conservatives is, we're not
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going to wait for you to die for us to fight against for conservative values. that's what ted cruz was elected on. hold on, let me finish this. john mccain and left hand say graham have literally zero victories in five years, including when he ran for president and got his brains boat in. if that's the guy that's criticizing, i like my options. >> bill clinton former president interviewed bruk barak about obamacare. listen to what president obama had to say. >> it's been a political i little political this old obamacare thing and so what you've had is an unprecedented effort that you've seen ramp up over the last month or so in which those who have opposed the idea of universal health care in the first place and fought this tooth and nail through congress have been trying to scare and
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discourage people from getting a good deal. >> the thing about hill, that's what many people feel, isn't it? this is basically another attempt to get rid of president obama. when, actually, a lot of people will benefit from obamacare undisputably. >> that's correct. this will do nothing to help, even the people that agree with ben ferguson, there is no potential political victory in what ted cruz is doing. >> then why are you so nervous? why are you fighting so hard if it's not a big deal. >> ben, hold on. >> i didn't say. ben, let me finish saying before you disagree with it. i'm in the saying it's a big deal. i think it's a huge deal a member of congress is wasteing 30 hours reading green eggs and ham when there are big problems in the united states. he doesn't have the votes. i don't think you would be willing to go on national television. would you say ted cruz has the votes? do you think it's at all
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possible he has the votes to win? >> i think it's a hypocrisy. i'm answering it right now. listen to the words out of my mouth. neither of you criticized democrats within they wasted times for weeks on end trying to get a gun bill passed that everyone knew was not going to get past. you said it was noble, it was right, it was just. i knew, instead of here five different nights, they don't have the votes to get it passed. you all criticized. i'm glad you can see. it's not a waste of time. >> we are talking about obamacare. it brings many into the health care that couldn't afford it. the fact that congress spectacularly failed to listen to its own people when 90% of americans wanted background checks. they still couldn't pass that. that is not a xartive thing to bring dmoo this debate.
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you demean your argument when you do that. >> i'm not demeaning it, piers. the majority of americans are fought happy with the obamacare the way it was enacted. the millions of americans believe it should be tweak and changed if you agree with the polls. look at the public opinion. >> if you look piece by piece at obamacare. whether pre-existing conditions, age limitations, ted cruz is fighting for tweaking, he's fighting to destabilize the entire country. >> because there is a very important point t. reason he's fighting to defund it is the democrats, including president barack obama out there today defending a bill, let's not forget that's already been passed. that's how vulnerable it is. that's how many people aren't happy with it. the president still having to defend a bill that literally was passed a couple years ago. a be ill that democrats would not mention in the last election, they were so afraid of being associated with obamacare. that's how vulnerable it is.
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>> they have to bring it in. i'll make phone predictions here, ben ferguson. one is that ted cruz will will never stop talking. secondly, he won't succeed, thirdly, he will be the new sarah palin and the tea party will have emerged glorious again to take on his own party. ben ferguson. thank you both very much. we continue to rumble away. hillary clinton took a shot at republicans. >> that shot down or probably non-shot down. listen to this. >> if they want to shut the government down that's on their head and their responsibility and if they go even further, which is deeply distressing, and for the first time lead our country into default on our obligations, that is not just partisan politics. >> that is going at the heart of our credibility around the world. not just our economic
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leadership, but our political and strategic leadership. so i hope that our friends on the other side of the yachlt and it's a minority. but it's a noisy minority, understands this is not trite do and this is bad politics for them to do. >> hillary clinton will sit down with the man during the shutdown of 1995 and 1996 bill clinton, we will have that conversation with him tomorrow and more from hillary clinton and sanjay gupta this weekend. coming up next, the new president of iran says there is no threat to the world. we'll ask tony blair who should trust either? also 7th graders with pellet guns. do they deserve to be kicked out of school later the five browns, musical superstars and survivors with a very dark family secret. ♪
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american people, i bring peace and friendship from iranians. >> joining me now is tony blair and former british prime minister tony blair, good to see you. >> nice. >> let's talk iran off the top. clearly, there is a move by the iranians to be at least slightly more friendly on this trip. how much should we read into this? how serious down they have? are we headed to a new relationship? >> the honest answers right now we don't know, but it's worth testing. so the sanctions are definitely really harmed iran. inflation is doubled. they've lost probably in some estimates $100 billion as a result of the sanctions. the election is not an open
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election. nonetheless the election of the president is an indication the people are pushing the regime for some change. so on the other hand, we got to do this with our eyes opened and be cognizant of the fact the last few years have been the launch of the iranian programs. i think it's simple to test it. test it with the implicit stick in the background. >> there is obviously a clear link between iran and syria. mr. people believe a lots of iranian resource and money is behind president assad and what he is up to. put that into perspective. president obama has taken a position now of not having any military action at the moment. you've written you think there should be military action. in light of all that's been going on, is the president's position now the correct one going forward? >> yes. because again, i think it's right and given the offer to yield up the chemical weapons that syria has, if they're
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prepared to do that. and it's done on a verifiable basis. >> that is plainly better than to do a punitive attack and leave them with chemical weapons. >> so would you trust president assad? would you trust vladmir putin? >> we should be extremely cautious on the process of verification. i think whether it's with iran or syria, it's the results that count. i'm not particularly interested in whether we did it eloquently, ineloquently. there is a lot of talk about the style of how, that so me is not relevant at all. what is relevant is the substance, if syria gives up its chemical weapons, that at plus. if iran gave up the nuclear weapons, that would be huge for the region. however, we have to be mindful of the fact, this is a regime, millions displaced with total brutality. they are still engaged in what people regard as a fiction in saying it wasn't them, it was
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the rebels and the iranian regime have been clear for a long period of time and for example, you have shortly the international atomic agency will have a meeting in vienna. recently, the atomic agency said iran were not fully cooperateing. this will be an opportunity to demonstrate some cooperation. >> in terms of the action that didn't happen against sifria, many people think what happened in britain with the british parliament deciding to vote against it, actually persuaded president obama couldn't go and that's why he did what he did, going to congress, perhaps knowing he was going to lose. had you been british prime minister, would you have pushed very hard to do military action at that time? >> certainly, he pushed hard with america as an allie at this moment. i think it's important the u.k. and the u.s. stick together. that's always been what i've thought. now, again, i think particularly
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after being through long painful campaigns, afghanistan, iraq, it's natural that the politicians want the support of their parliamentary bodies. the bottom line is you can't have the use of chemical weapons happening without some reaction. now, if we can, if we manage to get the syrians to give this up in a verifiable process, fine. if that doesn't happen and that's why the security council resolution is important. >> that doesn't happen, we've got to be prepared to enforce the will of the international community. >> there is a lot resting on trust, isn't there. >> and these aren't the most trustworthy people to deal with. vladmir putin with his own interests. president assad and a current civil war raging. and this may take years to actually honor all his chemical weapons and have them delivered and so on. it seems to many people america and britain and other countries have taken their decisions on
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this have shown weakness within they should have shown more strength. now, you have to talk to you about this. you have been on the receiving end of a lot of betrayal after iraq. i turned out saddam didn't have the weapons. here assad clearly does. yet no action at the moment has been taken although we trust you to hand them over. >> look, i think in relation to syria, here's what i think people find difficult, both sides of the atlantic. you look at the assad regime, the numbers of people they've killed. the way they're brutalizing their population. >> that is obviously something to be condemned. then people look at the opposition portions. they see the increasing influence of jihadist groups and al qaeda associated people and then they say, where are the good guys? now, personally, i think there are good guys in the middle east right now. they are the modern mined and moderate people. i believe whether in egypt or syria and/or in yemen, right
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over the region, you can see a solid majority in favor of the types we would want to see. right now i think people understand, particularly in iraq and afghanistan, you get involved in these situations. then you are involved with these extremist groups. whether those sponsored by iran on the one side or al qaeda on the other and then people worry. they will worry, what are we getting into? can we get out of it? what are the costs? personally, i've taken this view all the way through. there is one battle going on. it is an ideological struggle between radical islam and the modern people. i think it's relevant to the middle east but not centered solely in the middle east. i think we have to take side of it. >> we seen exactly where it laid with the attack in kenya. it's like an al qaeda affiliate, al shabaab may well somebody
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home grown terrorists, perhaps in britain, we don't know. if you saw what the boston bombing as well, this kind of radicalization of younger home grown terrorists may be the future. how do you dole with that? if are you a world leader right now, how do you deal with that? you had a bit of this when you were the british prime minister. >> right. it's the problem, of course. that's the difficulty we got into in afghanistan and iraq. the problem with these people, they're prepared to fight without hesitation, kill without mercy and die without regret. what that means is any situation where they're involved, they will be tough to boat. now in my view, you do have to boat them. it's not just nairobi. look at pakistan where those christians were slaughted in that terrorist outrage. in central asia, in the far east, across the whole of subsaharan africa, this is a global phenomenon. the way of dealing with it is partly through security measures. i did a religious interfaith and
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respect between people of different faiths. you got to educate. we should be making a major part of our foreign policy to say to countries, we will educate our young people to a tolerant and respectful view of others. but you got to do the same. what is happening is these young people are being radicalized in formal education systems and informal education systems. it's not abateing this. it's actually growing. and it's got the potential to destabilize large parts of the world, because they're prepared to commit these atrocities. >> always good to see you. thank you very much. >> thanks, piers. next, two 7th grade boys, using an air gun, have the school gone too far? coming up next. others are designed to leave them behind. .
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. >> two boys in virginia are suspended from school for an entire year, they were seen shooting an air gun while waiting for the bus. they say they were far from the bus and on private property. the school board said this was a threat to student safety. they are joining me. welcome. let's start with the two boys. colin, what were you doing? describe what this gun is. >> it's an air soft gun. it's meant for shooting at the target. that's what we were doing. shooting at the target. >> is it a toy? >> yes, sir. >> aiden, it definitely is a toy? i've never used one of these things.
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people that have tell me they fire pellets. it is classified really as a toy? >> yes. >> do you think anything you were doing was wrong, aiden? >> well, yes, but i don't think it has to do anything with school. >> okay. what do you think you were doing that was wrong? >> well, we were shooting air soft guns when we were not supposed to do because our parents did not want us to. >> okay. let's bring in your parents. your son obviously got a hefty punishment from the school here. tell me first of all did you know he had this toy gun and what is your view of it? >> well, i purchased the gun, but i purchased the toy and i just purchased it. he wasn't supposed to be playing with it at the time. i put it away and i. he was in trouble with me, in serious trouble with the school. >> do you have any problem with
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him using that particular toy gun? >> oh, no, no, it's a toy. it's actually a fun game. >> okay. let's bring in tim clark, your son aiden has been heavily punished here. what is your view about what the school has done? >> i'm just amazed that they fl they're more suitable to discipline my child than i am. i feel they feel they're a better parent than i am. >> i don't think it's really that. they said in a statement, matthew delaney, a principal at larkspur school. they say other children verified that they had been hit by pellets and had the marks to support their claims. this child was shot in the arm and head. now, if any of these kids as far as you are aware, did any any of
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them complain to the school about what happened? >> no. they did not. they made a plan to show us the house with the intention of chasing each other around with it. every inc. isle one of the boys was hit at one time or another. they thought it was a game and it was all right because they weren't on school property or on school time. >> now, the school said if the statement were released by the chairman of the school board of virginia beach. he says this wasn't colin's first infraction. he says because you signed a waiver and chose to make this a public conversation, this is not his first disciplinary action. he has been disciplined for increasingly aggressive behave i don't have, ha rarment, bullying and fighting. were you aware after all those
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incidents? and what is your reaction to the school making that public? >> oh, i never signed a paifr waiver for them to go public. i'm apalmed they enforced bullying. here they are attacking my son. i couldn't believe when i got the same letter. i got actually a tweet. they went, i never signed anything they can release to the public. i am aware my son had some instances, that doesn't mean he deserves the harsh punishment. he deserves to go to school. he doesn't deserve to go to another school besides his own school. >> colin, apparently six times in 18 months, harassment, bullying, fighting. have you been a naughty boy? >> i don't know how you feel
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about being a naughty boy. i do know i have been in trouble in recent times. >> and why is that, you say? >> because i have a little bit of a temper. >> are you working to try to deal with that? >> yes, sir. >> okay. aiden, are you working to deal with your -- what your problem is, you don't seem to have the same disciplinary record. have you been naughty as well or not? >> yes. >> you both accept have you gone too far. right? . >> yes. >> you are both going to be better boys and hope to get being to school as soon as possible? >> yes. >> well, good, look. here's my view about it. i have had a strong view about guns in america and gun control as most people who watch this show know. but in this case, i can't help but thinking the school has gone a bit too far. this is a toy gun. when i was a kid, i used to play with toy guns, cap guns, whatever. they can't kill people.
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i think colin you need to get your own behavioral pattern in order. i think you should go back to the school and try and hash some common sense into this debate. kids in the end in america should be allowed to be kids. >> yeah, they should. >> the government control campaign i have run does not extend itself to harmless pellet toy jun u guns. thank you for joining me. good luck to getting back to school. >> okay. a picture perfect performance. the five browns speak out about why they'd expose their own father as their abuser. [ male announcer ] a doctor running late for a medical convention
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try and remember. i will do my very best. who is the business of the five of you? >> nobody is the boss. we are very democratic. i don't think we'd allow anyone to be the boss. >> is that right? >> actually, when we have musical disagreements, we will take a vote. usually the majority wins. >> you are all brilliantly talented. when i judged "america's got talent," we seen a lot of the acts from you that you. we used to smile about you guys. they used to put me off. in terms of who is the most talented, i always loved this question, i can see you already looking at me grimes grimacing. if you went head-to-head, who would win? >> people come up to us after concerts him people say i like you the best. we had the same training basically our whole lives. it's hard to tell.
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we play differently. >> deondrarks you are shaking your head. you don't agree at all. are the boys better than the gifrls? >> are the girls better than the boys? i don't know, i don't think so. some nights i feel maybe they're better than me. that's the noise thing about it, they inspire me to try to be better. >> all my brothers enspire me to do is beat them. i don't care if it's monopoly or whatever. >> board games. >> sports, too. >> who is the most competitive. >> in board games. no sports and stuff, but outside of that. >> you are hugely popular. you are incredibly successful. everything was going great. then you got hit by this awful tragedy which must have blighted your lives for quite a while. desiree, walk me through your father. i turned out he had been abecauseing all three of the girls, hills daughter, about the worst thing you could possibly imagine, the moment that you all realized what had been going on,
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how did you deal with it as siblings? >> you no ethe moment i realized my sisters had been abecaused it wasn't just me, it was probably the worst moment of my lie. i remember feeling sick to my stomach. i just, so, but, at the same time, there was like a comraderie, almost like he unstood each other. a kinship that we could get through this together. >> melanie, incredibly painful to be abused full stop. to having it done by your father, somebody managing you as a group. the worst imaginable thing. how do you cope with the fact. he is now in prison. >> that horrible chapter in your lives is closed. how do you feel about it? >> you know, too imis so important and you know i've had a couple of years now to sort of dole with it all and process it. we have been through counselling as a family and i just feel like finally i am able to heal with that time and, you know, my
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sisters have chose on the start a foundation. that's empowering for them. for me, i've chosen to kind of live my own life and heal in my own time and be with with my husband out in nature. those are the things that heal me. >> deandre', what are your feelings towards your father? >> i mean, obviously, they're your parents, so you are still going to love them to a certain extent. but it's difficult over the years because based off the decisions that he made, it directly influences the rest of your life and there are forever queens to the decisions that he made. so i choose to try to focus on my life, my husband, my daughter and the happy things, playing music together as brothers and sisters touring the world. those are the themes. >> do any of you have any contact with him at all? >> no. >> none of you. what about your mother? what about one of the poisons, ryan, how do you feel about your mother? how does she feel about what
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happened to your father? >> i talk to my mom to check in on her. >> is it the same for you? >> it's sort of disappointing she hasn't really felt. she hasn't been terribly supportive of us. that's disappointing to us. >> heart breaking, right? >> you guys were totally oblivious to what was going on. in some ways, it's been equally harrowing for you. this was your father abusing your sisters. he was your manager of the group. your mother, you clearly now have a poor relationship with her, too. it could have wrecked many families. amazingly you guys have each other. you managed to come through this. do you feel you can reconcile with your mother or father properly? >> it's ha ready to say. i mean, i think when it comes to like forfiveness and relationships, it's a personal thing for each of us. definitely time plays a factor in that. but, you know, like i am in some contact with my mother.
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i'm pretty disappointed in a lot of the decisions he's made recently, but, yeah, i guess time will tell. only time can tell whether, you know, if they are willing to, you know, come to us and really make an effort. who knows? >> did they apologize to you? >> i think you feel when somebody is truly penitent. if you apologize once but youring as speak a totally different language. it's not a genuine apology. ren tans and restitution we would be able to feel. we are opened to that. it just hasn't been shown yet. >> let's take a break and come back and talk about happier things. you all have signed for, it makes it easier to remember who you all are. let's talk about that and music and why you love it so much. how about that? >> great.
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. >> the brown dos what they do best. have you this concert at carnegie hall. it's the ultimate. the five of you. you never played there before. how exciting is this? talking about carnegie hall. >> it's amazing after everything we been through to be able live our dream and perform in carnegie hall. we have a new album coming out. it was a dream floonlt we wanted to do our whole performing lives. it's kind of exciting to see these things we hoped to come true. >> how much as it been a healing thing for you as a group of five siblings? >> music is a healing thing for all of us individually and a group. we are all good friends, we get along. we have a great time on the road. it's a blast. >> in the middle of carnegie hall, somebody does a really bum note. really terrible. >> exactly.
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>> it will happen. it's like a terrible inquest afterwards? . >> we do these crusties from deandre', what are you doing? one night i got a smile from her. i must have done something good and she gave me a smile. >> a rare thing. is there the power of faith. you are all very good fearing and religious as i'd expect from you that you. you are mormons. how important is that? rick warren was incredibly moved by the power of his prayer and his faith and what happened in his life. has that been equally helpful to you guys? >> it has been hugely helpful. our faith is god for us. our faith and spirit schul spirituality-to-besides the trials we have been through to find peace and hope, which is so important to be able to feel that has been very uplifting to
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us. >> tell me quickly about the foundation. you two set this up, right? >> the foundation of survivors by abuse was says up by desiree and i. it's important that people have the time line to heal when they're ready. with the laws and statute of limitations how they are sometimes that is not the case. so for us, we're trying to raise apairness about the issue of sexual abuse. hopefully, our plan is to make it to washington and lobby on behalf of victims everywhere who come up against the statute of limitations. >> good for you. the five browns will be downloading their new album d. rite of spring, starting october 1st. the cd is available. for more information on the foundation, check out surviving abuse. best of luck at carnegie hall. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back with bono and possibly the greatest ever live performance.
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night with the former president of the united states. the bitter fighting in washington and swirling rumors about the campaign and his wife hillary clinton. his daughter chelsea will be joining us on thursday night. that's all, acc 360 later starts right now. >> good evening, everyone. for years, eastern's appearance in the united nations's general assembly has been many things, contentious, combative. explosive. they delivered venomous speeches at reliably empty rooms. today was historic. immediately after president rahouni. he spoke directly to the american people in english. listen. >> i would like t
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